WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 18

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst. Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He is

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Paps. Thank you, Marvin, for the wonderful throw to

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<v Speaker 2>our show. Paul, we couldn't be more excited. It's fall

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<v Speaker 2>and all the sports are happening.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sports fan heaven. Baseball playoffs are coming up. Big

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<v Speaker 3>slate of college football. Of course, the NFL all weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>There's hockey coming up. We have everything. We have warm

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<v Speaker 3>takes on the Cubs and the White Sox. You have

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<v Speaker 3>a warm take on your darling of the NFL, which

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even know what it is yet. and the

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<v Speaker 3>huge college football weekend with Paul Burmeister of NBC Sports.

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<v Speaker 3>But where are we starting, Pearl?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, got to go to last night, a game that

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<v Speaker 2>we all saw coming, right? Atlanta beats Green Bay 35-14,

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<v Speaker 2>throwing out two weeks of bad takes ripping the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get to it in a second. Somebody had positive

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<v Speaker 2>things to say about Atlanta. But you have to admit, Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>you did not see that coming.

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<v Speaker 3>I think about, imagine you hadn't watched any NFL this

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<v Speaker 3>year and just tuned in and say, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>watch the Falcons versus the Packers and see what these

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<v Speaker 3>teams are about. And if you didn't know that the

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<v Speaker 3>Falcons the past two weeks were were beyond brutal. They

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't been in the red zone, which seems impossible, but

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<v Speaker 3>they did it last night. They did it with Bijan Robinson,

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<v Speaker 3>194 yards and two touchdowns. Not a surprise because he's awesome,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Packers haven't stopped anybody. Then you have Michael Penix.

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<v Speaker 3>That first play or first drive where he throws that interception,

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<v Speaker 3>what were you thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, this is not looking good for my

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<v Speaker 2>man Michael Penix, but I did see Bijan Robinson on

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<v Speaker 2>his first and second run he was not going down

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<v Speaker 2>on the first tackle. It dawned on me, Green Bay

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<v Speaker 2>can't tackle this dude. But we've seen Atlanta have good

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<v Speaker 2>Bijan games and still not win. So I still didn't think,

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<v Speaker 2>even with Bijan Robinson running for all over the place

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<v Speaker 2>in the first quarter, I said, it's Atlanta. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get consistent passing. And then what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Pennix just took over and he found his favorite guy,

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<v Speaker 3>beyond his favorite guy, Drake London. Really good wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 3>Not really a national TV guy where you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's Justin Jefferson. But in the last few games... Nine targets,

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<v Speaker 3>ten targets last night, nine for 194 for Drake London.

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<v Speaker 3>The last couple times he's played with Michael Penix, seven catches,

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<v Speaker 3>six catches, nine catches, ten catches. He loves him some

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<v Speaker 3>Drake London.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I think we were going to save this

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<v Speaker 2>for later, but on yesterday's show, you had what I

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<v Speaker 2>considered a crazy take. I'm not going to lie to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I thought I was going to call for this

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<v Speaker 3>in a self-serving manner. You want to pull the button?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to call for it because yesterday we were

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<v Speaker 2>debating which 0-2 team has the best shot of making

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs. And you said what I thought was totally bizarre.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we have it ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>But you picked this team to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>I begrudgingly am going with the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's why.

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<v Speaker 3>They stunk up the joint. I mean the joint being

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<v Speaker 3>Earth the first couple weeks of the season. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think the reason I picked them, because we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of had to pick an 0-2 team, I never think

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<v Speaker 3>a team is as bad as they look in weeks

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<v Speaker 3>1 and 2. And what happens is in week 4,

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<v Speaker 3>you're like, I don't remember what happened in week 1

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<v Speaker 3>and 2, but it's hot take season. So people thought

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<v Speaker 3>that the Falcons were going to be the worst team

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<v Speaker 3>in the league. I just think they have too much

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<v Speaker 3>offensive talent. They were playing with two third-string quarterbacks the

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<v Speaker 3>past two weeks. Now they have a real quarterback who's

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<v Speaker 3>just getting his legs under. I mean, they lost 34-3

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<v Speaker 3>to Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>They got three points. Does a quarterback, does Michael Panix

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<v Speaker 2>coming off an injury and looking rusty make that much

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<v Speaker 2>of a difference? I don't think there's any logic that

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<v Speaker 2>explains what happened last night.

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<v Speaker 3>So now we have to pivot. So you think the

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<v Speaker 3>Falcons are okay, and in that division, they're okay. One

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<v Speaker 3>and two, you're right back in the thick of things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, but wait, by the way. The Falcons schedule gets

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<v Speaker 2>crazy hard. They get the Saints next week on Monday night,

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<v Speaker 2>a game we were complaining about, now is a must-watch.

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<v Speaker 2>They have the Ravens, the Bears, the Niners, the Chiefs,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're reality-checking the Falcons.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying by the bye week, they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. And I am not buying you they

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<v Speaker 2>make the playoffs. I like the Saints and the Panthers

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<v Speaker 2>more in this division. Come on, Paul. I know you

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<v Speaker 2>can beat a beat-up Green Bay team, but you really

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<v Speaker 2>think Atlanta is going to survive this gauntlet?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to counter your break-pumping with this. The defense

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<v Speaker 3>for Atlanta, they hit Jordan Love 12 times yesterday, and

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<v Speaker 3>they protected Michael Penix. B. John Robinson looked fantastic. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that the Falcons are contenders or even contender-ish,

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<v Speaker 3>a term we use on this show. But in that division,

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<v Speaker 3>they can get right back in this.

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<v Speaker 2>If I could, it would be an 8-9 to make

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, should we get to the bad side of this game?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the key reason Atlanta looked good last night,

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<v Speaker 2>to me, was Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Green Bay came in, a pressure game. They escaped

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<v Speaker 3>the Jets last week, Green Bay. Week one, they were terrible,

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay. They're not protecting Jordan Love. They're not running

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<v Speaker 3>the ball. No Josh Jacobs. And they were even worse

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<v Speaker 3>last night. They had 17 rushing yards. Bijan had three

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<v Speaker 3>runs over 17 yards himself last night. That was brutal.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a no-show. That was national TV, too, so

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<v Speaker 3>it becomes a referendum on the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it goes even deeper. Obviously, the O-line was

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<v Speaker 2>just awful. The run game has been awful without Josh Jacobs.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a couple key drops. Here's the biggest problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked like they gave up in this game, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>And who's that on? That's on head coach Matt LaFleur.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question. Have they given up on Matt

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<v Speaker 2>LaFleur globally? Because they haven't really looked great in any week.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they came in 1-1 with that win over

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets. I feel like Matt LaFleur, if he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>just sign a contract and you had a different team,

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<v Speaker 2>he'd be the first coach on the hot seat.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I look at the Packers as not a

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<v Speaker 3>reactionary franchise. They have the board of directors. The fans

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<v Speaker 3>kind of own the team. I don't see them as

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<v Speaker 3>a midseason firing type of team. They don't feel that way.

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<v Speaker 3>But the fans are upset, and this goes back to

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<v Speaker 3>last year, losing, what, I think six of the last seven,

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<v Speaker 3>and some of them were ugly. Micah Parsons isn't there,

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<v Speaker 3>but that's only one person. That can't be the entire thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you look at their wide receivers, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they have an A-level wide receiver on the roster.

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<v Speaker 3>Tucker Kraft is supposed to be an A-level tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>There were more than a few drops, passes that were made.

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<v Speaker 3>This was not Jordan Love's problem last night.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to 20-second timeout you. I think Christian Watson,

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<v Speaker 2>when he's healthy on that rare occasion, is an A-level guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a bad holding call last night, and Matthew

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<v Speaker 2>Golden actually played well last night. Tucker Kraft was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be good, but he struggled, especially in blocking. And

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<v Speaker 2>then afterwards, what really got me, Paul, Tucker Kraft complained

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<v Speaker 2>about the fans. We have the sound. You want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear it? Here's Tucker Kraft talking about the reaction in

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<v Speaker 2>Green Bay. Yeah, it's pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, like everyone pictures Lambeau Field and.

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<v Speaker 1>The, not booze.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't picture booze.

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<v Speaker 2>I picture my home stadium. That's tough. It's pretty disappointing.

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<v Speaker 5>Especially for a home opener.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially for a home opener.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty disappointing. It's not going to help us win.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what people think that's going to rally

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<v Speaker 4>us or something like that, but we're growing, man. We're

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<v Speaker 4>mentally strong enough, capable enough to get back on the

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<v Speaker 4>field and play ball. But it would probably be much

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<v Speaker 4>easier with the 70,000 people behind us rather than opposing us.

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<v Speaker 3>Tucker Kraft, my man, you got baited. The local media

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<v Speaker 3>was there and they're trying to get something more than

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<v Speaker 3>just the game, the loss. They asked you about the fans.

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<v Speaker 3>If I went to the rookie symposium, I would tell

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<v Speaker 3>the rookies, if you're ever asked about the fans at home, say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's about us winning on the field and

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<v Speaker 3>deserving their cheers. They were fine tonight. It's not on them.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to say it. But Tucker Kraft expounded on it.

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<v Speaker 3>He jabbed the fans two or three times. That is

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<v Speaker 3>not a veteran move. And when the fans are upset

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<v Speaker 3>with you, you've got to ignore that. You have to

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<v Speaker 3>eat that.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. And if there was anyone disappointing, it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 2>70,000 fans. It was the 53 players on the Packers

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<v Speaker 2>who disappointed at every level.

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<v Speaker 3>The Packers are the most loyal fan base as much

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<v Speaker 3>as anyone in the league. And if you compare them,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Dan Patrick earlier today on the Dan Patrick show,

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<v Speaker 3>compared Packer fans to Cardinals fans, St. Louis Cardinals. They're supportive.

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<v Speaker 2>They cheer.

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<v Speaker 3>They rally. And they were cheering even at a point

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<v Speaker 3>in the third or fourth quarter where it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a game. That's just dumb by Tucker Kraft. You're

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<v Speaker 3>going to make it worse.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he just got paid, too. And he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>play well last night. He missed a couple key blocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Did have a few catches. He's a key player for them,

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<v Speaker 2>but he shouldn't say anything. Imagine if he was a

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<v Speaker 2>free agent down the road and he went to Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think they booed at Green Bay, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they deserved the boos last night because the effort was

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<v Speaker 2>not there, especially defense. Forget the offense. B. John Robinson

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<v Speaker 2>was stopped at the line and broke through so many tackles.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the NFL. Nobody breaks tackles like that anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the 80s. It's not Barry Sanders.

