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Speaker 1: gonna come to fight. Let's hear from the great Manny Pacio.

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Speaker 1: Canello sometimes gets compared to you of Lake because he

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Speaker 1: this era of fighters. I don't want to say they're afraid,

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Speaker 1: Do you realize how unique that is?

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Speaker 3: I think that the evidence of being passionate for this

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Speaker 1: Rashad, you've been around this combat game a long time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know in boxing, when you have star power,

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Speaker 2: No. I like it. I like where you're going, But

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Speaker 2: I want to say one thing, you know, going back

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Speaker 1: He wants to have that sort of on his ledger

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Speaker 1: But Manny, the most important question of the interview that

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Speaker 1: I want to hold you. Yeah, you know the next.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, the sultry dulcet tones of the great Many Paciel.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Tell boo boy, we said hi, best

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Speaker 1: I love it sometimes when we touch Great Dan Hill

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Speaker 1: It's supposed to cure hangovers, smooth out your skin, slow

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Speaker 1: So uh, you know, I don't know if we can

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Speaker 2: That are I need that, I need that, bring it,

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Speaker 2: bring it all right.

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Speaker 1: You know, the best kind of snake oil is the

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Speaker 1: Fight's Fear at the Mohi Son gay Guard Musas defending

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Speaker 1: like this gay Guard's thirty six years old. They're talking

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00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,959
Speaker 1: about him on the broadcast, is almost like a living

428
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 1: legend when you look back at the ledger, which is

429
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 1: seeing him fight what upwards of something like fifty seven

430
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: times over a great career across many promotions. Do we

431
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,960
Speaker 1: give his legacy the respect it deserves, considering he went

432
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: out there against a tough guy Insalter and did the business.

433
00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,439
Speaker 1: And he's now eleven and one since twenty fifteen. This

434
00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: is not a you know, once great but now slipping

435
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,959
Speaker 1: fighter who's hanging on against nobody's. He's eleven and one

436
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen, and that includes having won his last

437
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 1: four UFC fights. How impressed are you?

438
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,159
Speaker 2: I'm really impressed. I mean to do it at the

439
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 2: age he's able to do it at, but you know what,

440
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 2: at the level he's able to do it at still.

441
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's had a long career. He's had

442
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,679
Speaker 2: a career where he's fought at heavyweight, he's fought at

443
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 2: light heavyweight, He's really fought all over the upper three

444
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,040
Speaker 2: weight classes, you know, consistently and going back and forth

445
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 2: and just different divisions and different organizations, you know, being champion,

446
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 2: contending for championship belts. And he's still here. You know,

447
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: he still has that great style that ages so well.

448
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: And I think that's what we're saying right now. You know,

449
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: he because he was an athlete who never really used

450
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: those athletic attributes, you know, the quickness and all those

451
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 2: things that all these great athletes are known for. He's

452
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 2: kept it simple with just basic technique, and that basic

453
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: technique has lended him a huge hand as he gets

454
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 2: older and he fights, because now as you get older,

455
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 2: the cerebral part, the mental part, catches up to you

456
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: your physical part, and then now you have a fighter

457
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 2: who is, you know, great basics, really great basics, but

458
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 2: now has a mental capacity to really imply it on

459
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,760
Speaker 2: other levels in all also really know how to take

460
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: the fight out of his opponents. I mean what we're

461
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 2: saying in Musas right now, he can go up and

462
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 2: definitely could test those guys that led headweight, you know,

463
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: the winner of this tournament, and it could be interesting.

464
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's big business for him there should he want

465
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: to do that. Like you mentioned, we got Rumbell Johnson,

466
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 1: we got deem Nemkow, Ryan Bader, etc. But in this fight,

467
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: it was really the perfect let's say, execution of what

468
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 1: you're talking about, a more efficient cerebral style where okay,

469
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: he's thirty six, but he's still got that heavy jab.

470
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: And how about the way he put away Salter. He

471
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: was willing to lose that first round and be haves

472
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 1: back on the ground because Salter was going, you know,

473
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: guns blazing for the takedown relentlessly. But he knew if

474
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: he waited around he could get a weekend Salter who

475
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: was starting to gas out. And once he did, Musas

476
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,720
Speaker 1: just sat down on those stuffed takedowns and really put

477
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: on some vicious ground and pound. When you look back

478
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,199
Speaker 1: on this, we certainly can both agree smart execution and

479
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: win for Musase. Was this the right game plan for Salter,

480
00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: giving his strengths and weaknesses.

481
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 2: I think it was the right game plan. I think

482
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 2: that what Salter, uh, you know, what he did with

483
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: Salter was he knew the Salter was gonna come in

484
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: and try to take a page out of Havato Lavato's

485
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: junior book and really put the prayers pressure on Musasi,

486
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: really make him wrestle, really make him expend some of

487
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,400
Speaker 2: that energy so when he gets back up to his feet,

488
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 2: he's not fighting, striking as effectively as he normally does.

489
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: And and that was going to work. But the problem

490
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: is Musasi was all ready for it. He came in

491
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: there like a like a sponge, ready to absorb all

492
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: of that. And then once he absorbed it, he came

493
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: back with his own game and then show a lick

494
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 2: of tiredness and was able to then you know, start

495
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 2: to you know, sprawl on the takedowns and really put

496
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,200
Speaker 2: up a contestant for all that whole grappling that that

497
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 2: that's that his opponent was trying to do. So I

498
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 2: think that it was a great game plan by him.

499
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 2: It's a great way to really take you know, just

500
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 2: listening to the visual cue, just listening to the visual

501
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 2: of me the audio things that his his ponent was

502
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: talking about. He was talking about being able to really

503
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: just draw out his energy and really pushing the pace

504
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: on him, and he was listening. He said, Okay, we'll see,

505
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: we'll see how much he pushes the pace. But he

506
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 2: knew he was gonna come with that pace and he

507
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 2: built that into the game plan, which is genius. And

508
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: that's what happens when you have fifty seven fights, you

509
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: really try to just understand how the other point is

510
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: going to fight.

511
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, it proved his record to forty eight seven

512
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: and two, and we could certainly talk about what he's

513
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: done in his great history across multiple promotions. He was

514
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 1: a strikeforced light heavyweight champion. To your point from earlier,

515
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,239
Speaker 1: he submitted a great heavyweight in Mark Hunt. But the

516
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 1: recent run that the the eleven and one in the past,

517
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, five years, really five years is incredible. Let

518
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: me dead wrong myself here, Rashad. He went five and

519
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: oh to close his UFC run and those are wins

520
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: by the way over Tallas Lightest Thiago Santos Vitoor belfour,

521
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: you're Ryah Hall in a rematch of a knockout loss

522
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: and Chris Widman. Then he's a big time free agent.

523
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 1: He goes to Bellator and he's five and one in

524
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: Bellatour sense, including wins over a former champion, Carvadol, Rory McDonald,

525
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: Liota machetah Douglas Lima. I mean, this is this is

526
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: pretty damn impressive. I'm one of the media voting members

527
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: of the of the new Belatour MMA rankings, and I've

528
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: I got him number two pound for pound under the

529
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: beltour banner right below AJ McKee, who's just you know,

530
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: torn the roof off the building with what he's done

531
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: recently in the featherweight Grand Prix. We got to really

532
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: give gay Guard his flowers. He's still got it, man,

533
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: He's still one of the best in the world that

534
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: at either weight divisions that he chooses.

535
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know one thing that for me that stands

536
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 2: out when I think about gay Guard and his ability

537
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 2: to continue to rise to the top is the fact that,

538
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,160
Speaker 2: you know, the way that he approaches each and every

539
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: single fight where he's not even like afraid to admit

540
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: when he just had a lack luster fight. You know,

541
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: the most fighters are like, ah, make excuses, all these

542
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 2: excuses he doesn't make excuses. When a fighter doesn't make

543
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 2: excuses and they're able to face themselves whatever deficiencies they had,

544
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: you know in the fight that make people question their ability.

545
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: You know, he's able to face and because he's able

546
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 2: to face it, he's able to get better. He's able

547
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: to learn from it and use it as a growing

548
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: of something to grow with. And a lot of fighters

549
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 2: don't do that. But I think that's one thing that

550
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: makes Musase the way that he is right now.

551
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even in his loan defeat under the belt

552
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: or banner, which was when he ended his first title

553
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: reign with that lost to Raphael Lovado Junior that you mentioned,

554
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean that was a majority decision that could have

555
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: gone either way. So a great career there that's going

556
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 1: to keep going. And Rashad we saw in that video

557
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: Austin Vanderford, the unbeaten top contender of course, mister PVZ,

558
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: but he's making his own name now, throat tat and all.

559
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: He came into the cage. He's still nursing that left

560
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: arm injury, but that's going to be the next matchup.

561
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: You know it's early, of course, but how much of

562
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: a challenge do you think Vanderford is gonna bring to Geguard.

563
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: I think it bring a pretty good challenge. You know,

564
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: he has some pretty good striking and you know he

565
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: hits pretty good, so I think that in the striking

566
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: department it will be a bit tougher. But I think,

567
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: you know, Musase, he sometimes he's a little bit too

568
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 2: relaxed and too and just too flacid sometimes in the

569
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: beginning to fight. And I think if he starts this

570
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 2: fight a little bit more intense than he'd be able

571
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 2: to meet that intensity that's coming the other way with Vanderford.

572
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: But I mean, when you're going against a guy, a

573
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: younger guy who's stepping in there, who's never been there,

574
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: who's never had a chance to fight for the belt,

575
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: they're coming in with that energy, and you have to

576
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: be able to match the energy right out the gate

577
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: and then slowly want you dissipate that energy, then you

578
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: can do the slow melt like Gegar likes to do.

579
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: Rashad, we always speak the truth here on all things MMA,

580
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: and this was a let's speak the truth. This was

581
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: a very strong bellows or card top to bottom, big

582
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: time fireworks, big time you know finishes, but also really

583
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,160
Speaker 1: good matchmaking. And I know all week on CBS Sports HQ,

584
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 1: you had been talking up this bantamweight contender bout, potentially

585
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: a number one contender bout when red Hot Rafian Statts

586
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: went in there against my guy Mago med Mago Medoff, who,

587
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: of course the only man to defeat or to legitimately

588
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: defeat former UFC Bandamweight champion payoder Yan. Of course he

589
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: lost that rematch. Rashad. We knew coming in this was

590
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: going to be the best of two guys going upwards.

591
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: Both could wrestle. I gotta say I was blown away

592
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: that raffie on Stotts was able to neutralize almost anything

593
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 1: malgamed Mega Medov did to try to get the one

594
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: up on him.

595
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 2: You know, for me, Stotts did a really good job

596
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: of just answering the call when it came to grappling.

597
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: You know, when it came to grappling, he never conceded

598
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 2: to any position and he was always scrambling, and that

599
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: was a difference in his fight. His ability to scramble

600
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 2: out of Mega Medoff's you know, takedowns and really just

601
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 2: solidifying a position. He didn't allow it to happen. And

602
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: because he was always able to fight in those little spots,

603
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: it made it a lot harder for Maga Metal to

604
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: really capitalize on his positions. But then furthermore, when he

605
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: got back up to his feet, that's when Stotts really

606
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: was able to land in better shots and really put

607
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 2: pressure on Magamettav, making him feel like he really needed

608
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: to get the fight down. And then it was more

609
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 2: of just the same where Stotts was able to win

610
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: the wrestling exchanges, but it was all captivated by the

611
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: fact that Stotts wasn't afraid to even engage his wrestling.

612
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 2: He trusted and believed in his collegiate wrestling, and he's like, listen,

613
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: you know American rustling versus do das STANDI, you know Sambo,

614
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: you know, that's what it was. And he really went

615
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 2: in there and really displayed a good level of just

616
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: the difference in the two sports with just the ability

617
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: to scramble and contest everything that Maga Metov did.

618
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: Rashad, we don't talk about Ruffian Statts nearly enough to

619
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: what he deserves now. Granted, this was his highest profile

620
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: about to date, and let's give him credit. He leaped

621
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: through the screen, he showed up and he showed out

622
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: like this was This was a big time fight from

623
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: the standpoint of like two technically strong guys with a

624
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: lot at stake, and it was that unique fight where

625
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: there wasn't a ton of striking, but there was a

626
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: lot of adapting and all that. Ruffian Stotts, who's thirty

627
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: two years old, is seventeen and one as a professional

628
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: in Rashad. His only loss was against marab de Villa Scilly,

629
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: who's I know, I butchered his last name, as I

630
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: always do, but it was by spinning back fist ko

631
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: under the roc banner. Four years ago. He has rebounded

632
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: so huge. He's on being in Bellator. Dude, he's looking

633
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: like the real deal, and maybe it took him a

634
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: little longer to put it together than others. But with

635
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: that collegiate amateur background, he also can talk on the mic.

636
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: You know, you say breakout star. That could be a

637
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: loaded thing. But for Bellator's purposes here this guy feels

638
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: like he could be something big.

639
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 2: He really is. I mean the way that he got

640
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: the mic and started speaking afterwards and really selling himself

641
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: on another level. These are the kind of athletes that

642
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 2: you really want a promotion because these are the kind

643
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: of guys that's gonna make people tune in. You know,

644
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: guys that really talk a good game, Guys that really

645
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 2: just had that charismatical effect, but at the same time

646
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: can fight like this, can fight as good as they

647
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: can talk. And that's what we're seeing here. You know,

648
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: we're seeing a guy, you know that that's gonna keep

649
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: getting these opportunities and keep on growing in the sport

650
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: just because of the fact that he has great fighting

651
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: ability and he has great on the mic.

652
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: I love that he was basically like, I'm not gonna

653
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: talk about myself my wrestling ability, and then two seconds

654
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: later he's like, I'm the best wrestler in this division

655
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: and in the world. I mean, it was flamboyant in

656
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: Hilaire is. But you know, to his credit, look, magam

657
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: Medov's tough as nails. I still think you're looking at

658
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: a potential future champion. In Malga Metov's credit, in round

659
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: three men, he just he tried every single trick, sambo

660
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: or not that he had that he learned in the

661
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 1: Smesh factory to try to turn this fight around. I

662
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: didn't think Statts had this level of everything, poise, adaptability,

663
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: all of that this could give him a title shot Rashod.

664
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: Nothing was announced. We know that his own teammate and friend,

665
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: Sergio Pettis is the champion right now, having just beaten

666
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: want Archiletta. But stat said on the microphone, look, buddy, Sergio,

667
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: if we gotta do it, we gotta do it. But

668
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: one thing, denote Rashad. There's been some rumors that if

669
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna go and you're Scott Coker and you're gonna

670
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: go in that Grand Prix direction, which they've had such

671
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: great success at heavyweight, light heavyweight, welterweight and now featherweight,

672
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: maybe we go banham weight. Maybe he doesn't get the

673
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: next title shot. Maybe we look at this division on

674
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: the outside looking in and it might be time to

675
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: pick the bit the eight best names and go after it.

676
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: Is it time for one thirty five for the belt

677
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: or Grand Prix?

