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Speaker 2: Welcome into a tgiff thank God his football Friday edition

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Speaker 2: of Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. John Harrison,

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Speaker 2: Mark Vandermir with you on this wonderful Friday. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: it's probably one hundred degrees wherever you are at six

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Speaker 2: o'clock at night in Houston, and it is hitting like

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Speaker 2: this in a lot of places. I was reading article

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Speaker 2: in New York Times mark it was one hundred and fourteen,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fourteen in Phoenix on Monday.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, one hundred and fourteen. Isn't it always though this

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Speaker 3: time of year.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's hotter than it's hotter than it's ever been. Apparently

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Speaker 2: in Phoenix it's been hotter for a longer stretch, for

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Speaker 2: the most days in history of Arizona or Phoenix, or

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Speaker 2: whatever the case might be.

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Speaker 1: It's hot.

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Speaker 2: So y'all stay cool and stay cool. Listen it to

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Speaker 2: us later in the show. We have got some great sound.

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Speaker 2: I mean great sound, and I'm not saying it's great

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Speaker 2: just because I went and got it, but big twelve

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Speaker 2: media days, I turned it into a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a Houston Texans fact finding mission. So we're gonna learn

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Speaker 2: a little bit more about Dylan Horton a little bit more,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna learn that through the eyes of defenders

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Speaker 2: he played with last year, safety Bud Clark, cornerback Josh Newton,

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Speaker 2: linebacker Jamoy Hodge. We're also going to learn a little

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Speaker 2: bit more about Jalen Peatrie through the eyes of Dave A. Rand, A,

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Speaker 2: head coach of Baylor University. Also Tank Dell through the

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Speaker 2: I want to say red bull, he didn't.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of fired up, so he probably had

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Speaker 1: a red bull in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Dana Horrison is gonna give us a little bit of that,

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna find out a little bit more about c. J. Stroud,

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Speaker 2: Will Anderson, Tank Dell, and Amiko Ryance through the eyes

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Speaker 2: of are you be the most successful and best college

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Speaker 2: football writer in the country?

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Speaker 1: From the athletic Bruce Feldman.

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Speaker 2: Uh, and maybe a cameo I should say, maybe there

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Speaker 2: is a cameo.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: There's a little bit of David Anderson getting dragged through

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Speaker 1: the mud on this one.

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Speaker 2: So so that's always good because Da still ows me

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Speaker 2: at Texans eighty nine Jersey, he still ows me one

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Speaker 2: from like ten years ago, So he better pay up,

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Speaker 2: So hopefully this interview will will convince him to do that.

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Speaker 2: So he catches a few strays in that interview with

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Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman. But we'll do all that in a little while.

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Speaker 2: But Mark, we got a couple of things to hit.

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Speaker 2: It's that time of year where they're they're a listening.

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Speaker 2: They're two top ten lists that came out. One Jeremy

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Speaker 2: Fowler has been working on this for ESPN, the top

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Speaker 2: ten running backs in the NFL. And then he's got

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Speaker 2: some honorable mention and that's key for.

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Speaker 1: A Texan.

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Speaker 2: It was nice to see a Texan get honorable mention

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Speaker 2: here in the running back We know it's Damian Pierce,

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Speaker 2: but top ten running backs this year?

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Speaker 1: How many of these guys will we face?

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Speaker 2: Browns Nick Chubb yes, Niners, Christian McCaffrey, no Raiders, Josh Jacobs,

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Speaker 2: no Giants. Saquon Barkley at four. No, and it does

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Speaker 2: sound like they're gonna deal done, so good for Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Titans Derek Henry at five, see him twice. Coach Jonathan

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Speaker 2: Taylor will see him twice. Saints Alvin Kamara at seven,

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Speaker 2: we'll see him. Dalvin Cook.

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Speaker 1: We have no idea.

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Speaker 2: We don't know where Dalvin Cook's gonna go. Could be

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard at nine and Chargers Austin Eckler at ten.

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Speaker 2: Honorable mentions Aaron Jones, Packers, Brisault, Jets, Traves, etn Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: Romadris Stevens and Patriots, Seahawks, Ken Walker and Damian Pierce

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Speaker 2: of the Texans gets an honorable mentioned naming in there.

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Speaker 2: All four AFC South running backs mentioned in those top

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Speaker 2: sixteen mark. This is running back you as you called it.

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Speaker 1: It is running back you.

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Speaker 3: This division is the running back division and I like

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Speaker 3: that about it.

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Speaker 1: It makes it interesting.

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Speaker 3: And we'll see if this division can become the quarterback

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Speaker 1: Maybe it does that, maybe it doesn't. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Was Miles Sanders on that list that I miss him?

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Speaker 3: Miles Sanders was not well, why not put him on

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Speaker 2: He was fifth in the league in rushing last year.

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Speaker 2: I think probably because he changed teams and I'm totally sure.

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Speaker 2: So this was done by executives, players, coaches, and scouts.

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Speaker 2: So you know, maybe a thought that Miles Sanders what

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Speaker 2: was exactly the straw sturn a drink in Philly.

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Speaker 2: I'd think in Carolina. I think in Carolina's gonna be

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Speaker 1: So yeah, good one.

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Speaker 2: I said my beef quote unquote, I love Austin Eckler,

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Speaker 2: So I'll say that and make that qualifying statement right

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Speaker 2: up front. I love Austin Eckler. He's everything you want

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Speaker 2: NFL player. Undrafted free agent Rose Up got playing time,

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Speaker 2: made the most of it. Thought he might go somewhere

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Speaker 2: else this offseason, wasn't too happy with his contract, but

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Speaker 2: he ended up going back to the Chargers. All six

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Speaker 2: that group honerable mention is really really good with a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Derek Henry had a down year with fifteen

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Speaker 1: Geez, down year. Yeah, what a down year for him?

