WEBVTT - Margaret Cho CHOOSES Activism through Comedy

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to I Choose Me, the podcast about making choices, the

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<v Speaker 1>ones that define us, the ones that surprise us, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes the ones that take courage. I am joined by

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<v Speaker 1>a true force of nature today. A comedian, actor, musician, activist,

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<v Speaker 1>and someone who has spent decades unapologetically carving her own path.

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret cho has made us laugh, she's made us think,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's helped us feel seen, all while staying fiercely

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<v Speaker 1>herself in an industry that often asks people to be

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<v Speaker 1>anything but Margaret Choe. I am so happy you're here

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<v Speaker 1>with me today.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's dog party. It's a dog party.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so cute. We have your beautiful Lucia in the house. Baby.

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<v Speaker 2>She is a good girl. She just when she meets

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<v Speaker 2>other dogs, she's gotta be like mean for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>That's okay, that's okay, it's dog behavior. Dottie is very

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<v Speaker 1>excited to meet her. I've been talking her up, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>good all morning. So look she's she's ready.

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<v Speaker 2>She's so cute. I love that she's like rubbing her

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<v Speaker 2>little face on the carpet.

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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead and have her own party over there and

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<v Speaker 1>Lucia can watch so cute. Oh my gosh, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to meet you.

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<v Speaker 2>You.

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<v Speaker 1>We have been working our booties off since the late eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right alongside one another. That's right different arenas, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I feel like we are I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something incredible about both of us that we're here,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still here. I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good. It's good, I mean, and I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just different, like we watched like show business

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<v Speaker 2>change so much. Yeah, you know, and I enjoy it

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<v Speaker 2>right now. I think it's really fun. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>really different. I couldn't even imagined what it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>would be calm, but it's very it's really interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, no, no part of me could have

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<v Speaker 1>imagined social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the internet, like the Internet in general, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, just so why the world at your fingertips? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's everyone knows everyone. I love it. I know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really very connecting, yeah, and unifying and in the best

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<v Speaker 1>all the best ways. But I love it. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gonna be rough, yes, But you've had so many

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<v Speaker 1>chapters in this long career that you've had multiple decade

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<v Speaker 1>career you've been obviously comedian, an actor, a musician, and activist.

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<v Speaker 1>Which of those versions of Margaret do you think is

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<v Speaker 1>the truest.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, comedian. It's the one thing that I do the most.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the one thing that I have to

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<v Speaker 2>do because you get if you don't do it for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, you get really unfamiliar with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like to be a muscle.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to seah, it's a muscle. It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>you really have to stay fit. So you have to

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<v Speaker 2>do it as much as you can. So you'll you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see comedians like I have to have to work out

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<v Speaker 2>every week.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll go and like work stuff out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you do that. So Yeah, the comedy Store mostly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good night if you just happened to be

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<v Speaker 1>at the comedy Store and you stroll in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's but it's everybody's good. Everybody. You know, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see everybody from like I usually do shows there with

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<v Speaker 2>like Jay Leno or Bilberr. You know the these like

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<v Speaker 2>everybody like Ali Wong or Whitney Cummings or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the people that are really really famous and that do

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<v Speaker 2>this don't do it for a long long time. People

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<v Speaker 2>like our Cineo hall. You know, you know it's like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's important because we have to keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you don't use it, you'll lose it, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And quickly. So I I do it a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>less than those guys because I live far. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I live far. I lived by you. I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>bright here. Okay, it's actually as city. Yeah, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>actually far to go into Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I understand. Yeah, and you don't really want to.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels like a real like it's you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>I lived in the Hollywood Hills, I think I would

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<v Speaker 2>have an easier time of it, which a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys do you know they live right down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have to commute a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you have to make an effort, like take a flight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is almost like that, go to the airport.

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<v Speaker 1>You've had ten stand up? Am I correct on that? Ten?

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<v Speaker 1>Live just huge tours or.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so about that, probably more, But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It's all one long, continuous tour in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's never there's never been a stop, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because when one ends, another one starts right, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>anover a real break. So that to me, it's all

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<v Speaker 2>just one long thing, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, one long career. Yeah, doing what you love, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is incredible. It's good, it's incredible. You've also spent

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<v Speaker 1>decades speaking your mind, even when it hasn't been easy,

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<v Speaker 1>and even when it hasn't been popular. You were outspoken.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that about you. Do you think that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a fearlessness that you have or does it come

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<v Speaker 1>from something else?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was my upbringing because when I was a

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<v Speaker 2>really little kid, my parents owned a gay bookstore and.

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<v Speaker 1>The the that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All the people that worked for in San Francisco

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<v Speaker 2>and San Francisco, all the people that worked for them

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<v Speaker 2>were early early followers of Harvey Milk, who was the

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<v Speaker 2>first openly gay elected official in the in existence. So

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<v Speaker 2>gay politics have always been a part of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, since I was a little little kid. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, being from that, it's part of

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<v Speaker 2>my destiny. It's like what I was always meant to do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. So you know, it went from you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being from there to uh fundraising and helping people living

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<v Speaker 2>and dying of AIDS, and then it was working towards

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<v Speaker 2>equality for gay people, which is really really important. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the trajectory of it is, I've I've been

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<v Speaker 2>able to watch the queer community really rise in power politically,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's just been a part of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>But yet I think it starts from my childhood from

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm from.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting that you had that kind of community

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<v Speaker 1>at such a young age. I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people didn't know anything about at that time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>or we're afraid of right.

