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Speaker 2: Pulled in by Wilson for a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown, Tyler Murray.

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Speaker 2: That defender is in multiple pieces. All that was nasty

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Speaker 2: right there?

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Speaker 3: Rights slamming the ground by Foodafacer like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 3: came flying into the backfield.

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Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 2: All right. This week in the valley, there are up

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Speaker 2: two two sorts of people and only two. There are

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Speaker 2: those who run to the Phoenix open, and there are

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Speaker 2: those who run from the Phoenix Open. Danny Surrect Aaron Rman.

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Speaker 2: You need to identify yourselves accordingly, because I used to

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Speaker 2: be the former now I'm most definitely the latter. Poly

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Speaker 2: podcast Danny, what says you.

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Speaker 4: This year, I am the ladder. I've gone before and

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of fun. I didn't go last year,

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Speaker 4: mostly because I was at the Super Bowl, and I

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Speaker 4: don't really know that I want to tackle it the

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Speaker 4: first year after all those changes, when it was such

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Speaker 4: a mess last year. So maybe next year will be

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Speaker 4: my year.

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Speaker 5: I've always been a from always.

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Speaker 2: I didn't see you any of those videos from last year.

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Speaker 2: I shirt off sliding down the muddy hills in the

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Speaker 6: I've been there a few times to do work. But

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Speaker 6: if I can avoid going out there for all of

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Speaker 6: the above reasons, I do. I mean it's I don't

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Speaker 6: have any problem with the event. It's a lovely event.

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Speaker 6: I just don't want to mess with it.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing how it is a bucket list event

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Speaker 2: I'm going to come out. I'm going to wait seventeen

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Speaker 6: I'm still better, to be honest, Paul of the choice

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Speaker 6: of my bosses. Way way way back in the day,

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Speaker 6: when for Super Bowl thirty, the Steelers and the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: Valley Tribune newspaper, and because the super Bowl was here,

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Speaker 6: it was basically al hands on deck for the super

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Speaker 6: Phoenix Open.

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Speaker 5: Now Phil Mickelson won the event. Yeah, so it wasn't

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Speaker 6: But I wanted to cover the super Bowl and I

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Speaker 2: You know what, Darren, I was there for that one.

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Speaker 2: That one. I forget who he beat in the playoff hole,

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Speaker 2: but they were because he was such a local fan

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Speaker 2: favorite Phil Mickelson that all the issue frat boys were

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Speaker 2: it was very UNPGA worthy put it that way.

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Speaker 5: Oh, there's no question. But isn't that kind of what

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Speaker 2: A couple of years ago for the Super Bowl, my

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Speaker 2: have no idea what you just don't run someone out

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand people out there anyway, speaking

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you got that off your chest there, all right?

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know is the is the vibe

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Speaker 1: Danny.

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Speaker 2: Look, I've refused to imbibe any of the hooplah any

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Speaker 2: I've been pretty good at resisting it so far. How

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Speaker 2: If you will?

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Speaker 4: Well, what have you missed on Tuesday? Media?

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Speaker 2: Media, the media?

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Speaker 4: Dayay night? That's about it at all?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's all all know.

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Speaker 5: I mean we've we've had a week plus of build up.

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Speaker 4: Sure, sure you say that now and then what happens

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe I come to regret it. I don't know,

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Speaker 4: I know I absorb some of the stuff. I'm not

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Speaker 4: like going crazy and reading ten articles a day or

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Speaker 4: it shows up on my Twitter feed, I'll watch it.

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Speaker 2: Anything stand out about some of these prop bets that

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Speaker 2: we've seen out there. I do find those intriguing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: at least the prop bets are new and innovative, and

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Speaker 2: with some of the various prop bets that we have seen.

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Speaker 2: Anything stand out to you guys, because I've seen different

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Speaker 2: listenings about different prop bets. You know the usuals. You

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Speaker 2: can go for the coin toss obviously right the length

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Speaker 2: in the national anthem, the over under is right at

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Speaker 2: two minutes, so at two minutes singing the national anthem.

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Speaker 2: If I can read this handwriting John Batiste, Okay.

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Speaker 5: Didn't he play center for the issue.

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Speaker 4: Second Gatorade color, that's a good one.

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Speaker 2: That is a good one. By the way, I can't bet,

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Speaker 2: but if I was betting, I would go with orange,

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Speaker 2: which is has the fifth longest odds. Really orange, Why

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Speaker 2: we put orange? They put purple, yellow, green, lime, red,

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Speaker 2: and pink ahead of orange. That's preposterous based on twenty

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Speaker 2: as someone who does walk over to the Gatoray table

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Speaker 4: Both sidelines have the same color. We think these are

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Speaker 4: questions I have.

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Speaker 2: Well, Travis Kelsey proposed to Taylor's swift postgame. I'm guessing no,

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Speaker 2: you want the longest odds? Will an offensive lineman score

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Speaker 2: a touchdown?

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Speaker 5: Joan and Williams says, I would never.

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Speaker 2: Forty to one on that. Wow, how about that?

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Speaker 4: Put a dollar down. That is not legitimate betting advice.

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Speaker 4: Please don't take that. That was a joke.

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Speaker 2: Halftime, Kendrick Lamar, what do you think the over?

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Speaker 4: That is something I'm interested in? Okay, now I'm intrigued.

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Speaker 2: All right, So Danny, here you go over under ten

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Speaker 4: Ten and a half halftime? They make it longer. It's

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Speaker 4: probably what fortune.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so are we counting? Okay? But but here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: At Super Bowl concerts, oftentimes these artists do like a medley.

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Speaker 4: Well that's like a typical concert.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well, okay.

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Speaker 4: We got different concerts. It's not uncommon where you don't

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Speaker 6: Right, But like, I feel like almost all the songs

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Speaker 4: I don't think it'll be ten and a half. I

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Speaker 4: think that will be under. I am very excited though,

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Speaker 4: on what he's going to open with, because he's got

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Speaker 4: some great options. That's what I'm excited for. I think

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Speaker 4: it's going to be a spectacular halftime performance.

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Speaker 2: Will he wear a hoodie? That's another problem.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, I'm gonna say no. I think he's going to

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Speaker 4: be a little more stylish than that.

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Speaker 5: They're indoors. Does that mean anything?

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Speaker 2: Will Taylor Swift join.

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Speaker 4: Kendrick No, people think that because they have a song

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Speaker 6: No, you're just saying this. You're not saying bet this correct,

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Speaker 6: because these are all.

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Speaker 4: For all intentsive purposes. Yes, I am not telling you

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Speaker 5: Why do you think Taylor Swift won't do it?

