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Speaker 1: I am merely bow. He is the great Z. That

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Speaker 1: but being president those Calves games. So I think it

428
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: was only it was poetic that there was a home

429
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: Calves game last night. And what about that ovation you received.

430
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, there aren't many people that you know, leave

431
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 1: the Browns, and obviously not under the circumstances any of

432
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: us would have wanted to. But you last played here

433
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen, You go play for the

434
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 1: Steelers for six years, for crying out loud, and you

435
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: come back and the ovation that you got at that

436
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: game last night, what did that mean to you? And

437
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 1: and did that just kind of speak to you to

438
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 1: to the impact you had here on this city in

439
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: your time here. It kind of almost choked me up

440
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it

441
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: just shows that it is so reciprocated everything that the

442
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: love I gave out to the city, and they just

443
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,199
Speaker 1: they appreciated it, they embraced it. And just yesterday, like

444
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 1: getting that crazy, like you said, it was so loud.

445
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 1: I was just looking around and everybody, Joe, you let

446
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 1: and think about everything you did for the city, not

447
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 1: only on the field, off to do I mean, just

448
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: to respect. I just it was amazing, overwhelming, and I

449
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: love everybody from the sea that just just tried to

450
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: show me that love. Joe, take us back to that

451
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: that time, you know, upon being drafted here and uh,

452
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: you're a kid who had a great deal of success

453
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: at the University of Florida and some of the greatest

454
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: college football teams of all time. Uh, you're drafted early

455
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: in the first round. You come to Cleveland, Nathan, I

456
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: were talking about this earlier. I don't recall any athlete

457
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: who threw themselves into a city the way that you did.

458
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: Do you remember that being a conscious decision? What what

459
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: made you want to be so involved in the city

460
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: the way that you were? What do you remember about

461
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 1: that time? Um? I remember just you know, I was

462
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 1: finally my dream came true, you know what I'm saying,

463
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: drafted to the league. So basically, you know, I've always

464
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: been like a basketball can, always been just a really

465
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: really big sports plan. And coming to Cleveland, I've never

466
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 1: really been to Cleveland before. I didn't know how much

467
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: they loved and embrational saying this course and I'm all

468
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: for it. So I just felt like, man, y'all love

469
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: your teams, so do I So like, let's let's let's

470
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 1: do it. I love basketball, I love just being being

471
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 1: around being with the people. So once they kind of

472
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: they showed me that they loved it, and I was

473
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: going to do it regardless. So once that happened, it

474
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: was just like, man, this is perfect, Joe. What was

475
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: it like in when you, you know, you get drafted

476
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: by the Browns. You come here, you mentioned and one

477
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,040
Speaker 1: of the cootes you said, the press counts you're twenty

478
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: one year old guy. You end up, you know, you

479
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: get married while you're here with the Browns. You sign

480
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: You're like the first guy and forever to sign a

481
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 1: second contract. You know that was drafted by the Browns,

482
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: which was a very very big deal when you signed

483
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: that deal, and I remember sitting in the studio and

484
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: you guys signed it in that conference room literally right

485
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: across the hallway right there. Remember, yeah, you and you

486
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: and your and your lovely wife were there. What was

487
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: that moment like for you? And was that a moment

488
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: that you know you look back on as one of

489
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 1: those truly life changing moments? Oh my goodness. Yes, like

490
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 1: the draft a moment of course. But your second contract

491
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 1: is the contract where you get paid for what you've

492
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: done in the league, like what your peers and what

493
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: everybody's seeing you do. So that second contract is the boom, Like, Okay,

494
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: I made it, and now I continue to have to

495
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: perform obviously, but it's expectedly like this is I'm men

496
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: paid the big bucks because they know I'm gonna go ball.

497
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: So that was just a real like man. You you're

498
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: doing your thing in the league. Continue you keep it going.

499
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 1: But like that was like a real like man, So

500
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: you did it. You're not. You didn't just get drafted

501
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 1: and you work bust or anything. But I mean, you

502
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying happens. But being able to work,

503
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: work line and then get that second deal was like, yes, yeah,

504
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: five year, sixty seven million dollars. Yes, that's a yes.

505
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: I would I'd be pretty fired up about that deal. Joe,

506
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: you have such a unique perspective and that you played

507
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: for these two franchises where there is this incredible dislike

508
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: between the two fan bases. U what what perspective can

509
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: you give on uh? Playing on both sides of it? Um,

510
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: the feelings are mutual, for sure, you guys do not

511
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: like each other, but I think it's a um in

512
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: the building though it's a competitive and a respectful competitive

513
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: like you know, each other, don't like each other. You're

514
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: gonna get the best shot, doesn't matter what the records are.

