Speaker 1: This is me, Craig Ferguson. I'm inviting you to come
Speaker 1: and see my brand new comedy hour. Well it's actually
Speaker 1: it's about an hour and a half and I don't
Speaker 1: have an opener because these guys cost money. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I'll be on stage for a while. Anyway,
Speaker 1: come and see me live on the Pants on Fire
Speaker 1: Tour in your region. Tickets are on sale now and
Speaker 1: we'll be adding more as the tour continues throughout twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five and beyond. For a full list of dates,
Speaker 1: go to the Craig Ferguson show dot com.
Speaker 2: See you on the road, My DearS.
Speaker 1: My name is Craig Ferguson. The name of this podcast
Speaker 1: is joy. I talk to interesting people about what brings
Speaker 1: them happiness. Hello, everybody. The type of stand up comedians
Speaker 1: that I like best.
Speaker 2: Of all, it's my personal taste, are.
Speaker 1: People who are authentically themselves. They have their own voice,
Speaker 1: the not necessary, the observational. They're more anecdotal, but they
Speaker 1: observe as the anecdote. And my guest today is definitely
Speaker 1: one of those. She's the delightful Fortune Finster.
Speaker 2: Enjoy everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you for noticing how cozy I am and snuggled today.
Speaker 2: It's a little it's a little chat.
Speaker 1: I see we're both wearing T shirt, shirt and top right,
Speaker 1: which I think that says we're in show business, but
Speaker 1: we're not.
Speaker 2: It's not nighttime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't and we don't take ourselves too seriously,
Speaker 3: but we're trying serious.
Speaker 1: But we're trying and sometimes we have to do a
Speaker 1: little bits of home improvement, that's right, which is what
Speaker 1: I was doing today actually before this, Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: actually I had a I'm going to tell you something
Speaker 1: because I'm hoping that you'll well, look, I'm just I
Speaker 1: need I need to tell someone that.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to tell you please. I was trying
Speaker 2: to get a chair into a room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the it's an old chair and an old house,
Speaker 1: and it's just it wouldn't work.
Speaker 2: So I did.
Speaker 1: I did it, But thing, what did you do? I
Speaker 1: saw the legs off the chair. No, and then I
Speaker 1: took it into the room and then I, well, it's
Speaker 1: an armchair, so you can't see. And then I magically
Speaker 1: fixed underneath with it.
Speaker 4: Is this the chair you're sitting on?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think anyone should sit on this chair.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: I was about to say, I don't. I don't trust
Speaker 3: the sturdiness of the chair.
Speaker 2: Now I think it will be okay, I think it'll
Speaker 2: be all right.
Speaker 1: I did the you know, a screw going that way
Speaker 1: and a screw going that way thing, so like like
Speaker 1: a bone, like a it's like a fracture, and then
Speaker 1: I built around it. But I'm still not going to
Speaker 1: let anyone over twenty in the chair. So it's basically case.
Speaker 1: It's chair is for a cat.
Speaker 4: For looks a chair.
Speaker 3: I honestly would have never thought of doing that, just
Speaker 3: so you know. I would have been like, the chair
Speaker 3: doesn't fit. I guess that's that. Ye.
Speaker 2: I can't. I can't do that. I can. I must
Speaker 2: bend the world to my will.
Speaker 4: God.
Speaker 1: I actually I don't think that's true. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's true. Now listen, tell me this. Are you still
Speaker 1: doing the Lovely Tom Papa's radio.
Speaker 3: Show as sure am with our mutual friend Joe Bolter
Speaker 3: five years now?
Speaker 2: Wow? Joe Joe Boulter? Who is Joe the producer of
Speaker 2: Tom's show?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Right, so Joe and Joe and I he writes my
Speaker 1: stand up with me Joe and my wife and I write.
Speaker 2: Whatever stand up I do, the three of us write.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: I know I've never I've never gone to Joe for
Speaker 3: stand up ideas, but I feel like I should.
Speaker 2: You should. I highly recommend it.
Speaker 1: He's also very good at every now and again, he's
Speaker 1: very good at organizing because I kind of got a
Speaker 1: little sky a brain when I stand up. He's very
Speaker 1: good at channeling stuff. And then every now and again
Speaker 1: he will land you a punchline. And there's one that
Speaker 1: I I have actually, yeah, it's it's just I've just
Speaker 1: recorded it. But yeah, every night I did that stuff
Speaker 1: that line, and it would got a huge laugh, and
Speaker 1: I would always think of Joe every night.
Speaker 4: Oh that's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like, oh man, every single night. It
Speaker 1: was about having a uti. Yeah, and I had a uti,
Speaker 1: and the only a leaf I could get was putting
Speaker 1: my penis in a glass of cold water. That was
Speaker 1: the only way that I could feel any kind of
Speaker 1: release was putting out.
Speaker 2: I just said that as you were drinking a glass
Speaker 2: of cold water. And I apologize.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that was coming. I know, I know,
Speaker 4: I put this up to my mouth.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, but but I was it's a
Speaker 1: true story. It was when I I, you know, I
Speaker 1: had this terrible uti and the only relief I could
Speaker 1: get was put my penis in the glass of.
Speaker 2: Cold water and I gotta laugh.
Speaker 1: And then Joe added the punch language I think was great,
Speaker 1: which was I could never go back to that Danny's
Speaker 1: which I think is is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Uh, anyway, tell me this, because you're one of the
Speaker 1: modern wave of young stand ups.
Speaker 2: You're the young stand up.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What what's so different about you guys?
Speaker 2: What's so different? I feel like I'm Jimmy Glick today.
Speaker 2: What's so different about you? Guys? You're kind of is
Speaker 2: your stuff anecdotal? You're kind of anecdotal? Is it? Is
Speaker 2: it personal or is it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think the difference is, and it's I appreciate the
Speaker 3: calling me young.
Speaker 4: Thank you all the creams I've been putting in my face.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wear a lot of creams too.
