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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, June tenth, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We've taken hating

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Speaker 1: to a new level. It's me and your man, MG

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Speaker 1: Marcus Grown, joined by Michael F. Florio and Lakwan Jones.

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Speaker 1: Happy Tuesday, Fellas.

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Speaker 2: What up? What up? What up? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: We're look what We're gonna have to have a talk

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Speaker 1: on this show? Are we We're gonna have to have

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Speaker 1: a talk. I just I just want to. I just

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Speaker 1: want to get inside your brain a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: just want to. I just I just want to find

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Speaker 1: something careful. I know I'm prepared, but I just want

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Speaker 1: to find some things out.

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Speaker 2: We are. We're doing more what.

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Speaker 1: Ifs this week. We're gonna do some fantasy wide receiver

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Speaker 1: what ifs. We've done quarterbacks, we've done running backs, we

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Speaker 1: do wide receivers. As we get this. But Florio, I,

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Speaker 1: we're all obviously in a text chain. We commun n

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Speaker 1: kate pretty regularly. I have seen and read some things

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Speaker 1: from Lakwan that I just I can't wrap my head around.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any more insight into.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm with you, man, I look I understand the

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Speaker 3: because we're talking about Cooper Cup here being a Seattle Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: I understand not enjoying seeing one of your franchise players

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Speaker 3: go to one of your rivals. But like at the

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Speaker 3: end of the day, you guys fired him like that,

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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Speaker 1: So for you, for those of you who you know

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Speaker 1: who are trying to catch up here, which is probably most,

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Speaker 1: if not all of you, obviously you know Lakwan is

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Speaker 1: a Rams fan. Cooper Cup is no longer a RAM

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Speaker 1: and instead a Seattle Seahawk. And what happens is that

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Speaker 1: at least a couple of times over the last few weeks,

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Speaker 1: LQ will put something in the text chat about Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 2: It's using him in a Seahawks uniform.

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Speaker 1: And then it's always just just doing his thing right,

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Speaker 1: not hurting nobody, you know whatever Rams, And he's not

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Speaker 1: saying a word about the Rams.

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Speaker 2: He's not saying anything.

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Speaker 1: And the text, the tweet or the link is always

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Speaker 1: followed by just some ajes of hater rade, just a

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Speaker 1: giant shilled glass of hater rade in our text chains

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Speaker 1: about this, And I just I need to understand why Lakwan,

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Speaker 1: I do I need to understand.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand why he goes to a division rival.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Floria pointed out, he just wanted to go

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Speaker 4: back home.

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Speaker 2: Screw that, go away.

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Speaker 4: You've been home away for a while. Now we listen,

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Speaker 4: it's business. At the end of the day, you are

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Speaker 4: not a top performer or what you once were, and

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Speaker 4: we are ring chasing. So I get the business side

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Speaker 4: of it. But you go to the ops, you go

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Speaker 4: to the Seahawks of all teams, like what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: Like is he expecting to finish.

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Speaker 4: His career out at a high level to get a

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Speaker 4: rink because it ain't happen at home, Like, come on, man,

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Speaker 4: you should have went to the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: I think he's won his he wants to finish out

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Speaker 3: with his home, live at home, but family to college, right, Like.

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Speaker 5: It looks miserable.

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Speaker 1: What if, like you know, like what like if if

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Speaker 1: if the NFL just let you go and you decided

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Speaker 1: you wanted to get closer to home and you go

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Speaker 1: work for the four letter Network out in Connecticut because it.

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Speaker 2: Gets you closer to Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not gonna sit here and like just dump

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Speaker 1: on you on the pod, like I'm not gonna do that.

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Speaker 3: You know what, now, I would, I would, I would

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Speaker 3: every I'm just.

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Speaker 1: Wanting to just troll, just hate hate. Oh my god, hey,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't what I guess.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the depths of the haterism. Because one,

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Speaker 1: as we said, the Rams released him. It wasn't like

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Speaker 1: he pouted and forced his way out. They they decided

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Speaker 1: that they just needed to move on from him, so

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Speaker 1: they released him first of all. Second, can he helped

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Speaker 1: you win a super Bowl? He sure did, he won

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Speaker 1: a triple Crown. He helped you win a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: He was drafted by the Rams. He built himself up

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Speaker 1: into one of the top receivers in the league, and

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Speaker 1: then the team decided to discard him and move on

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Speaker 1: from him. They're like, we don't care where you go.

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Speaker 1: You can go do whatever.

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Speaker 5: So like zero point three c number one, like you.

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Speaker 1: Release see him, Like I just don't understand the level,

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Speaker 1: Like I get, I get, Like to Florida's point, I get, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he went to the Rams Like, oh that hurts a

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Speaker 1: me as a fan, if it were somebody like that,

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Speaker 1: I would apply, like you know that it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit different, right because the commanders and the Niners don't

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Speaker 1: really have a rivalry like that. But like, I'm not

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Speaker 1: mad about Deebo Samuel leaving, like he gave us a

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Speaker 1: lot of great years and a lot of great memories.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know what, man, I wish you well.

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Speaker 1: I hope you have success somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm not that I wish as well. I'm all right,

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Speaker 4: you're in my life. Because this is the thing. If

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Speaker 4: we break up, you don't go to my off my

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Speaker 4: opposition to the enemy with you, the better for better

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Speaker 4: we elevate.

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Speaker 5: But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: You can elevate but he can't.

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Speaker 3: And then you you replaced that what's an older player.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't like, hey, we're trying to get young. It

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Speaker 3: was just we want different.

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Speaker 4: We tried to get young because we tried to move

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Speaker 4: up to get tech McMillan, but that didn't work out obviously.

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Speaker 4: But I'm good with DeVante Adams. He's a placeover. He's

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Speaker 4: the rebound, you know, he getting a little two years

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Speaker 4: in the little honeymoon phase.

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Speaker 2: We get a ring and then we're out again.

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Speaker 3: You're you're listen to the Seahawks or Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 4: Bro I listen, I just don't see it being fair

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Speaker 4: for me to get you know, crucified, because I am

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Speaker 4: not the only Rams fan who.

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Speaker 3: Feels this way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but on this podcast, it's.

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Speaker 3: It's Yankee fans hating Juan Soto for for being a

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Speaker 3: met right.

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Speaker 1: Now, Like it's that which is But that actually makes

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Speaker 1: more sense to me because like Wan Soto just straight

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Speaker 1: up dissed them. Is just like, nah, I don't want

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Speaker 1: to say here, I want to go somewhere else. Like

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was like I'm cool here, like I'm down

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Speaker 1: to trill and Sean McVay was like, nah, bro, we're done.

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Speaker 2: Like that was it?

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Speaker 1: Like listen the Soto thing, like I actually like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think Angie fan needs to clean themselves up.

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Speaker 2: But that's a whole different conversation.

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Speaker 1: That actually makes a little bit more sense than Lakwan

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Speaker 1: being like, hey man, we had a great relationship.

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Speaker 2: You know, you did a lot first, you helped us

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Speaker 2: win blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: Oh you put on that color You're dead to me,

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Speaker 1: Like that didn't make your sense to me, Like you.

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Speaker 5: Brought a soul would have been worse.

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Speaker 4: It would It would have been worse if you went

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Speaker 4: to the forty nine ers, it would have been worse.

