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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. I was sing a little about

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen too.

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Speaker 3: I made the point I think it was yesterday of

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Speaker 3: like maybe justin Herbert being.

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Speaker 1: A wild card of mom and I'm like, no, dumb.

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Speaker 2: Ask bart And. Poland's in the hospital recovering and listening,

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Speaker 2: so get better. So not bad enough to keep him

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Speaker 2: from email? Yeah, so we can type. So it wasn't

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Speaker 2: his fingers.

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Speaker 1: Only to make a wife of someone's hospital vis him

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Speaker 4: What you're about to say is wrong, but.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, go ahead. I was about to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I knew.

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Speaker 4: You were going to say that.

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Speaker 2: Did you even read bart from Poland's email after you

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Speaker 2: made fun of his health? That was his email? That

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Speaker 2: was That was it. He just wanted to tell us

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Speaker 2: he was in the hospital listening. He said he was

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Speaker 2: gonna be fine. Bye, you know, toss in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: All right, you don't like that, you don't there for

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Speaker 2: says a fight diets on you. Fred.

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Speaker 1: I've filtered.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday here at a Les Stadium. It's Evan, Paul, Me, Deuce,

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Speaker 2: Matt and Alex in the back room and we're talking

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Speaker 2: about Patriots. Of course, a disappointing when surrendering a twenty

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Speaker 2: one nothing lead, and uh, the AFC East for the

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Speaker 2: time being. You had that chance for a cap and

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Speaker 2: T shirt, but there's still time for that. It's not

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Speaker 2: the end of the world. No, not the end of

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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing, Fred? You came into that postgame

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Speaker 3: show with your Darth h theater, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, post game in the moment, I was really really disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I was dejected. You know, you had it for the taking.

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Speaker 2: It's right there. It was like I was telling you

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Speaker 2: guys in the postgame show in two thousand and six

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Speaker 2: at halftime, you know, you thought the AFC Championship, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's make our hotel reservations. We've got this game, and

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Speaker 2: it just kind of fell apart in the second half,

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Speaker 2: much like this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And do you think that how much

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Speaker 3: of your disappointment is that they had the lead?

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that everything everyone thought it was going

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Speaker 2: to be a close game. Yeah, I don't think anyone

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Speaker 2: was shocked.

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 1: That's all of my disappointment. If they had just gone

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Speaker 1: back and forth the whole game and they fell short,

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Speaker 1: I'd be disappointed, sure, But I feel much better than

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Speaker 1: the way the game unfolded. Yeah, yeah, that's fair.

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Speaker 6: I actually feel the total opposite. And I'm on an

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Speaker 6: island on those show, and that's okay. Barthas feels exactly

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Speaker 6: how you all feel. So I know I'm probably in

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Speaker 6: the minority here, but I feel like you skated with them.

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Speaker 1: Again, like, oh, that's the bottom line of the game.

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Speaker 6: Like I don't really feel I don't know what the

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Speaker 6: week sixteen to twenty twenty one, the Patriots got kind

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Speaker 6: The Bills didn't punt like that's always the famous one,

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Speaker 4: It really wasn't a competitive game. Uh this.

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Speaker 6: You know, statistically, the Patriots outplayed the Buffalo for most

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Speaker 6: it and said, you went toe to toe with them,

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Speaker 1: The only idea that they ever in question for me though, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, the only thing I'll push back on that is

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Speaker 2: the second half. They didn't go toe to toe with them.

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Speaker 2: They got dominating in the second half.

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Speaker 4: They had the ball, they but they dominated the first half.

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Speaker 2: They did, they did, But there's a tale you win

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they lost the game, no doubt, I mean.

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Speaker 2: But there's win games in the NFL in the second half, sure, yea.

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Speaker 2: And they got dominated in the second half. They had

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Speaker 1: They yeah, they they when the chips were down.

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Speaker 2: So you so you have to look at that and

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean to me, it goes to Drake May's

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Speaker 3: I watched the Dan Rolofsky thing on you know, the

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Speaker 3: they could go to the sideline and say they're doing this,

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Speaker 3: you know, or we've seen this before. And so we're

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Speaker 3: watching Drake May acquire experience and don't guarantee that he's

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Speaker 3: it's a great reminder. And you know, with three weeks

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Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, the ball knowers are telling us that in

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Speaker 2: the second half, the Bills defense made some really good adjustments.

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Speaker 2: They dropped more into coverage and kind of took away Hunter,

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Speaker 2: May you know, it's not like they didn't pass try

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Speaker 6: Well, I would just say, I mean you said they

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Speaker 4: Now we'll talk to Josh McDaniel's on Thursday.

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Speaker 6: And I'm sure he'll get asked that question, and I'm

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Speaker 3: And they start playing more cover two, so they're taking

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Speaker 6: You're playing too high safety, and they're trying to throw

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Speaker 4: Look, look, it's harder to do.

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Speaker 2: So were the Bills doing something where they were showing

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Speaker 1: It was a little bit of both.

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Speaker 6: You know, sometimes they're starting one, sometimes they're starting too

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Speaker 6: That's what they do. They're a good disguised defense. You know,

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Speaker 6: we talked about it all week, and I think that's

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Speaker 6: this game plan that they came out in the second

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Speaker 6: Week five game that gave Drake and the Patriots offense

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Speaker 6: But in game plan, I said, this is what Buffalo

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Speaker 6: they're going to play cover two. They're going to play

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Speaker 6: because this is what they did in the first half

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Speaker 2: So it sounds to me like you're saying that, you know,

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Speaker 2: not not not Drake May, in the players.

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Speaker 6: Look, the players got execute and they're the ones out

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Speaker 4: But at the same.

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Speaker 6: Time, you know, you look at the fact that you

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Speaker 6: the Patriots just didn't have any answers. You know, they

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Speaker 6: You know, the fourth down play that decided the game

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Speaker 6: is ugly, like don't pull that film up, like it's

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Speaker 6: just a it's just a pack of people in the

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Speaker 2: So the Bill's got the ball to start the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that they're a little panic set set

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Speaker 2: in with Josh mcgin's like, uh oh, we got to

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Speaker 2: start putting We got to keep putting points up here.

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Speaker 2: This isn't about clock management. This is about this is

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Speaker 2: gonna become a shootout and we need to score. And

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Speaker 2: he panicked and that's why he didn't run enough.

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Speaker 1: I think those are all fair points. I think they're

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Speaker 1: all fair second guesses. Like Evan you know, said, like

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Speaker 1: you know, how well they ran the ball, I don't

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Speaker 1: this is too rosy of a look. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels looked at the second half and said, we

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Speaker 1: don't want to run the ball this half. I think

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was the game plan coming out

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Speaker 1: twenty four to fourteen. First play, they hand the ball

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Speaker 1: got to throw, it's incomplete, Third and eleven you got

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Speaker 1: On second and eleven, I think, yeah, ninety nine out

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Speaker 1: Why I wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 6: But you still have to look at it as you

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Speaker 1: In other words, I don't think it was anyone fault.

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Speaker 6: I just think that it's it's coupled with the fact

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's what I want to That's exactly, but

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Speaker 6: So usually when you play teams that play a lot

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Speaker 4: They did that on the throw to Hunter.

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Speaker 4: But the throws behind him right, and it's causing.

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Speaker 6: Him to make a more difficult adjustment and catch than

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Speaker 2: So let's go back to Mike Vrabel on Monday. I

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Speaker 2: think it was people asked him about somebody else playing

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Speaker 2: it necessary to insert that our quarterback need to play

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was an interesting answer, and so you.

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Speaker 2: So is this something where you know you're having trouble

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Speaker 3: That's what I was, well, that's what I was going

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Speaker 1: The possess the ball in the second half enough to

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Speaker 6: because there's nobody left to take the quarterback. Now, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Thought they were effective. Yeah, in this game doing I

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Speaker 6: They were kind of I don't know if you want

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Speaker 6: And you know, they were just kind of hanging out

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Speaker 6: They were in the rush, but they weren't fully rushing,

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Speaker 2: They had.

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Speaker 6: The second half was a great plan by Buffalo, like

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Speaker 6: for a long time. Like they they won, they won

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Speaker 2: The no doubt about these two teams meet again. It's

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Speaker 1: That'll be a big part of it.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be the ultimate chess match, so.

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Speaker 1: Real, real quick. And I just I don't think much

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Speaker 1: On this game just wasn't quite as shot. I know

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that they're like I know a lot

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Speaker 6: not throwing the ball particularly well.

440
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,479
Speaker 4: I saw a lot of just uncertainty.

441
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,000
Speaker 6: The tentativeness, not one hundred percent seeing the field very well.

442
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,399
Speaker 6: You know, you see, we saw it back in camp,

443
00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,200
Speaker 6: like when he does those double clutches, and like we

444
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 6: we've seen him enough now that you kind of just

445
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 6: know what it looks like when he's just first.

446
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 7: Half of the Cincinnati Yeah, a couple of those kinds

447
00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,720
Speaker 7: of you know, he had one he took a sack

448
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,640
Speaker 7: and like Kyle Williams is coming open on an incut

449
00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,919
Speaker 7: like behind the linebackers, and like if he's feeling it,

450
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 7: he's just.

451
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 4: Layering that thing in there every single time.

452
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,320
Speaker 6: And he did one of the double clutches and then

453
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,840
Speaker 6: he felt the pressure and he just went down and

454
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,160
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, do you think there it is?

455
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 2: You know, during the week it was drilled into too much,

456
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 2: this is a game, we can't turn the ball over,

457
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,880
Speaker 2: and that that was in his head.

458
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, I hope not, because I think that's

459
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: a bad way to go into a game against the Bills,

460
00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 3: where you just there's gonna be big plays, there's gonna

461
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,159
Speaker 3: be mistakes. You just have to kind of cut it

462
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: loose and not get too tight, you know. I mean,

463
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 3: I know what you're getting at that he went in tight.

464
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,919
Speaker 3: I would say maybe that happened in the locker room,

465
00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,280
Speaker 3: and we talked about that at halftime, where you know,

466
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 3: it was how we were feeling.

467
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, just don't screw it up.

468
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 3: You got a huge lead, you know, but I still

469
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: knew that they had a chance to get into it.

470
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: But maybe he got a little tight. You know, maybe

471
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 3: it's right there for the taking. Just don't screw it up,

472
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 3: you know, when you get to that mode, whereas you know,

473
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 3: maybe it was tied at halftime, you're going in like

474
00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 3: we're in a dogfight, guys, we got to give it

475
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,960
Speaker 3: everything we have, and you know, maybe it's a little different.

476
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think there was a weird

477
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: dynamic in sports, but football in particular, when you have

478
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 1: that really big lead at the half, it's almost like

479
00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: you can't blow this one right, you know, And that

480
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 1: you see it every once in a while. You know,

481
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you it happens all the time. Twenty

482
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 1: one nothing leads go away. But I don't think it's

483
00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 1: that rare for teams that are you know, I'm not

484
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: talking vople talking about like the Eagles blowing out the

485
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: Raiders on Sunday, you know, because there's so much better

486
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,560
Speaker 1: than the Raiders I'm talking about, you know. You know

487
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots and Broncos game that night, Sunday night game

488
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: was freezing cold. It's like twenty four to nothing, twenty

489
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: four to three. I was there. These are pretty even, yeah,

490
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 1: but I think it was twenty four nothing at one point.

491
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, twenty four three and a half times, and it's it's,

492
00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 8: you know, these are two good teams, Like you don't

493
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 8: expect one of them to be twenty four points ahead

494
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 8: of the other, and you know, like Jesus, we're kind

495
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 8: of blowing them out here, you know, and you see

496
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 8: it like.

497
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,439
Speaker 1: There's an EBB and a flow. It's almost like an

498
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,439
Speaker 1: NBA game, like everybody makes a run, you know. So

499
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: I did think Buffalo would eventually offensively make a run.

500
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: I just thought the Patriots would be able to score

501
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 1: enough to keep them at bay, and it just never happened.

502
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 3: Knew exactly what you were saying a half time where

503
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 3: it was like, I mean, it just seemed like the

504
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 3: Bills had no answer for the Patriots, even you know,

505
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,560
Speaker 3: getting the field goal right at the end. It's just, man,

506
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 3: they're moving the ball at will they get what they're doing,

507
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's there. They might only score a

508
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns in the second half, but that should

509
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 3: be enough, especially if you possess the ball for you know,

510
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: five six seven minute drive that bubble.

511
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't even about points as much to me as

512
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: it was about you know, just possessed the ball a

513
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 1: little bit and there won't be enough time to make

514
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: it control of the game.

515
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,640
Speaker 2: My final, my prediction should have come out thirty one.

516
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 2: That should have been the finals prediction.

517
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: I mean through that lens though, ev Like, is that

518
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,959
Speaker 3: just a really kind of ballsy choice by Buffalo to say,

519
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 3: in the second half we're going to cover two now,

520
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 3: you know, and they run the ball on us a

521
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 3: little bit, we're going to take somebody out of that.

522
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 6: Like, to me, that's when I think of a Sean

523
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 6: McDermott defense. I think of overfronts, nickel and cover two

524
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 6: and like that's that's that's the base of their defense

525
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 6: and has been really since he was in Carolina with

526
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 6: the cam Panthers and stuff like that, and Josh Norman

527
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,280
Speaker 6: picking off passes and cover two all day long.

528
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Speaker 1: Which surprised me a little bit was just how infrequently

529
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 1: they went after him, because like that's another like I

530
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: don't know all of the excess no's that Evan talks about,

531
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: but I think is Sean McDermott coming from like Jimmy

532
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: Johnson and just being really aggressive and that that's they

533
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: certainly went after him in the first game they went out.

534
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: Maybe they just looked at it and said, you know,

535
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: we can't do that again because he beat that the

536
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: last time. Because I don't think they were overly aggressive

537
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: from a pass rush standpoint no in the game, and

538
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: I think the past protection by the way, I thought

539
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: that the offensive line was really good in this.

540
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 6: Game, probably one of their best games of the year.

541
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Speaker 6: But just last night this was probably a Catch twenty

542
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 6: two conversation more.

543
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Speaker 9: But there's a lot of like above us, no, no,

544
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 9: I took no, not above you guys, just like very nerdy,

545
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 9: uh the there's a conversation right now amongst the ball

546
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 9: knowers about progression reads versus coverage reads. So progression reads

547
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 9: are just a simple one, two, three, right, Like, just

548
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 9: you're starting at one, you're.

549
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 6: Going If he's not open, you're going to two. If

550
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 6: he's not open, you're going to three. Coverage reads is

551
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 6: is it man?

552
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 4: Is its zone?

553
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 6: Is it one high? Is it too high? And that's

554
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 6: where we're going to start the progression It.

555
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: Determines, right.

556
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 6: So when you see something pre snapt it, yeah, I

557
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 6: knew you guys would understand.

558
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 4: I just thought it was a little bit jargoning.

559
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: When you see.

560
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 6: Pre snap one thing and then the defense goes and

561
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 6: changes the picture into something different post snap.

562
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: It's not just the quarterback, it's also.

563
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 6: The receivers, it's it's all everybody in the passing game

564
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 6: has to see it the same way. And even at

565
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 6: the end, I would say with Brady, this McDermott defense

566
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 6: gave Brady some trouble too, because not because it was

567
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 6: taking down Brady, it was taking down.

568
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: The system right where they have all.

569
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Speaker 6: Of these different types of coverage reads and option routes

570
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 6: and all this different stuff going on. And when you're

571
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Speaker 6: on different pages. It's just hard to execute that.

572
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 2: That makes complete sense, which to me lends more to

573
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: the idea of making a backyard school, you know, game

574
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: and running the ball. Drake just just make it backyard football.

575
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 6: Well, to Paul's point about week five, you know, Drake

576
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 6: just said ef it right and just started playing out

577
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 6: of structure. And I think that that is there's some

578
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 6: truth to that. Now you don't want to live out

579
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 6: of structure.

580
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: It's not, but it.

581
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: Keeps them honest and now you can get back to

582
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: your system right.

583
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 6: And in the first half, I think they just kind

584
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 6: of sat in single high safety. They kind of knew

585
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 6: what was coming, they were seeing it well, and then

586
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 6: all of a sudden the second half, everybody looked confused.

587
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 4: Even Digs a couple of times.

588
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, because there's been a couple

589
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: of comments that I've seen from the AT and t's

590
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: that have indicated that he didn't look sharp running his routes.

591
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, him and Hunter Henry were just kind of running

592
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 6: into coverage the entire second half in an uncharacteristic way.

593
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 6: So I just think a lot of this has to

594
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,160
Speaker 6: do with, you know, the system and it again specifically

595
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 6: this type of defense that Buffalo runs. But again, like

596
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 6: from what I said at the beginning, I think it's

597
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 6: a good thing that this is what we're talking about.

598
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 6: This is not about the fact that Buffalo just was

599
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 6: the much more talented or the much better team. We're

600
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 6: actually talking about like the minutia of the chess match

601
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 6: at the game, and this is why the Patriots lost.

602
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 6: And I'd say the same thing with the kickoff coverage,

603
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 6: which we can get to at some point too, Like.