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Speaker 1: My gosh, how many terrible know this?

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Speaker 2: How many fifteen hundred plus seasons have Texans running backs

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Speaker 3: That's gotta be it. That's the only one that's got

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Speaker 3: that's a ridiculous amount of yards, right, yeah, it is,

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Speaker 3: averaging almost one hundred per game. Arian's the only guy

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Speaker 1: One thousand yard seasons. But that was it.

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Speaker 3: And we were talking about this last week, Johnny or

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Speaker 3: knowing who certain players are. You know, people in business operations.

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Speaker 4: I was talking.

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Speaker 1: I get who I was.

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Speaker 3: Talking to about Dominic Davis and how good he was

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Speaker 3: and how he is an underrated player in this franchise's history.

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Speaker 3: Love to have a guy like that back, but I

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Speaker 3: think you kind of have that with Devin Singletary and

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Speaker 3: Damian Pierce in the one two punch Whoever's won.

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Speaker 1: Who is ever two?

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Speaker 3: And I think different games are going to see different

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Speaker 3: guys lead this team in rushing, but Pierce, for the

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Speaker 3: most part, will more often than not he's going to

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Speaker 3: be her bell cow, and Singletary could fill in. But

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Speaker 3: the thing is this, Piers could really be productive, and Singletary.

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Speaker 1: Could have a game or two where he just explodes.

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Speaker 3: He has a sixty yard run or whatever, and it

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Speaker 3: eclipses the peers total for that afternoon. Who cares as

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Speaker 3: long as you get the job done. So that running

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Speaker 3: doesn't really apply to anything we talk about this year,

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Speaker 3: but that is not easy to replace that kind of

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Speaker 3: the attention that the defense has to pay to jail

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Speaker 3: and Hurts and what he's going to do with the football.

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Speaker 3: But twelve hundred plus yards is nothing to sneeze at

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Speaker 3: top five in the league. Good luck replacing that, Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they'll they'll find a way. It's Philadelphia. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they started with Jalen Hurts and they went and got

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Speaker 2: Rashod Penny. That was one of the pieces we were

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Speaker 2: talking I was talking about that with McLain. Maybe you

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Speaker 2: and I were talking about this a little bit last

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Speaker 2: night the play callers, And it was interesting listen to

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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel because he said one of the wrinkles that

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Speaker 2: He just goes, Rashod Penny. I'm like, what does you

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Speaker 2: shot Penny have to do with this? And he said

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Speaker 2: they were studying running backs. I guess when he was

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Speaker 2: with San Francisco. Yeah, and they were studying Rashot Penny,

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Speaker 2: and San Diego State apparently was using Rashod Penny on

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Speaker 2: this particular play scheme. And as McDaniel is watching for

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Speaker 2: he is, he sees them run this play. He likes it.

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Speaker 2: He then adds that to their offense and they've been running.

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Speaker 2: They've been running ever since and it's been a huge

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna think about that. But Rashot Penny added

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Speaker 1: So there it has to be.

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Speaker 2: Saying that they I don't want to say that they've

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Speaker 2: they're on the glow up, but I think they kind

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Speaker 1: With Jalen Hurts, I could that could be nasty.

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Speaker 2: I want to see teams use two running backs like

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Speaker 2: I want to see the Texans. I want to see

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Speaker 2: Bobby Slowick use Singletary and Pierced together. You can't do

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Speaker 2: it one hundred percent of the time, Beau, then it

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Speaker 2: defeats the purpose of having two running backs.

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Speaker 1: You know, you want to keep one of them fresh

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Speaker 2: But I do want to see a situation and see

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Speaker 2: situations when you use both of them at the same time,

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Speaker 2: and you can, and I think you can. I think

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Speaker 2: want to see that as kind of a wrinkle you

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Speaker 1: The take it off the field is the question? Because

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Speaker 1: I take a receiver off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you could, because and I heard the

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Speaker 3: guys in the afternoon, I don't know one of the

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Speaker 3: shows on six ' ten talking about Tank Dell and

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Speaker 3: will he be on the field all the time? Is

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Speaker 3: often is tak Deele on the field? And I think

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Speaker 3: it's a good question. We don't know the answers to

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Speaker 3: these things yet. I think they're going to do a

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Speaker 3: lot of substituting. The forty nine ers do that. They're

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Speaker 3: depending on what they're facing. Defensively, they want to be

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Speaker 3: able to short pass it and get some yack. But

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Speaker 3: back to Philly here for a moment, because I can't

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Speaker 3: get off this thing, this Miles Sanders thing. Not that

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Speaker 3: he's the greatest back ever, but you add Swift, you

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Speaker 3: add Penny. Neither of those guys has had the huge

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Speaker 3: kind of campaign that Sanders had last year. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: It's going to be Richardson because the owner insists on it.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you brought up Shane Stikeen because his

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Speaker 1: Give it a year. Well, he's got no body of work, right.

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Speaker 2: One of the things about offensive coordinators in the NFL

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Speaker 2: I respect Sam. I think I think he knows the game.

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Speaker 1: Now, that's at least breaking in a new guy sort.