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Speaker 3: Deavin pointed out that you welcome Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. Yeah, we welcome up they come over here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: as long as.

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Speaker 4: You know we're dominant, we're the better team, and you

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Speaker 4: see a vision of victory here.

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Speaker 3: So you can cut donald retirement.

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Speaker 4: I want to I want to sign like the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: or something, just stain his legacy. There's a stain on

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Speaker 4: Cooper Cup's legacy right now because he's playing for the opposition,

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Speaker 4: a team that has no hopes of winning the division,

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Speaker 4: have no hopes for the playoffs, have no hopes.

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Speaker 3: Patriots. I mean, he's far away, but.

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Speaker 2: You want to send him to the Patriots. What are

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Speaker 2: we doing?

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Speaker 4: Hey? I mean, look, man, go help a young quarterback out.

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Speaker 4: We love Drake May on this pod.

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Speaker 2: You have hat in your heart. Let it out.

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Speaker 1: All right, One day we will unravel this, this twine

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Speaker 1: ball of hatred that you have.

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Speaker 3: But you know, right you you got to draft Cooper

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Speaker 3: Cup then you will enjoy his success even one that's true,

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Speaker 3: that's true.

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Speaker 2: No, you drafted I won't do it.

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Speaker 5: You drafted.

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Speaker 3: And I won't do it.

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Speaker 1: And that way, if he balls out, you at least

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Speaker 2: No, no, just saying.

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Speaker 3: I will say I was soured towards Steph Diggs last year,

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Speaker 3: but that was because he kind of forced his way out.

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Speaker 4: But he's on the Patriots now, like he It took

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Speaker 4: a year removed from him going to another team.

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Speaker 2: So if this.

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Speaker 3: Was what, I'm like, all right, be a page, I

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Speaker 3: don't care. But the Texas I was like, come on, man,

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Speaker 3: like you're choosing this over what you had.

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Speaker 1: Man, got a few headlines. Uh, some my trains are

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Speaker 1: smoke screens. Some big deals are no deals. I put

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Speaker 1: you know, figure out uh Laquan's mental state for a

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Speaker 2: So let's just get this out of the way.

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Speaker 1: So this actually happened about an hour or so after

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Speaker 1: we did the cheat sheet on Thursday, of course, because

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Speaker 1: that's just how our luck we called it. The news

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Speaker 1: comes down that Aaron Rodgers finally did what we knew

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is going to do for months. He signed

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers. Right, he was at a point where

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Speaker 1: he had two options. He was either signed with the

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Speaker 1: with the Steelers, which side notes of this whole thing,

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Speaker 1: He drops the news while two super rich megalomaniacs are

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Speaker 1: beefing with each other on social media.

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Speaker 2: He just slides that in the.

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Speaker 3: Shot that he announced then, because there's no day would

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Speaker 1: Would have been about him, all right, which seems like

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Speaker 1: a missed opportunity for Aaron one year, thirteen point six

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Speaker 1: million dollars. I mean, Florida, You've said this before, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're wrong. It seems like everybody was

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Speaker 1: drafting Steelers under the belief that Aaron Rodgers was going

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Speaker 1: to sign there, right, Like, I don't think DK metcalfs

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Speaker 1: adp is what it is on the belief that Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph was going to be the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So like, are we done?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Can we stop talking about the Steelers offense for a

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I think now for the first time we could

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Speaker 3: actually talk about it in a sense of like, I

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Speaker 3: think it's an awful fit for DK Metcalf, like, he

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Speaker 3: is a twenty seven percent target share last year. We're

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Speaker 3: all deep of his targets. I mean, we're all deep targets.

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Speaker 3: And then you have Aaron Rodgers who's throwing the deep

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Speaker 3: second lowest are yards per attempt of all qualified quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: He's been a better, more productive quarterback than Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 5: Because I see this being a train wreck.

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Speaker 2: Bill, Raves, Schust are in the playoffs for sure.

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Speaker 2: No, there's that, there's that.

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Speaker 3: this is a spoiled problem in a way, but they're like,

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Speaker 2: Not great.

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Speaker 5: Like Will Howard sees in.

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Speaker 3: No, no, it could be, but I don't like Alwin

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Speaker 1: Man, you know it's gonna happen. Actually is it's gonna be. Uh,

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be. Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 4: First of all, watch your mouth. Why did you say

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 4: Look at the hate that comes off of his lips

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, you know, he's okay, they have been.

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Speaker 1: Until he goes somewhere else and then suddenly you're just like, Nope.

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Speaker 2: You're fat, you're old.

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Speaker 4: Nope, see he's he's not a core Ram Like we

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Speaker 5: Okay.

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Speaker 4: If Matthew Stafford leaves after two years and go plays

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be hating him. We got the ring,

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Speaker 3: We're off to the next We keep it moving. What

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Speaker 2: Okay, then wearing a different game.

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Speaker 1: This is some some Moan Biles levels of gymnastics here

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Speaker 1: I man, okay, look man, oil to the core, don't

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Speaker 1: go against the rim. Okay, sure, uh, Texan inspected to

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and pretend that like Nick

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Speaker 1: Chubb is gonna threaten mixing at this point, but like,

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Speaker 2: Like I saw a.

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Speaker 4: Couple of people in the fantasy streets yesterday like overreacting

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Speaker 4: two hundred because Nick Chubb and Nick saw because we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's sort of how I feel about this.

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Speaker 1: Like I would love to see Nick Chubb kind of

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Speaker 3: You get to a certain point whereas injuries win.

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, they injuries win, and I think I think

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: Like is it though, Like no, really not at all?

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Speaker 3: Maybe he's a reason they subtract Josh Palmer bring in

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Speaker 5: Means is like the.

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Speaker 3: Confidence they have in this group is night and day

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just I mean, I saw the quote like night

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with.

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Speaker 1: We get into July, my concern level will go up.

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Speaker 1: We get into August, it goes up a little bit higher.

443
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Speaker 2: You know. If we get through the majority of the

444
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 2: preseason and we're.

445
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Speaker 1: Still talking about this, then my concern level goes up

446
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Speaker 1: for now I'm leaning I'm a small.

447
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 4: Deal closer to no deal about My concern is if

448
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 4: this does leak, and like let's use Brandon Ayuk for example,

449
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 4: how old he started, yeah and ended up getting hurt.

450
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,400
Speaker 4: Your body needs to be in football condition at top

451
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 4: tier with no stress of being paid or not. And

452
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Speaker 4: I think that plays a factor into this with Terry

453
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 4: mclauren because again we need him there for that chemistry

454
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 4: to build with these new people and new faces in

455
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Speaker 4: the building.

456
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Speaker 1: Although look, if I'm risking my body at the chance

457
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Speaker 1: of getting hurt, I want to make sure I get

458
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Speaker 1: paid for it too.

459
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Speaker 5: Exactly it lock him up.

460
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Speaker 3: If he gets paid at some point this month, we'll

461
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Speaker 3: totally forget that this even happened. But true with your

462
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: both your points, if this is still going on come August,

463
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Speaker 3: then then we have, like we have to knock him down.

464
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Speaker 3: I will say, though I'm expecting to be I think

465
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Speaker 3: I am every year, but I'm expecting to be the

466
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Speaker 3: high guy on Terry McLaurin. I haven't been ranked as

467
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Speaker 3: a wide receiver one.