604
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 1: That's a that's a definitee catch twenty ten.

605
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 6: This is all like x's and o's that we're disgusting,

606
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 6: which like in the past five years it's been Buffalo's

607
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 6: just much better than us. Yeah right, and there's really

608
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 6: no chance. Yeah, this was they got out foxed a.

609
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 4: Little bit in the second half of this game, not

610
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 4: just a little bit.

611
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: So that's why I say that third meeting, if it happens,

612
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: will be really intriguing.

613
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: Yes, schematically it'd be interesting.

614
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 3: I still came out of this game feeling like the

615
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: Patriots defense needs an upgrade and talent in the offseason

616
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: and going back to what Houston did, and I mean, look,

617
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say, they're going to get will Anderson

618
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: out there, but you see the impact of a disruptive

619
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 3: defensive vent who is just a problem every single play.

620
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: And the Patriots don't have one of those guys.

621
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 3: I mean when it was really clicking with Williams and

622
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 3: Barmore at the early like and Landry was healthy and

623
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: Chase was like, yeah, it looked something like that, but

624
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: that doesn't matter. Now they got they gotta find, you know,

625
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 3: more talented, you know, deal with these guys for.

626
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 2: Some you know, some weird reason. This game had a

627
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: fifth quarter and both teams had time, you know, a

628
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: chance to regroup, go to the locker room, come back

629
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: out and play another quarter. I don't think it would

630
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: have been a lot different. I don't think the Patriots

631
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: defense had an answer at that point.

632
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: No.

633
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I've seen Drake have some slow starts when

634
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: Paul talked about the Cincinnati game and kind of turns

635
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 3: it around and you know, bounces back and starts to

636
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 3: make some throws. But I but I I think everything

637
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: we're saying I agree with it.

638
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: Just they felt like they were off they got off track.

639
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 3: It was it wasn't an amount of time, they just

640
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: they needed to they needed to find a special play

641
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: on defense or offense that they just never got.

642
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 6: I was more disappointed with the defense film than the offense,

643
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 6: because at least the offense had the first half to

644
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 6: hang its hat on, you know, like, all right, we

645
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 6: got you know, kind of worked in the second half,

646
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 6: but that first half was that was cinema. Like watching

647
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 6: that run blocking was really impressive, really impressive. Uh, you

648
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 6: know season highs and yards before contact. Uh, you know,

649
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: rushing yards like just all the way down the board.

650
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

651
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 4: They they really did play well in the first half.

652
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,199
Speaker 6: Defensively this game, they were all out of sorts, like

653
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 6: they uh, they were not on their details. They weren't

654
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 6: on their fundamentals. They're busting coverages, the techniques. I didn't

655
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 6: want to go there. They weren't DTF And you know,

656
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 6: A variable talks about it yesterday, like.

657
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 4: The rush coordination.

658
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: What do you think it means fundamental.

659
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 6: Their rush coordination on certain plays like where guys are

660
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 6: just kind of running into each other, or like one

661
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 6: line side of the lines running a stunt, but the

662
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 6: other side of the line ain't running the same stunt.

663
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 6: And you know, the the Knox touchdown was that like

664
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 6: it just it was not a very well coordinated defense

665
00:28:58,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 6: on Sunday.

666
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: So was it just pointing loss, But not the end

667
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: of the world. The Patriots can still clinch a playoff

668
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: berth with a win next week against the Ravens or

669
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: if Houston or the Colts lose or tie, they can

670
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: still clinch that playoff berth. Rather do it by winning,

671
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: and they can even clinch the AFC East. But even

672
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 2: if they lose next week, if they win the last

673
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: two against the Dolphins and the Jets, they can still

674
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: have the AFC East. So there's still a lot of

675
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: good football left to play here. Even though this was.

676
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 6: When they sees if they win the next two weeks

677
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 6: and the Bills lose to the Eagles.

678
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: They win. Yeah.

679
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 3: I like to watch the little of that Pittsburgh Miami

680
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: game last night. It made me feel a little better

681
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: because coming out of this game, it just felt like

682
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: this is all lining up to me, like a game

683
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 3: for the AFC East against the Dolphins in Week eighteen

684
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: right here.

685
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: But watching the Dolphins last night, they looked a little cold.

686
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: They didn't you know, it didn't look like they were

687
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: you know, they already got knocked out of the playoffs obviously,

688
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: even Pittsburgh. It's like it's not all that impressive, and

689
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 3: you know, you're reminded that the AFC playoff field this

690
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 3: year it's a it's a full of you know, I.

691
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: Did want to bring up one point, you know, because

692
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: everyone's saying all the bit the best teams are in

693
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: the NFC. The only silver lining of the Broncos, you know,

694
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: beating Green Bay is that, okay, AFC team one of

695
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: the you know, the better teams in the NFC, flat out,

696
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: you know, even though it's in Denver, so.

697
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: Classic like this a perfect Green Bay, like just perfect

698
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 3: one of their games, Like they kill the bad teams

699
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 3: and then they get into like a team with a

700
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: pulse and all of a sudden they just top.

701
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: But this year for them, it's been the opposite, is it.

702
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: They've lost to They've lost that home, they lost to Cleveland,

703
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: they lost that home to Carolina, you know, and beating

704
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: the bag out of Detroit, you know, like so this

705
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: year it's been a little different. But I said before

706
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: the game, I said on Thursday, I'm not a believer

707
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: in the quarterback. I think he's very up and down.

708
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: Be careful, I know I'm not. I'm not a believer

709
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: in Jordan Love. I'm just not in Packers boat Knicks.

710
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, for Denver, that's a that should is

711
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: that's you know, I I've always I've thought they'd been

712
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: good for a while, but a lot of people really

713
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: doubted them. You shouldn't. You shouldn't doubt them.

714
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 3: Now it's a good win for for Denver for sure.

715
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 3: And I mean they're getting close to locking this thing

716
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: up to get that that valuable first round by so

717
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: you know it's somebody's gonna have to go to Denver.

718
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: Fred to two out of three they would need to win, right, Yeah,

719
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: so minimum the Patriots, the Ravens, I think it's pretty

720
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: much done.

721
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: They were down in their game against the Packers.

722
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 6: Didn't watch much of it, but down nine. Yeah, they

723
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 6: were down in the second half, came back there. They

724
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 6: are another team that's kind of been a second half team.

725
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 2: Who is this?

726
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: Denver down nine and Green Bay had the ball.

727
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Parsons towards a cl I was late, got hurt late.

728
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Who Nick says nuts?

729
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean he's much better generally with the

730
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: game on line. This particular game, he was pretty good

731
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: the whole ball.

732
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: So how good would your quarterback play if he only

733
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 3: played in his home stadium?

734
00:31:55,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: Though, that's true me, it is the Patriot three times.

735
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 6: His first and second half was especially his like even

736
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 6: his first three quarters versus just the fourth quarter. He's

737
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 6: like like bottom ten quarterback in the first three quarters

738
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 6: and then a top ten quarterback in the drake. Yeah,

739
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 6: it's pretty credible.

740
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does give you some chances though, he'll he'll yeah,

741
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: you know, he's very to those defensive like he's just

742
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: got a very high energy rate to him.

743
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: And yeah, sometimes there's there's stores that make you scratch

744
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: your head, but then there are other you.

745
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: Got away against the Packers. Yeah, a couple of ping bongs, like.

746
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 6: We're just gonna gloss over the last We're not doing that.

747
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 4: Okay.

748
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: I went and looked at the told Brandon was back. No,

749
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. They ran they ran a power in

750
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: school or cleaning it up on the kickoff offensive lineman

751
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: at the point of attack running duo.

752
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: Now I had to see because I mean Brabel said,

753
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: you know was yesterday pointed out like that they do

754
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: talk the new scheme on him or you know, it

755
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: was a new kind of play and so I'm like, well,

756
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: I got to see what this looks like. And you

757
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: know what, isn't hard to figure out exactly what they

758
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: were doing. It's just it's interesting because it's so obvious

759
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: what they're doing. But you catch a team unawares and

760
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: you get that little angle and they're gone. And then

761
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: they went back to just kind of a regular right

762
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: up the middle, and then that was the last one

763
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: that they had.

764
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 6: So yeah, now he now leads the league and kickoff

765
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 6: return averages. You could probably little juice, yeah, probably could imagine.

766
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 6: But man, they just in all three phases, Like, I

767
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 6: feel like they just got kind of out coached. And

768
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 6: I'm honestly pretty surprised because I think McDermott's a good coach.

769
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 6: I think Rabel's a better coach, and I am surprised

770
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 6: that this was sort of what happened. Like I really

771
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 6: thought the Patriots with Buffalo moving forward, would have a

772
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 6: coaching advantage, and I don't think that that's how it

773
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 6: unfolded on Sunday.

774
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I said in the postgame show, we are You.

775
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: Usually you're talking about the special teams.

776
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 3: It's a miskick or a blocked punt, you know, it's

777
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: never usually your kickoff cost three times three times. They

778
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 3: especially right out of the third quarter where already felt

779
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 3: like okay, guys, like you know, we gotta we gotta

780
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: turn the momentum around here, and boom right off the.

781
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: Bat, it's like, you know what, all right? You know,

782
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: they go down and score and make a twenty four

783
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: to fourteen and make them take six or seven minutes.

784
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: You're give them the ball at midfield and it's like

785
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: they're halfway there.

786
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 6: Well, their first two touchdown drives were off of big

787
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 6: kickoff returns and it only had.

788
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: To go like forty yards forty two and forty four.

789
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 6: That's the way you get back in the game when

790
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 6: you're down by three scores is just you know, we're

791
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 6: big special team swings and field position.

792
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 2: But you know, the other thing that they just have

793
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: to change is this this second half offensive production.

794
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: Overall, they haven't been able to score in the second half.

795
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah really all year now. I haven't had good numbers

796
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: on that.

797
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 3: And his breakdown too because I because I've been meaning to,

798
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 3: like got to find some tangible like something to look at,

799
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: because the eyeball test tells you, you know, even when

800
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 3: I look back on my little book and you see

801
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 3: just the point totals.

802
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: But again we always talk about well, but they were

803
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: up big, they could take the foot off the gas,

804
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: and like now I'm getting concerned, See I do, and

805
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: I I do think it's it's important to look at

806
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: each game and not just the generalities. The generalities that

807
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: they haven't been as good offensively in the second half,

808
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,479
Speaker 1: that's a fact. I can't argue against it. I would

809
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: say they're not all the same. Like this game, they

810
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: were just bad offensively in the second half. There was

811
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: no taking the foot off the gas now, none of that.

812
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: They just didn't play as well in the second half

813
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: as they did in the first half the Giants game.

814
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: I thought they played a really good second half on

815
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. With that huge lead, they

816
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: just did what they needed to do to keep the

817
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: clock running and get out of there. So it's not

818
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: always the same. Even though they didn't they think they

819
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: only scored three points against the Giants. They scored seven

820
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,879
Speaker 1: in this one. So like you want to just look

821
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: at points, you know this would say well they were

822
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: better in this game than that game, but they weren't.

823
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: Maybe they were able to have a different mindset. If

824
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: you have that lead, just keep going, you know.

825
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: But I think they did a good job of that

826
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: in the Giants game. If we have a big lead,

827
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: we're going to possess the ball and we don't care

828
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: how many points we score, but we're going to chew

829
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: up the clock and we're going to end the game.

830
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: He needs to think about scoring points.

831
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: In this game. They needed to do something to possess

832
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 1: the ball, and they didn't, like eighteen plays in a

833
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: whole half. Is what was the time of possession in

834
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: the second half? It was like sixth plus right, Yeah.

835
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 6: Well that sixty five yard touchdown, so you had it

836
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 6: for ten minutes?

837
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, the time in the game was thirty thirty five,

838
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty four to thirty nine.

839
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 2: Oh in the second half, yeah, I don't have nobody

840
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: in the second half. I heard it was like six plus

841
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: minutes that the Patriots had the ball.

842
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 6: I think, you know, just the So in the first

843
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 6: half they're the best offense in football by pretty much

844
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 6: every metrics, scoring EPA, whatever. Second half they're twenty second

845
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 6: in offensive scoring just points, like not doing anything fancy

846
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 6: on you just points first to twenty second in the

847
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: second half, and I've downplayed it because I think it's

848
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 6: you know, it's the Giants, it's the Titans, it's the Saints.

849
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 6: It's like, you don't need to go and score forty

850
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 6: points against these teams to win those games. But this

851
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 6: was the first time that they needed it and they

852
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 6: didn't have it. You know, they they needed to keep scoring,

853
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 6: they didn't have it. You know, McDaniels historically has not

854
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 6: been a big script guy. I've heard that kicked around

855
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 6: the Bills locker room that oh, they had a great

856
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 6: first fifteen plays and then you know, they kind of

857
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 6: ran out of place. Historically speaking, he's not McDaniels is

858
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 6: not someone that calls a game that way.

859
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that has changed just they

860
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: might have.

861
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I think you know, you look

862
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 6: at the first in the second half of this game

863
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 6: in particular, where they needed to keep scoring, and you know,

864
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 6: the splits are just are not good. And really, if

865
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 6: you go back now, I don't know six weeks really

866
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 6: to that Atlanta game, they haven't really had a lot

867
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 6: of sustained offense in the second half at all, because

868
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 6: they had really they they've had four touchdown drives in

869
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 6: the second half over the last like five or six weeks,

870
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 6: and a couple of them are Henderson.

871
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: House called Tampa in this one, right.

872
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 6: So like they've really only had like one or two

873
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 6: real touchdown drives in second halfs in like a month.

874
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean eighty.

875
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: Like that's I was just to say the kind of

876
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 3: thing you can sweep under the rug when you're playing

877
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: bad teams and you're winning, and now when you're stared

878
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: in the face with a division rival and a reminder

879
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: that this is how playoff games go and you have

880
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 3: to score at the end.

881
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Now, that's why I look at this as as a positive.

882
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: As a learning experience for this team and a reminder

883
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: of what these games are like, because I do think

884
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: it's hard to make like hard judgments on your team

885
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 3: when you are winning and you're in a win streak.

886
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 3: But when you lose a game like this, especially in

887
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 3: a fashion you lost it, it's a lot easier to

888
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 3: turn the screws on the team and really focus in

889
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 3: on Look, these are the real problems right now. And

890
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 3: we've been talking about red zone defense for like three months,

891
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 3: but now we're really seeing it come home to roost,

892
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: and these are the problems that have to get fixed

893
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: or it's what's going to bounce them out of The fourth.

894
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: Quarter is eighty eight to sixty eight. It's the only

895
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: quarter they're getting out of score. As a matter of fact,

896
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: it's the only the other quarters aren't close. Yeah, the

897
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: Patriots is ninety four to sixty seven, one seventy one,

898
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: and eighty to fifty the first three quarters. But in

899
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter they get outscored by twenty That's not

900
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 1: a blip. That's fourteen games. You're getting outscored by twenty

901
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. Again, some of those right,

902
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: you can garbage point hues. They haven't allowed a lot

903
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: of garbage points. No, I'll say that they have not

904
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: allowed a lot of garbage points, but they have not

905
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: been able to score, you know, as consistently. It has

906
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: to change the second half.

907
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 6: I think that you know, I tried to take like

908
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 6: a let's look at things that are actual trends and

909
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 6: not just one off things that happen in this game,

910
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 6: because there were you know, I don't think they're going

911
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 6: to give up three huge kickoff returns in every single game, right, Like,

912
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: I think that that was just sort of the way

913
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 6: this game went. But the second half scoring is a thing, now,

914
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 6: like that's a trend. The run defense I talk about that.

915
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: Is just that's true.

916
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 6: Since Milton Williams has gone out, that run defense has cratered.

917
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 6: I mean they're bottom five in the league and across

918
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 6: the board since Milton Williams. It's a very very clear

919
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 6: split pre you know, pre Williams injury, post Williams injury. Uh,

920
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 6: with the run defense with or without Robert Spulane you know,

921
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 6: in that mix as well. Uh, and the red zone

922
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 6: defense is also last in the NFL. Yeah, So you know,

923
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 6: these are the things that are not just a one

924
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 6: half of football thing that happened just against Buffalo. You know,

925
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 6: those are the types of things that are keep happening.

926
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 6: And this run defense is going to face Lamar Jackson

927
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 6: and Derek Henry on Sunday night without Milton Williams. Like

928
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 6: we'll see about Splaine, Like hopefully he plays in that game.

929
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 6: But you don't have any time to figure it out,

930
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 6: Like you just gotta, you know, go out there and

931
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 6: do something different.

932
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 2: I guess, is this a game where you tell if

933
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna beat us? Ravens you're gonna do it with

934
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson's arm.

935
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's easy to say that, But

936
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 3: at the same time, it's you know, it only takes

937
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: one uh, you know, in other words, we're going to

938
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: sell out to stop the stop Even still, you would think,

939
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 3: you know, I I would almost wonder about sitting Spleene

940
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: out of this one. Just I mean, I know, if

941
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 3: you guys saw, there's like the odds if they win

942
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 3: or they lose, Like, it's not really an impactful game

943
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: for the Patriots overall.

944
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: Standing.

