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Speaker 1: a special Christmas treat. It is because it's December. It

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Speaker 1: is December December. Here we are Titans reading themselves to

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Speaker 1: go to Philadelphia. The Eggles, as they say up there.

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Speaker 1: The Iggles are ten and one plus thirteen in turnover ratio,

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Speaker 1: averaging three hundred eighty two yards per game on offense,

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Speaker 1: one sixty three on the ground, two twenty through the air.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts has thrown for over twenty five hundred yards

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Speaker 1: seventeen touchdowns just three interceptions. He has been sacked twenty

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Speaker 1: eight times. Miles Sanders has rushed for nine hundred yards

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Speaker 1: and eight touchdowns. Jalen Hurts has rushed for nearly six

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Speaker 1: hundred yards and eight touchdowns. DeVante Smith is the leading

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Speaker 1: receiver with fifty six catches for over six hundred yards

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Speaker 1: and three scores. A J. Brown fifty three catches, eight

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Speaker 1: good kicker in Jake Elliott, pro bowler last year. Aaron

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to punt a lot. Assan Raddick, who's from Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: back back in his hometown after leaving Carolina, leads them

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Speaker 1: with eight sacks. Javon Hargrave, the former Steeler, with seven.

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Speaker 1: Chauncey Gardner Johnson leads the NFL in sacks with six,

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Speaker 1: but we will not see him this weekend. Yeah, he's hurt.

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Speaker 1: He's hurt. So the only loss for this team came

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Speaker 1: on November fourteenth, when they fell to Washington thirty two

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Speaker 1: to twenty one. They have won at Detroit, over Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: at Washington, over Jacksonville, at Arizona over Dallas, Pittsburgh, at Houston,

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Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, we're the only ones in the ANFC

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Speaker 1: their gigantic defensive tackle Jordan Davis, the rookie from Georgia. Yes,

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Speaker 1: six six, three thirty six. He may be back for

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Speaker 1: this game. Man to sing again, big man. He's a bit,

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Speaker 1: He's a large individual. So that's that's your update on

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. The Titans have a weird history with the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: The first time, the first time ever that this organization

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Speaker 1: one yea September thirty, twenty eighteen. The only loss during

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Speaker 1: seemed so terrible on that day. I mean, people went

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Speaker 1: Titans won big because Dennis Kelly was here for five

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Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly one of the really great guys and a

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Speaker 1: all the talent in the world, but didn't all come together.

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Speaker 1: Day twenty seven ten, the Titans and the Eagles make

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Speaker 1: good dealing. So, in essence, the Titans traded a j

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Speaker 1: That's what he wanted. He wanted that money right now,

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Speaker 1: Nicholas petit Frere, who has been quietly really good at

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Speaker 1: so you see things in a very different way than

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Speaker 1: someone like a John Robinson who is so ingrained and

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Speaker 1: entrenched in football. It's it's an interesting way of kind

428
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Speaker 1: of putting together a group, and I think that's how

429
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Speaker 1: we've gotten so many great players over the years. All right,

430
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Speaker 1: so are you interested in this? Yes, okay, I thought. So.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting is right now, Euston has the number one

432
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Speaker 1: pick because they're one nine and one. They would also

433
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Speaker 1: have the tenth pick from Cleveland for the Deshaun Watson trade. Yep,

434
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Speaker 1: Detroit has the third pick from the Rams. The Rams

435
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Speaker 1: would have the third pick right now, so Detroit has

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Speaker 1: that pick. Detroit also has their own pick at number thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Seattle has Denver's pick from the Russell Wilson deal at

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Speaker 1: number four. Philadelphia has New Orleans pick. Well, that just

439
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: doesn't even see him, right. Yeah, there's a lot. There

440
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams with a lot of draft capital,

441
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Speaker 1: teams with no first round pick, the Rams, the Saints,

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Miami does not have a pick because they

443
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Speaker 1: were stripped for tanking games, so they're only thirty one

444
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Speaker 1: first round picks this year. San Francisco doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: pick until the third round. Here's a question, sure, are

446
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Speaker 1: there so many teams with a lot of draft capital,

447
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: because in the last couple years, because money has been

448
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 1: a little wonky due to the changes in the cap

449
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: and all the different things that are COVID and beyond,

450
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: there were more trades of draft picks made. Well, I'll

451
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: give you this example a rhet chime in if you would.

