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Speaker 2: You know, sometimes when I talk to people after decades

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Speaker 2: many people have you experienced that do have such a

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know the percentage, but I can tell

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Speaker 3: Just knowing that there's people out there that love you,

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Speaker 4: It's like a gaping hole. It's as if his family

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Speaker 1: From love for good is wrongful conviction with Maggie Freeling

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Speaker 1: today Brian Parnell. On August twenty eighth, nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 1: Konstantinos Bulius, also known as Gus, finished closing up his

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Speaker 1: Despite having multiple alibi witnesses, Brian was arrested for murder

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Speaker 5: That was a shock. I was really in shock, Like,

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Speaker 6: God, you know, this is like, oh man, I still

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Speaker 6: you've ever been accused of something that you know you

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Speaker 1: Brian Parnell was born in Philadelphia on Valentine's Day, nineteen

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Speaker 5: Brian Parnell is a very fun, loving kind of guy.

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Speaker 1: That's how Brian describes himself. He grew up in a large,

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Speaker 5: And I was blessed with very very beautiful parents, not

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Speaker 5: Even though my dad and my mom went through whatever

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Speaker 4: Bryan was always doing something. He had like dogs growing up, reptiles, frogs, fish.

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Speaker 4: He would do his daughter's hair and I never knew

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Speaker 5: You know, whatever you want to do. I want to

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Speaker 5: If nobody else on this planet knows, I know that

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Speaker 7: Brian had an alibi witness. Brian was with his girlfriend

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Speaker 1: This is Mark Howard.

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Speaker 8: I co teach a class informally called Making an x

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Speaker 8: Honery with my childhood friend Marty Tankliffe, who was himself

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Speaker 1: The Making an Exonery program created a partnership with Discovery,

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Speaker 7: Brian did not know the victim. Brian did not know

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Speaker 1: Automated fingerprint identification system. He also compared them to prints

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Speaker 7: It's an approximation. It's humans making judgments based on similarities

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Speaker 1: Fingerprints have to be compared manually by experts. Detective Beam

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Speaker 7: And again, if prints were partial fingerprints, okay, so they

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Speaker 9: And fingerprints have been accepted as evidence in courts for

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Speaker 9: You are first looking at a fragment of the print,

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Speaker 7: It came completely out of nowhere because it was four

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Speaker 1: Detective Beam was determined to close the case. It seems

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Speaker 7: But we're talking about a very weak, partial fingerprint that

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Speaker 7: And I think when he found Brian, it seemed convenient,

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Speaker 1: The prosecutor at trial was first Assistant District Attorney Patrick Carmody.

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Speaker 7: So they suddenly developed with this very common as you

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Speaker 1: Although there was no effort to ever find the second perpetrator.

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Speaker 1: The prosecution had no murder weapon, no witnesses, no motive,

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Speaker 7: The victim's wife thought that the person knew him and

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Speaker 1: In fact, according to police reports and interviews, on the

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Speaker 7: And the lead detective, Kenneth Beam, for some reason, was

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Speaker 1: And Prosecutor Carmody ran with this. He was determined to

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Speaker 10: The DA or whoever he was was, asked me all

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Speaker 1: Now you might be wondering what about Brian's defense and

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Speaker 5: And I said, I want you to talk to my family,

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Speaker 5: He said, I called him, nobody answered the phone. Said

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Speaker 1: They told Brian they were dropping his alibi defense and

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Speaker 1: that meant both alibis, because Brian also had a physical

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Speaker 7: At least a week before the incident and after the incident.

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Speaker 1: Here's Mark again, and.

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Speaker 7: There's no way he would have been able to climb

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Speaker 1: But his defense did not bring up his injury or

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Speaker 5: It hurts, And to be real with you, I said

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Speaker 5: it's a sloppy rail road job. It's blatant. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: In First District Attorney Carmody's closing statement, he said, quote,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank mister Parnell for not wearing gloves

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Speaker 1: that day. He gave us the evidence. The defense can't

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Speaker 7: The fingerprints are what led to Brian being convicted. A

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Speaker 1: After only two hours of deliberation, Brian was convicted of

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Speaker 4: First of all, it was devastation to the entire family.

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Speaker 4: It says if his family has been incarcerated along with him,

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Speaker 4: You know, the person still exists, but you can't have

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Speaker 1: And she says Brian's incarceration deeply affected his children, who

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Speaker 4: They had a hard time grasping in the beginning that

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Speaker 1: It was also hard for their mother to understand that.

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Speaker 4: My mom in the beginning, she engulfed herself with this case,

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Speaker 1: But it also personally hurt Brian's mom because she was

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Speaker 4: So that's where it becomes a double betrayal for my

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Speaker 5: I actually looked at law enforcement officers through the eye

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Speaker 1: While in prison, Brian has enjoyed studying law and assisting

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Speaker 5: Me and my son came up with My oldest son

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Speaker 1: But at fifty years old. Above all, Brian works every

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Speaker 5: I have a whole bunch of beautiful nieces and nephews,

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Speaker 1: Wow, how old your granddaughters?

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Speaker 5: The oldest is five and the youngest is two.

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Speaker 1: After being incarcerated for so long, Brian says, what he's

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't wish this on nobody. It's a nightmare to

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Speaker 1: Brian has filed multiple appeals and they've all been denied.

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Speaker 1: As of two thousand and five, one of Brian's attorneys,

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Speaker 1: Ronald Joseph, was placed on administrative suspension and has not

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Speaker 1: the Pennsylvania Innocence Project, which is seeking additional testing of evidence.

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Speaker 1: This could result in a DNA profile that could then

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Speaker 1: the very thing that finds who actually kills Gus Bulius.

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Speaker 1: For more information on the case, go to Justice for

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Speaker 1: Brian Parnell dot com and follow at Justice for Brian

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Speaker 1: Parnell on Twitter. Next week on Wrongful Conviction with Maggie Freeling,

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Speaker 1: Davonna Enman, and Life after Exoneration, It's a.

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Speaker 11: Lot more to it than just being free, because the

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Speaker 11: being thrown back into a big old ocean and you

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Speaker 11: don't know what's in it or what's there no more.

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