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Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtis and I'm Doug Krisner. Here are the

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Speaker 2: stories we're following today.

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Speaker 3: Well tomorrow, we'll see if November's employment report in the

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Speaker 3: United States shows more evidence of a cooling labor market.

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Speaker 3: We'll get the numbers around eight thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Wall Street Time, Bloomberg's Michael McKee, how's a preview.

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Speaker 4: We should be seeing signs of a slowing economy in

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Speaker 4: the labor market, but economists say not just yet. The

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Speaker 4: up while unemployment was unchanged. About thirty thousand jobs won't

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Speaker 4: in healthcare, leisure and hospitality, and government should keep healthy numbers.

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Speaker 4: Beyond manufacturing, markets are pricing a lower than anticipated number, however,

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Speaker 4: so strength could lead to higher rates as investors worry

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Speaker 4: the FED may not yet be done with rate hikes.

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Speaker 1: Michael McKee, Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 2: We go next to Teszla's Dojo supercomputer pro. Now the

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Speaker 2: head of the project, ganesh Venta Katraman, has left the company.

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Speaker 2: The Dojo system if you don't know as a supercomputer

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Speaker 2: made to train machine learning models behind Tesla's self driving systems.

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Speaker 2: Here's Bloomberg's Mark German.

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Speaker 5: They have put a new person in charge named Peter Bannon.

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Speaker 5: He was a former mid double chip executive at Apple.

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Speaker 5: He's now leading the program. And obviously when the head

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Speaker 5: of a blow to the effort. So this is extraordinarily

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Speaker 5: significant news, both within Tesla as well as in the

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Speaker 2: That is Bloomberg's Mark German. There By the way, Tesla's

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Speaker 2: CEO Elon Musk was saying the company is planning to

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Speaker 2: invest more than a billion dollars on Project Dojo by

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Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty four. Shares in Tesla today

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Speaker 2: brian up one point three percent in New York Training.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's take a closer look, doug at Broadcom's earnings.

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Speaker 3: This stock in after hours had been down, but it's

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Speaker 3: Broadcomposted it's slow most sales growth since twenty twenty, as

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Speaker 1: Let's get the story from Bloomberg's Charlie Pillett.

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Speaker 6: Broadcom just completed the acquisition of VMware for more than

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Speaker 2: The US in Mexico will be beating up screening of

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Speaker 7: The Biden administration of Mexico agreed to boost cooperation with

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Speaker 7: without mentioning China by name. The Chargery Apartments, as a

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Speaker 7: group formed with Mexico, will conduct investment reviews, especially in

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Speaker 7: Yellen says working together on financial and regulatory policy can

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Speaker 7: In Washington and Kate's Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 3: US Trade Representative Catherine Tie says the US and Taiwan

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Speaker 8: We are negotiating another set of disciplines right as we speak.

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Speaker 3: Brian, it's time for global news. Let's get right over

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Speaker 3: to Ed Baxter in the nine to sixty news room

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Speaker 10: Ed, all right, Brian, thank you. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Nette,

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Speaker 10: Yahoo is threatened to devastate by Root of Hezbollah opens

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Speaker 10: Bloomberg's Nick Wadams says, complete devastation is the threat.

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Speaker 11: There is a strategy here and that is essentially deterrence.

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Speaker 10: And Bloomberg's Anthony Squasine says the campaign in Gaza itself

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Speaker 10: And says there's no timeline actually spelled out. Meanwhile, the

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Speaker 10: indicating hesitancy and calling for genocide of Jews, violating school policy.

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Speaker 10: Penn president Liz McGill says she was focused in the

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Speaker 13: I want to be clear, a call for genocide of

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Speaker 10: Asia says North Korea has spurned all outreach. Kurt Campbell

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Speaker 10: The debate on deadline, NSC spokesman John Kirby says time

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Speaker 14: We've got a few more weeks here and then we're

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Speaker 10: That Senator Lindsay Graham says, the southern border has to

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Speaker 14: Secure the border before we get attacked, Secure the border

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Speaker 10: Yeah. Meanwhile, LKS Women for the White House Koreane Jean

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's bring in Ian King.

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg News US Semiconductor Reporter for a closer look at

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Speaker 3: Broadcom's earnings and how that feeds into some of the

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Speaker 1: Ian, thanks very much so.

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Speaker 3: The broadcon earning earnings for a little bit lackluster, revenue

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Speaker 16: And there are a lot of moving parts here, as

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Speaker 16: but yes, software also fix that. He said, a lot

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Speaker 16: And when he talks about these other companies, he uses

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Speaker 16: of returns and that's a sensible way. That's the way

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Speaker 2: Oh well, speaking of AI yesterday, Ian, of course, we

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Speaker 16: AMD said it was, and you know, I mean it's

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Speaker 16: that's a massive amount of growth that she's proecting. And

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Speaker 16: she said, she looked to me said, Ian, you know me.

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Speaker 16: You know I don't get carried away with these things.

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Speaker 16: I'm telling you this. I believe it all right.

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