452
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: The Rams were an all in, we're going for it

453
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 1: now type of thing. Yeah, and they're gonna have some

454
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: cap problems going forward. Hated him, but yes, yes, it

455
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: paid off. Really is going to have the cap problems.

456
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: The Saints, who had to be all in at a

457
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Speaker 1: moment because they built a team around Drew Brees and

458
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: then that team has still been together and they're older,

459
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: so that's why they've been all in. Cleveland wanted to

460
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson period. Miami has made a couple of trades,

461
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: you know, the Tyree Hill thing. They've been trying to

462
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: acquire assets to run what they want. San Francisco went

463
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: up to get a young quarterback in trade lance, and

464
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: then they've traded for Christian McCaffrey too. So I don't

465
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: know that it necessarily applies. I think some teams have

466
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,959
Speaker 1: been willing to do it because they were trying to

467
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Speaker 1: free cap Ram. And then some teams have done kind

468
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 1: of the New York Yankee Los Angeles Dodger thing where

469
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: they throw all in. They're trying to build a super

470
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: sticks yeah, and see if it sticks. Here's the thing

471
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: about the Rams didn't worked. It worked, Yeah, they got

472
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Speaker 1: to have a parade. Now they're going to be the

473
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Speaker 1: worst NFL World champion in history in their season post

474
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: most championship. Yeah, they're on the track for that. But

475
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: if you're a Rams fan, do you really care? Got

476
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: a ring? Who cares? Yeah? I mean that is my

477
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: feeling through and through. I mean, if you can win

478
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Speaker 1: a ring, I mean, just looking at how hard it

479
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: is to win a ring. I mean, here's Aaron Rodgers,

480
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: four time MVP, eighteen years in the lake. He's won

481
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: one yep one time, one Super Bowl championship, and you

482
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: can go down the line. I mean, Tom Brady went

483
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: ten years between number three and number four. That's wild. Yeah,

484
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: everybody thinks, well New England just dominate. Well they were great,

485
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: but for ten years they didn't win one. So yeah,

486
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean, whatever it takes to win one is what

487
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: you do. I care very much about winning a ring.

488
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: I care very little about what happens after that. That

489
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: is just how a bad day. You'll say, Hey, let's

490
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: pull out the pictures of the parade. Yeah, remember that

491
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: time we won the Super Bowl. Yeah, the Lombardi Trophy

492
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Speaker 1: when we were world champions. Yes that you know the

493
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: old franchises. When you go there, they list themselves not

494
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: a super Bowl champion, Oh no, no, world world Oh

495
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: we will be world champions. We've got to be world

496
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Speaker 1: champions one winning the Super Bolt swell, yeah, I want

497
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: to be a champion of the world, the world, the

498
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: whole world. Well, if you win the national championship in

499
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: college football in the Fiesta Bowl, you don't go around

500
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: to go we're a Fiesta Bowl champions, you're national champions. Yeah.

501
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: So world champion one. H all right. So the first

502
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Speaker 1: player that Dane Brugler has in the draft is a

503
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Speaker 1: quarterback for the Houston Texans. He has them taking Bryce

504
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Young Alabama. Oh you like that, I can see it.

505
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't like that. I think Bryce Young to me

506
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: is the best looking pro prospect of all those guys.

507
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: I mean I see him do things just crazy, yes,

508
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: just absolutely insane. And he's smart and he just always

509
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: seems like he's on the right page. Everybody questions his

510
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: size though he is not a very thick individual. He is.

511
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Speaker 1: He is a little bit slight. Well, but there's so

512
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: many tiny quarterbacks. Well but yeah, but they're they're they're thick.