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<v Speaker 2>It sort of started to rise in the eighties, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it was really actually in the seventies when people recognizing

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<v Speaker 2>that there was this mysterious disease that was seemingly killing

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<v Speaker 2>gay men and they called it a gay cancer. And

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<v Speaker 2>then throughout the eighties then we really started to see

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<v Speaker 2>these men die in really devastating numbers. And then by

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<v Speaker 2>the nineties it was a full on pandemic, know, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I think like that's when we were focusing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot on fundraising. That's when you saw a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people at the awards shows were the red ribbon on

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<v Speaker 2>their lapel and then it became a cause for celebrities

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<v Speaker 2>to get behind. I think the person who was really

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<v Speaker 2>responsible for that is Elizabeth Taylor. You know, Elizabeth Taylor.

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<v Speaker 2>I think after the death of Rock Hudson realized that

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<v Speaker 2>all of her friends, which Elizabeth Taylor, who was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much like the quint essential or like the Queen of

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<v Speaker 2>all hags, like she was the Hag of hags, and

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<v Speaker 2>she was trying to trying to make sense of all

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<v Speaker 2>of her people dying. So she realized that if I

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<v Speaker 2>step in and make it a thing, make it cool or.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe a conversation, yeah, to support people with AIDS, support

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<v Speaker 3>AIDS fundraising, and so she I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a lot to do with the acceptance her and

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<v Speaker 2>I think Princess Diana who was holding AIDS patients, like

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<v Speaker 2>physically touching them, hugging them the time. We saw that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>going into these like hospice rooms and being with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with these patients who people were afraid to touch, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think, yeah, both of them in conjunction with

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<v Speaker 2>kind of people being more understanding of gay lifestyles, understanding

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<v Speaker 2>that gay people are just like everybody else, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that that was Yeah, So that all sort of developed

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<v Speaker 2>around eighties and nineties, and you know, there's still a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of homophobia still very much.

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<v Speaker 1>We've come so far, Yeah, we still have so far

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<v Speaker 1>to go. Yes, I don't know. I feel optimistic because

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<v Speaker 1>I have a very strong community of gay friends. My

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<v Speaker 1>best friends are always gay. Yeah, because I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. There's a realness there. There's like a

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<v Speaker 1>connection that I don't feel from from most other people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, what's this when you have a connection and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't let it go? Like a rooted and solid friendships

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<v Speaker 1>made out of substance. Yes, you know, Yes, And I

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<v Speaker 1>just I've always been an advocate and like just surround myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And also they're the most fun people. Hello. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're my favorite people to be around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So there there's like an artistic nature to the community.

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<v Speaker 2>There's I mean, there's so much. But I think that

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<v Speaker 2>what happens is that a lot of times gay men

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<v Speaker 2>are really attracted to female strengths. Yeah, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's usually what it is. Is they're attracted to female strength,

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<v Speaker 2>They're attracted to female beauty, they're attracted to female intelligence.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's all these qualities that make for a

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<v Speaker 2>good hag. But I think it's a very I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a really important part of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been connected to gay men and I'm gay myself.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's part of it too, But I have an

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<v Speaker 2>even tighter connection with gay man.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you define hag for hag? Is it can sound bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's not a bad it's not a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it is it is a woman who hangs out

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<v Speaker 2>with gay men and.

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<v Speaker 1>He just loves surrounding herself with gay men.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and who is often chosen by the gay man

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<v Speaker 2>to be like you know, and that's like Madonna. Madonna

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<v Speaker 2>is the ultimate hag. You know, there's nobody more beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody more cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, wait your Madonna layout on Instagram that

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<v Speaker 1>you recreated her life?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you? Oh yeah, I did her a healthy photo shoot.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very fun. I'm so excited about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend put that together. He's a gay man, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was his idea and he did the photographs. He

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<v Speaker 2>did the look too, like he actually got the outfit

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<v Speaker 2>together with the swatchwatch and every like. It was really

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<v Speaker 2>like spot on as really incredible because gay men often

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<v Speaker 2>if they're in the arts, paved a lot of attention

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<v Speaker 2>to detail. So he was very very meticulous about like

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<v Speaker 2>curating the look and making it as perfect as he could.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was really really special.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that characteristic in anybody, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I love better and it gave attention to detail because

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<v Speaker 2>it's aesthetics and it's like it has to be right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the one thing that was different about your picture

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<v Speaker 1>of Donna's is you have this incredible body.

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<v Speaker 2>Art all over you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, and I am mesmerized. Like all they want

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<v Speaker 1>to do is say what why do you have that

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo right there? And what does that one mean to?

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<v Speaker 1>We could talk for hours because yeah, just full body.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm full body. They're like they don't have meaning as

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<v Speaker 2>much as the meaning is really in the tattooer. Every

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<v Speaker 2>art piece that I have is memorable because I had

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with the tattooer that was a deep friendship

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<v Speaker 2>that sometimes was a love that sometimes was just an

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<v Speaker 2>artistic connection. So right now now I'm actually getting tattooed

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend. I get tattooed fairly infrequently nowadays, just because

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<v Speaker 2>I have very little space left but on your body,

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<v Speaker 2>on my body, but I mostly get Right now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in relationship with Korean tattooers. Okay, so I'm working with

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<v Speaker 2>this one right now that he's going to tattoo me

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend, who's really really special and he you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still like kind of illegal in Korea, and so

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<v Speaker 2>they come to America, but they still have tattoos salons

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<v Speaker 2>there and artists work there, but they have to have

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<v Speaker 2>like medical licenses. They have to sort of be like

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<v Speaker 2>categories under doctor in a way. It's really it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a medical thing. Yeah, it's it's very strange. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have bath houses in Korea and they won't let

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<v Speaker 2>you in with tattoos sometimes because a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>who are heavily tattooed were connected to like gang gang