Speaker 4: I think the difference is a lot of our stand
Speaker 4: up is about us. Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know, the comics I watched ahead of me were
Speaker 3: just doing more observational comedy.
Speaker 4: What's happening in the world? You know, do you ever notice.
Speaker 3: When that kind of stuff you know, yeah, set up punchlines,
Speaker 3: stuff that was good for late night, late night spots
Speaker 3: and you know the Carson days and then all you
Speaker 3: guys on late night. It needed to be snappy and
Speaker 3: punchy and like get to it.
Speaker 1: It did, it did, and I think that that that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, because my stand up's always been no adotal
Speaker 1: as well. I've always done stuff like that, and whenever
Speaker 1: anyone was introduced me at a club, they would always
Speaker 1: say is there anything you don't want me to say?
Speaker 1: As they just don't mention growing up in Scotland other
Speaker 1: than that it's fine.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I was never.
Speaker 1: A huge fan of this style, which is have you
Speaker 1: ever noticed how things are like other things?
Speaker 2: And yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not my I could never do that myself.
Speaker 1: I mean some people are great at it, but I
Speaker 1: don't really connect to it. Even as an audience member.
Speaker 1: It doesn't really do it for me. Who were the
Speaker 1: comics that you were influenced by?
Speaker 2: Who were you? Who were you kind of drawing to
Speaker 2: when you were little?
Speaker 4: Weirdly enough, Carol Burnett, who's you know?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 2: I don't sweet at all? She's I'm a genius.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I guess there just weren't many people
Speaker 3: my age watching her. Yeah, but my my grandmother was
Speaker 3: a huge fan of hers. And my grandmother was pretty
Speaker 3: buttoned up, not someone who was like considered a silly
Speaker 3: person at all. And I would watch her watch the
Speaker 3: reruns of the Carol Burnette Show and just die laughing.
Speaker 3: And this woman, who you know is always very like
Speaker 3: together and lady like, seeing her just like cry laughing.
Speaker 3: I was like, Oh my gosh, what power does this
Speaker 3: this woman on television have? And I started watching the
Speaker 3: show with her, and she was so silly and so
Speaker 3: you know, not taking herself too seriously, and uh she.
Speaker 4: She covered it all.
Speaker 3: You know. She would have her monologue, which is essentially
Speaker 3: a stand up. She would do the sketches and then
Speaker 3: answer questions at the end, which was essentially improv And
Speaker 3: I didn't realize I was like really taking that in
Speaker 3: from my own comedy. So my background is sketch comedy,
Speaker 3: improv and stand up, just kind of hitting different parts
Speaker 3: of comedy in different ways.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I loved her. Saturday Night Live was a big
Speaker 4: influence on me.
Speaker 3: I started with the cast of like Adam Sandler, you know,
Speaker 3: Chris Farley, then went into like well Ferrell, Molly Shannon. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think I'm just drawn to those really big personalities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that it's interesting you you made in
Speaker 1: Kylber and I think Molly.
Speaker 2: Shannon as well is a fantastic performer.
Speaker 1: But the the innovators I think of, particularly sketch comedy,
Speaker 1: but you know, and stand up as well. I think
Speaker 1: of a lot of them. Are are women, Uh like
Speaker 1: Lucille Bowl created you know, the modern sitcom. I mean,
Speaker 1: just fly I did it. I mean people say the Honeymooners,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, no, no, it was it was Lucy,
Speaker 1: I think. And and then you know Joan Rivers, who
Speaker 1: was maybe might be one of my favorite.
Speaker 2: Stand ups ever. Did you ever see Joan perform?
Speaker 3: I never saw her live, and I was so sad
Speaker 3: that I never I never did, But I watched your
Speaker 3: documentary and was so impressed by oh, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: how yeah gathered jokes and that whole filing system of jokes,
Speaker 3: Like I can't even imagine that.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I certainly don't do that.
Speaker 2: No, I can't, I can't do that. Do you have
Speaker 2: stuff written down?
Speaker 3: Every I started writing down my whole set once I
Speaker 3: was about to film it because I realized I had
Speaker 3: not done that with any of my half hours, and
Speaker 3: so now I'll be like, I don't remember that one
Speaker 3: story or joke, and I don't have it written down anywhere,
Speaker 3: So I have to go back and listen to some
Speaker 3: of those if I ever want to tell one of
Speaker 3: those jokes. But now I write the whole set out
Speaker 3: before I film it.
Speaker 2: Does it help you memorize it as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, whenever I'm building an act, I write everything out first.
Speaker 3: I'm not a comic who can just go up on
Speaker 3: stage and with a premise and be like, let me
Speaker 3: see where we go with this.
Speaker 4: I have to know exactly where I'm going.
Speaker 1: That's a that's why you need joke. Joe will say, no,
Speaker 1: put it in this junk, this tongue. Yeah. How long
Speaker 1: do you go up from when you do stand up?
Speaker 1: How long do you usually.
Speaker 2: Go on for?
Speaker 3: Like when I'm doing my own show, probably around at
Speaker 3: the minimum an hour, and if I'm in the flow,
Speaker 3: an hour ten. But I'm not one of those comics
Speaker 3: that wants to be up there for two hours.
Speaker 2: No, I don't.
Speaker 3: Have I'm not that interesting and have enough to say
Speaker 3: to make that appealing It's funny.
Speaker 1: When I was younger, I would do a maximum an
Speaker 1: hour or fifteen, right, maybe that's the most. And now
Speaker 1: that I'm old and don't have anyone to talk to,
Speaker 1: I'll do like an hour forty five.
Speaker 3: Oh really, Well, you're probably you're just like probably a
Speaker 3: chattier person than me.
Speaker 2: It's possible. I think that. I it's part of how
Speaker 2: I do it. You know, how did you?
Speaker 1: I mean, when you were drawn into you like you
Speaker 1: saw Kyle Burnett, you saw your grandmother last laughing at
Speaker 1: Kyle Burnett?