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Speaker 2: Of, right, Brian Johnson will be the offense coordinator for

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Speaker 1: He might not. We don't know for sure, but we're

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Speaker 2: Them a little bit. It's a little surprising. Number two

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Speaker 2: is Kellen Moore the Chargers. He's got years of being

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Speaker 2: I think that could be a tremendous marriage. Sure, I

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Number three top ten offensive coordinators per Sam monson the PFFF.

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Speaker 2: Buckle up, Mark, Bill O'Brien, New England Patriots.

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Speaker 3: See, I knew this was coming, so I'm ready for it, Johnny,

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Speaker 3: all right, So O'Brien here, Now, he was and he

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Speaker 3: wasn't the offensive coordinator, but he was the offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: Let's just be honest here.

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Speaker 3: I don't care if it was George Godsea or Tim Keller, whoever.

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Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien was the offensive coordinator. Yes, and I think

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Speaker 3: Bill's a really good coach. We won't get into the

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Speaker 3: general managerial stuff. We don't need to get into that.

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Speaker 3: The late in his time here, transactions, I don't want

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Speaker 1: Let's just talk about production.

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Speaker 3: He won a lot of games, and he won more

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Speaker 1: You win more than you lose in this league.

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Speaker 3: You're doing a good job, and I'm always grateful to

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Speaker 1: You have Wes Welker. You have a lot of weapons.

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Speaker 3: He's not working with that cast of characters now, not

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Speaker 1: I would still rank him pretty high.

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Speaker 2: Johnny, Oh yeah, I'm gonna read you, but I don't

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Speaker 1: I think he would sit here and say I don't

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Speaker 2: I gotta do it for I think you're right. Number

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Speaker 2: He took mcvey's offense, tweaked it, help make Geno Smith.

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Speaker 1: He turned Geno Smith into a probole ridiculously good job.

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Speaker 2: There was talk about Russell, you know, Russell Wilson Leve,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad they put him up there because he's take

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Speaker 1: Number six Eric b Enemy Washington.

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Speaker 3: See this is is it with Washington or are we

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Speaker 1: He with a question mark did that's a chief.

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Speaker 3: Naggy's high water mark in Chicago ninth and twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: Now he's taken.

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Speaker 2: Over a completely different, offensively built team. At Georgia, they

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Speaker 2: be questioning like, hey, wait a second. You got one

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Speaker 2: we've ever seen in this league. Why are you not

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Speaker 1: But he's at seven, he's seventh, so high.

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Speaker 1: PFF ranking ocs. Go ahead, here's where it goes to.

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Speaker 2: It completely different at nine and ten, All right, Number

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Speaker 2: nine is Indianapolis Colts offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter and

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer. Isn't macarthy gonna call

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Speaker 2: He is, But Schottenheimer has been an absolute disaster wherever

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Speaker 2: he was the offensive coordinator, but he was on the stack.

437
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Speaker 2: He was the passing game coordinator. In twenty twenty one, Yeah,

438
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Speaker 2: with Trevor Lawrence's rookie Lawrence. He was also the offensive

439
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 2: coordinator for Russell Wilson eighteen, nineteen and twenty, and Wilson

440
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Speaker 2: completely cratered in twenty twenty.

441
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Speaker 3: That revived his career because he was with the Colts

442
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks coach in sixteen and seventeen, but being able to

443
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Speaker 3: be with the Seahawks.

444
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Speaker 1: Actually it didn't really help him, but jet.

445
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Speaker 2: He was back with Rex Ryan and the Jets for

446
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Speaker 2: six years offensive coordinator. They didn't do anything. He went

447
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Speaker 2: to the Rams for three years offense coordinator. They didn't

448
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 2: do anything. He's back in the league with the Colts.

449
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 2: Then he got the offensive coordinator job with the Seahawks.

450
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Speaker 2: He ran the ball and he had half a season

451
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Speaker 2: of Russell let Russ cook. He let him cook, and

452
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Speaker 2: then things changed and he kind of went back to

453
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Speaker 2: what Schatdaheimer's always been. I think he is average at

454
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Speaker 2: best as an offensive coordinator. When I saw that, that's

455
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Speaker 2: what I'm like, You're gonna put Shatahammer on there, and

456
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna put Slowick.

457
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Speaker 1: I get that Bobby's never been in OC, but.

458
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Speaker 2: Then again, some of these other guys on this list,

459
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Speaker 2: I don't.

460
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Speaker 3: Know I was talking to some Cowboy fans. They are

461
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Speaker 3: so down on the situation there in that leadership. Because

462
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Speaker 3: it's not that McCarthy's the worst head coach ever.

463
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Speaker 1: He's won a lot of games, Johnny. He certainly has

464
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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. Like I said, you shouldn't have let

465
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore leave the building.

466
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Speaker 2: That one to me, that baffles me. And look, behind

467
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: the scenes, you never how things go. Maybe behind the scene,

468
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, Kellen and Mike just did see and

469
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Speaker 2: maybe that's what it is. And the guy's the head coach,

470
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Speaker 2: he's got to make that a call.

471
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Speaker 1: Okay. But if I'm Jerry, I step in and go,

472
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Speaker 1: who whoa, whoa, whoa whoa? Yeah, where's the young whoa?

473
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Speaker 1: See here? All right?

474
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: With the Houston Texans, different situation. We don't know how

475
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,880
Speaker 3: good slow it's gonna be. But I like buying this

476
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Speaker 3: stock at this price because I think that I know

477
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 3: he's smart. I know he is and now you want

478
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Speaker 3: to see him operate. Obviously, we've seen the OTA part

479
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Speaker 3: of things. We're going to see the training camp part

480
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 3: of things. What really happens between the lines during the

481
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 3: season is what counts. But I'm eager to see it.