468
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,479
Speaker 1: Okay, look at that, but it also fits considering how

469
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Speaker 1: high you are on Jaden Daniels too.

470
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Speaker 2: Right, So like it. It sort of tracks that way.

471
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he has used target since his rookie year, but

472
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Speaker 3: his best fantasy season, and I'm just like, they're gonna

473
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Speaker 3: throw the ball more that naturally. In my opinions, I think.

474
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Speaker 4: He's a third round pick, so it's like you just

475
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: have to make that decision. If he's the best of

476
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 4: that third round of available wide receivers right there, and

477
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 4: I think he is, I would not.

478
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Speaker 3: Taking him in a round two, so that I think

479
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Speaker 3: he's a good value right now.

480
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Speaker 1: This summer, Terri mcclorn is going to be a Google

481
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Speaker 1: guy in the sense of like you're gonna be on

482
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: the clock and you're gonna google, like, hey man, what's

483
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: the latest update on Terry McLaurin.

484
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Speaker 2: Like before you just pay him.

485
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Speaker 3: If you were the Commanders, you watched with your eyes

486
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Speaker 3: last seas and behind him, your top option was zach

487
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 3: Ertz and you made the NFC Championship game, Like, just

488
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 3: pay this guy. He is worth the money for sure.

489
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

490
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: Rannie Morris today speaking at mini camp for the Falcons,

491
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Speaker 1: talked about he is a said he has a matchup problem.

492
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Speaker 1: I'll let you guys, Gloria Glorial big deal or no

493
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: deal man, Like you know.

494
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Speaker 3: This is no deal. Like I want this to be

495
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 3: a big deal. But how many times and how many

496
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 3: different coaches are we gonna hear say this about Kyle Pitts.

497
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 3: It's every year, right, like all this is the year

498
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,680
Speaker 3: that And like I won't lie in my best ball

499
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 3: drafts right now, Like I'm taking Kyle Pitts because his

500
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,680
Speaker 3: ADP is like tight end eighteen, so I have him

501
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: on a couple of teams as my second tight end

502
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 3: or whatever. But like I'm not getting sucked in again,

503
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Speaker 3: Like I need to see it actually happen on the

504
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Speaker 3: football field before I allow my emotions to get hurt again.

505
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is no deal.

506
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: Like however you felt about Kyle Pitts coming into this,

507
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: you're not changing because you hear this.

508
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 2: It's not like if you were, if.

509
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 1: You somehow we're still there on Kyle Pitt's island. One,

510
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: you're probably really lonely. But two two, this is not

511
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: it's not it's not changing your you know you're feeling

512
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 1: if you're if you jumped off, you swam off the island,

513
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: or you got a boat ride out.

514
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 2: You're not turning around just because you hear this, So yeah.

515
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's not a big deal. Let's let's just

516
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: move on. I'm just gonna slip this in right now

517
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 3: because Gavin just let us know, and I saw it

518
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: on Twitter after he let let us know. Miles Garrett

519
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 3: was asked about Aaron Rodgers playing in his division and

520
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: he said, I think it's a good opportunity to put

521
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Speaker 3: him in the graveyard.

522
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Speaker 5: Love that, I mean, Tyler Rake style.

523
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Speaker 2: Let's go.

524
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Speaker 1: I mean, if we're if we're keeping it a bus

525
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: I mean, like he almost put another Steelers quarterback in

526
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Speaker 1: the graveyard.

527
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: He actually had like his it's Halloween right where he

528
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: does that, Like he makes his yard a graveyard of

529
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: all the QBC secked. He's crazy enough where that's not

530
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: just on Halloween. Like I think he just lives that way.

531
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Speaker 2: That's just that's just his house.

532
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Speaker 1: I mean what he did to Mason Rudolph a few

533
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 1: years ago too. So yeah, all right, good luck Aaron,

534
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: Good luck. James Cook is at Bill's Mini Camp Floria.

535
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Speaker 2: I'm guessing you think this is a big deal.

536
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh, this is a ginormous deal. No, Like I wasn't

537
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 3: worried about him missing like voluntary camp and stuff like that.

538
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: And I still think the best case scenario for both

539
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: parties is to work something out, even if it's a

540
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: one year like renegotiate the amount of money or whatever,

541
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: Like the Bills offense is better with James Cook and

542
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 3: the Bills offense is James cook best landing spot, So

543
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: like make it work. And and if so, I think

544
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 3: we're looking at James Cook as a solid bat. Like

545
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 3: I don't know if if he falls because of the

546
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: contract stuff or if he falls just because people are

547
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: like concerned if he's gonna do what he did last

548
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: year again or whatever. But I have him on a

549
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 3: number of basketball teams where he just like I didn't

550
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: want James Cook, but I was like, oh, James Cook

551
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: is still here, Like yeah, I'll take him. He's falling

552
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: way past his ADP.

553
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I but I do wonder whether or

554
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: not that ADP comes up now if he's showing up

555
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: with me camp and the hope that hey, you know,

556
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: maybe things are working out. Two side's gonna be okay.

557
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: So I wonder if that's going to impact ADP as well.

558
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 1: Something to watch, something to watch for.

559
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Speaker 4: But you know, he's in the back end of the

560
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 4: third round. It isn't terrible. It should's terrible, honestly. Yeah,

561
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 4: him and Kirn are like close. Yeah, I don't know

562
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 4: how much more movement he's gonna get. We'll see for sure.

563
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: All Right, there we go, Let's get into our wide receiver.

564
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Speaker 3: What if?

565
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Speaker 2: After a quick breakstick around?

566
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Speaker 1: Coming up more of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

567
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Speaker 2: Time for a few what if? I got five of

568
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: them right here?

569
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: Some of them we've already sort of touched on, but

570
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: I felt like it'd be fun to kind of dive

571
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: in a little bit a little bit more with here

572
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: in this little section here. So first one, we kind

573
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: of talked about this earlier. I think last week it

574
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 1: was Laurio, what if Brian Thomas Junior isn't really that dude?

575
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: Because you got to pay a high price right now

576
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: to get him?

577
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, why are you like first round price? And if

578
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: you put this on the internet, the internet will come

579
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 3: for you. Because after our show last week, I was like,

580
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: I want to do some digging into this, and I

581
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 3: did a lot of digging and put out a whole

582
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: thread and like, it depends on how you view it,

583
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: because if you look at just your stats, he was

584
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: objectively amazing, but he was better with Mac Jones and

585
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence. He was significantly better and more utilized whenever

586
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: in Ingram and Christian Kirk weren't out there. And it

587
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: wasn't until all of that happened in week thirteen on

588
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: that he broke out now and a lot of people

589
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 3: in my mentions being like, well, that's called being a

590
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: rookie and getting better as you go, and like they

591
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: finally decided to use him as a wide receiver one

592
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But I do think it adds

593
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: a little bit of volatility, like it, And I said

594
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: this on a different show I was on the other day,

595
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 3: Like you hear people be like, I don't know if

596
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 3: I want Jonathan Taylor because so much of his production

597
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: came in a short sample size. But you don't hear

598
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: anyone say that about Brian Thomas Junior. And that was

599
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 3: one hundred percent the case. Like again, much better at

600
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 3: Mac Jones and when all of the other targets were gone,

601
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 3: and he I think it depends on how you view

602
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter and how big of a threat he is

603
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: to steal volume away. But I think Travis Hunter is amazing,

604
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: So like they have a legit one two punch there.