678
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: I think so. I think it'd be a good way

679
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: to kind of just you know, reintroduce these guys to

680
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: the world. And I think it'd be a great highlighting,

681
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: you know, for the division. You have guys like Stots

682
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 2: who are just these stars who are just kind of caught,

683
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: you know, undiscovered, and really you know, with an opportunity

684
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: like he had against Maga Meta, he really shines on

685
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: that level. So there's other diamonds in the rough, and

686
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: I think that Bellatore is really finding that. You know,

687
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: these guys are just competing at another level, and not

688
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: for nothing. I believe the tournament really helps these guys,

689
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, get to another level when it comes to

690
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: learning how to compete under pressure and really just kind

691
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: of you know, getting their minds around, you know, making

692
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: a fight just to fight. Sometimes in a whole fight game,

693
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: we get our minds around who we gotta fight, and

694
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: you know what my ranking is and all this. When

695
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: I started fighting, I fought everybody, you know, I was

696
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: fighting tournaments and it really it really didn't matter. It

697
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 2: was just a fight until you know, I was champion,

698
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: until I was the best. And that's what fighting has

699
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: to be, I think has to be, you know, not

700
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: so much of a cerebral process sometime, you know, as

701
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: far as making and deciding we're gonna fight. If you're

702
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 2: gonna fight, fight everybody in the division. And I like

703
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: these tournaments for that reason because it's proven time and

704
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: time again when these guys do this tournament, it just

705
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: improves the whole entire weight class, not even just the

706
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: whole entire weight class, just raises another level.

707
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: I think there's two things from Belator standpoint that they

708
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: can accomplish by doing these Grand Prix. One is what

709
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: I thought the heavyweight tournament was. It was more about

710
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: show and flash. Rashad we had, we had Chubby Rampage,

711
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: we had chelse Son, and we had Fador. You know,

712
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: it was more about like, let's just make some fun

713
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: matchups to see what happens. But some of the other

714
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: divisions in which they've done these tournaments, I think the

715
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: you know, the best thing that you can say about

716
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: yourself is we're doing this tournament to show the world

717
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: that the best fighters at this weight class aren't all

718
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: in the UFC. I think they accomplished that at featherweight. Certainly,

719
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: Walt your weight when you had Lima and Roy McDonald

720
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: and others. You know, they had that chance. Light havevyweight

721
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: right now with Nemkof and Rumble and Bader, they've got

722
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: that chance. Me tell you who could could be in

723
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: a Bellator Bannon Waite World Grand Prix should they go

724
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: in this direction. Champion Sergio Pettis, former champion won Archiletta

725
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: former champion Darien Caldwell. Now you've got stats. You've got

726
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: Patchi Mix who was on fire and lost that vacant

727
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: title bout. You've got James Gallaher. You've got Mago med

728
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: Mago Medoff who could be a future champion. You've got

729
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 1: Leandro Higo and Rashad along with guys like Mattuse Mattos

730
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: and Eric Perez. How about two more names potentially for you.

731
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: How about your boy Horror Gucci, Right, how about that guy?

732
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: How about you get that guy on the on the phone,

733
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: and how about this is me talking nut Scott Coker.

734
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: How about Patricio pittbull Frede who said he can make

735
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: one thirty five and he wants to be the first

736
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: Bellator three division champion for shod. There's not only depth

737
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: and star power there, but you could almost tell the world. Okay,

738
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: we don't have yan or Sterling or Sanhagen, but we

739
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: got an argument for best in the world at one

740
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: thirty five. And that's what you want to do with

741
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: these tournaments.

742
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, absolutely, I think you know these tournaments work,

743
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: and you know seeing Michael Chandler in the Splash that

744
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: he was able to make in a UFC. He's one

745
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 2: of these tournament fighters, been in a couple of belator

746
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: tournaments and it shows that. You know, it really was

747
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: a proven ground for him to become the fighter that

748
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: he is today. You know, it really was one of

749
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: those things that just tested his grit, tested his mindset,

750
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: tested his ability, and tested his fighting capacity to be

751
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 2: able to compete on the stage UFC. Jump right in

752
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: the UFC and then make that impact right away. You know,

753
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: these guys are competing in this tournament. You know, it's

754
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: non forgiving. There's there's really no excuses in there. You're

755
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: out there and as you know, killer be killed, and

756
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: these guys are going out there and rising to the level.

757
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: And when you put the champion on the shame the

758
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: same plan as you do everybody else, and you're like, Okay,

759
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 2: the belt's gonna keep going throughout the tournament. It's up

760
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: to you champion to hold it. That puts a pressure

761
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 2: on the champion that you don't normally see and it's

762
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: good because it makes everybody else fight as so much

763
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: to a higher level.

764
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: I think I just jazzed myself up. I I got

765
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: to clean up on Aisle Pac Studio over here. I'm

766
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: fired up, Scott Coker, make this tournament right now. I'm

767
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: sure you probably are doing that. I don't think you

768
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: care about my two cents, but let's do this thing.

769
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: This should be fun. Rashade lets Keith. The MMA flowing

770
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: from the weekend Friday night was PFL seven and the

771
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: kickoff of the twenty twenty one playoffs from the hard

772
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: Rock in Seminole, Florida, that right down the street from yourself,

773
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: and what we got in the main event, Rashad was

774
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: you could argue the best matchup PFL could have made

775
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: on paper to start the season right. It was the

776
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: one I wanted to see in the final because of

777
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: some shoddy judging in that Gleban Tiso Tibo fight last

778
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: time around. We got it in the semi finals. Either way,

779
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: we got it. Ray Cooper the Third, you're defending PFL

780
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: welterweight tournament champion from back in twenty nineteen, went in

781
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: there against Rory McDonald and Rashad. This was an outcome

782
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,720
Speaker 1: that I didn't necessarily see coming. A wide unanimous decision

783
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: win for Ray Cooper the Third. He had the advantage

784
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: on the feet, but maybe more surprisingly, he held a

785
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: dominant advantage on the ground. How big of a win

786
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: is this for a guy who's trying to knock on

787
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: that door and show the world that you know, I'm coming.

788
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: I'm one of the bigger names here that you know

789
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: in the future at Walter.

790
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 2: With It's huge. And unless you live in Hawaii, you're

791
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: not really well aware of the Coopers and their family

792
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: and their story behind it. But the Coopers are, you know,

793
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: a great story from Hawaii. You know, they have a

794
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: little place they train and they have like an invite only,

795
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: but you know, it's a family, a fighting family, and

796
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: they have a you know, high prestige and high honor

797
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: with them in Hawaii. So these guys fight with that mindset,

798
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: you know, even though they're not in Hawaii, they bring

799
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: that every single place they go with their mindset and

800
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 2: fighting at that level. But I mean it's a great

801
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: fight for him. He showed that he has great striking,

802
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 2: great rustling, and he did such a good job of

803
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: really mixing it up, landing those big shots, getting Rory

804
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: to exchange with him. And then once Roy was exchanging

805
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: with them, whoop right underneath for the tape down textbook,

806
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, wrestling one on one, but very effective, and

807
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: especially against a guy like Rory McDonald who's pretty much

808
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: seen everything and really has a great ob and flow

809
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 2: of trying to understand what his opponent's going to do.

810
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: So to get a guy like Rory and to dominate

811
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: the way that he did on the feet as well

812
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: on the ground, I mean, it just shows that this

813
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: guy has another level in which he's yet to hit.

814
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really hard to downgrade this win at

815
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: all because at thirty two, Rory still in his physical prime.

816
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: We saw him destroy Curtis Millinder to open this tournament

817
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: in his PFL debut, and like I mentioned that Gleason

818
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Tebel fight, Okay, we got some shoddy scoring, but you know,

819
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: I thought Rory made the adjustments and had sort of

820
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: clearly won that and he just wasn't in this fight

821
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: at all. And you saw the pre fight sort of

822
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: video packages in which Rory said, look, I you know,

823
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: maybe I won't have a complete advantage in striking, it

824
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: would be even, but on the ground I'm a much

825
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: better wrestler and that's going to be my game plan

826
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 1: for shod. He didn't hide it was it was deliberate.

827
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: In fact, I thought Kenny Flourian pointed it out correctly

828
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: that it was almost too deliberate in what he was

829
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: trying to do. He couldn't get Ray Cooper down, and

830
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: he couldn't keep him there. Cooper was able to reverse positions,

831
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: was able to get top position, and that was just

832
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: a heavier striker. I want to ask you a real

833
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: question here. It's real talk time.

834
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: Okay.

835
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: The post UFC run for Rory has had some legitimate

836
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: highs and lows. You know, he beat Lima on that

837
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: five round thriller to win the title. That was a high.

838
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: He had the weird John Fitch fight, the weird Lima rematch,

839
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: the one sided lost in Musaci at middleweight. Was this

840
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: fight more about where Ray Cooper's at or more about

841
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: what Rory is not willing to do anymore, maybe not

842
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: capable of doing anymore on the big stage. Let's be

843
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: honest here.

844
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both. But I

845
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: think it may go into the fact that, you know,

846
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 2: Rory may not be willing to do what he once

847
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: did before. I mean, you know, Rory talked about before

848
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 2: the mental issues that he's had come into fights, you know,

849
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: being able to you know, does he really want to

850
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 2: do this. You know, once you start questioning yourself with

851
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: this something you really want to do, you know, the

852
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: reservation is already there, and and you know, wanting to

853
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: go to that place, that dark place, you know where

854
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: you know that a lot of fighters can't follow you.

855
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: You don't want to go there anymore. But in order

856
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: to really be the best, in order to really scrape

857
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: at the top and be a champion, you have to

858
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: be willing to go there. You have to want to

859
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: go there. You have to understand that if I'm going

860
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: to go there, this guy is not going to want

861
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: to follow me. And if he does follow me to

862
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: this dark place, he's going to want to go back

863
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: because he's not going to feel safe. And Rory may

864
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: not just be willing to do that anymore. I mean,

865
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: he's tried to reignite himself, you know by coming here

866
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: to Sanford and South Florida and training with some killers,

867
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: and that's done a good part for him. But for

868
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: the most part, whenever you're looking to really really transform

869
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: your mindset, you really have to do it from a

870
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 2: mental standpoint inside inside, you know, And has Rory done that,

871
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, And it doesn't look like he has.

872
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: You know, I may may have sounded like I was

873
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: contradicting myself where I said, you know, I don't want

874
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: to discount this at all. I can't discount this win

875
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: at all. And the reason why I say that is

876
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: because I think Rory is still technically very strong and

877
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: very elite. And that's I think why he had great

878
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: success against Tbau and Melender guys he's he's better than

879
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: and he was just able to out technique them. He

880
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: tried to out you know, be more technical than than

881
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 1: Cooper here had just got beat at every corner. So

882
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm not going to downgrade it. But I do believe

883
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: what you said is true. I don't think Rory wants

884
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: to go to that place anymore. And I don't you know,

885
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's in if he's unable,

886
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: I think it's more unwilling. I mean, look, this guy's

887
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: been through I mean, hillacious war ra shout. If he

888
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: would have walked away from the sport after that Robby

889
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: Lawler fight, I would never have said a negative word

890
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 1: about him. I mean that says, that says far deep

891
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: down the hell rabbit hole you can go in a fight, right,

892
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 1: and and but I don't think he wants to go

893
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: there anymore. And he didn't need to go, let's say

894
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: there to beat Cooper, but he needed to go, you know,

895
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: he needed to go in that direction. I don't think

896
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: that's in him to do that anymore. And so I'm

897
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 1: not here with the same concern that I was after

898
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: the John Fit fight, where I'm like, look, if you

899
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: don't want to be in here anymore, don't be in here,

900
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: because it's going to end badly. It's going to end

901
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: destructively for you. I still think he's technically strong to

902
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: avoid really bad situations, but you know, there's enough signs

903
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: now when we look back. I mean, I'm still kind

904
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: of sore about that Lima rematch. You remember that Rashad

905
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: in the finals of the Well to weeight World Grand

906
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Prix under the Bell Tour banner. I just didn't see

907
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: a Rory who was willing to do what it took

908
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: to win. And I think we, I don't want to

909
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: say we saw that again because Cooper was so dominant,

910
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: but we kind of saw that again, Rashad. You know,

911
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not telling Rory to go away. He's

912
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: still really damn good. But it's not the same man anymore.

913
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: It's not the same drag or red King or whatever

914
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: the hell we're supposed to call him.

915
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's tough because it's like this. You know,

916
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: in order to really go to that place, you have

917
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: to be willing to burn the boats and there's no

918
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: going back to where you just were. You know, you're

919
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 2: willing to just say, you know what, I if this

920
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 2: is my last dance, then I wanted to look like this,

921
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: and you really lean into that. But when you start

922
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: to expe life and start to have life outside of

923
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: fighting and not putting fighting on that pedestal as you

924
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: once did, you know, then it gets really hard to

925
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: just really put all your cards in it because you

926
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 2: know all your cards are not in it. You know

927
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: that you have all these other options outside of fighting,

928
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: and you know that you can apply yourself in other areas,

929
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: and you know that this is hard. You know what

930
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Just like, yo, this is a hard way

931
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: to make a living. And once you start thinking like that,

932
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: and once you start like really being like, you know,

933
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 2: do I really want to I really want to go there?

934
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: It's a rat because the guy across from you is

935
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: willing to go there and go ahead.

936
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: And it's easier obviously, you know, I want to be respectful.

937
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: It's easier for you somebody who's been there to say

938
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: that than Keyboard Warrior BC here who's saying, well, I

939
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: don't think this guy's willing to die anymore. I mean,

940
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: you know, who the hell am I? But to be objective,

941
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: I don't. And you know, maybe that is a way

942
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: to look at what, you know, take a closer look

943
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: after this fight, what he's doing while he's still here,

944
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: what he really wants out of it, because this sport's

945
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: two day to come in here, Rashada. It's weird. Some

946
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: some fighters are just businessmen who are here for the opportunity.

947
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: Some fighters just love to fricking fight. There are some

948
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: who carry a legitimate martial artist mindset that this is

949
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: no different than having a local taekwondo tournament, you know,

950
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: And but I think this game's too dangerous to be

951
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: only that. You know, you gotta be you gotta be willing,

952
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: able and ready to for this to take some dark,

953
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: hard turns. And if you're not, then then maybe you shouldn't.

954
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: So it's a tough spot to be in He's still really,

955
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: really damn good. But the story here is Ray Cooper

956
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: a great win and Rashad. Let's talk about where he

957
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: goes here. I think it's October twenty seventh for this division.

958
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: Walter Waite is the championship round for PFL. I think

959
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: the PFL playoffs will continue this week, by the way,

960
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: but Ray Cooper advances to face Magomed Magomed Karamov. And

961
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: why that is important after Magomed Karamov defeated Sabadu Sai

962
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: by three round decision. Is they fought once before Rashad

963
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: in the twenty eighteen PFL Tournament Championship. That's the last

964
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: time Ray Cooper has lost. Malcolm ed Karamov has not

965
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: lost since then. This could be a fairly epic battle

966
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 1: given the wrestling shown by Cooper in this matchup, going

967
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: in there against a guy straight out of Daugistan, ready

968
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: ready to put them on him. This is a sneaky

969
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: good fight.

970
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a really good fight. I mean, he's

971
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: gonna really have to be on his p's and q's

972
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 2: when it comes to everything rustling, but for the most

973
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: part uses rustling in the reverse, you know, uses rustling

974
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 2: to keep hit the fight where he wants to, which

975
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: is on the feet. You know, he has some really

976
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: good power and some heavy shots, and he stays in

977
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: a nice low base being a shorter fighter, so he

978
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 2: can really unload and land some nice clean shots. But

979
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: he's got to be able to stay on his feet.

980
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: He's got to be able to stay out of rustling trouble,

981
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: because if he's able to stay out of rust in trouble,

982
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: then he's not going to chip into that gas tank

983
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 2: where he can stand on his feet and strike.