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and like organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it's very it's a stereotypic, it's very weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so tattooing is not as accepted there, but for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason, the artists are really really exceptional. For some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>it's made the illegality of it has made them the

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<v Speaker 2>best in the world. And you love body art, I

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<v Speaker 2>do you love it? I do?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a form of self expression.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just I don't know, I'm just used to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And all the people that worked for my father when

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<v Speaker 2>I was growing up at the bookstore at the gay

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<v Speaker 2>bookstore were all heavily tattooed, and so I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be my destiny. Like I was, this

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<v Speaker 2>is my family and where we're all going to be

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<v Speaker 2>heavily tattooed, which is in the seventies was really unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>So I kind of learned it from them, and I

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<v Speaker 2>always knew that's what I would do. And my father

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<v Speaker 2>would put photographs of like these men who were fully tattooed,

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<v Speaker 2>would like he would put photographs of them naked on

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<v Speaker 2>our refrigerator like some people would put like painting that

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<v Speaker 2>the kids would do, or like a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>paper that you got an a on, or test that

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<v Speaker 2>you raced. No, my father had pictures of these naked

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<v Speaker 2>men with full body tattoos on our refrigerator, like under

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<v Speaker 2>a magnet, So we would like that was our primary image.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you put the magnet over the penis or.

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<v Speaker 2>Did well, you didn't really see the penis the art.

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<v Speaker 2>You would just see like the butt and like the

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<v Speaker 2>It was more the focus of the pictures were more

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<v Speaker 2>to get the tattoos.

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<v Speaker 1>The beauty of the arts. Yeah, oh that's gorgeous though,

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<v Speaker 1>but very unusual.

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<v Speaker 2>Very usual, but there was one guy who had penises

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<v Speaker 2>all in the arts. Okay, so then you did get

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<v Speaker 2>penis there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I wanted you to see the penis on the fridge.

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<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of penises there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, good, Okay. You have helped so many people through

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<v Speaker 1>your advocacy, so many people that you have made feel

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<v Speaker 1>seen and heard, which is so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is it that makes you feel seen or when

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel the most seen in her?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess when I see other Asian American women doing comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>Like for me, it's really powerful to watch somebody like

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<v Speaker 2>Ali Wang. It's really special for me because it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's my that's my legacy, you know, that's like I

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<v Speaker 2>started that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I get to sit back and enjoy what people

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<v Speaker 2>like otsco ok is doing. Like she's just phenomenal. I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen she's amazing. So she Otsko Okotska, Yeah, Otsko

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<v Speaker 2>is fabulous and she you've seen her, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>see she's got the bowl haircut. She's the beautiful Asian

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<v Speaker 2>woman with the book.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good look.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her. She's fabulous. So she is, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that when I see her, I'm like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like watching my kids, you know, And so like when

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<v Speaker 2>I see Bowen Yang, it's like watching my son where

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Kim Booster he's my firstborn son.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, So you paved the way. Yeah, for

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<v Speaker 1>all these upcoming artists.

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<v Speaker 2>These amazing Asian American comedians who are just doing such

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<v Speaker 2>incredible work. So for me, it's like a just a

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<v Speaker 2>powerful thing. So that makes me feel seen because I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is like something that I started and they're continuing on.

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<v Speaker 1>You must be so proud of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a really good feeling, I know, because like I

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<v Speaker 1>can really because of my girls, Like when I see them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, facing similar challenges that I did and overcoming them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the same feeling of like I must have had

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<v Speaker 1>a part in that, I must have done something right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. It's like a wonderful feeling of satisfaction. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have children, but if.

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<v Speaker 3>I have children, I have like a lot of r children.

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<v Speaker 2>I have three cats too, so I have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of animals. But I have a kind of a familial

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<v Speaker 2>feeling towards a lot of people in comedy that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Do you feel like you have that maternal and sink,

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<v Speaker 1>just that maternal energy in you?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. Also. I come from like the I

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<v Speaker 2>was mothered a lot in comedy by Joan Rivers, who

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<v Speaker 2>was really affectionate and warm and stood by me for years,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and she's just so supportive and so just

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly giving. And I'm just I'm so lucky to have

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<v Speaker 2>experienced that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I am so inspired by Margaret and her confidence.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, there, Amy Robot and TJ Holmes here from the

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<v Speaker 4>Amy and TJ podcast, where we are doing the exact

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<v Speaker 4>opposite of taking a summer vacation. Yeah, I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>There's entirely too much going on in the world right

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<v Speaker 4>now to not be talking about all this stuff. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>drama at the White House, drama at the World Cup,

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<v Speaker 1>You have a new tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sooligarchy, it's like that. It's like oligarchy says we know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people have like these billionaires who are just

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<v Speaker 2>buying up everything and taking all the money and taking

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<v Speaker 2>all the resources. So I wanted to do my own.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be the choligarchy where it's my nation,

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<v Speaker 2>it's your nation, it's you know, it's giving you the market.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like the dictator and I want everybody to be

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<v Speaker 2>part of my country. And so that's what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>That's your jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like and be on the ride. I love this. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's like taking the bowl by the horns.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, let's let's join my country for the

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<v Speaker 2>ninety minutes that we have and you know you'll be

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<v Speaker 2>transported to a new commonwealth.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's like there are people that you

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<v Speaker 1>know because we grow as artists, as comedian, you grow

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<v Speaker 1>and things you're interested in talking about you're not interested

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<v Speaker 1>in now maybe, like do you think your audience holds

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<v Speaker 1>you to something that maybe maybe doesn't feel like what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to focus on right now in your career.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Like I feel so invigorated by performing

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<v Speaker 2>and like kind of what my audience is telling me

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<v Speaker 2>what they want to talk about. Because when you're doing comedy,

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<v Speaker 2>like you really see where the country's at. You really

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<v Speaker 2>see what people are laughing at, what they want to

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<v Speaker 2>hear more about. Like, right right now, it is very politicized.