945
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: Uh, it's impactful for my site.

946
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 3: No, that's and that's totally reasonable, and good teams try

947
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: to win all the time and all that.

948
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: But at the same time, if he's not healthy, if

949
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,280
Speaker 1: he's not healthy.

950
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 3: And you know, he can't play this Sunday and now

951
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: we're going to trot him out there to try to

952
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: go tackle Derrick Henry. Now I'd like to have him

953
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 3: for the Jets and the Dolphins game and as healthy

954
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: as we can get him into the playoffs.

955
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously they don't want to limp into the playoffs.

956
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 6: The Jets and Dolphins games have more leverage, but this

957
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,320
Speaker 6: Ravens game because it is an AFC, and a common

958
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: opponent game is not like totally bit with the tiebreakers

959
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 6: is not totally nothing because.

960
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: Two, three, four, well, the Bills.

961
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 6: Already beat the Ravens earlier on in the season, So

962
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 6: it's a common opponent game, which is the third tiebreaker,

963
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 6: and it's also a conference game, which is the fourth tiebreaker.

964
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 6: So if they end up finishing with the same record

965
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 6: in this division record, now we start triggering all these

966
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 6: other you know, uh tie breakers. But I just the

967
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 6: one thing about the run defense that really I was

968
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 6: telling Duce this earlier, like watching it, like you can't

969
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 6: just right up the gut, like you know, it's come on,

970
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 6: Like that's to me, that is like not schematic, it's

971
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 6: not that's that's a little bit of pride. Like they

972
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 6: ran it right up the a game down your throat

973
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 6: with James Cook and like at some point, like you

974
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 6: put Barmore and Tonga inside there and you say enough

975
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 6: is enough, Like you can't just let them keep doing that.

976
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: And you know, like when they run up there, like

977
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 2: I think they had two runs for eleven, another one

978
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: for sixty if something like that.

979
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: They didn't break any point, they didn't break.

980
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: Any but they're getting first downs on one run.

981
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: That's it was all positive runs, you know, you know

982
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: they they were doing. And you know, like you know,

983
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: Evan when you brought up like forgetting about the things

984
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: that were one offs, and I agree, the kick coverage

985
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: is the one off. And I think that you can

986
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: sort of delude yourself into thinking, oh, well, we're not

987
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: going to allow those kickoff returns. Do you honestly think

988
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't have had five straight touchdown drives if

989
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: they had to go seventy yards instead of forty yards

990
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: or fifty yards or whatever it was the way that

991
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: game was unfolding. Yeah, yeah, Like the total yards that

992
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo ended up with were because there was no more

993
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: yards to get right, you know, like they just every

994
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: drive ended with a touchdown, you know, for five straight drive.

995
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: The more plays you you know, force them to you know, execute, of.

996
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: Course you don't. You don't want to give them the

997
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: ball at midfield. I'm not suggesting that that was irrelevant.

998
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't irrelevant. It was it was a problem in

999
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: this game. I'm just saying you can make yourself think,

1000
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: like we'll just we'll clean up the kick coverage and

1001
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: then we win this game. I don't think you do. No, No,

1002
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: it's you need to clean up the kick coverage. Yeah, absolutely,

1003
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: I was more talking about what No.

1004
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 6: I know the kickoff coverage is one but that was

1005
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 6: one off. I also expect Drake to play a lot

1006
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 6: better than he did in the second half.

1007
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: I got a hole.

1008
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 6: That was a one off, and just from all the

1009
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 6: things that we have at our disposal, like he's never

1010
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 6: struggled that much with cover two.

1011
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: So like I like to me, like that was that

1012
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: had to have even.

1013
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 6: His rookie season, he didn't look like that against that

1014
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 6: type of defense. So you have to hope that that

1015
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 6: was just a one off. But the run defense thing

1016
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 6: is a real thing. That's been happening really since the

1017
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 6: Tampa Bay game, which Milon Williams played in. But even

1018
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 6: you know, post Milton Williams is kind of just better

1019
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 6: for the.

1020
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: So I had a prediction last night we had our

1021
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: company holiday party. Yeah, Evan, you weren't there.

1022
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: Here's the lab.

1023
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 2: So I made a prediction that I'm going to make

1024
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: publicly here all week. I think Rabel is going to

1025
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 2: be up Drake May's ass. It's going to be a

1026
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: tough week for Drake May. But Drake may will have

1027
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: a three hundred plus yard game against the Ravens and

1028
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: he'll get a game ball in the locker room after

1029
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: the game. Okay, so there you go. I like that's

1030
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 2: my prediction. I like, well, I mean, I gotta be honest.

1031
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: When Rabel said the thing about Drake, I didn't really flinch.

1032
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 2: I mean thought it was definitely interesting and notable, but

1033
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: it was it was a left turn.

1034
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't have to question was a point Christian Barmore, Right.

1035
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: Well, and I think he was doing the thing where

1036
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: you try to talk about all your play all your players,

1037
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: but but.

1038
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: Right he talked about the quarterback on the question about right,

1039
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: but who you go to start playing? Christian Gonzales sure

1040
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: didn't allow catching, I know, but he didn't like can

1041
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: we talk about that too? Oh yeah, yeah no, well

1042
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: well let's wait. First hold that.

1043
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 4: I don't know, it didn't my hour to grieve, and

1044
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: then I like it.

1045
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: I think Drake needs to have that. Drake needs to

1046
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: going to say, don't misunderstand me saying that. I think

1047
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: that there was a directive. It was like a directed

1048
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: comment that Rabel had with me saying like this is bad.

1049
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: This is like, no, but I thought it was interesting.

1050
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 1: Fred's theory of him being up Drake's backside is that's

1051
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: probably accurate based on that comment. Yeah, Like I think

1052
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: he feels like he needs I think he knows that

1053
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: this kid's incredibly talent wanted, and we need to do

1054
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: whatever we can to get the most out of him.

1055
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: We need him to be the best leader he can be.

1056
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: We need to you know, we need him, We need

1057
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: him to be everything we need that guy to be.

1058
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: And all he knows, all Rabel knows is Tom Brady

1059
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: and how he did it, you know. And I'm not

1060
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: talking about how he did it physically, how he did

1061
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: all the other stuff. And I think that's what he's looking.

1062
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 2: At, you know. And you could say, well, let's putting

1063
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 2: too much pressure on the young kid, And if I'm Verbel,

1064
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, too bad.

1065
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Well you want to do that.

1066
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not going to win.

1067
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: Unless two minutes left in the game. You're down for

1068
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: that's pressure, Like, you can't.

1069
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 2: Too bad you're going to do Like, if you can't

1070
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: take my pressure, you're certainly not going to be able

1071
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: to take the pressure of the playoffs. So let's go.

1072
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: Let's go and I think Vrabel is the right kind

1073
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 3: of coach to take that stuff with Drake, and especially

1074
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 3: Drake having three older brothers, I think he's used to

1075
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: that kind of getting called out. I mean, look at

1076
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 3: the video we put out right when he was trapped

1077
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: and his brothers are all calling him names and stuff.

1078
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 5: You know.

1079
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: But I think Mike Rabel is the right guy for

1080
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 3: this job. We've heard about them talking about Drake pronouncing

1081
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: better and talking better in the huddle, and you know,

1082
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 3: like these little things that he's going to need to device.

1083
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 2: He's no you know, wilting Violet or whatever the saying is,

1084
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: shrinking Violet. He'll be able to take it. He's not

1085
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: Tony Easton. He'll be able to take the criticism. And

1086
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: I would imagine he accepts it. He wants it. He

1087
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: wants to be coached hard.

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00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: He said that, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of Tony's and check out the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 3: five podcast available now on all your podcasts outlets.

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Speaker 2: Whatever. Oh, come on, you can do better than I had.

1092
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't land the plane is probably.

1093
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: Better than that.

1094
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 1: All right, I hate it? Scripted?

1095
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 2: Have more did you talk about?

1096
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 3: Let's talk about go catch but we were in the

1097
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 3: press box during the game going like, oh god, I

1098
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 3: got torched on that one.

1099
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Oh Gonzo, he's a look at step behind on that one.

1100
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: He dropped it, thank god. Coleman also took his manhood

1101
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: on that.

1102
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 4: Josh, I don't have anything, are you?

1103
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: Are you worried about rankling the masses?

1104
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 6: No, I'm I probably should just I don't have anything

1105
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 6: nice to say, so I'm just not going to say

1106
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 6: it at all.

1107
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess we'd bob line. He it was

1108
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: a sneaky, subpar game.

1109
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: I don't even know it was sneaky.

1110
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, look, you know he got tours three

1111
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 6: times in the game, and man coverage busted a zone

1112
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 6: coverage got mauled by Keon Coleman on a design quarterback

1113
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 6: run where he didn't look too interested in trying to

1114
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 6: make a tackle. You know, it's December football, like the

1115
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 6: playoffs are coming up. You know, it's you're the number

1116
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 6: one corner, Like let's go, like what are we doing?

1117
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: You know?

1118
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 4: I mean, like Josh Palmer, here's.

1119
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 6: A thirty two year old Brandon Cooks, Like, come on, man,

1120
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 6: you're better than that. Like that's the part that's frustrating

1121
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 6: about it is we know he's better than that.

1122
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you do. In the game, we see

1123
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: Chucky Trees running stride for stride down the.

1124
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 4: Side, right right right, and yeah, like I mean you

1125
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: could art like.

1126
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 1: Speak Paul.

1127
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 6: They ran the crossers on that first plate of cooks

1128
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 6: that he dropped, and like he got picked a little bit, sure,

1129
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 6: but like you're Christian Zalvez is, there's all pro corner

1130
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 6: Brandon cooks, So go ahead.

1131
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: Sorry, alright.

1132
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: So I got an email from a woman and I

1133
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: apologize because I must have deleted it. But when I

1134
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 2: read it, I'm like, hmm.

1135
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: That you know.

1136
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 2: So it was cold, yeah, you know, and Josh Allen

1137
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 2: comes out with long sleeves and looked like maybe even

1138
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: something underneath that, and you know, ready for the cold

1139
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: and our guy comes out with the short sleeves. You know,

1140
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be tough. But is there a less is

1141
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: there a lesson to be learned?

1142
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: There?

1143
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 2: It's like no warm up, warm up, like get warm,

1144
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: do whatever you have to do without infringing on your

1145
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: your passing motion or whatever. But don't you know you

1146
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: don't have to be a hero that way. It was

1147
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 2: an interesting you have to do to be warm.

1148
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 3: I I was also noticed that on the walk in

1149
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 3: videos a lot of guys were walking in and T shirts.

1150
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 3: Mac Hollins of course had pants do it out there,

1151
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: but it just made me wonder if this was, you know, something,

1152
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 3: if that they a message this week of the cold,

1153
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 3: but this is Buffalo. But it felt a little bit though,

1154
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 3: it felt a little not performative.

1155
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: Is probably the area, but you know, trying to send a.

1156
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: Message that the cold doesn't bother us, you know, and

1157
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: and I don't know, I might be reading way too

1158
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 3: much into it, but that was kind of the I'm

1159
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: not criticizing guy's.

1160
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: Got a T shirt on coming in. You know, like

1161
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: each individual guy sort of knows what he's most comfortable with.

1162
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: So if Drake is just not comfortable with sleeves, like

1163
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: forget about the weather, like, then I'm perfectly fine the

1164
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: whole Like I'm macho, I don't have any time for that.

1165
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: It's offensive line. Nobody, nobody wore more clothes than Tom

1166
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: Brady when it was cold. Nobody scuba stack and he's

1167
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: the best bad weather quarterback I've ever seen. So whatever

1168
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 1: you need to do individually to make sure you can

1169
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: perform is what I want you to do. And if

1170
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: that means you don't wear sleeves, fine with it. But

1171
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: I don't want you not to wear sleeves because you're

1172
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,240
Speaker 1: trying to send a message to the other team baseball.

1173
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 4: That's exactly how I feel.

1174
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 6: Is just you gotta He might need to just kind

1175
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,720
Speaker 6: of go through some different iterations of his cold weather

1176
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 6: here figuring it out, Uh, Will Campbell. I remember that

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00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 6: he doesn't wear a shirt underneath his pads and hasn't,

1178
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 6: like since college.

1179
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: And that's fine if that's what he's comfortable playing.

1180
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 6: The Saint Baton Rube like you know, like this is

1181
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 6: and he's not playing right now, so I get that.

1182
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 6: But you know, at the same time, you know, did

1183
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 6: Brady I don't remember, like did he He didn't.

1184
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: Wear the scuba suit like right away, like that was probably.

1185
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: Learn you know, what did he wear in the Oakland

1186
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: game in the playoffs?

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00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: You know, the snowball game?

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00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 5: And I think he.

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00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Had would have to quite scuba suit? Yet No, I

1190
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: don't think he had progressed with I never liked the head,

1191
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: the head part of it, and.

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00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: I don't know if the scuba suits.

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00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 6: The answer for Drake I'm just saying, like this is

1194
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 6: unfortunately part of being a young player in the league

1195
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 6: is he's also going to have to have some trials

1196
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 6: and tribulations of what gear he's going to play in

1197
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 6: cold weather. You know, gloves, no gloves, sleeves, no sleeves

1198
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 6: like you know, long John's underneath the pants or no,

1199
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Speaker 6: you know, like you're gonna have to figure it out.

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00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,720
Speaker 6: And Brady eventually went to the scuba suit and it worked,

1201
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 6: but that might not be he might feel constrained in

1202
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 6: the Scooba suit, like I don't know.

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00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 3: I remember in twenty one when Matt came out, I

1204
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 3: think it was up in Buffalo, and it was just like, oh,

1205
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: he looks cold like and he had the scuba suit

1206
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: on too. That's at least what I'll say about Drake,

1207
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 3: like he never really gives a vibe of like feeling

1208
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: cold like he at least that's on part. But I agree,

1209
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean, just more experienced stuff he's got to learn,

1210
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 3: especially playing in this weather.

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of the thing that I'm talking about,

1212
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: Like I if you you can tell when you look, yeah,

1213
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: that guy looks cold, right, Oh, that guy's comfortable. Like,

1214
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: so I'm telling you that Drake may look I didn't

1215
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: think he looked cold the other day.

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00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 2: No, I didn't either. Yeah, I didn't either. But it

1217
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 2: was an interesting email that I thought, Oh, you know.

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00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, just look at how light of the snowball game

1219
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: and Tom definitely had sleeves. Yeah.

1220
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll see in a couple of weeks against

1221
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: Miami and it'll be you know, January at that point.

1222
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: So can I say a couple of things.

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00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: I feel like there's too many.

1224
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 6: A couple of nice things, real quick design quarterback runs

1225
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 6: in the red zone. Yeah, there you go.

1226
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 2: You're welcome.

1227
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go.

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00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 4: That's what we're talking.

1229
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: Just like he's like, and after the bye that's when

1230
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: we'll start running. I was listening to Patriots and you

1231
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: know what they mentioned struggle you.

1232
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 6: Can go like, but yeah, the design quarterback runs two

1233
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 6: different design plays for him. Both of them worked. Even

1234
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 6: just putting that on film. Yeah, it's good for other

1235
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 6: teams to worry about.

1236
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 4: That was great.

1237
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 6: The whole run game in the first half was awesome,

1238
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 6: Like they ran the terrific album unbelievably. Well, that was

1239
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 6: the next place I was going to gore on Henderson's

1240
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 6: A Star.

1241
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, that guy's awesome.

1242
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 6: So that run hit up and I know, like some

1243
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 6: you know, yeah, like could he hit some more singles

1244
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 6: with the Homers Every once in a while. I actually

1245
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 6: thought in this game he actually did hit a couple

1246
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 6: of singles. Also, you know, I had a couple of

1247
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 6: four or five, you know, eight yard runs.

1248
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: He's finding himself here, Yeah, starting to get it.

1249
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,439
Speaker 6: That that speed is different, you know, Like it's one

1250
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 6: thing to see the backside, you know, open up and develop,

1251
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 6: but then to be able to outrun the entire defense

1252
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 6: right to the edge to get the best case scenario.

1253
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: And this is no disrespect to Remindra who you guys know,

1254
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: I really like his physicality. But if the same exact

1255
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 1: play unfolds with Reminder, the best case scenario is a

1256
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: fifteen yard Yeah, like he slips out the backside, gets

1257
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: up the sideline, and the safety comes over and has

1258
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: an angle on it and probably knocks him out of bound.

1259
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,239
Speaker 1: Whereas Henderson comes out the backside and they cannot he

1260
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: outruns the angle. I know, it's like the rabbit drill

1261
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: at training and listen, I know a lot of keeps

1262
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: it when the rabbits.

1263
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: A lot of people like oh you know, it wasn't

1264
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: a very good block. I give a lot of credit.

1265
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: And I was impressed with Drake may run and stride

1266
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 2: for stride with him down there and getting in the way.

1267
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, like I love that was like I

1268
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: didn't have to follow down.

1269
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 2: Effort, that's all it was. But okay, I love the effort.

1270
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: Paul and I were joking that, like it's gone.

1271
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 2: For I don't care about effort.