Speaker 2: Is that when you like, I want to do whatever
Speaker 2: that is?
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I I was from a small town in North Carolina,
Speaker 3: like eight thousand people. So the idea of like being
Speaker 3: a comedian for a living did not like.
Speaker 4: That just did not happen. Yeah, I knew.
Speaker 3: I knew people did it, and I thought, well, good
Speaker 3: for them, how magical.
Speaker 2: But my mom was.
Speaker 3: Very much like, you're going to go to college, You're
Speaker 3: you're going to get a master's degree, like academics.
Speaker 4: Was very much like pushed like for me.
Speaker 3: But when I went to college, I discovered the arts
Speaker 3: a little bit, uh you know, uh theater, and I
Speaker 3: became friends with the people in the theater, and I
Speaker 3: thought they were so cool and different and unique, and
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to be in that world.
Speaker 3: So I did some plays in college, but I was
Speaker 3: pretty terrible at them because they were all dramas and
Speaker 3: I had no experience or training. I was I had
Speaker 3: terrible stage fright. So I thought that this is as
Speaker 3: cool as it is. I don't think it's for me.
Speaker 3: But I just didn't know comedy was so different, you know,
Speaker 3: that it was the comedy that I would gravitate towards.
Speaker 3: I moved to LA for just kind of a life experience,
Speaker 3: never been there before, had a job like doing PA work,
Speaker 3: and someone told me about the Groundlings and that they
Speaker 3: had this improv school and I knew all these cool
Speaker 3: sn L people had gone there, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: I love them. I'd love to learn to do what
Speaker 3: they did, still not thinking of it as a job,
Speaker 3: and I signed up for an inprov class as truly
Speaker 3: as a hobby, like let me do something fun. It's
Speaker 3: hard to meet people in LA. Maybe I can make
Speaker 3: some friends, sure, And my teachers just were really encouraging
Speaker 3: of like you're really good at this, like you should
Speaker 3: keep doing it, and it quickly became a passion. And
Speaker 3: then once it clicked, I just was like, there's nothing
Speaker 3: else I want to do.
Speaker 4: I called my mom. I'm like, I'm not going to
Speaker 4: grad school. This is what I'm doing. She's like, oh
Speaker 4: my god.
Speaker 2: What did you study it at college?
Speaker 4: Communication? Weirdly?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, it's a sort of communication. Yeah, did
Speaker 2: you did you get pushed back from your parents?
Speaker 1: They just like they didn't understand the world that you
Speaker 1: were wandering into.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it just didn't make any sense. My
Speaker 3: mom was just like, really, like, what are you doing
Speaker 3: out there? Like I think she thought I'd go for
Speaker 3: like a year or two and come back home and
Speaker 3: start grad school. But yeah, she just I think her
Speaker 3: worry was that I was just gonna be broke forever.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be able to make any more. And I
Speaker 3: was broke for eight years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was broke for a long time too.
Speaker 1: It's uh, I think it's kind of It's kind of
Speaker 1: interesting because I I I look at people who come
Speaker 1: from advantage backgrounds, you know, people who like, yes, I
Speaker 1: would like a career in comedy, and then they like
Speaker 1: it took me five years to write my thing, and yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, how the fuck do you pay the bills? How'd
Speaker 2: you eat? You know?
Speaker 1: But of course they come from money, and and I
Speaker 1: think it makes that I don't think it makes you
Speaker 1: a better worse comedian, but I kind of I'm jealous.
Speaker 4: That they gave you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I kind of I wish i'd had it,
Speaker 1: and I felt I still think I feel a little.
Speaker 2: I feel a little chippy about it, you know, I like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's so bad though. Yeah, no, look,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's it's ridiculous. It's a fault in me.
Speaker 1: You can't judge someone from their background.
Speaker 2: That's prejudice.
Speaker 1: But but I think I sometimes I dismissed people if
Speaker 1: they're from very privileged backgrounds, and I try and not
Speaker 1: to do that, but I.
Speaker 2: Kind of I'm a little more kind of oh.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're oh you had money or your bad news
Speaker 1: Steven Spielberg did he Okay?
Speaker 3: Then it changes your drive though, when you you don't
Speaker 3: know how you're gonna pay your bills. Yeah, you're like, well,
Speaker 3: I better I better figure this out. I better work
Speaker 3: three times harder than everybody else, because otherwise my my
Speaker 3: rent's not gonna get paid. So I definitely think it
Speaker 3: added to my work ethic.
Speaker 1: I had a friend, but I also made some I
Speaker 1: made some poor choices really for money. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: like I've made some movies where I thought, is that.
Speaker 4: How you learned to put your penis in water?
Speaker 2: No, that was.
Speaker 1: A medical emergency fortune. I didn't think it was gonna
Speaker 1: get momked for that.
Speaker 2: It was. That was a a medical emergency. Impromise paid
Speaker 2: for that.
Speaker 1: You know what by the time I you know, no,
Speaker 1: it was no. No one would want.
Speaker 4: To see No one would want to pay for that.
Speaker 1: It's a very niche kink.
Speaker 4: You know, dire times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess my only fans page.
Speaker 4: What would you do for money? What was do you
Speaker 4: remember like a you.
Speaker 2: Know, I I I didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean I did regular jobs, like you know, I
Speaker 1: want to hang bars and that kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: I mean I've taken jobs and show business where I
Speaker 1: was like, you know when I hear actors said, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't think the pot was right for me, Like,
Speaker 1: if you offered me a pop, I'm.
Speaker 2: Probably going to do it.
Speaker 4: You're gonna take it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably gonna take it. Tom Lennon says his
Speaker 2: answer is yes, I send the script. Yes, sendscript.
Speaker 4: That's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Hello, this is Greig Ferguson and I want to let
Speaker 1: you know I have a brand new stand up comedy
Speaker 1: special out now on YouTube. It's called I'm So Happy,
Speaker 1: and I would be so happy if you checked it out.