605
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: I still have Brian Thomas Junior ranked as a wide

606
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: receiver one, but like I have aj Brown ahead of him.

607
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: I know that is something you don't see in ADP

608
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: and stuff. And then I think like him versus Nico Collins,

609
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: him vers Laden McConkey. To me, those are legit conversations,

610
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: but they're not going to be in fantasy drafts. Like

611
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas Junior is gonna go way before, like not

612
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: way before because they're all early picks, but he's gonna

613
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 3: go before those guys.

614
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: Well and LaQuan Floya mentioned when I was gonna get

615
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: to the Jaguars spent the number two overall pick on

616
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter and immediately said, oh no, he's a wide receiver, right,

617
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: and like, like, I get it. Two wide receivers can

618
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: certainly coexist in the same space at the same time

619
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: and both be very productive. But I don't know, should

620
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: we take something away from that that Liam Cohen was

621
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: immediately like, oh no, no, no, no, we are making

622
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: this man wide receiver.

623
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna get him the ball.

624
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: Like that feels like that's, you know, not that they're

625
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: dumping on Brian Thomas, Like they don't think he's bad,

626
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: but they obviously feel like they need somebody in there

627
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: to sort of compliment him in this offense.

628
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 4: I think what we're missing here too. Also it comes

629
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: down to Trevor mid Lawrence. Can he support, yeah, Travis

630
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: Hunter and Brian Thomas Junior, which I think it's on

631
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: the table that he could. He was able to support

632
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 4: Evan Ingram and Christian Kirk. These are obviously different duos

633
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 4: of wide receivers and pass catcher that we're talking about

634
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: right now. But Brian Thomas Junior ADP is not reflecting

635
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 4: any type of like impact of Travis Hunter, which.

636
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 5: Plays a huge risk. Like Flurio said that he has

637
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: a J.

638
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: Brown ranked hired in him, I actually have Drake London

639
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 4: ranked hired him just based on security of the offense

640
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 4: that he's in. Drake London likely is going to have

641
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: that twenty seven to twenty eight percent target share because

642
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 4: we've seen it. We've seen it done with Kirk Cousins

643
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: and with Michael Pennix. So I feel like with Brian

644
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: Thomas Jr. He needs to come down a little bit

645
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 4: for me to be interested in taking that gamble with him,

646
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 4: because at the same time, we don't know what Travis

647
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 4: Hunter is going to do on offense. He could honestly

648
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 4: be the one b of this situation where he can

649
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 4: eat into some of that volume that Brian Thomas Junior

650
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 4: saw in the back end, and it out as well

651
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: that he had better production with mac Jones Mac Jones

652
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, exactly like what happened with Trevor

653
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: Lawrence in that beginning of the season, which I think, honestly,

654
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 4: if we give some leeway, some slack to Trevor Lawrence,

655
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: it's more so the beginning of the season. Brian Thomas

656
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: j is a rookie. He has this chemistry already built

657
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 4: with his top two pass catchers with Evan Ingram and

658
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk. But throughout the time the nine games that

659
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: Trevor LaRence was there, we kind of seen Brian Thomas

660
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: develop into the obviously number one target.

661
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 5: So there's both.

662
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: Sides of the defense where you can come out with

663
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: a great wide receiver, one that can hit those pinnacles

664
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 4: that you think he can hit with Trevor Lawrence, or

665
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: he could be a bust and end up being a

666
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: low win wide receiver too. Because of the Travis Hunner impact.

667
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: So I'm pivoting, you know, if he's going to be

668
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: that first round price.

669
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, so far.

670
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: When I've been there late round, late first round and

671
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: he's on the board, I just I've been hesitant to

672
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: take him so far just because of that. And look,

673
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: here's it. This could be a'man Ross Saint Brown all

674
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: over again.

675
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 2: Right. Remember I'm on Ros's rookie year.

676
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: He got hot at the end of the season and

677
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 1: a lot of people said, well, it's because the Lions

678
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: had a bunch of injuries and he was the only

679
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: healthy guy there, and let's be really cautious. And then

680
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: the next year ours Bo went out and balled again

681
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: and we were all like, okay, no, this guy actually

682
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: is hashtag good. So you know this, I think this

683
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: is the opportunity for Brian Thomas.

684
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 4: He's a good proof, but we had to question the quarterback.

685
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 3: That's where I'm at with it.

686
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: Which side note to that Trevor mid Lawrence sounds like

687
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: a second rate character in a Thor comic. It's like

688
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: Thor Loki and then like they went on an adventure

689
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: with Trevor mid Lawrence.

690
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, I also I know I'm about to

691
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: sound like a hater, like like LQ with Cooper Cup,

692
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: but I remember I remember watching Brian Thomas Junior late

693
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: in the season. I was playing him in a in

694
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: a big fantasy matchup or something like that, and he

695
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 3: had like an eighty nine yard like touchdown or something

696
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: like that, like don't quote me in the exact yards,

697
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 3: but it was an insanely super long touchdown where I

698
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: remember being like there was literally no one in his vicinity,

699
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 3: Like it was a complete broken play. And I was

700
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 3: just gonna say, like fantasy community loves to point that

701
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 3: out when it's Quentin Johnston, but when we put blinders on,

702
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: you know, like like I remember a number of broken

703
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: plays benefiting Brian Thomas Junior in.

704
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 4: That maybe he's that good at route running, you know,

705
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 4: Quent Johnson either well it's either he gets the broken

706
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 4: the broken play, he gets the touchdown, or he drops it.

707
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 3: Who knows that that's the problem? Man?

708
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: All right, lakwan, what if there are too many wide

709
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: receivers in Houston? Oh well, there's that feeling. It was

710
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: like a real possibility.

711
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 4: You kind of feel bad for Nico Collinson because it's like,

712
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: all right, man, we need you to be the wide

713
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 4: receiver one that we're paying for in this first round

714
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 4: or on the turn in the second round. If Higgins, Noel,

715
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk, if any of these guys step up and

716
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 4: we don't get a productive Nico Collins or healthy Nico Collins,

717
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 4: I feel kind of left out, you know. I kind

718
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 4: of feel like I'm left with the bag, the bag

719
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: of who you know drafting Nicil Collins because he's he's

720
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: one of those guys you have to worry about with

721
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: the injury concern, you have to worry about Stroud bouncing

722
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 4: back with the offensive line being terrible, and then these

723
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 4: new faces, these new guys. Who's to say that Jaden

724
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 4: Higgins doesn't become like the red zone threat. Who's to

725
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 4: say Noel doesn't become c J. Strout's immediate target because

726
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk is basically regressing. But he's one of those

727
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 4: guys that I feel like he'll become like a security

728
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: blanket for c J. Strout if this old line is

729
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 4: still bad. So that makes Nico suffer on the deep

730
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: ball where he's electric, where he's the best freaking dominant

731
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: wide receiver out there when that thing is going and jailing,

732
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 4: So there's a lot of question marks, you know, with

733
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 4: this wide receiver if they're going to be with the

734
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 4: gel and like everybody can eat. But again I'm a

735
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: little hesitant on Nico because his price is high too,

736
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 4: like Brian Thomas Junior as well.