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Speaker 4: Because she's there as a guest and I the amount

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Speaker 4: known that the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: for what tended like that. No, that's not gonna change.

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Speaker 4: And she's there as a guest. She's not going to

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Speaker 2: See that would be a tell, right if that's a

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Speaker 2: prop that will Taylor Swift perform or not? In mid

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Speaker 6: What if she's in the bathroom, Paul, Even Taylor Swift

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Speaker 6: uses the bathroom?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Travis kelcey, Ah, we did that one well? Player

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Speaker 2: or coach cried during the national.

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Speaker 4: Because did a Nick Sirianni cry during the national anthem?

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Speaker 4: The Super Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Was Chris Jones? Isn't it Chris Jones always shed?

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Speaker 4: I thought Nick Sirianni also cry.

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Speaker 5: I feel like Nick Sirianni did cry.

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Speaker 4: Oh for sure someone's gonna cry. Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: I probably cry?

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Speaker 2: And then this has to be the longest emotional person, Danny.

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Speaker 2: Although I don't have the odds here, will there be

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Speaker 2: a power outage is an actual prop bet.

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Speaker 6: Interesting time there was a power outage which which by

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Speaker 6: the way, which ray Lewis still doesn't I don't have it,

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Speaker 6: but there is a fantastic ap photo which I may

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Speaker 6: show to the cameras later when I have a chance

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Speaker 6: to look that I took when the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 6: and Ravens were at the Super Bowl, and it's a

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Speaker 6: it's with the power outage, and it's this cool shot

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Speaker 6: kind of the photographer crouches down and they're all waiting

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Speaker 6: to play. And it's the back of I think it

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Speaker 6: was Colin Kaepernick or one of the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 6: but who's right next to him in the back and

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Speaker 6: I can tell from just the back marked.

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Speaker 4: It's Fox with the super Bowl this year, Right, it

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Speaker 4: is a prop bet should be uh if they're gonna

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Speaker 4: have Cafe Umn Bennet's on pregame desk on their show,

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Speaker 4: because that would be a guess in New Orleans?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, yeah, it's because Tom Brady, right is uh

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Speaker 2: it's going.

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Speaker 4: To be on How many times are they going to

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Speaker 4: mention his Super Bowl rings?

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Speaker 2: Sure? Sure? And while we're at it, before we get

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Speaker 2: into the actual football side of this, they rated I

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Speaker 2: guess the best Super Bowl watch party party foods. Uh?

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Speaker 2: You know they rate everything the top five super Bowl snacks.

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Speaker 2: This is for the state of Arizona. By the way,

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Speaker 2: chips and dip, one sandwiches too, fries, three burgers for

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Speaker 2: chili five huh. And then the five dips salsa, hummus,

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Speaker 2: bean dip, ranch number five guacamole.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's let's.

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Speaker 6: Make this clear that this is based on Google searches,

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Speaker 6: so I could understand why somebody would search hummus more than.

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Speaker 4: How reliable is that that wings aren't on there? Like that?

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Speaker 2: What would you google search ranch? Right, if you're going

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Speaker 2: we need you to go down swinging defensive line coach Winston.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, give it a shot. Broadcast professional Danny Sirek,

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Speaker 4: Just called out, Darren.

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Speaker 2: Nerves of steel. Give it a shot. No idea, there's

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Speaker 5: It's no longer a defensive end. Just to make sure

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Speaker 2: Now he's now the coach of the defensive line one

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Speaker 6: I'm not particularly super prized. Obviously, it's nice that those

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Speaker 2: Look when you win, and the Cardinals did win, right,

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Speaker 2: And don't forget it's always about the business of ball

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Speaker 5: No, he will play. You think so absolutely he will.

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Speaker 6: Did a really good job by costing himself ten fifteen

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Speaker 6: And Miles Garrett ain't twenty five, he's twenty nine, still

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Speaker 4: I don't see the Browns not trading him. When a

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Speaker 2: He said he doesn't want to go through another rebuild.

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Speaker 4: Wake me up. When the Browns are not in a

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Speaker 2: Picking number two overall and they earned it, put it

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Speaker 4: Look, a player of that caliber, don't I don't care

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Speaker 4: You have to entertain that at some point. Yes, this

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Speaker 4: a little bit of rotation. But if you're going to

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Speaker 4: bring somebody in that's going to be as much of

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Speaker 4: a game wrecker, it might cost you a little bit

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Speaker 4: of money. You're gonna want them out on the field.

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Speaker 4: It's different. Obviously it was different front office, coaching staff, players,

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Speaker 4: all those things. But think about Chandler Jones with Marcus Golden.

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Speaker 4: When you have Chandler Jones, when you had Jones out

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Speaker 4: there and the attention that he demanded, that allowed somebody

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Speaker 4: like Golden to still be disruptive and tones of Jones,

448
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Speaker 4: of his caliber was disruptive no matter the attention he got.

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Speaker 4: And when you took away Jones and Marcus Golden was

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Speaker 4: your leading outside linebacker, you didn't get enough production there.

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Speaker 4: So if you're able to get a player that is

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Speaker 4: just top caliber and position, you make it work.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if if you can get to a point

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Speaker 2: where Nick Rowlis can rush for and get home, that,

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Speaker 2: to me is is the biggest area that you can

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Speaker 2: potentially improve from last season to next season. Instead of

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Speaker 2: Nick Rowlis and JG having to scheme it up, dial

458
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Speaker 2: it up, instead of us talking coming up with monikers

459
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Speaker 2: like hey, it's eleven card pickup because there's a bunch

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Speaker 2: of guys walking around the defense in front, because you

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Speaker 2: have to get exotic with all these different schemes that

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Speaker 2: teams haven't seen. And you know, instead of forcing an

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Speaker 2: offense to answer who, when and where as in you know,

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Speaker 2: where's that pass rush coming from and who's coming if

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Speaker 2: you can force an offense to answer how, how they're

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Speaker 2: going to stop it, how you're going to stop Back

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Speaker 2: in the day, Chandler Jones when he's getting seventeen sacks,

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Speaker 2: nineteen sacks, you know what can we do to stop this, dude,

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Speaker 2: and they start every game plan trying to put in

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Speaker 2: a scheme to mitigate your star pass rusher. You know

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Speaker 2: that that would be a huge box to check in

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Speaker 2: the offseason. And I've said it before and I'll say

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Speaker 2: it again. If you can go from seventeen different players

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Speaker 2: with one sack and somehow find that one player with

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Speaker 2: seventeen sacks, think how that trickles down through all three

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Speaker 2: levels of your defense.

