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Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to I Choose Me, the podcast about making choices, the

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Speaker 1: ones that define us, the ones that surprise us, and

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Speaker 1: sometimes the ones that take courage. I am joined by

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Speaker 1: a true force of nature today. A comedian, actor, musician, activist,

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Speaker 1: and someone who has spent decades unapologetically carving her own path.

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Speaker 1: Margaret cho has made us laugh, she's made us think,

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Speaker 1: and she's helped us feel seen, all while staying fiercely

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Speaker 1: herself in an industry that often asks people to be

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Speaker 1: anything but Margaret Choe. I am so happy you're here

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Speaker 1: with me today.

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Speaker 2: Today's dog party. It's a dog party.

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Speaker 1: She's so cute. We have your beautiful Lucia in the house. Baby.

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Speaker 2: She is a good girl. She just when she meets

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Speaker 2: other dogs, she's gotta be like mean for a little bit.

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Speaker 1: That's okay, that's okay, it's dog behavior. Dottie is very

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Speaker 1: excited to meet her. I've been talking her up, Oh

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Speaker 1: good all morning. So look she's she's ready.

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Speaker 2: She's so cute. I love that she's like rubbing her

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Speaker 2: little face on the carpet.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and have her own party over there and

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Speaker 1: Lucia can watch so cute. Oh my gosh, it's great

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Speaker 1: to meet you.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 1: We have been working our booties off since the late eighties.

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Speaker 1: That's right alongside one another. That's right different arenas, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and so I feel like we are I don't know,

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Speaker 1: there's something incredible about both of us that we're here,

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Speaker 1: we're still here. I love it.

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Speaker 2: It's good. It's good, I mean, and I enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just different, like we watched like show business

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Speaker 2: change so much. Yeah, you know, and I enjoy it

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Speaker 2: right now. I think it's really fun. I think it's

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Speaker 2: really different. I couldn't even imagined what it, you know,

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Speaker 2: would be calm, but it's very it's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, no, no part of me could have

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Speaker 1: imagined social media.

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Speaker 2: Or the internet, like the Internet in general, I.

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Speaker 1: Know, just so why the world at your fingertips? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's everyone knows everyone. I love it. I know. It's

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Speaker 1: really very connecting, yeah, and unifying and in the best

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Speaker 1: all the best ways. But I love it. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of gonna be rough, yes, But you've had so many

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Speaker 1: chapters in this long career that you've had multiple decade

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Speaker 1: career you've been obviously comedian, an actor, a musician, and activist.

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Speaker 1: Which of those versions of Margaret do you think is

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Speaker 1: the truest.

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Speaker 2: Oh, comedian. It's the one thing that I do the most.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's the one thing that I have to

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Speaker 2: do because you get if you don't do it for

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Speaker 2: a long time, you get really unfamiliar with it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like to be a muscle.

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Speaker 2: You have to seah, it's a muscle. It's just like

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Speaker 2: you really have to stay fit. So you have to

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Speaker 2: do it as much as you can. So you'll you'll

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Speaker 2: see comedians like I have to have to work out

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Speaker 2: every week.

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Speaker 1: You'll go and like work stuff out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you do that. So Yeah, the comedy Store mostly.

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Speaker 1: That's a good night if you just happened to be

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Speaker 1: at the comedy Store and you stroll in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's but it's everybody's good. Everybody. You know, you'll

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Speaker 2: see everybody from like I usually do shows there with

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Speaker 2: like Jay Leno or Bilberr. You know the these like

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Speaker 2: everybody like Ali Wong or Whitney Cummings or you know,

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Speaker 2: the people that are really really famous and that do

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Speaker 2: this don't do it for a long long time. People

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Speaker 2: like our Cineo hall. You know, you know it's like

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Speaker 2: it's it's important because we have to keep doing it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you don't use it, you'll lose it, yes.

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Speaker 2: And quickly. So I I do it a little bit

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Speaker 2: less than those guys because I live far. I feel

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Speaker 2: like I live far. I lived by you. I'm actually

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Speaker 2: bright here. Okay, it's actually as city. Yeah, so it's

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Speaker 2: actually far to go into Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I understand. Yeah, and you don't really want to.