1272
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I care about effort. I just I'm not

1273
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: going to get lost in that play. Like that play

1274
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: was Tarvi on Henderson. He's a special test was special.

1275
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: I just love you did not talking about sort of

1276
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: the reaction outside.

1277
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: I just love mouth.

1278
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: I agree with everything you said. Yeah that was effort.

1279
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 3: Now, Paul and I were joking that, like the offense

1280
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 3: is kind of completely flip flop. Now it's like it

1281
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 3: used to be the last couple of years all short,

1282
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 3: like you we got to execute twelve play drives.

1283
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: Now it's like one two play drives.

1284
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 3: Like they're all explosive and when they don't get their explosives,

1285
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 3: now they fall.

1286
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: Apart all of a sudden. It's like you can find

1287
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: a happy middle. What I wouldn't do for a thirteen

1288
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: player sixty four yard driving. To be able to.

1289
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 6: Reverse the field like that in the NFL is impressive,

1290
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 6: Like you're not supposed to be able to do that

1291
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 6: at this level. That's like a college thing to be

1292
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 6: able to do that.

1293
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: But that was special.

1294
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 6: I didn't realize this because we're not we're not betting

1295
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 6: folks in this department. But he's the favorite for Offensive

1296
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 6: Rookie of the Year at the moment. Yeah, and you

1297
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 6: know it's a little bit of a down year for

1298
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 6: offensive players, but in general they right now to have

1299
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 6: him as the Him and Nibuka and Ted are like

1300
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 6: the three front runners.

1301
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: And Abuka is kind of tailed off, whereas Henderson.

1302
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Speaker 4: Is really like eleven hundred yards.

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Speaker 5: What nicll, I knew you'd be here.

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Speaker 13: No, let me just apologize to Nicole and everybody else.

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Speaker 13: I'm sure I was boring as hell yesterday, and when

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Speaker 13: you guys heard that the open locker room, the locker

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Speaker 5: So I apologize for but I knew you'd be here today,

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Speaker 5: So go ahead, Karen, I'm great. How are you thank

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Speaker 5: you for asking.

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Speaker 9: The defense allowed touchdowns on five straight, what do you

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Speaker 9: have to do to get that us back on track.

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Speaker 13: Well, it's not just that unit. I think the one

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Speaker 13: thing that we've done in victory has been to play

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Speaker 13: very complimentary. And I would say that to give the

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Speaker 13: third ranked offense the field position that they did.

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Speaker 5: Is tough. It is tough.

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Speaker 13: And again we have to play better defensively to play

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Speaker 13: much better, play much better in all three phases to

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Speaker 13: beat good football teams or beat anybody.

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Speaker 5: So again, we talked about getting the drive stop.

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Speaker 13: We talked about finding ways to create some turnovers and

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Speaker 13: continue to hunt for turnovers and hammer and tip and

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Speaker 13: you know, try to have to knock it away from

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Speaker 13: somebody and you know, and then just figure out what

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Speaker 13: we can do, you know when they when they get

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Speaker 13: down there to to get the drive stop. There's too

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Speaker 13: many touchdowns on third down to where we had some

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Speaker 13: positive plays and had everybody in tune and playing well

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Speaker 13: and getting to stop and then you know, giving up

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Speaker 13: a touchdown on.

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Speaker 5: On third down.

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Speaker 13: So that's a that's a long answer to say that

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Speaker 13: I'd said we were disappointed, but not discouraged.

1381
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Speaker 5: And there's a lot of.

1382
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Speaker 13: Good snaps of defense, but you know, not enough, and

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01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 13: good snaps offense and not enough, and some good snaps

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Speaker 13: of special teams, but not enough. And give them a

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Speaker 13: lot of credit. You know, we knew that they weren't

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01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 13: going to go away, and uh, you know, we weren't

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Speaker 13: able to ultimately, you do enough there at the end

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Speaker 13: of the game, they.

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Speaker 14: Had a big advantage in terms of time of possession.

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Speaker 2: Show did you feel like the defense was fatigued at all?

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Speaker 5: Again?

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Speaker 13: That was I mean, you just don't want to be

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01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 13: out there that long against them and against a big

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01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,200
Speaker 13: offensive line, and that can kind of lean on you

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Speaker 13: and wear on you. And you know, so again that's

1396
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Speaker 13: the complementary phase that we talked about. You know, that's

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 13: the best defense against the good offenses, being able to

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Speaker 13: possess the football. And you know, we didn't do that.

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Speaker 13: We didn't do that in the second half. We didn't

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Speaker 13: put drives together, we didn't convert when we needed to.

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Speaker 14: Mike, we really bring up special teams unless it's really

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01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 14: good or probably really bad. The returns, even when you

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01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 14: were doing well, the returns were there, Buffalo. Was it

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Speaker 14: a structural in looking at the plays? Did Buffalo do something.

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Speaker 13: Oh, there was a new scheme then on the first one,

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01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 13: and then after that, I thought we did a nice

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Speaker 13: job against the double team over there on the sideline.

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Speaker 13: After the first one, I thought Anthony adjusted really well

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01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 13: to that and made it cut back and we tackled it.

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Speaker 13: And then we you know, then there's like a fit

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Speaker 13: here and a fit there. And if they you know,

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Speaker 13: this is not an indictment on the officiating.

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Speaker 5: I know what this is.

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Speaker 13: And if they're going to grab you, and they grab

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Speaker 13: you like this and you're we stand there head to

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Speaker 13: head and nose and nose with them, that that's not holding.

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Speaker 5: It's not holding in this league. And I don't want

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Speaker 5: it to be.

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Speaker 13: And so you have to do enough to cause restriction

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Speaker 13: at the point of attack so that they see that

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Speaker 13: and it gives them a reason to consider throwing a flag.

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Speaker 13: So we have to understand that and we have to

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Speaker 13: be able to shed and we have to be able

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Speaker 13: to you know, create restriction at the point of attack.

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Speaker 5: And we didn't do.

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Speaker 13: That, and then so that they they they blocked us,

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Speaker 13: and we were content with that.

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Speaker 5: Too many times.

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Speaker 1: Laudra had the penalty.

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Speaker 5: That's a bad decision. What's the message to the team

1431
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 5: when things that does bad decision.

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Speaker 13: That's what I told them in the moment. That's what

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01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 13: I tell him again at twelve thirty. There's nothing else.

1434
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 13: It's what it is. He made a good play, good

1435
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 13: positive play, like they did anything wrong. Hit him at

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Speaker 13: the sideline and stood there and you know, we made

1437
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Speaker 13: a bad decision.

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Speaker 15: Looked like there was a wrinkle where they had an

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01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 15: offensive lineman when you're blocking on one.

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Speaker 1: Of the kick returns. Was that a wrinkle you were expecting?

1441
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: And that changer approach at all when you have.

1442
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 13: A big man in the game like that, Well that's

1443
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 13: you know, made a copycat from earlier in the season.

1444
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 13: They hadn't shown that, but we have to be prepared

1445
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 13: for things that show up on tape and you know,

1446
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 13: being able to adjust. And you know again that that's

1447
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 13: been a strength of ours on the kickoff coverage, and

1448
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 13: that was a strength of theirs coming in. We knew

1449
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 13: that that was going to be a challenge at ninety

1450
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 13: eight year touchdown against the Texans a few weeks ago,

1451
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 13: and you know.

1452
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 5: We weren't good enough. And again in that matchup, I want.

1453
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: Them expected was what happened with Robert in the pre

1454
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: roll up this Blane or was that sort of the

1455
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 3: plan just known.

1456
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Speaker 13: When well, I mean, I just think it was just

1457
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,960
Speaker 13: to see what we can get and she you know,

1458
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 13: whether he was going to be able to do it

1459
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 13: or it was going to be in an emergency role

1460
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 13: and there's not a lot of step there outside of him,

1461
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 13: and you know, could have had a few guys up,

1462
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 13: but didn't think that that was really going to make

1463
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 13: an impact on the game day roster. It felt like, yeah,

1464
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 13: whether it's the sixth out side linebacker or the sixth

1465
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 13: receiver or the forced tight end or whatever it may

1466
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Speaker 13: have been. I just didn't feel like that that was

1467
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Speaker 13: going to make that much.

1468
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Speaker 5: Of a difference or a difference at all with Milton.

1469
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys have rotation of players.

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Speaker 13: Did thought you pinched Corey repeated league?

1471
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 14: But there's more of a burden fall or do you

1472
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 14: expect more from Christian Parmover in terms of his playing ability?

1473
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 13: And yeah, we expect that in this league. We've said

1474
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 13: this that your best players have to play good for

1475
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 13: you to win, and we consider him one of our

1476
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 13: better players. And just like other quarterback, we expect, you know,

1477
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,120
Speaker 13: quarterback is gonna have to play good for us to win.

1478
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 13: Whoever we consider to be our best players, they have

1479
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Speaker 13: to play good in this league.

1480
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 5: That's what this thing comes down to.

1481
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 13: So we'll we'll continue to find ways to to make

1482
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 13: production and get production and get stops and show everybody

1483
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 13: the good ones and the things that we need to

1484
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Speaker 13: improve on.

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Speaker 16: I was just.

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Speaker 1: Curious with the penalties.

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Speaker 17: We planned it.

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Speaker 5: Actually I hate it. I just was like, like, those

1489
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 5: are the same hats with these.

1490
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Speaker 10: Spoke about the penalties this morning radio.

1491
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.

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01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 6: It's it did seem like some of the players also

1493
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 6: didn't agree with some of the calls or what's kind

1494
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 6: of your message to keep.

1495
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 5: Their head and being yeah, there's nothing that we can do.

1496
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 13: They see what they see, they call it the best

1497
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Speaker 13: that they can.

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Speaker 5: I'm confident in that.

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Speaker 13: We have to know what it is that they're looking

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Speaker 13: for to call penalties. They have mechanics that they're looking for,

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01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 13: and we have to understand that and we have to

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 13: play to that that no more, no less. And yeah,

1503
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 13: the officiating or the penalties weren't the reason.

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01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 5: That were lost.

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01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 10: Okay, you guys have talked about having a coordinated rush.

1506
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 2: Can you give us any insight as to what happened

1507
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: with the rush on the touchdown pass to time.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it wasn't coordinated. It wasn't coordinated, and it was

1509
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 13: not executed properly. Coverage wasn't executed properly. And unfortunately, when

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Speaker 13: you do that against a good player, you know, they

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01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 13: make you pay. Any mistakes that you make get magnified

1512
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 13: against an excellent quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Two minute drive at the.

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Speaker 12: End of the first half. And he thought to be

1515
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 12: more aggressive there or was the how just seating up

1516
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 12: the clock?

1517
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Speaker 13: Well, I mean we were trying to be aggressive, you know,

1518
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 13: we were. We were trying and I don't think that

1519
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Speaker 13: it and we wanted to get going there and make

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01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 13: sure that you get the first first down and then

1521
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 13: you kind of get rolling. And then the decision, you know,

1522
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 13: maybe had twenty three seconds they you know, I figured

1523
01:07:24,120 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 13: they were going to reverse that. Wanted to keep the

1524
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 13: time out in case of an emergency. We were already

1525
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 13: in field goal range. I figured that we could use

1526
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 13: the timeout in case something happens, you get a ten

1527
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 13: second runoff, all those things. I think it's important that

1528
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 13: you keep that time out when you can. Went with

1529
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 13: that decision. I thought it was six seconds and one

1530
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 13: time out. I thought that was very well executed for

1531
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 13: Remondra to break free there. I thought about taking a

1532
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 13: shot and again, and you just is it six point

1533
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 13: one on the clock or is it six point nine?

1534
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 13: I would hate to look up there and have a

1535
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 13: go ball from the thirty yard line and look up

1536
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 13: and have it be zero and not one, and then

1537
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 13: look like an idiot. So if it was six point nine,

1538
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 13: I would have taken a shot. If it was six

1539
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,719
Speaker 13: point one, I probably would have done what we did,

1540
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 13: if that makes any sense. And you.

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01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 1: And now great moments in.

1542
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 2: History, Paul, I have something to take up with you though.

1543
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: You You just came out with your all time numberless

1544
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: for the Patriots, and I think it's all in fun.

1545
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:45,280
Speaker 2: I know that. But you've got the number one, and

1546
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: you've got Cam Newton as the person who wore it best,

1547
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 2: and like he hasn't already, how can you already want

1548
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,000
Speaker 2: it best?

1549
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: I mean, put Tony anybody else wearing it, but he

1550
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: he's already won it. Best silverman shot of him wearing

1551
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: the number one, add anybody else.

1552
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 2: There should have been a rule that you have to

1553
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: have appeared in at least one game to be able

1554
01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 2: to be on your list.

1555
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: I didn't have any sense of humor at all, freds No.

1556
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just come on, come on, come on,

1557
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 2: what about Tony Frankly, maybe Denis Stubberfield should be in

1558
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 2: there somewhere.

1559
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: You know, my favorite one was forty three? He was

1560
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: ninety nine?

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01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 5: Right?

1562
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: Was he ninety two?

1563
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's another great moment from all right

1564
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,400
Speaker 2: back here and Patriot's Unfiltered A five five Pats five

1565
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 2: hundred is the hotline podcast at Patriots dot com is

1566
01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 2: the email address. We've got some people that have been

1567
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 2: hanging on for the better part of it more than

1568
01:09:44,920 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: an hour.

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01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, that was therapeutic. No, no, no, we had

1570
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot to chew on.

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01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: I had to talk. So let's start with Herb and DC.

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 2: What's up, Herb? And thanks for your patients? As no

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01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 2: Socks would say, Okay.

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Speaker 17: I feel a little better now, to be honest with you, right,

1575
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 17: I think the thing is right has to catch a

1576
01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 17: lot of flags, and I feel like it was just

1577
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:14,799
Speaker 17: an outline performance.

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01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 5: Right.

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01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 18: Granted, it's not a deal to give up thirty five.

1580
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 17: Points in a game, but.

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01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 18: Ultimately I think that the job description of a number

1582
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 18: three pick talking about Drake May is he has to

1583
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 18: be able to come some of those things right. If

1584
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 18: your left tackle is out, what's the lating is out,

1585
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 18: the defense having.

1586
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: A bad day.

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01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 18: Ultimately, I think he is part of the job script

1588
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 18: to be able to be able to do it.

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 2: I think your head coach agrees with you, right, But.

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Speaker 18: Having said that, I want to reiterate my personal confidence

1591
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,920
Speaker 18: in him, saying that he will do this right.

1592
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 17: That will come another time, whether it's over the next

1593
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 17: three four games and in the.

1594
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 18: Postseason where he has to deliver. And I'll just because

1595
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 18: to me, he's on a mental midget, right, He's I'm

1596
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 18: basically up bringing everything like I'm apprecive you fine, Yeah.

1597
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 2: Well that we're all counting on that, that you're right

1598
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: and that he is the guy. So thanks Herban, thanks

1599
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 2: for holding on. Let's go up to Canada, Sean's and Vancouver.

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01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: What's up, Sean.

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01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 19: I have to preface what I'm about to say by

1602
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 19: just pointing out that, yes, I am disappointed that the

1603
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 19: Patriots blew a twenty one point lead, that they lost

1604
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 19: the Bills, and that they had these huge issues in

1605
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,640
Speaker 19: the red zone and run defense again, but fred I

1606
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 19: felt the point I have to point out, like, I'm sorry,

1607
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 19: but the window for the Bills is not close. I

1608
01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 19: was speaking with someone who has no horse in this race,

1609
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 19: and they said, what a great game goodness was. It

1610
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 19: was just a fabulous game to watch on NFL. And

1611
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 19: I think, you know, maybe for the next ten years

1612
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 19: this will be the case A You're going to see

1613
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 19: trick Me and Josh Allen games as NFL must watch TV.

1614
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 19: These could be the two dominant teams in the AFC.

1615
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 19: And now in terms of where we're going, I think

1616
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 19: the Bills are going to be the fifth seed and

1617
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 19: they're going to have to event you know, they'll probably

1618
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 19: win the game and then land up going to Denver

1619
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 19: and the Patriots will probably be the two seed and

1620
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 19: we'll have to face Houston at home in the playoffs. Hopefully,

1621
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 19: you know, Patriots will prevail, but I don't know. Also, Paul,

1622
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 19: I want to point out, you know you were talking

1623
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,479
Speaker 19: before last week about how you get things wrong. I

1624
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,879
Speaker 19: want to point out how you get things right. Remember,

1625
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 19: prior to twenty twenty two's draft, how you put it

1626
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 19: pointed out how shook. Here is your your long shot

1627
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 19: for the draft, like I think he went in the

1628
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,639
Speaker 19: fifth round or something like that, and that was your guy,

1629
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 19: so you got to get props for that. I'll let

1630
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 19: you go and comment on that, all right.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Sean.

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01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: Thanks Sean.

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 6: As as much as I agree with some of the

1634
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 6: first call said, it did score thirty one points, and

1635
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 6: if you're gonna score thirty one points.

1636
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: Should be enough to win.

1637
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 4: You should be enough to win.

