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Speaker 1: Welcome to Massa Territory. Ladies and gentlemen. You know today

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Speaker 1: is a good day. It's a good day today. You

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Speaker 1: the Twitter account back, ladies and gentlemen. I can't believe it.

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Speaker 1: We actually did it. I don't know how it happened. Actually,

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Speaker 1: But today we broke through. It actually worked Twitter. Someone

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. We got a lot of familiar faces

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Speaker 1: Mike Madness. How you doing, everybody? Hello? Hello, Corbin Bosocer,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Yes, bo Soccer? Happy Thanksgiving? I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to have myself a good meal, so but

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Speaker 1: but let's not have Juan Soto to the Red Sox

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Speaker 1: again on Thanksgiving. Remember that last year Juan Soto was

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Speaker 1: But let's not have another episode of that. Let's actually

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Speaker 1: enjoy Thanksgiving tomorrow. And we got some good news here

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Speaker 1: So let's go over Dylan Cees here really quick. We

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Speaker 1: You gotta look more under the hood, right el Right. Sure,

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Speaker 1: get better? And I think that got better as of

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Speaker 1: right now. Fangrafts projects the Red Sox starting pitching at

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Speaker 1: number two. You know, projections are projections, you know. But Fangrafts,

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Speaker 1: you know, they got some pretty smart people over there,

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Speaker 1: and they've done very well over the years. So whatever.

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Speaker 1: You can talk twos and threes all you want, but

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the fact that they got better. They

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Speaker 1: I'm happy with it, man, I'm happy with it. That's

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Speaker 1: with it. Everyone. We are going to move on here.

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Speaker 1: shall we. And also in the chat, I think you

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Speaker 1: pulled up a you put. You made a great point

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Speaker 1: there TD twelve eighty eight. You said here he threw

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Speaker 1: his meatball. Sonny Gray threw his meatball fastball last year,

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Speaker 1: more than his other pitches, including the nasty sweeper. That

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Speaker 1: is a great point. I actually want to point that

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Speaker 1: out really quick about Sunny Gray. I do expect the

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Speaker 1: Red Sox to make some kind of a change now

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the Yankees, you know, change the repertoire

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I could see the Red if they

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Speaker 1: were to make one change with Sonny Gray. I do

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna have him get away from the fastball

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You know, it's it's it's funny because

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Speaker 1: I love doing the reaction streams. I love giving my

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Speaker 1: initial thoughts like yesterday when we went live, but I

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Speaker 1: need more time. I got to dig into these stats

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Speaker 1: a little bit more. But this was one thing I

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Speaker 1: noticed with Gray that I forgot to mention. Last year,

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Speaker 1: batters hit three seventy six against his fastball, five ninety

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Speaker 1: four on the slugging against it. The Red Sox over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years they've gotten away from four seamers,

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Speaker 1: so I fully expect the Red Sox here to have

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Speaker 1: him get away from that four seamer. It had a

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Speaker 1: negative four run value on it, So I could see

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Speaker 1: maybe the Red Sox wanting him to lean more into

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Speaker 1: the sinker. And that'd be great. If he can use

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Speaker 1: the sinker a little bit more, that'll get more ground balls.

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Speaker 1: Especially if Bregman comes back and Marcella Meyers playing second base,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have better defense there. Story he's gonna have

501
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Speaker 1: to fix something there. Let's see what happens at first base.

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Speaker 1: But I could see them going more towards the sinker.

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Speaker 1: That was another one where batters were hitting two seventy

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Speaker 1: seven against it. But maybe you know, he can mix

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Speaker 1: some match with the you know, the sinker and the

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Speaker 1: cutter a little bit more. But I do think you're

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Speaker 1: gonna see heavy breaking ball usage from Gray. I mean,

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Speaker 1: lots of sweepers, curve balls, mix in the cutters and

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Speaker 1: the sinkers a little bit more. Maybe you know, put

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Speaker 1: a cup a few fastballs, few four seemers along the way.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I think. I think they'll get

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Speaker 1: away from that four seamer a lot. I think they'll

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Speaker 1: use it in certain counts right to help set up stuff. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that's all for Sonny Gray. Let's talk the bats. We

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Speaker 1: gotta talk to the bats. Ladies and gentlemen. Listen. We

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Speaker 1: talked about this the last couple of episodes. What's gonna

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Speaker 1: be the deal with the bats? What is the plan?