984
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: The revival story of all things, Clay Collard took an

985
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: unfortunate turn when he lost a close, very close and

986
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: disputed decision to rush Manfiel and the lightweight bracket there

987
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: Rishard click call. It had been a fun story going

988
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: over the top rank Boxing and ESPN during the pandemic,

989
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: winning all of those fights when he was the heavy

990
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: underdog journeyman, and then he brought it to PFL and

991
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: he took it out of Anthony Pettis and he was

992
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: suddenly looking like the tournament favorite. But a good win

993
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,439
Speaker 1: by rush Manfield to survive in advance, but you could

994
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: make the case that collar deserve more in that one.

995
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely I mean, Kyle is a tough guy and

996
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: is when he fought Pattis, he showed that he's got

997
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: it to the next level. But at the end of

998
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: the day, that's how competition is. You know, you look

999
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 2: good against one guy, you can get yourself ready for

1000
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: one guy, but then the next test with the guy

1001
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: doesn't have the same name, you're not able to bring

1002
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 2: yourself to that level. But I mean, at the end

1003
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: of the day, this is a fighting and you got

1004
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: to fight the person in front of you. But for

1005
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: the most part, you always fighting yourself. It's not even

1006
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 2: about your other person. It's about what you can bring

1007
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: out of yourself. And you're able to bring out of

1008
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 2: yourself what you're capable of doing, then it doesn't matter

1009
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: who's standing in front of you, you're going to have

1010
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 2: the same results.

1011
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: PFL eight returns just three nights from now, will have

1012
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: definitely preview coverage This week on Morning covet Kayla Harrison

1013
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: in the main event in her women's lightweight semi final

1014
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: bout against Jennif Fabian So should be a good one

1015
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: as well. Look, we're shot, I'm down for PFL. I've

1016
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: said that many times this year that they won me over.

1017
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: They've made me a fan. I like the some elements

1018
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: they do. You always get Luke Thomas on the show

1019
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: every week telling you drop the stats already, all right,

1020
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't care that this guy throws a punch eight

1021
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 1: miles proud and I don't disagree with that. The one

1022
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: thing I will say, love the announced team and have

1023
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: been saying that all year. They really fantastic. Randy Couture,

1024
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: Kenny Florian and who's the fighter turn play by play

1025
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: guy I can never remember his name or shot.

1026
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 2: I forget his name too. I forget his name.

1027
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: We're killing this guy. He's great, Jason something, yeah, yeah, whatever. Anyway,

1028
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like, let's not pump the fight

1029
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: noise in anymore. Okay, it sounds like there's like a

1030
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: you know, like a semi truck backing up in the background.

1031
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 1: Like I know, there's no fans.

1032
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: What I like is a camera angles. The camera angles.

1033
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: They just bring a different kind of feel to the

1034
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: whole fight. I really like the way that they had

1035
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: the camera where you kind of like looking at eye

1036
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: level with the fighters as sometimes it kind of feels

1037
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,280
Speaker 2: like you're in a cage with them.

1038
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. Right there. They're trying some new weird things.

1039
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: You got the regular season, playoffs and championships and we'll

1040
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: see it. Continue to roll on, Rashad, that's MMA for now.

1041
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the box a little bit because

1042
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: it was a loaded weekend for boxing and Rashad we

1043
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: got to talk about what was what it was, and

1044
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: that was a stinker Saturday night on Showtime in a

1045
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: very important title fight at one hundred and eighteen pounds

1046
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: when Filipino slugger John Reel Casamiro brought in his WBO

1047
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 1: belt against forty year old former junior welter I'm sorry

1048
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: junior featherweight unified champion and my boy Guiermo Regan Dao

1049
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: and Rashad. The reason why I stound a little down

1050
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: trodden here is the two combined to set a CompuBox

1051
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: record for the least amount of attempted and landed punches

1052
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: over twelve rounds. From that standpoint, it was brutal. But

1053
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: here's a few deals. Here. Here's the deal, dude, that's

1054
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: who Garama Riggindau is. That's who he's always been. The

1055
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: two time Cuban Olympic gold medalist has burnt bridges with

1056
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: promoters and networks every step of the way. But I

1057
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: am here to give him a few of those flowers

1058
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: and say, at forty he cut down in weight to

1059
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: go down to one eighteen, he's still world class and elite.

1060
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: Had he won this, you know, there could have been

1061
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 1: a don Air rematch unification. There could have been Naola

1062
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: and Newe. But rashad this fight for as weird and doll.

1063
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: As it played out, there was some somewhat controversial scorecards here,

1064
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: a split decision win for Casamiro nine rounds to three

1065
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: on one card. For John Real, I believe it was

1066
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: seven rounds to five on the other, and then the

1067
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: third judge had it in favor of Riggandau in the

1068
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: seven to five territory. I've been taking hell on Twitter

1069
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,759
Speaker 1: for about forty eight hours because I scored it ten

1070
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 1: rounds to two for Riggandow. Why am I some riggandal

1071
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: super fan. Well, I've been one of the rare guys

1072
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: holding the flag on top of the mountain throughout his career, saying,

1073
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, this is our and sometimes we're not enjoying

1074
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: it or witnessing it. Rashot are there's a scoring criteria

1075
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: on how fights should be scored, and it's really hard

1076
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: for me to come on this show and defend a

1077
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: guy who's so hard to defend in Riggandal. It's like

1078
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: being the mandated court appointed lawyer for somebody on death row, right,

1079
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Like no, you know, everybody who saw this fight saw

1080
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: the scorecards and were like, good riddance, get rego off

1081
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: my screen, but we're shot. You score boxing rounds a

1082
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: little different than MMA, where MMA is damage heavy all

1083
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 1: the time, and boxing the scoring criteria includes defense, ring generalship,

1084
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: clean and effective punching. I didn't see Casimiro do any

1085
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: of this. Did Regal run far too much? Yes, but

1086
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: that's what he is and who he does. I thought

1087
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: Riggandal landed the cleaner shots. I thought he dictated the

1088
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: terms of this completely. I thought he confused and made

1089
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 1: Casamaro look pretty awful. And I also I thought Casimiro

1090
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: was afraid to go after him because of how hard

1091
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: Riggindau hits. At one eighteen rashod am I gonna be

1092
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: that guy standing out, you know, on the soapbox with

1093
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: the sign and everybody spits on me. I mean, I

1094
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: thought Riggandell got robbed. I'm gonna be straight up honest,

1095
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: and I think that I felt like this was the

1096
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: continuation of this sport from guys like Dan Rayfield through

1097
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: whomever to just be like enough with this guy, get

1098
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: this style off my screen. I don't want this guy

1099
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: on there anymore. And if that's where you stand, that's fine.

1100
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,319
Speaker 1: But we've seen, you know, basketball teams hold the ball

1101
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: during the shot clock to try to win a weird way, right,

1102
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: There's different ways to win fights. We've seen John Fitch

1103
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: have a great career. This was a John Fitch like

1104
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: performance in boxing, and I'm here to say that I

1105
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: saw one guy was better than the other. It didn't

1106
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: and he didn't get his hand raised.

1107
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 2: You know, I agree with a lot what you said.

1108
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 2: I thought that riggandal fought a great fight. It was

1109
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: a Riggandall fight, like he said, you know, to me,

1110
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 2: the true mastery in the Riggandalu performance was the fact

1111
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: that the angles in which he was able to take,

1112
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: you know, off of that lead hand. He was able

1113
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: to really set a nice trap and really get off

1114
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: the center line on multiple occasions, either whether he was

1115
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 2: going right or he was going left. He really just

1116
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: kept Casamera really confused on which way he was going

1117
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 2: to do. And the thing that made Riggindau so effective

1118
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 2: to me was the fact that he kept setting these

1119
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 2: traps and then once Casamera would would come in, he

1120
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: would land at left hand pretty pretty solid, and that

1121
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: kept Casamero kind of on the outside and at some

1122
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: point almost baiting, you know, Riggandau to come in and

1123
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 2: really shutting down his his his press his pressure just

1124
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 2: to try to turn the turn the tides a bit

1125
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: to get Riggandau to try to press him. But you know,

1126
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing that Casamiro did wrong was

1127
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: he didn't utilize that jab hand enough. You know, he

1128
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 2: he that that jabhand was almost it just wasn't wasn't

1129
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 2: effective enough. He'd throw it, but every single thing that

1130
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: he was thrown with that lead hand, it was too hard.

1131
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 2: And because it was too hard, it was a hook.

1132
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 2: You know, Riggandal seen it and he'll get out of

1133
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 2: the way and catch him with a check hook and

1134
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: every single time. So what Casameiro needed to do was

1135
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: he just needed to kind of just use a jab

1136
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: like Ugus used. Ugus has a jab where he kind

1137
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: of throws it and then he throws two in a row,

1138
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 2: but he keeps it out there, he keeps it extended,

1139
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: and it's not so much on the first one, but

1140
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 2: it's the second or third one that usually catches his opponent.

1141
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 2: And if Casamero was able to do that against Riggandal,

1142
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: then he would have been able to better tell where

1143
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: he was going. You know, if he throws one and

1144
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 2: then he gets a beat on riggandot where he's going,

1145
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: then he's able to then throw another shot where he

1146
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: anticipates riggandalod being. But he didn't do that. He just

1147
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 2: kind of was chasing him the whole night and really

1148
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: almost walking into the traps of Riggandal. So I do

1149
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: believe that it was. It was close. It was a

1150
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: lot closer than the scorecards would saying. And I do

1151
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 2: you know, I was watching riggodall and just at all

1152
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: at his defense. You know, it was kind of like

1153
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 2: sweet Peet Parnell Whitaker, the way that he moved. It

1154
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 2: was at forty two years old to be able to

1155
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: move like that, you know, because your legs are the

1156
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: first thing to go. The legs are the first thing

1157
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 2: to go as an older fighter. But you know, to

1158
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: have his legs. The way that he was able to

1159
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: move him, to be able to just completely make his

1160
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: opponent miss and just not be there for the countershot

1161
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: was very impressive. I honestly got I was very well

1162
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: entertained by the fight because, as you see the eleventh

1163
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 2: and the twelfth round, the trap was sprung ricord I

1164
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 2: was able to land in bigger shots the last two rounds,

1165
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: and it was because Casamaira was getting very frustrated and

1166
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 2: just kind of walking in and getting caught with that

1167
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 2: straight left.

1168
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look like I'm not trying to say that this

1169
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 1: was you know, for everybody, right this was like like

1170
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 1: you know, Luke Love's ad CC or ad ac DC,

1171
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: whatever the hell they call that grappling stuff there and

1172
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: Nabu Dabi and all that stuff, and that's great. I

1173
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: can't watch that stuff. To some people, they can't watch

1174
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: this stuff, But I agree with you. I watched this fight.

1175
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to say enthralled, but I saw the

1176
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: technical theater placing. It was a masterclass hit and not

1177
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: get hit performance from Riggandau, and he was frustrating the

1178
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: crap out of Custom Marrow, and I felt the onus

1179
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: was on Castamero to take to not take a chance,

1180
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: not rely on the judges, and instead to go after it. Rashad,

1181
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: you said something key. He wasn't at least putting that

1182
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: job out there, even if he wasn't hitting. You know

1183
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: what that difference is. I was ringside when I got

1184
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: the poster when riggand Nonino donair in twenty thirteen Radio

1185
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: City Music Hall was the showdown unification about at one

1186
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: twenty two, And what Donaiir did to stay in that

1187
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 1: fight when he was also getting schooled was at the

1188
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: very least come forward and constantly keep that jab going.

1189
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: That at least gives you a case to say, look

1190
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: this guy in front of me, he's running, he's not engaging.

1191
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: The argument here isn't should Riggindau throw more punches? Of

1192
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: course he should. Right of course, he's taking far too

1193
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 1: many chances that the judges won't appreciate his art or

1194
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: they're just sick of him and they want him to go.

1195
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 1: But I don't know, man, I saw Casamio just not

1196
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 1: willing to do anything. Because although Kasimier had a great

1197
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: first round in which you could argue he should have

1198
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: been had a knockdown score even though I thought he

1199
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: hit Rego late on the ground after that first round,

1200
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't see him biting down and going

1201
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: after it. And it was brilliant what Riggandalu did. And

1202
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: this is a great division and it's unfortunate for Showtime

1203
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: from a entertainment standpoint that Riggando laid a nag like

1204
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: that and mshad. I mean, even after he beat Donair,

1205
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 1: his promoter then Bob Aram was in the you know, afterwards,

1206
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: I was there with the media going, how am I

1207
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: going to sell this guy? Like, instead of playing up

1208
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: that we've got someone special hair, He's like, how am

1209
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: I going to sell him? But again, I can only

1210
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: defend Rigo so much. They gave him a showcase after

1211
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: that against Joseph ec Beckwall. I was there in Atlantic

1212
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: City and he did the same crap, did nothing. He

1213
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: had a comeback opportunity on the Codo Canelo pay per

1214
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: view under card in twenty fifteen, and he crapped the

1215
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: bed again. I'm going to give him his credit at

1216
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: forty to show the legs that he did, to show

1217
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: the style that he did. He's just never been an

1218
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: advocate in the right way for his own career. Commercially

1219
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: or now at this point to like leave no doubt

1220
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: on the scorecards. I'm not saying here that you know,

1221
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: he can go pick it outside the WBO offices. It's

1222
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: his fault he lost this fight. I just think that

1223
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: if you look at the letter of the law on

1224
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: how you score boxing, there were some things he did

1225
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: that were masterful, and I don't know how those judges

1226
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: gave Casimiro all those rounds for ineffective aggression one after another,

1227
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: and because you know the game is hit and not

1228
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 1: get hit. We've seen Floyd Mayweather do that, and Riggindal

1229
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: did that beautifully. I don't know if he's going to

1230
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: get another opportunity on Big Time TV. You can argue

1231
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: with this kind of style that he doesn't deserve it.

1232
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: You can definitely argue that. But I saw something very

1233
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: artsy on Saturday night. I want to give Rigo the props.

1234
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: I'd still love to see him in a rematch against

1235
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: done Air. Who knows where it goes from here, Rashad,

1236
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: But letter of the law, it feels good to say

1237
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: the challenger needs to take the title from the champion,

1238
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: but that's not how you score fights. He score fights

1239
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: ten to nine round by round right. So you know,

1240
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: you could say Ty goes to the runner, but it's

1241
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: up to the umpire to call who. You know, it

1242
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: is what it is at the end.

1243
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 2: Of the day, No, you don't want I think I

1244
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: felt that Riggandalk could have done, you know, to really

1245
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 2: add to the fact that he was moving to get

1246
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: out of the way. It's like when whenever you move,

1247
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: whenever you're evading a fighter, right, you're making a fighter

1248
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 2: reset his feet. And that's why you move in the

1249
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: first place, because you can make the guy reset his feet,

1250
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 2: but you have to anticipate the guy resetting his feet

1251
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 2: and then that's when you come with your shots after

1252
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 2: you made the fighter reset his feet. So after Riggandald

1253
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: moved to the position and then then he has an

1254
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: opponent chasing him at that point, that's when he's supposed

1255
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 2: to lead with another combination or shot. But Riggandald very

1256
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 2: very rarely did that. But when he did, he was

1257
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: able to, you know, to land at nice left effectively.

1258
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 2: And I think if he implemented more of that, then

1259
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 2: there would be no question in our minds or the

1260
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: judge's minds who was really leading the dance. But it

1261
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 2: really gets hard to tell who's leading the dance when

1262
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: you're just moving in evading and then not striking after

1263
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: you evade.