515
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: Cleland won't give you the best shot every time you play.

516
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: You want to be distillers because you just that that's

517
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: your our scribble. And the same way over there in Pittsburgh,

518
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: they respect the Browns because they know exactly what they're

519
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: gonna get every single time. It's gonna be a fight.

520
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: So I think that the teams having that mutual like

521
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: you really don't like each other. I mean, that's just

522
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: something that is. It is from the teams, and it's

523
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: from the cities. Joe. This is obviously a very big

524
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: game for the Browns who have not gotten off to

525
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: the start that they wanted to. It is against the Bengals.

526
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: And no matter where you were, if you were the

527
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 1: Brown or if you were a Steeler, you got the

528
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 1: Bengals twice a year, every single year. Do you have

529
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: any great memories, you know, from your time either here

530
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: or in Pittsburgh of games against the Bengals. I can

531
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: think of. Trying to think of, I want to say,

532
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: in two thousand and fourteen, there's a game where you

533
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: had to pick we won thirty four and I know

534
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: there's a game where you had two picks and your

535
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: first career touchdown, but unfortunately we did not get that

536
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 1: one done there back in two thousand thirteen. No, I

537
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: mean I was the two pick game. I thought we

538
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: got us off to a good start. Who came back

539
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: and lost that one? Um, But then I had to

540
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: put that That game though, was probably one of my

541
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: had two picks in one quarter, So yeah, that was

542
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: one of my highlighting birth to angous. Well, we need

543
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,120
Speaker 1: we need somebody get to follow emulate you tonight. Two

544
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: picks in one quarter. I think we'll help us out tremendous.

545
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 1: I think could do it. I like, by the way,

546
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone and we. I just was

547
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 1: with him on Thursday night for for the coaches show

548
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: out on a remote and you know he goes to

549
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: the Calves games all the time. He's got your natural

550
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of smile. He's always positive, happy to see everybody.

551
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: And he said, you guys had not met yet, but

552
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: I think you guys are. He's a little bit of

553
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: a kindred spirit of yours. I think you guys will

554
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: enjoy each other's company for sure. Yes, I got to

555
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: meet him actually, on was it Saturday at the past,

556
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, we got to hang out, we got

557
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: to chop it up the show so great. Great dude, man,

558
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: I see him really really right through for him milk

559
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,439
Speaker 1: for sure. He definitely reminds me of myself, which is

560
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: a good thing. It's a good thing. Well, and and

561
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: m j Emerson too, right, Joe, he's a Floridian wearing

562
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 1: that two three. You looked up with him Saturday too,

563
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: so him, I went and I went and spoke with

564
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: him too, because I saw the video of him. So

565
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: he looked up, looked up to me, him being from Florida.

566
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to get that through. The hug

567
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: soon did I saw him, just hugged him. It's fantastic. Yeah.

568
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: And he's so far he's doing he's doing your twenty

569
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: three justice right now. Yeah, very impressive job. Please try

570
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 1: to get him some good juju. Let's go, Joe, We'll

571
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: get you out of here on this one. I've I've

572
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: told this before on this show, and I'm sure you're

573
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: aware of it, but I think it speaks to uh

574
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: the relationship that you had with the fans and that

575
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: the fans love that they had for you. Uh. This

576
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: was when we did the uniform exchange and I was

577
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: doing an out of market radio interview and the host

578
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: on the other end said, can you believe that the

579
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: number one selling jersey in the NFL is Joe Hayden?

580
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: And I said, well, I can. The Browns got new uniforms,

581
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: and he is the most beloved players for a franchise

582
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: that is absolutely beloved by its fans. Typically, the number

583
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: one selling jersey the NFL, as you know, though, is

584
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 1: a quarterback or a young inga always right, like you

585
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: had the number one selling jersey in the NFL playing

586
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: corner buddy. Trust me, I saw that too, and I

587
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: thought it was not real. Ill, that's right, that's right,

588
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: because listen, you were beloved. And one thing I'll get

589
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: you out there on this one from my end is this.

590
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: And I said this before you came on. And what

591
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: I thought was so special about you not only you

592
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: as a player, and obviously I got to know you,

593
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: an interview you and talked with you so many times,

594
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: but and it wasn't just the way you treated me.