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 6: As bat he did not play well in the second half,

1639
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 6: and I understand the point that you have to keep playing,

1640
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 6: you know, scoring, and sometimes you're gonna have to win

1641
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 6: a game thirty eight thirty five against Josh Allen, But

1642
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 6: I would you know, this one's just as much on

1643
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 6: the defense and the special teams as is Day.

1644
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a total system breakdown, all three phases.

1645
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 2: Let him down. Alex in Connecticut, what's up, Alex?

1646
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:33,839
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, big fan of the show. Thank you, I'm listener.

1647
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,719
Speaker 20: I just wanted to say that I didn't want to lose,

1648
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,519
Speaker 20: but I think that the Patriots needed a loss before

1649
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 20: the season ended. The regular season, I thought it was

1650
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 20: going to be against Baltimore, But to be honest, now

1651
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 20: I think we're going to come in and take care

1652
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 20: of them. I think the defense steps up and maybe

1653
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 20: holds him to seventeen twenty one points while the offense

1654
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 20: focuses on running the ball. I think we need to

1655
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,000
Speaker 20: get that. And because Drake seems like he's been some

1656
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 20: sort of I don't even know the word for it,

1657
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 20: but I do think that he throws a deep touchdown

1658
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,800
Speaker 20: because we didn't have much of that last game. I

1659
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 20: think the loss couldn't have come at a better time

1660
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 20: with three games to go, and that the team needed

1661
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,679
Speaker 20: to really feel that would that be instead? I'm scared

1662
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 20: about the number one seed and I'll take it off there.

1663
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 20: Thanks guys.

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01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean longot, we're in the back seed of

1665
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: the number one seed. We need a coapse. Yeah, we

1666
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,839
Speaker 2: need Denver to lose a couple of games here.

1667
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 1: And now they get and as usual Fred, where are

1668
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: those games going to be taking place in Denver? Two

1669
01:14:33,720 --> 01:14:34,000
Speaker 1: of them?

1670
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,600
Speaker 4: And now they get Kansas City without my homes.

1671
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 1: Right, so it's the one road game.

1672
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I want to.

1673
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 4: See it ain't looking good.

1674
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 2: I'm more I just want to win the AFC East.

1675
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: That's my big thing.

1676
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah me too, me too, But I just wonder

1677
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 3: like what are they going to benefit from what they learned?

1678
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 3: You know, like what is the upshot of losing this game?

1679
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 3: Like I and I get what he's saying, Like, you know,

1680
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 3: and I said earlier, you can it's a lot easier

1681
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: to build off of things, I think when the team

1682
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,599
Speaker 3: loses and you have their attention. But it hasn't really

1683
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 3: changed how I view the team though, you know, and

1684
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if they, oh, because they lost this game,

1685
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 3: now they're going to win a playoff game, Like I

1686
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 3: still kind of see it the same way.

1687
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like the Pittsburgh game, they turned the

1688
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 6: ball over a bunch and they did lose, win or

1689
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 6: learn from that loss in that sense, but that was

1690
01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 6: a tangible thing of like you turned it over five

1691
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 6: times and that's why you lost. I will say defensively,

1692
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 6: I said earlier, like you need to be more more

1693
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 6: buttoned up than that in these big games. And I

1694
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 6: wonder if this is kind of a wake up call

1695
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 6: to have the focus be a little bit more like

1696
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 6: when you're playing the offenses that they had been playing,

1697
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 6: you don't necessarily need to be on your p's and

1698
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 6: q's like you do against Buffalo and Baltimore and the

1699
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 6: teams you're going to play in the playoffs, So hopefully

1700
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,879
Speaker 6: they look at it and say, like, you know, we can't.

1701
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 6: We can't have all these breakdowns, mental breakdowns. It's one

1702
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 6: thing to get beat, it's another thing to kind of

1703
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 6: hand them things right.

1704
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 3: And then it shines on your lack of talent too.

1705
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I think when a defense plays really well together,

1706
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 3: you can cover up.

1707
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 1: Some of those things.

1708
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 3: But when you don't have you know, your best players

1709
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: playing the best, or they're not in there, and you know,

1710
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 3: and then you realize, like the linebackers look a lot

1711
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 3: like the linebackers did last year, where it's tough for

1712
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 3: them to make plays and to anticipate to get off

1713
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: of blocks, and you know, it's just that the performance

1714
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 3: remind me a lot of last year's excuse me defense,

1715
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,400
Speaker 3: you know, watching the tail plate, watching them, you know,

1716
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 3: just behind the play, behind the play, you know it's

1717
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 3: already James Cook's already going. And another point was I

1718
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,439
Speaker 3: think they missed like ten tackles too. I mean, that's

1719
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 3: a that's a problem from earlier in the season that

1720
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 3: it kind of rectified itself, and you know, they that

1721
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:36,640
Speaker 3: I think that's another symptom of.

1722
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 1: Overall But that's another example. What Evan's talking about is

1723
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:43,480
Speaker 1: when you've played against teams that aren't really capable.

1724
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 4: Of taking advantage of bad football, making.

1725
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: You miss attack. There you go, yep, you know what

1726
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you're playing again. You know, James Cook,

1727
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 1: he's a little bit better than you know, uh, Travis

1728
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:57,160
Speaker 1: Tracy or whatever, what's Tracy's name, Tyrone, you know he's

1729
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 1: a better player.

1730
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 9: I don't know.

1731
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 1: I know it's Tracy. I think. You know, Evan Singletary,

1732
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: you know, James Cook replaced Devin Singletary. That was a

1733
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: huge upgrade, you know for Buffalo. You know that that's

1734
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: the offenses they have been playing. Those guys aren't really

1735
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 1: capable of making your sort of weaknesses exposed.

1736
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 3: Whether there was no real bad football to take advantage

1737
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 3: of with the Bills, you know, that's and that's it's

1738
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 3: a great baseline when you're trying to play a fourth

1739
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 3: play schedule and win some games and there's going to

1740
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 3: be bad football.

1741
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 1: But but there was, you know, but you know, like

1742
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 1: it was terrible football from the Buffalo perspective. On that

1743
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,719
Speaker 1: sixty five yard touchdown. You can go back and watch

1744
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: aj Fanessa Like I've never played defensive line in my life,

1745
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: and I can tell you that he broke every rule

1746
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 1: of defensive line play backside defensive end, like gives ground.

1747
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,640
Speaker 1: It goes like three yards upfield, Like I don't know

1748
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: where you were going, but all you need to do

1749
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,240
Speaker 1: is stay where you are and make sure that that

1750
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: guy can't cut back. He should have cut back right

1751
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: into him. But did you see that the replayer, This

1752
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about, He like slams down into

1753
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 1: the pile, gives Henderson no resistance whatsoever. Like that's bad football.

1754
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,840
Speaker 1: In Trevion Henderson took advantage of it.

1755
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:10,200
Speaker 6: It was almost like a kickoff like the old way

1756
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 6: because like you, like you always when you talk about kickoff,

1757
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 6: you don't want guys in the same lane.

1758
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: That's right in your lane. And that's his job is

1759
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: being the backside guy. Don't let the guy come back. Yeah,

1760
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: cut back.

1761
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: Doug Hampshire wants to know. Do you think no splane

1762
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 2: wearing the green dot led to the disjointed defensive scheme.

1763
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: It could have been part of help, you know.

1764
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 3: I mean he's he's the key guy in the middle,

1765
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 3: and I mean another thing that you know, it was

1766
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 3: more sunshine and rainbows.

1767
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: But it's just you know, his presence.

1768
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: He's a fiery guy, like you know, it's is there

1769
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 3: a speech in him of all right, we need one

1770
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 3: stop here and maybe they respond.

1771
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1772
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I I just think in a game like this,

1773
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 3: missing him did not did not help matters at all.

1774
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 2: Cody writes in Bill's fans have really been backing McDermott

1775
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 2: after the Mike vrabel blame me the ref's narrative. While

1776
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: I feel Mike's comments have taken wildly out of context,

1777
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 2: Bill's fans backing McDermott and saying he would never blame

1778
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: the ref is great. I actually think the Bills should

1779
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: give him a lifetime coaching contract due to those facts.

1780
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 6: Uh just squally quickly on this plain thing that I have.

1781
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 6: I do want to say something about that. Uh it

1782
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 6: was playine Like a lot of Paul shows are kind

1783
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:17,879
Speaker 6: of like we're not giving them splaine.

1784
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: Like you know that's Fred.

1785
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,680
Speaker 6: You know that he's he's out, he's not a good

1786
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 6: enough player. But when every run is right up the

1787
01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 6: gut where you say that they didn't miss Spalaine is

1788
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 6: I think silly, but like, especially with the way that

1789
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 6: they ran the football on them, like that would literally

1790
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 6: be right at Robert Splaine. And to think that he's

1791
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 6: not a little bit more equipped to stop that, of

1792
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 6: course than Jack Gibbons or Christian Ellis, I think is

1793
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 6: just being short sighted a little bit.

1794
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: Uh.

1795
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 6: The Bills react fans reaction to Mike Rabel's comments about

1796
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 6: the refs. So I don't care about the fans. I

1797
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 6: say this all the time.

1798
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I don't.

1799
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't care about the fans.

1800
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 4: I don't.

1801
01:19:57,439 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 6: I like you, you be fan however you want to man.

1802
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 6: The Bills media has taken more exception to it than

1803
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 6: the fans, and it's like, why why are you care?

1804
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: Like they don't think our media would do this.

1805
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: It's gonna say, the Patriots media is the one who's

1806
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: bringing up the officiating. That's how do you think?

1807
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: Listen. I love Mike Rabel and I know where he

1808
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: was coming from. I agree with him, but he opened

1809
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 2: him up for this. He opened himself up.

1810
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 4: For sure, and whatever. He's a big guy, he can

1811
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:27,160
Speaker 4: handle it.

1812
01:20:27,240 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 6: But I just I'm surprised about how much of a

1813
01:20:31,439 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 6: story this has been turned into.

1814
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: It this is the soap opa.

1815
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that.

1816
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,919
Speaker 2: This is the this is the this is why football

1817
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 2: is great. You're playing the weekend and during the week

1818
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: it's all this crap.

1819
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 6: Well, I bet that that is part of what I'm

1820
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 6: talking about. Like people that cover the bills on their beat. Yeah,

1821
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 6: I don't know, Like.

1822
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 2: This, this is the drama. This is the soap op.

1823
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 4: I have zero time for that.

1824
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,519
Speaker 1: You know, like, if you're the media guy, you're supposed

1825
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: to be covering the game, like not like that the

1826
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: official way a long time. But I know when it's

1827
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: can I be like disappointed? Can I be disappointed by that?

1828
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1829
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: Like that, no one cares about actually covering anymore. Just

1830
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: the crying over Oh he's blaming the riffs, like just

1831
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 1: to me, Frere. He comes in and sits right where

1832
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: Mike is right now, and they're they're bombarding him with

1833
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: questions about the officiating, Like that's the best you can

1834
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: come up with. You blew a twenty one point leading

1835
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: You're asking why didn't get caugh holding, But like that

1836
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: was the best the media could come up with for questions. Again,

1837
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 1: I separate EI in your shows. The friends were asked

1838
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: on the press conference yesterday too.

1839
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 6: Well, because they were asked yesterday as a follow up

1840
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 6: to what he said on the radio.

1841
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: Fair that's fair. I think they would have been asked anyway.

1842
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 6: I just look at the the the radio side of

1843
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 6: it is a little different than like the reporter beat

1844
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 6: reporter side of it.

1845
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 1: I think it's all the same. Now, it's just all

1846
01:21:58,680 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 1: raw raw, rossis boom.

1847
01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 5: But do you.

1848
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 4: Understand what I'm saying.

1849
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 6: It's a different You got wrong, It's a different it's

1850
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 6: a different cap like, it's a different type of media.

1851
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: It should be right. On the other hand, just think

1852
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: the officials are incompetent in every game. I just don't

1853
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 1: think they favor your team with the other team.

1854
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,759
Speaker 6: But that's one thing to say that, which is true,

1855
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 6: But to then like the response to the Rabel stuff

1856
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 6: from Buffalo's.

1857
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: Media, has the response from the.

1858
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:33,160
Speaker 6: Get attacked Now, it's like I did with the Broncos.

1859
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 6: But this is just like you play that role, you're

1860
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 6: the band. It's just a little weird, bizarre, like we

1861
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 6: spent all day crying about it, and it's just like.

1862
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I think if Buffalo is crying

1863
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: about Rabel's reaction, that's weak. I agree with Evan on that,

1864
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 1: but like the whole thing, like you, I.

1865
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 2: Listen. I remember in the win game when we beat them,

1866
01:22:57,680 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 2: I don't know what was it, six nothing or whatever

1867
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: the score was, and everybody was all over McDermott and

1868
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 2: his reaction after the game.

1869
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it wasn't about the officials.

1870
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but he just just his reaction, you know.

1871
01:23:09,479 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: The call that And I know that, Fred, you didn't

1872
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: love the Carlton Davis PI where he tugged the shirt.

1873
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: Didn't really feel like there was much of a restriction.

1874
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 1: I agree with Fred. I thought it was a little

1875
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 1: tiki tag. I've been told and I didn't really see

1876
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: this live. People have told me that the flag came

1877
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 1: out so late because the guy was trying to get

1878
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: the flag out and had a hard time. That's why

1879
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 1: the flag came out as late as it. Because I

1880
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 1: was really bothered by the timing as well. You know,

1881
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 1: I was, you know, I don't know, you guys know,

1882
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: I don't usually I was like, that's ridiculous and I

1883
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: don't usually do that. Wait what So I didn't like

1884
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 1: that call. And I have no problem with coaching, whether

1885
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: it's McDermott or very abel, I have no problem. You

1886
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: didn't like that call. You you're a big boy, you

1887
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 1: can tell me you didn't like it. I don't like

1888
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: Harbaugh complaining about the Isaiah Likely thing the week prior that.

1889
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: It's very specific. What I didn't like what Mike did

1890
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 1: here with Ei was the Bills leave the league in

1891
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 1: holding calls and you think they would get at least

1892
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: one holding call during the course of the game. Well, what,

1893
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: what specifically are you talking about, Mike? Was there, like,

1894
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,080
Speaker 1: did Osiris Torrents tackle Corey Durden on the eleven yard

1895
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,759
Speaker 1: touchdown run and you think they should have been holding?

1896
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: Then say it? There they two holding calls a game.

1897
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: They got one, he said, they didn't get any. They did,

1898
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: and by the way, it was it was a rather

1899
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 1: important one that took away a go ahead touchdown. It

1900
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 1: was they just they just happened to score a touchdown

1901
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: on the next play, so you forget it. But they

1902
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: did get called for holding, and it was an important

1903
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: one and it was a legit call.

1904
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 6: Right, There were a couple, But there's a couple every

1905
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 6: single week in the trenches where you say this could

1906
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 6: have been a hold.

1907
01:24:43,400 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: You know, what my point is, like, hey, this play

1908
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: right here, they were holding. They held Christian Barmore in

1909
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: this play. They should have called holding on this as

1910
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: as opposed to.

1911
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 4: Seem sure he has sent that to the league?

1912
01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: Has I used Barbore because he has been outspoken. He

1913
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,280
Speaker 1: he actually talks to Evan a lot about it. But bro,

1914
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: don't tell them I'm getting held. I'm getting like if

1915
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 1: John Harbar is saying specifically, like this play right here,

1916
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: we we think that they missed one here, as opposed

1917
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: to just sort of the generic Well.

1918
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,799
Speaker 2: He wants to know, doesn't want to question a specific

1919
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: call because they'll get fined.

1920
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: He maybe maybe, but if you're going to get fined,

1921
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 1: you're criticizing the officials, that's what you're going to get

1922
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: fined for. So like I.

1923
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 2: Just just thought it was, you know, we couldn't figure

1924
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: it out, Like how isn't that right?

1925
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 1: Right? I just don't think it's all that out of

1926
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: the ordinary for a team that averages two holds a

1927
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 1: game to get called for one.

1928
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 4: I just don't understand.

1929
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 6: Think it's not like they were like why are you

1930
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 6: why that's baby talking?

1931
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:45,680
Speaker 1: Like why you.

1932
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:49,240
Speaker 6: Personally offended that? Verbel said that like I just baby talk.

1933
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: Sorry, if the Buffalo media has take has taken that

1934
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: as a crusade, that's baby.

1935
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,200
Speaker 2: I just created controversy. It's it's ratings and clicks. That's

1936
01:25:58,240 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 2: all it is.

1937
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: This isn't something which and this is unfortunately, that's what

1938
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: it's deteriorated to.

1939
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 3: I just hope they hear the voices that say Josh

1940
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,640
Speaker 3: Allen's awesome and he did Josh Allen things, and I

1941
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for him as a player.

1942
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: And the Patriots have to be better to slow down too.

1943
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 1: But they're really listening to New England than they're not

1944
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 1: getting a lot of bad They get it here on

1945
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 1: this show, but they don't get it a lot when

1946
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 1: they listen to the media around here.

1947
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: Russell and Florida speaking of the refs, just now turning in,

1948
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 2: What did you guys think of the PI and Marcus

1949
01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: Jones on the deep Ball? Seems like Jones clearly picked it.

