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Speaker 1: Amy Wells, Mike Keith, Indianapolis, the twenty twenty two NFL

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Speaker 1: Scouting Combine, Amy Wells. Wednesday was a busy day for

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Speaker 1: us here. It was a busy day. Head coach Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: the scouting combine into Titans World a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: who came into Titans World four years ago as the

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Speaker 1: head coach, Mike Vrabel. He walked into our building yesterday

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Speaker 1: ot Mike Grabel has been working hard in Indianapolis, doing

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Speaker 1: a lot of things on behalf of the Tennessee Titans,

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Speaker 1: but also on behalf of the NFL Competition Committee. Work

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Speaker 1: a lot of work, a lot of meetings, right, there's

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Speaker 1: you kind of evaluate some of the things that come

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Speaker 1: across your desk as a part of the competition. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's always important when you make decisions,

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Speaker 1: Much discussion about making the punt play safer. Would that

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Speaker 1: there other options? Well, there's there's a lot options. I

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel always direct and to the point. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: You get the same thing from Charles Davis, our longtime friend.

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Speaker 1: Covering this the twenty twenty two NFL Scouting Combine. This

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Speaker 1: And Harold's an important resource for us and we want

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Speaker 1: to try to keep him. He's tough, he's smart, he

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Speaker 1: works hard, he's been a productive player for us. So

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Speaker 1: I will continue those conversations and hopefully we can get

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Speaker 1: to a resolution. How do you balance wanting to preserve

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Speaker 1: what has been a successful roster and keep those main pieces,

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Speaker 1: but also acknowledge that maybe there can be a benefit

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Speaker 1: to infusing some outside blood into a locker room. Yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: those are always hard decisions. You know, the decision that

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Speaker 1: we made on Jarell Casey. I love Jirell. That was

438
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Speaker 1: a hard decision that we had to make, but one

439
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Speaker 1: that we felt was best for the team at the

440
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Speaker 1: end of the day. There's you know, those are the

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Speaker 1: decisions that we face now as an organization. After you know,

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Speaker 1: having six straight winning seasons, We've got a lot of

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got good football players, and there's there's

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Speaker 1: other teams that want to get those players and try

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Speaker 1: to get them on their team, and you know, you've

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Speaker 1: got to be mindful of turning the roster and continuing

447
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Speaker 1: to try to infuse younger players with your salary cap

448
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Speaker 1: situation being tighter and I don't know what the exact

449
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Speaker 1: number is, but obviously you don't have fifty million dollars

450
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Speaker 1: in cap room like some teams do. Are we going

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Speaker 1: to see the priority just be on the current Titans

452
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Speaker 1: more so than going out and going crazy on March

453
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Speaker 1: the sixteenth, when free agency opens. Yeah, we'll see how

454
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Speaker 1: it goes. I'd say that's probably a fair assessment, though, Mike,

455
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Speaker 1: is to try to you know, think about you know,

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Speaker 1: this year's free agents, but also some guys that we've

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Speaker 1: got coming up in future years. You know, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to keep you know, those guys around too. And

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Speaker 1: those are some of the decisions that we're working through

460
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Speaker 1: now and the decisions that we'll have to make as

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Speaker 1: we end closer to the starter free agency. The Titans

462
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Speaker 1: pick at number twenty six and then not again until

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Speaker 1: number ninety, how does that play into the equation and

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Speaker 1: all of the puzzle pieces that you're moving around, knowing

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Speaker 1: that there could potentially be some wiggle room in there somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a long time to wait. And you know, whether

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Speaker 1: you move up in the draft or you move back

468
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Speaker 1: in the draft, first thing you have to do. You

469
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Speaker 1: have to have a willing trade partner, somebody that's it

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Speaker 1: really wants to come to that pick or go back

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Speaker 1: to that pick, to corn of which direction you're going, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but certainly that the draft picks weigh into and you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll get closer to that in April after the Pro

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Speaker 1: days and the final meetings about where we see those

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Speaker 1: players maybe fall. You know, is he gonna make it

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Speaker 1: past this team at twenty or twenty one? Do we

477
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Speaker 1: need to go get him? Or I think we could