Speaker 1: To watch the special, just go to my YouTube channel
Speaker 1: at the Craig Ferguson Show and is this right there?
Speaker 2: Just click it and play it and it's free. I
Speaker 2: can't look.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to come around your house and show
Speaker 1: you how to do it. If you can't do it,
Speaker 1: then you can't have it. But if you can figure
Speaker 1: it out, it's yours. You didn't come up poor, though,
Speaker 1: you weren't like from a poor bike, right.
Speaker 2: I was from.
Speaker 3: It was an interesting situation. My family used to have
Speaker 3: money back in the day. My grandfather was a prominent contractor.
Speaker 3: He built schools and houses and was very successful. But
Speaker 3: he died unexpectedly at fifty and my grandmother took over
Speaker 3: everything and just didn't have the skill set at that
Speaker 3: time to make good decisions, and she tried to help
Speaker 3: people out of jams, and just a series of things happened.
Speaker 3: So by the time I came and my brothers. There
Speaker 3: was no money. So I had a mother who knew
Speaker 3: wealth and grew up with it, and that was broke.
Speaker 3: And she was a teacher and my dad was not.
Speaker 3: He would I had a different job all the time,
Speaker 3: very blue collar, so I did not grow up with money.
Speaker 4: But I had a house over my head. You know,
Speaker 4: I had food on the table.
Speaker 3: So it's subjective as to you know, yeah, what you
Speaker 3: would say, I had opportunities, but we often, you know,
Speaker 3: had the water being shut off because my mom didn't
Speaker 3: pay the bill, couldn't pay the bill.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, I had all of us.
Speaker 3: I remember when I was in when my brothers were
Speaker 3: in high school, they were in the summer. My mom
Speaker 3: didn't have much money because she was a teacher, so
Speaker 3: my my brothers both and my mom were working at
Speaker 3: a local uh kind of a version of the sizzler.
Speaker 3: And how it just was kind of trippy that like
Speaker 3: how did we get here? But you know, we did
Speaker 3: what we needed to do to make money. I was
Speaker 3: working at the recreation department, and I think, I think
Speaker 3: it I wouldn't be where I'm at in this career
Speaker 3: had I not learned early on how to do that,
Speaker 3: how to work for your own money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like real thing. I mean, did you ever
Speaker 1: try out for a Saturday Night Life? Did you ever
Speaker 1: go for that?
Speaker 4: Twice?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, back in two thousand and nine, twenty ten.
Speaker 4: I it's funny.
Speaker 3: I made a reel of characters and stuff. A friend
Speaker 3: of mine from my tiny town said, hey, I'm good
Speaker 3: friends with one of the SNL producers. I'm like, yeah right,
Speaker 3: and she's like, I Am like, she's she works for
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 4: I said. I told her like to watch you.
Speaker 3: You're funny, and I thought, you know here, I've moved
Speaker 3: three thousand miles away from my tiny town to try
Speaker 3: to make it, and hear a friend is helping me
Speaker 3: and I made this reel. She told me where to
Speaker 3: send it, and that friend watched it. And then I
Speaker 3: got a call one day. I didn't I just signed
Speaker 3: with the manager. Only been with her for a week.
Speaker 3: I got a call out of nowhere from this is
Speaker 3: Lindsay from Starting out Live.
Speaker 4: I watched your tape and I'm like, are you serious?
Speaker 4: This really?
Speaker 3: My friend really told you and she's like, yeah, we
Speaker 3: loved your tape. I was in the groundings at the
Speaker 3: time in the school, not even in the company yet
Speaker 3: and they she goes, we want to eat audition. I
Speaker 3: was like, whole I mean, this is like my whole world.
Speaker 3: Was like, are you kidding me? This is like the
Speaker 3: greatest moment of my life. She goes, but you have
Speaker 3: to be on a plane tonight and you're gonna audition
Speaker 3: in the morning in New York City, And I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god. But the but the not having time
Speaker 3: to get worried and nervous, I think was helpful. So
Speaker 3: that audition I think was my best one. And then
Speaker 3: I didn't get it because he often had people try
Speaker 3: out two or three times. They came and watched our
Speaker 3: group at the Groundlings six months later. Was yeah, I
Speaker 3: think this was the Seth Myers he I think Seth
Speaker 3: Myers might have been the head writer at the time,
Speaker 3: so he was in there.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then they brought me back a year later to
Speaker 3: audition again. But you do all your best stuff their
Speaker 3: first audition. Yeah, you give them everything because you're just like,
Speaker 3: I want this job so bad, so that when they
Speaker 3: brought me back, I was like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: gave him everything.
Speaker 4: What do I do?
Speaker 3: But you know what's crazy, Craig is I didn't even.
Speaker 3: It didn't even occur to me. And this seems so
Speaker 3: wild now, to do stand up. I didn't even audition
Speaker 3: with stand up, and.
Speaker 2: I was standing characters. And when you were there.
Speaker 4: Doing characters and impressions, I could have just.
Speaker 3: Done a stand up set and it didn't even I
Speaker 3: didn't even think of that, but I obviously didn't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where did you start doing stand up?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: You didn't do it? You characters for a while before
Speaker 2: you did stand up.
Speaker 4: I started growlings two thousand and five.
Speaker 3: I started stand up two thousand and seven, right, And
Speaker 3: I did well with characters and prov but stand up
Speaker 3: was where I really started to thrive.
Speaker 2: Where were you doing it? And like the mprov in
Speaker 2: LA and.
Speaker 4: The comedy stores where I started, I was, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I've never been there.
Speaker 4: You haven't ever.
Speaker 1: I've never even been in the building. You have to go,
Speaker 1: I know, I've just never been there.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's wild. Yeah, that's where I came up.
Speaker 3: I came up in the belly room up there, the
Speaker 3: small room. I took a stand up class and at
Speaker 3: the end of the class, we performed in the belly room.