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<v Speaker 2>People are very angry, you know, they're really really frustrated

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<v Speaker 2>and what's happening. They're first frustrated to have much everything costs.

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<v Speaker 2>They're angry that we're at a war if they don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why they're in there, frustrated at the stupidity of

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on daily, you know, in this administration. So

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it's it's a pleasure to write about that

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about that because I'm also frustrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everyone on both sides is frustrated with some

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of what's going on, Yes, for sure, So what

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<v Speaker 1>a great opportunity to bring levity to it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so polarizing, and so it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy, it's really crazy. And I thought it was bad before,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I thought it was. I was really a very

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<v Speaker 2>very loud critic of the Bush administration, and now I

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<v Speaker 2>would have been campaigning for him for a third term.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like I was, So we were so we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know how good we had it.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh huh. So you've always done political comedy, you know

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<v Speaker 1>here and there. Yeah I love that because a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people are afraid to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but it's also what I find funny and

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<v Speaker 2>what I find interesting. So there's some people that are

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<v Speaker 2>really really great at it, and like, so I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out my place there, you know. So

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<v Speaker 2>my my focus right now is basically politics, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>also I like to go very high brow and also

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<v Speaker 2>very low brow. So it's as high minded as you

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<v Speaker 2>can get and as crass as you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>I heard you say that when something's bombing and you

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<v Speaker 1>can feel it, it makes you go harder. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>you want it to bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>So bad, Like I'm my philosophy is like if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like me, I'm going to make you hate me.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's really not a good attitude to have. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's also really funny because people get so mad. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's also that's just part of live performance. You just

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<v Speaker 2>have to put it all out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds more interesting than feeling bad about yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's very combat it. It's very comb at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it's your standing up for you yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's just words, you know, it's just talking.

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<v Speaker 1>You have something like in your that you can remember

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<v Speaker 1>where that was like happening, and like what level it

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<v Speaker 1>got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's only gotten to a level now where it

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<v Speaker 2>was really bad, Like it's got really violent, Like there

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<v Speaker 2>was a woman who threatened to murder me, Like she

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<v Speaker 2>actually had to be removed from the show room. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I was trying to walk from one show. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a place that had two theaters and I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to walk to the other theater to do a show there,

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<v Speaker 2>and she grabbed me and she said that she was

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<v Speaker 2>going to pump my head full of bullets. And this

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<v Speaker 2>was really I mean, it was so crazy. And I

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<v Speaker 2>then she was removed by security, and they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stayed with me, you know, they had like arm guards

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<v Speaker 2>stay with me all night, and they you know, put

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<v Speaker 2>me in my car at the end of the night.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was like, this is just over something that

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<v Speaker 2>is so stupid. It's not even like I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know why she was so angry about it, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was like her her identity had been threatened, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>because I was talking about Donald Trump and talking about

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<v Speaker 2>mega and my feelings about it. Just the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>I was talking about it made her want to kill me.

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<v Speaker 2>And she had said that she was a gun owner.

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<v Speaker 2>She had said that she had a gun and she

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<v Speaker 2>could she could do that at any time, and that

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<v Speaker 2>it was going to happen. And so it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you go, well, the reality of gun violence is really terrifying,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the true thing. But I was making a

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<v Speaker 2>joke that wasn't even it could be a bipartisan joke

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<v Speaker 2>because it was about Trump having diarrhea, which he legitimately has,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's something that a Republican knows it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know he has diarrhea?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that all of the audio captured from

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<v Speaker 2>the Oval Office, the amount of like wet farts that

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard that's been captured by you know, CNN or

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<v Speaker 2>even but any out any news outlet, would be happy

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<v Speaker 2>to provide you with any number. It's got to be

0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:27.280
<v Speaker 2>like outtakes, like a real yea of all far and

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 2>people holding their nose. It's like it's such a to me,

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like totally a bipartisan issue, Like that's not even

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<v Speaker 2>I think Trump himself would admit to having.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny no matter who has that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's funny no matter who has them, and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>even really a political statement. But this woman felt like

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<v Speaker 2>it threatened her so much that she had to kill.

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<v Speaker 1>Me over a fart joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really haying. But it's like if I have

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<v Speaker 2>to die for that, I think that's I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's all right. I don't know, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's really I think it's really sad, Becau because you

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<v Speaker 2>used there used to be Republicans and Democrats used to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to talk to each other like there used

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<v Speaker 2>to be debates. There used to be a kind of

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.439
<v Speaker 2>cordial nature across the aisle that you know, we agree

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>to disagree, agreed to disagree, and just move on to

0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 2>the next thing because we just want what's best for

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 2>the American people and that's all we want. And now

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 2>it's become something different. So yeah, it's very strange. But yeah,

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what I'm still doing comedy for.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you don't have an encounter with anyone like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope not. I hope not. It's not fun, but

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>it's also the reality of putting yourself out there, putting

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 2>yourself out there in the reality that there are a

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 2>lot of guns out there, which to me is really

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm really scared about that. You know, guns in general, Yeah,

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:54.120
<v Speaker 2>guns are final. Yeah, you know, I just don't want

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't want to have to be a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that. I really am scared of maths to

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm scared of the amount of guns that are

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Scared of mass shootings.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've developed like a fear of going to the

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:10.280
<v Speaker 1>grocery store, yeah, going to the movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we're not safe anywhere, you know, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like our lives are just you know, there were I

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<v Speaker 2>think something like eight mass shootings in America on fourth

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<v Speaker 2>of July, and they don't cover it in the news.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't what, they didn't even mention those.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they don't cover it in the news because it's

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<v Speaker 2>such a daily occurrence that it's almost like not newsworthy anymore.