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Speaker 4: I expect that to be a position that is addressed

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Speaker 4: in free agency. That is a room that has a

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Speaker 4: handful of pending free agents to begin with. So even

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Speaker 4: if that's just resigning some of your own players, or

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Speaker 4: if that's looking elsewhere. The Cardinals have the cap space.

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Speaker 4: They have five draft picks coming up in the twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty five draft, starting with sixteenth overall, so they've got

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Speaker 4: plenty of money in capital if they want to get

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Speaker 4: a deal done again, not just necessarily for Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 4: but for a player out there.

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Speaker 2: By the way, is Darren takes off the sport code

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Speaker 2: over there? All right? It's Darren was looking dealer.

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Speaker 5: With other stuff. I gotta be honest right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were kind of thrown. You know, Darren was

491
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Speaker 2: looking a little too formal for this edition of Cardinals Underground.

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Speaker 2: You know now maybe now, maybe that he's rolling up

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Speaker 2: the sleeves a little bit. You know what Darren needs,

494
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Speaker 2: He needs the latest mock draft to come out. NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com Lance zerline one point zero has Tyler Booker

496
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Speaker 2: going to the Cardinals number sixteen overall. That would join

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Speaker 2: Let's see here, I know he's guard. That's a guard, correct,

498
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Speaker 2: mel kiper at Tyler Booker, the guard out of Bama

499
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Speaker 2: and the quick thumbnail right up. While fans might not

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Speaker 2: get too excited about taking a guard in round one,

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Speaker 2: says Ho, Booker is a big, tough and highly regarded

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Speaker 2: guy in the Alabama program for his top flight leadership

503
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Speaker 2: and accountability. I've also heard the word nasty used with

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Speaker 2: Tyler Booker. He's six five three twenty five.

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Speaker 5: That's a large human being.

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Speaker 2: And for any fan, let me just say this, who

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Speaker 2: isn't on board with taking an interior offensive lineman. Take

508
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Speaker 2: a look at the Cardinals division and look at big

509
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Speaker 2: cat Leonard Williams and what ninety nine did two games

510
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Speaker 2: against the Cardinals, two pivotal, costly games weeks twelve and fourteen,

511
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Speaker 2: and it was the biggest game wrecker out there. Wasn't

512
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Speaker 2: Geno Smith, wasn't Kenneth Walker. It was Leonard Williams. So

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Speaker 2: if you can get that guy, and then considering what

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Speaker 2: the Rams are building on their defensive front, we've seen

515
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Speaker 2: that from Byron Young and Kobe Turney and Braden Fist

516
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Speaker 2: and Jared Burse. Building the offensive line not a.

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Speaker 4: Bad idea, not even just looking at the opponents. Look

518
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Speaker 4: at what the Cardinals offense wants to do. They want

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Speaker 4: to run the ball, So you need to have a

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Speaker 4: stout offensive line that's going to be able to make

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Speaker 4: sure you can pull that off. I never think it's

522
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Speaker 4: a bad idea to look into the depth or take

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Speaker 4: a look at the trenches on either side of the

524
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Speaker 4: ball when you're talking about draft or free agency. And

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Speaker 4: that's something that general manager Monti Austin, for it, has

526
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Speaker 4: made clear in his time here is how he prioritizes

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Speaker 4: offensive and defensive linemen.

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Speaker 6: It's funny you bring that up because there was somebody

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Speaker 6: I interacted with on Twitter. It was after the Justin

530
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Speaker 6: Frye news broke, and somebody made the point, Hey, Josh Simmons,

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Speaker 6: who's Ohio State's tackle who's a potential first round pick,

532
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Speaker 6: said oh, maybe they take Josh Simmons with the sixteenth pick,

533
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Speaker 6: and I didn't dismiss it.

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Speaker 5: Very possible.

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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be some And somebody got upset

536
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Speaker 6: and basically said they have to get a defensive lineman

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Speaker 6: with that first pick, and I'm like, I I'm kind

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Speaker 6: of with you, Like, if the right lineman is there,

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Speaker 6: if Tyler Booker is the best lineman on either side

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Speaker 6: of the ball and you need that guy, like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: you go get him.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: There's some depth at defensive line that you can get

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Speaker 6: probably a little bit later. There's some depth on offensive

545
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Speaker 6: line too. But like I'm gonna keep saying this probably

546
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Speaker 6: every podcast until the draft, I do think it's gonna

547
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Speaker 6: be on one side of the line or the other

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Speaker 6: for that first round pick. But I to think that

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Speaker 6: it wouldn't be an offensive lineman because maybe there's more

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Speaker 6: of a perceived need defensive line.

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Speaker 5: I just don't see it.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget right guard Will Hernandez pending free agent. Left

553
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Speaker 4: guard Evan Brown is also a pending free agent, so

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Speaker 4: it's it's not like it's not a need to begin.

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Speaker 2: With and I remind myself Justin Jones and Blall Nichols. Yeah,

556
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Speaker 2: there's more depth than than we remember along that defensive front.

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Speaker 2: Yes there are free agents.

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Speaker 5: Whole season of Darius Robinson, right, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, And yes, Roy Lopez is up and LJ. Collier

560
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: is up and Kyrie's tong got I get it. But

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Speaker 2: you know that cupboard isn't bear and you have guys, proven,

562
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Speaker 2: established guys that you spend significant money on last off

563
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Speaker 2: season and free agency who are returning from injury. So

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked to your point. Just bolstering your point,

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Speaker 2: I would not be shocked at all if indeed they

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Speaker 2: go for O line versus D line in round one. Now,

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Speaker 2: if there's a viable pass rusher there, I would say

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Speaker 2: pass rusher eclipses O line, but not by much. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you're taking the best dude on the board at

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Speaker 2: that point, the guy who you think impacts the game

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Speaker 2: the most, I would say. Now, I do take exception

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Speaker 2: with some of these mock drafts, and really it's been

573
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Speaker 2: more chattered than necessarily official. Typical mock drafts you get

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Speaker 2: from some of the bigger names that have the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: going cornerback at sixteen. At sixteen, I don't quite see that.

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Speaker 4: That seems like the least likely option in my opinion.

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Speaker 6: The only way I see that is if all of

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Speaker 6: a sudden, there's somebody like Michigan's Will Johnson, who's considered

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Speaker 6: the best cornerback in the draft. He's somehow he's considered

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Speaker 6: a top ten pick. If he somehow ends up at sixteen,

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Speaker 6: I could see.

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Speaker 4: But in general, no otherwise, that was such an area

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Speaker 4: of emphasis last offseason, in the entire last season for

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Speaker 4: this front office and coaching staff, and bringing in a

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Speaker 4: veteran and Shawn Murphy Bunting continue to develop rookies and

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Speaker 4: young players like Star Thomas and Max Meltin and Garrett Williams.