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Speaker 2: It feels like a real like it's you know, if

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Speaker 2: I lived in the Hollywood Hills, I think I would

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Speaker 2: those guys do you know they live right down the street.

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Speaker 2: So I have to commute a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to make an effort, like take a flight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is almost like that, go to the airport.

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Speaker 1: You've had ten stand up? Am I correct on that? Ten?

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Speaker 1: Live just huge tours or.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so about that, probably more, But I

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Speaker 2: don't know. It's all one long, continuous tour in my mind,

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Speaker 2: just one long thing, I.

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Speaker 1: Think, one long career. Yeah, doing what you love, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is incredible. It's good, it's incredible. You've also spent

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Speaker 1: decades speaking your mind, even when it hasn't been easy,

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Speaker 1: and even when it hasn't been popular. You were outspoken.

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Speaker 1: I love that about you. Do you think that comes

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Speaker 2: Well, it was my upbringing because when I was a

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Speaker 2: really little kid, my parents owned a gay bookstore and.

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Speaker 1: The the that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. All the people that worked for in San Francisco

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Speaker 2: and San Francisco, all the people that worked for them

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Speaker 2: were early early followers of Harvey Milk, who was the

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Speaker 2: first openly gay elected official in the in existence. So

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Speaker 2: gay politics have always been a part of my life,

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Speaker 2: you know, since I was a little little kid. So

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Speaker 2: I think, you know, being from that, it's part of

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Speaker 2: my destiny. It's like what I was always meant to do,

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Speaker 2: you know. So you know, it went from you know,

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Speaker 2: equality for gay people, which is really really important. So

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Speaker 2: you know, the trajectory of it is, I've I've been

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Speaker 2: able to watch the queer community really rise in power politically,

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Speaker 2: and so it's just been a part of my life.

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Speaker 2: But yet I think it starts from my childhood from

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Speaker 1: That's so interesting that you had that kind of community

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Speaker 1: of people didn't know anything about at that time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or we're afraid of right.

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Speaker 2: It sort of started to rise in the eighties, Like

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Speaker 2: it was really actually in the seventies when people recognizing

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Speaker 2: that there was this mysterious disease that was seemingly killing

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Speaker 2: then throughout the eighties then we really started to see

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Speaker 2: all hags, like she was the Hag of hags, and

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Speaker 2: she was trying to trying to make sense of all

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Speaker 3: Maybe a conversation, yeah, to support people with AIDS, support

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Speaker 2: Had a lot to do with the acceptance her and

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Speaker 2: I think Princess Diana who was holding AIDS patients, like

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Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, both of them in conjunction with

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Speaker 2: that that was Yeah, So that all sort of developed

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Speaker 2: lot of homophobia still very much.

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Speaker 1: We've come so far, Yeah, we still have so far

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Speaker 1: to go. Yes, I don't know. I feel optimistic because

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Speaker 1: I have a very strong community of gay friends. My

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Speaker 1: what it is. There's a realness there. There's like a

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, what's this when you have a connection and you

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Speaker 1: don't let it go? Like a rooted and solid friendships

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Speaker 1: made out of substance. Yes, you know, Yes, And I

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Speaker 1: just I've always been an advocate and like just surround myself.

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Speaker 1: And also they're the most fun people. Hello. Yeah, Like

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So there there's like an artistic nature to the community.

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Speaker 2: There's I mean, there's so much. But I think that

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Speaker 2: that's usually what it is. Is they're attracted to female strength,

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Speaker 2: They're attracted to female beauty, they're attracted to female intelligence.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's all these qualities that make for a

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Speaker 2: good hag. But I think it's a very I think

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Speaker 2: I've always been connected to gay men and I'm gay myself.

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Speaker 2: So that's part of it too, But I have an

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Speaker 1: Can you define hag for hag? Is it can sound bad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's not a bad it's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: It's it is it is a woman who hangs out

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Speaker 1: He just loves surrounding herself with gay men.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and who is often chosen by the gay man

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Speaker 2: to be like you know, and that's like Madonna. Madonna

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Speaker 2: is the ultimate hag. You know, there's nobody more beautiful,

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Speaker 2: nobody more cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait your Madonna layout on Instagram that

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Speaker 1: you recreated her life?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Oh yeah, I did her a healthy photo shoot.