0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Some people are scared. Some people are like, oh, when

0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it's your time, it's your time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, but I don't. I think it's so unnatural,

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 2>like it shouldn't be our time. Like it's like there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many other things that are going.

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<v Speaker 1>To kill you, you.

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Know, like you there's so many, so many things that

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<v Speaker 2>but guns are just something that you could it could preventable.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to something. You are playing a why

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<v Speaker 1>character in second season now of Disney Plus show called

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<v Speaker 1>Percy Jackson. Oh Yes, and the Olympics, and you play

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 1>a character called Wasp. I love it. Yes, you have

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<v Speaker 1>one eye or tooth.

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<v Speaker 2>We share an ee me and Sander Bernhard and Christian

0:27:13.920 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Shawl share one eyeball and we pop it between. It's

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it's such a fabulous, fantastical show. You know, I love

0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>this rise of like fantasy. You know, we have so

0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 2>much of this, you know, of course of like House

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 2>of the Dragon and Game of Thrones and now you

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>know Percy Jackson, which is so tremendous, and so it's

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.879
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful. It's a beautiful world that they've created. And

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.479
<v Speaker 2>the books are so people are such huge fans. So

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>we're from the books and yeah, we all share one eye.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's really fun. It sounds fun. I've never seen it.

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:48.040
<v Speaker 1>I've got to check it out because I like the movie. Yes,

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and so now there's a series.

0:27:50.160 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and the kids are so they're just beautiful and

0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 2>they are it's just a very like exciting show. So

0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I love that it's so successful, and you know, there's

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.160
<v Speaker 2>such a world around it, and there's such a fandom

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>that are just so excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you said Sandra Bernhardt. Yes, did the kids

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<v Speaker 1>know who's among them the queens of.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think they've been told. But of course,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Sandra, I was always freaking out about Sandra

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 2>is my friend and I'm a Sandra Bernhardt ologist, So

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 2>she gets her ear talked off because I'm always asking

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:29.320
<v Speaker 2>her a million questions about her career and her life.

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, she's just, to me, just the pinnacle of cool.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's a cool lady. That is definitely for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>Welcome to the Orange Doesn't Fall Far the podcast where

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 5>Reality TV meets real life. I'm Tamra, Judge.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Sophia.

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<v Speaker 5>Each week we're spilling the tea on pop culture, relationships, motherhood, dating, drama,

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 5>and what it's really like growing up in the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of reality TV chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>You've lived in the world of fame for a long

0:29:15.640 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 1>time and it, you know, it has not always great.

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 1>What do you think do you think if you were

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<v Speaker 1>to do it over, would you choose fame again?

0:29:25.520 --> 0:29:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, I live in a very low level of it,

0:29:28.040 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>so you know. And also, comedians are like the work

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>courses of the entertainment industry. So nobody's that excited when

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 2>they see a comic. I mean not really. They're like

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>kind of cool. But also, I'm so non descript. There's

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>something about me. I never get recognized. It never it's

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 2>never an issue like I never had to you know, but.

0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>You've had a lot of different iterations like your style,

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>and you've reinvented your look so many times.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>But nobody's ever I've never felt like my privacy has

0:29:57.400 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 2>been invaded. I have a couple of friends who are

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 2>like super who when we went out, they would have

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>to wear a full like disguise because they just could

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 2>not be seen in public or would just never be

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:12.280
<v Speaker 2>able to do anything, you know, And I find that

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 2>really suffocating and it was really hard for them. So

0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.959
<v Speaker 2>I've never approached that level. It might be fun to

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:20.200
<v Speaker 2>do it, I don't know, it might be fun to

0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>experience it, but I've never had that experience.

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>But there's still like, do you think that the pros

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 1>outweigh that.

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Cons Yes, yes, yes for you.

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I think your friends that have it on a different

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>level would say that.

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 2>I think so because it's like the I think the

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 2>benefit of being able to really like sort of stretch

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:42.440
<v Speaker 2>out as an artist, you know, you know, they're like

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 2>really great actors, so that they've been able to do

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:48.080
<v Speaker 2>so many things because of their fame too, because of

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:52.040
<v Speaker 2>their notoriety. It's been very helpful. But then also it's

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.840
<v Speaker 2>painful when it fades and then they're like what do I?

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Who am I without that? That's really hard?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I mean I reach that point just as

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 1>a human when I was fifty, Like you're fifty seven,

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty four, But you reached that point. What was

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:09.920
<v Speaker 1>it like for you? Because I can tell you what

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 1>it was like for me, but like, what was it

0:31:11.720 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>like for you as you entered your fifties and that

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of new era of your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think for me, I mean, it was really

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>it was great not to have a period. I love menopause,

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Like it was great not to bleed Like that was

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>so awesome.

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, because it's torturous. Yes, we've endored it long enough.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.680
<v Speaker 2>For so long, and it was really physically like like

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 2>menopause for me was physically really easy because I got

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:46.840
<v Speaker 2>into hormone replacements therapy super early and so I found

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the right combination of things that I needed and worked

0:31:50.840 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>with that easily. Yeah, so that it was easy. But yeah,

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>like because I was never an angeneu, I've never been

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>like a pretty girl. I've never been like sort of

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>held up to any kind of beauty standard. So I've

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 2>always felt like kind of the same all the way,

0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and there's some ease to that because when you're old

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>then it doesn't really matter. He just kind of like

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:17.360
<v Speaker 2>it's like you.