482
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 3: I'm here for it, and I like that you have

483
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Speaker 3: young leadership here, relatively young leadership here, with innovative ideas,

484
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Speaker 3: new ideas using some of the older system and we

485
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Speaker 3: don't know what it's going to look like, but I'm

486
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 3: excited about it. If you're a Cowboy fan, you know

487
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: you have some good personnel, right. I know they have

488
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Speaker 3: some people to replace Dalton Schultz. I know they have

489
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Speaker 3: some people to replace, but they do like they have

490
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Speaker 3: some assets. Okay, they've won a lot of games last

491
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Speaker 3: couple of years, but really, where's the future and where's

492
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Speaker 3: the innovation and excitement, particularly on the offensive side of

493
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Speaker 3: the ball.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look here. I think you see that here.

495
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Speaker 2: You definitely see that here in Houston, and I think

496
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Speaker 2: it's been a little while since we've had that, and

497
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Speaker 2: I think we have that for sure. And we've also

498
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Speaker 2: got some young dudes that can play. Let's hear from players, coaches,

499
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Speaker 2: media that have been around. Dylan Horton that have been around.

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Speaker 1: CJ.

501
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Speaker 2: Stroud and Will Anderson, Tank Dell and Jalen Peatree. We'll

502
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Speaker 2: talk about all of them next right here on Texans

503
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Speaker 2: All Access.

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Speaker 1: What is happening?

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Welcome back, to a Friday edition of Texans All

506
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Speaker 2: Access with me your host, John Harris, football analyst, Sababin reporter,

507
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Speaker 2: and I was lucky enough to head up to Arlington,

508
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Speaker 2: Texas Big twel media day was media days Wednesday and Thursday.

509
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Speaker 1: I went up for Wednesday.

510
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Speaker 2: Figured out you had a lot of the stuff that

511
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Speaker 2: needed to get done on Wednesday. So I went up

512
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Speaker 2: for Wednesday, and man, I'm so glad that I did,

513
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: because the teams that were showing up on Wednesday had

514
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Speaker 2: a lot of ties to our Texans.

515
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: TCU was gonna be there, Houston was there, and.

516
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Speaker 2: Figured, man, I could get and Baylor was there, so

517
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Speaker 2: I figured I'd get some good stuff.

518
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Speaker 1: And then I ran into Bruce Feldman too, and so

519
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Speaker 1: I was good.

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Speaker 2: So we're gonna have all that right here and start

521
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Speaker 2: with my conversation with TCU horn Frogs. But Clark, Josh Newton,

522
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Speaker 2: and Jamoi Hodge talking about Dylan Horton, the fourth round

523
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Speaker 2: pick the Texans made of the TCU horn frog. Star

524
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Speaker 2: used to be a safety, then he transferred to TCU.

525
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: He ended up growing into his two hundred and sixty

526
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Speaker 2: five hundred and seventy pound body, and now, yeah, he's

527
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Speaker 2: a defensive lineman.

528
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Speaker 1: But these guys had some good stuff. Take to listen.

529
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Speaker 2: But Clark, Josh Duden, Jamoy Hodge from TCU talking about

530
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Speaker 2: Dylan Horton.

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Speaker 1: I'm standing with a guy that made his name and.

532
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Speaker 5: The defense following after him because he started it all

533
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Speaker 5: off right out of d line. So having having him

534
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Speaker 5: was very positive. He's always positive about things.

535
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Speaker 4: But we would if we.

536
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Speaker 5: Were wrong, he'll tell us about it. So that's pretty

537
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Speaker 5: good about him. Then, like Houston Texas, are they get

538
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 5: an absolutely dog you understanding me? Like he's gonna like

539
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Speaker 5: even a dog on in off the field pretty much,

540
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Speaker 5: you know.

541
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Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

542
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Speaker 5: Like, so it's gonna be like he's great off the

543
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Speaker 5: field and on the field.

544
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Speaker 1: So he does stuff like, uh, he'll probably.

545
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Speaker 5: Go help kids just because do different stuff like that,

546
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 5: like charity is different things like that. So he has

547
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Speaker 5: a great heart behind him. He's a very outspoken man

548
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Speaker 5: and someone that.

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Speaker 1: I really look up to as a safety.

550
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Speaker 2: Did he ever talk to you about his safety days,

551
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Speaker 2: the fact that he used to be a safety and

552
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Speaker 2: then turned into alignment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he told me, Like he told me when I

554
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Speaker 5: first round out. I was like, bro Dee Horton ain't

555
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Speaker 5: no way, no way, There's no way, And yeah he

556
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Speaker 5: told me, he was like, yeah, bro, you might as

557
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Speaker 5: well come out.

558
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Speaker 1: I thought you might as well come back to safety.

559
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Speaker 1: Come back, go ahead, deal, let's get it done. You

560
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,719
Speaker 1: guys have a magical season.

561
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Speaker 2: Obviously, you make big plays throughout the year, you have

562
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Speaker 2: big games throughout the year, and Dylan was obviously a big,

563
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: big part of that. And in the CFP champion or semifinal,

564
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: you have the pick six, but he has four sacks.

565
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Speaker 1: Is that the best you had seen him play?

566
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the absolute best. I like, I love watching

567
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Speaker 5: Dee Hordon play, but like seeing him playing in the

568
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Speaker 5: Michigan game is very much different.