478
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Speaker 1: slide back three picks and get the same player. We

479
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: have not spoken with you since Amy Adams Trunk gave

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Speaker 1: you and head coach Mike Vrabel contract extensions. If you

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Speaker 1: would just acknowledge, you know how that makes you feel

482
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Speaker 1: personally and also what you think it says for the

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Speaker 1: organization's position right now. Yeah, extremely blessed that we have

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Speaker 1: her family and trust and the confidence in the direction

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Speaker 1: of the football team. I know our entire staff works

486
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Speaker 1: extremely hard to put a product on the field in

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Speaker 1: the community that they can be proud of, and you know,

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Speaker 1: just extremely blessed to work for her and for the

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Speaker 1: way that she allows Mike and I to do our job.

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Speaker 1: So can't thank her enough. And that consistency must be

491
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Speaker 1: incredibly helpful, not only for the football aspect of it,

492
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Speaker 1: but for the organization as a whole. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: you know that's what we you know, we talk about

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Speaker 1: building a foundation, and you know, I feel like we've

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Speaker 1: got a good foundation, certainly on our football team, players wise,

496
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Speaker 1: but also organizationally, staff wise. You know that we can

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Speaker 1: continue to build on and improve. And we do a

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Speaker 1: lot of things well and we want to try to

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Speaker 1: do them even better. And there's some things that you know,

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Speaker 1: I personally got to do better and that we've got

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Speaker 1: to do better, and we're going to try to improve

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Speaker 1: on those things. It's funny, is Amy and I've been

503
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Speaker 1: here during the last seven years that you've been the

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Speaker 1: general manager. We see a different feel towards the Titans.

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Speaker 1: There's certainly respect for what is being done. They're certainly

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Speaker 1: at admiration for being done. It's a it's a different

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Speaker 1: sentiment that we get from other ball clubs. Do you

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Speaker 1: sense the same things from agents, from college players, from

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Speaker 1: other teams that you speak with? Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think, you know, in the pro football world,

511
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Speaker 1: everybody understands that it's hard to win in this league.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to win a ball game in this league.

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Speaker 1: When you look back at games, you know, I was

514
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Speaker 1: watching some before we came to the Combine there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of teams that that didn't have great records that

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Speaker 1: were playing teams with really good records that going into

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter it was a close ball game and

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Speaker 1: the team with a good record ended up winning somehow.

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Speaker 1: And that's pro football. And you know, we've been able

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Speaker 1: to find ways to win and be a competitive football

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Speaker 1: team and be a consistent football team for the last

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Speaker 1: six years since we've been here. And I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, teams do recognize that because we in this

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Speaker 1: NFL football environment, we understand how hard it is to

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Speaker 1: win in the National Football From John Robinson, we wrap

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Speaker 1: up with something really interesting Mike Jones from USA Today,

527
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Speaker 1: who covers the NFL. He was a beat reporter for

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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders before they were known as the Washington Commanders.

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Speaker 1: I love reading this guy because I think he's got

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Speaker 1: a tremendous pulse on the league. Always learned something when

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Speaker 1: I read Mike Jones, you always learned something. He's the

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Speaker 1: reason I subscribe to USA Today because I like to

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Speaker 1: read what he has to say. And he did a

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Speaker 1: really interesting article where he kind of summarized the major

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Speaker 1: stories heading into the NFL offseason, kind of helped everybody

536
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Speaker 1: keep things in line about what they needed to be tracking.

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Speaker 1: And for Amy Wells and me, we love the bullet

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Speaker 1: points that make it easy. Yes, I love bite sized

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00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: chunks of information, easy to consume, easy to understand, small words.

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Speaker 1: So as Mike Jones sat down with us, we asked

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Speaker 1: him about that very article, the ten big storylines headed

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Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty two NFL offseason, and here we

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Speaker 1: hit the topics with him on the ot So thrilled

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Speaker 1: to be joined by USA Today's own Mike Joes. How

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Speaker 1: are you, sir, I'm doing well. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing very well. You you helped us set the

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Speaker 1: stage for the offseason with your article the ten Things

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Speaker 1: to Watch this offseason, So thank you for doing that,

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Speaker 1: no problem. Which of the ten do you think is

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Speaker 1: the most important? I think Aaron Rodgers decision is because

551
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Speaker 1: I think that that'll set some dominoes as far as

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Speaker 1: the rest of the quarterback market and where some of

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Speaker 1: these guys go or what these teams need. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna wind up going back to Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: but you know, if he goes somewhere else, then you

556
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Speaker 1: know there's other teams in need quarterbacks. And then okay,

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Speaker 1: so then what does that mean for Russell Wilson, you know?