737
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: I mean this time last year Florida, we were talking

738
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: about the Texans wide receiver group and the Packers wide

739
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: receiver group sort of in similar terms. The difference being

740
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: the Packers were probably a little bit cheaper in drafts

741
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 1: because you know, we love Nico Collins, people were excited

742
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: about Tank Dell, Stefan Diggs had come over, so there's

743
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: nothing more excitement, more hype around them, and you had

744
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: to pay a higher draft prize for them. But in

745
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: the end, and look in the middle of the injuries

746
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: had something to do with it. But in the end,

747
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,479
Speaker 1: neither of those wide receiver rooms was very satisfying. We've

748
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: already sort of washed our hands of Green Bay, Like

749
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: what's stopping us from sort of doing the same with

750
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: the Texans right now.

751
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: The difference is the Texans have an alpha wide receiver,

752
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 3: make like Nico Collins was the Alpha when he was

753
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: sharing the field with Steph Diggs and tanked out no

754
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: offense to Christian Kirk and these rookies. They're all fighting

755
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: for scraps in my opinion, behind Nico Collins. My concern

756
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 3: with Nico is what is the health of CJ. Shroud's

757
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 3: shoulder right now? What is the state of that old line.

758
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: But I don't have concerns about these other wide receivers

759
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 3: eating like heavily into his workload. I think they're all

760
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 3: complimentary pieces. And I like to me again, if you

761
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 3: stood out after the big acquisition of Steph Diggs and

762
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 3: when Tank Dell was still what we thought was Tank Dell, like,

763
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be fine pushing aside a couple

764
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 3: of Day two rookies and Christian Kirk at this point.

765
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't put you know, we're gonna do like

766
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: a draft prices, right.

767
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: I didn't put Nico Collins in there. But maybe we

768
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: can talk about that one too.

769
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 3: He's in there in the nasty work.

770
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: It's just a tough situation. Laurya. What a father time

771
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: is finally caught up to Mike Evans.

772
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: Look, I know at some point it's going to happen,

773
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: but I don't think this is the year because I

774
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: am a big believer and it's something that I've changed

775
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 3: my approach in the last couple of years. I used

776
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: to think that I could find the player that was

777
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 3: going to age well and stuff, and it's just an

778
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 3: effort in futility, right, like some are going to age

779
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: better than others and stuff. But in my opinion, if

780
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: you have a rule of like when an agent player

781
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 3: and for receivers aging to me is over thirty years

782
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 3: old shows a sign of decline and their metrics and

783
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 3: stuff like that, believe them because we talk about it

784
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 3: all the time on the show. The age cliff happens

785
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 3: very fast. In the NFL. Usually see a year where

786
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 3: a player is not quite himself, and you could always

787
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: write that up to different reasons. But then usually it

788
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: look at Tyler Lockett right like two years ago, it

789
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 3: was like, okay, that might be the sign of a decline,

790
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: and then the next year he was unusable in fantasy,

791
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 3: like Cooper Cup is another one. Stuff like that happens fast.

792
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 3: But I look at Mike evans metrics and his yards

793
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 3: per route last year was the tide his career high,

794
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: his yards per target, his separation, all of that it

795
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 3: was either on par with his career norm or even higher.

796
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: His worst years, believe it or not, were the two

797
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 3: final years with Tom Brady metric wise, which was for

798
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: for a bit why I thought Mike Evans was starting

799
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: to fall off. But he has just been so good

800
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 3: these last couple of years that and I feel like

801
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 3: you get that discount baked in his ADP a bit

802
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: because Mike Evans never gets drafted as a wide receiver one,

803
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: yet routinely is up there with the wide receiver one,

804
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: so you get him as like a mid wide receiver two.

805
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: I think you're getting that discount baked in.

806
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: Should I not freaked out LaQuan about the fact that

807
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: it took him to the very last play of the

808
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: regular season to get Mike Evans over one thousand yards

809
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: last year they had they.

810
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: Had to run to play specifically, and everybody.

811
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 4: Was coming right like the just held hands together and

812
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 4: like do it, Mike.

813
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: We all shared, we all ad sheered four.

814
00:38:58,480 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 3: We did.

815
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 2: It was exciting, you know, like.

816
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: What you're saying, no, no, no, I think if we

817
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: get Mike Evans healthy and we saw, you know, his

818
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 4: production actually increase with guys like Chris Goden go down

819
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 4: and injury, like the volume is going to be there,

820
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 4: and Baker Mayfield is playing really good football now, like

821
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 4: this is a brand new, invented, paid Tampa Bay Baker Mayfield,

822
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 4: Like we're not questioning the quarterback position right now. So

823
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 4: I'm expecting good production out of Mike Evans. He's one

824
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 4: of those guys that I'm ready to die on the

825
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: hill for. I'm drafting him every single year as a

826
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 4: high end wide receiver too on my team because it's

827
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 4: like to get Mylik Neighbors and Mike Evans in the

828
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: third round, I feel like that is just a beautiful

829
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 4: way to start. And I think how I attacked a

830
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 4: couple of these best ball drafts. He's falling even less

831
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 4: than the third round. So it's like people are forgetting

832
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 4: that Mike Evans is still in alpha. He's still him,

833
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 4: Like the thousand yard thing ain't easy to do, and

834
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 4: he's out there doing it even though he was forced

835
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 4: fed last year though, but we're still going to champion.

836
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 3: Was twelve hundred yards, like he did miss three games

837
00:39:58,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: last year.

838
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: And it's still ridiculous, so that he's still going out

839
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: there being as productive as he is. I mean it's

840
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: really insane. So I'm dying on the hill with Mike

841
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 4: Evans man the age.

842
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 3: I beat the Age.

843
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: Okay, No, it's fine, you know, I bet. I feel

844
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: like we just have to ask the question. That's cool.

845
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Uh lakwan? What if Sean Payton finds out who Marvin

846
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: Mims is?

847
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 4: This is funny to me when I saw it too,

848
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 4: because I was like, he's probably not ever gonna find

849
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 4: out who this man.

850
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: Like.

851
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 4: It's just one of those things where like he had

852
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: that big surge at the back end in the season.

853
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 4: I know, you know Sean Payton saw that because he

854
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 4: actually is averaging fourteen Fantasy points for a game from

855
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 4: week ten and on. So it's one of those things

856
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 4: that he had those big surges in the game, especially

857
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: the last two where he hit like twenty plus Fantasy

858
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: points in back to back games. It's more so you

859
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 4: look at the snap percentage, and that's why you don't

860
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 4: think that Sean Payton knows who he is. He's playing

861
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: thirty two percent into snaps in that time frame even

862
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 4: with that surge, So obviously he's a weapon of the offense.

863
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 4: He's going to be deployed at certain moment. So his

864
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 4: role is to be that and Troy Franklin are basically

865
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 4: trading off on that that nine route that they hit

866
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: every single time when they make the big place. But

867
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 4: it's more so you got Pat Bryant there, that's that

868
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: new toy, and you're going to be hearing about him

869
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 4: uring camp. So I'm waiting for I got all the

870
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 4: beat writers basically highlighted and all my top tabs you

871
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 4: know for blue Sky on Twitter, so I already know

872
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 4: Pat Brian's going to make an impact in that wide

873
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 4: receiver room. So it's like, oh, who's Marvin Minn.