513
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray's real thick. Yeah. I just was

514
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: struck by how small he is. I didn't notice his

515
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: but he saw young. Wilson is right, but Bryce Young

516
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: is lean. He's very lean, and so do you worry

517
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: about that, like his longevity? Well, do you take c. J.

518
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: Stroud from Ohio State over him, because I mean, I

519
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: think that's going to be the biggest question about Bryce,

520
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: Or do you take a left tackle at pick ten

521
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: because you've got to protect that investment if you take

522
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: him at once. Well, it's funny they do in this

523
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: in this you're good at this right in this mock draft,

524
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Houston with their pick from Cleveland takes Peter Scronsky, offensive

525
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: tackle guard from Northwestern, So that's what they had there.

526
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Speaker 1: We go at number two, an Alabama player goes to Chicago.

527
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: Will Anderson junior the edge rass so Alabama. According to

528
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Speaker 1: the Dane Brugler mock. First two players off the board

529
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: player Detroit from the Los Angeles Rams, Jalen Carter defensive

530
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: tackle Georgia. Fourth pick Seattle from Denver. Miles Murphy edge

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Speaker 1: from Clemson. Carolina takes c. J. Stroud quarterback Ohio State.

532
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: At number five. Philadelphia from New Orleans takes Brian Breesy

533
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle Clemson at six. At seven, Paris Johnson o

534
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: tackle Ohio State to Arizona. At eight, Dan Brugler has

535
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: Green Bay taking Tyree Wilson defensive lineman Texas Tech. At nine,

536
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: Las Vegas takes Christian Gonzales cornerback Oregon. And I mentioned

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Speaker 1: that Scronsky, the offensive tackle from Northwestern, goes ten. Not

538
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: so much skill, not early, not early that he has

539
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Indianapolis taking Will Levis, the quarterback from Kentucky who has

540
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: declared has declared yes, I don't think he'll even play

541
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Speaker 1: in the bowl game. I wouldn't. I wouldn't either if

542
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: I were him. Atlanta takes Jared Verse an edge from

543
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Florida State. Interesting thing about Jared Verse, he was at

544
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: Albany and transferred. He became a thing and transferred to

545
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: Florida State and then went and had a great year

546
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: at Florida State. Dude, if I'm in Albany, I'm transferring

547
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: to Florida too. That's like upgrade. So right now, the

548
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Titans would pick twenty sixth. He has the Titans taking

549
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: Darnielle Washington tight end, Georgia six seven, two hundred seventy

550
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: pound tight end. I don't hate that. Well, it's not

551
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: crazy because neither Swam nor Hooper are guaranteed to be back.

552
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: So I don't think the Titans would probably take a

553
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: tight end unless it was just somebody they said, this

554
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: guy is the next to me, that's an offensive lineman,

555
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: pick Ronkowski, you know, and unless unless it's just somebody

556
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: you say, this guy is so good, Yeah, we can't

557
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: pass him up, and that happened. But yeah, I mean,

558
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: I would think if you're picking right there, you're probably

559
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 1: looking for a tackle. Yeah, yeah, right now, right yeah,

560
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: And I think so too. But I don't hate the

561
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: tight end thing. I don't either. I could get on

562
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: board with that. A couple more interesting ones. At number thirty,

563
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: Kansas City selects Jalen High at wide receiver Tennessee WHOA

564
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: and the draft in Kansas City too, So can you

565
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: watch what that would be like? And then with the

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Speaker 1: last pick of the first round, according to Dave Dane

567
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: Brugler of the Athletics Latest Mock, Jamir Gibbs running back

568
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: Alabama to Philadelphia j GiB Oh my, I like Jamir

569
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Speaker 1: GiB Can you think of that? So you're talking Jalen

570
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Hurts in this scenario, Jalen Gibbs, Kenneth Gainewell from Memphis,

571
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: Jamir Gibbs, Kenneth Gainwell from Memphis, and Miles Sanders, Hello,

572
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Who did you say the Eagles took

573
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: High up? They took Brian Breecy, the defensive tackle from Clemson,

574
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that you said that, tying it into

575
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: this week's opponent. Twenty twenty three free agents for the

576
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles Fletcher Cox Yes, Robert Quinn Yes, Brendan Graham,

577
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave, and Dominican sue Lyn Vaal, Joseph. You know

578
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: what all but five of the six guys have in

579
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: common right there. Besides they play for the Eagles. They're big.