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Speaker 1: Or what are the Steelers do or what are the

559
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Speaker 1: barn you know? So a lot of teams would love

560
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Speaker 1: to have him. Whatever he decides will shape or or

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Speaker 1: not shape a lot of outcomes. Green Bay isn't the

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Speaker 1: only team that has some question marks will call it

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Speaker 1: at that quarterback position, Arizona and Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Seattle. Do you think that Aaron Rodgers and what

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Speaker 1: happens in Green Bay could have an impact on some

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Speaker 1: of those other decisions with what they're doing with their quarterbacks?

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Speaker 1: I mean even so much as Carson Wentz here in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: right what he is going to be doing in the

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Speaker 1: in the coming years. Yeah, well I think that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: if Rogers decides, say he leaves green Bay and goes

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Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh or you know, I'm just throwing it out there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's going to Pittsburgh, Okay, then okay, right,

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Speaker 1: so then okay, what is the next best thing for

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Speaker 1: some of these other teams? Or say Rogers stays, then okay,

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Speaker 1: does that make Russell Wilson the most sought after guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, or the Kyler Murray thing, that thing if

577
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Speaker 1: they get that thing settled and that goes away. But okay,

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00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: if he's demanding out, then yeah, obviously, any of these

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Speaker 1: teams that need quarterbacks, you know, whether it's Washington or

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Speaker 1: you know, Indianapolis you know, say that you know, or

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Speaker 1: Cleveland you know, I mean, any of these teams, if

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Speaker 1: any of those guys or if those dominoes fall, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that does impact like what they do. All right,

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Speaker 1: So help me understand what Kyler Murray did on Monday. Well, first, okay,

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Speaker 1: seed that that font and all that stuff, and I tried. Okay,

586
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: so for those who don't know, for our OT people,

587
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: those who don't know, Kyler Murray put out some sort

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Speaker 1: of letter, right, it's like a in Okay, it was

589
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: kind of a I want a long term contract. I

590
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: want to see your commitment to me for this period

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Speaker 1: of time. Yeah. What do you really think that was? Well?

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Speaker 1: I think that he's looking around and he sees other

593
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks getting paid, okay, and he's like, hey, okay,

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Speaker 1: I am going into year four and I don't have

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Speaker 1: a long term deal, and so let me stomp my

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Speaker 1: feet a little bit and see if I can get

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Speaker 1: them riled up and you know, kind of strong on

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Speaker 1: them into giving me a long term deal. I think

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Speaker 1: that's what it was. It's not like he's accomplished the

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Speaker 1: same stuff as Josh Allen or you know, Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: when he got his deal with Patrick Mahomes I mean,

602
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Speaker 1: or even Lamar Jackson who doesn't have a deal yet,

603
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Speaker 1: or you know, I mean they made it to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs one time and they buy the skin of their teeth,

605
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, or they started seven and Night and it's

606
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: two straight years they've done, you know, and he himself

607
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: and half of the last two seasons has not played well,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, settled down but like you're good well,

609
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Speaker 1: and but the whole thing too. And you could speak

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Speaker 1: to this because you probably know this situation better than

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Speaker 1: we do. It's always been rumored that he's been a

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Speaker 1: bit of a diva, not the easiest guy to deal with.