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>People are more accepting.

0:32:18.600 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>People are totally accepting because I don't have a legendary

0:32:22.280 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>beauty that faded, like there was nothing that sort of

0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>set me apart that way. I was always funny, So

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 2>that was to me, like my strength or my beauty

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>was in the fact that I was funny, not in

0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:37.640
<v Speaker 2>anything else. So it was very easy to age.

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>What about the time for the show All American Girl,

0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:42.560
<v Speaker 1>they asked you to lose weight?

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yes, well they forced me. It wasn't an ass

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:47.760
<v Speaker 2>It was like, you have to lose weight or else

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.280
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to be able to do the show.

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Were you overweight? It wasn't something that I saw as

0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 1>an issue.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>No, But for television I was. I mean I wasn't

0:32:56.320 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 2>a physically I didn't feel that physically large. But for television,

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean, in nineteen ninety.

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>Four, they weren't concerned about your health.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>No, but I was like a book fifty one hundred

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>and fifty pounds. That's like monstrous in TV, you know,

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that is like to be one hundred and

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:18.520
<v Speaker 2>fifty pounds on television in the nineties for a woman

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<v Speaker 2>was like, not, that's not happening, like never seen before, right,

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean I think, well, for maybe Rosanne could have

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 2>gotten away with it, but she was like she was

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 2>so castigated for her body, but she was maybe one

0:33:35.800 --> 0:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>sixty you know, like she was not that large. But

0:33:40.400 --> 0:33:44.200
<v Speaker 2>there was such a around the nineties and around women's bodies.

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Then there was such a yeah stereotype that you had

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 2>to be really really.

0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Think that was the heroin chic yeah era.

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even even like it went outside of like

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.640
<v Speaker 2>culture and fashion sort for me the world, and then

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 2>I think in a lot of ways it got worse

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and like y t U K and the early part

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 2>of the two thousands, you know where we saw a

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 2>real like just a need to control women's bodies, but

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 2>shaming you know, people's bodies. And you know when they

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 2>were saying like Jessica Simpson was like overweight and she

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 2>was not she at all.

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she was just bloated that day, like her.

0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Bodies do thing, but she looked great. And it's just

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.879
<v Speaker 2>when you look back at like how we shamed women

0:34:32.000 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 2>so much for just having bodies that I'm like shocked

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>by all of that. But yeah, for me, it was

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 2>the same. You know that there was so much a

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>scrutiny put on us, but also because we were the

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:48.160
<v Speaker 2>first Asian American family on television, so and there was

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 2>a stereotype about Asian American women that were not Asian

0:34:51.000 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 2>American women, but Asian women in general, that were like

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:57.239
<v Speaker 2>petite and like you know, delicate, and I was not.

0:34:57.680 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>So that was very difficult. So yeah, I lost a

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 2>lot of weight in a very short period of time,

0:35:02.719 --> 0:35:05.319
<v Speaker 2>and I think I never quite got over it. I

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:08.279
<v Speaker 2>think it gave me a very legitimate eating disorder, which

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.799
<v Speaker 2>I still kind of struggle with. Like when you have

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:14.719
<v Speaker 2>that in your history, you know that you're yeah, but

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:19.600
<v Speaker 2>you're told to be too fat to exist, then you're

0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 2>it's really shattering.

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 1>So and it sticks with you.

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sticks with you your whole life.

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:26.279
<v Speaker 1>How do you manage it? Now?

0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>I think now I'm so like I'm just over it,

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't care, I don't care, I don't care.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 2>But it also like and also now I'm at a

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 2>weight that I consider safe, You're healthiest, healthy, and also manageable,

0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like because I'm not dieting to get to this weight,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't do anything. Like it's kind of like for me,

0:35:47.360 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 2>it's it's just freedom. But it's also a kind of

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>maturity that you get to your like, oh I don't

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>care anymore. It doesn't really make a difference.

0:35:56.360 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 1>So you think about longevity now at your age, and

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like you alter your diets and your exercise and like

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>how you take care of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm mostly concerned with dementia, like you're mostly concerned.

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>About like brain health.

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, brain health, and like I'm like, cognitive decline is

0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:18.120
<v Speaker 2>my biggest fear, so you know, and then in order

0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:20.359
<v Speaker 2>to stave off that, you have to have a good diet,

0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>you have to have exercise, you have to move in order.

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:25.520
<v Speaker 2>It's not just one part of the body, you know,

0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:29.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like everything works together. But yeah, that's what keeps me.

0:36:30.080 --> 0:36:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I play music and I'm a multi instrumentalist, so

0:36:33.080 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I play a lot of different instruments just to keep

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:41.839
<v Speaker 2>my brain kind of functioning and learning because that's where

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I get really nervous.

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Same, It's something we're talking about more and more now.

0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, first we're talking about cardiac health. Now we're

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>talking about brain health, which I'm the Yeah, I'm definitely

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>on your same page about that. Because you want to

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>be able to remember things. I think I need your

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 1>memory to be a comedian.

0:37:03.360 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Right, So it's very important, Like, yeah.

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to lose your just your grasp.

0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>On things, right. And also you want to be able

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 2>to still be adaptable and still be able to Like

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 2>what's so great about youth is that you like adaptable

0:37:19.719 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 2>to you able to take on new ideas and understand

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>things from other perspectives and you're not so rigid. And

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>so I want to keep my mind youthful.

0:37:29.520 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 1>It's so important. What do you think it is that

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:33.680
<v Speaker 1>keeps you grounded in life?