580
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Well that too. Yeah, they're all over thirty. Yeah, they

581
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: they they have some age up front. Well, and that's

582
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: why they signed Joseph and Sue. I mean they're going

583
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Speaker 1: all in for it. Yes, we're gonna see Sunday is

584
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: going all in. It's the Monstars. Well, because their quarterbacks

585
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: playing great right now. They've they've made these trade. You know,

586
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: they drafted a Heisman Trophy winner in DeVante Smith. They

587
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: trade for a j Brown and give him a boatload

588
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: of money that for the first two years of the

589
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 1: contract is I mean, it's a boatload of money. Um.

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00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 1: You know, he's playing eighty four percent of the snaps

591
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: right now, for which last year for the Titans he

592
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: played fifty one of the snaps. So they're getting their

593
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: money's worth in terms of how much he is on

594
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: the field at this moment. But yeah, I mean when

595
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: they're loading the wagon, they're loading the wagon. They're saying

596
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: why not. It's to a lesser extent what the Kansas

597
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: City Chiefs have done this week by adding Melvin Gordon

598
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: to their practice squad and Brandon Williams, the former Raven

599
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: to their practice squad. It's just a kind of three, right,

600
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: But I mean that's why they're making those moves. Sure,

601
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: we need to say thirty three a little bit nicer.

602
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: We need to use a nicer tone in our voice.

603
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: Thirty three fourteen, See I'm skipping you. So Dane Brugler

604
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: has fourteen of the thirty one players in his latest

605
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: mock coming from the SEC. Surprise five really five of

606
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: them from Georgia again surprise, yeah, not Alabama. Three and

607
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 1: then several schools represented. Obviously Kentucky has represented. South Carolina

608
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: has represented at number nineteen with that corner Cam Smith

609
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: boy like him. Oh, he's a nasty player. Drew Sanders,

610
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: linebacker Arkansas at twenty four to the Giants, Osiris Torrance,

611
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: a guard from Florida at twenty eight to Buffalo. We

612
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: mentioned Jalen Hyatt, the wide receiver from Tennessee. So I

613
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: mean a lot of SEC in this as you would expect,

614
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: and talking about Jalen Hyatt, who has not declared. By

615
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: the way, there's gonna be a lot of University of

616
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: Tennessee volunteers in this upcoming draft. I think there was

617
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: what four invites to the Senior Bowl this week? Yeah,

618
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: does Jim Naggie and his crew have posted, so you know,

619
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: you can tell the program is on the rise because

620
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: the prospects are on the rise. Offense though, yeah, I mean,

621
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: and they're certainly doing a great job on offense. They've

622
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: got to stock up a little more on defense, which

623
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: they're doing a better job of. But I mean, they

624
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: certainly have some offensive talent than Darnell Wright. The tackle

625
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: is going to be a player who will be a

626
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: very interesting pickup for somebody. Don't know if he's a

627
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: first round pick or even a second round pick, but

628
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys. He's a quality player. When

629
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: he moved to right tackle, they have wide receivers, no question.

630
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: And then what is it gonna look like for Hindon Hooker,

631
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Speaker 1: Because here's a guy who there were a lot of

632
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: questions about. Okay, he's twenty five years old and he

633
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: comes back for his sixth year. He has a great year,

634
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: great year, but it's like is he a system quarterback

635
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: or can he make the tight window throws? And now

636
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: with the ACL he's not going to be able to

637
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: work out for anybody. It's just it's really sad because

638
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: I think, and here's the thing, somebody may steal him.