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Speaker 2: It was very fun. I'm so excited about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my friend put that together. He's a gay man, and

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Speaker 2: it was his idea and he did the photographs. He

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Speaker 2: like spot on as really incredible because gay men often

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Speaker 2: And so it was really really special.

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Speaker 1: I love that characteristic in anybody, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: I love better and it gave attention to detail because

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Speaker 2: It's powerful.

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Speaker 1: Well, the one thing that was different about your picture

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Speaker 1: of Donna's is you have this incredible body.

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Speaker 2: Art all over you.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, and I am mesmerized. Like all they want

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Speaker 1: to do is say what why do you have that

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Speaker 1: tattoo right there? And what does that one mean to?

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Speaker 1: We could talk for hours because yeah, just full body.

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Speaker 2: I'm full body. They're like they don't have meaning as

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Speaker 2: much as the meaning is really in the tattooer. Every

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, Okay. You have helped so many people through

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I am so inspired by Margaret and her confidence.

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Speaker 4: Amy and TJ podcast, where we are doing the exact

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Speaker 1: You have a new tour.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sooligarchy, it's like that. It's like oligarchy says we know,

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Speaker 2: That's your jokes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, let's let's join my country for the

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's like there are people that you

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I feel so invigorated by performing

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Speaker 1: I heard you say that when something's bombing and you

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Speaker 2: So bad, Like I'm my philosophy is like if you

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Speaker 2: And that's really not a good attitude to have. But

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Speaker 2: Well, it's only gotten to a level now where it

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Speaker 2: stay with me all night, and they you know, put

436
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: me in my car at the end of the night.

437
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 2: But I was like, this is just over something that

438
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: is so stupid. It's not even like I don't even

439
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: know why she was so angry about it, but it

440
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: was like her her identity had been threatened, you know,

441
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: because I was talking about Donald Trump and talking about

442
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 2: mega and my feelings about it. Just the fact that

443
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: I was talking about it made her want to kill me.

444
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: And she had said that she was a gun owner.

445
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: She had said that she had a gun and she

446
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 2: could she could do that at any time, and that

447
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: it was going to happen. And so it was like,

448
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 2: you go, well, the reality of gun violence is really terrifying,

449
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: because that's the true thing. But I was making a

450
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 2: joke that wasn't even it could be a bipartisan joke

451
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: because it was about Trump having diarrhea, which he legitimately has,

452
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: and that's something that a Republican knows it's true.

453
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 1: How do you know he has diarrhea?

454
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: Well, I think that all of the audio captured from

455
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 2: the Oval Office, the amount of like wet farts that

456
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: you've heard that's been captured by you know, CNN or

457
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 2: even but any out any news outlet, would be happy

458
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: to provide you with any number. It's got to be

459
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: like outtakes, like a real yea of all far and

460
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: people holding their nose. It's like it's such a to me,

461
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: it's like totally a bipartisan issue, Like that's not even

462
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 2: I think Trump himself would admit to having.

463
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 1: Funny no matter who has that.

464
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 2: It's funny no matter who has them, and it's not

465
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: even really a political statement. But this woman felt like

466
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: it threatened her so much that she had to kill.

467
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 1: Me over a fart joke.

468
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really haying. But it's like if I have

469
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: to die for that, I think that's I mean, I

470
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 2: guess that's all right. I don't know, like I think

471
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 2: it's really I think it's really sad, Becau because you

472
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: used there used to be Republicans and Democrats used to

473
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: be able to talk to each other like there used

474
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 2: to be debates. There used to be a kind of

475
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,439
Speaker 2: cordial nature across the aisle that you know, we agree

476
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: to disagree, agreed to disagree, and just move on to

477
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 2: the next thing because we just want what's best for

478
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: the American people and that's all we want. And now

479
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: it's become something different. So yeah, it's very strange. But yeah,

480
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: that's that's what I'm still doing comedy for.

481
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: I hope you don't have an encounter with anyone like that.