1950
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 2: I don't think so, but might have gotten there a

1951
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 2: bit early. And the call to give Buffalo the reception

1952
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:34,879
Speaker 2: I think was ridiculous. Also, Friendz prayers were finally answered

1953
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 2: with the Mahomes injury. The Wannabe Dynasty falls anyway on

1954
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,800
Speaker 2: that play. I wasn't up in arms about that play.

1955
01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 2: And here's the way I saw it.

1956
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: The ball.

1957
01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 2: No one possessed the ball until it was on the ground.

1958
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 2: And at that point it's like fifty to fifty. You

1959
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 2: go with the offense on those calls. Now, forget about

1960
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: the flag, Like I'm not even talking about the.

1961
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: Flag, Simontan his catch time.

1962
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,880
Speaker 2: Catch goes to the offense. I don't think either player

1963
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 2: had the ball while they were falling down. I think

1964
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 2: it was being negotiated at that point with Fred.

1965
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 1: I think that play was properly officiated. It's it's a

1966
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: tough call. Yeah, I thought he got there early. I

1967
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:17,639
Speaker 1: thought he interfered, and I thought Shakir had the ball,

1968
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: and then Jones got it when they were on the ground. Yeah,

1969
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 1: that's how we ended up with it. I generally agree.

1970
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 3: I just I still when I went back and watched it,

1971
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 3: it looked closer than I realized.

1972
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: Very close in the ball too. Like I wouldn't say

1973
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 1: Shakir caught it, like I guess to your point, like

1974
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,840
Speaker 1: either one they both they both both had it. He

1975
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 1: took possession of it on the ground like he was

1976
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: fitty when Jones got the ball on the ground. I

1977
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 1: agree with Fred on the day, Yeah, no, I I

1978
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: it was.

1979
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: That's a tough one. Now, whether or not it was

1980
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 2: p I, I don't know, but at the end of

1981
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: the day, they called it a catch, so it doesn't

1982
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 2: matter whether it was.

1983
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: I just like, you know, I just like the way

1984
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones plays. Oh yeah, I just he's not He's

1985
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: not going to give you a thing.

1986
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,880
Speaker 6: That that play drove was from straight in to watch

1987
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 6: because they knew it was coming, Like they knew they

1988
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 6: were going to get that exact play call, and they

1989
01:28:06,880 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 6: had a check for it. They had it all like

1990
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 6: all perfectly covered, and Alan just throws a freaking dime

1991
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 6: to Shakir and it's like this like simultaneous catch thing

1992
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:18,000
Speaker 6: and was it wasn't it?

1993
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, I go, Shakir did not play

1994
01:28:21,080 --> 01:28:23,720
Speaker 1: that well by the way. He should have put his

1995
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: foot down and jump back into Marcus Jones. And then

1996
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 1: it's clear and obvious passing effects because Jones was was

1997
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:32,160
Speaker 1: out of position on the play and not really looking

1998
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:36,080
Speaker 1: at the time, and they kind of both drifted and

1999
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I think Shakiro was you know, I give Shakill some

2000
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: credit because instead of you know, being a baby and

2001
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 1: looking for a call, he was trying to make a

2002
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: play on the ball and trying to catch it. But

2003
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 1: I think he would have gotten both had he just

2004
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 1: fought back through the contact.

2005
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 4: Those are the ones, though, that drive you nuts.

2006
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 6: Because it's like, you you practiced this all week that

2007
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 6: they're in this situation, they're going to call him mesh,

2008
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:58,840
Speaker 6: and you're this is what you're going to get. This

2009
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 6: is how we're going to cover it. And they were

2010
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 6: right on it and they just made they made the play.

2011
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Norman Daytona Beach writes in about the Buffalo media,

2012
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 2: what else would you expect from a four time Super

2013
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 2: Bowl loser?

2014
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 6: You're here, I'm I'm an ally of Bill's Mafia too,

2015
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 6: So I know I know that this is going to

2016
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:24,600
Speaker 6: come off as a bad thing for me to say no,

2017
01:29:24,680 --> 01:29:31,240
Speaker 6: But I have friends in the mafia and and uh

2018
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,599
Speaker 6: and and I like them for the most part.

2019
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 4: I just this particular one.

2020
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 6: I was like, this is really like this has really

2021
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 6: gotten under your skin that he said that, Like.

2022
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,000
Speaker 3: I saw a stupid internet thing that made me just

2023
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 3: summed up the Internet and social media for me. It

2024
01:29:46,600 --> 01:29:48,920
Speaker 3: was like a Bill's fan going to Patriots fans with

2025
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 3: like an AI of Josh Allen holding a Super Bowl

2026
01:29:52,040 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 3: trophy and it's like, Drake may will never know what

2027
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 3: this is like what.

2028
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: Like Josh Allen doesn't know what it's like? Like, what

2029
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: are you doing? That's what we've lost The play Jackie

2030
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 2: and Abba about cold weather clothing and Brady, uh, he said.

2031
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 2: Brady once said that his freshman roommate at Michigan taught

2032
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: him all about how to dress for the cold there.

2033
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: He said, there is no such thing as bad weather

2034
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 2: in Michigan. There is only bad clothing. Jacques Cousteau, you go,

2035
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 2: I know, Ellen Wisconsin said. Drake actually talked about the

2036
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,080
Speaker 2: sleeve thing on one of Paul's shows yesterday. He did

2037
01:30:24,120 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 2: say he's figuring it out, but mentioned he prefers sleeveless

2038
01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:30,000
Speaker 2: because that's how he's used to practicing. Well maybe he

2039
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:33,040
Speaker 2: in the cold weather he should practice differently anyway, something

2040
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:36,960
Speaker 2: to watch, Yeah, evolving Drake, good stuff, all right, back

2041
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 2: to the phones. One eight, what's the number? Eight? Five

2042
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 2: five past five hundred? There you go, that's the one.

2043
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 9: Uh.

2044
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 3: Paul's like, come on, the number of nunumbers are hard?

2045
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 5: Five? Wait?

2046
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: Two ninety eight O three nine. Yeah, the old number.

2047
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 2: That was the old number. You get his number, you give,

2048
01:30:54,640 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 2: don't it some lady in Wisconsin?

2049
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's the number. I think it's just

2050
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: the eight hundred number now eight five five, Vinny, Hey

2051
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:04,720
Speaker 1: you hear me?

2052
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 16: Okay, yeah, all right, Yeah, I went to the game

2053
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:09,479
Speaker 16: on us someday.

2054
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 1: Sorry.

2055
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 16: It was just a victory just to get there. It was,

2056
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 16: you know, what a fun first half. You know, I

2057
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 16: was really loving watching Mndre Stevenson get those tough yards

2058
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 16: and Trayvon Henderson. And I guess you know, when I

2059
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:25,680
Speaker 16: think about the second half, yeah, I'm thinking it's a

2060
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:29,280
Speaker 16: little unfortunate. Defense wasn't able to hold the Bills to

2061
01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 16: a field goal once or twice, but on the offensive side,

2062
01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 16: I'm just curious, And I'm sorry if you guys cover

2063
01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 16: this earn the show coming in late But and I

2064
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 16: love Josh McDaniels, but do we have any idea of

2065
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:44,760
Speaker 16: what he might have been seeing or why he was

2066
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 16: approaching the second half, because I feel like we should

2067
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 16: have been running the ball more and controlling the clock

2068
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 16: and keeping Josh Allen off the field, you know, I mean, oh,

2069
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 16: in all they put up thirty one points, and you know,

2070
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,040
Speaker 16: we saw a lot of interest here with the defense

2071
01:32:01,080 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 16: to give up the touchdown on the opening drive, and

2072
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 16: this was a little bit different. And I'm just sort

2073
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 16: of wondering if.

2074
01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 20: You guys have any insight as to what.

2075
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,000
Speaker 16: Josh McDaniels was sticking in terms of how he pushed

2076
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 16: the second half.

2077
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 4: I'm sure he'll be asked about it.

2078
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: That's money.

2079
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 6: I mean, we haven't spoken to him since the game,

2080
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 6: so I'm sure that'll be a question for him tomorrow.

2081
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,840
Speaker 6: I The one thing I will say, and we talked

2082
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 6: a little bit about it off air, is like, sometimes

2083
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:26,479
Speaker 6: there's two plays called in the huddle, and the quarterback

2084
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 6: checks in and out of the play based off of

2085
01:32:28,840 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 6: the coverage or what the defense is showing him. So

2086
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 6: it's possible that they might have had a few more

2087
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 6: runs like called technically that then we're checked out of

2088
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 6: into passes. And I'm not saying that that's anybody's fault.

2089
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 6: It's just sometimes, you know, when you get these questions,

2090
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 6: you hear coaches say that a lot. Well, you know,

2091
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 6: they were giving us this, so we checked into a

2092
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 6: pass on you know, three or four times, and that

2093
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,240
Speaker 6: exkews the numbers or maybe they were you know, RPOs

2094
01:32:54,240 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 6: in there and they converted to throws instead of runs

2095
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,799
Speaker 6: or vice versa. You know, there's all these certain different minutia.

2096
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 6: But it's a fair question that I'm sure he'll get

2097
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 6: asked about.

2098
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 1: It is it is.

2099
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to Canada. Tony's up there. Hey Tony, Hey guys.

2100
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 21: That was a hard loss to take on Sunday. But

2101
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 21: a couple of things. Yeah, I agree. Actually, I was

2102
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 21: surprised that when we were at the last drive there

2103
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 21: that we didn't have at least one running play when

2104
01:33:23,240 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 21: it was third and five and then fourth and five.

2105
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 21: But like Alex said, I guess things can change at

2106
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,280
Speaker 21: the line of scrimmage. I think we have to and

2107
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 21: you guys tell me. I think we have to win

2108
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 21: out the next three games to finish in the AFC,

2109
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 21: to win the championship for the AFC East. So that's

2110
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 21: all I wanted to say. And listen to the rest show.

2111
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: Thanks, okay, thanks any any Thomas No, and I would

2112
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:53,720
Speaker 1: just say, like the last drive third and five is

2113
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: you know, no timeouts left and you're on your own

2114
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 1: twenty five yard line down four points. I don't think

2115
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 1: you can afford to run ball for six yards to

2116
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: try to get a first down. Right, that's not the

2117
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: twenty five seconds or so that that's going to take

2118
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:08,120
Speaker 1: is not worth the first down?

2119
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 2: Important question for Paul, says Anthony. During our win streak,

2120
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 2: quite a few people wrote in to say we aren't

2121
01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 2: playing our best and we need to be more consistent.

2122
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 2: Paul said that he thinks we are playing as good

2123
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 2: as we can and it was hard to argue. Now

2124
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 2: after Sunday's game, I have a question. They scored thirty

2125
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 2: one points all on offense, no turnovers, no special teams,

2126
01:34:28,680 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 2: but it was very clear they didn't play their best ball,

2127
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,880
Speaker 2: particularly in the second half. My question is is it

2128
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 2: fair to say we didn't play our best game even

2129
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 2: though we put up thirty one, which was one of

2130
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 2: the higher scores in weeks.

2131
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: I would say no. I would say that I think

2132
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: people are expecting perfection from a team that is a

2133
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: little bit flawed. You're well ahead of schedule, like you

2134
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 1: can't score. This is not to be confused with like

2135
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner's rams, like they're just going to score. They're

2136
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 1: going to score every time they get the ball. They

2137
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: scored thirty one points. That's a lot, and he's right,

2138
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 1: there were no defensive points in there that you know,

2139
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: No Marcus Jones return, no returns, no defensive scores. I

2140
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,799
Speaker 1: don't know what you're expecting from mac hollins in Tomario

2141
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 1: Douglas and Stefan di like. I don't know if you

2142
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: can ask for much more than you got on Sunday. Now,

2143
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: they didn't finish the game. That's disappointing. We talked about

2144
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 1: it the whole first hour of the show, all the

2145
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 1: different things that were disappointing, but the very first thing

2146
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 1: that Evan said, I would wholeheartedly agree with. You're as

2147
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: good as the teams that you're playing against now, but

2148
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: don't confuse that to be that you were better than

2149
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: everybody and that you can just roll and score sixty

2150
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: because you're that good. They played pretty well for large

2151
01:35:50,160 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 1: stretches of the game, just not well enough. The other

2152
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 1: team's pretty good too. Now do you realize that that's

2153
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: three games that they played against teams with winning records

2154
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,479
Speaker 1: one and two. That's I mean, you're playing as well

2155
01:36:04,520 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: as you can play. I don't think that they underachieved Sunday.

2156
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I this is probably a better topic

2157
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 6: for you know, if they lose in the playoffs.

2158
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:17,680
Speaker 4: But I think your point about this might be the ceiling.

2159
01:36:18,040 --> 01:36:22,479
Speaker 6: Of this roster, because they might be an offseason away

2160
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 6: from really having the talent to hang forty one points

2161
01:36:26,080 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 6: on the board against Buffalo in a in a big

2162
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 6: in a big game. You know, we talk a lot

2163
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 6: about the second half offense, and the numbers aren't good

2164
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 6: in the second half, But is it possible that the

2165
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 6: reason that they can't sustain offense into the second half

2166
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 6: is because they just don't quite have the talent yet

2167
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,640
Speaker 6: to do that. But again, you know, let's see how

2168
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 6: it goes in the playoffs. Like maybe that that does

2169
01:36:49,439 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 6: get corrected for the playoffs. But if we go into

2170
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:53,960
Speaker 6: the offseason and they let's say, you know, they lose

2171
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 6: in the playoffs, we're probably gonna say, you know, they

2172
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:58,560
Speaker 6: they just didn't.

2173
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 1: Quite have just real yet, just not there yet, and

2174
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:04,680
Speaker 1: they could win, like they could have won the game Sunday, right, Oh,

2175
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:06,679
Speaker 1: that's why I want to slink. Like, let's just say,

2176
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: for argument's sake, that they get that run from from

2177
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: Henderson and they go up thirty one to twenty eight,

2178
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 1: and then the defense holds it out, you win thirty

2179
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:17,760
Speaker 1: one twenty eighth, So you're suddenly good enough now, like

2180
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: as opposed to not not. Like, if you're Buffalo, I

2181
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:23,720
Speaker 1: know we you know, we're very patriot centric and we

2182
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,640
Speaker 1: should be. But if you're Buffalo, you're looking at that

2183
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 1: game in a little bit of a different way. You're

2184
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:30,080
Speaker 1: looking at it and say, Jesus tell you, if we

2185
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 1: can just eliminate these big plays, we're better than them.

2186
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: We could have gotten separation from them, but we allow

2187
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:38,920
Speaker 1: a fifty something yard running, a sixty something yard run,

2188
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:43,600
Speaker 1: and that allowed them to maintain their their lead. Like,

2189
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:45,680
Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo, you're looking at we just got to

2190
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:47,960
Speaker 1: button it up and make sure that we don't give

2191
01:37:48,000 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: them easy touchdowns, you know what I mean? Like they

2192
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: didn't play well either, Yeah on defense, I mean NA

2193
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 1: allowed thirty one points. Yeah.

2194
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,720
Speaker 2: John writes in the Hypocrisy of the Refs need to

2195
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 2: be studied the words of the Great Jim Murray, The

2196
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 2: refs need to be put in jail, jailed to.

2197
01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 1: Jail.

2198
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 2: The no PI call for Hollands and the PI call

2199
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 2: against Marcus Jones has proof someone in Vegas made a

2200
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 2: phone call. There was substantially more interruption on the Drake

2201
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 2: May interception intended to Holland's than the call against Jones

2202
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,599
Speaker 2: Vus Shakir, two game changing decisions by the reps. If

2203
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 2: either one went the other way, the Patris would have

2204
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 2: held the lead.

2205
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 4: Well, I I would just like the Marcus Jones won.

2206
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 4: I agree.

2207
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 6: I didn't think it was DPI. But it was a

2208
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,240
Speaker 6: catch for Shakill rule to the catch, so like it's

2209
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,959
Speaker 6: gonna be a thirty seven yard play for Shakiir regardless

2210
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:36,759
Speaker 6: of if it's a penalty.

2211
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Y So that one, everybody's convinced there was an interception.

2212
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:41,920
Speaker 1: So that's where you're that's where you're wrong, YEF.

2213
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 2: But but but you'd have to overturn two things. Now,

2214
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 2: One it wasn't a penalty, and two it wasn't a

2215
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: catch by.

2216
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:50,519
Speaker 1: I'm not the Bills. I'm not saying never.

2217
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 6: The simultaneous catch thing happens like more frequently than.

2218
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,120
Speaker 1: You think often, and it all that's the rule. It

2219
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: just happened the previous week with Alan Rodgers.

2220
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 6: It's tie goes to the runner like it like in baseball,

2221
01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,240
Speaker 6: Like it's that's the rule. So that rule that ball

2222
01:39:06,360 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 6: is standing as a catch for Shakira.

2223
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:09,479
Speaker 4: That one's interfer.

2224
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,679
Speaker 2: The Davis one is the one that I was upset about.