639
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Somebody may steal Hendon Hooker because they you know, he

640
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: doesn't have a chance to work out, and then they

641
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 1: might end up with a I mean, who knows. I mean,

642
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: because there's certainly a lot too the kid. He's bright,

643
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: he's a leader. Guys really follow him, you know, if

644
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: he has the ability like Jalen Hurts. That's why. I mean,

645
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. So Jalen and people forget this. They

646
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: run him off basically at Alabama because to a tongue

647
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: of Iloa takes over as a starting quarterback. What does

648
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: this kid do? He stays at Alabama for that year,

649
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: he didn't quit in the middle of the year. He

650
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: helps him win the SEC Championship, throws only seventy passes.

651
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: He gets better. He goes to Oklahoma, he gets better,

652
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: he goes to the NFL. Clearly, he works like a

653
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: fiend because he is not the same player he was

654
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: five years ago. I contend that Jalen Hurts is like

655
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: that because of who Jalen Hurts is, and I think

656
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 1: that helps Hendon Hooker because of who I believe Hendon

657
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: Hooker is right. Because if if you're a guy who

658
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: loves the game and you're willing to invest, and you say,

659
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: guess what, I know, I've got to improve, I've got

660
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 1: to do things. Because listen, in college, just like high school,

661
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: if you can run around and make plays and you

662
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: can beat somebody, then that's what's the coach is going

663
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: to have you do because you're there to win the game.

664
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: You play to win the game, you know, that's it.

665
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: We get in the NFL and you can't do that,

666
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: so now you have to learn these things. It's why

667
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 1: I continue to be optimistic about Malik Willis because he's

668
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: so willing to learn. Yeah, well, a lot of these

669
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: guys just fold well because it's hard. Well, it's hard,

670
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: and because they've never been through it before. It's hard

671
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: and it's frustrating. And you've been the best at what

672
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: you do since you were probably ten years old, and

673
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: every one of your teammates and everyone you see if

674
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: you get onto the playing field is as big and

675
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: as smart, smart and as strong as fast as you are. Yeah,

676
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: but are you thinking about Hindon Hooker, You think about

677
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: the way he's able to run the ball in space

678
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: and going back to the opponent. This week, Jalen Hurts

679
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: nineteen rushing touchdowns in gold ghost situations in his first

680
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: three seasons in the National Football League nineteen Mike and

681
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: twelve or fifteen on third and one. This year, Yeah,

682
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: he has tried to run the ball fifteen times on

683
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: third and one and he's converted twelve of them. That's

684
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 1: like how Derrick Henry scores touchdowns. Some guys just get

685
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 1: what the game is. The game's getting in the end zone,

686
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: the game's picking up first downs. They just know how

687
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 1: to do that. And some guys just run around trying

688
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: to make a play and you know they can't do it. Yeah,

689
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is a winner. I think Hindon Hooker is

690
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: a winner. And that's why somebody Jalen Hurts went fifty

691
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 1: third overall in the draft after being the runner up

692
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: for the Heisman Trophy and so he was very late

693
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: second round. Could somebody get Hindon Hooker in the same

694
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 1: place and say, oh, or because of the knegue, get

695
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: him in round three? Yeah, and be able to red

696
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: shirt him for a year and give him time and

697
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you found your guy for

698
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: ten years. I like these thoughts. Well, I mean, he's

699
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: a player. You don't step in and do what he

700
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: did and not have something about you now. I think

701
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: Josh Hypel's system is impressive. It's fun to watch, but

702
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: I think there's more to it than just that. I

703
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: think he found the right guy. And had they not

704
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: found the right guy, you know, they might be six

705
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: or seven win team. Again, they probably wouldn't have gone

706
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Speaker 1: to a Bowl last year, and this year they're probably

707
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: a six or seven win team, you know, and instead

708
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Speaker 1: they're a ten win team. Interesting discussion. One other thing

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Speaker 1: I want to share on this edition of the OTP

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711
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712
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713
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Speaker 1: to interview Merrill Reese. Merrill Reese is the voice of

714
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. He has been its December of nineteen

715
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: seventy seven. He is eighty years old and he is

716
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: still just fantastic on the Eagles games. He was part

717
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: of their broadcast team in December of nineteen seventy seven

718
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: when the lead announcer, A guy named Charlie Swift took

719
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: his own life on December seventh, nineteen seventy seven. Four

720
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Speaker 1: days later, Merrill Reese is thrown into the booth to

721
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Speaker 1: take this guy's place, and he's been there ever since.