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<v Speaker 3>Your homeowner is against one of the worst teams in

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<v Speaker 3>the league. This is like when your high school schedules

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<v Speaker 3>a bad team for homecoming or your college schedules a

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<v Speaker 3>bad team. You've got Atlanta, who had done nothing, and

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<v Speaker 3>you do a no-show. All right, let's give out helmet stickers.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, before that. Go ahead. I want to do a throwback.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I do have something nice to say about Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember on the Dan Patrick show when I

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<v Speaker 2>uttered the word?

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<v Speaker 3>What are we doing here? Oh, McLovin says relax.

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<v Speaker 2>Relax, but it's spelled wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, because you spelled it wrong on air.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I called it R-E-A-L-X. It actually sounds right, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going Aaron Rodgers, relax, pump the brakes, everything's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be fine at Green Bay?

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. Micah Parsons might be back for the

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys game in October. This team is not nearly as

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<v Speaker 2>bad as they looked last night, and they could get. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan said something interesting. He doesn't expect Josh Jacobs back

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<v Speaker 2>this season because there is video out there of an

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<v Speaker 2>alleged assault, and he's on the commissioner's list.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a Packer fan, would you relax a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit because the Lions don't look great, the Bears don't

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<v Speaker 3>look great, and the Vikings don't look great?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to go there, but what I will

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<v Speaker 2>say is when Micah Parsons gets back, he is the

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<v Speaker 2>energy for that entire defense. There's so much juice with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes everyone's job easier. I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get healthier around the whole lineup. Tucker Kraft is going

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<v Speaker 2>to get more used to playing. He's obviously a little rusty.

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<v Speaker 2>I liked Matthew Golden last night. Jordan Love missed some

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<v Speaker 2>big-time throws. The fourth down throw where he threw it

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<v Speaker 2>to the back of the end zone. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get better. I think Green Bay is a team you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to face in the second half. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to have a losing record, Paul. But they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get a lot healthier. So I'm saying R-E-A-L-X.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, positive pearl off here. All right, let's give out

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<v Speaker 3>some helmet stickers last night. I'll let you go first.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, my helmet stickers. I'm going obvious. Bijan, we all

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<v Speaker 2>knew he was great. Drake London needed a game like

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<v Speaker 2>this to become sort of a number one receiver. in

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<v Speaker 2>the nfl 194 yards completely dominant they couldn't cover them

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<v Speaker 2>and they got stuck in one-on-one coverage because they were

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<v Speaker 2>so worried about bijan robinson i am really impressed this

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<v Speaker 2>is the guy who i kind of worry was drafted

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<v Speaker 2>too high number eight overall by hitting a stride Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he looks like a great number one receiver. I'm all in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kyle Pitts hitting his stride. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>to my helmet sticker. Usually it's supposed to go to

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<v Speaker 3>a player. I'm going to help someone out here. This

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<v Speaker 3>poor woman after a drop by the Packers, she deserves

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<v Speaker 3>a helmet sticker. Take a look at this.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 3>She's so upset, she's got to check her own pulse. Oh, boy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, calling the medics, calling the people. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>there before. Look at that. Someone attend to her. Make

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<v Speaker 3>sure she's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a level of snarkiness I'm not used to

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<v Speaker 2>from Green Bay fans.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't think she was playing to the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>You think she really was having a medical issue?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah. I've been there before. As a Bears fan,

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<v Speaker 3>I've left games at halftime and just been kind of

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<v Speaker 3>dizzy and had to walk out and get some vitamin

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<v Speaker 3>D and get some sunshine. She seemed in need of help.

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<v Speaker 3>She needed to go to the pen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's almost as if she knew the

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<v Speaker 2>camera was on her. But I don't know how she

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<v Speaker 2>would have known that. She was kind of high up.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a lot more NFL to hit coming up.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. It's a rare day in baseball where a

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<v Speaker 2>city has two teams clinch. Of course, it's Paul City.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to dive into baseball next. Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Pitch is inside.

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<v Speaker 5>And he's done it!

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<v Speaker 2>40-40 for the soon-to-be MVP!

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<v Speaker 3>That's a midday pick-me-up, and that's Peter Crow Armstrong, and

0:11:38.500 --> 0:11:41.460
<v Speaker 3>the Cubs fans going nuts as he goes 40-40. What

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<v Speaker 3>a season for him. He's going to cruise to the MVP,

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<v Speaker 3>which you can't imagine saying six months ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable. You know what, though? I'm going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>wet blanket here, if permission allowed.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. So 40 steals in the era where

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<v Speaker 2>the pitcher can't go over to first base doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing. Shohei obviously went 50-50. To me, these

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<v Speaker 2>are manufactured stats. I do not care about it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>old enough that I watch Vince Coleman run the bases.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys are not the same. It's easy to steal

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<v Speaker 2>a base if the guy can't do the pickoff move

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<v Speaker 2>unlimited times.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can see what you're saying, that steals aren't

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<v Speaker 3>the steals of our youth where 70, 80, 90 was

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<v Speaker 3>the number. But I guess the 40-40 is the hook

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<v Speaker 3>where the power and speed, usually guys who hit 40

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<v Speaker 3>aren't allowed to steal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, but in the new era with the bigger bases,

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<v Speaker 2>all these Rob Manfred changes. The gloves even? Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>Shohei Otani can get 50 steals, then I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be blown away by PCA getting 40.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at you with the wet blanket. Let's get to

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<v Speaker 3>some warm takes and warm it up in here because

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<v Speaker 3>it got a little cold. I'm going to go first.

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<v Speaker 3>It's time for some warm takes. Here's mine. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to stay in Chicago. Sports fans in all cities, they

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<v Speaker 3>don't get days like this very often. Let me recap

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<v Speaker 3>what happened in Chicago yesterday. The White Sox clinched a

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<v Speaker 3>spot in the playoffs. 12 minutes later, the Cubs clinched

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<v Speaker 3>a spot in the playoffs. During that Cubs game, Pete

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<v Speaker 3>Crowe Armstrong joined the 40-40 club. We just saw that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's the Cubs getting in the playoffs. Now, the Cubs

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<v Speaker 3>making the playoffs isn't a big surprise. The White Sox

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<v Speaker 3>making the playoffs is a huge surprise. Last year, the

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<v Speaker 3>White Sox lost 102 games. Two seasons ago, the White Sox,

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<v Speaker 3>there's the Cubs soaking it in at Wrigley, not a

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<v Speaker 3>big surprise. Let's go to the White Sox. 100 losses

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<v Speaker 3>last year. 121 losses the season before. Historical. They like

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<v Speaker 3>tied the Richmond Spiders or the Cleveland Spiders or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that. Some Spiders. That's historical. But the White Sox,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're not a dominant team. They don't have

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<v Speaker 3>100 wins. They kind of have a weak division to

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<v Speaker 3>get in. Doesn't matter. That is a feel-good story for

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<v Speaker 3>the White Sox and kind of shocking. And the bonus

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<v Speaker 3>coverage for Chicago sports fans, Sox get in, Cubs get in,

0:13:42.300 --> 0:13:45.380
<v Speaker 3>PCA 40-40, and the icing on the cake is watching

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<v Speaker 3>the Packers lose in painful fashion against on national TV.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like a 30-for-30 day in Chicago, and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>get those that often. So if you're a Chicago sports fan,

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<v Speaker 3>whatever town you're from, soak those in, watch both teams,

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<v Speaker 3>support the whole town. That was fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Paul, so if you're a new viewer to Not

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<v Speaker 2>So Fast, I have to ask a question. Who are

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<v Speaker 2>you pulling for in the postseason? You're a Chicago native.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the White Sox or the Cubs?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a tough question. I've dealt with this before. I

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<v Speaker 3>am a Cubs fan. I'm a Chicagoan. I'm a Cubs fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from the South Side, which makes it really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>But I like the Sox, and I like when the

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<v Speaker 3>Sox do well for the rest of the city. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't root for the Sox nor against the Sox. When

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<v Speaker 3>the Sox win, it's good for the city. It's good

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<v Speaker 3>for everybody. I've never gotten into the thing, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to get crushed for this. where you love your

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<v Speaker 3>team and hate the team from across town. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of weird, and you were just licking your chops.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, Yankees and Mets fans hate each other. Clippers,

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<v Speaker 2>Lakers fans, I don't think the Lakers fans even care

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<v Speaker 2>about the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and I don't care about the Sox. I just

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<v Speaker 3>look at, like, hey, if they're doing well, great. I

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<v Speaker 3>hope the Cubs do better, much better.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's the percentage of the cities? Is it 50-50?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it 60-40?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a weird one, and we could do an hour

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<v Speaker 3>on this. The Sox are really south side. Cubs are

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<v Speaker 3>all over, and, of course, the north side and the

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<v Speaker 3>west side. But the Cubs are a national team. They're

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<v Speaker 3>like a tourist attraction.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw them as a kid, WGN. They were on

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<v Speaker 2>TV all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Wrigley Field is more of a place you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go to if you're not even barely a

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<v Speaker 3>Cubs fan or a baseball fan. The Sox are more

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<v Speaker 3>territorial to the south side.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Okay. I have a team everybody should root for

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL, and it's a weird one. The Las

0:15:15.990 --> 0:15:21.020
<v Speaker 2>Vegas Raiders are now the darling of the NFL. They're 2-0.

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<v Speaker 2>They play New Orleans, could go 3-0. It's a winnable game,

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<v Speaker 2>I think. But here's what's exciting to me, Paul. On

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<v Speaker 2>November 18th, the John Madden movie comes out with Nicolas

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<v Speaker 2>Cage and Christian Bale about Madden and Al Davis. There

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<v Speaker 2>is a resurgence of the commitment to excellence. Everything Raiders

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<v Speaker 2>feels like is in the air. You know the old

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<v Speaker 2>NFL film thing, Autumn Wind was a Raider? Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>All that stuff is going to be in play if

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<v Speaker 2>the Raiders are good. I watched some of the highlights

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. Kirk Cousins wasn't throwing little dink passes. He

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<v Speaker 2>was gunning it all over the field like Daryl LaMonica

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<v Speaker 2>or one of the old Raiders quarterbacks. This is Raider football.

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<v Speaker 2>So the movie comes out the 18th. The Raiders play

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<v Speaker 2>Seattle on November 15th. Somehow, they have a winning record

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<v Speaker 2>after that. It is going to be a craze. People

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<v Speaker 2>follow the Raiders even when they're bad, Paul. Can you

0:16:08.660 --> 0:16:10.980
<v Speaker 2>imagine with all this going on, if they're good? This

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the most exciting seasons we've had in

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. And you don't even need number one

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<v Speaker 2>overall pick, Fernando Mendoza. I'm into all things Raiders.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very fun. And a couple reasons I love this

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<v Speaker 3>story is that the Raiders have their reputation. Vegas has

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<v Speaker 3>its reputation. And Kirk Cousins and Fernando Mendoza are the

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<v Speaker 3>least Raider quarterbacks of all time. Fernando Mendoza makes Kirk

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<v Speaker 3>Cousins seem like a kind of a rough and tumble guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Kirk Cousins, they go shopping together for friendly

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<v Speaker 3>deals at Kohl's. I love that. They're just fascinating the

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<v Speaker 3>dichotomy of those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I saw Fernando Mendoza, and it might have been fake,

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<v Speaker 2>is starting a class on financial management for athletes or something.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the biggest nerd in sports.