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Speaker 4: That does not seem like a position group. Again, unless

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Speaker 4: it is a specific player that is too good to

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Speaker 4: pass up, that vision group as a whole does not

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Speaker 4: seem likely at sixteen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not dismissing the value of a corner

592
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Speaker 2: like look at the Eagles and look at the difference

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Speaker 2: in their defense from a year ago. You could easily

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Speaker 2: point immediately to Quinyan Mitchell and Cooper de Jean, the

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Speaker 2: two starting rook corners and.

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Speaker 6: They already have a front seven that was and oh,

597
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Speaker 6: by the way, Zach Bond who came out of nowhere

598
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Speaker 6: to be one of the best middle linebackers in the league,

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Speaker 6: like need little luck.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Ron Wolfley is not going to like this.

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Speaker 2: But you know one storyline that's been getting a lot

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Speaker 2: of play at Super Bowl fifty nine is the fact

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Speaker 2: that Nick Sirianni runs an ultra easy training camp, like

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Speaker 2: they do virtually nothing in terms of what in terms

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Speaker 2: of physicality and hitting hads and contact. They run very

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Speaker 2: short training camp practices, very light on contact. And I

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Speaker 2: bring that up because there's been a lot of play

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Speaker 2: and you know, the NFL is a copycat league. A

609
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Speaker 2: the Eagles are mostly healthy, very healthy in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: and a team like the Lions, who run very physical

611
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Speaker 2: training camps, very physical practices, who are loaded with talent,

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Speaker 2: but went into that playoff game with what eighteen different

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Speaker 2: players on injured reserve. So I would say, and once

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Speaker 2: again wolf doesn't want to hear this, but I'd say,

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Speaker 2: we're going to continue to trend towards much easier training

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Speaker 2: camps in preseasons. In the month of August will get

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Speaker 2: less and less demanding and physically taxing for the players

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Speaker 2: for us.

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Speaker 4: Is that not something you could see as a.

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Speaker 2: Cycle, Darren, It's not always about you.

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Speaker 4: You could see as a cycle of teams if they

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Speaker 4: want to copy what the Eagles have done and you

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Speaker 4: have a lighter training camp and then the next couple

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Speaker 4: of years. Think of Cliff Kingsbury's last year when Vance

625
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Speaker 4: Joseph was defensive coordinator and Isaiah Simmons after that first

626
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Speaker 4: game against the Chiefs, remember when he came and said

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Speaker 4: that the defense had n't played together because they had

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Speaker 4: a light training camp, And that was part of, like

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Speaker 4: I understand that of your trying to find reason and

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Speaker 4: if there is correlation, that to me is something that

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Speaker 4: is always going to be a cycle of teams ebbing

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Speaker 4: and flowing of a lighter training camp to try and

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Speaker 4: stay healthy. And then you're fighting the fact that you're

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Speaker 4: starting the season off and you don't have a lot

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Speaker 4: of continuity or maybe even camaraderie, communication, whatever that might be.

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Speaker 4: And I just see that as something that's going to

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Speaker 4: ebb and flow well.

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Speaker 6: And then I'm also I'm also in the camp of

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Speaker 6: is their correlation or there is obviously some correlation to

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Speaker 6: a certain extent, but is there causation like did they

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Speaker 6: have a light training camp and they ended up healthy

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Speaker 6: or is it because they had a light training camp?

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Speaker 6: Or in the other case, were the Cardinals did they

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Speaker 6: struggle because was the causation because they hadn't practiced together

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Speaker 6: enough or was it because Isaiah Simmons just wasn't that

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Speaker 6: good of a player.

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Speaker 4: That's fair. I would be more interested to see a

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Speaker 4: player like Marvin Harrison Junior, who didn't participate in the

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Speaker 4: Combine last year to try and preserve his body, who

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Speaker 4: made it through his first rookie season. I'd be more

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Speaker 4: curious to see if there's any sort of correlation there

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Speaker 4: of players getting ready for the draft and whether or

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Speaker 4: not they are having a really heavy offseason leading up

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Speaker 4: to that.

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Speaker 2: Well, and if you look at the Eagles season, they

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Speaker 2: started two and two and then they had the bye

657
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Speaker 2: after Week four and they took off, which reinforces that

658
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: moniker that we coined a couple of years ago. September

659
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: is the new August, Darren, You've never really been on

660
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: board with that. September is the new August. We've used

661
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 2: that because that means that means that you use September

662
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 2: to really kind of hash things out and get into

663
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: regular season form, whereas you used to be the month

664
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Speaker 2: of August in the preseason. But you know, no, Moss,

665
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: that's that's not the case anymore. These teams use September,

666
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: especially in a seventeen game season, which, by the way,

667
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: does seem like it'll be tracking for eighteen in the

668
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: not too distant future. Roger Goodell talking to the media

669
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 2: his annual Super Bowl press conference and saying he has

670
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: had informal discussions with the NFLPA about adding another regular

671
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: season game.

672
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 4: That could be the same quote you read me from

673
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: five years ago, Paul.

674
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Speaker 2: Danny, it's it's it's it's not five maybe two maybe

675
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: two years ago.

676
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 4: Set on an eighteen game, and every team's gonna end

677
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: up having an international game. The question, though, is does

678
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: that guarantee two bye weeks for every team during the season.

679
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay, no, all right, we got this two man game

680
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: going right now because in international games. Roger Goodell ROJ

681
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: I like to call him RAJ. I've interviewed him twice

682
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Speaker 2: the last eighteen months.

683
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Speaker 4: Quote.

684
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: We do think that sixteen games per season is something

685
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 2: that is realistic in terms of international games as a league,

686
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: sixteen per season, which would speak to every team would

687
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: have at least would have one international game, and that

688
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: would seem to result in a second by that's the

689
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: popular thinking. Now, what's surprising to me. The only little

690
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: nugget in here that I found in interesting was most

691
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: people seem to think it would be effective twenty twenty six.

692
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: But the speculation is because the NFL has its Super

693
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: Bowl schedules set through twenty six, twenty twenty seven would

694
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: be the earliest you would go to eighteen games.

695
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 6: It still cracks me up. I know they want to

696
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 6: go to eighteen games, don't get me wrong.

697
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Speaker 2: And by the way, Darren, they cited that concussions were

698
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: down seventeen percent in twenty twenty four. So because of

699
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: you know, the latest and equipment and training and an

700
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 2: offseason and preseason that you know, players are able to

701
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: handle this now they're equipped for this, and concussions are

702
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:32,879
Speaker 2: going down.