595
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: It was the way you treated everybody here. You treated

596
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,959
Speaker 1: the equipment guys, the way you treated even the genders

597
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: way you treated the people in the cafe, every single

598
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: person that you interacted with, you made them feel like

599
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: you're as excited to interact with them as they were

600
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: for sure to be interacting with you. And I want

601
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: to just thank you for that because I think that

602
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: speaks to not only what kind of a player you were,

603
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: but what kind of a guy you were, which is

604
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: ultimately more important in the long run, right, And so

605
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: just thank you for that. And is that something that

606
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: you know you were always taught to do? Is that

607
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: just something that just came natural to because it is

608
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: very unique to have somebody that is that engaging with

609
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: everybody and treats everybody with that kind of respect. And

610
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: I thought that's what was so special about you. Oh man,

611
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: thank you. I think it comes it comes to genuine

612
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's probably don't think you

613
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: can really teach. I think my mom and dad I've

614
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: got great examples. You know what I'm saying. It is

615
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 1: these always just been so caring kind of people. And

616
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: it's and it doesn't cost anything to be nice, you

617
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I always get each person

618
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: the opportunity I'm gonna be as nice as I possibly

619
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: and coming to you with the good energy if you

620
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: don't give it back. You know what I'm saying, cool,

621
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: not recipicated, and I'll just slide on. But I get

622
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: everybody equal opportunity. Talk to him looking in the eyes,

623
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: you know what saying, just like try to bite people's day,

624
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because like it's free to

625
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: do that, walking around being mad. I just don't like

626
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: bad energy, you know what I'm saying, A big energy,

627
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: gobs good vibes, only like seriously, what what walk around grumpy?

628
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, I just love that, and I just

629
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: like to have people around me with sounds, good spirits,

630
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: trying to keep people up. Well, you brought our spirit

631
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: today and it's great to have you back, buddy, and

632
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: I hope we can culminate it with a win tonight

633
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: over the Bengals. Thanks for your time, Joe Man. Thank you, guys.

634
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Think he's the best. Joining on

635
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought to you by Twisted Tea,

636
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: Hard iced Tea and official sponsor of the Cleveland Browns.

637
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. The idea that you didn't win

638
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of games in that time obviously, but that

639
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: you had Joe Thomas and Joe Hayden. You want to

640
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: talk about good humans, just do the right things and

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Speaker 1: from ms K about when the roads closed tonight because

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Speaker 1: it's so much different than going in on a Sunday morning,

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Speaker 1: to just zoom in. Well, they don't mess around. I'll

667
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Speaker 1: tell you that. I know last time I, without the

668
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Speaker 1: benefit of some very nice people who were manning various posts,

669
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Speaker 1: I would have not made. I might not have made

670
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Speaker 1: the game. Well what what what I think is a

671
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: real tricky on that is that they will close it

672
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: this time, But the city also reserves the right to

673
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Speaker 1: do whatever the hell they want. Yes, so last time

674
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Speaker 1: they said they were closing him at six, I was

675
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: where I wanted to be, not open. So right, that

676
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: happened to me last year when I went to the game.

677
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: This year I went I got like an hour early,

678
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Speaker 1: just to make sure. Smart. Yeah, but it's so give

679
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: yourself plenty of time to get down there. This could

680
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: be a scene man, Halloween and this y yep. Alcohol,

681
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest, Well, yeah, that's in play.

682
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of alcohol. There's always a

683
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Speaker 1: line on if you're dressed up and going to a

684
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: sporting event and the where the alcohol becomes a problem

685
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: and then you're walking around drunk in a costume. That's

686
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: always a line right right where you You want to

687
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Speaker 1: make sure that you try to stay on the right

688
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: side of that ledger where where all of this is concerned.

689
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Speaker 1: Did you guys enjoy your set your Sunday watching some

690
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: NFL I did you You were out? Yeah? Just busy.

691
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean I was on call for here, worked here Saturday,

692
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: like Monday night games worst, Yeah, from a logistics standpoint,

693
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: and just trying to get ready for things because no

694
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: one can commit. No one can. Everybody's like, well, let

695
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: me see what happens on Sunday. Okay, I don't know

696
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: how that impacts us, but okay, yeah, so it was fine.

697
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: I got got fine with the lady. Outside is beautiful

698
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: again this week. It's a great weekend and supposed to

699
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: be a great week by the way, it's supposed to

700
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: have a great week this week too, So who knows

701
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: seventy one on Friday and Saturday kids. I mean, that's

702
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 1: unbelievable to that. Yeah, it's really nice because we didn't

703
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: have much of a September, but October has been sincere.