722
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Speaker 1: Speaking of character, I mean, how do you do? And

723
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Speaker 1: the guy's a friend and is beloved, beloved in Philadelphia

724
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: like Harry Callis was with the Phillies and on and

725
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: on and on. I mean, he and you hear him,

726
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: and it's it takes you back to another time. And

727
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 1: so we want to let you hear him talk about

728
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: the Eagles and just know that, Yeah, I sort of

729
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: fanboy when he's on. I admit it, because he's a

730
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: great guy and he is one of the best of

731
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Speaker 1: the best. This is the octogenarian, the legend, Merrill Reese,

732
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Speaker 1: the voice of the Philadelphia Eagles with us on the OTP. Merrill,

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Speaker 1: you have seen a lot of playmakers in your time

734
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Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Eagles. I want to know how Jalen

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00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: Hurts compares to some of those great playmakers. And can

736
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Speaker 1: you already rank him as he just now starts to

737
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 1: have his career take off. Well, yeah, it's tough Mike

738
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: to start putting rankings this fast. But I think he's

739
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: rug up there with the best. He is the guy

740
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: who has taken the city by storm. And there were

741
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Speaker 1: a lot of people this time last year who were wondering.

742
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Speaker 1: And I wasn't one of them, by the way. I'm

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Speaker 1: somebody who has been a Jalen Hurts fan actually since

744
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: his college days. But there were a lot of people

745
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: who were saying, to the those have a franchised quarterback,

746
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 1: is he their quarterback of the future, and we have

747
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: to wait and see about this. And there were people

748
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: who said, erroneously, I might add that he really didn't

749
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: have the arm strength of a top quarterback in the NFL.

750
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Speaker 1: But the truth of the matter is he has made

751
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: great strides and he is a terrific, terrific quarterback. He's

752
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: very early in his career, this is only his third year,

753
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: but I think he has a very very good chance

754
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: to be one of the eagles best quarterbacks ever. Merrill,

755
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: where do you think Jalen Hurts has improved the most

756
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: since he became a Philadelphia Eagle. Well, two things I

757
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: will mention. One is his decision making. He is able

758
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: to set up make a decision and deliver. He is

759
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: very very good at that and the other he is

760
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: a more accurate passer. He spent less summer with a

761
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: quarterback a rou out in California working on his mechanics,

762
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: and while he has always had the arm strength, he

763
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: is now a much more were accurate passers. That was

764
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: example five Sunday night in the game against the Packers

765
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: where he threw a great back shoulder pass to Ques Watchons.

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Speaker 1: Did the Eagles want Jalen Hurts running as much as

767
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: he has been as of late. That's a good question.

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00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: I mean, do they want him to run seventeen times

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00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: a game? I don't think so. But sometimes you just

770
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: have to give what the defense gives you. You have

771
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: to take what the defense gives you. And that was

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00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 1: the case against the Packers. I mean, they were really

773
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 1: trying to stop the Eagles passing game, and doing so,

774
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: they left some lanes open for Jalen Hurts. And as

775
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've read, he gained one hundred and fifty

776
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Speaker 1: seven rushing guards, which eclips Michael Vick's record of one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty. That's rushing guards by a quarterback in

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00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 1: a single game. That's an Eagles record, but he didn't

779
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: just beat the record, he shattered it. We see A J.

780
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: Brown's numbers this year since being traded to the Eagles

781
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: from the Titans, and he's obviously putting up great numbers.