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<v Speaker 3>And you go to Vegas because you make bad financial decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. And now Vegas is drafting probably the wrong kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guys. But this is kind of fun. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>I would also say the Saints. If they beat the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 2>then heck, I'll just jump on that Saints bandwagon. I

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<v Speaker 2>need some feel-good stories.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bandwagon week to week. We do that here in

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<v Speaker 3>Not So Fast. All right, my next warm take is this.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a pivotal weekend in college football for a

0:17:08.050 --> 0:17:12.590
<v Speaker 3>couple teams. Florida, Iowa, and Mississippi State. Now, Florida's 3-0.

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<v Speaker 3>The new ball coach, John Summerall, is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got some momentum. You have Ole Miss at home.

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<v Speaker 3>Ole Miss is ripe for a letdown after putting all

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<v Speaker 3>their eggs in the basket of being LSU. Great week

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<v Speaker 3>for Florida, possibly. Iowa at Michigan. Iowa gets very little

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<v Speaker 3>national coverage. They have a fantastic defense. They're 3-0. You

0:17:30.330 --> 0:17:33.580
<v Speaker 3>beat Michigan on national TV. That's a big one. You

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<v Speaker 3>host Ohio State after that. Then the schedule gets a

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<v Speaker 3>little more friendly. This is an opportunity weekend for Iowa.

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<v Speaker 3>Mississippi State, your Bulldogs pearl off. You love Camario Taylor,

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<v Speaker 3>the quarterback. Everyone loves this guy.

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<v Speaker 5>Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Beat Missouri, and then you can go on an SEC run.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot uphill for Mississippi State because the schedule

0:17:51.670 --> 0:17:54.050
<v Speaker 3>is so tough. But you're at 3-0 right now. It's

0:17:54.109 --> 0:17:56.340
<v Speaker 3>cute and fuzzy. But you have to go to 4-0

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<v Speaker 3>and beat a contender-ish team to get national coverage. You

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<v Speaker 3>want to be the Indiana this year? You want to

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<v Speaker 3>be the SMU? You want to be the Arizona State

0:18:04.540 --> 0:18:07.600
<v Speaker 3>and make the playoffs? These three teams have a chance. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. You really think they have a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to become Indiana?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, they're not that far off the board. Mississippi State

0:18:13.750 --> 0:18:16.810
<v Speaker 3>is usually good football. Florida, Iowa. I just think these

0:18:16.869 --> 0:18:20.040
<v Speaker 3>teams have something. But they can't afford a loss now. Like,

0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.460
<v Speaker 3>if they lose now, they go right back to the

0:18:21.500 --> 0:18:22.000
<v Speaker 3>back of the line.

0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:24.770
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Mississippi State, this reminds me of the Dak Prescott year.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we've been excited about this team. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting, too. You think, will they get game day?

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<v Speaker 2>That's sort of the measurement of where the buzz is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're right. If they win these games this weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>I think all of them are in play for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of attention. Okay. I know one game that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to get attention. It's the Cowboys-Ravens, 425 CBS. It is

0:18:44.050 --> 0:18:46.430
<v Speaker 2>going to get, of course, a monster rating. Here's the issue, Paul.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in Rio. In Brazil, at the Maracanã Stadium, which

0:18:50.800 --> 0:18:54.170
<v Speaker 2>the soccer players, or what they call football, have been

0:18:54.190 --> 0:18:58.609
<v Speaker 2>complaining about for years, apparently. Now, normally, the NFL doesn't care.

0:18:58.710 --> 0:19:01.510
<v Speaker 2>It's all about international expansion. They don't care about player health.

0:19:02.070 --> 0:19:04.689
<v Speaker 2>This would be bad. Think about who's playing on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Derrick Henry, who is still at his peak

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<v Speaker 2>in his 30s. You have the most exciting quarterback in

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<v Speaker 2>the league, in some people's eyes, Lamar Jackson. Then you

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<v Speaker 2>have Dak Prescott on Dallas. In week two, Dak Prescott

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<v Speaker 2>played as good a game as any quarterback in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a potential Cowboys quarterback with an MVP season. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't risk all that to play on a crappy

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<v Speaker 2>field in Brazil, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't send the Jaguars down there like 12 years

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<v Speaker 3>ago with no stars. There's stars on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a dumb move by the NFL. They should

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<v Speaker 2>have sent that Falcons-Dolphins. Get those teams out. Sorry, Atlanta's hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me another team. Dolphins and somebody bad. Browns. Dolphins-Browns,

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<v Speaker 2>that would have been perfect for Rio. They don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the difference in Brazil. Do you think they need to

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<v Speaker 2>see the Cowboys? Why did the NFL waste the Cowboys-Ravens

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<v Speaker 2>game for down there?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to save it, but I think this is hot.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this could be very problematic for the NFL.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a couple more saucy games before we break. Patriots-Jaguars.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this is wake-up call time for Drake May.

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<v Speaker 3>He hasn't had a good game since early in the

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<v Speaker 3>playoffs last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know. He was awesome against Cleveland in

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<v Speaker 2>week one.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't count.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get points against Cleveland. Now, I was actually

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<v Speaker 2>disappointed because Jacksonville had Denver on the ropes last week

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<v Speaker 2>and totally took the foot off the gas. I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's more pressure on Drake May because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>critics are coming out about Drake May, that he isn't

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<v Speaker 2>really playing anything like he did last year. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know why, because he had the easy schedule last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he faces tougher teams, including these Jags. He doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>look exactly like the same quarterback since the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Kurt Warner was on with Dan Patrick just an

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<v Speaker 3>hour ago, and he said that Drake May has not

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<v Speaker 3>let it rip. He's being too cautious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's aiming, not throwing. So this is definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>judgment game. We come out of this game saying this

0:20:44.859 --> 0:20:47.610
<v Speaker 2>team is a contender if they win. The Jags, they

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<v Speaker 2>could be 2-0, and if they beat Denver and New England,

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<v Speaker 2>then I think you're looking at them as a real

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl team. If they lose this game, they're 1-2,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're back to where we were a couple years

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<v Speaker 2>ago as not a real threat.

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<v Speaker 3>That'd be weird. That'd be weird. All right, coming up next,

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<v Speaker 3>we have the Clip Joint. We also have coming up

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<v Speaker 3>in 15 minutes, Paul Burmeister of NBC Sports to get

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<v Speaker 3>you ready for the entire college football weekend. Stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the next great tight end in the NFL?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I think Trey McBride's probably the best consistent tight

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<v Speaker 6>end right now over the last couple of years. These

0:21:22.950 --> 0:21:25.890
<v Speaker 6>guys are having good rookie years, but then they're kind

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<v Speaker 6>of falling off a little bit. Ty Warren was solid

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<v Speaker 6>at first, not doing too much lately, but I'm a

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<v Speaker 6>big fan of him. Colson Loveland, I thought was going

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<v Speaker 6>to take the next step forward, and now he hasn't

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<v Speaker 6>produced in the first two games.

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<v Speaker 5>So the consistency isn't there.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, these guys have talent, no doubt, but I

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<v Speaker 6>was leaning towards Colson Loveland, but he just, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>going into this year, I just need to see him

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<v Speaker 6>produce now going into, you know, third week of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>Back on Not So Fast, Paxton Perloff right here on

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<v Speaker 3>NBC Sports and Peacock. That's Gronk earlier with DP on

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<v Speaker 3>the Dan Patrick Show. He's talking about tight ends, and

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he really nailed it because... The one I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to pick was Colston Loveland, the breakout star

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<v Speaker 3>for the Bears. I'm not being biased, but a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people liked him.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the best tight end in football, though?

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<v Speaker 3>Not the best, but the guy who's going to be next.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's Brock Bowers, though.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Brock Bowers, injured. Colston Loveland, slow start. Tyler Warren,

0:22:23.660 --> 0:22:25.700
<v Speaker 3>slow start. You still love all three guys, though.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually pulled up the stats. The leading receivers at

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<v Speaker 2>tight end, Dalton Kincaid in Buffalo, who we don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about, is number one. Then Dalton Schultz. Travis

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<v Speaker 2>Kelsey is still number three. And then my guy, Trey McBride,

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<v Speaker 2>is four. Is it possible that Kelsey is still the

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<v Speaker 2>top tight end in football?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad you brought that up because I thought Kelsey

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<v Speaker 3>played really well in weeks one and two where I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, okay. This guy, we assume he's retiring. He

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<v Speaker 3>looks pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know. It's so funny because Gronk answered that question,

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<v Speaker 2>did not get into Kittle and Kelsey, who are older,

0:22:52.830 --> 0:22:53.910
<v Speaker 2>but they're still right there.

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<v Speaker 3>And Kelsey had that catch the other day where he

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<v Speaker 3>was rumbling and stumbling. He was looking around like he

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<v Speaker 3>hadn't done this in a while, like he hadn't run

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<v Speaker 3>30 yards in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I go Trey McBride. I always say, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you not double teaming Trey McBride? It's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>double team a tight end. He is the best tight

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<v Speaker 2>end in football. He's not Gronk. I mean, Gronk was

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<v Speaker 2>so high up there, maybe the best ever, but Trey

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<v Speaker 2>McBride's the best right now to me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I hope Brock Bowers gets healthy because, like

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<v Speaker 3>you said, you like what's going on there with Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>They're 2-0 without him. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>And he is the focal point. He'll have 120 targets

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<v Speaker 3>in his sleep. All right, let's get to the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk. We did tight ends. Let's talk fullbacks. Check

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<v Speaker 3>this out. 49ers Kyle Juszczyk. The other day, he had

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<v Speaker 3>a good play, and he decides to celebrate a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and he kind of takes a little sip.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks like he's kind of cracking a beer and

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<v Speaker 3>chugging it. Well, it turns out, not so fast. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not what he was talking about. Here's his explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how else to say it. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>drinking beer in my celebration. I think you guys all

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<v Speaker 1>know my nickname is Juice. I have juice on my pads.

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<v Speaker 1>The stadium yells juice when I catch the ball. When

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<v Speaker 1>I celebrate, I celebrate by drinking juice, and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>that way for years. So I was surprised as anybody

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<v Speaker 1>when I got a fine.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a big whiff by the NFL fine office.