0:37:34.680 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, my animals, so I have to, like, you know,

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 2>when you have cats, it's like you you're at their

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 2>beck and call twenty more seven. So I have to

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:46.480
<v Speaker 2>make sure that they're doing okay. I have to have

0:37:46.480 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 2>to groom them a lot. I do clean a lot

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 2>of ears. I cut about seventy two nails a week

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 2>because I have, you know, four animals, So I have

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>to cut all their nails a little bit, just a

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 2>little bit, because I don't want to have a big deal,

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 2>So I just cut them a little bit. I do

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>all the stuff. Oh my god, I love you.

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I cut my dog's hairs too, Yeah, my hairs. I

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.680
<v Speaker 1>cut their hair. I don't want to send them out.

0:38:08.840 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they enjoy that.

0:38:10.000 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 2>They don't like that. I mean, I don't like I

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 2>had a van come around and they would do the

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.759
<v Speaker 2>grooming in the van, but they don't like that either.

0:38:17.440 --> 0:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>So I just do it all myself. And then it's

0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 2>just a little bit at a time. But it keeps

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 2>you grounded because it's like you're just like.

0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:24.359
<v Speaker 1>You're taking care of something.

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like gardening, but with an animal. I garden also

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 2>do a little bit. I mean a lot of my

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:31.839
<v Speaker 2>pants die, but I'm very I like to buy them.

0:38:32.239 --> 0:38:33.360
<v Speaker 2>It's really fun to buy.

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Play and they look so pretty when you buy them.

0:38:35.000 --> 0:38:37.520
<v Speaker 2>They're so pretty when you buy them, and they're pretty

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>if they last. You know, some cactuses are thriving.

0:38:41.280 --> 0:38:43.560
<v Speaker 1>You're doing you're doing good with Yeah, they're really good

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>cactus forever. What is what is something that you've experienced

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 1>in your career? Let was a setback in the moment

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that you now, with this new perspective of age and

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>wisdom see differently.

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think like doing my television show All American

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Girl was canceled out after one season, and it was

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 2>so devastating, and I realized that if I had continue

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:08.440
<v Speaker 2>with the show, if it had been able to go

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:11.960
<v Speaker 2>on for years, maybe I would be disinterested now in comedy,

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Like I wouldn't be as good of a comedian because

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't wasn't able to succeed as a television star,

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it made me really focused on being a comedian, and

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I worked really hard to get to a place of

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 2>like doing it, and I learned to like really be

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with it and really love it, and I do

0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 2>it daily now, So I may not be as interested

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.359
<v Speaker 2>of like all those things. Like I think if I'd

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.239
<v Speaker 2>been a success as a television star, I might just

0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, have you know, huge estate in Santa Barbara

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 2>and never leave. Like I might have a golf tournament

0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:49.680
<v Speaker 2>like every year as just one and have like all

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 2>the famous and then that's it. Like I might be

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>selling jam you know, giving Megan Markle a run for

0:39:57.000 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>her Jammy money. Like you know, there was like a

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.880
<v Speaker 2>hunger that I have as an artist that I don't

0:40:03.080 --> 0:40:05.399
<v Speaker 2>think I would have had if I had been able

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.839
<v Speaker 2>to sort of make that trajectory as a television star.

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:09.160
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 1>It makes sense. What is it that motivates you now

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>more than when you were younger? Like was your motivation

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 1>younger to work to survive?

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>Yes, all those things all?

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:22.239
<v Speaker 1>Or was it for the art?

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>It is all of those things. It's all like just

0:40:24.920 --> 0:40:28.520
<v Speaker 2>to be better, to be good, to understand who I

0:40:28.560 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 2>am as a comedian, to understand how to be a

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 2>good actor too. Like acting is just this mystery that

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 2>I still like, I can't get my head around, Like

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 2>how do people do this? And you know, like it's

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:44.360
<v Speaker 2>just a miracle thing, like you between those words action

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and cut, you get to be somebody else for those

0:40:47.200 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 2>like few sacred minutes and like what is that about?

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>And I'm still trying to figure out that mystery.

0:40:53.840 --> 0:40:57.399
<v Speaker 1>It's addictive. Yeah, that moment And I always talk about

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.279
<v Speaker 1>that too, because there's so much about the business and

0:40:59.320 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>the industry that I don't enjoy, but it's that moment

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 1>between action and cut. Yeah, that's something magical happens, and

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:09.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like it just turns something on inside of you.

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's this rare thing that nobody in the

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 2>world gets to experience except actors.

0:41:15.400 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know, being outside of your life.

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for this moment, you're not you. You're this person

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.800
<v Speaker 2>and that person is that is that person, and we're

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:27.600
<v Speaker 2>not us, but we're something else and we're creating a

0:41:27.719 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 2>reality so that people can watch and feel something. It's powerful.

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>So I still find it such a divine mystery, and

0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm so curious about all of these other people and

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 2>their ways of doing it. So way. I love working

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.280
<v Speaker 2>with people who are really into it, you know, actors

0:41:45.280 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 2>who are really into it that can show me new

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:50.400
<v Speaker 2>ways of doing this. You know, it's powerful.

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>What do you ask them?

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, Like, the thing that I was really impressed with

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 2>recently is I did a movie with Patrick Wilson. He's great,

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>He's such a beautiful actor. And so it's a movie

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 2>about a school shooting and he plays a teacher who

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 2>was shot and I'm like a principal who comes in

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to like boss everybody around. I'm like

0:42:11.080 --> 0:42:13.600
<v Speaker 2>the bad guy, and he's like a hero in the school.