874
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 5: Oh that guy?

875
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, so there's that and yes, oh this is wide

876
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 4: receiver three.

877
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I know you're going to no, Actually that what

878
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna say at all. I'll say.

879
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: All you've done, though, is by setting up all your

880
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: tabs with beat writers from Denver, you just you've created

881
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: your own little echo chamber because when you because when

882
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 1: one guy or when one right reporter says it, like

883
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: all of them are going to say it, and you're

884
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: gonna be bombarded with all this like you know, positive

885
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: or negative Pat Bryant news, and your emotions just gonna

886
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: swing wildly one way or another because that is.

887
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: Very true because I don't know many beat writers that

888
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 4: write for Denver or report for Denver, so it's one

889
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 4: of those things I don't had a trusted source it,

890
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 4: so I'm going to try to pick thure.

891
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: It out so that out soon, all right.

892
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Also, I'm going to just go to you for any

893
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos stuff because you are like, you're you're a

894
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: Broncos guy now yea.

895
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: And r J. Harvey Man the Knicks, Pat Brown, We're

896
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: all in on the offense.

897
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 3: Bro.

898
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 4: I saw Florio on Insiders yesterday talking about Boat Knicks

899
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 4: as well. Man, Look, I don't like him as much

900
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: as you.

901
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: I'm not going to claim to be the next guy,

902
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: but to.

903
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: Me, you are the guy that you are the next guy.

904
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: You're just the k n I C k oh yeah.

905
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, tape baby.

906
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: It is. Also, how's that superstar status working out? Tyre's Halliburton?

907
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 3: I mean thirteen points per game or something like that.

908
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: They did win game one of the series.

909
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did nothing for forty seven minutes. I'm not

910
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: saying he's not a good player, but you're not a star.

911
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: If you could vanish for four quarters and your team could.

912
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 1: Still I Neede Gavin said, but that forty eighth minute man, man, Hey,

913
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: he's club. I guess I need to find somebody that

914
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: I hate the way LaQuan hates Cooper Cup in the

915
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: way you hate Tyree's Aliburton.

916
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: I don't hate many athletes, but he is a top

917
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 3: him in that entire Indiana Pacers team.

918
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 4: And I don't hate Cooper Cup. I hate his decision making.

919
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: That's it. That's about all right, fair enough, Floria. What

920
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: if all the rookies are just men at wide receiver.

921
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: You know, it would be very unfortunate in NFL teams

922
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: would be very upset. I will say, this is the

923
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 3: first time in a while where I'm not like like,

924
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 3: I like Travis Hunter a lot, but you have to

925
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 3: take him like as a wide receiver to right around

926
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 3: like DeVonta Smith and and McMillan and those guys. So

927
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 3: like last year, I was pounding the table from elite neighbors,

928
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 3: I was really in Marvin Harrison junior, and we're going

929
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: to talk about him, like, I like this wide receiver class,

930
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: but I'm not crazy in love with it like I

931
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: was in past year. So I think this is very

932
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: much possible. In fact, I'll say I have a lot

933
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: of shares of the late round dart throw rookies like

934
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 3: Pat Bryant and those guys. I'm not as like I

935
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 3: have a couple in my best ball of Travis Hunter

936
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: and McMillan and stuff, But I'm not. It's not like

937
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: last year where I'm or even every year probably for

938
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: the last like five years, where there's rookies that you

939
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 3: could just like pound the table on. Like I do

940
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 3: think this class. We said it during the draft, and

941
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 3: I'm feeling it now like it does that the high

942
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: end talent feels a little bit weaker than it typically.

943
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: Is well and even like, look I looked at it

944
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: like the high end talent landed in spots where you're

945
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: not really in love with the quarterback situation, you know,

946
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: like you look at Tech McMillan. You know, Bryce Young

947
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: definitely improved last year compared to where he was his

948
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: rookie year, but we're still not looking at Bryce Young

949
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: as this guy who's just gonna feed fantasy families, right,

950
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: And so like what said, the bill is kind of eh,

951
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: Travis Hunter, I mean, I know how you feel about

952
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: Trevor mid Lawrence right off running the front and side

953
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 1: quests with Thorn Loki, you know, and so.

954
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: He would hang out with the with uh I get

955
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm not thinking of his superhero name, the dude from

956
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 3: Parks and Rick Chris.

957
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Pratt character, Oh star Lord. Yeah, he'd be with that.

958
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: He's a Yeah, Trevor mid Lawrence is one of the Guardians.

959
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fair that's fair enough. I'm looking.

960
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: But you know, you look at the guys who are

961
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: in maybe better offenses, right, but a meccabuga is buried

962
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: on the depth chart, Luthor Burden. There's a lot of

963
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 1: competition there, Matthew Golden. I mean, let's not get into

964
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: the packers ride receivers again. You know, Higgins and Knowle

965
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: Jack Besh I think is down the list there in

966
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: Las Vegas.

967
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: I mean, there just aren't a lot of easy like.

968
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: You know, like last year, we look at the Laite

969
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: neighbors were like, yeah, man, that's the dude. I mean,

970
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 1: we thought that about Marvin Harrison Junior. That didn't work

971
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: for various reasons, but.

972
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 2: We saw that.

973
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: We saw the vision, right, we saw the vision with Harrison.

974
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: There's nobody here in this group that I look at him.

975
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, yep, that's the dude that's gonna eat for

976
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: sure this year.

977
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 4: No, and I think that's the biggest problem just based

978
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 4: on where some of these guys are going, like Travis

979
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: Hunter and Tim McMillan, they're going in the fourth round.

980
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 4: I'd rather not take that gamble there. I rather take

981
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: proven talent. Like if you ask me, it may sound crazy,

982
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: I might take Sutton, I might take George Pickens. I

983
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 4: might pivot to these other players that I feel like

984
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 4: in the better positions. Yeah, and like guys like that

985
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 4: I'd rather have in that round. But honestly, how heavy

986
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: the first three rounds are going with these wide receivers.

987
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 4: I'm honestly not looking in the fourth round for a

988
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: wide receiver rookie, Like I'm not looking there for any

989
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: upside for a guy because, to be honest, I'm looking

990
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 4: for a running back there. I feel like the position

991
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 4: is stronger in that fourth fifth round at the running

992
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: back spot than to gamble with some of these other

993
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 4: guys like a Jameis Williams or a Travis Hunter. Like

994
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 4: I said, like that is the two areas, like I

995
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: kind of pivot to.

996
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 2: I'm in on Jamison Williams this year.

997
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 3: I would you take DeVonta Smith or those rookies. Smith,

998
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 3: I think I think he's going Sandwich last I looked

999
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 3: at their ADP. I think it's he's right in between

1000
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 3: the two rookies.

1001
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 5: That's disrespectful.

1002
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Then yeah, I'll take I'll think that's crazy.

1003
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: I'll take Skinny Batman.

1004
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 4: You know what it is though, it's people that are

1005
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 4: just now coming outside, like for fantasy and drafting. Because

1006
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 4: I did see Ted like all, I did not realize

1007
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 4: he was going in the fourth round.

1008
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: I thought he was later.