Speaker 2: To stand up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it was a class that like this guy
Speaker 3: Adam Barnhardt taught it and he had to show every
Speaker 3: Sunday night at the store. And after my class, he said,
Speaker 3: you know, if you want to do a spot every
Speaker 3: Sunday night, if you do the music for my show,
Speaker 3: I'll give you ten minutes. And that's a brand new comic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: a minute every Sunday was huge. So I got really
Speaker 3: strong at stand up really quickly because I was. I
Speaker 3: was getting spots that no other brand new comic got.
Speaker 3: So by twenty ten, I got passed as a regular
Speaker 3: at the store.
Speaker 1: What does that mean that because I'm not familiar with
Speaker 1: was do you sit an exam or something?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: So Mitzi Shore, who owned who started the club and
Speaker 3: was very infamous for, you know, helping comics careers.
Speaker 4: You basically showcase like a three minute set.
Speaker 3: For her, and if you got passed, that meant that
Speaker 3: you could like perform in the main the main rooms
Speaker 3: there otherwise.
Speaker 2: So if you like it.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know if I could do
Speaker 1: a three minutes I don't even know. It takes me
Speaker 1: like twenty five minutes to settle done.
Speaker 4: The same year, it was tough for me. My stories
Speaker 4: are like eight minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and do you do it just like with her,
Speaker 1: it's just like you just do it to her, or.
Speaker 3: You do it as part of like a show. They
Speaker 3: would have bringer shows at that point, and they would
Speaker 3: tell you like, Okay, we're gonna tape your set tonight
Speaker 3: and we're gonna either Mitzi would be there in person,
Speaker 3: or she would watch it on the video. She watched
Speaker 3: mine on the video because she was getting older at
Speaker 3: that point.
Speaker 4: I was one of the last group of people she.
Speaker 2: Passed.
Speaker 4: She passed she has yeah, yeah, And.
Speaker 2: So who doesn't know then? How do they do it?
Speaker 4: I don't know, honestly.
Speaker 3: There must be someone there that's in charge of making
Speaker 3: those decisions.
Speaker 2: But I'm just I'm figuring out how I get passed to.
Speaker 4: Go and I think you have an end.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never been there. I kind of
Speaker 2: feel like, you got to follow the rules, you gotta
Speaker 2: do the thing.
Speaker 3: They would put you up in two seconds so you
Speaker 3: would not have a problem. It just meant a lot
Speaker 3: to me to get passed because that was I had
Speaker 3: not been on television and yet so I felt like
Speaker 3: I earned it, like you know, the coming up the
Speaker 3: chain and getting better and and those rooms at the
Speaker 3: store are meant to be tougher. She considered those rooms
Speaker 3: workout rooms. If you can kill at the comedy Store,
Speaker 3: you can kill anywhere.
Speaker 4: And they purposely make it hard for you.
Speaker 3: Like when I got past my spots were at like
Speaker 3: one in the morning for like four drunk guys. It's
Speaker 3: not it was not easy, but it did make me
Speaker 3: such a stronger comic. And twenty ten I did Last
Speaker 3: Comic Standing and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about that, because that's the that's a
Speaker 1: competitive TV show, right. That was like, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think that Taylor Williamson did that as well, didn't he?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we were in the same season.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, because Taylor's a sweet guy. He's lovely,
Speaker 1: And I always thought that stand up is so it's
Speaker 1: so kind of weirdly difficult, and particularly when you're starting,
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. And then to have it to be
Speaker 1: put into a form of a competition.
Speaker 2: As well, it's like, oh my god, it's a hat
Speaker 2: on a hat that's.
Speaker 4: Hard, and it's objective, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Did you Is there a large group of people in
Speaker 2: the will you dian hood? Does it work?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Started with auditions at the improv. You know, there'd be
Speaker 3: a line out the door where you'd wait in line
Speaker 3: forever just to get seen. But you know, they have
Speaker 3: their they have the line where anyone can try out,
Speaker 3: but I would They also kind of had a back
Speaker 3: door where they asked certain comics to auditions, so you
Speaker 3: would have like a time to show up, right, And
Speaker 3: I knew I got a time slot, so I auditioned.
Speaker 2: And they have that at the DMV in Hollywood as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you make an appointment, yeah you know, but at
Speaker 1: the DMV there's a celebrity door.
Speaker 4: I didn't know that. I didn't know. I don't know
Speaker 4: about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll hook you up all right.
Speaker 4: Corey Store. You'll get me at the d V.
Speaker 2: Yeah you get I'll get you in the d m V.
Speaker 2: You get me up in the belly River. Yeah. So
Speaker 2: you do the edition.
Speaker 1: Who's judging you at the addition that just like producers
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 3: No, they had three judges and the producer's way into
Speaker 3: it was Greg Giraldo, Andy Kimler and Natashaazio. Okay and
Speaker 3: uh and I had a good audition and I think
Speaker 3: I made it to the semifinals. And I remember I
Speaker 3: got when I got eliminated, I.
Speaker 4: Was pretty green.
Speaker 3: I was only three years in the stand up, so
Speaker 3: if I had kept going, I would have run out
Speaker 3: of material. I just didn't have the you know, the
Speaker 3: wealth of material.
Speaker 4: These other guys had.
Speaker 3: So I I went exactly enough to give people a
Speaker 3: taste of like who I am and make them curious
Speaker 3: about me.
Speaker 4: So it was hugely helpful for.
Speaker 3: Me and Greg Giraldo, I remember sent me an email
Speaker 3: after I got eliminated, just really encouraging me and telling
Speaker 3: me you got something here, you got to keep it
Speaker 3: going and that. And he he was such a comics comic, yeah,
Speaker 3: and so well respected that that meant a lot.
Speaker 4: So yeah, that's that started everything.
Speaker 3: I started headlining shows again, only three years in the
Speaker 3: stand up.
Speaker 4: I really had.
Speaker 3: To learn by sucking really bad at a lot of
Speaker 3: these gigs.