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<v Speaker 3>$ 15, 000 for a beer? That's expensive no matter what liquor

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<v Speaker 3>store you're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Just clarify for me. Is this gin and juice we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about or just juice?

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<v Speaker 3>Straight up juice. I don't know what kind of juice,

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<v Speaker 3>but he did the celebration. Watch here. Take a little sip.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, if he would have done the crack open,

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<v Speaker 3>pour it all over himself, that's the beer move.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if I didn't know that he did the juice,

0:24:29.350 --> 0:24:31.810
<v Speaker 2>I would have thought beer. You don't really drink juice

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<v Speaker 2>like this, but he does.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me put you on the spot. Does the NFL

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<v Speaker 3>rescind this fine?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he can afford it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely not. If I'm him, I do like... You

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<v Speaker 3>can't prove it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to appeal that silly little fine? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>his wife makes a ton of money as an influencer

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<v Speaker 2>and a fashionista. He does not need the money. He

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:50.520
<v Speaker 2>went to Harvard. He's probably going to become a banker

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<v Speaker 2>after this.

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<v Speaker 3>His nickname's Juice. He's got a built-in excuse. If this

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<v Speaker 3>were Kittle, Kittle would have had, like, a beer bong

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<v Speaker 3>up there, and you'd have been like, this is no surprise.

0:24:57.290 --> 0:24:58.850
<v Speaker 2>But if it was Kittle, it would have been, right,

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<v Speaker 2>actual beer. It wouldn't have been anything symbolic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, chewed ahead, poured all over his head. All right,

0:25:03.130 --> 0:25:05.510
<v Speaker 3>some more good news. Let's go back to Chicago. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a great one. White Sox slugger. Munekawa Murakami and

0:25:10.270 --> 0:25:13.409
<v Speaker 3>his translator after clinching the division. Watch this as one

0:25:13.430 --> 0:25:14.210
<v Speaker 3>of the clips of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Mune, your first clubhouse celebration rated on a scale of

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<v Speaker 2>1 to 10.

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<v Speaker 3>How's it going so far?

0:25:21.060 --> 0:25:38.850
<v Speaker 2>How many champagne bottles have you opened so far? Just

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<v Speaker 2>what does it mean just to be able to celebrate

0:25:42.690 --> 0:25:54.479
<v Speaker 2>with this team? All right, we have a new favorite player.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew nothing about this guy, but I am 100

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<v Speaker 2>in on him.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fantastic. They asked him 1 to 10. He just

0:26:00.570 --> 0:26:03.510
<v Speaker 3>screams out 100. You know, they lost 100 games last year.

0:26:03.750 --> 0:26:06.450
<v Speaker 3>We talk about how you celebrate after making the postseason.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an apt celebration for the White Sox.

0:26:08.630 --> 0:26:10.690
<v Speaker 2>Well, I had to take that you don't over-celebrate too

0:26:10.710 --> 0:26:13.010
<v Speaker 2>much in baseball. I don't like that you clinch, then

0:26:13.030 --> 0:26:14.950
<v Speaker 2>you celebrate after the wild card and the divisional round,

0:26:15.130 --> 0:26:17.110
<v Speaker 2>especially if you're the New York Yankees. But if you're

0:26:17.130 --> 0:26:20.560
<v Speaker 2>the White Sox, celebrate away. This is my new favorite pitcher.

0:26:20.619 --> 0:26:23.340
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you hadn't heard of Murakami yet, everyone heard

0:26:23.380 --> 0:26:25.460
<v Speaker 3>about him based off this clip. That was really fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Kurt Warner was on the Dan Patrick Show earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>Great interview. He's calling the Bears-Eagles on Monday night, and

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<v Speaker 2>he weighed in on whether we should expect to see

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't expect him to play on Monday night. I

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<v Speaker 7>love the news that it doesn't seem like it's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be a long-term thing, but just knowing the way

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:48.020
<v Speaker 7>that Caleb plays, you know, and again, seeing the nature

0:26:48.060 --> 0:26:50.480
<v Speaker 7>of the injury, obviously it wasn't as bad as maybe

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 7>it looked like on the field, but seeing the nature

0:26:53.140 --> 0:26:56.020
<v Speaker 7>of that and knowing the movement being such a big

0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 7>part of what Caleb does, I can't believe they're going

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<v Speaker 7>to rush him out there. I can't believe he's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be there definitely on Monday night. And I feel

0:27:04.660 --> 0:27:08.209
<v Speaker 7>like it's going to be a few weeks you know,

0:27:08.290 --> 0:27:10.470
<v Speaker 7>injury or, you know, him on the sidelines for a

0:27:10.570 --> 0:27:13.290
<v Speaker 7>few weeks so he can get back healthy. So when

0:27:13.310 --> 0:27:16.109
<v Speaker 7>he does play, he can be the Caleb Williams that

0:27:16.130 --> 0:27:17.270
<v Speaker 7>we've seen over the last couple of years.

0:27:18.210 --> 0:27:20.670
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with Kurt there. You can't put Caleb

0:27:20.710 --> 0:27:22.949
<v Speaker 2>Williams out at 60% because he does like to run

0:27:22.970 --> 0:27:25.530
<v Speaker 2>around the pocket. Eagles have a good pass rush. He'll

0:27:25.570 --> 0:27:27.890
<v Speaker 2>get after him. What's the point? Does it matter that much?

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.540
<v Speaker 3>No, probably not. I am wondering, though, for the Bears,

0:27:30.580 --> 0:27:33.200
<v Speaker 3>is this gamesmanship by Ben Johnson and the PR staff?

0:27:33.490 --> 0:27:36.350
<v Speaker 3>They haven't named any starter. And it's Friday at one

0:27:36.390 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 3>o'clock in the afternoon almost.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they did. I mean, Tyson Badgen, the backup, the

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.500
<v Speaker 2>normal backups in the concussion protocol. And do we know

0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 2>where that stands?

0:27:43.340 --> 0:27:44.860
<v Speaker 3>So if you look at that, do you think they're

0:27:44.900 --> 0:27:48.420
<v Speaker 3>hoping for Bajan to get in there and holding, you know,

0:27:48.660 --> 0:27:51.060
<v Speaker 3>holding hope for or is it not anything with Caleb Williams?

0:27:52.020 --> 0:27:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a combo. I don't think they have

0:27:54.280 --> 0:27:56.640
<v Speaker 2>any idea on either one of them. I think there's

0:27:56.660 --> 0:27:59.220
<v Speaker 2>a little embarrassment around Caleb Williams because everyone made it

0:27:59.260 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>seem like the biggest deal. I really do think that's

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<v Speaker 2>a factor, Paul.

0:28:01.900 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Factor in whether they play him or not?

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.810
<v Speaker 2>I think Caleb Williams is going to tell the doctor,

0:28:06.030 --> 0:28:07.750
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go back out there. Yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous.

0:28:08.750 --> 0:28:09.610
<v Speaker 3>I think you're being facetious.

0:28:09.670 --> 0:28:12.330
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm actually not. I think if Caleb Williams is

0:28:12.369 --> 0:28:14.290
<v Speaker 2>a coin flip, A, he's going to protect his health.

0:28:14.369 --> 0:28:16.109
<v Speaker 2>That's the most important thing. He does not want to

0:28:16.150 --> 0:28:18.449
<v Speaker 2>go out and risk further injury. It would be stupid

0:28:18.470 --> 0:28:20.780
<v Speaker 2>to do that. Okay, I can But B, I do

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.060
<v Speaker 2>think in his subconscious, he is thinking, I've been made

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 2>fun of all week. Do I really want to jump

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<v Speaker 2>right back out there and make a fool of myself

0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:30.900
<v Speaker 2>and then not even play well against a really good team?

0:28:30.980 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I could see that being in his head, Caleb Williams,

0:28:32.700 --> 0:28:34.510
<v Speaker 3>that this is an awkward situation that I'm going to

0:28:34.530 --> 0:28:36.530
<v Speaker 3>have to address right after the game if I start

0:28:36.890 --> 0:28:38.830
<v Speaker 3>or next week. But do you think Ben Johnson is

0:28:38.850 --> 0:28:42.430
<v Speaker 3>giving any thought to the social media stuff as he

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<v Speaker 3>sets his lineup?

0:28:43.330 --> 0:28:46.940
<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, he's not. But Caleb might say something. Kurt

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:49.940
<v Speaker 2>Warner's point is great, though. Why on earth would you

0:28:50.020 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 2>risk a gimpy hamstring? Because if there's no Caleb Williams

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>for the season, a season with very high expectations, possible

0:28:56.060 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl is off.

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<v Speaker 3>See, what you need to do here is have Caleb

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:01.420
<v Speaker 3>Williams as your emergency quarterback. You've got to be down

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.850
<v Speaker 3>big at halftime. Then he runs out of the locker room,

0:29:03.980 --> 0:29:06.350
<v Speaker 3>takes off the parka, and saves the day like Jim

0:29:06.370 --> 0:29:07.620
<v Speaker 3>McMahon a thousand years ago.

0:29:07.650 --> 0:29:09.250
<v Speaker 2>I think he should walk out because he's got a

0:29:09.290 --> 0:29:12.350
<v Speaker 2>sore hamstring. I do not need to see him running out. Obviously,

0:29:12.370 --> 0:29:14.630
<v Speaker 2>I want to see Case Keenum because he's my buddy.

0:29:14.650 --> 0:29:18.730
<v Speaker 2>He'd probably be pretty good against the Eagles, quick passing game.

0:29:19.130 --> 0:29:21.130
<v Speaker 2>That's what Cale Williams needs to work on, by the way,

0:29:21.230 --> 0:29:23.610
<v Speaker 2>is how to pass out of the pocket. I'm very

0:29:23.670 --> 0:29:25.350
<v Speaker 2>curious to see what he's going to be like after

0:29:25.370 --> 0:29:27.190
<v Speaker 2>he gets back and he can't run as much because

0:29:27.210 --> 0:29:30.070
<v Speaker 2>he takes off on almost every play. He doesn't go downfield, Paul,

0:29:30.130 --> 0:29:31.990
<v Speaker 2>but he runs around to extend the play.

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.140
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think it's a really good situation for

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.630
<v Speaker 3>the Bears that they have two high-end backups where you

0:29:37.650 --> 0:29:39.970
<v Speaker 3>go back to the Giants, what their situation is. Real quick.

0:29:40.070 --> 0:29:44.150
<v Speaker 3>on another game or two, Kyler Murray's starting for the Vikings.

0:29:44.170 --> 0:29:46.690
<v Speaker 3>You've talked about that. We still don't know if Sam

0:29:46.730 --> 0:29:48.670
<v Speaker 3>Darnold is starting or not. Those are some weird ones.