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Speaker 1: We got a report not too long ago, Alex Spear.

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Speaker 1: John Morosi has said at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: one premium bat is most likely. I'm gonna say this,

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Speaker 1: though I did talk about it. I gave a lot

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Speaker 1: of different ideas about if they were to go after

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Speaker 1: one bat. We gave the other couple of nights ago.

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Speaker 1: We came up with a whole bunch of different lineups.

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Speaker 1: Where you brought back Bregman, then you go after a

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Speaker 1: lower tier bat, maybe like Okamoto something like that, or

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Speaker 1: if you went after Alonzo or Schwarber, then maybe you

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Speaker 1: can make a trade for someone like to Tell Marte

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Speaker 1: or Brendan Donovan for example. But my personal thinking is

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Speaker 1: they should just spend the money and go bring back

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Speaker 1: Bregman because he brought so much to the organization, both

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Speaker 1: performance wise and off the field. Great in the clubhouse,

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Speaker 1: he was great with the young guys. I think a

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Speaker 1: role model, kind of a player that you can build

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Speaker 1: around who could still be productive for you obviously, but

536
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Speaker 1: also be a face of the franchise kind of a guy. Right,

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Speaker 1: he'll be front and center to talk to the media,

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Speaker 1: and he'll give you good defense at third base, of course,

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Speaker 1: But my thinking is why get cute here? Why and

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Speaker 1: this is where? And no disrespect to John Morosi Alex Spear,

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Speaker 1: I trust whoever they're talking to out there. But I

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Speaker 1: thought about the word that Alex Spear used and the

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Speaker 1: word suspicion. He said it was his suspicion that they

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Speaker 1: would only go after one bat, and I've sat on

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Speaker 1: that for the last couple of days. And I thought,

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Speaker 1: especially after the Gray move, if if you're not signing

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Speaker 1: cease for example, which now they're not, then you know

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Speaker 1: and you and you just you got Gray on a

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Speaker 1: pretty good deal. You know, the Cardinals paying a lot

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Speaker 1: of it down and they kind of rework the contract

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I believe it's only a twenty one

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Speaker 1: million dollar hit on the payroll. Then why would you

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Speaker 1: not go spend a combined fifty to sixty million for

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Speaker 1: Bregman and Alonso or Schwarber. I think that's the best

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Speaker 1: way to go, to be honest. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: going to spend now, if you want to make the

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Speaker 1: argument about going for one bat on the market and

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Speaker 1: then making a trade for Katel Marte, well then I

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Speaker 1: could be sold on that, right. But that's that's another

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Speaker 1: factor in itself. That's another that's another hoop you got

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Speaker 1: to jump through too, because you got to line up

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Speaker 1: on a trade if the d Bacs want to trade Marte.

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Speaker 1: So I think, if you really want to go for

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Speaker 1: the sure thing, throw down some money on the table

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Speaker 1: and go bring these guys in that want to win.

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Speaker 1: All three of those guys Bregman Schwarber Alonzo. They want

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Speaker 1: to win Bregman. I've been on the record saying I

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Speaker 1: think he's going back to the Red Sox. I think

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Speaker 1: they should. He changed the culture. He completely changed the game.

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Speaker 1: When he came here, you just felt it. You could

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Speaker 1: smell it in the air, you could taste it. It

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Speaker 1: was different. There was something different with Bregman in the

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Speaker 1: air and it was working. Don't fix us, not bro,

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Speaker 1: bring him back. Yeah. I know he had the quad injury,

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Speaker 1: but have you been watching Bregman on Instagram. This guy's

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Speaker 1: been training like a maniac out there. He's been doing

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Speaker 1: front squats too. I'll tell you right now from a

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Speaker 1: man that absolutely hates front squats, those are gonna be

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Speaker 1: great for your quads. So Alex Bregman, he's building up

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Speaker 1: some juicy quads recepts as we speak. You don't gotta

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Speaker 1: worry about that quad moving forward, because he's getting those.