703
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 6: I'm not even going to get into the argument over

704
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 6: like people being healthy enough. What I don't understand is

705
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: if you want every team to have an international game,

706
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 6: it just seems so obvious that you have a seventeen

707
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 6: game season, then everybody has eight home games, eight away games,

708
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 6: and one international game, and if you add an eighteen game,

709
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 6: then you're just back to this whole cluster fudge that

710
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 6: you already got.

711
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 2: But see, here's the difference is you're considering pre season

712
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: football football. Even Roger Goodell admits preseason football ain't NFL

713
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: caliber football. He literally said this week, people want more football.

714
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: That's why we would like to go to eighteen regular

715
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: season games.

716
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: And what two preseason games?

717
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: Correct, still twenty total that he wants eighteen? See more football,

718
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: more better, so to speak, is what the Commission is saying.

719
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: By the way, they said they may not get to

720
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: eight international games this year. That was the benchmark, or

721
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: at least the goal, eight international games twenty twenty five,

722
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: and there's already five in the books. Three in London, Madrid,

723
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: Berlin dot dot TikTok Arizona Cardinals maybe just maybe now

724
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 2: recent reports have linked the Steelers to playing in Ireland

725
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: and a long term partnership in Brazil, so those might

726
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 2: be the other two international games this year, and reports

727
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: have leaked about the Rams and Eagles playing in twenty

728
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: six in Austria. Jeff which Jeffrey Lurie did not deny.

729
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: In fact, he said they would love to be the

730
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: team to represent Australia and they have who's the right tackle? Jordan?

731
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: How do you pronounce his name's He's the former Australian

732
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: rugby league player.

733
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 4: That's a long flight. Although if you got to make

734
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 4: that flight, there's no better way than a team charter.

735
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, h And if you're on that

736
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 2: team charter, then you know you might want to entertain

737
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: yourself with yet another edition of what JG calls and

738
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: what we have adapted into here on Cardinals Underground every

739
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: week winning behavior? Can you display winning behavior?

740
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 4: You have to consistently display winning behavior.

741
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: That's winning behavior.

742
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: You've got to define what winning behavior is and hold

743
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 4: people to that standard.

744
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: Yes, you know what, you know what Wolf would be

745
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 2: good at. In addition to football NFL football, covering kicks

746
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 2: in a special team's assassin, Wolf would be really good

747
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: at American ice football, especially since he's a native of Buffalo.

748
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 2: American ice football. Are you guys familiar with this at all?

749
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: Had you ever heard of this prior to Cardinals Underground,

750
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 2: Because if you haven't, apparently it's all the rage in

751
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: Germany and uh.

752
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 6: We just saw a quick video clip. That's all I

753
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 6: can say. But it looks crazy, insane.

754
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 2: We we have had an actual telecast to prove it.

755
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 7: Yes, the North Coast not South Coast Smoothies.

756
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 2: Wee football on ice. We were in Loaf, the skate river.

757
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 4: Skate Clyd stick As I got to Stiffen says I

758
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: should that's all Spaun.

759
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: That is a whole gun. That is taunting. All bets

760
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: are off. I mean, just throw the whole book out

761
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: when you still can't talk. When it's the South Coast

762
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 2: Smoothies against the North Coast Naughties.

763
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 4: If you were to just play that broadcast clip, I

764
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 4: would say winning behavior because that popped me up. But

765
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: after watching the video, that is not winning behavior to

766
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: me because they are they're playing on a hockey rink

767
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: and they're wearing a helmet, and it looks like all the

768
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 4: football rules are the exact same of the passing and

769
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: the quote unquote running.

770
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 5: It's more like you're, yeah, make it clear, they're not

771
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: on skates.

772
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 4: Trying to get into the quote end out to kill yourself.

773
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: Painful to the point, not even just to play, but

774
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: to watch everybody constantly falling when they when someone went

775
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 4: for an extra point and I was concerned for him

776
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 4: as he is going through the motion of the kick

777
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 4: and then falling down. That looks so painful. That is

778
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: not winning behavior.

779
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 6: Not winning behavior when they when they have the Super

780
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 6: Bowl of Ice football and they have the commissioner press

781
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 6: conference and I'm just imagining that question about health and safety.

782
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 5: How is Roger Goodell of Germany going to answer that.

783
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: I know that we have some loyal German bird gang

784
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: over there, so maybe if they're listening, if they have

785
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: ever participated, maybe they could enlighten us through your mail

786
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 4: bags smoothie or naughty or something. Sure.

787
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: As a former hockey beat writer Darren Urban, it reminded

788
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: me of the between period entertainment. Hey, let's get a

789
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: bunch of fans out here, get them in full pads

790
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 2: and a helmet, and then shuffle around the ice try

791
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: not to fall as you try and run a football

792
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: thirty yards without collapsing. I mean, it's the best part.

793
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 6: Is like if you couldn't even do that in between

794
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 6: periods of an NHL game now because the lawsuits would

795
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 6: be way too probable.

796
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: Once upon a time longer than I care to admit

797
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: it was one of those stooges at a local TV

798
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: sports department who was matched up against the local sports

799
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 2: radio station in between periods at a Coyites game, and

800
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 2: they put us in the sumo suits. Oh yeah, big,

801
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 2: heavily padded, air filled, and they I said, get out there.

802
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: And I got absolutely co rushed by Mike Golic, former

803
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: NFL defensive lineman six ' five at this point, pushing

804
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 2: way over three hundred bills and I.

805
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 5: Got to start in Phoenix radio before Mike and Mike.

806
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: I got absolutely ear holed by Mike Golick and sent

807
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: all the way across the ice into the end boards,

808
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: and I picked the smallest and I wish, but I

809
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 2: can still hear the crowd going nuts as I'm careening

810
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: towards the board, screaming no boom. And I crashed into

811
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 2: the endboards.

812
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 5: Hurt though, because you had this big ball of air.

813
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you appreciate it. Yeah, and so, and.

814
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 5: That was not what do you ever apologize?

815
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: Not winning behavior? Are you kidding me?

816
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: He was?

817
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 2: He was out there to do damage. Golick. He's like wolf.

818
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: He just started having this look in his eye.

819
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 5: That's true.

820
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 4: You're not going to bring up the Luka don Chich

821
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: trade as winning behavior or not right, We're not going

822
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: to talk about that. We don't have to talk about it.

823
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: If you're a MAVs fan and you got word or

824
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,959
Speaker 2: shall I say, got wind of the Luca trade, maybe

825
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 2: you would be like going to see this flower that

826
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: what is it again? This flower? The corpse flower, the

827
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: corpse flower, And once again we have audio to prove

828
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: that there is meaning in the name.