1264
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and keep bringing the hate to me on Twitter.

1265
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: Could you how could you defend or runner? Well, there

1266
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 1: was some other nuances going on. Maybe you can watch

1267
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: a little more box and get that where there was

1268
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: no nuances Rashad. We saw action on Saturday night. Dezone

1269
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: brought it to us from Texas. Rising unbeaten welterweight Virgil

1270
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: Ortiz Junior improved to eighteen and zero with eighteen KOs

1271
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: in the biggest step up performance of his career. It

1272
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: took place at the Dallas Cowboys practice facility. Rashott. I'm

1273
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: not going to ever try to pronounce Mean Machine's real name,

1274
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: although he is my Lithuanian brother and their ed Judice

1275
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 1: calvaliawskis close, right close, close close, But I will say

1276
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: this Mean Machine as he did when he dropped Bud

1277
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: Crawford in that title loss, he brought the pain early.

1278
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: He rocked Ortez in round two with a big upper cut.

1279
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: You could argue he had deserved a knock down there,

1280
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: but Ortiz weather the storm like the truly great fighters do, Rashod.

1281
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if Virgil Ortiz will end up becoming

1282
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: a truly great fighter, but this twenty three year old

1283
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: showed us something big time on Saturday in terms of

1284
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: heart and adjusting. He went on to drop me machine

1285
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 1: five times, including four times in round eight to get

1286
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: the TKO win. I was out of my seat, it

1287
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: was that impressive. We got a big time player at

1288
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: one forty seven. Tell me, tell me I'm lying, Rashad.

1289
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 2: No, you're not lying at all. I mean when Kava

1290
01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 2: Loascas came out and he caught or Tease and dropped

1291
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 2: them in the second round, or it looked like he

1292
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: dropped in the second round, it looked like he was

1293
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 2: going to be a long night for or Tez, you know.

1294
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 2: But or Tees was buttoned up and his defense is tight.

1295
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: You know, he has a nice high guard and he

1296
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of that that Tito Trinidad back

1297
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 2: in the day with that high guard and the way

1298
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: he bounces then he comes forward. You know, he kind

1299
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: of reminded me of that. But I mean, his hands

1300
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: up high, his defense was sound and the pressure was

1301
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 2: consistent no matter what Kava Loscas threw at him. The

1302
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: pressure was consistent, and you've seen that pressure being consistent

1303
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 2: and the power and the punching increase as a fight

1304
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: went on. And as you've seen, Kava Loss really just

1305
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: couldn't take it after a while because the return became

1306
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: so fast because Ortiz keeps his hands up so high

1307
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: and is nothing for him to return a shot. And

1308
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: when you're playing that game with a guy who keeps

1309
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 2: his hands up so tight, if you're not fresh, then

1310
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna start finding yourself getting caught at the end

1311
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: of everything that you throw, and then it's gonna make

1312
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 2: you not want to throw. And then because you're not throwing,

1313
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: then your opponent is gonna get off. In the case,

1314
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 2: Ortiz was able to get off and just pretty much

1315
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 2: just have his way with Kaveloskas after he melted him

1316
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: down with just great pressure and great defense.

1317
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Ortiz looks to be the real deal. And

1318
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: these are the type of challenges you want to see

1319
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 1: young fighters have to test pass. Excuse me, when they

1320
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: do face adversity. I mean, we're shot. This was legitimate

1321
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: adversity where we're like, oh man, maybe he's not for real.

1322
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: Me machine came in in top shape. He was built

1323
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: like a brick shit out. He brought the power, he

1324
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: had great technique. But to your point, Ortiz's job was

1325
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: so solid. He's a two handed puncher and finisher. He

1326
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: goes to the body so well to show us the

1327
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: ability to clear your head, clear those cobwebs and get

1328
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: back in on track and do what you have to do.

1329
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: We shot. There is a new generation of fighters and

1330
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: this is so damn and refreshing right now. From Ryan

1331
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: Garcia to Gervonte Davis to now Virgil Ortiz, guys who

1332
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: are going after it. What do I mean by that?

1333
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: Maybe there was a lot of fighters who were trying

1334
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: to emulate Floy. You can't emulate Floyd, right Nobody is

1335
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: as defensively slick as him, nobody's as great of a

1336
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: businessman as him. But we're seeing a lot of during

1337
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: the tail end of the Floyd era, fighters who want

1338
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: to become a star and then take easy matchups. And

1339
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: then you know, that's why I'm praising what Manny Pacquiao

1340
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: is doing right now. Not everybody wants to go after it.

1341
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,520
Speaker 1: These new young guys for shot, they want small bro.

1342
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: This reminds me of that spirit that really hasn't been

1343
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: there since the late nineties, right when we had you know,

1344
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: d La Joya and Trinidad and Moseley and Winky Wright

1345
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: and Vernon Forest and the welterweight you know are one

1346
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: p fifty four and at welterweight there Fernando Vargas. These

1347
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: were guys who went after it. Virgil Ortiz went after

1348
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: it in this fight, and he had the technical know

1349
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: how to get through the storm. But he had balls. Man,

1350
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: he's got wave os. Golden Boy has a true, legitimate

1351
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: future star. The only question is can they get him

1352
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: into those big fights. He called out everybody. There's some

1353
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: hope that maybe he could fight Terrence Crawford, but Rashad,

1354
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: we know Terrence Crawford has a purse bit upcoming that

1355
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: the WBO ordered to potentially face Sean Porter in what

1356
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: could be a fantastic pay per view if that happens

1357
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: later this fall. Either way, I think that Golden Boy

1358
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: Oscar de la Hoy in company they're matching Virgil Ortiz

1359
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: the right way. He beat Mohooker. Now he beat a

1360
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: tough out and mean machine. This watch this guy. Keep

1361
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: an eye on this guy. Eighteen and oh eighteen Ko's

1362
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna be something very special. And it doesn't hurt Rashad

1363
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: that he could talk a little bit. Good looking guy,

1364
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: Mexican American, it's all there, it's all there.

1365
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 2: He's got that Mexican American mentality too. When it comes

1366
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 2: to fighting, he comes and he brings that pressure forward

1367
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: and you know just just is just relentless. And you

1368
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 2: know it's good to see because you said, it's like

1369
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 2: a throwback to the eighties and nineties where boxing was boxing.

1370
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 2: I mean, and here's the thing. You know, he's a

1371
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 2: he's a boxer that can fight. And when I say that,

1372
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean this. You know you sometimes you want to box.

1373
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 2: You watch a boxing match, but you don't see the fight.

1374
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: Case in point riggingdall right, you don't see the fight.

1375
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: You don't see the spots where emotion is leading away,

1376
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: where the holes are open, where you see a guy

1377
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 2: that's gonna swing a punch just because he got caught

1378
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: with a good punch. You know, that's when the fight

1379
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,919
Speaker 2: comes out of you. When you kind of swinging in there,

1380
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 2: swinging from hell to try to hit your opponent, that's

1381
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: when that's when the fight comes out of you. And

1382
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: with Ortiz, He fights good when he's in there brawling

1383
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: in with the fight, but he also fights very good

1384
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: from boxing standpoint, and he can go interchangeably with those styles.

1385
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: And you've seen it in the fight. After he got

1386
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: dropped in the second round, he came back and he

1387
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: won that second round, and then he dropped. He dropped,

1388
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 2: he dropped his opponent in the third round. So he's

1389
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 2: he he fights with that emotion and that's what we

1390
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,560
Speaker 2: need to see because that's what makes boxing fun to

1391
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: watch when you see guys just kind of completely come

1392
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: and glue and throw all the technique out the wind

1393
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: and to start throwing bombs from him.

1394
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: Very well said, and Rashad, You and I do a

1395
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: fun little spinoff series in MK story Time with Sugar

1396
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: Roshata where we look back at the biggest fights of

1397
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: your career. What do you think was the fight in

1398
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: your career that's sort of most similar to this period

1399
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: in Ortiz's life where we know that there's something there,

1400
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 1: but we need to see it. We need to see it.

1401
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,959
Speaker 1: Tested Was it the Bisping fight? What would you sort

1402
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: of circle when you look back at your run.

1403
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: I would say I would say maybe the Bisbeing fight.

1404
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: Maybe to Shaun Salmon fight where it was kind of like,

1405
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: you know, I'm looking to kind of show what I

1406
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: can do, and it's a big proven ground of what

1407
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 2: I can do on the next level. But I mean,

1408
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 2: you know, you got to be able to fight and

1409
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: bring the fight for more than just a technical aspect,

1410
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, that's what the

1411
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 2: fans are feeling. They feel the emotion. You know, emotion

1412
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: is something that translates without evening anybody say anything. You

1413
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 2: see it, you know, and when you see it, it

1414
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 2: just strikes She's like, Woh, that just gave me a feeling.

1415
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: I just can't explain. I got goosebumps. You know, that's

1416
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: what you want to see in a fight. And these

1417
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 2: guys they got it, you know, these younger guys, like

1418
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: you said, they really want to fight like that.

1419
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that hurt boxing these days,

1420
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: from the best not fighting, the best promotional network, wars,

1421
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: bad judging, corrupt like, oh, there's a lot of bad stuff.

1422
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: Do you know what fixes a lot of that bad

1423
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: stuff when when they schedule a big fight and the

1424
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 1: two fighters go out there and they fight. Yeah, I

1425
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 1: mean I miss that feeling and That's why pay per

1426
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: views like Canelo Glovekin were so special, right, guys went

1427
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 1: after it, you know, on the biggest level. So hopefully

1428
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to see more of that. To close,

1429
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: we shot out in the box from the weekend, had

1430
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: to shout out on the ESPN undercard. This could be

1431
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 1: a developing story from the standpoint of just commercial appeal.

1432
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: The grandson of the late legend the greatest, Muhammad Ali

1433
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,960
Speaker 1: Nico Ali Walsh, a twenty one year old middleweight, made

1434
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: his pro debut. We're not trying to say he went

1435
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: in there against against the future champion. He was in

1436
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: there against maybe a future Uber driver in Jordan Weeks.

1437
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,400
Speaker 1: It took just one round for Ali Walsh to get

1438
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: the victory, but with Flavor flav in his corner where

1439
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: in the nineteen sixty everlast trunks that were made for

1440
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: his late grandfather. I don't know. Overrashot it kind of

1441
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 1: felt good. I feel like Top Rank, which signed him

1442
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: in ESPN, has got something here at least to engauge

1443
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: people's interest moving forward.

1444
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: I think so as well. You know, I've watched a guy,

1445
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 2: I watched him a couple of times, and I kind

1446
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: of like the way that he fights. You know, he

1447
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 2: kind of reminds me of in a sense of his grandfather.

1448
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: The way he throws that jab right hand, it kind

1449
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,920
Speaker 2: of reminds because the way he does it, he throws

1450
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: it and he kind of pulls the guy into him.

1451
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 2: He kind of pulls a guy into him, and then

1452
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: that right hand comes right at there. And Ali had

1453
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: a really good job, I mean really really good way

1454
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 2: of bringing guys into him with that jab, calling him

1455
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: with that jab, and then when he comes back, he'll

1456
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: lean back and then he hit him with that overhand

1457
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: writer that right handed Ali was known for. So his nephew,

1458
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 2: I mean, his grandson, he has that. He has it

1459
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 2: and you know, with the support, with the hype behind him,

1460
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 2: they know they got a star. You know, you got

1461
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: guys like you know, the Flavor Flame fall Over. You

1462
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 2: know if Flavor is a hype man, I mean, look

1463
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: what he did for Public Enemy, Imagine what he can

1464
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:26,839
Speaker 2: do for Ali.

1465
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,799
Speaker 1: I love it. Flavor Flavor and the post fight interview

1466
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: was like taking credit for everything too is great. He

1467
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,639
Speaker 1: was like my god son, I told him everything rashod

1468
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 1: so many times, whether it's the son or you know, grandson,

1469
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: of alleged I mean, the pressure on these guys in

1470
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: any sport to live up to that is ridiculous. And

1471
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:44,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude, I don't know if Niko Ali

1472
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: Walsh is going to be a fighter. Bob Aaron was

1473
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: even like, I don't know, man, We're gonna see, right,

1474
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if if if one day

1475
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 1: they cast him out to a YouTuber, who knows, But

1476
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:57,920
Speaker 1: I will say I'm interested. He seems like a good kid.

1477
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: He grew up in Las Vegas. His mother is the

1478
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: daughter of Muhammad Ali, and you know, he grew up

1479
01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: with a great relationship with his grandfather. It's it's fun.

1480
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 1: It's fun to see the legacy carry on like that.

1481
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't always end well. It's rare that

1482
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: a Floyd Mayweather Junior will be better than his great

1483
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 1: father and uncle ever were in a boxing family. But

1484
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: you know, we'll see what happens. We'll see maybe Rashad

1485
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: Evans Junior one day is going to come out here

1486
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: and take over the MMA world. Who knows.

1487
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: Maybe is there a Rashad Junior there is? Yeah?

1488
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 1: How old are you?

1489
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: Fourteen? He's a wrestler too.

1490
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Okay, okay, interesting, we can't keep note. Keep

1491
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: note of that for the future, all right, Rashad I

1492
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 1: mentioned that we haven't done a live show in a week,

1493
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 1: so there are a lot of lingering news stories. I'd

1494
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: like to get your thirty second or more take on

1495
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: some of these. Let's hit some quick hitters from around

1496
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: the horn. Rashad tell me what the hell? This is?

1497
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: The great hobieb Normaga Medov, who retired as you Run

1498
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:58,280
Speaker 1: beat in UFC Lightweight champion, has signed a deal with

1499
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 1: third tier Russian SoC her team FC Legion Dynamo. Is

1500
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: this one we think it is? Is he gonna play

1501
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 1: like like Usain Bolt did? Is he gonna like Chad

1502
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 1: Johnson did? Is he gonna play soccer on the side?

1503
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 2: I don't know, honestly speaking. When I watch Habi play

1504
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: any kind of soccer or anything like that, it's usually

1505
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,640
Speaker 2: like Dagastani style where they're able to wrestle or incorporate

1506
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 2: what they do.

1507
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, she'll play basketball. They do like full court wrestling.

1508
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great, So it's the same thing. When they

1509
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 2: do soccer, it's like full contact soccer. So I'm not

1510
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:32,280
Speaker 2: sure how it's gonna pan out. With him doing soccer.

1511
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 2: But I mean he's he's from you know, he's from

1512
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 2: that part of the world. So you know, they're all

1513
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: crazy about fuci ball. They know how to be able

1514
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:41,639
Speaker 2: to move the ball around really well, and he can

1515
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 2: kick it. But I mean, to play at that level.

1516
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the thing about it. There's gonna be

1517
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:49,479
Speaker 2: dedication that the new coach and may not be able

1518
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 2: to handle, you know what I'm saying, Because I mean,

1519
01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 2: right now he's up for Coach of the Year with

1520
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: all the wins that he's been able to generate with

1521
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 2: his talent that he has underneath them. So I'm not

1522
01:10:58,720 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 2: sure if there's gonna be enough time.