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Speaker 1: He's getting those puppies nice and strong. He's gonna be

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Speaker 1: good to go. I think he's gonna be all right.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry about the quad. Bring back Bregman, you need him.

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Speaker 1: Then you gotta focus on one of these power bats now,

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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, O Kamoto, you know, could you do that?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: Whatever? Could you take a chance on Murakami? Of course

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Speaker 1: you could, of course you could. Well why not? But

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Speaker 1: is that the right way to go for the Red

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Speaker 1: Sox right now? Do you really want to go out

592
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Speaker 1: there and bring in a guy that you just don't know?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Okamoto and Murakami could end up being good talents,

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Speaker 1: but the keyword there is could you know what you're

595
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Speaker 1: getting with Schwarber? You know what you're getting with Alonzo?

596
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Speaker 1: Don't take chances, don't get cute, go out there and

597
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Speaker 1: go get it done. I don't know, like to me.

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Speaker 1: And we just talked with Sam Kennedy here on the

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Speaker 1: channel not too long ago. He said, they want to

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Speaker 1: go out there and win. They are now in this

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Speaker 1: competitive window. It's time to quit the talking. It's time

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Speaker 1: to do the walking. And I just said here, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I said to Sam Kennedy as well, right here

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Speaker 1: on Monster Territory, I said, hey, the Blue Jays, because

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Speaker 1: they're just coming off a World Series appearance, there were

606
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Speaker 1: three outs away from a World Series because of them

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Speaker 1: and what they did this past year. Are you planning

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Speaker 1: to be more aggressive? And he said, hey, Listen, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go out there and we're gonna go. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go try and make some moves. Right. And now you

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Speaker 1: just got the Blue Jays signing Dylan Cees circling back here.

612
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Speaker 1: They just brought in a good guy like him. Well,

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Speaker 1: now you've got to counter with a big bat all right,

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Speaker 1: you got cs He's gonna strike out a lot of batters. Well, uh,

615
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Speaker 1: meet Kyle Schwarber, Meet Pete Alonzo. I think that's a

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Speaker 1: good counter if you ask me. Just saying again, getting

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Speaker 1: back to the Spear and the Morosi reports, I kept

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Speaker 1: thinking about the word suspicion in the end, that's speculative

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Speaker 1: suspicion because it's you're not fully sold, right, But you're

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Speaker 1: thinking maybe that's coming from something. Is that because of

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Speaker 1: the lack of you know, a couple of years ago

622
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Speaker 1: full throttle? Is there's still something lingering there, a little

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Speaker 1: bit where you don't want to go out there and say, Okay,

624
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna go spend, they're gonna go drop all the cash.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he wanted to hold back a little bit. Maybe

626
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Speaker 1: he had heard a couple of things, wasn't fully sold

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Speaker 1: on them, going after a couple of guys. But I

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Speaker 1: think history shows over the years. You can say what

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Speaker 1: you want about John Henry, but every time this team

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Speaker 1: is in a competitive window, they go out there and spend.

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Speaker 1: Especially when they're entering a competitive window. John Henry time

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Speaker 1: and time again has done it. I've talked about this

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Speaker 1: at length. I've talked about it at nauseum. You go

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Speaker 1: back to two thousand and seven, Right, two thousand and

635
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: six ended up being that Briggs year. But when they

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00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: were going back into that window, they went out there

637
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: and got JD Drew, Julio Lugo, Dice, came Atsusaka, They

638
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: went and made the moves. They got Josh Beckett the

639
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: year prior, right to set up for that. I mean

640
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, you know, already had the core there, so

641
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: they kind of filled in at the gaps, right, Napoli,

642
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: Victorino Gomes, Steven Drew twenty eighteen. To as they're going

643
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: into the competitive window, you bring in David Price the

644
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: following year, Chris Saale the following year, Jady Martinez. Right,

645
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: They've done it time and time again. They added last year.