829
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 3: We're standing here in the aquatic house at Brooklyn Botanic Garden,

830
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: and we're here because our morpho, Pallas Fugus, has decided

831
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 3: to bloom for the first time.

832
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: It smells like feet, cheese, and rotten meat. It really

833
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 4: smells like a rotten corpse. M I've also heard it

834
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 4: smells like cheese.

835
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: That's kind of what I was expecting.

836
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: But to me, it does smell like, you know, a

837
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: dead body.

838
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, A lot of knowledge about who what

839
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 6: a dead body smells like.

840
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 5: I couldn't be able to tell you that.

841
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, thankfully, I couldn't really tell you from a first

842
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 2: person perspective. But you know, you're trying to figure out

843
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 2: what to do on your weekend. Hey, let's go smell

844
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: the corpse flower? Is that I mean? Is that on

845
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: the to do list? Is that I mean a show

846
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: of hands? Anybody actually making time to put that into

847
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: their day?

848
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: No behavior, No, you're we're supposed to say whether or

849
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 4: not we think it is.

850
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 2: Uh, yes, Luka, datcis going to the Lakers, winning behavior

851
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 2: or not. That's right. Dallas's own and Mavericks fan Danny

852
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 2: sur I don't want.

853
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 4: To hear anybody saying I'm not allowed to care because

854
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: I have him very vocal when it comes to baseball

855
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 4: or basketball. That might not be quote unquote die Hard

856
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 4: the way that I grew up watching other sports, but

857
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: I am still a fan. I still worked on many

858
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,280
Speaker 4: Mavericks and Rangers games, and you know, over the years,

859
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: I have equally you know, boughten into the valley and

860
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 4: cheered for the Suns and cheered for the Diamondbacks. But

861
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 4: I still watch the MAVs. I still follow the MAVs.

862
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: And that was the furthest thing from winning behavior that

863
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: you could do. You have a generational talent who had

864
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 4: every intention of signing an extension with you, who was

865
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 4: bringing this organization success, not single handedly, but pretty close

866
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: and You're not even gonna leverage him to the league.

867
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 4: You're just gonna send him in a trade the Lakers

868
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: when the rest of the world is asleep, and get

869
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: not nearly enough for what you could have gotten him

870
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: completely like, I know so many MAVs fans who are

871
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 4: canceling tickets, who have unfollowed him on social media, who

872
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 4: are looking for other teams to follow. I have not

873
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 4: been alive no offense as long as you guys. But

874
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 4: from my understanding, there are at least speaking from a

875
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: Dallas perspective, And I could be wrong. I say that

876
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 4: as if maybe you guys know something else I don't.

877
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 4: From my perspective, at least for the city of Dallas,

878
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 4: there have been very few times when an entire city

879
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: is as upset with a move like this since firing

880
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 4: Tom Landry. Really a few. No, there have been times

881
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: the Cowboys make.

882
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,399
Speaker 5: Make big move, everybody bitches and moans. Am I not wrong?

883
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: Am I supposed to be offended?

884
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 5: No, You're not supposed to be offended. I'm asking a question.

885
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 4: I feel like not on this scidere. There are times

886
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: where yes, but it's not on this I get no.

887
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 6: But but see to me what makes the difference is

888
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 6: this is a national and international like, what the heck

889
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 6: just happened?

890
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 4: I'm saying from Dallas, Okay, I'm saying from the city

891
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 4: of Dallas as a perspective, well everybody.

892
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is is I feel like, now again,

893
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 6: it feels like there's other stuff to this. I don't

894
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 6: even know what they're thinking. There's lots of conspiracy theories

895
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 6: already out there in terms of new Mavericks ownership because

896
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 6: Mark Cuban has now been has acknowledged that he had

897
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 6: nothing to do with this move and he has nothing

898
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: to do with the Mavericks. They don't they don't ask

899
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 6: him his opinions anymore. And because obviously he would never

900
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: have treated Luka Doncic.

901
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 2: But if they didn't want to pay seventy million a year,

902
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: who's someone's health and conditioning they don't trust?

903
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 4: Is that real?

904
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 5: See? That's the question. Is that real?

905
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 4: Is that? Is that something you're just saying? That's other

906
00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 4: things behind?

907
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: If he's really close to two seventy and that video

908
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 2: you know of Michael Finley taking the beer out of

909
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: his hand after celebrating the playoff win, I mean, you know,

910
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 2: if there's how many different analysts, Charles Barkley and others

911
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: have speculated, Well, the MAVs must know something. The rest

912
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: of question do not.

913
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 6: If Charles Barkley was playing today, would you give him

914
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 6: a big contract in his prime? Because it was the

915
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 6: exact same kind of thing.

916
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 2: Sure, And you know what, I brought this up because

917
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: I was on with Wolf and I brought this up.

918
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: If you remember when Charles Barkley got traded from the

919
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Suns to the Rockets, what Jerry Clangelo said, he was

920
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: sick and tired of watching that brand of ball, which

921
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: was isoball, which was Charles pounding the ball and eight

922
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: other guys standing around. Guess what. Luca is not the

923
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: same player he was five years ago. When Luca came

924
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: into the league, he was Magic Johnson. He was creative,

925
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: he was a playmaker. He had unbelievable court vision. Now

926
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 2: he winds in gripes and grouses and all he does

927
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: is try and pining for the next call. And it's

928
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 2: kind of miserable to watch at times, Not to mention

929
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: he plays zero defense.

930
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 4: Sure it is twofold, though, of what kind of leverage

931
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: did were the MAVs even trying to get, and it's

932
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 4: you're getting Anthony Davis. And that's not a bad player,

933
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 4: but it's an older player who you could argue as

934
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 4: either past or on the back end of his prime,

935
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 4: who is considered brittle maybe right, he's not reliable from

936
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: a health standpoint, and that's the person you're now going

937
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: to try and build around. There's just it was a

938
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: sad day, and look it's not It's like not even

939
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 4: just MAVs fans. It's like city of Dallas. I'm seeing

940
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 4: all over my Twitter of like the amount of banners,

941
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 4: not even just around American Airline Center, outside inside the

942
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 4: airports and all over of all of these posters having

943
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 4: to come down and get changed because the entire city

944
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,760
Speaker 4: was rallied around this player.

945
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 6: Well, if you sort to kind of wheel it back

946
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 6: to where our lane is a little bit like is

947
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: there a guy that could get traded in the NFL

948
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:51,919
Speaker 6: right now?

949
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 5: That I mean?