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Speaker 1: He went, yeah, absolutely, berserk. He's great in Houston. Hopefully

570
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Speaker 1: he'll be great for the Houston Texans. And maybe one

571
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Speaker 1: day Bud Clark will be in Houston.

572
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Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see what's his experience like here in Big

573
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Speaker 2: twelve D days and it's just kicking off for you

574
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Speaker 2: would select to be here and see all that's.

575
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Speaker 5: Going on, it's pretty exciting, pretty exciting, you know, cause

576
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Speaker 5: I'm doing representation for my team and I feel like

577
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Speaker 5: it's pretty great to represent my team.

578
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Speaker 1: But I appreciate thank you, Yes, sir, I appreciate you.

579
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Speaker 1: All right, I excided to roll over here to the

580
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Speaker 1: TCU party.

581
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Speaker 2: I know they brought a few defensive guys that have

582
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Speaker 2: been aroun Are Dylan Horton? All right, Josh, I want

583
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Speaker 2: you to tell me what about Dylan Horton makes him special?

584
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Speaker 2: What do you think the Texans are getting in Dylan Horton.

585
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Speaker 1: They're getting a very hard worker.

586
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Speaker 6: He really not outspoken type of guy, but you know

587
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 6: he gonna be ready for He's gonna be prepared on

588
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 6: Sundays for sure.

589
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming to the Texans obviously coming off one of

590
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Speaker 2: the great games ever that he had. How much did

591
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Speaker 2: he lead your defense in that game against Michigan?

592
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Speaker 1: He led in a tremendous way and it was mostly

593
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Speaker 1: all action.

594
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 2: He was all action to Well, you play behind him,

595
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: so he makes life for you a little bit easier.

596
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Speaker 1: What was he like playing with for Dylan Horton?

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Speaker 6: Behind Dylan Horton, it was actually pretty great, great experience,

598
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Speaker 6: especially how athletic he is For a d N. He's

599
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Speaker 6: so fast and athletic, can ben in the corner and

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Speaker 6: get to the quarterback and then He also a little

601
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Speaker 6: people don't know as much credit as he do out

602
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Speaker 6: and see him hold a guard and attackle and be

603
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Speaker 6: able to free me up and me let me able

604
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Speaker 6: to run through gaps and stuff and scrape over the top.

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Speaker 4: So he very great player.

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Speaker 1: You think you can be an inside and outside guy.

607
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: It could play inside maybe on past rushdowns, get outside

608
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Speaker 2: on pahrushdowns.

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Speaker 1: How do you think he fits for us with the

610
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Speaker 1: Houston Texas.

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Speaker 6: I think he can do both. Whichever the team need

612
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Speaker 6: him to do. He'd that type of player or whatever

613
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 6: whatever y'all tell him to do. He gonna do his

614
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 6: job regardless, no matter what the circumstance is.

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, I appreciate it. Thank you you Wilholm.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate the Horton Frogs for joining me to talk a

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00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: little bit about Dylan Horton. All Right, Cougar's gotten into

618
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Speaker 2: the Big twelve, the Houston Cougars.

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Speaker 1: They are led by Dana Holgerson. I've known Dana for

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Speaker 1: a long time.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He coached with a great friend of mine, Berdie Ackerman

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Speaker 1: a Valt Austin State. So I know.

624
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Speaker 2: Danum for a long long time, and I asked him,

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Speaker 2: I can get a couple of minutes on Tank Dell

626
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Speaker 2: and there's some good stuff from Dana Holgerson, head coach,

627
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Speaker 2: University of Houston. All Right, bit twelve media days hanging

628
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Speaker 2: with the Man, the myth, the legend.

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Speaker 1: Dana Holgerson.

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Speaker 2: Dana, two years ago, prior to your game against Texas Tech,

631
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Speaker 2: he told me one thing that never left me. He said,

632
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Speaker 2: Tank Dell is the most electrifying player you ever coached.

633
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Speaker 2: Two years of coaching him, he still believed that.

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Speaker 4: I think he's three.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I probably believe it even more if that's I

636
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 7: don't remember saying that to you, you know, but just

637
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Speaker 7: watching what he's done over the last two seasons is

638
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 7: just it's it's unbelievable. I mean, the dude you can't cover.

639
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,239
Speaker 7: You know, he's just so quick and explosive. You know,

640
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 7: he's his nickname's Tank because he's tough.

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Speaker 1: He never missed a practice.

642
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Speaker 7: He's just got unbelievable sense of not getting hit. So

643
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Speaker 7: whether it's college, I understand the difference in college and NFL,

644
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 7: but I think you have immediate success because of his

645
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 7: ability to be able to get open and separate and

646
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Speaker 7: stay out of harm's way by not getting hit.

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Speaker 2: It felt like when you watch him on a field,

648
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Speaker 2: he was playing at a different rate of speed than

649
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Speaker 2: everybody else. When I saw of the senior boy, feel

650
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Speaker 2: like he's moving at a different rate than everybody else.

651
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Speaker 2: Both in the return game is well, how much a

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Speaker 2: part is that you think of tanks game going to

653
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Speaker 2: the NFL and how do you think that manifests himself

654
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Speaker 2: with the Texas well?

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Speaker 7: And the return thing is all about like not getting

656
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Speaker 7: hit right, So you know, making good decisions in the

657
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 7: return game, especially in the punt return game, is critical.

658
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: You know, he.