1523
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,560
Speaker 1: Maybe they should hire Ted Lasso as new coach. It

1524
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: sounds like a marketing play Rashad, similar to when many

1525
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,080
Speaker 1: Pakia bought a team in the Filipino Basketball League and

1526
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 1: was suddenly like player, coach, owner, general manager. You know,

1527
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, let's let Manny go in and

1528
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,760
Speaker 1: shoot his couple of jumpers and you know, kiss the

1529
01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: ring on the way out. I don't know if this

1530
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,680
Speaker 1: is real competitive soccer for Habib or what, but we'll

1531
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 1: see what happens. A real fight that we were all

1532
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: hoping for Rashad this November actually at Madison Square Garden.

1533
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 1: Looks like it's going to be delayed. The COVID outbreak worldwide,

1534
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 1: but specifically in the Oceanic region, has likely pushed the

1535
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: rematch for the middleweight championship. Is there a lot of

1536
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,400
Speaker 1: sign you, Robert Whittaker two from this fall the maybe

1537
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: sometime in twenty twenty two Rashad your reaction, I've gotta admit,

1538
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: I gotta guess you're disappointed like I am. But is

1539
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: there any long term things here or do we just

1540
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: you know, wait till we see it again.

1541
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's unfortunate for the most part,

1542
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 2: but I think that this blow, this, I guess the postponement,

1543
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 2: I think it airs in the favor of Robert Whittaker,

1544
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 2: you know, more chance to kind of allow himself to

1545
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: just completely you know, get the game down of Israel

1546
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 2: and really kind of you know, work out any rough

1547
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: patches that he may have with the champion, you know,

1548
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: based on their last fight. So you know, it's kind

1549
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 2: of hard to even say when it's going to happen

1550
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 2: with just everything that's happened, and you know, with a

1551
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: different variance and everything else that surrounds COVID. So you know,

1552
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 2: who knows when this is going to be because you know,

1553
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 2: it could be a postponement to twenty twenty two, but

1554
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: then they may not be able to get over here

1555
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 2: to you know, to even to even fight, just depending

1556
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: on what countries if they go on lockdown, if there's

1557
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: another lockdown due to the variants that may happen this fall.

1558
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: So it's who knows when this fight may happen to

1559
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: be honest.

1560
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully we can see that at some point in

1561
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. It doesn't look like the UFC is

1562
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: going to be able to make it down, you know,

1563
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: down under anytime soon. You have to wonder, like as

1564
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 1: UFC and we've heard Dana said it, if the COVID

1565
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: numbers get really bad moving forward, we may just see

1566
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: him in like the Apex and maybe Texas here, Taichi

1567
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: Palace here, Abu Dhabi here, maybe throwing a Florida. But

1568
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, I hope we don't get that. I can't

1569
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: get it. We can't lock down again, Rashad. We can't

1570
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: do it.

1571
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 2: We can't, we can't can't.

1572
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: We can't do it. Bro, I need these fights like

1573
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 1: I need these on pit stains. You know what I'm saying.

1574
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going here, Rashad. The September

1575
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: eleventh scheduled Showtime Superbandamweight Boxing Unification bout, which is a

1576
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: great one, by the way, when Brandon Figueroa faces Stephen

1577
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 1: Fulton Junior. That has officially been moved a Saturday night

1578
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: September eighteenth. It'll still take place in Las Vegas. But

1579
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: the hook here, Rashad, is Showtime's gonna give us a

1580
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: full night combat sports night in America. I think I

1581
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: want to call it here. It's gonna start with that

1582
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: figaro A Fulton card Showtime Championship Boxing September eighteenth, and

1583
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: as soon as that card ends from San Jose, Belatour

1584
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: will have a card live on Showtime and your main event,

1585
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 1: the official Belatour MMA debut of Joel Romero against former

1586
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 1: light heavyweight champion Phil Davis. Your thoughts on this match

1587
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: making from Scotti, Coach and company.

1588
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's phenomenal. First of all, the

1589
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 2: boxing match is going to be phenomenal because you have

1590
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: two fighters cut from that cloth like you're talking about

1591
01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:16,680
Speaker 2: of the eighties and nineties late nineties fighters where they

1592
01:14:16,720 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 2: would just go in there and they would brawl. You know,

1593
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 2: you have Figuretta who goes and fights at a pace

1594
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: that's unrealistic, going for the body of Faulton, who can

1595
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: do the same. So that fight's going to deliver on

1596
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 2: all levels. But then you have I mean, mister Wonderful

1597
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 2: and Joel Romero. I mean, I'm so excited to see

1598
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 2: your well Romero fight. It's insane at this point, you know,

1599
01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: because I'm a huge Romero fan. I'm not fans of

1600
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 2: many fighters, but I'm a huge Romero fan, and I'm

1601
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 2: really excited to see what he's gonna be able to

1602
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: do in the Bellatoy Arena, especially against a very tough

1603
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: Phil Davis, who's game against anybody. You know, Phil, Phil

1604
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:56,519
Speaker 2: is only going to lose by the slightest margin. So

1605
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a great fight.

1606
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Joel's not getting any of young obviously, he's

1607
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: a marvel, a freak of nature in his you know,

1608
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 1: mid forties. Now he had that ey setback which pulled

1609
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: him out of the Rumble card or the Rumble fight

1610
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 1: in the Grand Prix tournament. But you know, technically there

1611
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: is a tough fight. He's moving up in waight to

1612
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: light evyweight. Phil Davis still has it. We saw that

1613
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:20,639
Speaker 1: despite his loss to Ryan Bader, can wrestle, can can

1614
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: be a technical striker. This should be a very I mean,

1615
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: who's wrestling is gonna have the advantage? Will Will this

1616
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,919
Speaker 1: end up being a war on the feet because of it?

1617
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 2: It's interesting it's gonna be on the feet, you know,

1618
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: doubt because listen, Romero's not taking anybody down. I can't

1619
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 2: remember one fight where he's actually uses wrestling, like how

1620
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: you would think that somebody at that level would use

1621
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 2: his wrestling. But I mean, if it does go to

1622
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 2: the wrestling, Romero should be able to win. But I

1623
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 2: mean Phil Davis is the funkiest guy that you can

1624
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,040
Speaker 2: wrestle again, So who even knows in that department especially

1625
01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,840
Speaker 2: you know, he's he's he's coming into form, you know.

1626
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: I think that this Phil Davis is a different Phil

1627
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: Davis in the fact that he's believing in himself more

1628
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: than he ever has before.

1629
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:04,800
Speaker 1: Let me dead wrong myself. Although Davis did fight Baier

1630
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: multiple times, it was the nemcov fight I was referring

1631
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 1: to where Phil Davis lost he's had two very close

1632
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: fights with Vedem Nemcoff there, Rashad, let's close it out

1633
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: with this. Twitter wars are what they are, but sometimes

1634
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 1: they tell us things. The recent one between Dustin Poorier

1635
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: and Nate Diaz has been interesting, and Nate DZ tweeting out,

1636
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,839
Speaker 1: I knew you was a pussy bitch. That's two and zero,

1637
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: referencing the time Porier pulled out of their proposed first fight,

1638
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 1: And now you know the Diaz is if you pull

1639
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: out against them or don't show up, they win. Dustin

1640
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: the Diamond came back with their lying and you're getting played.

1641
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: There was more back and forth. Connor McGregor jumped in,

1642
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: But I gotta ask you what this means. I thought

1643
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 1: Dustin Pourier defeating Connor McGregor a second time was gonna

1644
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 1: finally set up him fighting for the real title, getting

1645
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 1: his second crack at it against defending champion Charles OLIVERA.

1646
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: Does this suggest to you that we could be seeing

1647
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: Poorier Diaz instead? And would you be okay with that?

1648
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 1: What the hell does this mean?

1649
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it means. It means definitely that we

1650
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 2: can see poorer In Diaz next because listen, Poier figure

1651
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 2: out something very very smart, and it's two matchups with

1652
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: Con mc gregor.

1653
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,759
Speaker 4: It's about the money, baby, It's all about the money,

1654
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So he's willing to for

1655
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 4: go being a champion or just put that on the

1656
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 4: backgurunder because you know, with these blockbuster pay per views,

1657
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 4: he can get the money to keep him up at

1658
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 4: a certain level, you know, getting paid at a certain level,

1659
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,519
Speaker 4: because when you get that paycheck from McGregor, it's hard

1660
01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 4: to just take a normal paycheck fighting another guy. You

1661
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 4: want to fight another blockbuster fight where you're going to

1662
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 4: have a huge.

1663
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: Payday as well. And I don't mind poor you're doing it,

1664
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, I still believe

1665
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: he's the best guy in one of the best guys

1666
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 2: in the division. And I mean, truthfully speaking, the title

1667
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: is gonna be there, and I think he can go

1668
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:53,719
Speaker 2: and beat Diaz without burning too much, tread off his tires,

1669
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: and then still go and compete for a belt. But

1670
01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 2: then at the same time, Diaz is not an easy out,

1671
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: as Edwards found out, and it's going to be interesting

1672
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 2: to see, you know what Diaz we got coming out

1673
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 2: next time. Being the fact that he you know, is

1674
01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 2: not coming off such a long break, so it would

1675
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: be interesting in that capacity, But my money will still

1676
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 2: beyond Poitier, and I don't think it would take too

1677
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 2: much miles off him to do this fight, make a

1678
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: lot of money and then go for the bell.

1679
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,600
Speaker 1: Be interesting. But if they would do it at welterway,

1680
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,719
Speaker 1: We've had DSA and I'll fight you a middleway. Whatever,

1681
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: let's just do it. Uh It's I mean, maybe this

1682
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 1: is me at this point because Poitier's securing his legacy

1683
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 1: in his own way, right, He's becoming a bigger star

1684
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: by going after these type of matchups making a whole

1685
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: crap ton of money, which you know in this grind,

1686
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: in this game, once you can get to that one

1687
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: percent level, you don't want to leave it. So I

1688
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: get that, And there's many ways to lose against Charlie Olives.

1689
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: I get that too. I just never want to see

1690
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: this guy walk away from the sport one day were

1691
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: shot without rightfully holding that full title, I say that

1692
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: every Morning Combat episode in which Poitier's name comes up,

1693
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: and if he makes the second straight decision to go

1694
01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: in the other direction, I mean, what if he wants day,

1695
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, comes back around and then loses it. It

1696
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: would be interesting. Yes, he was interim champion. Yes he

1697
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: fought once with a full bell. Then you know, nobody

1698
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: beat Habib, so you know you can't take too much

1699
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,680
Speaker 1: away from him. Although Justin Gaetchee was one leg kick

1700
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 1: away from putting Obib in peril. Let's never forget that, Rachelle. Okay,

1701
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,439
Speaker 1: please please never forget that for it? Please? Okay, thank you,

1702
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: But hey, I'm not gonna tell Poorie what to do.

1703
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: I think the UFC would go for this. I do,

1704
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: even though it's basically saying your best lightweight is not

1705
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: fighting for the lateweight title. I think they would go

1706
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: for this. They love they love money. We all love money,

1707
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: rashat all. Right, let's sell our souls for it, okay, Rashad.

1708
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: That's our five topics for the week, in which you know,

1709
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: we ask each other questions. But luckily we have a

1710
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: segment every Monday where the fans ask us questions and

1711
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: it is called DMS from docs. Hey haw, hey, just

1712
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 1: a reminder if you're wondering, how do I get my

1713
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: question answered? Every Sunday night on the Morning Combat Instagram

1714
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: channel we put out the post, you respond to it.

1715
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 1: If we pick your question, you show up right there.

1716
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: There are social handles below you can follow us, and

1717
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: of course the email address Morning Combat at gmail dot

1718
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 1: com for Wednesday fan subs, Friday dead Wrong, all that

1719
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: good stuff, All right, Rashad, let's hit it from the people.

1720
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:24,519
Speaker 1: We start with at Merrick three R eight. Make the

1721
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 1: case four or against gay Guard musas being the best

1722
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 1: fighter to have never won a UFC belt. It's an

1723
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,360
Speaker 1: interesting debate based on what we talked about earlier in

1724
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: the show, Rashad I called the bridesmaid's list, right. He

1725
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,120
Speaker 1: used to include Michael bisbeing but he broke out of

1726
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: that jail. Does Gay Guard have a you know, a

1727
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: stake against guys like Dan Henderson, r A Faber, Joseph Benavidez,

1728
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: great fighters who have never held up that UFC title?

1729
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I think he definitely, you know, can go in

1730
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: that category. I mean he beat Chris Wide and Chris

1731
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: Whiteman beat at Thiago was Ut. Yeah, He's beat a

1732
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 2: lot of tough guys in the UFC and just you know,

1733
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: and really was a tough contender in the UFC. But

1734
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 2: just when he was there, I mean, it was just

1735
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 2: you know, didn't didn't really get in that position to

1736
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: fight for the belt. But I mean, yeah, I agree.

1737
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 2: I think he's definitely one of the fighters. You know,

1738
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 2: when I think of amazing fighters who have never held

1739
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: the belt in the UFC, he's one of those guys.

1740
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 2: And when you look when it's all said and done

1741
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: and you look at his resume, you know, his maybe

1742
01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:38,879
Speaker 2: at the time when he retires, maybe you know, sixty

1743
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 2: or seventy something fights, you'll be like, dang, this guy

1744
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 2: was never a UFC champion, but he's in champion all

1745
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 2: these other organizations. Yeah, you're definitely gonna think that because

1746
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 2: almost every organization that he was in he was a champion.

1747
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 2: So he's definitely on the list.

1748
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: Obviously, this debate is of fighters who have fought in

1749
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:58,679
Speaker 1: the UFC but never won the UFC title. That's why

1750
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: Fador or even Patricio Pippoll is not in this specific debate.

1751
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 1: Dan Henderson still to me might be number one. I mean,

1752
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: he came pretty damn close. He gave a good effort

1753
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: to Anderson Silva for the Middleway title, and then in

1754
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,679
Speaker 1: that rematch with Bispe and good god, he almost shot

1755
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 1: the world twice in that fight at age forty six.

1756
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 1: Whether he deserves to have been in that or not.

1757
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 1: Who are we missing? Rashot of you? I put Faber

1758
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,639
Speaker 1: in there. He never won the he was a WEC

1759
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,000
Speaker 1: champion ever won the UFC strap. Are we missing anybody?

1760
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 1: Huge Pourier, Dustin Poier.

1761
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: Right, Dustin Poier? Yeah, Dustin Poitier is one, uh.

1762
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 1: Right at the top. Yeah right now, Lance Evans, you know, yea.

1763
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 2: Tough alumni, right, tough alumni.

1764
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 1: Yeah night indeed, all right, let's keep it going. This

1765
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 1: is from at c LP film. They want to know

1766
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: is Randy Couture the best fighter ever? Where they quote

1767
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,959
Speaker 1: bad record? Now, what does bad record mean? It basically

1768
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,320
Speaker 1: means you've taken some losses. In MMA, losses are more

1769
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: forgiving than in boxing, where it's rare somebody with multiple,

1770
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: let's say ten losses goes on to win a world title.

1771
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,480
Speaker 1: It's happened, but it's rare. Rashad Randy Coutur was nineteen

1772
01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 1: and eleven. Would you say he's the best fighter of

1773
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: all time with a quote unquote bad record?

1774
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can say that, I mean, yeah, I can

1775
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 2: I can say that. Yeah, I think I think so

1776
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 2: if you're looking at records, but I mean, you know,

1777
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 2: with Randy Coutour, the win loss doesn't necessarily truly you know,

1778
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 2: give the story with him just because of the fact that,

1779
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 2: you know, even in the fights, like I mean, he

1780
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,320
Speaker 2: he was one of those guys that just really set

1781
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: himself apart from everybody by the way that he was

1782
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,559
Speaker 2: able to just grind people out, whether in the light

1783
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 2: heavyweight or the Headway division. I think his run at

1784
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 2: heavyweight really, you know, put him on another level when

1785
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: it comes to his legacy, you know, being you know,

1786
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:03,720
Speaker 2: when he was able to bump up and beat you know,

1787
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 2: those guys at heavyweight that really show that he was

1788
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: an exceptional talent and when he you know, so I

1789
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: think so I can agree with that.