646
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: I fully expect to see them take a step forward

647
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: again this year. I think they will And I don't know,

648
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: Like I think about the report, and I'm not fully

649
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: sold that they're going to hold back. Could it end

650
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: up being where they get Alonzo, Bregman, Schwarber one of

651
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: them and then they go after someone lower tier. Yeah,

652
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: But I think, to me, when the opportunity is right

653
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: there to spend some cash to go get two of

654
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 1: those out of those three, Bregman and Alonzo or Schwarber,

655
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 1: I think you gotta do it. Jared Carabas he said

656
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: on the Baseball Is Dead podcast today, he was giving

657
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 1: you a little bit of a tidbit. He was kind

658
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: of suggesting something. I don't know if anyone caught it.

659
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: He was when he was talking about Sonny Gray. He

660
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: said that maybe he had heard a couple of things

661
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: out there and said some meetings with a certain player

662
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: Bregman and whoever that other player or agent is. He

663
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: said meetings were going well. Well, Carabas knows things. He's

664
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: got some scoopy scoops out there, and you know again,

665
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: but then I just think back to the report. I

666
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: was never sold of the word suspicion because to me,

667
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: there is that's subjective and opinions are coming into play.

668
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: With that. It was never a solid fact to me.

669
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: They never fully said that they couldn't go after two

670
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: of the bats when it clearly makes a lot of sense. Bregman,

671
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: you bring back for a multitude of reasons. Schoorber or

672
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: Alonzo you bring in for one reason and one reason

673
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: only Dingers. They were bottom ten and home runs after

674
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Rafi last year. You need power and you could you

675
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: get that from Okamoto? Sure, could you get that from Murakami, Sure,

676
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: but it's could you know what you will get with

677
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Alonzo and Schwarber. So we'll see, we'll see.

678
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: In the end.

679
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: We can only sit here and speculate. But we did

680
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: have this from Jen McCaffrey. She also was saying this here.

681
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Pete Alonzo and Kyle Schwarber remain in the mix in

682
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: addition to a reunion with Alex Bregman. But Breslo described

683
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: free agent talks with hitters still pretty early on that front,

684
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 1: noting free agents are getting a feel for the market

685
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: and it is early. It is you know, we can

686
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: sit here and say, come on, go make the moves right. Well, hey,

687
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: these players they're living their own lives. At the end

688
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: of the day, they're looking for contracts. They're looking for

689
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,439
Speaker 1: long term homes there. They don't care what you think,

690
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: and that they don't care how angry you get that

691
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: that the Red Sox haven't signed them yet, that they

692
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: could care less. Right, they're out there living their life

693
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: and their agents are doing the work, and that's why

694
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: they're paying the agents the big bucks to get them

695
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: the deals. Right, So it's gonna take time. Right now,

696
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm at like the other day when we

697
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: were talking about that the Morosi Spear reports, I was

698
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty I feel like now personally based off

699
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: of what I've read and you know, kind of getting

700
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: a feel, you know, talking to a couple of people.

701
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, I'm at like, I don't know,

702
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: maybe like a more so a sixty forty fifty five,

703
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: forty five somewhere around there. I think it's like this

704
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: article says here, it is still early. It's still just

705
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: it's too early to tell. You gotta wait, you gotta

706
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: wait for things to materialize. But I do think Dylan

707
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 1: Ceese coming off the board, I know that's a picture,

708
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: but still teams have needs and Dylan Ceese, you know,

709
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: teams are gonna start pivoting now, and that's gonna be

710
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: one domino that falls, and that could make another domino fall. Right,

711
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna start seeing some action. I

712
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: think more winter for me, Pee Alonzo, Kyle Schwarber. I

713
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: feel like winter meetings. I don't know. That's not off

714
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: of anything I've heard. That's more of a gut feeling.

715
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just feels like winter meetings for

716
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 1: one of those guys, you know, kind of that sweet

717
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: spot of the offseason right where they kind of want

718
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: to get stuff figured out. Pete Alonso, I don't think

719
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 1: he's gonna wait a long time to want to get

720
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: something done. I think he wants to find his home.

721
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: He spent all last offseason not getting a deal, you know,

722
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: until late. I think he wants to get it figured out. Schwarber.