482
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: I hope not. I hope not. It's not fun, but

483
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: it's also the reality of putting yourself out there, putting

484
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: yourself out there in the reality that there are a

485
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: lot of guns out there, which to me is really

486
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: I'm really scared about that. You know, guns in general, Yeah,

487
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: guns are final. Yeah, you know, I just don't want

488
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to have to be a

489
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 2: part of that. I really am scared of maths to

490
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 2: so I'm scared of the amount of guns that are

491
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 2: out there.

492
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: Scared of mass shootings.

493
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

494
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've developed like a fear of going to the

495
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: grocery store, yeah, going to the movies.

496
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're not safe anywhere, you know, because it's

497
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: like our lives are just you know, there were I

498
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: think something like eight mass shootings in America on fourth

499
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 2: of July, and they don't cover it in the news.

500
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: They don't what, they didn't even mention those.

501
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't cover it in the news because it's

502
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: such a daily occurrence that it's almost like not newsworthy anymore.

503
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: Some people are scared. Some people are like, oh, when

504
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 1: it's your time, it's your time.

505
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 2: I don't, but I don't. I think it's so unnatural,

506
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 2: like it shouldn't be our time. Like it's like there's

507
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: so many other things that are going.

508
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: To kill you, you.

509
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Know, like you there's so many, so many things that

510
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 2: but guns are just something that you could it could preventable.

511
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on to something. You are playing a why

512
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: character in second season now of Disney Plus show called

513
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: Percy Jackson. Oh Yes, and the Olympics, and you play

514
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: a character called Wasp. I love it. Yes, you have

515
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: one eye or tooth.

516
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: We share an ee me and Sander Bernhard and Christian

517
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: Shawl share one eyeball and we pop it between. It's

518
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: it's such a fabulous, fantastical show. You know, I love

519
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: this rise of like fantasy. You know, we have so

520
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 2: much of this, you know, of course of like House

521
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: of the Dragon and Game of Thrones and now you

522
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: know Percy Jackson, which is so tremendous, and so it's

523
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 2: a beautiful. It's a beautiful world that they've created. And

524
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 2: the books are so people are such huge fans. So

525
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: we're from the books and yeah, we all share one eye.

526
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,199
Speaker 1: Okay, it's really fun. It sounds fun. I've never seen it.

527
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: I've got to check it out because I like the movie. Yes,

528
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: and so now there's a series.

529
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and the kids are so they're just beautiful and

530
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: they are it's just a very like exciting show. So

531
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: I love that it's so successful, and you know, there's

532
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 2: such a world around it, and there's such a fandom

533
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: that are just so excited about it.

534
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you said Sandra Bernhardt. Yes, did the kids

535
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: know who's among them the queens of.

536
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: I mean I think they've been told. But of course,

537
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 2: I mean Sandra, I was always freaking out about Sandra

538
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: is my friend and I'm a Sandra Bernhardt ologist, So

539
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: she gets her ear talked off because I'm always asking

540
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 2: her a million questions about her career and her life.

541
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: You know, she's just, to me, just the pinnacle of cool.

542
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a cool lady. That is definitely for sure.

543
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 5: Welcome to the Orange Doesn't Fall Far the podcast where

544
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: Reality TV meets real life. I'm Tamra, Judge.

545
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: And I'm Sophia.

546
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 5: Each week we're spilling the tea on pop culture, relationships, motherhood, dating, drama,

547
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 5: and what it's really like growing up in the middle

548
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 5: of reality TV chaos.

549
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: One of us lived it.

550
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 5: One of us survived it. Listen to the Orange Doesn't

551
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 5: Fall Far. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, and

552
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 5: wherever you get your podcast.

553
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: You've lived in the world of fame for a long

554
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: time and it, you know, it has not always great.

555
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: What do you think do you think if you were

556
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: to do it over, would you choose fame again?

557
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: Well, I live in a very low level of it,

558
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 2: so you know. And also, comedians are like the work

559
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: courses of the entertainment industry. So nobody's that excited when

560
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: they see a comic. I mean not really. They're like

561
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: kind of cool. But also, I'm so non descript. There's

562
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: something about me. I never get recognized. It never it's

563
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: never an issue like I never had to you know, but.

564
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: You've had a lot of different iterations like your style,

565
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: and you've reinvented your look so many times.