1009
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 3: I have a friend who just did like a best

1010
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 3: ball for the first time this week, and he was like,

1011
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 3: I don't know any of these rookies. So like, I

1012
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 3: think there's other people who are starting to draft who

1013
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 3: are like they think it's fun to draft a rookie

1014
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 3: and stuff.

1015
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: You know, could be good.

1016
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: Be all right, that's our our what it's gonna come

1017
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: back after a break and do a draft prices, right

1018
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: some uh two highs too lows on some current wide

1019
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: receiver ADPs. That's coming up next on the NFL Fantasy

1020
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: Football Podcast.

1021
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: Final segment of the show. We're gonna do a little

1022
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: bit of draft prices, right.

1023
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: We did it last week with running backs, we do

1024
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,919
Speaker 1: it this week with some wide receivers. I got five

1025
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: guys on the list, not the Burger place. I'm on

1026
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: Ross Saint Brown talked about him a little bit earlier.

1027
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: How you know, is Brian Thomas Junior maybe a redo

1028
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: of that. We'll see wide receiver six right now. And

1029
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 1: we got news was last week that he had gone

1030
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: through some offseason surgery. So I mean, knowing all of

1031
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 1: that right now, and no Ben Johnson Florida wide receiver six,

1032
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: too high, too low.

1033
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: There's always a third option in the story of just run.

1034
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 3: And that's I think because I have him ranked as

1035
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: wide receiver six. I have Melik Neighbor literally my shirt

1036
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: and LQ shirt ahead of him with Pooka and Melik Neighbors.

1037
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 3: And I put that on Twitter the other day and

1038
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 3: people thought it was like a hot take, I guess,

1039
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, not only did he lose Ben Johnson,

1040
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 3: they also lost past game coordinator, so it is a

1041
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 3: first time play caller in Detroit. Plus they lost two

1042
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: interior offensive linemen and they have a pretty tough schedule

1043
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: this year, like it just the knee surgery. All of that,

1044
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Molik neighbors with the QB upgrade. I

1045
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: think his upside is wide receiver one. I think Puka

1046
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 3: Nakua is upside as wide receiver one. I think Amana

1047
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: Saint Brown's upside is like top three, top five. I

1048
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 3: don't know if he quite has wide receiver one in

1049
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 3: his range of outcomes.

1050
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think he's an overall wide receiver one,

1051
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: but I think yeah. I say this, when you're drafting

1052
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: a guy in that area, that range, it's not because

1053
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: you think he's going to be the best or you

1054
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: think he's going to be like the sixth best wide receiver.

1055
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: It's that the range of outcomes for that guy is

1056
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: a lot narrower than for other players. And I think

1057
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: that's what it is for for ours at this one.

1058
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: We started of talking about this before Lakwan. Marvin Harrison Junior.

1059
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: The videos, not the videos, the pictures are floating around

1060
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: social media. Apparently he's discovered lifting weights or something.

1061
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1062
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: Great he's super jacked if you haven't seen it yet.

1063
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: The Cardinals put out a picture of Marvin Harrison Junior

1064
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: in his jersey and dude's got triceps on top of triceps.

1065
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 3: Now definitely not airbrush or anything.

1066
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Definitely not photoshopped or airbrushed or enhanced in any way.

1067
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: Possibly still do at all, I'm sure. So I'm sure

1068
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 2: somebody still does.

1069
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: But right now he's going wide receiver fourteen after a

1070
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: disappointing rookie season that too high, too low, or you know,

1071
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: goldilocks just right too high.

1072
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 4: And I say that respectfully. And it's not him as

1073
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 4: a talent that the problem is is that Drew Petsing.

1074
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 4: This is his third year, but the same offensive just

1075
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 4: boring and not creative. And then it's Kyla Murray who

1076
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 4: can't connect with his wide receiver one. We haven't seen

1077
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 4: it done in a very long time, so we're all

1078
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 4: these question marks. I'm not in on it, like I'm

1079
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: just not comfortable with it because it's like I'd rather

1080
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 4: pivot to other options there because we talked about some

1081
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 4: of them. There's other wide receiver twos that have wide

1082
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 4: receiver one type of Spike Weeks. I don't know if

1083
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison is going to be as consistent to be

1084
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 4: a wide receiver one on my team, So I'm just

1085
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 4: going to drop him down further outside the top fifteen

1086
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: until I see otherwise, Yeah.

1087
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: I fourteen feels a little rich for me.

1088
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: The thing though, I keep coming back to he had

1089
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns last year, and I just like, I keep

1090
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: going back on my head and like win and how

1091
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: like it just right, Like it just didn't feel like

1092
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: I saw a touchdown year.

1093
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 3: I circle that game.

1094
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like, I.

1095
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,959
Speaker 1: Think the Cardinals played well against the forty nine ers

1096
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: last year, and I think Harrison had a couple of

1097
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 1: touchdowns against them, actually had won late in the season,

1098
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: But overall, I'm just like, yeah, it just didn't feel

1099
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 1: like it. Maybe because he never put up any big

1100
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: yardage numbers. Really they're in season just the touchdown.

1101
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 5: They figured out how to use him in the red zone.

1102
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 5: I'll tell you that they did quick.

1103
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 3: Stats on him, real quick. He had the second highest

1104
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: rate of uncatchable targets amongst receivers, the most tight window targets,

1105
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: and the fifth most unrealized air yards. Like, at some

1106
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: point it's like what well l Q said, it's on

1107
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 3: the OC. I think it's also on Kyler Murray.

1108
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 5: Like, well, Kyler can get.

1109
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 3: To the ball to the tight end into the running

1110
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: backs and stuff, but the out wide deep throws are

1111
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: the hardest ones to make in the NFL.

1112
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 2: Kyler told us it's not his job to get Marvin

1113
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 2: Harrison targets.

1114
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 3: He was.

1115
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: Right, to which we all universally said, no, bro, it

1116
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: actually is your job.

1117
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 4: He said, Great, dorsch would be a wide receiver one

1118
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 4: man if he's just a little bit taller, so he's

1119
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 4: obviously all for the short kings.

1120
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 2: I forgot about Dorschland. I forgot all about that.

1121
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 5: We didn't forget. Don't worry.

1122
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 4: He's in a lot of my best ball leagues. I'm

1123
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 4: still believing. Shut up Dorschland yet, Like, no, you know,

1124
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,800
Speaker 4: the amusement part won't starting to probably closer to August.

1125
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 5: But we'll see, we'll see.

1126
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure that scooking the game will be there finding

1127
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: criminals if the abandoned doors in the back.

1128
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 2: Florida.

1129
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden right now is the wide receiver forty two.

1130
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: For context, Jayden Reid is wide receiver forty three. Uh,

1131
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, I know we're not really in on the Packers.

1132
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: This still feels wildly high for matt at least for

1133
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: Matthew Golden.

1134
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 3: I I think it feels about right because there's like

1135
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: you could sell yourself a pick like there's upside here

1136
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 3: and stuff. But yeah, I guess I think it's too

1137
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 3: high because I'm not taking like like Ricky Piersall goes

1138
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 3: right ahead of him. I'd rather that a Brandon Ayuk

1139
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 3: is going wide receiver forty six, I am taking him

1140
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 3: all day at that college. Yeah, yeah, Like to me,

1141
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers receivers are the best bargain at

1142
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 3: this PA, like as a whole, because the earliest ADP

1143
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,439
Speaker 3: is Juwan Jennings at wide receiver thirty five right now,

1144
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: and then like Steph Diggs is in that range shakir.