723
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: Schwarber is what he is. At this point. You know,

724
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: you're getting a lot of dangers with Schwarber. I don't

725
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 1: see why you have to kind of tap dance around it.

726
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna give you immediate power. His skill

727
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: set is there, you know what he is. I don't

728
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: think you really need to wait around a whole lot

729
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: for him, But I think over the next couple of weeks,

730
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: I think you could see something. And I think Winter

731
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: Meetings feels about right, So we'll see. But those are

732
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: my thoughts. Still haven't fully heard anything yet, but I

733
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,760
Speaker 1: think you are starting to maybe see some good signs.

734
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: And again, and I talked about this with the Gray trade,

735
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: I think the fact that you didn't really give up

736
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: a whole lot of assets to go acquire him, as

737
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: well as money, I think suggests that the Red Sox

738
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: could be big players for a couple of big signings

739
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: or a big signing and a big trade. They can

740
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: do a lot of things right now. And the Red

741
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: Sox they have good leverage right now. They're in a

742
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: good spot. They just are. I think they that they

743
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: crossed off an item on the list with Gray by

744
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: bringing in good insurance, and I think it was a

745
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: smart move on their end because they got that done,

746
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: because you don't sounds like to me, you're still waiting

747
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: for this market to unfold, and the Red Sox they

748
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: saw an opportunity. Craig breslo he saw Sonny Gray available,

749
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: there was probably some movement with other teams, and he thought,

750
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: you know what, the Twins they're being fickle when it

751
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: comes to Joe Ryan, the Brewers not committing on trading Peralta.

752
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: But Gray, we know can get moved. Let's go get him,

753
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: let's go figure that out. And he got it done

754
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: instead of waiting around. Because when you wait around, you

755
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: can miss an opportunity. So I think that was a

756
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: good move. And people are saying, you know, yesterday, oh man, well,

757
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: you know he's not defining what you know, who the

758
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: number two is and whatever, and you know they're getting

759
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 1: onto his answer saying, oh well, I don't think it's

760
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,479
Speaker 1: appropriate to name a number two right now. I think

761
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: in a way that I look at that positively. I

762
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: think the fact that he is not committing to what

763
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: the order of the rotation is right now, that's a

764
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: positive because he's keeping open the possibility that something can happen.

765
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: He's waiting for the market to unfold. He doesn't know,

766
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: so it's like, just let it happen. I think getting

767
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: great right now is a good insurance policy. He's he

768
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: the best number two you could get. I think you

769
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: can make an argument to go maybe get a little

770
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: bit better in that spot. I think he's an OK

771
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: number two. I don't think he's the best number two.

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00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: That's what I think. I think he just good a

773
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: chance on it while he could, instead of sitting around

774
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: on his hands, and then all of a sudden he

775
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: he misses other opportunities, right, or other things just don't happen.

776
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: He was decisive, and I like that, but I wouldn't

777
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: look at it negatively that he's saying, oh, well, I

778
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: don't think it's appropriate to name the number two. Just wait.

779
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: That could mean that maybe something else could happen. You know,

780
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: you don't know what the roster is going to look like.

781
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: There's so much off season left. So that's where I'm at.

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00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just rambling at this point. I'm

783
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: gonna wrap it up right there. Ladies and gentlemen, if

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Speaker 1: Alright, I'm gonna get out of here, ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: I do see a lot of you still in the chat.

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Speaker 1: What have we got here? Brady four k Skens isn't

812
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: getting traded. Unfortunately, they're not trading him. Nick Barrett MLB

813
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: would probably veto that trade oh for Skien. Yeah, I

814
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: don't think Skeen's is going anywhere now. The pirates they

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00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,359
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Speaker 1: I think they give it a couple of years before

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Speaker 1: they That's when I think you can't let that value

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Speaker 1: go down anymore. I think you got to wait at

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820
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: I saw people out there saying that Sonny Gray was

821
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: simply a swap for Geledo. No, No, Sonny Gray is

822
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: so much better. I love what Geolito did this past year,

823
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: but holy cow, Gray, what's under the hood is far

824
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: better than what Geolito did. No offense to Gealldo. He

825
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: was solid and I love what he did. He was

826
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: a competitor last year. But Gray is gonna give you

827
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: more upside there. I saw people tweeting about it yesterday

828
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are we talking about? No, No, TD,

829
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 1: Joe Ryan, I mean, listen, it comes down to, you know,

830
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 1: do they want to move them. I don't know at

831
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: this point. I don't think anything happens with the rotation

832
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: until down the road if it does, because I mean,

833
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: you got Gray. You don't have to worry about it.