950
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 6: Is it Patrick Mahomes? Is he the only guy that

951
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 6: would get traded right now? I mean I don't even

952
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 6: want to say Lamar Jackson, because a couple of years

953
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 6: ago we all I thought he might get traded.

954
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 4: What about like a Josh Allen and you get Matthew Stafford.

955
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 5: Well again, like I'm at this point, I'm just talking.

956
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 6: But from the standpoint of whether a guy would even

957
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 6: get traded, I think that's a fair comparison.

958
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 5: I've heard stuff like that where it's like you have

959
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 5: a little bit of a younger player to and we

960
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 5: can get it. We could.

961
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 6: You can always talk about the details of the deal itself,

962
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 6: just the mere fact Luke getting traded, though, to me

963
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 6: in itself say no idea and it's just it's sad.

964
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 5: Well I'm not. I mean, it might be sad for

965
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 5: Dallas fans. I mean I don't I tend it's not.

966
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 4: Sad for you. Doesn't mean it can't be sad for me.

967
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 7: No, I'm saying it could be sad. Where the hell

968
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 7: is your problem here, Like, I'm not saying you can't

969
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: be sad. My point is is I don't feel sad.

970
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 7: I don't think I mean, Luca can be sad. But

971
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 7: like that's kind of the gig, like you can get traded.

972
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 7: The reason the reason he just didn't think he was

973
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 7: going to get traded. It was never that he couldn't

974
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 7: get traded. He just didn't think he was going to

975
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 7: get traded.

976
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: The video of the fans carrying the coffin onto the

977
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 2: MAVs home arena and putting it right in front of

978
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: the entrance while they're.

979
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: Playing Putting at the Dirk Statue.

980
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: And the end they're playing Whiz Khalifa See you Again,

981
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 2: which is the tribute from Fast and Furious to Paul

982
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 2: Walker right who died in the car crash.

983
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 4: And you know, you know that's actually an excellent segue

984
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 4: Paul Right, Yeah, Fast and Furio.

985
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: I just stepped into it here.

986
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 4: So one of our new segments.

987
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: Really because I was gonna I was going to segue

988
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: into the power Pole of Aneptitude, and I was going

989
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: to sure, go ahead, I was going to include the

990
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,479
Speaker 2: MAVs GM on the in the new and updated Power

991
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 2: Pole of Aneptitude. You guys ready for this? Yes, okay?

992
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: So number five MAVs GM, Nico Harrison, number four. We

993
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 2: actually have a new entrant. By the way, Darren, he

994
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: might want to appreciate this. Andre Guidala's number was retired

995
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: by the Warriors. He was a one time All Star

996
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: for their Denver Nuggets. Wilt Chamberlain, Rick Barry, Chris Mallen,

997
00:48:55,920 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: and Andre Iguidala so that's number four. Tyrek Stevenson still

998
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 2: holding strong at number three for his Hail Mary epic fail.

999
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: Is he ever going to get out of there?

1000
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: The Endless Shrimp Red Lobster executive when they fil for

1001
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: do we already bounce him or not? Do we bounce him?

1002
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 4: Have a new CEO?

1003
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: I guess I'm partial to that guy. I have him

1004
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 2: right now at number two. And then ray Gun still

1005
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: number one, still waiting for someone to knock ray Gun

1006
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: was taken off of the power poltitude.

1007
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 4: No, you need a new number two.

1008
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,479
Speaker 2: You know, you know what we had Netflix in there

1009
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: for all the buffering and then you know, eight rounds

1010
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: of Jack of the Squad my Tyson's naked, rumpled, wrinkled

1011
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 2: rear h that was all that was in there as

1012
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 2: well detail and uh and honestly I had Mark mcclun

1013
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: in here just for Sun's carriage issues since he's the

1014
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 2: sports director at Channel five. That's another story. Uh, Danny

1015
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: will segue to you WHOA.

1016
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a tough segue. Uh, it's not quite wise, guys.

1017
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 4: So it's not gonna be trivia, but it is a

1018
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: new segment called Getting Cultured with Danny. It is not

1019
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: just directed at Paul darn you are included.

1020
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Okay, you don't know about that.

1021
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1022
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: Does it just go getting cultured and automatically people think

1023
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 2: of all it must be at the expense of Paul

1024
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: am I the default uncultured philistine around here is that

1025
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: what I am?

1026
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 4: Yes, But the reality is I. I think it's fair

1027
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 4: to say that I am on social media and consume

1028
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 4: more at pop culture than both of you combined. So

1029
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 4: Dren is still to this. So this is not a

1030
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 4: QUIZI is simply to catch you both up on what

1031
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 4: you might have missed in pop culture.

1032
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 6: You mentioned whoever Kendrick Lamar is going to be performing with,

1033
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 6: and I've never heard of that person.

1034
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: I have two teenagers at home. I think I'm being

1035
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: unfairly profiled. But go ahead, just through osmosis I doings.

1036
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 4: So this, this first note of getting cultured was actually

1037
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 4: chosen with you and mind Paul So. On Instagram recently,

1038
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: amidst all the Los Angeles wildfires, Vin Diesel posted Fast

1039
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 4: and Furious Here we Go a picture and in the

1040
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,240
Speaker 4: caption said that his sister reached out to him requesting

1041
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 4: to film the rest a Fast X Part two, which

1042
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: would be the eleventh movie in that franchise.

1043
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't do it. Don't do it.

1044
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 4: Don So here's what Vin Diesel said in response, quote,

1045
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: los Angeles needs it now more than ever. Los Angeles

1046
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 4: is where Fast and Furious started filming twenty five years ago,

1047
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 4: and now Fast will finally return home. That's great news

1048
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: for you.

1049
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 5: Well, that's great news for you.

1050
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm okay, trust Tree, We're in the trust Tree.

1051
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: Full disclosure. I only made it halfway through Fast X.

1052
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yours truly one of the biggest car enthusiasts

1053
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 2: on the planet, and I only made it halfway through

1054
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: the last one. It was so laughably awful, and so

1055
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 2: I'm hoping maybe in the name of Los Angeles, Vin Diesel,

1056
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 2: please bring back the early days of the series.

1057
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 4: I've never seen a second of that franchise. Speaking of

1058
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 4: the super Bowl, which is coming up this weekend. Taylor Swift,

1059
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 4: girlfriend of Chiefs tied end Travis.

1060
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 5: Kelsey, I've heard of both of them.

1061
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 4: She grew up an Eagles fan. Actually, her dad was

1062
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 4: a die hard Eagles fan, although supposedly now he's big

1063
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 4: on the Chiefs And there's no question there that who

1064
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: he's going to be cheering for. There is though, you

1065
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 4: have to look at Travis's family. His brother Jason thirteen

1066
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 4: years in Philly, one of the most decorated offensive linemen.