2225
01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:14,680
Speaker 1: So can I just say one thing too, you know,

2226
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: like with the officiating thing, which I hate officials. You

2227
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: guys know that. So first let's go to the first

2228
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 1: drive of the game for both teams. There's a thirty

2229
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:28,040
Speaker 1: yard pass down the sideline the Kaishan Boodie that gene seratory. Evidently,

2230
01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:30,880
Speaker 1: and you were listening to the broadcast, Fred said that

2231
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,120
Speaker 1: if this has gone to replay, it would have gotten overturned.

2232
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:35,720
Speaker 1: There's no expedited replay for some reason on this one.

2233
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,880
Speaker 1: So obviously the officials ruin the take against the Bills

2234
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 1: because on the next drive, Brandon Cooks makes a catch

2235
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,559
Speaker 1: that he bobbles on the sideline and originally is called

2236
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: the catch. Bills are getting ready to snap the ball

2237
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 1: and no, no, no expedite to replay. The play has

2238
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:53,759
Speaker 1: been ruled incomplete. So one play has an expertite to replay,

2239
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:57,160
Speaker 1: no no challenge necessary. Another play no expertite to replay,

2240
01:39:57,280 --> 01:39:59,880
Speaker 1: and the Bills needed to challenge didn't get a che

2241
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:03,000
Speaker 1: answer to it because the Patriots wisely snapped the ball.

2242
01:40:03,280 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Is that like is that an you know, hypocrisy or

2243
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:10,759
Speaker 1: is that just in competence? Right? John Hussey's involved, big shock.

2244
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean, there was no control in the game. How

2245
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: many times do we hear from John Hussey?

2246
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 4: He's not a great Please.

2247
01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: Reset the game clock to twenty three seconds. No, there's

2248
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: no runoff, Like, sorry for the confusion. We got it right,

2249
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: you did, We got it right though. Oh I feel

2250
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 1: much better now, John, you got it right.

2251
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,640
Speaker 4: And the replay assist is kind of broken too, you

2252
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

2253
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 6: Every week it's like, wait, are you sure that happened

2254
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 6: to be watching that play?

2255
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,960
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I mean there was a first down that

2256
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 1: the Bills ran for and they called it a first

2257
01:40:40,040 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: down in the field all of a sudden, No, no, no,

2258
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: the ball has been respotted. I expected a replay. It's

2259
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:45,479
Speaker 1: actually short of the line the game, So now the

2260
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Bill's got to run a quarterback sneak to get the

2261
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,840
Speaker 1: first down. Like, there's all kinds of things that you

2262
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 1: could look at. It's possible impropriety. I don't think it's impropriety.

2263
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 1: I think it's incompetence.

2264
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 2: Max and Santa Barbara just a few thoughts. One seeing

2265
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 2: Nick Daniels and Woodiams. It looks to me like they

2266
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 2: have a more aggressive set of play calls. Two, Mike

2267
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,360
Speaker 2: and Company have to improve this defense, especially the secondary.

2268
01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:09,759
Speaker 1: Three.

2269
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 2: If Philip Rivers can come out of retirement after five years,

2270
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 2: is two outrageous to call Gronk and offer him five

2271
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 2: hundred thousand or more. Let him work out for two

2272
01:41:17,640 --> 01:41:19,760
Speaker 2: or three weeks, Maybe have him play some snaps in

2273
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,360
Speaker 2: game seventeen and have him ready for the playoffs. All

2274
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 2: he can say is no. The red zone offense would

2275
01:41:25,160 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 2: certainly be upgraded anyway. Let's not let the success of

2276
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 2: the past spoil things. Now. We are way ahead of

2277
01:41:30,360 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 2: schedule on this rebuild. Love the show since three party on.

2278
01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 1: Gronk officially retired though, And I don't think.

2279
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:38,839
Speaker 2: You know it's come out of retirement.

2280
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Philip Rivers retire press conference with the Chargers.

2281
01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he literally had We'll.

2282
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 1: Get more of that, I'm sure tomorrow. But he did

2283
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: all right. I mean he didn't light it up then

2284
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: a lot of shot short.

2285
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:56,680
Speaker 3: I didn't want the Clo win, but he won me

2286
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 3: over just watching him play. I was like, I want

2287
01:41:58,240 --> 01:41:58,960
Speaker 3: to see Philip Rivers.

2288
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: No, he didn't do like anything special. You know a

2289
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 1: lot of little short throws. But you know, then the

2290
01:42:04,640 --> 01:42:06,880
Speaker 1: Colts defense obviously played a really good game and kept

2291
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 1: him in it. But he did all right, he did.

2292
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't know what I was expecting because

2293
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,800
Speaker 1: I just I have have a take here too, like

2294
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,439
Speaker 1: have you heard a lot of this, Like what an

2295
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 1: indictment on the NFL and the lack of being able

2296
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: to develop quarterbacks? And I'm like, how many quarterbacks should

2297
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 1: the Colts be expected to have? Like they're on the

2298
01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:28,559
Speaker 1: fourth quarterback, Like they can't just take someone else's backup

2299
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:31,120
Speaker 1: and plug him in. Would that be a better option? Like,

2300
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:33,840
Speaker 1: uld be a better option?

2301
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:36,040
Speaker 4: Riley Leonard would have played if he was healthy?

2302
01:42:36,120 --> 01:42:36,200
Speaker 16: Ye?

2303
01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 1: Right?

2304
01:42:36,920 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 4: Or Anthony Richardson for.

2305
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: That, if Anthony Richardson didn't you know, have that mishap

2306
01:42:40,760 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: with the thing that hit him in the face, Yeah,

2307
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: he'd have been the backup quarterback. We wouldn't be talking

2308
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: about this. But you can't just take someone else's backup

2309
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:52,559
Speaker 1: and play him. Where else were they to be expected

2310
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 1: to get a guy off the street that would know

2311
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: the offense and be able to play in a game.

2312
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,200
Speaker 1: And at that when you're still in the playoff. To me,

2313
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:02,120
Speaker 1: you're very much. I look at this is like an

2314
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 1: embarrassment of the NFL and an indictment on their abilion.

2315
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 1: That's widespread. That's I guess I'm in the minority on that.

2316
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 1: But I don't know what else. I don't know what

2317
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 1: a better option was, especially with the emergency quarterback role.

2318
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,639
Speaker 6: Now, a lot of teams like the like the Patriots

2319
01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 6: are carrying three on the active roster because you can

2320
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:24,439
Speaker 6: make one inactive, like they have been with Tommy DeVito.

2321
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:27,719
Speaker 6: So there actually is even fewer quarterbacks on practice squads

2322
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 6: at the moment because a lot of teams are carrying

2323
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 6: three on the fifty three man roster, not two in.

2324
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: Well, even if there was like a Bailey Zappi on

2325
01:43:36,160 --> 01:43:38,000
Speaker 1: someone's practice squad, and I don't know if he's on

2326
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland's practice squad or acts so, but let's just say

2327
01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:44,160
Speaker 1: for arguments sake, he was on the practice squad. Yeah,

2328
01:43:44,200 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 1: you can sign a guy like that off a practice

2329
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 1: squad and bring him in. Is that a better option

2330
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:53,960
Speaker 1: a guy who? I mean, if you have a guy

2331
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,439
Speaker 1: that maybe spent some time with Shane steiken H and

2332
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:58,040
Speaker 1: he's on a practice squad, then I could make an

2333
01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 1: argument that's a better option. But unless you get give

2334
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 1: me an example of that, I just don't I think

2335
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: look at this as an embarrassment. No, I almost think

2336
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 1: the opposite is true.

2337
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 3: I think I mean, I if you go back to

2338
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,240
Speaker 3: the end of Brady's career, that felt like there was

2339
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 3: no quarterback coming out, no quarterbacks developing.

2340
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:16,040
Speaker 1: But I feel like it's gotten better. Quarter the league

2341
01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: pretty good spot. It is always going to be hard.

2342
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 1: But thirty two, if you took the thirty two, how

2343
01:44:21,000 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: many are really good? I think, how many guys are

2344
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 1: we looking at in the league right now that are

2345
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 1: that are reasonably good? You know Trevor Lawrence and we

2346
01:44:28,960 --> 01:44:30,120
Speaker 1: think they stink.

2347
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 6: He's on the practice squad in Cleveland, by Zappi, because

2348
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 6: they have like seventeen quarterbacks, right, so.

2349
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:37,360
Speaker 1: If he but if he was on, if he had

2350
01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:39,679
Speaker 1: some experience with stich and you can make an argument

2351
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 1: for that something like that, But like, what would you

2352
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,519
Speaker 1: rather have if you were a cult span Philip Rivers

2353
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,599
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi, Yeah, what's the difference.

2354
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 4: You think Drew's got a few in them if they

2355
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 4: needed to.

2356
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,400
Speaker 1: They tried to get him a couple of Jacksonville. This

2357
01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 1: is a while ago now and he was already He's like.

2358
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,840
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, jerem I says I saw that.

2359
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:04,840
Speaker 2: Andrew Callahan said that the Patriots hardly ran any play action,

2360
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,960
Speaker 2: which seems really surprising considering that we had such success

2361
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 2: running the ball in the first half. Is there any

2362
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 2: reason why we moved away from it, especially with Drake

2363
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 2: struggling throughout the game?

2364
01:45:14,680 --> 01:45:18,360
Speaker 6: They ran three play action dropacks, which is low. But

2365
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 6: when you play you know, certain defenses, play action works

2366
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 6: better against. Normally, when you play zone defenses, you know,

2367
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:28,720
Speaker 6: you like to run play action because those players are

2368
01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 6: they dropping into coverage or are they coming up to

2369
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:32,840
Speaker 6: stop the run. But when you play you know, a

2370
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,040
Speaker 6: team that plays a lot of man to man coverage,

2371
01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:38,519
Speaker 6: it's not it doesn't have that same like effect on

2372
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:41,000
Speaker 6: the defense because it's just I have this guy, you know,

2373
01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 6: and there's less run responsibilities for those players. So there

2374
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 6: was probably something like that going on with Buffalo as

2375
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,559
Speaker 6: to what they were seeing from what they were doing

2376
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:53,920
Speaker 6: that they didn't feel like play action was going to work.

2377
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 6: I do also kind of feel like people just like

2378
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:59,240
Speaker 6: use play action as like, well, if nothing's working, just

2379
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 6: run play act like it's just like, you know, kind.

2380
01:46:02,439 --> 01:46:06,320
Speaker 1: Of whatever their code, whatever they did, and it doesn't work.

2381
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 1: It was wrong and that and I get it. That's

2382
01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 1: what comes. That's part of the terror, you know. Josh

2383
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 1: mcden is a big boy. That's part of the offensive

2384
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 1: coordinated territory.

2385
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 6: But they were getting a decent amount of man coverage, uh,

2386
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 6: you know from Buffalo. And there's a dissertation somewhere on

2387
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:24,679
Speaker 6: the Internet of Bill Belichick talking about why you don't

2388
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 6: call play action as often against man coverage.

2389
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,200
Speaker 4: That's who I learned it from.

2390
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:30,960
Speaker 1: So I'll find it.

2391
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:32,720
Speaker 3: Something else is gonna bite on the running back other

2392
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,280
Speaker 3: than the guy who's got them right, Like right, I

2393
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:36,600
Speaker 3: mean the safeties, aren't you know.

2394
01:46:36,760 --> 01:46:41,640
Speaker 2: No one's paying attention, right, Chris writes, Uh, sends me

2395
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 2: a picture that's going around and read it that. He says,

2396
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 2: Uh proves that Marcus Jones caught the ball. I'm looking

2397
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:50,920
Speaker 2: at the picture and all that.

2398
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't care didn't.

2399
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:53,240
Speaker 2: That's all it proved.

2400
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,080
Speaker 1: They proves that both guys have the hands on the ball.

2401
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 2: Well, Shakira looks like he has his hands on Marcus Jones,

2402
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 2: but to me, it's still no either one of them

2403
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:02,280
Speaker 2: has possession.

2404
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,560
Speaker 6: I think our fan base is smart enough to not

2405
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 6: fall into screenshot.

2406
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:10,639
Speaker 1: I love screenshots, but it looks like that's the ball.

2407
01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 2: That's his elbow. But no, it's in the part. It's

2408
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:14,840
Speaker 2: somewhere in there.

2409
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 1: But who has it exactly?

2410
01:47:17,120 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 2: That's my point.

2411
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,679
Speaker 1: I think both of them do. I think Marcus Jones

2412
01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:21,280
Speaker 1: had his hands on the ball. I'm not saying Jones

2413
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 1: didn't have the ball, but you guys are shot. If

2414
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:26,760
Speaker 1: it's dual possession, it goes to the screen.

2415
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 4: Can't you can ever do screenshots that's not It doesn't My.

2416
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 1: Favorite screenshots on holds, those are my favorites. Fred used

2417
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 1: to send those to me. All the divester he's wide open,

2418
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: like with no context. Quarterbacks on the on the right

2419
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 1: sideline and the receivers all by himself on the left

2420
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: side line. Throw it to him.

2421
01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 2: He's opiate, but I like Reddit me too. Let's go

2422
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:54,240
Speaker 2: to Charles in North Carolina. What's up, Charles?

2423
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 22: It was one on folks, first time caller, a long

2424
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:58,080
Speaker 22: time listener.

2425
01:47:58,360 --> 01:48:02,120
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, so I appreciate you appreciate it for me.

2426
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 22: Quick question. I've been on hold for a couple of minutes.

2427
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,640
Speaker 22: I kind of forgot Okay, Yeah, I know we run

2428
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:10,679
Speaker 22: a buff fight kind of offense and Drake may find

2429
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:13,000
Speaker 22: is the open guy and I'm happy with definitely got

2430
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:14,519
Speaker 22: a lot of players on the team, especially in the

2431
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 22: wide receiver room. But what do you guys think about

2432
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:19,360
Speaker 22: maybe trying to get stuff on Digs a little more involved,

2433
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:21,479
Speaker 22: not trying to force feed him, but you know, maybe

2434
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 22: say he's our best playmaker, see if he can start

2435
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 22: making some more plays for us. And another question is

2436
01:48:26,439 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 22: how kind of concerned are you guys with Baltimore's run

2437
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 22: game with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson, with Milton Williams

2438
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:35,120
Speaker 22: being out. I know, Congress Tonkin came back and he

2439
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,719
Speaker 22: kind of helped, but I feel like Milton williams presence

2440
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,120
Speaker 22: in the middle is still being missed. And then we

2441
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 22: know got Dvaan a Chan and Breese Hall coming up

2442
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 22: in the last three weeks. So how do you guys

2443
01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:45,720
Speaker 22: feel about our ability to still be able to stop

2444
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 22: the run coming up here in the next few weeks.

2445
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm worried about that, Charles. I mean, you know,

2446
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: Conda came back, but it didn't look good.

2447
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 4: Major concern.

2448
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it didn't look specially this week Yeah.

2449
01:48:55,240 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 6: So Baltimore has been had other issues on their roster.

2450
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:00,400
Speaker 6: Their run game is as good as always.

2451
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:00,680
Speaker 1: Now.

2452
01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 2: I've always been under the belief that any NFL team,

2453
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 2: if they really sell out, can stop the run to

2454
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 2: a degree if they but what do you giving up?

2455
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 2: What are you sacrificing goal line? And can you give

2456
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,120
Speaker 2: that up? Can you can you overcome what you're sacrificing

2457
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 2: by selling out against the run?

2458
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 6: There was definitely some times in this game where they

2459
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,320
Speaker 6: were kind of running like four or even just like

2460
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:26,800
Speaker 6: lighter five man fronts where I thought to myself, like,

2461
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 6: is this really that Buffalo team where like you're so

2462
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 6: afraid of Alan in the passing game that you know

2463
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 6: you're trying to stop the run out of light boxes

2464
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 6: or you're trying you're running four man fronts instead of

2465
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,680
Speaker 6: putting more guys on the line of scrimmage. I just

2466
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 6: don't know if that is where Buffalo is at, Like

2467
01:49:45,280 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 6: Buffalo right now, their best player besides Allen is James

2468
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:50,439
Speaker 6: Cook and it's not particularly close.

2469
01:49:50,560 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I don't know.

2470
01:49:52,400 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 6: If you play them a third time, you do wonder if, like,

2471
01:49:55,800 --> 01:49:57,320
Speaker 6: can you get a little bit bigger on the line

2472
01:49:57,360 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. Can you put some more beef on the

2473
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 6: line and maybe try to stop the run a little

2474
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 6: bit more that way. But every time you talk to players,

2475
01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 6: not you know, nerds like me that and you ask

2476
01:50:07,880 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 6: them about stopping the run, the first thing that they

2477
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,760
Speaker 6: say is that it's a mentality. It's a want to,

2478
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 6: it's a mentality. It's not They don't talk x's and o's,

2479
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 6: they don't talk technique. Even they talk about you need

2480
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:23,040
Speaker 6: to go into the game and say not today, like

2481
01:50:23,120 --> 01:50:25,720
Speaker 6: we're not gonna get run on. And that's what the

2482
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 6: Patriots are gonna have to do on Sunday night because

2483
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 6: there Jimmy's and Joe's ain't gonna get any better.