834
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: You got to start focusing on what you need. You

835
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: have a lot of pitching there. There's a lot of it.

836
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: Peyton totally, Connolly early, They could be guys, they could

837
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: be dudes. You got Crutter, Crawford coming back, Patrick Sandoval

838
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: coming back, obviously Bao Or hoping he could take a

839
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: step forward. But you got a lot of arms there.

840
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: You don't need to focus on the rotation right now.

841
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: They need to bring in a bat. They don't have

842
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: any other bats that could, you know, besides Cassus for

843
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: the middle of the order that could maybe be an

844
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: impact guy. You've got no one else right now, so

845
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: you need to go address the power. You have to.

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Speaker 1: There's no at least with the pitching you have guys.

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Speaker 1: You have dudes that you could fall back on possibly

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Speaker 1: to take a step forward. You don't have that with

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Speaker 1: with a power hitter right now. You know. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: got Yo Stinson. I don't know, I don't know, it's

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Speaker 1: he's a what if you know, you don't know costas,

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Speaker 1: you don't know. You need to go get a sure

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Speaker 1: thing for the power Tyler, would you rather trade for Schooble?

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Speaker 1: And try to extend him like Crochet or try to

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Speaker 1: sign him next off season. I wouldn't trade for schoobl

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Speaker 1: to be honest. You've got the farm system in a

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Speaker 1: good place. I don't think you should blow it up

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Speaker 1: from one year, to be honest. If there are a

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Speaker 1: couple of years on it, you can make that argument

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Speaker 1: because then you have at least a draft in the mix.

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Speaker 1: There a couple of drafts where you could replenish. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't do it because it's going to be expensive for

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Speaker 1: one year. Any chance we get Bregman plus two free

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Speaker 1: agent bats, I think Bregman in one maybe two mid

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Speaker 1: tier bats. I think it's either going to be Bregman

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Speaker 1: and Schwarber or Alonso or Bregman a mid tier bat

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Speaker 1: and then another trade. I think it's gonna be one

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Speaker 1: of those. It's kind of where I'm at, Tyler. I

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Speaker 1: think we need to go all in on our next

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Speaker 1: off season. We'll see John Henry will he want to

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Speaker 1: give out the richest contract for a picture in Major

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Speaker 1: League history. I don't know. Doesn't sound like something John

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Speaker 1: Henry would do. I mean, he did pay David Price

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Speaker 1: the big money. Maybe we'll see. We'll see what else

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Speaker 1: we got? B Snyde. I love gray Way more than Gioledo. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do too. Again, I love gi Alito, So I

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Speaker 1: kind of hate saying that, but that's where I'm at. Money,

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Speaker 1: Mike Bowhm at first base. You know, could Alec Bohm

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Speaker 1: be a possible fallback at some point the right handed

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Speaker 1: bat of Famiway Park. I think maybe possibly we'll see

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Speaker 1: a lot off season left. Ladies and gentlemen, we're only

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Speaker 1: just getting into it. But everyone, go enjoy your Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: Go enjoy family time tomorrow. Please avoid anyone named Mick

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Speaker 1: on social media. Avoid anyone at all named Mick. Don't

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Speaker 1: do it. I can't do the Wan Soto thing again. Nope,

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Speaker 1: not doing that. I'm gonna enjoy my turkey, my mashed potatoes,

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Speaker 1: my carrots, or whatever the heck the heck else I'm

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Speaker 1: eating tomorrow. I'm gonna focus on that and all the dessert.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna be focusing on. Mick, You're not

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Speaker 1: gonna fool me this time. But everybody, I'm out of here.

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Speaker 1: Go enjoy your Thanksgiving and we'll talk to you next time.

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Speaker 1: Rot down the f