566
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: But nobody's ever I've never felt like my privacy has

567
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: been invaded. I have a couple of friends who are

568
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: like super who when we went out, they would have

569
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: to wear a full like disguise because they just could

570
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 2: not be seen in public or would just never be

571
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: able to do anything, you know, And I find that

572
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: really suffocating and it was really hard for them. So

573
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 2: I've never approached that level. It might be fun to

574
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: do it, I don't know, it might be fun to

575
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: experience it, but I've never had that experience.

576
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: But there's still like, do you think that the pros

577
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: outweigh that.

578
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: Cons Yes, yes, yes for you.

579
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: I think your friends that have it on a different

580
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: level would say that.

581
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 2: I think so because it's like the I think the

582
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 2: benefit of being able to really like sort of stretch

583
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: out as an artist, you know, you know, they're like

584
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 2: really great actors, so that they've been able to do

585
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: so many things because of their fame too, because of

586
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: their notoriety. It's been very helpful. But then also it's

587
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: painful when it fades and then they're like what do I?

588
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: Who am I without that? That's really hard?

589
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I reach that point just as

590
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: a human when I was fifty, Like you're fifty seven,

591
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm fifty four, But you reached that point. What was

592
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: it like for you? Because I can tell you what

593
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: it was like for me, but like, what was it

594
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: like for you as you entered your fifties and that

595
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: sort of new era of your life?

596
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: Well? I think for me, I mean, it was really

597
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: it was great not to have a period. I love menopause,

598
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: Like it was great not to bleed Like that was

599
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: so awesome.

600
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: I know, because it's torturous. Yes, we've endored it long enough.

601
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: For so long, and it was really physically like like

602
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: menopause for me was physically really easy because I got

603
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: into hormone replacements therapy super early and so I found

604
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: the right combination of things that I needed and worked

605
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: with that easily. Yeah, so that it was easy. But yeah,

606
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: like because I was never an angeneu, I've never been

607
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: like a pretty girl. I've never been like sort of

608
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: held up to any kind of beauty standard. So I've

609
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: always felt like kind of the same all the way,

610
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: and there's some ease to that because when you're old

611
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: then it doesn't really matter. He just kind of like

612
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 2: it's like you.

613
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: People are more accepting.

614
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: People are totally accepting because I don't have a legendary

615
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: beauty that faded, like there was nothing that sort of

616
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: set me apart that way. I was always funny, So

617
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 2: that was to me, like my strength or my beauty

618
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: was in the fact that I was funny, not in

619
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: anything else. So it was very easy to age.

620
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Speaker 1: What about the time for the show All American Girl,

621
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: they asked you to lose weight?

622
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, well they forced me. It wasn't an ass

623
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: It was like, you have to lose weight or else

624
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: we're not going to be able to do the show.

625
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 1: Were you overweight? It wasn't something that I saw as

626
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: an issue.

627
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: No, But for television I was. I mean I wasn't

628
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: a physically I didn't feel that physically large. But for television,

629
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: I mean, in nineteen ninety.

630
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Speaker 1: Four, they weren't concerned about your health.

631
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: No, but I was like a book fifty one hundred

632
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: and fifty pounds. That's like monstrous in TV, you know,

633
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that is like to be one hundred and

634
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 2: fifty pounds on television in the nineties for a woman

635
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: was like, not, that's not happening, like never seen before, right,

636
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean I think, well, for maybe Rosanne could have

637
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: gotten away with it, but she was like she was

638
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: so castigated for her body, but she was maybe one

639
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: sixty you know, like she was not that large. But

640
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 2: there was such a around the nineties and around women's bodies.

641
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: Then there was such a yeah stereotype that you had

642
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: to be really really.

643
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: Think that was the heroin chic yeah era.

644
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and even even like it went outside of like

645
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: culture and fashion sort for me the world, and then

646
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: I think in a lot of ways it got worse

647
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: and like y t U K and the early part

648
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: of the two thousands, you know where we saw a

649
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: real like just a need to control women's bodies, but

650
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: shaming you know, people's bodies. And you know when they

651
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: were saying like Jessica Simpson was like overweight and she

652
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: was not she at all.

653
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: Maybe she was just bloated that day, like her.