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Speaker 1: This certainly doesn't help that if that's true, right, No,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if he cares. Okay, they're probably

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Speaker 1: lucky right now that baseball is in a lockout and

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Speaker 1: he can't like threatened going to spring training or something

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Speaker 1: like that to be, you know, I mean, because he

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Speaker 1: he was. The real thing is that he wasn't some

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Speaker 1: dude who just played baseball. First guy in history to

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Speaker 1: be drafted in the first round of NFL and Mlbay

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Speaker 1: right so easily. So if he would have that would

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Speaker 1: be a huge bargaining tip for him. But he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have that, so they're probably lucky that they don't. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: it's gonna look Kyler settled down, let's go. Yeah, it's

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00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: very interesting. The whole thing. It feels like an Instagram

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Speaker 1: fight to me. But I don't know. I was reading

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Speaker 1: your article and one of the things that I didn't

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Speaker 1: know was that Lamar Jackson doesn't have a contract and

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Speaker 1: he has been offered one and he turned it down

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Speaker 1: because he's representing himself. I didn't realize that guy still

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Speaker 1: did that and decided to forego the agent thing and

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Speaker 1: just represent themselves. How odd is that. It's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys, but there are a few who do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they have like a family friend that's a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: and you know they'll be like, Okay, this guy can

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Speaker 1: get ahold of the contracts. You can get a copy

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Speaker 1: of the contract from the NFL players association, and you

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00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: can compare, Okay, we like this, this and this, and

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00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: we like this and this other guy's contracts. So let's

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Speaker 1: put this whole shopping list, you know, a grocery list

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Speaker 1: in our contract request, and so go about it that way.

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00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: You know, it saves them a little money, and that's

643
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: what you know, some of these guys are thinking about.

644
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: But I don't know how smart it is. You know,

645
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: we haven't seen somebody get a mega deal without an agent. Now.

646
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's gonna get paid, he's gonna get

647
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: paid well, but you know, I don't know what the

648
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: sticking points that they're haggling over are. But you almost wonder, man,

649
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: if he had an agent, where they have gotten this

650
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: thing done already, because usually this is older dudes who

651
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: are ten years into the league and they play left

652
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: guard and it's like, yeah, you offer me this, I

653
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's not usually the young quarterback

654
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: at Louisville who got number thirty two money and is

655
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: looking now for massive dollars right now. So this is

656
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: like uncharted territory here and we'll see. You know, they

657
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: want him. He wants to be there, but you know

658
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: he wants to be paid really well, and so he's

659
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: looking at Josh Allen's deal and Patrick Mahons's deal and

660
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: he wants something similar to that. The fear I would

661
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: have if I were in the Baltimore organization or I

662
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: was a Baltimore fan is that it gets personal and

663
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: then it gets nasty somehow. Because you said it, Mike,

664
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: they want him. He wants to be there. But I mean,

665
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: if it took a turn, it could almost be a

666
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson situation where there seems to be no going

667
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: back because of something that happened non football related, right,

668
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: And that's why communication is very key. Eric to cost

669
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: to their general manager, says, I talk to him very regularly,

670
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: and I think that they have to massage. Like you said,

671
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: you have to make sure massage that situation. Make sure

672
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: they're on the same page, make sure he knows, Hey, look,

673
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: we want you. This is business. We're trying to do

674
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: the best thing for you, trying to do the best

675
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: thing for us, you know, and see how it comes out.

676
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: Before you became the USA Today NFL guru that you are,

677
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: we came to know you covering the Washington football team. Right,

678
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: where do you even start there? Right. I mean, now

679
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: we're still which which front front? Which well? I mean,

680
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: it just seems like between the Daniel Snyder thing and

681
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: then what they're doing as a football team, it feels

682
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: like Ron Riverez kind of got an idea of what

683
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: he wants to do with the ball club and that

684
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: they're it seems like the football is almost in better

685
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: shape than the non football. No for a ship, I

686
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 1: would say for a change, but I mean, you know,

687
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: normally everything's a mess there. Now they kind of have

688
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: the football stuff in line, but they still got to

689
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: find a franchise quarterback, right, And they botched that situation

690
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: last year not getting one and it hurt him. So

691
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: here they are basically a wasted year and having to

692
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: start all over on this search when the draft class

693
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: is even weaker, when you could have gotten somebody to

694
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: help you last year. So football is it's in okay shape.