2484
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:30,799
Speaker 4: Like it's gonna be this group.

2485
01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:34,000
Speaker 2: Right Steven and Fort drum My wife and I are

2486
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:36,840
Speaker 2: active duty Army. Thank you for your service. And we

2487
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 2: met in college at Norwich, but she and her family

2488
01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:42,240
Speaker 2: are from Buffalo and our huge Bills fans. We've been

2489
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 2: together for six years now and this time of year

2490
01:50:44,680 --> 01:50:47,640
Speaker 2: has always been contentious, as my in laws described me

2491
01:50:47,760 --> 01:50:51,600
Speaker 2: as insufferable to the extended family. We recently bought a

2492
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,760
Speaker 2: house and I have to say the worst part about

2493
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 2: Sunday's loss isn't the twenty one point blown lead, but

2494
01:50:57,439 --> 01:50:59,280
Speaker 2: the fact that I can't bitch about it in my

2495
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:03,599
Speaker 2: own house all jokes aside by being constantly behind enemy lines.

2496
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:07,719
Speaker 2: I can confidently report that the Bills fans are scared

2497
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,559
Speaker 2: of the Patriots. For Buffalo, it's super Bowl or bust

2498
01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 2: this year. Anything less is a complete choke and a

2499
01:51:13,120 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 2: humiliation for New England. At worst, we are the perfect

2500
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:19,559
Speaker 2: Buffalo spoiler team, and at best we win a seventh ring.

2501
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:22,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I'd be feeling if I was a

2502
01:51:22,760 --> 01:51:24,759
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills fan, I'd feel the same kind of pressure

2503
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 3: I felt when you know, Brady and Belichick were in

2504
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 3: their prime and it was just that's what it was about.

2505
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 3: And when you see a year lineup like this where

2506
01:51:31,760 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 3: your boogeyman is out of the way, Now, what excuse

2507
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:35,360
Speaker 3: do you have.

2508
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't feel like that because I feel like they

2509
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: have a guy that they didn't have in all those years.

2510
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,639
Speaker 1: They would go to the gunfight with not even a knife.

2511
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: Now it's a gunfight. They like they can win a

2512
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: game like they did Sunday. They couldn't win that game

2513
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:49,799
Speaker 1: against Peedy.

2514
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 6: That is how they win games. That's what I'm saying

2515
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:53,920
Speaker 6: that this descriptive Sunday is how.

2516
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 4: They've won all of their games.

2517
01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: Well, if I was Buffalo, that's how I would feel like, I, Okay, yeah,

2518
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:00,960
Speaker 1: he's good, He's really good. Think that Drake May is

2519
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,680
Speaker 1: going to be excellent. I have a guy who's can

2520
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:05,719
Speaker 1: match him and be better than him. I do agree

2521
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 1: they didn't have that. They didn't have that in the

2522
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: Brady era.

2523
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:08,360
Speaker 16: I do.

2524
01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:10,920
Speaker 4: Do you think they're feeling some pressure?

2525
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:11,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

2526
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 3: Mean the pressure is no ma homes Yeah no, no, yeah,

2527
01:52:15,920 --> 01:52:17,600
Speaker 3: that's the point I was trying to make sure. Yeah, no,

2528
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 3: that was the point. And it's going to make a

2529
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 3: point about the Patriots. I was just saying, we Buffalo

2530
01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,599
Speaker 3: Patriots out of it. Just look at Buffalo. What's stopped them?

2531
01:52:24,680 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 3: Like now, there's no chance.

2532
01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 1: I I agree with you on that. I'm just I'm

2533
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 1: just talking about the emailer with we're going to do

2534
01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 1: that again. Wasn't expecting like like we did, like we

2535
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 1: did on our broadcast it, Yeah, we're going.

2536
01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:35,680
Speaker 22: To do it.

2537
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:36,160
Speaker 1: That was good.

2538
01:52:36,720 --> 01:52:40,439
Speaker 6: I used the twenty four Celtics comparison I think last

2539
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 6: week about like the Celtics when they won the title.

2540
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 4: The Seas like parted for them in the in the

2541
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 4: in the you know.

2542
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 6: That Janni's got heart, everybody got hurt or got knocked

2543
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:52,559
Speaker 6: out by another team or something like that, and they

2544
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 6: like had this easy, easy path.

2545
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Buffalo is going to have a cake walk.

2546
01:52:57,200 --> 01:52:58,439
Speaker 1: It's not going to be an easy path.

2547
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,519
Speaker 6: But at the same of time, like they are the

2548
01:53:01,240 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 6: They are the best team on paper and the team

2549
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 6: that has the best quarterback, so they they should win.

2550
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:08,639
Speaker 1: They should.

2551
01:53:08,640 --> 01:53:11,280
Speaker 2: You're a betting person and you had a really good

2552
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 2: odds for Buffalo against the field to win to get

2553
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, would you take that bet? Sure,

2554
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 2: the field.

2555
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:20,240
Speaker 1: I would take the field because they're going to be

2556
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:23,320
Speaker 1: on the road, because they're gonna win three road games

2557
01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:26,120
Speaker 1: because they choke. The bigger thing is that they go

2558
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: now to your point, maybe that'll somehow weirdly alleviate the

2559
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 1: pressure a little bit. Yeah, you know, we got to

2560
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,760
Speaker 1: run three road games for them. I think that it's

2561
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 1: important that they finish well and slide up to the

2562
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:42,720
Speaker 1: five spot, which would give them a chance to you know,

2563
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 1: a decent chance to avoid Denver because then if six

2564
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 1: or seven can win in that game, at six seven,

2565
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:53,200
Speaker 1: they they can possibly you know that that team would

2566
01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,560
Speaker 1: go to Denver instead. If the Patriots are two and

2567
01:53:55,640 --> 01:53:58,560
Speaker 1: they play seven, the Patriots win, and then you know

2568
01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,839
Speaker 1: the three is going to be you know, either Houston

2569
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: or Jacksonville. If that six can beat the three, then

2570
01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 1: they would go to Denver. Yeah, right, and then you

2571
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:11,080
Speaker 1: get Buffalo, then you get Pittsburgh, Right, they would get Buffalo.

2572
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely think and I know would.

2573
01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,479
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh not not gonna win? No, I know, I'm saying

2574
01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:17,719
Speaker 1: for all the same for the Patriots.

2575
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:19,560
Speaker 6: I know I was kind of making fun of the

2576
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,639
Speaker 6: Bills media earlier, but like you can kind of feel

2577
01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 6: it and see it with the fans and the media

2578
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 6: in Buffalo that like this is like they're starting to

2579
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:30,960
Speaker 6: feel the pressure a little bit about maximizing alan.

2580
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:35,080
Speaker 1: Like you need to like win one. I could understand that.

2581
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:37,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think that that's some of the Rabel stuff,

2582
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:39,440
Speaker 6: Like I think that's where some of that reaction is

2583
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 6: coming from, is that like this is this should be

2584
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,520
Speaker 6: their the year, this is the year for them to win.

2585
01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: He's twenty nine years old. I mean, yeah, you know,

2586
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 1: the time is now. And then the other thing is

2587
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 1: does Baltimore win these games? Yeah, and is it so

2588
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: if you do slide up to five, do you go,

2589
01:54:56,120 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 1: is it Baltimore?

2590
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:57,040
Speaker 16: Is it?

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01:54:57,240 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Is it Buffalo at Baltimore? Yeah, which to he changes

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01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 1: the whole complexion of things. And then you want to

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01:55:02,080 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 1: stay sick so you can don't play you know, Jacksonville

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01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: or Houston. So the bottom linees just don't think about it.

2595
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 1: You just try to win games.

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01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 2: Kendall's in North Carolina. What's up, Kendall?

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01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:13,960
Speaker 22: Hey, what's going on?

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01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,040
Speaker 16: I'm probably going to the Bottomore game this weekend. I

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01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:20,880
Speaker 16: know any parties that's gonna be.

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01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 22: In there be in the area.

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01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:24,880
Speaker 2: There is going to be a huge one and I

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01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 2: don't have the information in front of me, so probably

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01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:31,080
Speaker 2: by tomorrow's show at noon, somebody will send it to

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01:55:31,160 --> 01:55:33,520
Speaker 2: me and I'll announce it on the show tomorrow. Or

2605
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: you can go to the uh Patriots tailgate page on Facebook.

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01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:41,400
Speaker 2: I know Barry incioon usually has that all that information,

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01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:45,160
Speaker 2: so it's called Patriots Tailgate. It's on Facebook to get

2608
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 2: it or to listen tomorrow and I'll tell you all

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01:55:48,160 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 2: about a Kendall. Thanks for the call. Danny's in Daytona.

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01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 2: What's up? Danny, Hey, how's it go guys?

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01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 15: Can you guys hear me?

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01:55:58,680 --> 01:55:58,880
Speaker 1: Hey?

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01:55:59,000 --> 01:56:01,720
Speaker 22: So today I just I called it on Sunday.

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01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 23: After the whole past couple of days of you know,

2615
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 23: depressing you know, from the game, and got to realize that,

2616
01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 23: you know, the loss was I guess a good teaching

2617
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 23: point that everyone's called in and said about. One thing

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01:56:15,240 --> 01:56:18,160
Speaker 23: I still want to keep harping on is the special teams.

2619
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,040
Speaker 23: I think that the Patriots should move in a different

2620
01:56:21,080 --> 01:56:25,560
Speaker 23: action with the punter and the coordinator just for various reasons.

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01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 23: We've just over the last couple of years, even long

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01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 23: before the Jeremy Springer was here, we just have had

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01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:34,920
Speaker 23: wild inconsistencies on special teams and for in it like that,

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01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:37,000
Speaker 23: it shouldn't be like that. I mean, we look at

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01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,080
Speaker 23: some of the cross the league with Buffalo, and you

2626
01:56:39,120 --> 01:56:40,800
Speaker 23: look at other teams that have some really, really good

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01:56:40,880 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 23: coordinators courting special teams. I just really think they need

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01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,880
Speaker 23: to address that in the off season. It's something that

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01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,200
Speaker 23: it's been an ongoing thing for you know, three or

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01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:52,000
Speaker 23: four years now that it just hasn't seemed to be

2631
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:54,320
Speaker 23: We have weeks where it looks good and then goes

2632
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 23: back to like, we know what we're doing, and then

2633
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:58,600
Speaker 23: we go to another week it looks good again and

2634
01:56:58,640 --> 01:57:01,080
Speaker 23: then goes back to doing what we're doing. So I

2635
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 23: think they need to change that. As for the defense,

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01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 23: I'm hoping that Midlands comes back and maybe he can

2637
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 23: maybe the run game will get fixed again. Looked, you know,

2638
01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:14,440
Speaker 23: halfway decent, like in the Ricers break part of the season.

2639
01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:15,960
Speaker 23: And the one thing I don't know if you guys

2640
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:23,000
Speaker 23: noticed that David Andrews and and uh, your guy Bars,

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01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 23: he came out of there and mentioned that about the penalties.

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01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:30,160
Speaker 23: I was watching it this morning on that Port five

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01:57:30,280 --> 01:57:32,800
Speaker 23: four club. He was talking about if you remember in

2644
01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:35,480
Speaker 23: the beginning of the season, there was so many ridiculous

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01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,160
Speaker 23: penalties and we were all like, this is not a

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01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:41,080
Speaker 23: mic Rable coach team, and their penalties just left and

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01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 23: right on all sides of the ball. And now you

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01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:48,240
Speaker 23: see the task game reminders throwing hands and then uh,

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01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 23: Dave Andrews even said during the Giants game that didn't

2650
01:57:51,840 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 23: happen there when Ellis hit their quarterback, you saw high.

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01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:57,720
Speaker 23: They're professional. So I don't know if you guys can

2652
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,839
Speaker 23: elaborate on that with why the professionals them in the penalties.

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01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 23: How that happened?

2654
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess he's saying that there aren't as

2655
01:58:06,560 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 2: many penalties as there were before or they.

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01:58:09,200 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 1: Have the season. I think a little bit of penalties

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01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 1: have dropped off.

2658
01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:15,640
Speaker 2: I have them not an issue for me.

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01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 1: They were an issue on Sunday, but that I think

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01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 1: that the penalties dropped off from the from the early

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01:58:21,120 --> 01:58:22,800
Speaker 1: part of the season. I think those two plays are

2662
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 1: very similar. When Christianewis hit Jackson Dart on the sideline,

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01:58:26,600 --> 01:58:28,640
Speaker 1: a guy from the Giants came over and took exception

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01:58:28,720 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: to the hit and he got the penalty. This one reminder,

2665
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:36,400
Speaker 1: Stevenson took exception to the hit that he got on

2666
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:39,440
Speaker 1: the sideline and he threw He actually threw a punch,

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01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, I don't know if there's gonna

2668
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: be an inquiry on this, they decided to call a

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01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,360
Speaker 1: penalty on the guy who got punched. And the guy

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01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 1: who punched I like that, so they called offsetting that right.

2671
01:58:51,480 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 2: Well, Remindre's punch was justified, but.

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01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:57,560
Speaker 1: Not if you asked Mike Grabel. I just like Mike

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01:58:57,600 --> 01:59:00,080
Speaker 1: Grabel was not happy with reminder Stevenson on how.

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01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know Robin, we'll end the show on

2675
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,440
Speaker 2: this email, He says, Am I crazy for thinking the

2676
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:10,280
Speaker 2: Patriots played well? So much of this episode has been

2677
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,000
Speaker 2: people asking what went wrong. I had no idea what

2678
01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:14,680
Speaker 2: was going to happen in that game. Part of me

2679
01:59:14,840 --> 01:59:17,440
Speaker 2: was thinking the Patriots might lose badly. I thought that

2680
01:59:17,640 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 2: all the turnovers in the first Bills game might have

2681
01:59:19,960 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 2: given us a skewed perception of how good this Patriots

2682
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:25,520
Speaker 2: team really is. The fact that they almost won means

2683
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 2: that they belong. Am I crazy for thinking like that?

2684
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:30,080
Speaker 1: No? I told you right.

2685
01:59:30,240 --> 01:59:31,160
Speaker 2: I've then started the show.

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01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 1: I told you I thought they played really well in

2687
01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:35,520
Speaker 1: the game, and I don't know why you thought they

2688
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 1: were going to get blown out. Quite honestly, you guys

2689
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:41,200
Speaker 1: have been telling me for ten straight weeks how this

2690
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 1: how good this team is, and in the back of

2691
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:44,680
Speaker 1: your mind you thought there was a chance they were

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01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:46,160
Speaker 1: going to get blown out. I didn't think there was

2693
01:59:46,200 --> 01:59:47,600
Speaker 1: any chance they were going to get blown out.

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01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:49,680
Speaker 4: You skated with them, They just let you let them

2695
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 4: off the hook.

2696
01:59:50,280 --> 01:59:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Fred, just real quick. I looked it up.

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01:59:52,200 --> 01:59:54,840
Speaker 3: So there is a this Saturday night, seven to nine

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01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,839
Speaker 3: pm at Lucky's Tavern ten Marketplace in Baltimore.

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01:59:58,120 --> 01:59:59,920
Speaker 1: There be a fan party. I think it's the official part.

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02:00:00,160 --> 02:00:01,120
Speaker 1: Some cheerleaders will be there.

2701
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 2: I think the Patriots are actually sending uh pat Patriot

2702
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:04,520
Speaker 2: down there.

2703
02:00:04,600 --> 02:00:06,760
Speaker 3: They've got a picture of pat Patriot on there. And

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02:00:06,880 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 3: so yeah, seven and nine, all ages welcome at Lucky's

2705
02:00:09,640 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 3: tap flight.

2706
02:00:14,560 --> 02:00:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I don't know that that's good.

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02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:18,960
Speaker 1: I don't know Baltimore it's in. Is that where you're

2708
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:23,960
Speaker 1: staying from. Yeah, there's going to be giveaways, raffles, surprise

2709
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:29,320
Speaker 1: appearances may just but not me. Paul will be here.

2710
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 1: Paul be holding down the floor. He's not a man

2711
02:00:31,960 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 1: of the people. No, no, behind the people.

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02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:38,160
Speaker 2: When I went to Tennessee in Nashville, they a lot

2713
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:39,680
Speaker 2: of people are saying, what is Evan coming?

2714
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean?

2715
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:42,680
Speaker 4: I'm not a man of the people. We have the

2716
02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:43,240
Speaker 4: show's over.

2717
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 17: But what is that?

2718
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:45,840
Speaker 2: You don't like people?

2719
02:00:46,280 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 4: You're right that.

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02:00:49,120 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 1: People not for you.

2721
02:00:50,120 --> 02:00:54,040
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see it tomorrow and cat ten am

2722
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 2: all right, Hey, this is Alex.

2723
02:00:58,360 --> 02:00:59,520
Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning into the show.

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02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:01,320
Speaker 15: If you really want to help us, make sure you

2725
02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:04,200
Speaker 15: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get

2726
02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 15: your podcasts. Also make sure you follow us on the

2727
02:01:07,000 --> 02:01:09,560
Speaker 15: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and

2728
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:11,520
Speaker 15: everything else we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Thanks a lot,