659
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 7: Didn't have the stats based on the fact that Marcus

660
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 7: Jones was that guy for two years. Well, Marcus Jones

661
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 7: did it in the NFL his first year with the

662
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 7: Patriots at a very high level, and so you know,

663
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 7: Tank was really only the guy one year had four

664
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 7: returns for touchdowns, three of them got called back. You know,

665
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 7: so he didn't get the stats of the accolades based

666
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 7: on a variety of things, but he's definitely got those capabilities.

667
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: Coach, I know you got to go. I appreciate you, Tom,

668
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: thank you brother. All right, thank you man. Excellent stuff

669
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: there with Dana Holgerson.

670
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: I got a feeling there'll be one day out of

671
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: training camp that we'll get a chance to catch up

672
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: with coach again. He always makes his way out there

673
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: for at least one day during training camp, so it's

674
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: always good to see his career coaching staff and Dana

675
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 2: out there support of Texas. And I know he'll be

676
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: sporting this guy number thirteen, Tank Dell.

677
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: All Right.

678
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: Another guy that I ran into a short time after

679
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: that is guy known and got to know a little bit.

680
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: He's arguably the best college football writer there is from

681
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: the Athletic Bruce Feldman. And when I saw him he

682
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: was talking to another report. I thought, boy, I think

683
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: I could get a few good minutes with Bruce because

684
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: this guy knows everything, and not only that, he's been

685
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: following the Elite eleven for a long time.

686
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: He was a big supporter of c J.

687
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: Stroud and I thought, man, I could get some good

688
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 2: stuff from CJ. And then as I thought about, I

689
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 2: was like, hey, he probably knows Will Anderson, he probably

690
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: knows Tank Dell, he probably probably knows Demiko Ryans well.

691
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: Yes, correct on all of them.

692
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: Bruce gave me some great stuff here, and my man,

693
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,479
Speaker 2: David Anderson is going to catch some strays in this

694
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: one because he's an apparent neighbor of Bruce Feldman, but

695
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: we'll get into that in this interview with my man,

696
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman. I love I standing next to my next guest,

697
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: this guy, whether it's meat market, whether it's quarterback.

698
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy has written.

699
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: So many great books. He is the voice on college football.

700
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: If it's not me, it's Bruce Feldman from the Athletic Bruce,

701
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 2: I want to talk to you about the guys the

702
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Texans have added to their roster and start to top

703
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: with c J.

704
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: Stroud.

705
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: I know you were very ill say outspoken, but you

706
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: were very supportive. Things you heard, things you saw about

707
00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: c J.

708
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Stroud. What are the Texans getting in CJ. Stroud One?

709
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 8: They're getting somebody who's very very accurate, incredibly accurate, and

710
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 8: I think you were getting a guy who has no

711
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 8: real flaws.

712
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 4: He's got pretty good size.

713
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 8: I think I love the temperament, you know, and I

714
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 8: think it wasn't quite here.

715
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 4: It was at the Star where.

716
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 8: I think the opening was one year where he outperformed

717
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 8: everybody and he you know, including the guy who went

718
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 8: oh first.

719
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: Overall they were, you know, like.

720
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 8: He he was at his best even you look, when

721
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 8: Georgia was a it was the most talented defense in

722
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 8: the country.

723
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 4: He had them on the ropes.

724
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting in this regard because a lot

725
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 8: of talk around the draft came up at like the

726
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,239
Speaker 8: S two cognition test, And I remember talking to an

727
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 8: NFL quarterback coach for store I did on the athletic

728
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 8: right before the draft, and he was like, you know,

729
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 8: I had him first until those you know, some of

730
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 8: those results came out and he goes but like you

731
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 8: don't see any of the issues on film, and everybody

732
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 8: knows he's really smart.

733
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 4: Like I think, like if I was.

734
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 8: And again I'm not a not a GM. If I

735
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 8: had the first pick on the draft, I would dig him.

736
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 8: No knock on Bryce Young, but Bryson is not a

737
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 8: big man. At some point he is going to take

738
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 8: some big hits and how he's gonna respond now looks

739
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 8: you know, Cjil takes probably some big hits too, and

740
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 8: we'll see how he holds up.

741
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 4: But he's a lot more likely, I would think to be.

742
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 8: Durable, and I you know, I just think he's going

743
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 8: to be terrific.

744
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're hoping the same and I was when I

745
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: saw him live for the first time out of practice,

746
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 2: I thought, well, he's both put together that I thought,

747
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: another guy that's very.

748
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: Well put together.

749
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: The Texans went up to get Will Anderson. I know

750
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk nationally about, oh, you don't

751
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: go up to give up as much with the Texans,

752
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: but they went up and got arguably the best defensive

753
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: player that's been in college football last couple of.

754
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Years, going up and getting Will Anderson. Your thoughts about

755
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: adding him to the Texas defense.

756
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 8: You know, there was a legit discussion from you know,

757
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 8: the conversation I with Alabama people in that staff is like,

758
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 8: is this the best player Nick sabe and has had

759
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 8: on defense? And you know, since he's been there, and

760
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 8: think of all the guys who've come through there, right,

761
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 8: he just makes a lot of plays.

762
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: And I know that at some point there.

763
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 8: Was like a little bit of like, oh, you know,

764
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 8: it's not like he's It was almost like the he's

765
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 8: not quite Miles Garrett Athletically.

766
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 4: I'm like, Okay, how many people are Superman?

767
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

768
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 4: I was like whatever, And.

769
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 8: He just makes a ton of plays and everybody knows

770
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 8: he's out there, and he still makes him.

771
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: People love his character.