0:29:49.130 --> 0:29:51.890
<v Speaker 2>Sam Darnold, the playing commanders, I don't think it really

0:29:51.930 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>makes a huge difference one way or the other. Drew

0:29:54.150 --> 0:29:57.260
<v Speaker 2>Locke was just as good as Sam Darnold. Again, it

0:29:57.300 --> 0:29:59.480
<v Speaker 2>gets inferior competition. You've got to look at the big picture.

0:30:00.180 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I think they're going to play Darnold so he gets

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.000
<v Speaker 2>ready for the rest of the season. I don't think

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>this is a must-win.

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.660
<v Speaker 3>You don't do the abundance of caution thing with Darnold,

0:30:06.700 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 3>say we could sit him for a week and Drew

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:09.260
<v Speaker 3>Locke is doing great.

0:30:09.700 --> 0:30:11.630
<v Speaker 2>I actually would do the abundance of caution and keep

0:30:11.670 --> 0:30:14.230
<v Speaker 2>Kyler Murray out. I don't understand the rush. They're 2-0

0:30:14.250 --> 0:30:14.990
<v Speaker 2>with Carson Wentz.

0:30:15.110 --> 0:30:16.670
<v Speaker 3>That's going to be interesting. All right, coming up next,

0:30:16.710 --> 0:30:20.950
<v Speaker 3>we have our guy, Paul Burmeister, former Iowa Hawkeyes quarterback,

0:30:20.990 --> 0:30:23.220
<v Speaker 3>number 16 from NBC Sports. He's going to get us

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 3>all set up for the huge college football weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around.

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<v Speaker 3>Not so fast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff. He's Paul Papps.

0:30:31.060 --> 0:30:34.610
<v Speaker 2>Massive college football weekend ahead. And, Paul, when we started

0:30:34.630 --> 0:30:36.530
<v Speaker 2>the show, one of the guys at NBC that we

0:30:36.630 --> 0:30:39.090
<v Speaker 2>love and have known a long time, of course, former

0:30:39.250 --> 0:30:46.220
<v Speaker 2>Iowa quarterback and NBC analyst. Play-by-play. Paul Burmeister. Paul, how

0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:47.540
<v Speaker 2>are you doing, buddy? It's great to see you.

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:50.140
<v Speaker 5>All right. Good to see you guys. Good to hear

0:30:50.180 --> 0:30:51.620
<v Speaker 5>your voices. It has been a while.

0:30:51.770 --> 0:30:54.830
<v Speaker 8>I was I thought I'd be at my hotel room working,

0:30:54.910 --> 0:30:56.970
<v Speaker 8>but we had some meetings a little late. We were

0:30:57.010 --> 0:30:59.570
<v Speaker 8>over here checking out the booth. So I'm in the

0:30:59.610 --> 0:31:01.670
<v Speaker 8>booth here at Ross State Stadium and it all looks

0:31:01.690 --> 0:31:02.270
<v Speaker 8>good to me.

0:31:02.930 --> 0:31:03.770
<v Speaker 5>My little workspace.

0:31:03.790 --> 0:31:04.950
<v Speaker 3>Look at you with the shot.

0:31:04.970 --> 0:31:05.460
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:05.700 --> 0:31:06.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:31:06.100 --> 0:31:06.719
<v Speaker 2>So.

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.300
<v Speaker 3>Paul, before we get to Notre Dame, we're going to

0:31:10.340 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 3>chop up Notre Dame-Purdue. You played in the Big Ten.

0:31:13.220 --> 0:31:16.020
<v Speaker 3>You played for Iowa, good old number 16. Was there

0:31:16.060 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 3>a real rough spot on the road in the Big

0:31:18.100 --> 0:31:19.150
<v Speaker 3>Ten where the fans got on you?

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.980
<v Speaker 8>At home when I wasn't playing well is where they

0:31:24.020 --> 0:31:26.700
<v Speaker 8>got on me the most. But I always said that

0:31:26.740 --> 0:31:28.380
<v Speaker 8>the hardest place to play in the Big Ten, and

0:31:28.700 --> 0:31:30.620
<v Speaker 8>it's not a mystery because Ohio State has so many

0:31:30.660 --> 0:31:33.940
<v Speaker 8>good players, but Ohio State, I think, was the toughest

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:37.340
<v Speaker 8>place to play in terms of environment. Wisconsin was always hard.

0:31:37.380 --> 0:31:40.540
<v Speaker 8>Michigan State was tough back then. Michigan was fun. It

0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:42.219
<v Speaker 8>was great to be in the big house, but it's

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.250
<v Speaker 8>not a super loud place. like intimidating crowd in terms

0:31:46.290 --> 0:31:48.330
<v Speaker 8>of crowd noise. They just have really good players. So

0:31:48.790 --> 0:31:51.610
<v Speaker 8>I would say Ohio State was the hardest place, total

0:31:51.670 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 8>atmosphere to play.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, would you ever imagine that a Purdue Notre Dame

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.700
<v Speaker 2>game would be a battle to see who's the second

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.350
<v Speaker 2>best football team in Indiana? No.

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<v Speaker 5>Isn't that crazy how far the Hoosiers have come?

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<v Speaker 8>Now, this year, it would be a heck of a

0:32:05.450 --> 0:32:09.770
<v Speaker 8>game between between Indiana and Notre Dame. And Purdue's got

0:32:09.790 --> 0:32:12.190
<v Speaker 8>a great quarterback, guys. This could be a really fun

0:32:12.270 --> 0:32:15.250
<v Speaker 8>one tomorrow if Ryan Brown ends up heating up.

0:32:16.110 --> 0:32:18.230
<v Speaker 3>You know, let's get to CJ Carr for a second, because,

0:32:18.350 --> 0:32:20.810
<v Speaker 3>you know, he hasn't had a breakout game this year.

0:32:20.870 --> 0:32:23.310
<v Speaker 3>He's doing fine work. It does seem like Notre Dame

0:32:23.330 --> 0:32:26.090
<v Speaker 3>is leading with their defense. If they go for, you know,

0:32:26.130 --> 0:32:27.650
<v Speaker 3>real deep this year, is it defense first?

0:32:29.020 --> 0:32:31.540
<v Speaker 8>The defense is elite. I mean, I think you're very safe.

0:32:31.780 --> 0:32:35.060
<v Speaker 8>Paulie's saying it's a top five, potentially number one defense

0:32:35.540 --> 0:32:36.140
<v Speaker 8>in the country.

0:32:36.220 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 5>They are legitimately that good on every level.

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.500
<v Speaker 8>And I think because of that and because of the

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 8>way CJ Carr plays, I mean, he's not going to

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.940
<v Speaker 8>throw for 400 yards very often, if at all.

0:32:47.010 --> 0:32:49.130
<v Speaker 5>He might not throw for 300 yards that often.

0:32:49.630 --> 0:32:52.310
<v Speaker 8>But he could be 17 out of 22 for 270,

0:32:52.310 --> 0:32:55.290
<v Speaker 8>three touchdowns, no picks, and do it again the next week.

0:32:55.390 --> 0:32:57.850
<v Speaker 8>So this will be interesting to keep an eye on.

0:32:57.990 --> 0:32:59.670
<v Speaker 8>I know his name comes up a lot in the

0:32:59.710 --> 0:33:05.530
<v Speaker 8>Heisman conversation. His numbers will be overwhelmingly efficient and consistent.

0:33:05.890 --> 0:33:08.250
<v Speaker 8>Will they be giants enough for people to buy in

0:33:08.270 --> 0:33:08.930
<v Speaker 8>for the Heisman?

0:33:09.270 --> 0:33:09.610
<v Speaker 5>We'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's some big matchups. Notre Dame, nothing against Purdue,

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:16.900
<v Speaker 2>but down the road you see Miami. C.J. Carr, I

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:19.340
<v Speaker 2>have a question about him. I'm seeing mock drafts. Some

0:33:19.480 --> 0:33:21.860
<v Speaker 2>have him as a top five guy. But then I

0:33:21.900 --> 0:33:23.610
<v Speaker 2>heard Mel Kiper the other day say, well, there's a

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.850
<v Speaker 2>chance C.J. Carr stays at Notre Dame to sort of

0:33:26.930 --> 0:33:29.610
<v Speaker 2>finish business there. Say Notre Dame doesn't win the title

0:33:29.650 --> 0:33:32.070
<v Speaker 2>this year, which I think is the expectation. Do you

0:33:32.090 --> 0:33:34.430
<v Speaker 2>see any chance that C.J. Carr would be a long

0:33:34.470 --> 0:33:35.150
<v Speaker 2>term player there?

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.220
<v Speaker 8>I was just talking to my analyst on the drive

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<v Speaker 8>over about this Yogi Roth. And I think, I mean,

0:33:41.040 --> 0:33:43.200
<v Speaker 8>I don't know where it goes ultimately, but I do

0:33:43.240 --> 0:33:46.410
<v Speaker 8>think it's a conversation where it wasn't a conversation in

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.470
<v Speaker 8>the past. And I don't know the exact number CJ

0:33:48.510 --> 0:33:50.190
<v Speaker 8>Carr is making, but he's one of the best quarterbacks

0:33:50.210 --> 0:33:50.750
<v Speaker 8>in the country.

0:33:51.150 --> 0:33:53.610
<v Speaker 5>He's at Notre Dame. I mean, it's, I'm sure it's

0:33:53.650 --> 0:33:54.470
<v Speaker 5>a pretty big number.

0:33:54.870 --> 0:33:58.270
<v Speaker 8>So if he loves it at ND, if he loves

0:33:58.310 --> 0:34:01.070
<v Speaker 8>playing for Mike Denbrock, the offensive coordinator, if he stays,

0:34:01.470 --> 0:34:03.270
<v Speaker 8>if they keep a lot of talent at receiver and,

0:34:04.250 --> 0:34:06.710
<v Speaker 8>At the very least, it's a discussion with him and

0:34:06.750 --> 0:34:09.230
<v Speaker 8>his family and maybe it's a reality. And I think

0:34:09.250 --> 0:34:11.359
<v Speaker 8>that's one of the cool parts of NIL is that

0:34:11.400 --> 0:34:14.400
<v Speaker 8>some of these players who are defining college football right

0:34:14.420 --> 0:34:17.140
<v Speaker 8>now because of the money they're making, they may choose

0:34:17.180 --> 0:34:19.420
<v Speaker 8>to stay instead of coming out and going to a

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:21.460
<v Speaker 8>team that who knows, you know, maybe he'd rather be

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:24.190
<v Speaker 8>the quarterback at Notre Dame than one or two of

0:34:24.210 --> 0:34:25.310
<v Speaker 8>the teams that are in the top five.