654
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: Bodies do thing, but she looked great. And it's just

655
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: when you look back at like how we shamed women

656
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: so much for just having bodies that I'm like shocked

657
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 2: by all of that. But yeah, for me, it was

658
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: the same. You know that there was so much a

659
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: scrutiny put on us, but also because we were the

660
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: first Asian American family on television, so and there was

661
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: a stereotype about Asian American women that were not Asian

662
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 2: American women, but Asian women in general, that were like

663
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: petite and like you know, delicate, and I was not.

664
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: So that was very difficult. So yeah, I lost a

665
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: lot of weight in a very short period of time,

666
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 2: and I think I never quite got over it. I

667
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: think it gave me a very legitimate eating disorder, which

668
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 2: I still kind of struggle with. Like when you have

669
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 2: that in your history, you know that you're yeah, but

670
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: you're told to be too fat to exist, then you're

671
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: it's really shattering.

672
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: So and it sticks with you.

673
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sticks with you your whole life.

674
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: How do you manage it? Now?

675
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: I think now I'm so like I'm just over it,

676
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 2: Like I don't care, I don't care, I don't care.

677
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: But it also like and also now I'm at a

678
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: weight that I consider safe, You're healthiest, healthy, and also manageable,

679
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: like because I'm not dieting to get to this weight,

680
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: I don't do anything. Like it's kind of like for me,

681
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: it's it's just freedom. But it's also a kind of

682
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: maturity that you get to your like, oh I don't

683
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: care anymore. It doesn't really make a difference.

684
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: So you think about longevity now at your age, and

685
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: like you alter your diets and your exercise and like

686
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: how you take care of yourself.

687
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm mostly concerned with dementia, like you're mostly concerned.

688
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: About like brain health.

689
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, brain health, and like I'm like, cognitive decline is

690
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: my biggest fear, so you know, and then in order

691
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: to stave off that, you have to have a good diet,

692
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: you have to have exercise, you have to move in order.

693
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: It's not just one part of the body, you know,

694
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: it's like everything works together. But yeah, that's what keeps me.

695
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Like I play music and I'm a multi instrumentalist, so

696
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: I play a lot of different instruments just to keep

697
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: my brain kind of functioning and learning because that's where

698
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: I get really nervous.

699
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Same, It's something we're talking about more and more now.

700
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: I mean, first we're talking about cardiac health. Now we're

701
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: talking about brain health, which I'm the Yeah, I'm definitely

702
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: on your same page about that. Because you want to

703
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: be able to remember things. I think I need your

704
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: memory to be a comedian.

705
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: Right, So it's very important, Like, yeah.

706
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: You don't want to lose your just your grasp.

707
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: On things, right. And also you want to be able

708
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: to still be adaptable and still be able to Like

709
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: what's so great about youth is that you like adaptable

710
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: to you able to take on new ideas and understand

711
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: things from other perspectives and you're not so rigid. And

712
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: so I want to keep my mind youthful.

713
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: It's so important. What do you think it is that

714
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: keeps you grounded in life?

715
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: Well, my animals, so I have to, like, you know,

716
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 2: when you have cats, it's like you you're at their

717
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: beck and call twenty more seven. So I have to

718
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 2: make sure that they're doing okay. I have to have

719
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: to groom them a lot. I do clean a lot

720
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: of ears. I cut about seventy two nails a week

721
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: because I have, you know, four animals, So I have

722
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: to cut all their nails a little bit, just a

723
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 2: little bit, because I don't want to have a big deal,

724
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 2: So I just cut them a little bit. I do

725
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: all the stuff. Oh my god, I love you.

726
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: I cut my dog's hairs too, Yeah, my hairs. I

727
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: cut their hair. I don't want to send them out.

728
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they enjoy that.

729
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: They don't like that. I mean, I don't like I

730
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: had a van come around and they would do the

731
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 2: grooming in the van, but they don't like that either.

732
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 2: So I just do it all myself. And then it's

733
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 2: just a little bit at a time. But it keeps

734
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: you grounded because it's like you're just like.

735
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: You're taking care of something.

736
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: It's like gardening, but with an animal. I garden also

737
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: do a little bit. I mean a lot of my

738
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 2: pants die, but I'm very I like to buy them.

739
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 2: It's really fun to buy.