772
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 8: You know, they got too like no brainers, right, you know,

773
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 8: so I don't you know, I mean, I don't know

774
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 8: what the value is in terms of like, Okay, they

775
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 8: gave up too much of this because the guy it

776
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 8: turns out to be like a six time pro bowler,

777
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 8: Like is that good enough to be the you know,

778
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 8: like and I get it, Like it's funny whenever I

779
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 8: think of the Texans, like I you know, I joke

780
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 8: about this as like because I lived near Dave Anderson,

781
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 8: you know, like Colorado State legend, but like, you know,

782
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 8: he was there when when when you know Mario Williams,

783
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 8: you know, they're at the top of the draft and everything,

784
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 8: and there are certain guys who were like, okay, what

785
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 8: is that value? You know they have like one amazing season.

786
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 8: You're like, okay, we see the talent, but like ultimately,

787
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 8: where is the production? I mean we're not talking, you know,

788
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 8: Like I think I'd be very surprised that people are

789
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 8: not very happy with the pick.

790
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 2: Years from now, yeah, I think a lot of people

791
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: are happy. And by the way, tell Dave Anderson, I

792
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: said hello, and he probably he still owes me an

793
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: eighty nine Texas, Jersey. That's a different story for a

794
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 2: different day. In the third round, Texans ended up taking

795
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: Tank Dell. When you see Tank, you think, wait a second,

796
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: the Pop Warner game's over there. But then you see

797
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: number one on the field and you go, wait a second,

798
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: this guy's.

799
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: On a whole different level.

800
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 2: Dan Hodgson once told me, in fact, before you play

801
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: a game, he's the most electron players ever coached. I

802
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 2: asked Dana today. He said, oh, yeah, he's that. And

803
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: then some the Texans got with Tank Dell.

804
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: Man.

805
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 8: You know, again, Dana's had some really explosive college players

806
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 8: that he's had.

807
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: You know, I think if Tavon Austin was, you know, insanely, you.

808
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 8: Know, like what he could do with the ball in

809
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 8: his hands, And I think with Tank Dell, you know,

810
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 8: he's really dynamic. You know, he's the guy. And again

811
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 8: we'll see what the offense looks like. He's the guy.

812
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 8: If he's like in a RAMS uniform. I feel like,

813
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 8: all of a sudden, there's gonna be like three times

814
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 8: a game where he's gonna have you on the edge

815
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 8: of your seat. Like he's not He's obviously not. Deebo

816
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 8: Samuel Deebo Samuel is a huge man and stronger and everything,

817
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 8: but like in terms of like how do we get

818
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 8: the ball to him?

819
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: And and what is the thing that he's going to

820
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 4: do which is gonna blow a game open?

821
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 8: Like I feel like he's a he's a really good

822
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 8: complimentary piece and you know, third round, it's like, hey,

823
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 8: if you think he's gonna give you some splash plays,

824
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 8: which I think he will, I think I think he'll

825
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 8: be a fun player to watch.

826
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 2: Now, there are a lot of people in here, and

827
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: I don't want to date either one of us, but

828
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people in here that aren't

829
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: going to remember Demiko Ryans as a player at the

830
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: University of Alabama.

831
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: I know you've covered the sport for a while.

832
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: What do you remember about Demiko at Alabama that you

833
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: think will end up transitioning into him being a head

834
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 2: coach with the Texans?

835
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 8: You know, I don't know if I can give you

836
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 8: something really specific onto that. Here's what I can give you.

837
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 8: I remember I got introduced to him, really because I

838
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 8: never I didn't know him when he was coming up out.

839
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 4: I knew who he was, but.

840
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 8: There was a year I think the national title game

841
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 8: was in Clemson played Alabama in Yeah, And so I

842
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 8: was around Chip Kelly, who lives near me, and he

843
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 8: introduced me to Dumiko Ryans and he.

844
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: Was really gracious and really charismatic and just had a

845
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 4: warmth about him.

846
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 8: And then eventually Dumiko walked away and I was like,

847
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 8: I just said something at Chip. I was like, wow,

848
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 8: he definitely has a presence to him because he's just

849
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 8: very likable.

850
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 4: He goes he is gonna be a.

851
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 8: Phenomenal coach, Like he's just super smart and connects with.

852
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 4: Players and he has a feel like so many people

853
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 4: I know, Like there's a guy who all so.

854
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 8: Like another one who lives near me in Los Angeles

855
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 8: who's an NFL scout just thinks, to Miko is so

856
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 8: smart in terms of having a feel for what players

857
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 8: need because he was a great player. And when this

858
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 8: person told me that, I was like, yeah, I can see.

859
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 8: Whenever you hear sometimes people go, well, how good of

860
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 8: a player was he? You know or whatever, it's like

861
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 8: not that, well, all right, Bill Belichick's a Hall of

862
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 8: Fame coach, and I know I get that he was

863
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 8: not Lawrence Taylor as a player, But like then there's

864
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 8: the other part of it where like how it matters

865
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 8: and how it can be a huge asset, and I

866
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 8: think that's what you know. I'm excited to see what

867
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 8: he's gonna do, and I like what they've done, you know,

868
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 8: in the draft to give him some momentum.

869
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: Bruce, I appreciate you, Tom, thank you very much. O.

870
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 4: Anytime I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get that jersey

871
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: for you from Dave.

872
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Da, if you're listening, you owe me that jersey

873
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: from like two thousand and eight, So hook me up,

874
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: let's go. You can do that, right, I know you can't.

875
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: You'll find it in your heart. You had it in

876
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 2: your car one day, whatever.