Speaker 2: Did you tour the country? Did you do like the
Speaker 2: hahah and you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was telling all the a lot of the
Speaker 3: naka stuff. Like college shows. I was doing a lot
Speaker 3: of that.
Speaker 1: I have I have done a college show since since
Speaker 1: I was the age of people who are in college.
Speaker 4: They're hard, They're hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I think I did a couple
Speaker 1: maybe maybe ten years ago.
Speaker 3: I don't think I would do them now. I think
Speaker 3: those days are passed.
Speaker 1: But do you think that is that because I mean
Speaker 1: I remember Jerry Seinfeld saying that, you know, he would
Speaker 1: still them doing colleges because people are so touchy about everything.
Speaker 2: Is that is that part of.
Speaker 4: It for me?
Speaker 3: No, because I'm just telling stories about my life and
Speaker 3: you know, just not really digging into the current events.
Speaker 4: For me, I just don't think they would relate to my.
Speaker 3: Life, you know, And I can't really relate to theirs,
Speaker 3: Like I remember when I started doing college shows, being like, god,
Speaker 3: you guys are so young, Like I thought I was
Speaker 3: so old in college, but there's they're babies. Yeah, And
Speaker 3: I just don't think, you know, and I tell these
Speaker 3: long stories.
Speaker 4: They just want that punch your like quick.
Speaker 3: I think their attention spans are so small.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's lucky.
Speaker 3: And that led to Chelsea lately, and that's kind of
Speaker 3: where I started at all.
Speaker 1: I think it what happens as well as that you
Speaker 1: because you were a panel, you were on the panel.
Speaker 4: With Chelsea, it was yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: She's it's funny. I always think Chelsea's very funny.
Speaker 1: She's so generous and so kind and so nice, and
Speaker 1: I always try and bust on because she's really you know,
Speaker 1: she could be really you know, cutting, and I think
Speaker 1: that she likes to think she's really cutting, but she
Speaker 1: can't help but be nice.
Speaker 2: I watch it all the time.
Speaker 4: I mean, it changed my life. I was broke.
Speaker 3: I mean I really did not know how I was
Speaker 3: going to pay my bills. I was had like twenty
Speaker 3: dollars left in my bank account that I mean, that's
Speaker 3: not an exaggeration. And but I submitted a writing packet
Speaker 3: and by a miracle, got that job. And you know,
Speaker 3: I went from having nothing making like fifty bucks here
Speaker 3: and there on these gigs and and then you know,
Speaker 3: five hundred was like a big night to like getting
Speaker 3: this nice salary insurance and then like on Halloween, they
Speaker 3: were just like her assistant would just like drop a
Speaker 3: thousand bucks on all the writer's desk and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: what is this and she's like, oh, Chelsea signed a bonus.
Speaker 3: I had got a bonus or something, so this is
Speaker 3: for all the writers. I'm just like what, And you know,
Speaker 3: a thousand bucks made such a difference in my life. Sure,
Speaker 3: she was very generous and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a lot of time for her. I
Speaker 2: really do.
Speaker 1: I think she's a she's she's true to herself, and
Speaker 1: she's very funny.
Speaker 4: And she was putting people on TV.
Speaker 3: You know, I think you're similar where you see the
Speaker 3: uniqueness and people and you're like that person's not like
Speaker 3: necessarily like has a TV look or like who you
Speaker 3: would see in these positions, but they're funny. And she
Speaker 3: would give people opportunities that the industry was not giving
Speaker 3: people at the time, and no one knew what to
Speaker 3: do with me, and I was considered weird and different,
Speaker 3: and she was like, that's exactly what I like.
Speaker 4: Once she's said yes, everyone started saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's it's an odd thing. I think
Speaker 1: that it's a little healthier now, you know, because of this,
Speaker 1: it's more democratic the kind of businesses that people can
Speaker 1: put their stuff up there. But I do think that
Speaker 1: as much as you know, it's an odd thing because
Speaker 1: like I've been my sixties now and I'm lad you're
Speaker 1: playing to young crowds.
Speaker 2: Is like i'd be why would I do that?
Speaker 1: But they turn up it's kind of weird, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think what it is.
Speaker 2: It's not really age related.
Speaker 1: I think it's about you find your audience and your
Speaker 1: audience finds you. Like my my people are you know,
Speaker 1: there's not enough of my type of people that fell
Speaker 1: a fucking stadium that never will be you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: It's just there's not enough, you know.
Speaker 1: And uh and that's so that's at first, like you
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of look for that like massive popularity.
Speaker 1: But if I can keep my audience like that's who
Speaker 1: I do working for, you.
Speaker 4: Know, that's sweet spot. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: I think so do you find that you have that
Speaker 1: now for you, that you know you have your own audience,
Speaker 1: that that you're comfortable, you know what's going to work
Speaker 1: and what's not going to work and how they'll be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've definitely cultivated my audience. I started,
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, headlining in twenty ten, and
Speaker 3: I just had this plan of like every year and
Speaker 3: a half, I'm gonna go to this city, and the
Speaker 3: hope is that every time I go, I've built the
Speaker 3: audience a bit more, a bit more, a bit more,
Speaker 3: and I would stay after every show for you know,
Speaker 3: four or five shows in that weekend and I would
Speaker 3: meet every single person and with this like thought of
Speaker 3: like having a grassroots sort of like I'm gonna connect
Speaker 3: with every person that comes to these shows in hopes
Speaker 3: that they'll continue to follow me as I go up
Speaker 3: this or hopefully go up this ladder.
Speaker 4: And they did, so you.
Speaker 2: Know, they do and they stay with you.
Speaker 1: It's the funniest thing is like I get people I
Speaker 1: do meet and Greeks now after a shore and people
Speaker 1: come up and like they've seen me twenty.
Speaker 2: Five years ago, and they or they bring.
Speaker 1: Up stuff that that's amazing get you, They get you
Speaker 1: stuff to sign, when I'm like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: can hardly remember doing that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It's I was very resistant to the meet and greet
Speaker 1: thing for a while because I thought it kind of
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was going to be helpful. I
Speaker 1: thought it'd be like the comment section or something. But
Speaker 1: it's not giving you notes about your show. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's not like that the show, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: would be better.