704
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: It's just torturing me. Why you did a nice fall

705
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: fest this weekend documentary and I got to see you're

706
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: all activities. The boys would love that place that we

707
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: went to, they'd they'd before that. Yeah, full little I

708
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Speaker 1: kind of zoo. There's a camel there. There was a zonkey,

709
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Speaker 1: which is a zebra and a donkey together. Really never

710
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: I'd seen one of those before. I'm just trying to

711
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: think of how that was. Which the one I don't

712
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: it says on there, which was the male, which was

713
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: the female? Yes, to make it work, Yes, but there

714
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Speaker 1: was a zonkey. There was a camel, which was great. Yeah,

715
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Speaker 1: you love the camel. Kind camel too, very nice young

716
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Speaker 1: cal h. It didn't appear that there were rides on

717
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Speaker 1: the camel, but they had this little area and there's

718
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of goats and pigs and stuff running around,

719
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: which was pretty cool. Um that a nice corn maze

720
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Speaker 1: which we had fun with, and then they had an

721
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Speaker 1: averywhere you could shoot a corn cannon, which is basically

722
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Speaker 1: just a very high air pressure loaded tube that pops

723
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: out ears of corn at a rapid rate, which was

724
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: shoot at targets, was fun. They had a paintball area,

725
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: which is super fun. Then they had these little like

726
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: gelmall guns that the kids would like where you could

727
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: run around in there and shoot each other around and

728
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: obviously couldn't hurt anybody here, but it was fun. Um. Yeah,

729
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: they had little pay rides. It was great. We had

730
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: it was it was awesome. Got our pumpkins. Uh. Didn't

731
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 1: do any carving this year. A little sad about that,

732
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: but I find that on the carvings that it's usually

733
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,479
Speaker 1: just me like that I do it, and everyone else

734
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Speaker 1: actually like they're interested. And then basically once I start

735
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Speaker 1: cutting into it, they're like they want to touch it,

736
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: all right, give me this stuff. I want to feel it.

737
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Speaker 1: And then once that's done. They watched Boots, He's onto

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Speaker 1: Watch and Blue and then they come back in thirty

739
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 1: minutes and they're like, Okay, I think, what did you do? Dad?

740
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: I think next year, I just want to get like

741
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: some sweet Sharpie's and just like right, I just do

742
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: cut on zwo anyway, so I could just write that

743
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: on there and just as easy and less messy, less

744
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: mess Yeah, someone gave me the tip a couple of

745
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: years ago to take the bottom out of the back

746
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: end versus the top. At forever we would take the

747
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: top end, but if you take the bottom or the

748
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: back then it's so much easier and it's actually more

749
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: structurally sound. So yeah, I've been doing that. That's that's

750
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: a bit of a game changer. It's a good note.

751
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: We had a neighborhood thanksgive Halloween yesterday. It's the first

752
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 1: time I've ever seen a uh our little neighbor girl

753
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: sweet memory. She took she took U you know all that.

754
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: She was picking up her sister as well. And so

755
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: we had a full array of candies to choose from,

756
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: and she took four three musketeers as soon as Amy

757
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: put him in there. And I'm sure it was like

758
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: the Costco thing, where like you get them all and

759
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: here's one like costat is with everything, like here's four

760
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: flavors you really like and one that sucks. Well that

761
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: she like all of these three munketeers. I told Amy,

762
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 1: I said, but nobody's gonna eat three musketeers. We're gonna

763
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: be stuck with these things. We donate them to somebody.

764
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Speaker 1: Sure enough, Emory took four. Mom, God, bless you. Fantastic.

765
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: It's nothing to it nothing, It's just it's not even nugat,

766
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Speaker 1: is it. It's just like fluff. It's like marshmallow. I

767
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: don't really know what it is. It's not good. No,

768
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: it's no good. Um, we had incredible The boys are

769
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: the older two were trying to pull one over on

770
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Bootsie last night on a candy trade, and he was

771
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: unaware they were trying to scoop him on nerds and

772
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: they were trying to trade him for the nerds. And

773
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: I said, I gonna tell you, but I think you're

774
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: really gonna like those nerds. I'd hold onto those things

775
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: if I were you. You know, you get the flavors,

776
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: one side to each flavor that feels like a wind.