0:34:25.330 --> 0:34:28.689
<v Speaker 3>You know, clearly Marcus Freeman has a national title-ish team there,

0:34:28.730 --> 0:34:31.500
<v Speaker 3>especially on the defensive Their schedule, in some parts, is

0:34:31.540 --> 0:34:33.779
<v Speaker 3>not the hardest. And that's fair to say, as opposed

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 3>to some other teams. You don't want a loss. I

0:34:36.320 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 3>hate when people say they need a loss. But do

0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 3>you need a tester game? Do you need a surprise

0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:42.719
<v Speaker 3>game where Notre Dame's down like 10 points to start

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:44.320
<v Speaker 3>the fourth quarter? Do you need that before the playoffs?

0:34:45.380 --> 0:34:46.980
<v Speaker 8>I think it's a great point, and I think it's

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 8>something that the coaches would say they would want as well.

0:34:50.150 --> 0:34:54.150
<v Speaker 8>They play at BYU, nationally ranked team here coming up,

0:34:54.190 --> 0:34:57.650
<v Speaker 8>so that'll be a tough one. Again, their pass defense

0:34:57.710 --> 0:35:00.089
<v Speaker 8>is going to be tested here tomorrow, like it has

0:35:00.110 --> 0:35:04.029
<v Speaker 8>in this entire year. But I think ideally, if you

0:35:04.050 --> 0:35:06.530
<v Speaker 8>pick out the perfect scenario, you're a Notre Dame coach

0:35:06.590 --> 0:35:09.660
<v Speaker 8>or fan, they're still unbeaten when they take on Miami,

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:12.420
<v Speaker 8>but they've been in some tough games, some one-score games

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:14.299
<v Speaker 8>in the third and fourth quarter by the time they

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:14.620
<v Speaker 8>get there.

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:17.500
<v Speaker 3>You played at Iowa. We talked about Iowa a little

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:20.390
<v Speaker 3>bit earlier. Sometimes there's those teams where early in the season,

0:35:20.410 --> 0:35:22.830
<v Speaker 3>they're 3-0, 4-0, and you think they could do something.

0:35:22.989 --> 0:35:25.210
<v Speaker 3>Iowa's got a great defense. And when you look at

0:35:25.290 --> 0:35:28.290
<v Speaker 3>a team like Iowa in the Big Ten, they're going

0:35:28.310 --> 0:35:31.040
<v Speaker 3>up against Penn State soon. They're at Michigan tomorrow. What

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 3>does a team like Iowa need to do to take

0:35:33.219 --> 0:35:34.320
<v Speaker 3>that jump and get to the playoffs?

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:37.790
<v Speaker 8>Well, I was got a super tough stretch here coming up, guys.

0:35:37.810 --> 0:35:41.290
<v Speaker 8>They've got Michigan tomorrow afternoon. They've got Ohio State at

0:35:41.350 --> 0:35:44.069
<v Speaker 8>home and they're at Washington. I know Washington hasn't been

0:35:44.510 --> 0:35:46.819
<v Speaker 8>their best yet, but that's a really good team, too.

0:35:46.860 --> 0:35:49.480
<v Speaker 8>So that three game stretch is going to tell us

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.980
<v Speaker 8>a lot about them. Iowa, in some ways, guys, only

0:35:53.020 --> 0:35:55.799
<v Speaker 8>the names change. The defense is fantastic. I think ranked

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:58.109
<v Speaker 8>number one in the country. They have a better passing

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.069
<v Speaker 8>game than usual. They really like Hank Brown. They've got

0:36:01.090 --> 0:36:03.830
<v Speaker 8>some pass catchers of the caliber that they haven't had

0:36:03.890 --> 0:36:06.830
<v Speaker 8>for a while. So keep an eye on Iowa these

0:36:06.890 --> 0:36:09.050
<v Speaker 8>next three weeks, not just because I went there, but.

0:36:09.150 --> 0:36:10.830
<v Speaker 5>I think they're better than people think.

0:36:11.310 --> 0:36:13.650
<v Speaker 8>And they've got some, I mean, these are beyond litmus

0:36:13.690 --> 0:36:14.989
<v Speaker 8>tests they've got the next three weeks.

0:36:15.370 --> 0:36:16.450
<v Speaker 5>These are really tough games.

0:36:16.550 --> 0:36:18.609
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Paul, you know us, Perloff and Pabst. You know

0:36:18.650 --> 0:36:20.290
<v Speaker 3>how we roll. We've hung out with you before. I

0:36:20.330 --> 0:36:23.710
<v Speaker 3>think we hung out like at a Brown-Dartmouth game years ago,

0:36:23.730 --> 0:36:25.180
<v Speaker 3>which is very random.

0:36:25.380 --> 0:36:25.819
<v Speaker 2>Ivy League, yeah.

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:27.700
<v Speaker 3>We do a thing here called such thing as a

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.620
<v Speaker 3>dumb question. You play quarterback. We never did. Not even close.

0:36:31.300 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 3>He was in the band. I played archery. When you're

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:36.610
<v Speaker 3>at halftime and you're the starting quarterback at Iowa or

0:36:36.650 --> 0:36:39.610
<v Speaker 3>in an NFL team, what does the quarterback do at halftime?

0:36:39.650 --> 0:36:41.950
<v Speaker 3>We probably think they go to the bathroom, get an

0:36:42.050 --> 0:36:44.430
<v Speaker 3>orange slice. Do they meet with certain people? Do they

0:36:44.469 --> 0:36:46.380
<v Speaker 3>talk to their team? Walk us through halftime for a

0:36:46.380 --> 0:36:47.860
<v Speaker 3>pro quarterback or a college quarterback.

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.100
<v Speaker 5>Great question. All I know is how we did it

0:36:51.140 --> 0:36:52.419
<v Speaker 5>in Iowa City back in the day.

0:36:53.020 --> 0:36:54.259
<v Speaker 8>And I don't know if you guys have been to

0:36:54.300 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 8>Kinnick Stadium, but our locker rooms back then were on

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 8>the opposite side of the field as the press box.

0:36:59.620 --> 0:37:03.210
<v Speaker 8>So our coaches literally had to take an old elevator down,

0:37:03.450 --> 0:37:06.049
<v Speaker 8>sprint across the field, get up to our locker room,

0:37:06.070 --> 0:37:08.430
<v Speaker 8>which is a lot of steps. And probably talked to

0:37:08.450 --> 0:37:11.089
<v Speaker 8>us for about three minutes. So the most important part

0:37:11.130 --> 0:37:14.850
<v Speaker 8>for me was talking to the other quarterbacks about what

0:37:14.930 --> 0:37:18.630
<v Speaker 8>they saw. And that was the most helpful just because

0:37:19.190 --> 0:37:21.430
<v Speaker 8>our coordinator only had a couple minutes to chat with

0:37:21.489 --> 0:37:22.799
<v Speaker 8>us by the time he made it all the way

0:37:22.860 --> 0:37:23.240
<v Speaker 8>over there.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:25.540
<v Speaker 5>So thankfully, we all got along.

0:37:25.660 --> 0:37:27.980
<v Speaker 8>And I trusted the other guys in that room because

0:37:28.100 --> 0:37:31.540
<v Speaker 8>most of the halftime was with my fellow QBs as

0:37:31.620 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 8>opposed to the coaches.

0:37:32.700 --> 0:37:36.380
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is interesting. No rah-rah speech? No get fired up?

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.060
<v Speaker 2>Nothing like that?

0:37:37.780 --> 0:37:40.359
<v Speaker 5>Sometimes get yelled at if I wasn't playing well, but no.

0:37:41.100 --> 0:37:42.580
<v Speaker 5>Not too many rah-rah speeches, no.

0:37:42.700 --> 0:37:44.819
<v Speaker 2>That was a rare occasion when you weren't on point

0:37:44.860 --> 0:37:46.860
<v Speaker 2>at Iowa. Paul, thanks for your time. Say hi to

0:37:46.890 --> 0:37:49.970
<v Speaker 2>Yogi for us. We had him on. Absolutely. Awesome. Enjoy

0:37:50.050 --> 0:37:52.410
<v Speaker 2>the game. 2 o'clock on Peacock. No name at Purdue.

0:37:52.430 --> 0:37:53.370
<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to you later, Paul.

0:37:54.060 --> 0:37:54.779
<v Speaker 5>Good to see you guys.

0:37:54.820 --> 0:37:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me. Former Big Ten quarterback. Remember back

0:37:59.020 --> 0:38:00.660
<v Speaker 3>in the day, Iowa had the tight ends that stood

0:38:00.739 --> 0:38:02.339
<v Speaker 3>upright at the line of scrimmage? I wanted to ask

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:03.450
<v Speaker 3>him about that. Maybe next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Alright, Paul. It is a big college football weekend, not

0:38:06.430 --> 0:38:08.469
<v Speaker 2>only in the rankings, but for the Heisman.

0:38:09.090 --> 0:38:11.130
<v Speaker 3>Let's play a little getting the Heisman. I'm ready to play.

0:38:11.190 --> 0:38:13.910
<v Speaker 3>We do it every week here. Your guy, Camario Taylor

0:38:14.130 --> 0:38:16.610
<v Speaker 3>at Mississippi State. Big weekend for him. You've got to

0:38:16.630 --> 0:38:23.290
<v Speaker 3>like that. Arch Mannings. Here's Arch Mannings' next six weeks. Tennessee, Oklahoma, Florida...

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:28.819
<v Speaker 3>Ole Miss. Mississippi State, Mizzou, and LSU. If you run

0:38:28.900 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 3>through that, you're going to New York. You're probably going

0:38:31.060 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 3>to New York anyway.

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:34.020
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's all about wins and losses. He could probably

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:35.980
<v Speaker 2>afford two losses and still be.

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:37.399
<v Speaker 3>Does he seem a little low there in the odds?

0:38:37.860 --> 0:38:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, he hasn't played that great. Here's the guy who

0:38:40.380 --> 0:38:41.940
<v Speaker 2>I think is going to fall, and this is not

0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 2>going to be popular. I think Trinidad and Chavalis has

0:38:44.100 --> 0:38:46.379
<v Speaker 2>been amazing. I think he's a first-round pick. I think

0:38:46.420 --> 0:38:48.300
<v Speaker 2>Ole Miss is going to come back to earth. If

0:38:48.340 --> 0:38:51.489
<v Speaker 2>it's not against Florida, it's soon, because they look terrible

0:38:51.510 --> 0:38:53.689
<v Speaker 2>in the second half against Louisville. They look terrible against

0:38:53.810 --> 0:38:56.250
<v Speaker 2>LSU in the second half. I think they're due a loss.

0:38:56.330 --> 0:38:59.070
<v Speaker 2>I hate to be that guy. I get why Florida's favored.

0:38:59.130 --> 0:39:02.570
<v Speaker 2>So if Ole Miss loses and Chambliss falls off, Mensa's

0:39:02.610 --> 0:39:03.310
<v Speaker 2>got injuries.