740
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: Play and they look so pretty when you buy them.

741
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: They're so pretty when you buy them, and they're pretty

742
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: if they last. You know, some cactuses are thriving.

743
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: You're doing you're doing good with Yeah, they're really good

744
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: cactus forever. What is what is something that you've experienced

745
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: in your career? Let was a setback in the moment

746
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: that you now, with this new perspective of age and

747
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: wisdom see differently.

748
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 2: Well, I think like doing my television show All American

749
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: Girl was canceled out after one season, and it was

750
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 2: so devastating, and I realized that if I had continue

751
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 2: with the show, if it had been able to go

752
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: on for years, maybe I would be disinterested now in comedy,

753
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: Like I wouldn't be as good of a comedian because

754
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: because I wasn't wasn't able to succeed as a television star,

755
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: it made me really focused on being a comedian, and

756
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: I worked really hard to get to a place of

757
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 2: like doing it, and I learned to like really be

758
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: obsessed with it and really love it, and I do

759
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: it daily now, So I may not be as interested

760
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,359
Speaker 2: of like all those things. Like I think if I'd

761
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 2: been a success as a television star, I might just

762
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: you know, have you know, huge estate in Santa Barbara

763
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: and never leave. Like I might have a golf tournament

764
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 2: like every year as just one and have like all

765
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: the famous and then that's it. Like I might be

766
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: selling jam you know, giving Megan Markle a run for

767
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: her Jammy money. Like you know, there was like a

768
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: hunger that I have as an artist that I don't

769
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 2: think I would have had if I had been able

770
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: to sort of make that trajectory as a television star.

771
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

772
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: It makes sense. What is it that motivates you now

773
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: more than when you were younger? Like was your motivation

774
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: younger to work to survive?

775
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: Yes, all those things all?

776
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: Or was it for the art?

777
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 2: It is all of those things. It's all like just

778
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: to be better, to be good, to understand who I

779
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: am as a comedian, to understand how to be a

780
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: good actor too. Like acting is just this mystery that

781
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 2: I still like, I can't get my head around, Like

782
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 2: how do people do this? And you know, like it's

783
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: just a miracle thing, like you between those words action

784
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: and cut, you get to be somebody else for those

785
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: like few sacred minutes and like what is that about?

786
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: And I'm still trying to figure out that mystery.

787
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: It's addictive. Yeah, that moment And I always talk about

788
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: that too, because there's so much about the business and

789
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: the industry that I don't enjoy, but it's that moment

790
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: between action and cut. Yeah, that's something magical happens, and

791
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: it's like it just turns something on inside of you.

792
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's this rare thing that nobody in the

793
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: world gets to experience except actors.

794
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: Yes, you know, being outside of your life.

795
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, for this moment, you're not you. You're this person

796
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 2: and that person is that is that person, and we're

797
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: not us, but we're something else and we're creating a

798
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 2: reality so that people can watch and feel something. It's powerful.

799
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: So I still find it such a divine mystery, and

800
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 2: I'm so curious about all of these other people and

801
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: their ways of doing it. So way. I love working

802
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 2: with people who are really into it, you know, actors

803
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: who are really into it that can show me new

804
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: ways of doing this. You know, it's powerful.

805
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: What do you ask them?

806
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: Well, Like, the thing that I was really impressed with

807
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 2: recently is I did a movie with Patrick Wilson. He's great,

808
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: He's such a beautiful actor. And so it's a movie

809
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: about a school shooting and he plays a teacher who

810
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: was shot and I'm like a principal who comes in

811
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to like boss everybody around. I'm like

812
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: the bad guy, and he's like a hero in the school.

813
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 2: But he and I were fighting in scenes and his arm,

814
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: his character's arm is like not working anymore because it

815
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: was shot and he hid it from me. In the scenes,

816
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: so I as a as a person like me, I

817
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 2: didn't even notice that he had that weakness. I didn't

818
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: notice it until we watched it on the big screen

819
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: and I was watching him hiding his arm and I

820
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: was like, that is so interesting because that frailty was

821
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: not perceptible to me in the moment, but on the

822
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: screen it was so profound. And I was asking him.

823
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: I was like, you're hiding your arm that whole time.