777
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: I said, I'd hold on to that. And that usurped

778
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: their attempts to to screw him out of this candy is.

779
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: The nerds are fantastic, great watermelon strawberry like the combo

780
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: one box that is like a rainbow of crush. The

781
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: one Kenny from my childhood that I did not love.

782
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: That was along the similar vein of nerds was pop

783
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: rocks that my mouth was not happy with the pop rocks.

784
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: And then you would have the thing where it'd be like, well,

785
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: don't drink it with coke, blow up, and you go, well,

786
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: it feels like that's not I don't even know if

787
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: those exist anymore, they really, I haven't seen him in years.

788
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know the boys would handle that. I

789
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: should try. I did watch somebody though. Once when I

790
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: was young, I was on the we were on the

791
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: ferry with my parents. I was on the ferry of

792
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: my parents. We were going and we'd go like around

793
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: from jack London Square in Oakland. We would take the

794
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: ferry across to Sandford this going. We go to garrett

795
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: Elly Square and they have like this great time. I

796
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: loved it. It was always a very fun thing too

797
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: for my ute. So somebody, do you guys remember when

798
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Speaker 1: people said that if you threw like alka seltzer's up

799
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Speaker 1: to like seagulls, Yeah, they boom. I saw it. That

800
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: happened live on. One of these guy had like a

801
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: bunch of them and kept throwing them and all these

802
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 1: seagulls follow the fairies, you know, course, and threw it

803
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: up and finally one and it's like literally as if

804
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: there was a grenade inside of it. It was the

805
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: craziest thing I ever sound was traumatized. Yeah, yeah, that's

806
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: a lot going on. Yea. So he must have eaten,

807
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: like I think, Yeah, because he was throwing. I mean,

808
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: this guy came to do this. Yeah, he's a seagull murderer.

809
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: And you know that's a criminal charge. I feel like it, right,

810
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: It's an aggressive play at the very least. Yeah, what

811
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: what is the rule with the boys and candy and

812
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: when they can have it and the allocation of how

813
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: much they can have they get to a night. That's

814
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: the rule they get, they get two pieces a night.

815
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: It's funny though, like when I was a kid, there

816
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: was no parameter on any of it, and I think

817
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: I turned out okay, But at the same time, like

818
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting full Reese's peanut butter cups and full

819
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Snickers bars and all that. Nobody was getting full anything

820
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: when we were kids. You get a little guy, there

821
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Speaker 1: was like one neighbor certain streets there was a one

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Speaker 1: or two and homemade chocolate donuts was a huge win,

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Speaker 1: and at that point, you're just fantastic. Actually would eat

824
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Speaker 1: homemade Yes, candy, crush yeah, crush it um. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little over Unders gentlemen? Oh baby, yeah? Can we

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Speaker 1: just recap what happened last week? He wanted to do

834
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: this for a week, watched it on Twitter. I thought

835
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: about blocking him last week on the over Unders get

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Speaker 1: back and the Huff tied with two and three records.

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Speaker 1: Manage expectations, Zura a perfect five and oh our first

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Speaker 1: five and oh ladies and gentlemen, Yes, the best is

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Speaker 1: when you hold up anything, whether it's the be or

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Speaker 1: the trophy, it's not on the camera. Yes, it should

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Speaker 1: be bad camera work, bad camera work awful. You know

843
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: your camera. You can't zoom out, there's no light up camera.

844
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: You don't even know what's happening. In a normal studio,

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Speaker 1: I would have a light if a camera was on.

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00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: H Now you're just asking for more lights. Let's go

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00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: that camera work? Is that on? Looking right at me?

848
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell if it's on or not. Good job, Connor,

849
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Speaker 1: he got you the alright, So with that, GiB Azagura

850
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: for the first time to season creeps above five eighteen

851
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: and seventeen, and the half is still a robust twenty

852
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: and fifteen. But now I knock, knock, knocking, half you

853
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: are where We're ready? Here we go. Hit the traveling music.

854
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: He's got it, she's traveling it away. Can't hear it

855
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: in here? First? One another flaw of the studio you

856
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: designed numerous Nick chub and perhaps for the last time,

857
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: Kareem hunt total touches in this one tonight, gentlemen, we

858
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 1: will start with z since he is the reigning champion.

859
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: The number we are looking for is thirty and a half.

860
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: Thirty and a half, the lowest we've ever done on

861
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:54,839
Speaker 1: this thirty and a half over over, get it under.