0:39:03.350 --> 0:39:04.629
<v Speaker 3>That's what I was going to ask you. Your guy,

0:39:04.650 --> 0:39:06.910
<v Speaker 3>Darian Mensa, the quarterback at Miami, does he have enough

0:39:07.030 --> 0:39:08.450
<v Speaker 3>big games in the next four weeks?

0:39:08.910 --> 0:39:10.930
<v Speaker 2>Well, no. He's got Notre Dame, which you talked to

0:39:10.969 --> 0:39:13.250
<v Speaker 2>Paul about, in November. You don't want anything in the

0:39:13.270 --> 0:39:14.590
<v Speaker 2>next four weeks, Paul. You know the Heisman.

0:39:14.610 --> 0:39:15.370
<v Speaker 3>That's a closing game.

0:39:15.670 --> 0:39:18.950
<v Speaker 2>That's a closing game. Voters look at November games much

0:39:19.010 --> 0:39:21.790
<v Speaker 2>more closely than now. Who cares if Miami beats Florida

0:39:21.870 --> 0:39:24.400
<v Speaker 2>A &amp; M? But Menta and Miami, they have to

0:39:24.460 --> 0:39:27.359
<v Speaker 2>stay healthy. The running game went away last Friday night

0:39:27.700 --> 0:39:29.509
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden Mensah couldn't complete a pass.

0:39:29.860 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 2>So I think there's a long way to go. I

0:39:31.760 --> 0:39:34.460
<v Speaker 2>feel like my pick, Malachi Toney, is fifth in odds.

0:39:34.500 --> 0:39:35.140
<v Speaker 2>I'm sticking there.

0:39:35.420 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 3>Sticking with him. And Smith from Ohio State, he's still

0:39:38.060 --> 0:39:38.379
<v Speaker 3>in the mix?

0:39:39.020 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. Jeremiah Smith's third in the odds. I

0:39:41.739 --> 0:39:44.020
<v Speaker 2>have a feeling it could be a wide receiver, not

0:39:44.060 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback. But we'll see. It's a huge weekend.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:47.989
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a lot of fun. A lot coming up

0:39:48.030 --> 0:39:48.299
<v Speaker 3>this weekend.

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:49.910
<v Speaker 2>All right. Paul, we'll get more into some of the

0:39:49.950 --> 0:39:53.210
<v Speaker 2>college games, and we'll talk about our headlines for Monday

0:39:53.330 --> 0:39:54.490
<v Speaker 2>next on Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>Pabst and Perloff here from Not So Fast. We're outside

0:39:58.550 --> 0:40:01.970
<v Speaker 3>because it's beautiful in this fall, and it's time to eat, drink,

0:40:02.110 --> 0:40:03.870
<v Speaker 3>and watch football. That's what we do. It's time for

0:40:03.890 --> 0:40:05.230
<v Speaker 3>the Pub and Grub of the Week. We do it

0:40:05.310 --> 0:40:07.590
<v Speaker 3>every week here on social media. You give us your ideas,

0:40:07.630 --> 0:40:12.070
<v Speaker 3>your recommendations, help people out. We're going to State College Pennsylvania.

0:40:12.190 --> 0:40:14.370
<v Speaker 3>Penn State got a home game this weekend. You've been there.

0:40:14.390 --> 0:40:14.790
<v Speaker 3>Fill us in.

0:40:14.950 --> 0:40:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me? I grew up in Philadelphia. State

0:40:17.219 --> 0:40:20.469
<v Speaker 2>College is a big deal for Philadelphians. You go Hershey Park,

0:40:20.730 --> 0:40:23.130
<v Speaker 2>then you go see Penn State, and it's amazing. It's

0:40:23.150 --> 0:40:26.620
<v Speaker 2>this massive football stadium, comes out of nowhere in the fields,

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 2>and the town is cool too.

0:40:27.980 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe I haven't been there. E on me.

0:40:30.410 --> 0:40:32.969
<v Speaker 3>Here we go. A lot of recommendations, a lot of feedback.

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<v Speaker 3>McClanahan's Downtown Market. Now, when you walk up, it looks

0:40:36.430 --> 0:40:38.270
<v Speaker 3>like a grocery store because it is. But it's a

0:40:38.310 --> 0:40:40.750
<v Speaker 3>grocery store that has a deli, and then it has

0:40:40.790 --> 0:40:42.819
<v Speaker 3>a full bar in the back. It's a place where

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.339
<v Speaker 3>you can do your own taps. You control your own taps.

0:40:45.620 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 3>So you walk in, you grab a basket, you get

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 3>yourself a big sandwich, you maybe get some stuff for

0:40:50.260 --> 0:40:52.980
<v Speaker 3>the kids at home. Then you go over, pull some taps,

0:40:53.100 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and they've got TVs to watch football. It's a market

0:40:56.280 --> 0:41:00.130
<v Speaker 3>and a bar together. That's genius. McClanahan's Downtown Market.

0:41:00.190 --> 0:41:03.850
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts? A grocery store with make-your-own-beer? This sounds like

0:41:03.870 --> 0:41:05.590
<v Speaker 2>the best grocery store in the world.

0:41:05.650 --> 0:41:07.170
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think we should go there now. And I

0:41:07.190 --> 0:41:08.920
<v Speaker 3>mean now, like now, we should leave here and get

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:12.060
<v Speaker 3>in a car. It's like five hours. McClanahan's Downtown Market.

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.580
<v Speaker 3>Give us your ideas, Penn State or other. We do

0:41:14.600 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 3>this every week. It's called the Pub and Grub of

0:41:15.940 --> 0:41:16.140
<v Speaker 3>the Week.

0:41:17.810 --> 0:41:19.690
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back, Not So Fast. A lot going on there.

0:41:19.730 --> 0:41:21.090
<v Speaker 2>By the way, next time we do that video, I

0:41:21.110 --> 0:41:23.430
<v Speaker 2>should stand in back because I look gigantic. But Paul,

0:41:23.510 --> 0:41:26.390
<v Speaker 2>this is a grocery store that has a bar and

0:41:26.430 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 2>a restaurant? Yeah, yeah.

0:41:27.840 --> 0:41:29.739
<v Speaker 3>I'm embarrassed at two things in my life. I've never

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 3>been to a Penn State home game. I've never been

0:41:31.540 --> 0:41:34.060
<v Speaker 3>to McClanahan's. So you go through the deli And then

0:41:34.100 --> 0:41:36.660
<v Speaker 3>there's just taps everywhere in TVs. It's like heaven. I

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:38.260
<v Speaker 3>don't know who invented this, but they're a genius.

0:41:38.340 --> 0:41:40.759
<v Speaker 2>The tailgating is weird there, though, because there are these

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:44.180
<v Speaker 2>big grass parking lots. It's all over the place. You're

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:46.500
<v Speaker 2>in a cornfield tailgating, which is kind of cool. You

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.779
<v Speaker 2>don't think of Penn State necessarily as rural. It is.

0:41:49.100 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 3>I'll tailgate anywhere. I'll tailgate at a funeral, for God's sake.

0:41:52.060 --> 0:41:52.500
<v Speaker 3>Sign me up.

0:41:52.580 --> 0:41:56.410
<v Speaker 2>All right, Paul, let's jump into Monday's leads today. You

0:41:56.430 --> 0:41:57.259
<v Speaker 2>want to go first or you want me to go?

0:41:57.510 --> 0:41:59.270
<v Speaker 3>I'll go first, and I think this is a big one.

0:41:59.770 --> 0:42:02.150
<v Speaker 3>Chargers versus Bills, the result of that is going to

0:42:02.170 --> 0:42:04.509
<v Speaker 3>be one of the Monday leads. And I think everyone's

0:42:04.550 --> 0:42:06.700
<v Speaker 3>expecting the Bills to handle this. But after what happened

0:42:06.739 --> 0:42:09.540
<v Speaker 3>last night, I look at the Chargers a little differently.

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:11.250
<v Speaker 3>I don't think the Chargers could be as bad as

0:42:11.270 --> 0:42:13.750
<v Speaker 3>they've been the past couple weeks. And I'm picking the

0:42:13.830 --> 0:42:16.540
<v Speaker 3>Chargers to win this one. and totally turn it around

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:17.779
<v Speaker 3>for one day, and the Bills are going to get

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:19.460
<v Speaker 3>lit up if they lose this game.

0:42:19.500 --> 0:42:21.380
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a really bold call. I don't know how

0:42:21.420 --> 0:42:23.900
<v Speaker 2>the Falcons playing well will help the Chargers on the field.

0:42:23.960 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 3>It's like osmosis. Hey, we could do that too. We

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.439
<v Speaker 3>stunk two weeks, but we could have a great game.

0:42:28.540 --> 0:42:31.390
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the Chargers have done a lot of things wrong.

0:42:31.550 --> 0:42:34.230
<v Speaker 2>They have not blocked for Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert has

0:42:34.270 --> 0:42:36.910
<v Speaker 2>not made good decisions. They can't run the ball, and

0:42:36.950 --> 0:42:38.569
<v Speaker 2>their pass defense has not been good.

0:42:38.590 --> 0:42:39.049
<v Speaker 3>Other than that?

0:42:39.630 --> 0:42:42.910
<v Speaker 2>All of this is very, very bad for Buffalo because

0:42:42.930 --> 0:42:45.770
<v Speaker 2>the Bills have been amazing in everything. They've been getting

0:42:45.830 --> 0:42:50.090
<v Speaker 2>after the quarterback, and Josh Allen is perfect. So I

0:42:50.150 --> 0:42:52.150
<v Speaker 2>like this, and we will definitely pull this back if

0:42:52.190 --> 0:42:54.490
<v Speaker 2>you're right. I don't know, Paul. You got a little

0:42:54.530 --> 0:42:55.700
<v Speaker 2>lucky with the Falcons, I think.

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think so. They just told me they'll pull

0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.140
<v Speaker 3>this back when I'm wrong as well. What do you got?

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to stay in L.A. for my Monday's headline.

0:43:01.739 --> 0:43:04.779
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night, Rams at Broncos. Really close spread. This is

0:43:04.820 --> 0:43:07.500
<v Speaker 2>my Super Bowl pick. I think the Rams have an

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 2>impressive win here. This is going to be a really,

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:11.180
<v Speaker 2>really close game. I don't think we're going to see

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Puka Nakua, maybe no Puka Nakua. So

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.100
<v Speaker 2>it's a challenge for the Rams. But the Broncos were

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.700
<v Speaker 2>inconsistent against the Jags. They didn't look good for three quarters.

0:43:18.969 --> 0:43:21.569
<v Speaker 2>Then they played Bronco football. You can't do that against

0:43:21.590 --> 0:43:24.530
<v Speaker 2>the Rams. I think people got down on L.A. because

0:43:24.570 --> 0:43:27.850
<v Speaker 2>of Australia. There's no need. They have plenty of rest.