0:42:13.640 --> 0:42:17.320
<v Speaker 2>But he and I were fighting in scenes and his arm,

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 2>his character's arm is like not working anymore because it

0:42:21.680 --> 0:42:26.400
<v Speaker 2>was shot and he hid it from me. In the scenes,

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 2>so I as a as a person like me, I

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:34.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't even notice that he had that weakness. I didn't

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>notice it until we watched it on the big screen

0:42:37.360 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and I was watching him hiding his arm and I

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 2>was like, that is so interesting because that frailty was

0:42:45.960 --> 0:42:49.960
<v Speaker 2>not perceptible to me in the moment, but on the

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 2>screen it was so profound. And I was asking him.

0:42:53.760 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're hiding your arm that whole time.

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:57.880
<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, yeah, I was, And I was like

0:42:57.920 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know. And it's just so cool to

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 2>see an actor who believes in it and carries through

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:09.879
<v Speaker 2>and commits for that that right, that that like thing

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:11.680
<v Speaker 2>where like his character is this and he's going to

0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 2>do things that you may not understand and just because

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.279
<v Speaker 2>you're in a scene together doesn't mean you're gonna know

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:19.080
<v Speaker 2>what he's doing. And I just love that, Like.

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:21.760
<v Speaker 1>It's just seeing, like to look at other actors' choices.

0:43:22.000 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, I was just so moved and so like

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:27.839
<v Speaker 2>I was really honored, Like Wow, this is a truth.

0:43:27.920 --> 0:43:30.080
<v Speaker 2>This is the truth. This is like, you know, I'm

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.839
<v Speaker 2>not sure about like the method acting that people talk about,

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 2>whether they're in like character the whole day and that's

0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 2>super weird. I've seen that too, and that's really weird.

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 2>But for somebody like you know Patrick, who's just a

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 2>master and can do everything, Like he can sing, he

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.560
<v Speaker 2>can dance, he's like a Broadway musical theater person. But

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 2>he's also this like incredible like dramatic actor. It's just

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just powerful. So I just love watching people's process.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 1>That's that's what motivates you. I love that is there

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>part of your story that you think there's still so

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>much more to explore.

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just want to be like one of the

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I would really love to be like an old lady

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:15.280
<v Speaker 2>murder mystery lady, Like I want to be like Angela

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Lansbury like a murder She wrote, I love an old

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:21.880
<v Speaker 2>lady crime solver. Oh yeah, like that's my favorite, like

0:44:21.880 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 2>a Helen Mirren in Prime Suspect, Like I love like

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 2>a British crime show, So.

0:44:27.000 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>That you could think that that's for you in the future.

0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to be like an old lady crime solver.

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 2>That's to me so fun and so cool when like,

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.239
<v Speaker 2>because an old lady's going to know exactly what's going on.

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, she's seen it all.

0:44:39.440 --> 0:44:41.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so she's gonna she's gonna be like the best

0:44:41.920 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 2>crime solver. So for me, that's like, yeah, old lady sleuth,

0:44:45.520 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 2>old lady like detective. That's the best.

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 1>It really is. I did not expect that, Yeah, but

0:44:52.440 --> 0:44:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I kind of like it. Yeah you need a hat,

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 1>you need a.

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Hat, you need like afternoon tea. You need like a

0:44:57.680 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 2>little Maltese dog. Yeah, you know, some she can work out.

0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 2>She can work it out. She would be really good.

0:45:03.800 --> 0:45:07.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she could have extensions, okay, and she could be

0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 2>a Maltese. But yeah, I love crime shows. So I

0:45:11.640 --> 0:45:14.440
<v Speaker 2>work on a really amazing crime show called Will Trent.

0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 2>So exciting and so crazy, so I love I love

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the genre of it. So you know, for me, it's

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:24.640
<v Speaker 2>a special Dirney to keep on doing. Like I got

0:45:24.680 --> 0:45:26.160
<v Speaker 2>to do a Law and Order once and it was

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 2>so exciting, you know, to just be like there, you know,

0:45:30.400 --> 0:45:32.960
<v Speaker 2>in that girl Lushka and like to do sees with her,

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and like I was just so enthralled with it all.

0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 1>It is fascinating and it's going on right now, like

0:45:39.840 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 1>people are out there doing that right now. Yes, while

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>we're talking.

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I love it so cool.

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>It has been so much fun to talk to.

0:45:46.200 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>You and thank you.

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>Visit me. I've loved it all.

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:51.080
<v Speaker 2>And Dottie fell asleep.

0:45:51.400 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we put her to sleep. But before I let

0:45:53.520 --> 0:45:56.680
<v Speaker 1>you go, Margaret Choe, what was your last I choose

0:45:56.719 --> 0:45:57.240
<v Speaker 1>me moment?

0:45:57.800 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 2>My last I choose me moment? I think was put

0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:02.239
<v Speaker 2>on this slipstick because I know it's unflattering, but I

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 2>like it.

0:46:02.880 --> 0:46:03.919
<v Speaker 1>What is it?

0:46:03.920 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a bone, it's a bone.

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>It's of spice.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's spice. It's not spice, but it is like

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 2>a spice. It's like a stone, but it's grate. It's

0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:16.840
<v Speaker 2>ninety s grae. I like it, Thank you.

0:46:17.320 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I opted to go with a brighter one pretty just

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>to pep things. Oh, I like it. So we balance

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:23.640
<v Speaker 1>each other out.

0:46:23.680 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I love that warm and cool.

0:46:25.719 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh. Everybody find Margaret's tour stops that are

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>closest to you, or maybe just take a trip and

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>see her. It's so work them. Go to Margaret show

0:46:34.320 --> 0:46:37.319
<v Speaker 1>dot com and check out the dates because you are

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:41.360
<v Speaker 1>on the road. Yes, goot it, guys, Okay, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, so thank you.