695
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: They still have a lot of holes that they have

696
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: to fill. Their secondary offensive line, Brandon Sheriff, you know,

697
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: they franchise them two straight years. Their right guard, you know,

698
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna be gone somewhere else. Wide receiver, you know,

699
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: they had Curtis Samuel. He was always hurt couldn't get

700
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: on the field. There's stuff that they have to take

701
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: care of on the football side, but yeah, the non

702
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: football stuff is a mess, and it's kind of par

703
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: for the course. That is, Daniel Sneider hang on. He

704
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: hangs on because he's an owner and these thirty two

705
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: guys are like the mafia. They take care of each other.

706
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: And if you call Daniel Snyder on his mess, then

707
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: in boot him, then you kind of set a precedent

708
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: that anybody can you dig up stuff in these owners

709
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: closets and pull it out and then force them out

710
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: so they don't want that, you know. That's why Jerry

711
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: Jones was like, no, I think the league did a

712
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,839
Speaker 1: good job. I've been disciplining him. Well, that's because now

713
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: we know that the Cowboys had a scandal that they

714
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: paid people to hush money too. So that's how he

715
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: holds on is because these guys look out for each other,

716
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: and you know that's well. And another owner that's kind

717
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: of in some hot water right now is in Miami

718
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: with Stephen Ross and especially the conversation about potentially paying

719
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: a head coach to lose football games. How much of

720
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: an impact could that have on what we're seeing in

721
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: owners meetings in kind of this offseason leading up to

722
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two season. I think that, sadly, is

723
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: probably more damaging in the eyes of the owners than

724
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: the Daniel Snyder stuff because you have money involved and

725
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: the integrity of the game and you know, the whole

726
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: gambling aspect of you know now, and so if you

727
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: have somebody who's throwing games, that messes up a lot,

728
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: you know, so that probably is more, you know, something

729
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: that they are seriously looking at. And if they find

730
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 1: that this guy was trying to pay people to throw games,

731
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: then maybe he could do it before stop. What's the

732
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: biggest issue facing the National Football League? Mike Jones, There's

733
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: there's a lot, but I still think that the diversity

734
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: head coaching situation is something that's that's weighs heavily on

735
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: the minds of a lot of coaches, a lot of

736
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: assistant coaches, guys with aspirations have become head coaches. Weighs

737
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: on the minds of you know, league officials. Doesn't weigh

738
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: on the mind of the owners. The owners don't care.

739
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: They'll hire whoever they want to hire. But it's a

740
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: problem that the NFL knows that they have and they

741
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: need to find a way to fix it. But you know,

742
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: they can only do so much. So you've got Mike Tomlin,

743
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: who we're just like huge fans of Mike tom Us.

744
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: He's like the coolest guy alive. And then you you've

745
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: got to you've got Tony Dungee, who's won a Super Bowl. Yeah,

746
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you have had successful African American coaches. Why

747
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: has that not taken off more when you've I mean

748
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: because listen, you know this, you're talking about ownership. They

749
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: want to win, right right, yeah, and so why is

750
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: that not translated to more opportunities? I think from the

751
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 1: outside people wonder. Yeah, that's that's the question that everybody

752
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: would like to know. When you look at these guys

753
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: that are up for in line for these jobs, they're

754
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: highly qualified, they're highly successful. But there's a good old

755
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: boy club and you know the owners and the agents.

756
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, the agents are pulling strings behind the scenes

757
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: and have a lot of influence, and the owners will

758
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: hire somebody that's buddies with some one of their buddies,

759
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: and so that there's a lot of just you know,

760
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: kind of crooked stuff that it's not just on your

761
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: qualifications because of his qualifications where he Morris would have

762
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: been a head coach over Kevin O'Connell who has never

763
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: been a full time play caller ever and has had

764
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: remorse head coaching experience. Eric b Enemy, who was the

765
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: offensive you know, coordinator for one of the most prolific

766
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: offenses in the league right now, he would be a

767
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: head coach. Leslie Fraser, you know, great defensive coordinator would

768
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: have been you know. So it's not on qualifications, it's

769
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: on what's sexy and what's familiar and comfortable in the

770
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 1: good old boy club. Let's talk about the free agency

771
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: of it a little bit. I'm bringing back to the

772
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: x's nose here because we're sitting at the combine right now.