824
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, yeah, I was, And I was like

825
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. And it's just so cool to

826
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: see an actor who believes in it and carries through

827
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: and commits for that that right, that that like thing

828
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: where like his character is this and he's going to

829
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: do things that you may not understand and just because

830
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: you're in a scene together doesn't mean you're gonna know

831
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: what he's doing. And I just love that, Like.

832
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 1: It's just seeing, like to look at other actors' choices.

833
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was just so moved and so like

834
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 2: I was really honored, Like Wow, this is a truth.

835
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: This is the truth. This is like, you know, I'm

836
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 2: not sure about like the method acting that people talk about,

837
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 2: whether they're in like character the whole day and that's

838
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: super weird. I've seen that too, and that's really weird.

839
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: But for somebody like you know Patrick, who's just a

840
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: master and can do everything, Like he can sing, he

841
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: can dance, he's like a Broadway musical theater person. But

842
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 2: he's also this like incredible like dramatic actor. It's just

843
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: it's just powerful. So I just love watching people's process.

844
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: That's that's what motivates you. I love that is there

845
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: part of your story that you think there's still so

846
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: much more to explore.

847
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Well, I just want to be like one of the

848
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: I would really love to be like an old lady

849
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 2: murder mystery lady, Like I want to be like Angela

850
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: Lansbury like a murder She wrote, I love an old

851
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: lady crime solver. Oh yeah, like that's my favorite, like

852
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: a Helen Mirren in Prime Suspect, Like I love like

853
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: a British crime show, So.

854
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: That you could think that that's for you in the future.

855
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to be like an old lady crime solver.

856
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 2: That's to me so fun and so cool when like,

857
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 2: because an old lady's going to know exactly what's going on.

858
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's seen it all.

859
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's gonna she's gonna be like the best

860
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: crime solver. So for me, that's like, yeah, old lady sleuth,

861
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 2: old lady like detective. That's the best.

862
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: It really is. I did not expect that, Yeah, but

863
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. Yeah you need a hat,

864
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 1: you need a.

865
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Hat, you need like afternoon tea. You need like a

866
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: little Maltese dog. Yeah, you know, some she can work out.

867
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: She can work it out. She would be really good.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she could have extensions, okay, and she could be

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Speaker 2: a Maltese. But yeah, I love crime shows. So I

870
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Speaker 2: work on a really amazing crime show called Will Trent.

871
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Speaker 2: So exciting and so crazy, so I love I love

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Speaker 2: the genre of it. So you know, for me, it's

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Speaker 2: a special Dirney to keep on doing. Like I got

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Speaker 2: to do a Law and Order once and it was

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Speaker 2: so exciting, you know, to just be like there, you know,

876
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Speaker 2: in that girl Lushka and like to do sees with her,

877
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Speaker 2: and like I was just so enthralled with it all.

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Speaker 1: It is fascinating and it's going on right now, like

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Speaker 1: people are out there doing that right now. Yes, while

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Speaker 1: we're talking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I love it so cool.

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Speaker 1: It has been so much fun to talk to.

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Speaker 2: You and thank you.

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Speaker 1: Visit me. I've loved it all.

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Speaker 2: And Dottie fell asleep.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we put her to sleep. But before I let

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Speaker 1: you go, Margaret Choe, what was your last I choose

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Speaker 1: me moment?

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Speaker 2: My last I choose me moment? I think was put

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Speaker 2: on this slipstick because I know it's unflattering, but I

891
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Speaker 2: like it.

892
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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a bone, it's a bone.

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Speaker 1: It's of spice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's spice. It's not spice, but it is like

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Speaker 2: a spice. It's like a stone, but it's grate. It's

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Speaker 2: ninety s grae. I like it, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I opted to go with a brighter one pretty just

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Speaker 1: to pep things. Oh, I like it. So we balance

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Speaker 1: each other out.

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Speaker 2: I love that warm and cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Everybody find Margaret's tour stops that are

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Speaker 1: closest to you, or maybe just take a trip and

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Speaker 1: see her. It's so work them. Go to Margaret show

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Speaker 1: dot com and check out the dates because you are

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Speaker 1: on the road. Yes, goot it, guys, Okay, love it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, so thank you.