782
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: Where however, outside of just actual stats, do you think

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00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: he's making the biggest difference in this offense? Meryl, Well,

784
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: he's had a couple of tough games. He's had two fumbles,

785
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: one last week Indianapolis and a fumble that could have

786
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 1: really hurt them in the game against Green Bay. And

787
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 1: that's uncharacteristic of him. But I think a lot of

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00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: that might have been the fact that he has not

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00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: been physically well the last couple of weeks. He seems

790
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: to be coming out of it, but he had kind

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00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: of a flu type thing that kept them out of practice,

792
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: and I don't think he was at full strength, but

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Speaker 1: I think he will be back at full strength of

794
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: this game. And think, and I think you've probably seen

795
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Speaker 1: this also, Mike, when you've watched a J. Brown, he

796
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: is a running back. Once he catches the ball, I mean,

797
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: he is so tough to bring down. He's just a

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00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: great yours after catch producer, just a tremendous player, and

799
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: he is great hands, in great strength. He is an

800
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 1: elite receiver and the Eagles are thrilled to have him.

801
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: So much talk about the Eagles offense and Jalen Hurts

802
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: and Miles Sanders and obviously DeVante Smith and A. J.

803
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: Brown and on and on and on. Are we talking

804
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 1: enough about how good this Eagle's defense has been this year? Merrill? Well,

805
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,399
Speaker 1: they've been good, even though they gave up thirty three

806
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: points Monday night or Sunday night against Bay Packers, but

807
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: they've been pretty good. They were very, very good in Indianapolis.

808
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: They practically shut down the Colts, and they did in

809
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: the second half, limiting them to three points. So they're good.

810
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: They have made some adjustments. Their one Achilles heel has

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Speaker 1: been against the run, but the acquisitions of Lynnville Joseph

812
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: and then Dominican Sue have tightened that up quite a bit.

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00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: So I think they're good. I think Jonathan Ganner, defensive coordinator,

814
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: is a very, very bright coach and you will probably

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Speaker 1: find him as a head coach next year. At the time, Yeah,

816
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: Jonathan was with us for years. Really bright guy. Saw

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00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: it early in his career, especially with some of the

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Speaker 1: coaches he had a chance to be around. He wasn't

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Speaker 1: afraid to try things, He wasn't afraid to make changes.

820
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 1: He was a guy who could be versatile, multiple whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it. Is that what you find

822
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Speaker 1: in watching him as the defensive coordinator with the Eagles. Absolutely,

823
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: he is not a stubborn guy. He looks at what

824
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: he has talent wise, an opponent wise, and then he adapts.

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00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: He is an outstanding defensive coach, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Who has the personality and the leadership qualities. I believe

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Speaker 1: in the communication skills and I think that's very important

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Speaker 1: to become an excellent head coach. Meryl. The pass rush

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Speaker 1: has been such a key for this defense. Who's been

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00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 1: really keying the pass rush overall for the Philadelphia Eagles

831
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Speaker 1: so far in twenty twenty two, Well, it's really a

832
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 1: combination of people. Hassan Reddick has been the leader along

833
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,399
Speaker 1: with Javon Hargrave. They've been the two that have made

834
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Speaker 1: the most noise. But anytime BG, that's Brandon Graham is

835
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 1: in there. He is a possible reacher of the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is a guy who plays with a

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Speaker 1: great motor. Made the biggest play of the game. You

838
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: might think back to Super Bowl fifty two when he

839
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: separated Tom Brady from the ball late in the game.

840
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Speaker 1: But he's a guy who can come in there and

841
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Speaker 1: really excite everybody. The other guy is Josh Swift, number

842
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Speaker 1: ninety four. He is a prolific pass rusher and they

843
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: also picked up several weeks ago Robert Quinn. And Robert

844
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Speaker 1: Quinn is one of six players in NFL history who

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Speaker 1: has a career total of more than one hundred sacks,

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Speaker 1: and so he's still got some juice. Where's number ninety eight,

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Speaker 1: And he's a guy that I think hasn't played a

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Speaker 1: lot since he became an Eagle, but I think that

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Speaker 1: each week he gets more and more reps. I want

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Speaker 1: to go back to Brandon Graham for justice, because when

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Speaker 1: he was in the twenty ten draft, that was the

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Speaker 1: guy we thought the Titans were going to take a

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Speaker 1: number sixteen, and the Eagles took him at number thirteen.