1067
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: His wife, though, Kylie Kelsey, she bleeds Kelly Green, huge,

1068
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 4: huge Eagles fans where she grew up, so she will

1069
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: not be cheering for the Chiefs. She will be cheering

1070
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 4: for Travis as her brother in law. But cheering for

1071
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 4: the Eagles still.

1072
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 6: Okay, because she's always been an not because all her

1073
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 6: money pasically came from and.

1074
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 4: That was all set on a podcast, which they all

1075
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 4: have a podcast. You know, everyone has a podcast, she says, ironically,

1076
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: the podcast microphone.

1077
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: So Bertrand Barry, former Pro Bowl pass rusher of the

1078
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals. I always loved his story that his dad

1079
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: he's from Texas. Bertrand's from Texas, and he Bertrand hated

1080
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. His dad loved the Cowboys. Even when his

1081
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: own son b Train was playing for the Cardinals. His

1082
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 2: dad was still dressing boys gear, cheering for the Cowboys.

1083
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: He never did flip even in the name of his

1084
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: son during be Train's blank career. You know what there's

1085
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of me that respects that.

1086
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,280
Speaker 4: You gotta respect the loyalty has super Bowl halftime Kendrick

1087
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 4: Lamar Grammy's were this past weekend. Did either of you.

1088
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 2: Watch Lady Guy Guy saw that? Yeah?

1089
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Speaker 4: Okay, So Kendrick Lamar is performing with SiZ at halftime.

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Speaker 4: He won five Grammy Awards for his song Not Like Us,

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Speaker 4: which is so spectacular. Do you know you know the

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Speaker 4: history of it? How it's a distre Do you know this, Paul,

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Speaker 4: How it's a diss track to Drake, which is amazing

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Speaker 4: because that song won five Grammys, which is the total

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Speaker 4: number of Grammys Drake has won in his career. Very

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Speaker 4: excited for that to.

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Speaker 2: Be, didn't Drake?

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Speaker 4: Yes? And here's what's incredible.

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Speaker 5: You've been put the song.

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Speaker 4: As Kendrick Lamar was walking up on stage to accept

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Speaker 4: an award, everybody in the audience was singing very loudly

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Speaker 4: that song, the dis track. Could you imagine if you're

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Speaker 4: sitting there and you're watching, you're hearing that now everyone's

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Speaker 4: about to sing it at the super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: None of these people ever watched a grassy high What what's.

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Speaker 4: A nice throwback?

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Speaker 5: Thank you?

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Speaker 4: Nice? Nice, and nicely done. Beyonce also one big at

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Speaker 4: the Grammys. She has won thirty three Grammys, which is

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Speaker 4: the most among any artist, and it was her first

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Speaker 4: time winning Album of the Year for Cowboy Carter, which

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Speaker 4: she announced she is going on tour. And last, but

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Speaker 4: not least, the lunar New Year has coming gone in

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Speaker 4: the last week. It is the year of the Snake,

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Speaker 4: first time since twenty thirteen, which symbolizes wisdom, transformation, and

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Speaker 4: strategic growth. You've now been cultured. You're welcome.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that was pretty good. Actually, we need we need

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Speaker 5: some kind of short intro for that. I really believe that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you. I thought with the lunar stuff,

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Speaker 4: that is that is good stuff for the two of

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Speaker 4: you to take home and talk about with your children,

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Speaker 4: dinner table discussions.

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Speaker 5: My children don't live with me, you still talk to

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Speaker 5: them barely.

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Speaker 4: Well, this is something to open the door.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Danny, my son actually just got engaged.

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Speaker 2: A that's good. That's good. Okay, smile on your face

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Speaker 2: for a moment there. Danny and I were going to

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Speaker 2: leave and a therapist was going to come in. But

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Speaker 2: there's good. There's a smile.

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Speaker 5: On your If there's always room for that, trust me.

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Speaker 2: All right, So that's good. Yeah, I have some ammunition

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Speaker 2: where I actually uh try and you know, engage my

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Speaker 2: fifteen year old daughter and you know, trying to say

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Speaker 2: something anything interesting enough to keep her off TikTok. So

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Speaker 2: we'll see. Maybe I'm a little have a little better

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Speaker 2: chances of making that happen. You know, that's good.

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Speaker 6: There will be there'll be much discussion, especially with my

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Speaker 6: younger son, well, but with both of them when when

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Speaker 6: we get to free agency and the draft for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 6: because they are deeply invested, so some of that other

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Speaker 6: stuff we were talking about earlier, they would They were

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Speaker 6: definitely talking.

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Speaker 2: About, well, if you're if they're your offspring, they're going

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Speaker 2: to have an opinion. So I'm guessing the opinions fly

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Speaker 2: in the urban household.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you something. My youngest son here we go.

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Speaker 6: Every once in a while, he says a couple of things,

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, can you not be every single person

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Speaker 6: that I want to block on Twitter in my own house?

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Speaker 2: So maybe a'll little too strident in his opinion? Is

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Speaker 2: that what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, come on, dude, don't be that guy. There's

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Speaker 5: always some nuance here.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if Pete Carroll can get a gig

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Speaker 2: at age seventy three, and if you can hire a

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Speaker 2: Chip Kelly as his offensive coordinator for six million a year,

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Speaker 2: I mean you never quite know what's going to happen next.

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Speaker 4: Are either of you cheering for a team in the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl or you just gonna watch to watch?

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Speaker 5: I want the Eagles to lose.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so you don't care about the Chiefs winning. You

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Speaker 4: just want the Eagles to lose.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm okay with the Chiefs winning. I definitely

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Speaker 6: want the Eagles to lose.

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Speaker 2: Interesting, Paul, No, you can't have the three Pete As

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Speaker 2: someone who grew up watching Joe Montana, you just can't

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Speaker 2: have it. Just can't have it.

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Speaker 4: Just can't have so interesting coming from you. I guess

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Speaker 4: you do have cheese fatigue.

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Speaker 2: Just care Oh, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to doll it back for all the grief

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Speaker 6: you get about the Cowboys stuff, how come we're not

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Speaker 6: giving you more grief about the forty nine ers stuff

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Speaker 6: they're actually in the division.

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Speaker 2: Because I haven't really fouled or cared about the forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers for thirty years. But Mahomes is gonna come

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Speaker 2: along and you know, break a Joe Montana record. Well,

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Speaker 2: now we've got beef okay, so that's where I draw along.

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Speaker 4: That's nice. I don't have to explain what beef is

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Speaker 4: to you on my next getting Cultured. You're one step ahead.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, and that'll do it for this edition

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