1790
01:24:12,760 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, part of Couture's mystique as Captain

1791
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,880
Speaker 1: America was the ability to come back from losses and

1792
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,360
Speaker 1: get huge wins that we didn't think he could, like

1793
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: knocking down Tim Sylvie and all that. So sometimes you

1794
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 1: got to take those l's to be able to you know, again,

1795
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Vander Holyfield, right, he was the first heavyweight to win

1796
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: the title three times. You know, he took big losses

1797
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: in his prime but came back in big ways. And

1798
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, Rashad, we

1799
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: connect with those guys more right. I always said that

1800
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: about Floyd Mayweather, like we can't relate to Floyd Mayweather.

1801
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: He's perfect. He's got way more money than we'll ever see,

1802
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, we never saw that

1803
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: guy at take the l and come back right, it

1804
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:51,919
Speaker 1: was because he you know, to his credit, he was perfect.

1805
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,720
Speaker 1: We can relate to somebody who hits hard times. That's

1806
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 1: why we love the comeback story in this American drama

1807
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: called life.

1808
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: Right absolutely, yeah, all right, that's.

1809
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Why we want Luke to come back from gullbladder, paines

1810
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:08,400
Speaker 1: and me to shake off this black liver that I've

1811
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: got here, Rashad. But I'm working on it, okay. Rashad

1812
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,679
Speaker 1: love to fight underscore two slides in with a boxing question.

1813
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 1: Can Gary Antonio Russell versus Rashie Warren be next? What's

1814
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 1: next for each of them? So, Rashad, both of these

1815
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: bantam weights had feature bouts on the main card showtime

1816
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: the Riggandock Card Saturday Night. Unfortunately for Gary Antonio Russell,

1817
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: who's the brother of Gary Russell, junior, the featherweight champion

1818
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: and who looks to be very good. His fight was

1819
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:38,720
Speaker 1: over before started. Sixteen seconds in against Emanuel Rodriguez. There

1820
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 1: was that awful head clash. Rodriguez busted his nose open

1821
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: and the fight was called off. But big win for

1822
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 1: Rashie Warren, the former champion at age thirty four, just

1823
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: four knockouts on his career Ledger. He went out there

1824
01:25:50,360 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 1: and sent that man to hell. Damian Vasquez dropped him

1825
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 1: four times and finished him. I could see them fighting

1826
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: each other again at one eighteen or sorry, fighting each

1827
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,919
Speaker 1: other after this. Maybe his card, which had three bandonweight

1828
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,240
Speaker 1: fights on it was sort of a setup for that.

1829
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: That'd be a very good matchup with Warren being the veteran,

1830
01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 1: the south paw, and you know Russell Moore of the

1831
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 1: younger riser. At the moment, I do want to give

1832
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 1: Showtime credit for shot. They've already got the one twenty

1833
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 1: two division on lockdown. That's why we're seeing that unification

1834
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: between cool boy Steph and Brandon Figueroa. But they're doing

1835
01:26:22,000 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: pretty good things at one eighteen as well. You know,

1836
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,400
Speaker 1: we saw Castle Merril beat Riggindal. Can we get him

1837
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 1: against Noninodnair. Next they new Way's out there. I mean,

1838
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 1: I want to I want to keep seeing big business.

1839
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: I want to see the best face the best. I

1840
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 1: applaud what Showtime has been able to do there. If

1841
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: the next fight is Warren versus Russell, I'm down with that.

1842
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 1: What I'm not down with though, rashod and tell me

1843
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,679
Speaker 1: if I'm being ignorant or mean similar to George Foreman

1844
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 1: naming all seven or whatever of his sons George Gary

1845
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:55,639
Speaker 1: Russell's dead. Gary named all of his boys Gary Russell,

1846
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:01,720
Speaker 1: and they're like all fighters, dude, they're all like Gary

1847
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: Russell Junior, Gary Antonio, Gary Antonay Russell.

1848
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 2: There.

1849
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a little much.

1850
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,160
Speaker 2: Right, It's a whole lot. It's a whole lot. I mean,

1851
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 2: what is this sister name? Gary Gary Gary Gerica.

1852
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know where they went with that.

1853
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't.

1854
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. But hey, to each his own anytime. Somebody,

1855
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 1: you know what I used to do with shad, Like

1856
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,600
Speaker 1: you find out like one of your cousins names some

1857
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 1: kids some ridiculous awful. That's awful. Somebody should tell them.

1858
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: And then you realize you're just being a hater. You're

1859
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 1: just being a Karen. You know what, name your kids

1860
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: whatever the hell you you want to name your kids

1861
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: weird names, go for sorry, you got any weird names

1862
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: in your kids?

1863
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: Diety weird names? Got different names?

1864
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it gives it gives them a unique identity, right,

1865
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: they're all not named Gary.

1866
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 2: It gives it gives them a different you know, they

1867
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,520
Speaker 2: never hear before. My son his name is Solaris.

1868
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:53,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, do we call them Saul to.

1869
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: Call them soul? So soul? I like that, right?

1870
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: All right, all right, hey, let's keep it rolling here

1871
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 1: from I'm actually Ozzy Wow? Is that the real Ozzie Sledding?

1872
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: And is BC the real life Homer Simpson? Rashot?

1873
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: Your thoughts be seeing something else? Man, I don't know

1874
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: if he's a real life home for Simpson, but he's

1875
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 2: he's a character one hundred percent. I mean, you never

1876
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 2: know it's gonna come out of BC's mouth. But that's

1877
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,400
Speaker 2: the fun of working with BC. DC says some stuff

1878
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 2: and you're just like, wait, what You never know when.

1879
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:26,360
Speaker 1: Your career is gonna end. Thank you something I said?

1880
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: It's great. You know. It brings a real edge to

1881
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,720
Speaker 1: the broadcast. But no, I have much better hairline than

1882
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 1: Homer Simpson and hopefully I'm not.

1883
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: Waistline too, thank you very much.

1884
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: And like Billy Hoyle and White Man Can't Jump, I

1885
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: will say it's hod goddamn work making something this pretty

1886
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: look this buffoonish for your entertainment, folks. Okay, thank you.

1887
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Speaker 1: There is a method to this madness or is there

1888
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,040
Speaker 1: that's for you to figure out? More news At eleven,

1889
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 1: we got one more from Sam Lao eight eight eight nine.

1890
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: As Luke would say, one of the worst handles in

1891
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: social media history. Do you have a favorite Disney Pixar movie?

1892
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: For shot? I brought up the list of specific Disney

1893
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Pixar movies to refresh myself. I don't normally go down

1894
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 1: this lane too often. If Luke was here, he would

1895
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 1: be shouting out the praises of Coco. Do you and

1896
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:22,000
Speaker 1: the kids, whether it's Toy Story of Bugs, Life, Monsters, University,

1897
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 1: inside out, any of that. I mean, is there a.

1898
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 2: What's what's on a list? Because I mean, I know

1899
01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 2: I like a lot of Disney movies. I mean I've been.

1900
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Watching one and two The Incredibles, Monsters, inc Monsters, you

1901
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 1: a Bugs life. I said that already soul Luca like

1902
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,479
Speaker 1: Sol Sol so named after your son.

1903
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 2: Of course, right there.

1904
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: I like that. So I'm a big fan of Looking

1905
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 1: at this list quickly, I would say, I don't watch

1906
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,639
Speaker 1: these off. I'm big ratatooey fan. I liked Wally. Those

1907
01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 1: are some good good people are menich are producers saying

1908
01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:56,600
Speaker 1: put some respect on Finding Nemo? Nah? No, bra not

1909
01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: bro okay you ever go on the Finding Nemo right

1910
01:29:59,280 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 1: at Epcot?

1911
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 2: What a yeah, come.

1912
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 1: On, step it up, give me something here Apcop please?

1913
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: All right, thank you? Rashond. Do you guys get down

1914
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 1: with the animated movies like like the Thomases do?

1915
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely listen. I love it. I love those

1916
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,640
Speaker 2: I love those Disney animated movies. I love them. Man,

1917
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 2: They're they're high in Evan's house especially, you know, with

1918
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 2: all the kids and everything watching them all the time.

1919
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: So on Saturday, took the kids and the wife and

1920
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:29,240
Speaker 1: mother in law to Jungle Book with the Rock or

1921
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 1: Jungle Cruise whatever the hell was called something with a jungle. Okay, Hey,

1922
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 1: this guy Dwayne Johnson, you know, I don't think he

1923
01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: I think he's like the most unhateable person on this planet,

1924
01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,720
Speaker 1: like you want to be like, all right, rock what

1925
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: do you got here? Dude? He's entertaining as hell? What

1926
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: are we gonna say negative about him?

1927
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 2: Now? You can't. I mean, he's the man when it

1928
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 2: comes at you know, those kind of movies. I love

1929
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 2: watching him.

1930
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll have what he's having. Whatever rocket fuel he's

1931
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,960
Speaker 1: having to get that kind of body.

1932
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what kind of rocket fuel he's having.

1933
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 1: That way, that's the gas right there, that's that's.

1934
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 2: The gas all day all right?

1935
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,000
Speaker 1: That is uh, excuse me, that's a burp right there.

1936
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Excuse me, that is your fan submissions. Now we're shot.

1937
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:11,760
Speaker 1: I hope you're ready. I hope you buckle up because

1938
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: it gets a little wild in these parts. You're a

1939
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: veteran of this. Every Monday, we search the globe, the

1940
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: highs and lows for the good, the bad, the ugly,

1941
01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 1: and the in between and combat sports and we show

1942
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: what you it's called. Have you seen this ship? All right,

1943
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: let's get the let me load up to some ship.

1944
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: Were shot? Are you ready? Because you know what the

1945
01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:39,280
Speaker 1: fans say, I take it easy on you, okay, the

1946
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: fans say, I don't give you the ridiculous.

1947
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 2: Give me the ridiculous. I want to see the ridiculous.

1948
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's start in boxing. I did mention Rashie Warren,

1949
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: the former Olympian, despite just four ko's shot. Here's the

1950
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 1: highlight of him sending Damian Vasquez.

1951
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 2: Whoa, oh man, oh man, he got the stagger lead

1952
01:31:57,520 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 2: right there?

1953
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 1: The did the stanky leg that that.

1954
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:06,679
Speaker 2: That right there is uh that's called the stagger lease stance.

1955
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 2: He's just caught with the stagging, just tap dancing. That's

1956
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 2: that's bad man.

1957
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 1: Horn went after it in the spout. It's great to

1958
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: see a technician kind of become a slugger. Big time

1959
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: victory right there. Let's see that one wall.

1960
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 2: Oh man, drunk driving, drunk driving right there? You had

1961
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 2: too much drink there.

1962
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's head over to the zone and Eddie

1963
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Hern's backyard. Rashad get woke if you're not already to

1964
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 1: unbeaten light heavyweight Joshua Buwazzi. This was his toughest test

1965
01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 1: to date, and in round eleven he sent Ricardo Bolotnicks,

1966
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, recards to the to the bollocks of hell

1967
01:32:43,240 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 1: there with that right hand, good ship man.

1968
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 2: It was perfectly measured. To the way he leisured up

1969
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,080
Speaker 2: and just let it go at the man. That's a

1970
01:32:50,120 --> 01:32:53,280
Speaker 2: big right hand. See that's a big punch right there. Man,

1971
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:54,960
Speaker 2: look at it. Buddy didn't want to know. He couldn't

1972
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 2: even get it after that done It.

1973
01:32:56,840 --> 01:33:00,120
Speaker 1: Family is from okra Gana, although he was raised in

1974
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,760
Speaker 1: the uk Rashad. You know that tiny that city of

1975
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,200
Speaker 1: Akragana produces one banger of a fighter after another. And

1976
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 1: this kid, who won a silver medal at the Olympics

1977
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 1: a few years back, is looking to be the real deal,

1978
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: Josh Bwatzi. So watch that closer. Let's go to the

1979
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:19,160
Speaker 1: top rank undercard from Tulsa. Carlos Balderas delivering the boom

1980
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 1: toant man.

1981
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:25,200
Speaker 2: He was out before he hit the ground, and he

1982
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 2: almost got woke up. Oh man, oh man, all look look,

1983
01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 2: look to get up as composed as he did. I mean,

1984
01:33:35,479 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 2: that was that was impressive in itself, but dang, the.

1985
01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:42,360
Speaker 1: Heavy should finish him off. But this was the highlight

1986
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:44,600
Speaker 1: that short life took. You're right, he was. He was

1987
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 1: already hurt, so he.

1988
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 2: Was knocked out and then when he woke up, he

1989
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 2: woke up when he hit his head off the ropes.

1990
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 1: Crazy but that wasn't our best fight of the weekend, Rashad.

1991
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,000
Speaker 1: We go to the Rams Chargers preseason game for that one.

1992
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: Check out super fan number ninety nine. Here he's ready

1993
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: to take on the whole village by himself for shot.

1994
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Did you see this ship?

1995
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: No? I did not see this ship. Let's see it is.

1996
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,920
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful talking trash to a whole group

1997
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 1: of friends because you may get all all of the

1998
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: smoker shot.

1999
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a big dude too, so the big

2000
01:34:15,040 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 2: guys are usually the ones that are not the toughest,

2001
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,400
Speaker 2: so he'd be down like oh look, oh.

2002
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 1: No, oh no, he's throwing spinning backfists into a group

2003
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:27,599
Speaker 1: of friends. Now it's getting dirty. Oh man, oh boy,

2004
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna see what he's got.

2005
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 2: He's got good technique though, he's got good crowd fighting technique.

2006
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 1: Oh god, Now he talks. It's just a buffet. It's

2007
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:41,240
Speaker 1: a buffet. Everybody's getting so it's like the palace browl

2008
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: Oh my god, somebody said this guy. Geez.

2009
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 2: Wow, they're dragging about his draw.

2010
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 1: Look at the dragon that crack crack kills their fat yo. Okay,

2011
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: let's get out of here.

2012
01:34:57,680 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

2013
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 1: Good ship. All right, they say, I don't challenge you enough.

2014
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 1: So what do you see when you see this picture? Rashod?

2015
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,760
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh, it's just it's just a father

2016
01:35:10,880 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 2: kissing his daughter. It is Oh, I thought it was

2017
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:18,439
Speaker 2: somebody whoa.

2018
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 4: Whoa.

2019
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you a question. Yes, let me

2020
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 1: know those are not oh ship, I think we just

2021
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,599
Speaker 1: got canceled. Yeah, poor baby, all right, all right, yeah, hey,

2022
01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:38,840
Speaker 1: let's head on over to the high seas. Rashot. When

2023
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:42,040
Speaker 1: you got money in champagne and and bitches, you can

2024
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 1: do whatever you want. Look at this guy just living.

2025
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 2: Okay, he's got yeah, make it yeah, make it rain.

2026
01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 1: You do have to watch your footwork.

2027
01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, my god, how un accordedd can't you be?

2028
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 2: How un accordinated can you be?