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Speaker 1: He's had this incredibly consistent career, never had double digit sacks,

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Speaker 1: and yet he's always been regarded as a very fine

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Speaker 1: player and really beloved by Eagles fans. What is it

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Speaker 1: about Brandon Graham that has made him so special for

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Speaker 1: that organization and that fan base. You know the funny thing, Mike,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about the draft and you talk about

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Speaker 1: the couple of years after the draft, he was almost

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Speaker 1: viewed by a lot of Eagles fans early in his

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Speaker 1: career as a bust, a first round bust. But he

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Speaker 1: just kept hanging him there and getting better and better

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Speaker 1: and more and more productive to the point where he

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Speaker 1: will one day be in the Philadelphia Eagles Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He is really special and as a person, he just

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Speaker 1: reaches out to the community. He's got this great personality.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loves him. He's nice and respectful to everybody. If

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Speaker 1: you had no Brandon Graham, you want to be with him.

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Speaker 1: He brightens your day. He's got a big smile, he's

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Speaker 1: got a passion for football, and he certainly will go

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Speaker 1: down as one of the great players in Eagles history.

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Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk about this Sunday. What about the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Do you think concerns the Philadelphia Eagles as they dive

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Speaker 1: into preparation for a team that they don't see very often. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think number one of stopping the run. And when

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Speaker 1: you talk about stopping the run. You're talking about one

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Speaker 1: of the best ball carriers International Football League and Derrick Henry,

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Speaker 1: so I think he is the biggest, biggest concern of

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Speaker 1: everybody here. Merril. We're looking forward to seeing you on

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Speaker 1: Sunday at the Link the Titans and the Eagles for

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Speaker 1: a big win. Thank you so much time for taking

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Speaker 1: your time for us. Merril Reese, the voice of the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, My pleasure. Michael always nice to speak with you. Well,

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Speaker 1: that was fun for me. I hope everything I fil

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00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: everyone enjoyed it. You're right, his voice is time capsuled

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Speaker 1: in delivery style, and just in his conversation. I can

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00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: hear him calling horse races. I can hear him calling baseball.

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Speaker 1: I can hear it's the stuff that you and I

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Speaker 1: grew up listening to. Yeah, it's it's the the Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Even going back further, it's you hear the Bill Stern

892
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Speaker 1: influence from forties, and you hear all of these guys

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Speaker 1: from this time that we're just different set. They sounded

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Speaker 1: like an announcer. He sounds like an announcer, very official,

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Speaker 1: very buttoned up, very buttoned up, very matter of fact.

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Speaker 1: Um much better than our kind today. Mike just different, better,

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Speaker 1: just I wish we could be more like that. Well,

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Speaker 1: lock it up. There's an admirable part of that. There

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Speaker 1: is a one to be the quality being that but

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00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: trained and that professional, and he's just he's great and

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Speaker 1: he's a very nice person. Obviously a very magnanimous man

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Speaker 1: to take time with. I mean, why you would talk

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Speaker 1: to me, I don't know, but he did that for

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Speaker 1: us for the verybel show, So very appreciative. All Right,

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Speaker 1: Ready to go to Philly. Ready to go to Philly.

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Speaker 1: Award winning Titans Countdown with Rhett and Amy on the

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Speaker 1: air at eleven am Central. Kick off at twelve o

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Speaker 1: two Central from Lincoln Financial Field the Titans and the

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Speaker 1: ten and one Eagles. Interesting, interesting, interesting. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us for this around the World version

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Speaker 1: of the Official Titans Podcast. For our special guest star

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Speaker 1: Rhett Brian and Amy Wells. I'm Mike Keith. Thanks for

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