0:43:27.870 --> 0:43:29.910
<v Speaker 2>We're going to put that story to bed. I think

0:43:29.950 --> 0:43:33.570
<v Speaker 2>we come in Monday saying the Rams are back. Dream team.

0:43:33.630 --> 0:43:35.910
<v Speaker 2>Remember all that preseason talk? I think it's back on

0:43:36.110 --> 0:43:36.900
<v Speaker 2>when we come back here.

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:39.299
<v Speaker 3>Even if there's injuries, even though Miles Garrett, let's say

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 3>Puka doesn't play out of another abundance of caution, you

0:43:41.620 --> 0:43:42.879
<v Speaker 3>think the backups can handle things?

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I think so. It's a close spread, two and a

0:43:45.180 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 2>half point favorite for L.A. You know what? People are

0:43:48.260 --> 0:43:50.049
<v Speaker 2>going to say, what is this team going to be

0:43:50.070 --> 0:43:52.770
<v Speaker 2>when Miles Garrett gets back, when Nakua gets back, when

0:43:52.810 --> 0:43:55.170
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Donald sort of gets his sea legs underneath him? Ugh.

0:43:55.710 --> 0:43:57.390
<v Speaker 2>Second half of the season, the Rams are going to

0:43:57.410 --> 0:43:57.729
<v Speaker 2>be tough.

0:43:57.810 --> 0:43:59.670
<v Speaker 3>That's what I think. I think the second half they are.

0:43:59.830 --> 0:44:01.469
<v Speaker 3>I like the Broncos here, and I think we're going

0:44:01.489 --> 0:44:02.710
<v Speaker 3>to get to it in our Keep It Friendly picks,

0:44:02.750 --> 0:44:05.430
<v Speaker 3>but the Broncos feel like they better right the ship

0:44:05.469 --> 0:44:07.509
<v Speaker 3>pretty quick because they don't want to get where they're

0:44:07.550 --> 0:44:09.210
<v Speaker 3>chasing a little bit. I think the Rams are going

0:44:09.230 --> 0:44:11.210
<v Speaker 3>to be just fine. That talent's going to work itself out.

0:44:11.489 --> 0:44:13.490
<v Speaker 3>When Puka and Miles are back, they're going to be unstoppable.

0:44:13.610 --> 0:44:15.770
<v Speaker 2>Remember that narrative, Bo Nix wins all the close games

0:44:15.830 --> 0:44:18.710
<v Speaker 2>last year. So if this is a close game, that's

0:44:18.730 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 2>when Bo Nix shines, but you're not going to shine

0:44:20.780 --> 0:44:23.379
<v Speaker 2>against the Rams tonight. This is a very, very important game.

0:44:23.400 --> 0:44:25.020
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's chop up some more games. Let's keep

0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:26.680
<v Speaker 3>it friendly. We like to bet a little bit. We

0:44:26.739 --> 0:44:29.279
<v Speaker 3>actually bet real money, usually 20 a game. I think

0:44:29.300 --> 0:44:31.580
<v Speaker 3>you're up on me, Pearl. Let's start with that one.

0:44:31.600 --> 0:44:34.190
<v Speaker 3>Let's start with Rams at Broncos. Rams are giving 2.5.

0:44:34.190 --> 0:44:35.910
<v Speaker 3>I will let you pick your team.

0:44:36.070 --> 0:44:37.890
<v Speaker 2>Well, I already went Rams. I've got to stick with that,

0:44:37.969 --> 0:44:40.610
<v Speaker 2>and I think they cover. It's going to be a tight,

0:44:40.830 --> 0:44:44.319
<v Speaker 2>interesting game. You know the total is only 43.5? With

0:44:44.390 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Bo Nix and Matthew Stafford, that's really low.

0:44:46.380 --> 0:44:47.739
<v Speaker 3>That's probably the lowest in the Stafford area.

0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a function of Denver. Sean Payton and

0:44:50.420 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Sean McVay should be a lot higher. I like the

0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:53.060
<v Speaker 2>Rams to win.

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:55.180
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'll take the Broncos as I like them a

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:58.700
<v Speaker 3>little bit. Vikings at the Buccaneers. Man, this is huge. Vikings,

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.340
<v Speaker 3>one and a half point favorite. I wouldn't say it's

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:02.960
<v Speaker 3>the last call for the Bucs, but they better get

0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:03.340
<v Speaker 3>it together.

0:45:03.580 --> 0:45:06.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, okay, if you're inspired by Atlanta for the Chargers,

0:45:06.660 --> 0:45:08.600
<v Speaker 2>why wouldn't you be inspired for the Bucs, a home

0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 2>game against a team with a new quarterback? I think

0:45:11.700 --> 0:45:13.330
<v Speaker 2>this is a Tampa bounce back.

0:45:13.550 --> 0:45:15.210
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is going to be really interesting. And the

0:45:15.250 --> 0:45:18.150
<v Speaker 3>fallout from this game, if Kyler Murray loses and plays poorly,

0:45:18.870 --> 0:45:20.310
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how long that leash is.

0:45:21.110 --> 0:45:23.970
<v Speaker 2>No, they like Carson Wentz, I think. You know what?

0:45:24.050 --> 0:45:27.120
<v Speaker 2>The Bucs are a big concern. Is Baker Mayfield still

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 2>good without Mike Evans? I'm a little worried about that.

0:45:29.100 --> 0:45:30.860
<v Speaker 3>And it doesn't matter because he's got three years and

0:45:30.860 --> 0:45:33.060
<v Speaker 3>$ 50 million per year to do whatever he's going to

0:45:33.100 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 3>do down there. Oregon at USC, one of my hammer

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:38.730
<v Speaker 3>games of the weekend. Oregon giving three to USC. USC's

0:45:38.750 --> 0:45:40.390
<v Speaker 3>4-0 with some light opponents.

0:45:40.770 --> 0:45:43.109
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, Oregon does not look great. I think the

0:45:43.250 --> 0:45:46.270
<v Speaker 2>talent differential shows here, though. I know USC's got some

0:45:46.330 --> 0:45:49.689
<v Speaker 2>great young players, but... Has USC won a big, tough

0:45:49.710 --> 0:45:51.210
<v Speaker 2>game like this since they got to the Big Ten, Paul?

0:45:51.230 --> 0:45:53.850
<v Speaker 3>They haven't had more than 10 wins in seven years.

0:45:54.030 --> 0:45:55.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go with you on this one. I'm

0:45:55.360 --> 0:45:57.890
<v Speaker 3>not taking USC. Oregon has to right the ship. They

0:45:57.910 --> 0:46:00.339
<v Speaker 3>should do fine. They've gotten their wake-up call a couple

0:46:00.380 --> 0:46:03.140
<v Speaker 3>weeks ago. USC, young talent, not experienced talent.

0:46:03.380 --> 0:46:06.940
<v Speaker 2>Is Dante Moore playing inconsistently and poorly just so he

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:08.419
<v Speaker 2>makes sure the Jets don't pick him, Paul?

0:46:08.440 --> 0:46:09.719
<v Speaker 3>You're going to have to ask him. He skipped the

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 3>draft last year because he didn't want to go to

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 3>a couple teams. Last one. Texas Longhorns at Tennessee. The

0:46:15.180 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Manning Bowl. This is fantastic. And this game's at noon.

0:46:18.360 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 3>You better wake up and be ready for this one, Perloff.

0:46:20.100 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to call you. Texas has given four.

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:25.839
<v Speaker 2>No, it's funny. People are jumping on Tennessee all over.

0:46:26.360 --> 0:46:28.690
<v Speaker 2>They worry that the spread is too small so the

0:46:28.730 --> 0:46:31.390
<v Speaker 2>Sharps know something about Texas. To me, I look at

0:46:31.410 --> 0:46:34.430
<v Speaker 2>the age of quarterbacks. Arch Maddox, 22. Faison Brandon, the

0:46:34.469 --> 0:46:36.650
<v Speaker 2>freshman at Tennessee, is 18 or 19.

0:46:36.650 --> 0:46:37.490
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, true freshman.

0:46:37.550 --> 0:46:40.590
<v Speaker 2>I always go with the older guy. So I know

0:46:40.690 --> 0:46:42.850
<v Speaker 2>Texas is vulnerable. We still don't really know if Texas

0:46:42.890 --> 0:46:45.450
<v Speaker 2>can play consistently. They had the comeback against Ohio State,

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<v Speaker 2>but they looked pretty bad the first three quarters. I

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<v Speaker 2>still like the Longhorns, although I've got to be honest,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot of movement out there towards Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here we go. Before we wrap up today, big week,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of football, college football. We're spent, but we're

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go. A nap today, watching football. I think

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<v Speaker 3>we got Indiana versus Northwestern tonight, but let's get to it.

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<v Speaker 3>The feel good, and this is one of the best

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<v Speaker 3>since Not So Fast has been on the air. Here

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<v Speaker 3>we go. This is Cubs. Ian Happ, number eight, fan favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>What's he throwing there, a baseball? No, a baseball with

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<v Speaker 3>$ 300 wrapped around it. He's buying beers, which I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know how many beers you could buy for $ 300, but

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<v Speaker 3>he's buying a lot of beers for the bleacher section.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's sort of a free agent who's probably on

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<v Speaker 2>his way out of town. Is that the story?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the move. In case we don't come here again,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm on another team for on the raise next year,

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<v Speaker 3>here's some stuff from Ian Hepton. Three bills? That's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to be honest, that is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>coolest baseball moves I've ever seen. How can you not

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<v Speaker 2>like this guy now?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and now there's pressure, though. Is that like setting precedent?

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the thing where if you catch a foul

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<v Speaker 3>ball and you're an adult, you have to hand it

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<v Speaker 3>to a kid. If you're leaving a team or you

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<v Speaker 3>might be a free agent, Pencil out some shackles to

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<v Speaker 3>the fans.

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<v Speaker 2>And football. I am a little worried about that. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to see too much sloppy football.

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<v Speaker 3>You know where we stand on weather. Play through.

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<v Speaker 2>You bought the ticket. Take the ride.

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<v Speaker 3>How many beers?

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<v Speaker 2>There's lightning in the area.

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<v Speaker 3>You're looking at $ 14 a beer. What is that? I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's under 20 beers. I'm a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>lightning rod. That's what they say. That's it for Not

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<v Speaker 3>So Fast. A lot coming up on Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>The Dan Patrick Show coming up on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's Herman Edwards.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge weekend in baseball. Way to win the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Play to win the game. Then come right over here

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<v Speaker 3>with us. Peacock, NBC Sports, NBCSN. Hang with Not So Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great week. Thanks to all the crew

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 2>Great week.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 5>See you on Monday.