2029
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: It looks like a rap video for a moment, and

2030
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 1: then it turned shit. Yeah all right, hey, we're gonna

2031
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,719
Speaker 1: place some sound on here. People hate Luke Thomas's COVID

2032
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:12,280
Speaker 1: takes about vaccines, but maybe this will change their minds.

2033
01:36:12,280 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 1: We're shot.

2034
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 2: Some of y'all are scared to get the COVID vaccine

2035
01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 2: because of what might be in it. When you know,

2036
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,799
Speaker 2: damn well, you put unwashed dick in your mouth several times.

2037
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 3: You've done that.

2038
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:28,080
Speaker 4: Several times.

2039
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: You've done that several times. I think we're shot. What

2040
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 1: I think what she's trying to say is we need

2041
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 1: to look in the mirror and address our vaccine concerns

2042
01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:46,520
Speaker 1: first before we share our opinions with others.

2043
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I mean wow, wow, unwashed dick.

2044
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, some have some gave all or shot. Yes they did.

2045
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it going here. Hey, Jake Paul

2046
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:02,760
Speaker 1: is back next weekend in a Showtime pay per view

2047
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night against Tyrone. Woodley has put out a

2048
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,639
Speaker 1: hit list. Now if we can zoom in Rashad, I'm

2049
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:14,080
Speaker 1: seeing Okay Woodley, Canelo, the Diz is Camaru, Timmy Fury.

2050
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: That's supposed to be Tommy by the way, Connor McGregor, KSI, Jervonte, Logan,

2051
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 1: Paul question Mark, I'm not seeing what sugar Rashad evans

2052
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,479
Speaker 1: on there? Can we get A'LLI to get you in

2053
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 1: the sweepstakes here? Shot?

2054
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 2: What is going on here? You know what it is

2055
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:31,599
Speaker 2: because he knows he'll get his ass what BC. Listen,

2056
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 2: you can't convince people to want to sign up for

2057
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 2: an ass whippin because he knows it. He knows, he

2058
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: knows listen, he knows this. He knows he pay people

2059
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 2: off on the list do the fight. They wait want it,

2060
01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,840
Speaker 2: but he knows. I'm not gonna take a pay I'm

2061
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 2: not gonna take a dive. And that's what they're avoided. Wow. Come,

2062
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 2: that's a bigger question.

2063
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,760
Speaker 1: Come, poor little sugar on yourself, Jake Paul in the

2064
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: name of love. All right, okay, because because Rashad still

2065
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 1: got it, you can make one eighty five or one

2066
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 1: ninety easy. You'll be looking jacked.

2067
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that the way they're fighting at one ninety?

2068
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? About that? About it one? I think it's one

2069
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 1: eighty five.

2070
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:05,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah. I can do that.

2071
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 1: All right. We metionr Nico Ali Walshot his pro debut.

2072
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: His godfather is Flavor Flavor flipping out here at the

2073
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,720
Speaker 1: UH at the weighans enjoying some Tulsa action for shot it.

2074
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: You needed, you needed a celebrity hype man in your day.

2075
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Wow, Flavor Flavor. I used to roll the flavor back

2076
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 2: in the day. Man, He'd like, woll reshot, let's get it.

2077
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,800
Speaker 2: He used to be like he used to be out there,

2078
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 2: But I mean I did need a hype man. Hype

2079
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:32,760
Speaker 2: man just makes everything because listen, if you have a

2080
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 2: good hype man, you don't got to say too much. Actually,

2081
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 2: I did have one hype man. His name was b

2082
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,080
Speaker 2: Z Hype. He came for the John Jones fight and

2083
01:38:41,400 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 2: uh he would just talk trash to John Jones and

2084
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,320
Speaker 2: an audience. Now just sit there. A hype man helps

2085
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:48,799
Speaker 2: out a lot. It's less you have to say.

2086
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: You once served as a hype man for Mike Tyson

2087
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 1: on a e W Pro wrestler. Yeah, we see that.

2088
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:55,800
Speaker 1: Come back again, all Rishat. We have a segment on

2089
01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: the show called Regional Mma where anything can happen, you know,

2090
01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: regional im made. People can parachute in from the ceiling.

2091
01:39:02,479 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Let's start at Golden Beach Cup Mma. Evgeny Carabet with

2092
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 1: this combo. It's the calfkick suplex finish. I haven't seen

2093
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 1: this in my MMA playbook lately, Luke, excuse.

2094
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 2: Me, Gosh, that was dirty. Yeah, yes, it was dirty.

2095
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 2: That was dirty. He spun him with the leg kick

2096
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:24,519
Speaker 2: and then took advantage of the position that he spun

2097
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 2: him in.

2098
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 1: You can't, I mean, yeah, wow, yeah, you want to

2099
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: get that guy through tsa fold him up into a suitcase.

2100
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: Well done there. Let's go over to uh the regional scene.

2101
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Matt Mooney escaping this ankle lock very creatively.

2102
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I see it.

2103
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, escaping the choke attempt with an ankle lock.

2104
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert. All right there we go. Okay, okay, okay,

2105
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:53,519
Speaker 1: we see it. We see you here. Yeah, he's got

2106
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 1: the choke.

2107
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:55,640
Speaker 2: You got choke. You got the choke. You got the

2108
01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 2: choke up. You cross your legs, don't ever cross your legs.

2109
01:39:58,560 --> 01:39:59,839
Speaker 2: Don't ever cross your legs.

2110
01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's the Anderson Silver chaill Son and shit right there,

2111
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 1: right rescuing victory from the jaws of defeat.

2112
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

2113
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, so what did he get him? Did he

2114
01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:11,880
Speaker 1: kind of figure for him there?

2115
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,479
Speaker 2: Yeah? So what he did was the guy crossed his

2116
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: legs in between his crotch, and because he crossed his

2117
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:19,040
Speaker 2: legs in between his crotch, he used his hit bone,

2118
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:23,680
Speaker 2: his pelvic bone, his pennis as a lever and then

2119
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,880
Speaker 2: he uses legs pull back on it.

2120
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:27,880
Speaker 1: Look at that shit? Is that what they would call

2121
01:40:27,960 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 1: white belt ship.

2122
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:32,720
Speaker 2: That's the kind of shit you get caught and you

2123
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 2: get mad as you got caught in it because you

2124
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,080
Speaker 2: don't ever cross your feet.

2125
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:40,280
Speaker 1: Let's go over to thunder Fight. Here's Nito McCary with

2126
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:44,280
Speaker 1: a superman punch off the cage. Somebody get Anthony Pettis online.

2127
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 2: One wo whoa that was thunderous. That was thunderous and faz.

2128
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:53,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you better do that in the regional scene. Nobody

2129
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 1: does that in real life on the on the pro level,

2130
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:57,439
Speaker 1: So you got to do that on the Wow.

2131
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 2: And the best part of bottle was he called buddy. Yes,

2132
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:01,679
Speaker 2: he was thrown at the same time.

2133
01:41:01,960 --> 01:41:07,440
Speaker 1: Flawless good ship right there. Let's keep it going. Patreu

2134
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Marai here in some kick pro kickboxing. Check out this

2135
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: insane spinning back kick. Oh got him, got him what.

2136
01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:22,559
Speaker 2: It didn't even hook It looked like even hooked, just

2137
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 2: in case he tried to move a ohut of it.

2138
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 1: Wow, yikes, yikes. That's some good ship, right.

2139
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 2: It looks like if we call him it look like

2140
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 2: he still might be sleep.

2141
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's spinny ship. Oh wow, that's a hail Mary

2142
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: that got caught right there. All right, I keep calling you, Luke.

2143
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: See people get very upset rashot when when Luke calls

2144
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,120
Speaker 1: UBC I call you, Luke. I'm just so used to it,

2145
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:49,880
Speaker 1: you know. All right, b Luke, here we go. Let's see.

2146
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I want you to vote. I'm gonna show you two

2147
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:54,360
Speaker 1: really bad calfkicks. Tell me which one was worse. This

2148
01:41:54,479 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: was Michael Lombardo Friday night in PFL getting a calf

2149
01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:59,440
Speaker 1: kick Ko.

2150
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 2: Vicious, Right, Vicious Vicious?

2151
01:42:03,640 --> 01:42:07,720
Speaker 1: See that one more time. Lombardo was a He was

2152
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 1: on the undercard at welterweight taking on Kyrone Bowen. Just

2153
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,880
Speaker 1: snap that thing, just chopping him right down. But that

2154
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:17,439
Speaker 1: may not have been the worst calf kick of the week.

2155
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to the farm. Let's check out this loser.

2156
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:23,240
Speaker 1: You dressed like that shot, You might get what you deserve.

2157
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

2158
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 1: Somebody telling me he's got a doogie pile on his

2159
01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: right shoulder. After I'll tell you what calf kicks they

2160
01:42:38,840 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 1: change the gamer shot.

2161
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 2: They have changed the game. Better calf cake for sure.

2162
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, you ever seen a grown man with

2163
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 1: crabs on this segment of shot? This might be a first.

2164
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,600
Speaker 1: Let's go to the videotape. All right, you gotta be

2165
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:53,080
Speaker 1: careful of this. They pulled this guy out of the water.

2166
01:42:53,120 --> 01:42:56,520
Speaker 1: Oh that's that's painful. That is painful.

2167
01:42:56,920 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 2: That's when you wait too long to go to the doctor.

2168
01:42:58,640 --> 01:42:59,320
Speaker 2: You see what happens.

2169
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:04,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Wow, you hang around the brothel long enough

2170
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 1: for a shot, you know you'll get a souvenir.

2171
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:07,719
Speaker 2: Good.

2172
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:13,160
Speaker 1: Oh boys, somebody's saying that guy. Hey, we've all been there,

2173
01:43:13,240 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 1: right Wow, soldiers filled the hotels on the wends. Anything

2174
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 1: can happen.

2175
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 2: That's great.

2176
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,680
Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, let's go over to to a wedding. I

2177
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: love weddings, for shot. It his wedding, Sason. I went

2178
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 1: to my cousins just a week ago. Check out how

2179
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:32,679
Speaker 1: fired the hell up? This bride'smaid's get to catch this thing? Rashot?

2180
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,679
Speaker 1: Oh my god, where are they serving at this wedding?

2181
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 1: I gotta check this out? Joe Cola? Yo, wow, shot.

2182
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 1: You ever been single out of wedding looking to mingle?

2183
01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,360
Speaker 1: You see this type of energy? You go after it?

2184
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,080
Speaker 2: Right? No, you run away from it because.

2185
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 1: Maybe I like a little crazy.

2186
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:59,520
Speaker 2: You run away from that energy, like like whoa she

2187
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 2: really he wants to get Like if you if you're

2188
01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 2: her guy, if you're her boyfriend and she cut that

2189
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,720
Speaker 2: bouquet and she did that, you might be like do

2190
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:08,439
Speaker 2: I really want to do this. You know what I'm saying, Like,

2191
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 2: do I really want to commit to this?

2192
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 1: Uh? They say some people were shot have a has

2193
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 1: a God complex. But this is how you know you're

2194
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 1: not Jesus, you're not the second coming of the Savior.

2195
01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 1: When you attempt to walk on water. Let's see how

2196
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,559
Speaker 1: that worked out for this guy. Watch your step there, sir.

2197
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 2: This is not good at it.

2198
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, you take those sandals off. You know we've all

2199
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: had to navigate that the channel it's gone. Yes, yeah,

2200
01:44:37,240 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 1: he's not coming back. I think that's the third down

2201
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 1: I've ever showed on this second. All right, hey, we're shot.

2202
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: I want to close with a little game every time

2203
01:44:46,840 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 1: we have you on have you seen this ship? I

2204
01:44:48,400 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 1: go on ig and I searched the hashtag for shot

2205
01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:54,080
Speaker 1: Evans and I find some weird picks. So here we go.

2206
01:44:54,439 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 1: Here's where shot Evans hanging out with the Let me bang, bro,

2207
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: what's the context behind this one? Can we zoom in?

2208
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:05,760
Speaker 2: Where are we at? Here? Where we I think it

2209
01:45:05,880 --> 01:45:09,600
Speaker 2: was at bar knuckle bare knuckle event. Yeah, we had

2210
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 2: a barre knuckle event. And you can tell it wasn't

2211
01:45:11,120 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 2: too long ago because I had the little the starter,

2212
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,719
Speaker 2: the start of locks in there, the little rat taties

2213
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:16,160
Speaker 2: in my head.

2214
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, and you and Rumble they're hanging out

2215
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,360
Speaker 1: with the with the let me is that that justin Lane?

2216
01:45:23,439 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 2: Is that the guy? Yeah? Yeah, see that. I mean

2217
01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 2: that's when I was thinking about maybe trying it out

2218
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 2: with the bare knuckle boxing. But after I watched that event,

2219
01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:31,960
Speaker 2: I was.

2220
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 1: Like, you know what, you don't want that. No, No,

2221
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 1: that's that's the that's the that's the bottom of the

2222
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 1: combat food chain.

2223
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 2: You don't want that. Yeah, you know.

2224
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Rachelle, let's keep this going. Let's be honest here,

2225
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:45,879
Speaker 1: how many of these you still got in your possession.

2226
01:45:45,960 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Let's let's let's zoom in here on some toys.

2227
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 2: I got one. I got one. I got one. That's

2228
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:55,439
Speaker 2: that's little me. My son. Now here's the funny thing

2229
01:45:55,439 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 2: about it. My son has that and he has one

2230
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:00,600
Speaker 2: of chuckle'dell. He breaks the one of me. But he

2231
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 2: loved the chuck la dell. He carried the chuckling dill

2232
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 2: around all the time.

2233
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: That no respect. They know what you did to that.

2234
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:09,760
Speaker 1: You made a tournament to dry eyes.

2235
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:12,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he loves chucklate deal I can't even show

2236
01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 2: up the Chuck Ladelle fight like he loves Chuck l'dill

2237
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 2: so much. I'm like, Chuck is the man?

2238
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: You? Oh, you think Chuck's your hero? Okay, watch what

2239
01:46:20,760 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: daddy did? Okay, Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I

2240
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 1: let him have Chuck as the hero. I don't even

2241
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:25,799
Speaker 1: I don't even.

2242
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 2: Try to do.

2243
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:27,200
Speaker 1: I love Chuck too.

2244
01:46:27,240 --> 01:46:29,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I let Chuck be it man. Chuck is

2245
01:46:29,520 --> 01:46:29,840
Speaker 2: all right?

2246
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 1: What's the context of this? It looks like you're at

2247
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 1: a party. Luke rock Hold's giving you the stink eye.

2248
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Johnny Hendrix is there? What's going on here with shod.

2249
01:46:37,320 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't want to out you.

2250
01:46:39,360 --> 01:46:41,559
Speaker 1: I don't want to get you in trouble here, rashd.

2251
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 1: What's going on here?

2252
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:44,720
Speaker 2: Up to no good? You can tell about the way

2253
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm sitting like that, sliding that drink in my mouth,

2254
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:48,720
Speaker 2: No good, no good.

2255
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:49,719
Speaker 1: That sugar.

2256
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 2: That's sugar there, that sugar right there. And if you

2257
01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:53,720
Speaker 2: see if it's Luke rock Hole though, you know it's

2258
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 2: bad news. Luke rock Hole, man.

2259
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I wonder if you stumbled upon

2260
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 1: Luke Rockold's girl by accident because every girls Luke Rockhold's girl.

2261
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 1: I just want you to know that. Okay, yeah, I

2262
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:04,880
Speaker 1: mean those are the old days. Okay, those are the

2263
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 1: old days. Put them behind us.