1145
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: So it depends on what you want, right Like, I

1146
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 3: think you could make an argument that Golden has that

1147
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: like untapped upside there. We don't know what he is

1148
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: and everything, But there's a lot more like safe, proven

1149
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: players that also have upside that I just find my. Like,

1150
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers guys are are my If they're

1151
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: there in that range, I'm taking them.

1152
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1153
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I think the last year was not a

1154
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: great year for the forty nine ers.

1155
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: A lot of guys were injured, they didn't play particularly well,

1156
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: and I think that has scared a lot of people away.

1157
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: At a lot of their current ADPs. I'm buying just

1158
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: because I believe that they're still talent there. It's just

1159
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: about keeping guys healthy and they're gonna They're gonna come back.

1160
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: Uh lakwan.

1161
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is wide receiver forty nine. Yeah, I'm too high,

1162
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: too long.

1163
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 5: Listen man, listen.

1164
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 4: I will say this, if you were interested in drafting

1165
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and wide receiver forty six, I would say this,

1166
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: just make sure your other wide receivers are healthy. They're

1167
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 4: on a team that actually have some type of assignments

1168
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 4: and roles of who's playing what in the company quarterback

1169
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 4: that doesn't fall off a cliff.

1170
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Why are you talking about the Seahawks Like they just

1171
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: met in the parking lot before the game in the

1172
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: side of the show up and play. They're faal team

1173
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: with coaches and planning and we're gonna za Like, what

1174
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

1175
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 5: Listen?

1176
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 4: Cup saw Us smacked him twice a year every year

1177
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 4: for years, and he chose that destination to go to.

1178
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 5: That is his fault.

1179
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 4: I am not drafting him this year. Honestly, I rather pivot.

1180
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 4: I'll pivot. I don't see much of it like a

1181
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 4: wide receiver wanted him anymore, which sounds crazy coming out

1182
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 4: of my mouth.

1183
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 5: But for the past seasons, I.

1184
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: Don't think he's a wide receiver one. I don't don't

1185
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: think so at all. Which, by the way, you like,

1186
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: we smacked them twice a year for a number of years.

1187
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: Last year you split, two years ago, left, two years ago,

1188
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: you swept, three years ago you got swept.

1189
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 2: Like this is not like smarket.

1190
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 5: Yes, relaxed like Jill.

1191
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a joke from the Simpsons, like,

1192
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: oh yeah, those losers in Shelbyville. We beat them half

1193
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 1: the time anyway, Like means you lose them half the

1194
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: time too, Like what are we doing?

1195
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 5: We have we have more success? How about that? We

1196
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 5: got a ring? How about that?

1197
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: All right?

1198
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean that's fine, but it's not like you smacked

1199
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: them twice a year every year.

1200
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: They're in the Cardinals bag. They're the little brother and

1201
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: then talks cramp to you like yeah, yeah, yeah, you

1202
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 4: punch him in the arm real hard and I get away.

1203
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:14,399
Speaker 2: All right.

1204
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 4: That's just what they are. I mean, they get lucky.

1205
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 4: Sometimes every dog has their day.

1206
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: That's it. Okay, that heard this tweet. He's Kurt Cobain.

1207
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the tweet going around since he looks like

1208
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: Kurt Cobain now Kirk Cooper.

1209
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: Hair, the new hair.

1210
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 5: It looks like he hasn't showered in like a week.

1211
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1212
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 1: He's he's about to join a Pearl Jam cover band.

1213
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: You know.

1214
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: It's like this is gonna do. It's gonna be great.

1215
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: Last one year for you. Florio Xavier to get wide

1216
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: receiver sixty five, which feels low considering he makes a

1217
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: cameo in a new Glorilla video like What's going on

1218
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: with Danny has some.

1219
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 3: Love for that, and he makes a cameo on our

1220
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: show as well, yes summer, So I'm saying, uh, take him.

1221
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 3: I will say though, like this might sound crazy, but

1222
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: there's a lot of wide receivers. I like going wide,

1223
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 3: like Kyle Williams's wide receiver fifty eight, MIMS is fifty

1224
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 3: nine Hollywood Brown to me at sixty two is an

1225
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: auto draft every time I'm up and he's there, Like

1226
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 3: I like just Palmer at sixty four, Loget sixty five,

1227
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 3: Like there's still talent to be had here. So yeah,

1228
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm in on Xavier to get at that cost.

1229
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's sixty five. I think that's that's

1230
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: kind of a no brainer. I mean, yeah, I know

1231
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: we're excited about Ted McMillan, but it was Leaguet that

1232
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: led the team in both targets and catches last year

1233
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 1: as they're trying to figure things out down there in Carolina.

1234
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 2: But you know, you should get the bump for being in.

1235
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: A Glorida Glorilla video where it looks like he's about

1236
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: to like look up a glow video.

1237
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you didn't tell us when he was on

1238
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 2: the show. I feel like I feel like he held

1239
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: out on us.

1240
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: Man.

1241
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: I thought we were cool, but apparently or he.

1242
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 5: Couldn't tell us. He couldn't tell us some people.

1243
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 4: You know, it wouldn't be a surprise project because was

1244
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: about to drop.

1245
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 5: So I know this summer is going to be all crazy.

1246
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 3: I don't lie it. On my Instagram it said her

1247
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: and exavierly Get and I still was like, wait, xavierly

1248
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: Gets in her music video. Yeah I saw the name.

1249
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: I still believe it.

1250
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 2: Oh man?

1251
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, but yeah, friend of the show and obviously

1252
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: now a guy.

1253
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 2: Who's making appearances in music videos. Uh so that's actually

1254
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: I huh.

1255
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: I actually went to type it in Google and before

1256
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: I could finish it. It's just like auto filled it,

1257
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: said Exavierally get Glorila dating.

1258
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: I knew it.

1259
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's a rumor. Nobody knows. Basically because

1260
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: he's in the video. People are like, are they dating?

1261
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,439
Speaker 1: But no one has confirmed anything just yet.

1262
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 5: What would their couple name being? Do people still do that?

1263
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the couple's ever come up

1264
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: with names. I think it's just the the paparazzi.

1265
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, Gully, I.

1266
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 2: Don't know, Like I don't know, Yeah, Glow get that.

1267
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: That's weird. We'll work shot that.

1268
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: We'll keep work shopping that and try to figure out

1269
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: something later on in the summer.

1270
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: A little bit of a housekeeping.

1271
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: For you as the the leaf blowers come by as

1272
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: we wrap things up here.

1273
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: No cheat sheet coming up this week. We'll be back

1274
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: with you next Tuesday.

1275
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: We will probably do some sort of mock draft something

1276
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: or rather next week as well, but summer vacations happening,

1277
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: guys are spreading all a little bit about the winds.

1278
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: So no cheat sheet on on Thursday. Back with you

1279
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: next tuesday as well, So there you go. I'll do

1280
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: it for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast,

1281
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: The Happy, Safe and Healthy, do good and live well.

1282
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: Watch out for leaf blowers, everybody, and we will talk

1283
00:59:45,640 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: to you again next week. Wo don't count help Bob'll

1284
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: count help books all the t