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, I don't want that. But
Speaker 2: it's not like that at all. It's it's much more social, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's kind of you kind of get to
Speaker 1: hear people's stories a little bit, you know, and it.
Speaker 2: Because I think it's it's easy to.
Speaker 1: Forget sometimes when you do the job that we do
Speaker 1: that how kind of people who kind of help sometimes
Speaker 1: to have a laugh. And then people kind of respond
Speaker 1: to it and it and they want to tell you
Speaker 1: about it. And I used to kind of go, oh no, no,
Speaker 1: but now I don't. I'm like, oh, thank you tell
Speaker 1: me And yeah, for sure, is there anyone who does
Speaker 1: that for you? Is there a comedian or somebody that
Speaker 1: does it for you? It just like never fails to
Speaker 1: make you laugh.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, there's so many that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well my hands I do this podcast got handsome
Speaker 3: And Tig Nataro is one of the one of the
Speaker 3: great tigs, always making me crack up, just because her
Speaker 3: brain is so different, yeah and unique, so I'm often
Speaker 3: laughing at her insane antics.
Speaker 1: I had to run late night once as a guest,
Speaker 1: and I could see she was kind of like the
Speaker 1: fuck is this?
Speaker 4: That's tikes kind of look always though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like she was like what the fuck
Speaker 2: is this?
Speaker 1: Although I saw that low on late night when people
Speaker 1: were like what the fuck is that? I thought of
Speaker 1: myself alone, But that's kind of that's kind of going
Speaker 1: away now late night, isn't it. It's kind of like,
Speaker 1: I know, I just saw the late Yeah mile Spot,
Speaker 1: your spot is gone.
Speaker 2: It's gone. Yeah.
Speaker 3: They even are not doing after midnight and they're just
Speaker 3: gonna leave it be.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I read that yesterday and was like, oh, wow, like.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised really, I mean, the the attrition that's
Speaker 1: been uh you know then just the numbers going that is,
Speaker 1: no one's watching it.
Speaker 2: I mean that that yeah. No, I mean it's just
Speaker 2: that people are watching other things.
Speaker 4: I don't think yeah, or they're watching that online.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean look, I remember, like I quit Late
Speaker 2: Night in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen. I didn't realize that it was yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long time ago. I started it in
Speaker 2: two thousand and five. I quit this.
Speaker 1: I started January two thousand and five and I quit
Speaker 1: Dezamber twenty fourteen, so it was ten years almost to
Speaker 1: the day.
Speaker 2: And it was even then, you know.
Speaker 1: Stuff like uh, Jimmy Fallon was doing hashtag games online
Speaker 1: and people were starting to say things like, oh, can
Speaker 1: you make stuff for Twitter and stuff?
Speaker 2: I was like, why, I don't fucking next to work.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I do this show and that's what I do, right,
Speaker 1: And then in the years after that, it became I
Speaker 1: think it's how people watch late night Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone that. I mean, maybe they do,
Speaker 2: you know, watch his own show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 2: They just watched clips. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Again, it's that attention span.
Speaker 3: They're like, give it to me and increments.
Speaker 2: Do you have that? Do you are you good at?
Speaker 4: Kind of like the social media?
Speaker 2: Do you read?
Speaker 1: Do you watch a movie from start to finish orderly?
Speaker 1: Watching the movie without your form in your hands?
Speaker 4: Oh god, I'm I'm guilty of it myself.
Speaker 3: I have bad add like oh yeah, the radio show
Speaker 3: to do with Tom Like, I'm they're always having to
Speaker 3: real mea I'm like, I started looking outside the window
Speaker 3: and or I'll like check my email. It's gotten bad.
Speaker 3: I do think our phones are just rotting our brains.
Speaker 4: So I think a.
Speaker 2: Little, I think a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's hard because in the other hand,
Speaker 1: it's such a fabulous tool, an amazing invention, and at
Speaker 1: the other you know, but nothing's free, you know, and
Speaker 1: there's always the universe.
Speaker 2: Is there's no closing effect?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's so convenient, but man, trying to get
Speaker 3: especially writing new you know, I'm I'm on a new
Speaker 3: tour now. My my special came out, and as you know,
Speaker 3: as a comic, every time you put out a special,
Speaker 3: to start, yeah, start fresh, and sitting down to write
Speaker 3: the material is one of my toughest parts of this
Speaker 3: job for me, just concentrating and thinking about what I
Speaker 3: want to say.
Speaker 1: Can I give you a tip about this because this
Speaker 1: is something I found out about this, like right at
Speaker 1: the beginning when I was writing stand up, when I
Speaker 1: was doing a ton of writing, I was actually I
Speaker 1: was a cast member of The Drew Carrey Show. But
Speaker 1: I used to write all the time and I was
Speaker 1: maybe doing one to three scenes a week if it
Speaker 1: was a heavy week, and the rest of the time
Speaker 1: I was just like you know, sitting in my trailer.
Speaker 1: And so I wrote in the trailer all the time.
Speaker 1: And I had a bit of blog not blog, but
Speaker 1: I was having trouble kind of settling down at the writing.
Speaker 2: And then I went on.
Speaker 1: Facebook Marketplace and I bought a fucking trailer and I
Speaker 1: put it in my garden.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Bought an airstream and I go into the trailer, and
Speaker 1: it's just like back at the beginning. The smells the same,
Speaker 1: the table is the same, the things the same, the trailers,
Speaker 1: the trailer.
Speaker 2: I go in and certainly I'm like, oh, and I
Speaker 2: can work.
Speaker 1: So I think what you have to do is whatever was,
Speaker 1: whatever you used to do back in the day, recreate
Speaker 1: that environment, and that's what that's how you work.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, never even thought about that.