773
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: But free agency is upon us two weeks. It's coming up,

774
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: so fourteen days. Tapering period, the lawful tampering period starts

775
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:16,439
Speaker 1: March fourteen, and Mike Keith hate the legal tampering name.

776
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of stuff to watch within this

777
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: free agency period, mainly because there are a lot of

778
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: guys who are going to be cap casualties. Basically, there

779
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams that are dramatically over that

780
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: cap limit and are going to have to let some

781
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: key players go, especially at some of those skill positions

782
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: like wide receiver. How much of an impact is that

783
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: going to have on teams the way that they start

784
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: to build together, especially after seeing what the Rams did

785
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: with their Mega team that they put together and then

786
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: we're able to win the Super Bowl. Yeah no, I

787
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: think that. You know, they always say it's a copycat league,

788
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: right so, yeah, people are watching and they will be

789
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: willing to Okay, let's go for bro, you know, let's

790
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: let's just go out out get the big names. Will

791
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: structure these contracts so we can fit it under our

792
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: cap right now. We'll pay the price later on and

793
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: then we'll restructure and we'll restructure, and we'll keep kicking

794
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: the can down the road. Yeah. So I think that

795
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: there will be teams that they're close and they will

796
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: try to load up here because this window of opportunity

797
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: is very small and you have to strike while you can.

798
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: So that's why Tampa, you know, they went out and

799
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: they got Tom Brady and they won their Super Bowl.

800
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: Then the next year they restruct worked a lot of

801
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: deals to make sure they brought all twenty two back,

802
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, because they know, okay, this is a special window.

803
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think a lot of teams will be

804
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: looking at this, and like you said, there'll be a

805
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: lot of teams that, you know, we'll have to make

806
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: salary cap cuts, and then teams will pick up those veterans.

807
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: And also because some of those guys will have deals

808
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: that they're still getting paid for even though they're not

809
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 1: on those teams, then they don't need to command as

810
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: quite as much and they'll be willing to take less,

811
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: just like Odell Beckham Junior was to take less to

812
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: go to the Rams because it was a good winning situation.

813
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: Most important question for Mike Jones is Tom Brady really retired?

814
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: I think so, you do? I do think so. I

815
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: think that his wife has been like saying, like, come on, dude,

816
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he originally had heard that he had

817
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: told her he went to play till he's thirty seven.

818
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: Then it was forty, then it was forty four, and

819
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: after he won that Super Bowl in Tampa, she was like,

820
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: what more do you have to prove? Come on? And

821
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: he played one more year and when right, And when

822
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: he first retired, you know, he was like, yeah, we'll see.

823
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: But then the next week on his podcast, he was like,

824
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm very comfortable in my situation, So I think that

825
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: I think that he must have been like, you know what,

826
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: it's time I went out on a great note. And

827
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: he said he said his kids are getting older. He

828
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: wants to be there for their events. Again. His wife

829
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: is like, I'm ready to have a husband that's here,

830
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, So I think he's done. Wrap up with this.

831
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Speaker 1: Your thoughts on where you think the Tennessee Titans are

832
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: right now? Mike Jones. Very interesting situation because they're they're there,

833
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: they're close. You know, they're quite knocked on that door,

834
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: but they do they really have enough to quite get

835
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: over that hump? You know, is Ryan Tanne the guy.

836
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, their defense was much improved, but you know

837
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,959
Speaker 1: they couldn't quite you know, it seems like they're really close,

838
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: but eventually some teams are close and then they drop off.

839
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: Can they extend this? Can they you know, add they've

840
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: got to add, you know, some other guys to catch

841
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: the ball. They've got to add some help along their

842
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, they've got some some high price

843
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: guys that they have to restructure or you know, so

844
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: they're interesting. Their quality team obviously well coached, but I

845
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, there's that level of elite and

846
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: then you're just very good, and I don't know if

847
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: they can quite get over that hump to be in

848
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: that elite category. We're looking to get over that hump.

849
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 1: That's the goal. Mike Jones, You're great all the time.

850
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking the time with us

851
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: and enjoy reading everything you do and really really thankful

852
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: you could stop buy and see us. Oh no, thanks

853
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Speaker 1: guys for having me. I'm going to be asking the

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