877
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: Happened to it.

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00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: All right, Love David Anderson, great Texan, always a supporter

879
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: of mine, good friend of mine. So glad to see

880
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: David doing well out in California. I A all right,

881
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: let's get to Dave Aranda head coach Baylor. I checked

882
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 2: him down all day, just wanted to get a couple

883
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 2: of minutes with him to talk to Jalen Petrie, and

884
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: he did not disappoint Take a listen to this, including

885
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: his thoughts on the Jalen rules Monard be signed next

886
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: to David Randa, head coach of the Baylor Bears, and

887
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: coach you know, I know somebody very important to Houston,

888
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: Texas at Jalen Peatrie. You had a few years to

889
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: coach him. What did he mean to the Baylor program?

890
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: What do you mean to you as a head coach?

891
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Everything?

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00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 9: You know, Jalen's a great a great person first of all,

893
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 9: and there's a level of class with him, a respect

894
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 9: for other people. There's you know, I think academically was

895
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 9: crushing in.

896
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: While I was here.

897
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 4: It was important to him.

898
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 9: Was devoted and focused when he was in class. And

899
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 9: then you know, off the field, like I say, just

900
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 9: kind of kept to his own studied was a professional

901
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 9: before he was a professional, and I think I have

902
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 9: to imagine that was you know, I think I'm sure

903
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 9: there's a lot of credit that goes to Matt Ruhle

904
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Speaker 9: and that staff or for doing that. The Peatry that

905
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 9: we saw when we were there was already at these levels,

906
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 9: and so I just know, you know, he probably didn't

907
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 9: show up out of high school that way, you know,

908
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 9: So there's some growth that had to occur and we were.

909
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: The recipients of it.

910
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 9: Then on the field was just way innovative, way creative,

911
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 9: played played with a chip on his shoulder and edge

912
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 9: and there's got to the point to where, you know,

913
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 9: if we're blitzing off an edge and an offensive tackle

914
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 9: to a two man surface guard tackle surface and the

915
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 9: tack would overset on Jalen because he's rushing. You know,

916
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 9: we would say, hey, you're a contained rusher, You've got

917
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 9: to stay outside, and you know, Jalen would come inside

918
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 9: and make the sack or something, and he would do

919
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 9: it again and again, and so eventually we had like

920
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 9: Jalen rules, like Jalen can do this. Now you you're

921
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Speaker 9: not Jalen, you can't do this, but Jalen can do it.

922
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 9: And so I think there was a lot of things

923
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 9: that are like that, and I think, you know, I

924
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 9: think the other thing that came up with him as

925
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Speaker 9: a player was that there's times where you know, the

926
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Speaker 9: game needed to be closed out.

927
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Speaker 4: There are times where we needed to make a play.

928
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: And I think when we have a young, inexperienced team, you're.

929
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 9: Worried about are you gonna jump off sides or are

930
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 9: you gonna you know, we're gonna holding penalty, are gonna

931
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 9: with Jalen. It was like, watch him, He's gonna make

932
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 9: this player, and so it's just way cool and so

933
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 9: we certainly miss it, way excited for him.

934
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 4: I know he had a great year, is gonna have

935
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Speaker 4: another one coming on. Coach.

936
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Speaker 1: I appreciate your time. Thank you very much.

937
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: Thank you, appreciate it.

938
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk ball coach for a long time. But

939
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: I know he had plenty of things to do, but

940
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Speaker 2: I appreciate all of them. Bud Clark, Josh Newton, Jamoy Hodge,

941
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: Dana Holgerson, Bruce Felman, David Randon for joining me talking

942
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: about our newest Texans. It was a good time talking

943
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: to them, and I thank them immensely. All Right, we

944
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: got a few minutes left on the other side. Let's

945
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: go around the NFL. When we get back right here

946
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Speaker 2: on Texans All Access.

947
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Speaker 1: What's happen? Everybody?

948
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, one final segment of this edition of Texans

949
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Speaker 2: All Access. I'm your host, John Harris, football and a

950
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 2: sideline reporter, and we're getting ever so close to the

951
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 2: start of training camp. By the way, I've done my

952
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 2: training camp position breakdowns for four positions, D line, tight end,

953
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Speaker 2: running backs, and I just finished linebackers, So those should

954
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 2: be up on the site Houston Texans dot com. Check

955
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: out twitter feed, Instagram feed, all that kind of stuff

956
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: and you can go read those news around the NFL.

957
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit last night.

958
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: The Jets are this year's hard Knocks team and it's

959
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: gonna be glorious. Uh maybe Aaron Rodgers said hard Knocks

960
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: forced it down our throats. Well, you nowhere, and he's

961
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,760
Speaker 2: gonna be on this whole thing. He can be one

962
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: crotchety old sob. He was all pissy about the Texans

963
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: coming for joint practices up in twenty nineteen, and now

964
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: he's looking at hard Knocks and saying, they forced it

965
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: down our throats. Man, just deal, Just throw the football

966
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: and deal. My goodness, he is such a cry baby.

967
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: Unbelievable Saba. The name fits no doubt, great quarterback and

968
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: I love him because the Packers are my second favorite

969
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: team and always will be outside of the Texans. But

970
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: my god, he can cry sham any Christmas. Well, thank

971
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: you Aaron Rodgers, thank you all of you. Thank you

972
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 2: everybody that I met and talked to a big twelve

973
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Speaker 2: media days. Thank you so much. To Mark, We'll see

974
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 2: you guys on Monday, have a great weekend, and there's

975
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: always good Texans