2264
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 2: No one's getting here. I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I

2265
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,320
Speaker 2: wasn't supposed to be at this party.

2266
01:47:11,680 --> 01:47:13,599
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm pretty sure I wasn't supposed to play

2267
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: that on this show. All right, Let's see more celebrity

2268
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 1: friends of Rashad. Here's the hot tub popping bubbly with

2269
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 1: one Phil Brooks. Yes, is he a good hang Rashad.

2270
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 2: Phil Brooks is a cool guy. Man. This is when me,

2271
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,479
Speaker 2: Phil and Luke rock Hold did Exos when the UFC

2272
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 2: were kind of working out a deal with them, and

2273
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 2: we went out there and did like four or five days,

2274
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,040
Speaker 2: like a week of training. So it was good because

2275
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 2: I just got done from knee surgery, saws fat and

2276
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 2: out of shape, so it was it was much needed.

2277
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 1: All right, for s Griffin in the house as well.

2278
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 1: Let's close with this, Rashot. I'm sure you've gotten plenty

2279
01:47:45,240 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 1: of fan art over the over the years. I found

2280
01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,880
Speaker 1: a lot of them on hashtag Rashad Evans. Here's my

2281
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: favorite fan art. I want to see this framed in

2282
01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: your house, and if we can go split screen here,

2283
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:02,920
Speaker 1: we can bring in Mike Goldberg virtually identical or shot.

2284
01:48:03,320 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: They look like, you know, I look like I look

2285
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 2: like Bovon Lewis. You know who Lewis is?

2286
01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:12,120
Speaker 1: Yes, I do. I think your Rye Hall took his

2287
01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: soul once. Yes, that is. That's not necessarily to scale.

2288
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,720
Speaker 1: We're shot. They're not doing your your forehead right.

2289
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 2: I mean the forehead is kind of large, but that

2290
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 2: just made a joint like he was things with me.

2291
01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 1: Do you have any great stories of fan art or gifts.

2292
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of I mean there's some

2293
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,280
Speaker 1: fans of ours that came up to Luke and gave

2294
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: them self made beef jerky out of a gym bag

2295
01:48:32,920 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 1: and we're like, here, eat this. So do you get

2296
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: weird stuff from fans were shot?

2297
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I get all kinds of stuff from fans.

2298
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,680
Speaker 2: Aren't much like that like you just seen. I just

2299
01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 2: take it, you know, I take it, smile or I

2300
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 2: sign it and stuff like that, because I mean, it's

2301
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 2: all love, you know what I'm saying. Even if it

2302
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:50,200
Speaker 2: doesn't flatter me like that picture, I still appreciate it.

2303
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 2: And just you know, these guys put their time into it.

2304
01:48:52,240 --> 01:48:54,280
Speaker 2: I'm an artist myself, so I like to draw.

2305
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:57,919
Speaker 1: So, oh, really you do drawings.

2306
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 2: I do drawings. Yeah, I do drawings. You.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to create a segment here where we

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Speaker 1: show some art.

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01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 2: Rash I'm gonna show you something. I'm gonna yes.

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Speaker 1: Bring that ship, let's go. I'm a big fan of

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01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: this art. All right, one day we'll do that. Okay.

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Speaker 1: We always closed the show Rashad with odds and ends

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01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:18,080
Speaker 1: on Monday. Any combat stories announcements, anything we missed, what

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01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,000
Speaker 1: has tickled your fancy this week in combat sports?

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01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:26,080
Speaker 2: Te Doo Ortez and Anderson Spider Silver are gonna do

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01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 2: a boxing match. That I mean, that to me was huge.

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01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean, but here's the thing about it. It's gonna

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01:49:33,000 --> 01:49:38,840
Speaker 2: be at one nine mm. I mean, Anderson Silva looked

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01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:42,000
Speaker 2: great against Sha Viz Junior looked like he should have

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01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 2: been boxing a long time, looked like actually like a boxer.

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01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:46,519
Speaker 2: It's gonna be going against Tee Do or T's too.

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01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 2: Or T's is not known for his hands, more of

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01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: the grappling style of wrestling. But I mean, working with

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01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 2: Jason Pirillo, you know, Tito's hands are kind of decent,

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01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 2: but at the same time, Anderson Silva's on another level,

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01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 2: and then you have t Do or T's and wait

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01:50:00,479 --> 01:50:03,880
Speaker 2: till one ninety five, Tito was massive walking around at

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01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 2: least like two thirty five, two forty. I don't know

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01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,320
Speaker 2: how he plans on making one ninety five. And then

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01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:12,719
Speaker 2: if he does make one ninety five, how even effective

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01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna be. So that's my only thing with this fight.

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01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 2: But my my main question out of everything is why

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01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 2: am I not getting a call? Man? What's going on?

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01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying? Why am I not getting called? Man?

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01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 1: Can we get the Tito trilogy online?

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01:50:25,200 --> 01:50:25,360
Speaker 2: One?

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01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 1: That head is still pretty big? It's kind of you know,

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01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,800
Speaker 1: it's a good target right there, Rashad. This will take

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01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:32,280
Speaker 1: place September eleventh, and they'll be on the Triller pay

2340
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,439
Speaker 1: per view headlined by Vitor belfour in Oscar de la Hoya.

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01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,800
Speaker 1: It's an interesting piece of theater. I just saw that

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01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,280
Speaker 1: matchup and I was like, Tito doesn't have hands, How

2343
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 1: are we gonna How is.

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01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 2: He gonna do this? Yeah? I don't I don't know

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01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 2: how it's gonna. I mean, I think it's gonna get

2346
01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna get worked pretty good. But I mean it's

2347
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 2: gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see, you know,

2348
01:50:50,680 --> 01:50:53,240
Speaker 2: But I want to see I want I don't want

2349
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:57,320
Speaker 2: to see I want to see guys fight, like I

2350
01:50:57,320 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 2: want to see a boxer fight at end the make guy.

2351
01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:00,600
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like eyes that are in

2352
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:03,880
Speaker 2: the make Ey, it's kind of like, oh no, kind

2353
01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 2: of lose it a little bit for me.

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01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'd be willing to see these two

2355
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,320
Speaker 1: fight MMA and like Belator if they want to make

2356
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,519
Speaker 1: that happen, but boxing each other, eh, I agree with you.

2357
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 1: I'd rather see Anderson Silva against like a fake boxer

2358
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:18,200
Speaker 1: or a you know, against Dala Hoya something like that,

2359
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:21,520
Speaker 1: where you're like, okay, I could talk myself into Silva

2360
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:25,840
Speaker 1: being quasi competitive here. Yeah, it's interesting right there. Al

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01:51:25,880 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 1: rashad my odds and ends takes us back to Belatoor

2362
01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 1: two sixty four. We didn't or I didn't, let me say,

2363
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,880
Speaker 1: talk a lot about this, but one of my favorite

2364
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 1: fighters in the world came back, and he came back

2365
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:39,720
Speaker 1: with a bang. Spartan andre Koreshkov, the former two time

2366
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: Bellator welterweight champion. Had a comin event duel with Saba Holmasi,

2367
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,400
Speaker 1: and after a bit of a slow start in that

2368
01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 1: first round, two years removed from his last Bellator fight,

2369
01:51:51,439 --> 01:51:54,200
Speaker 1: koresh Kov put it on him. It was a ground

2370
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 1: and pound wrestling mauling over the last two rounds. Took

2371
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:02,400
Speaker 1: a wide unanimous decision. This guy, when he's on Rashad,

2372
01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:04,719
Speaker 1: we've seen him in the past, right at the trilogy

2373
01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:07,839
Speaker 1: with Douglas Sliema, like he's been in some great fights.

2374
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,320
Speaker 1: Lost very early in his career to Ben Askrin, but

2375
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 1: came back, retooled, became a champion. I had almost forgot

2376
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 1: this guy ever existed. He had a low profile comeback

2377
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 1: fight last year for a Russian promotion, but it's been

2378
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 1: two years since we saw him in the cage. I

2379
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:26,560
Speaker 1: thought this performance against Tomasi was so strong that you

2380
01:52:26,680 --> 01:52:28,679
Speaker 1: got to kind of parachute him back into the top

2381
01:52:28,720 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 1: five of the Belator welterweight rankings. Did you get the

2382
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,600
Speaker 1: feeling like if this is who Korishkov is, and I

2383
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: think he's only what like thirty two, He's not not

2384
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,599
Speaker 1: too too far done here. He could be a problem

2385
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,960
Speaker 1: for Yaroslav Amasov. This could be some great booking in

2386
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 1: the future.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I think he looked phenomenal in this fight.

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01:52:47,120 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 2: Everything about his whole style was great on Saturday, I'm

2389
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 2: on Friday. You know, his knowying win to strike, his

2390
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:58,479
Speaker 2: knowing winner and poses wrestling, did the shot, the punch election,

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01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 2: the striking selection that he chose was on point. I mean,

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01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,160
Speaker 2: he just looked as if like he didn't miss a beat.

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01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 2: He actually looked as if he got a lot better.

2394
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:07,840
Speaker 2: You know, in the times where you've seen Sabah kind

2395
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 2: of surgeon a little bit. It was interesting to see

2396
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,280
Speaker 2: how he handled that and he weathered it pretty well,

2397
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 2: was able to get back to the positions that you

2398
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 2: had him had in his fight and just really just

2399
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:21,360
Speaker 2: cruised to a really pretty comfortable decision. But it wasn't

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01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,799
Speaker 2: one of those fights where you seen him letting off gas.

2401
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 2: He put the pressure all the way through. Hats off

2402
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:30,000
Speaker 2: the Sabah who really made it a competitive fight and

2403
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: made it a fun fight to watch because no matter

2404
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: how much he was getting his ass, but he still

2405
01:53:34,080 --> 01:53:37,759
Speaker 2: came back just enough where it made it so interesting

2406
01:53:37,800 --> 01:53:39,200
Speaker 2: to see what was going to happen in the end.

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01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he pulled out a strong performance out of

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01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: Koreshkov by constantly pushing him like you said and dead

2409
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 1: wrong myself. Kresh Call is only thirty and I remember

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01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,080
Speaker 1: he had lost that split decision to Lorenz Larkin and

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01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 1: he kind of went away for a while. I think

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01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 1: there was an injury involved. But so he's got Alexander

2413
01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,479
Speaker 1: Schlamenko in his corner and he looks to be back

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01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 1: at it. And I always loved this guy because he

2415
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:02,479
Speaker 1: just smashes man. He just goes in there and and

2416
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 1: looks to grind you out and smash you out of there.

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01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 1: And considering Amasov's wrestling advantage over most opponents, that could

2418
01:54:09,840 --> 01:54:13,479
Speaker 1: be a very interesting matchup. So more to come in

2419
01:54:13,520 --> 01:54:15,960
Speaker 1: the future of the Bellatour welter Way Top five, which

2420
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:19,479
Speaker 1: also has Logan story. We're gonna see Douglas Lima against

2421
01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:22,519
Speaker 1: MVP in a rematch. So some big business at one

2422
01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,320
Speaker 1: seventy for Bellatour Rashad that will wrap up our show

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01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 1: for the week. No, Luke Thomas will be off this week,

2424
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,639
Speaker 1: but you'll be seeing Rashad again. I think I'm gonna

2425
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: slide in another special guest. Also gonna reunite my boy

2426
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,560
Speaker 1: Raf Bartholomew and myself in the boxing hardcore is and

2427
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 1: take a real deep dive on all things pachiao ugas

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01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: this week, so look out for that. I may even

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01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,320
Speaker 1: f around and take Luke's live chat chair on Thursday

2430
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:48,320
Speaker 1: and see what I can do there. But Rashad, great,

2431
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:52,200
Speaker 1: catching up with you going up and down. Where can

2432
01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: we see you again? Maybe on an ESPN broadcast, Maybe

2433
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: you got a set coming up at the comedy store

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01:54:57,960 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: where we're gonna see you again? U.

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01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you'll see me here, You'll see me here.

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01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:04,720
Speaker 2: I just begin focusing on, you know, just on whatever

2437
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 2: I need to focus on, just locally here. Been doing

2438
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,440
Speaker 2: a lot of training. I'm trying to get a team going,

2439
01:55:09,880 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 2: you know, really focusing on my team, just kind of

2440
01:55:12,200 --> 01:55:15,840
Speaker 2: expanding myself in that compartment. But I'm around.

2441
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,280
Speaker 1: Will you be a trainer, a full time MMA trainer

2442
01:55:18,280 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: one day?

2443
01:55:19,120 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking. I'm looking to do so. I'm looking

2444
01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:22,920
Speaker 2: to do so right now. I'm looking at a couple

2445
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 2: options right now with some gyms and really just kind

2446
01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 2: of figuring out, you know, how much I really want

2447
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 2: to dive into that. But I've I've I've got it

2448
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 2: mapped out where I'm able to, you know, give some

2449
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 2: dedication to that and still be able to do all

2450
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,040
Speaker 2: the things that all the other things that I have

2451
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 2: going on as well too, So pretty exciting.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff. Follow us on the socials below. Make sure

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Speaker 1: Thanks for the love and the support and the prayers

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Speaker 1: excuse me, and yeah man, thank you to our fans.

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Speaker 1: Next week we take the show on the road Cleveland, Ohio, Baby,

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Speaker 1: All Things Jake, Paul Tyron Woodley Rashot. I know you

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01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:36,960
Speaker 1: got to be a little excited about that fight.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, listen watching the Countdown show. They did

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01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:44,040
Speaker 2: such a good job at the Countdown show. I'm so

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01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 2: excited about this fight. I can't wait. And I'm kind

2473
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:48,240
Speaker 2: of like on the fence. I don't know who's gonna win.

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01:56:48,360 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: It's just it's very exciting.

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01:56:51,320 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 1: You know. Look, I don't need to tell you what

2476
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 1: to do with your life, but you want to show

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01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:58,280
Speaker 1: up there, right, wear a T shirt that says, you know,

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01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,360
Speaker 1: F the Paul's right. You know what I'm saying. Have

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01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 1: one in your bag that says F Woodley just in

2480
01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: case because it's going to be a brawl. But no,

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01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:08,640
Speaker 1: I think this will be a very fun fight. And look,

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01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:12,360
Speaker 1: it's down the lane of celebrity circuits boxing, but it's

2483
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:14,280
Speaker 1: got you guys who were taking it serious though, and

2484
01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,760
Speaker 1: who are seriously coming in there to get the KO.

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01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,200
Speaker 1: So it should be very fun. That All Access is live,

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01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: by the way, check that out that first episode. Very

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01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 1: good stuff. And inside the look, do you believe Jake

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01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 1: Paul's mom when she's like, my son's just playing a character.

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01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: He's just an actor.

2490
01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:34,440
Speaker 2: No, he's an asshole. In real life.

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01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 1: You can't play douche that well. Believe me, I've done it. Okay,

2492
01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for years, all right. For the

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01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 1: great Rashad Evans, for our folks at Malco, CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: and Showtime, Corey minichkaff Pierre on the ones and twos.

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01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, gentlemen. That's it. So Luke Thomas

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Speaker 1: is healthy and happy and sound. He'll have a few

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01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,640
Speaker 1: days off, but he'll be back in the future. Next

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Speaker 1: week's big. This week we do have some great fights

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Speaker 1: pack yet who got some more? So we'll be with

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Speaker 1: you all week. Check us out until n I MBC

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Speaker 1: giving you two words Rashot hit him with it.

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Speaker 2: We out