Speaker 2: I just kind of stumbled into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also because I was on Facebook Marketplace, so which is like,
Speaker 1: which is porn for me.
Speaker 4: At this point? Getting good deals?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: And so I go an airstream, a classic airstream trailer
Speaker 1: and I and.
Speaker 2: I just go into it and I market and it works.
Speaker 2: It works. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: I've written like I had a special command in January.
Speaker 1: I've got another one. I'm going to show another one
Speaker 1: in October. I could write two a year at this point.
Speaker 1: It's just like, you need an airstream, it's what you need.
Speaker 4: I'm better go on Facebook Marketplace staff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you do you still have a place in Carolina?
Speaker 4: I used to, but I got rid of it.
Speaker 2: Because that's a great place for a Now I.
Speaker 3: Know that's what I think I hope to was gonna
Speaker 3: be and then I just never got home. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: I could see I would like something like that, but
Speaker 3: where I could drive to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what That's what I amm to me. I
Speaker 1: moved back to Scotland for a long time. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: every time I wanted to work, I had to get Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to work over there. And so I now
Speaker 1: live in New York City and I have a close
Speaker 1: outside of New York.
Speaker 2: I can drive between the two of them.
Speaker 1: Oh that's because you know, seven hour plane ride every
Speaker 1: time you want to do a stand up Spot does
Speaker 1: a lot, Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like, oh, they have stand up there, not.
Speaker 4: As not quite, not quite the same as New York.
Speaker 1: It's not it's just not.
Speaker 2: Also, I love New York. So you still live in LA.
Speaker 4: I live in La have been out here about twenty
Speaker 4: two years now.
Speaker 2: I loved there twenty three you did, Yeah I did.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I still love it. I think I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 4: it feels like the place for me.
Speaker 3: Who knows if that will ever change, but yeah, the
Speaker 3: West Coast vibe suits men. I like to visit my
Speaker 3: family in the South. But you know, then I got
Speaker 3: to get back to the West Coast where the where
Speaker 3: the gays can live freely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, I think the idea is that the gays can
Speaker 1: live really everywhere.
Speaker 2: That's the hope.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm in New York City, you know, And I
Speaker 1: have to tell you I think it's okay for gays
Speaker 1: in New York as well, just so as you know, Okay, good,
Speaker 1: I think. Look, I can't say for sure. It's not
Speaker 1: my life experience, but it seems like it's going okay,
Speaker 1: all right, good.
Speaker 4: I don't need to hide in your airstream.
Speaker 2: You know, I hid my airstream. I can't.
Speaker 1: It's not really so much about the airstream. It's about
Speaker 1: creating the environment that was right at the beginning. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I find myself the old rag.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this sound to you, but I
Speaker 1: start to I start to miss the energy and the
Speaker 1: fun of starting out and for and for a while
Speaker 1: there I got a little down.
Speaker 2: About it, like so fucking review mirror.
Speaker 1: But then if you create an environment where it is
Speaker 1: just like the way you started.
Speaker 2: And you know, go and do a club, Go and
Speaker 2: do a club.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's uh, you know, I don't have
Speaker 1: to say up like go and do you know actually Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Is one of my there's a comedy comedy zone in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: It's a great club. Is that is a great gull.
Speaker 2: I love doing that club. There's a bunch of them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I think doing those like clubs
Speaker 1: because I was doing I was not doing clubs for
Speaker 1: a long time and then going into a time for
Speaker 1: a weekend and just doing a club is fucking great.
Speaker 3: I've been doing those building this act. So I start
Speaker 3: my new my tour in a couple of weeks, but
Speaker 3: I've been doing the clubs. You're right, it is so
Speaker 3: nice to just get back to like your roots.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you watch you know, you
Speaker 1: see musicians where they like they do well, and then
Speaker 1: they have the orchestra and the Vugan laser beams and
Speaker 1: the club dancers and all that, and and then do
Speaker 1: you see them strip it down and play with two
Speaker 1: people or just an acoustic guitar. I think that's the
Speaker 1: equivalent back to what you do. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: you do. And also the and I think only stand
Speaker 1: ups understand this feeling of freedom when you have an
Speaker 1: act that hasn't been recorded you know, you go to
Speaker 1: any town, anytown, like I know where I can go
Speaker 1: anywhere I need to and I'll have enough to eat
Speaker 1: for sure. Is that autonomy?
Speaker 2: You know? It's the Also I think I don't know
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: I mean because you you have a background and scale comedy,
Speaker 1: which means like working with other people.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I work that well with other people.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, you don't have to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe Bolter me, Joe. I like Tom.
Speaker 1: I like Tom very much. I think you could work
Speaker 1: with Tom. He's one of the great's.
Speaker 2: What's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think about Tom as a stand up he's as
Speaker 1: nice a guy doing stand up as he is as
Speaker 1: a guy.
Speaker 4: I know, he's a good guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, he's really I I almost can smell
Speaker 1: the bread cooking while he's doing stand up. He's a
Speaker 1: very authentically again, authentically who he is, and I like that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm drawn to.
Speaker 1: And and comedians, you know, authenticity and yeah and funny.
Speaker 1: Well you're that and well done, you're off the hook
Speaker 1: and get out of here.
Speaker 4: Well, thanks for having me. This was great to see
Speaker 4: talk to you.
Speaker 2: It's lovely to talk to you. To give jew and
Speaker 2: Tom my best on your.
Speaker 4: I'm headed to serious exim right now. I will tell
Speaker 4: Joe I just talked to you.
Speaker 2: Tell them Boath, I miss them very much.
Speaker 4: I will.
Speaker 1: I look forward to my next invite to be on the.
Speaker 2: Yes, what do they call it? The tom?
Speaker 4: What a joke with pop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I was going to say, you get billing
Speaker 2: in this then I do?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Good, Thanks Craig, so fun.
Speaker 2: Talking with you. Thanks fortune taking easy. It's lovely to
Speaker 2: talk to you.
Speaker 4: Lovely to talk to you too.
Speaker 3: By