862
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: You've read it for a long time. You're done with

863
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: this book, you are done with this football time. I'm

864
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm in an agitated state. You're done. What is it

865
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: making done with? If they if that number is under,

866
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I find it very difficult to believe it was under

867
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: last week and it was a winning performance offensively, right. Yeah.

868
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: The only thing that's interesting about this number that is

869
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: a little concerning for me is that last week you

870
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: had six touches for Kareem Hunt. You have in the

871
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: last two games just twenty total yards for him. It's

872
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: been odd. Yeah, well I like it. Next over under

873
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow passing yardage. Joe Burrow passing yardage. Gibb A.

874
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: The number we are looking for is an over or

875
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: under two D and seventy five point five. He's at

876
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: five on the year, but no, Ja mar Chase, he's

877
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: got weapons. You gotta score points to night kids to five. Yeah,

878
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: he's averaging well above that for the five in the season.

879
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: But he has four eighty last week, so that he's

880
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 1: a three hunter back to against the week four. I

881
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: think it was just a wasn't it. Yeah, he had

882
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: to seventeen three weeks ago. Oh my god, I know

883
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: you know what's I'm going with my heart. I still

884
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: care about this team. Unlike gibbets, have a curveball. Got

885
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: this one, um, someone asked for asked for this on

886
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: social I like to throw a curball to you guys

887
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: every once in a a while. So total viewers tonight, keep

888
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: in mind you're going up against a World Series game

889
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: and it is Halloween. I will give you a little

890
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: bit of perspective. Um. The Rams Niners game at the

891
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: beginning of the month was thirteen point two million, so

892
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 1: that was what that one was. So the number we

893
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: are looking for is twelve point nine million. Is this

894
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: the costs all Platt? Does this count man A platforms

895
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: all platforms? Do we have Manny cash tonight? Yes? Oh yes,

896
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 1: twelve point nine is the number we're looking for. I

897
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: believe this is a zagora A lot of competition Halloween.

898
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: We went low conservative on the number. I don't know.

899
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: I gave your perspective. I gave you a perspective. I

900
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: gave you Rams nine ers thirteen point four unobstructed. So

901
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: half a million people do they drop off against the

902
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: World Series? Under? All right, what is the world series

903
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: at who even knows I saw no one one? Yeah,

904
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: do you think he could brush you back? I'm I'm

905
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: taking me over because Brown's Nation shows up game in

906
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: game out, doesn't matter. You know what our Browns fan

907
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: of the year last week, they will be inforce, they

908
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: will watch Inforce two is really we always have the

909
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: highest rate, like our games are amongst the top three

910
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: highest rates whenever. Yeah, I'm changing over over, very good,

911
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: next over under. We're looking for sax, interceptions and fumbles.

912
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: So I thought you were going to give us. I

913
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: thought we were going to get a little Harrison, Bryan,

914
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Donovan, People's Jones against Higgins and Boyd. I

915
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: thought that was gonna didn't get it. You didn't get

916
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: it this week that I thought not this week? U

917
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,400
Speaker 1: sax interceptions, Yeah, I feel like that would have gone

918
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: That would have gone Bengals way. Yeah, if you wanted

919
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: to lay up sacks, interceptions, fumbles, we are who's going

920
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: first this? You give it? The number is three and

921
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: a half, three and a half over over, we average

922
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: four sacks a game against Joe Burrow just alone. If

923
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: we can't get to this QB tonight, I know he's

924
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: not out of the shotgun gets the ball out of

925
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: the third fastest in the league. When he has held it,

926
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: it's usually for Chase Steep and he won't have that.

927
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: He won't have that. And it's been less since under

928
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: the gun. All right, both of you went over. Finally,

929
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: next over. The actual over under is forty five point

930
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: five point five under. Give it to shootout at First

931
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: Energy Stadium tonight. Over home, My god, I feel like

932
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: it has to be under. We have done the last possession. Yeah,

933
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm just going for all the stops, to all the

934
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: we have stops. Stop get it. If you're headed to

935
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,520
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955
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Speaker 1: for the time. Let's just start with the Jamaar chase

956
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 1: part of this um. When did you start to get

957
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: the end cling that there could be more to this?

958
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 1: And obviously it's an enormous impact. He's one of the

959
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: most dangerous players in all of the NFL. How will

960
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: the Bengals try to get past it tonight? Yeah, you know,

961
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: it was very surprising, you know when we heard about

962
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: what was happening to to Jamar, and it all kind

963
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: of happened pretty quickly because you know, when we spoke

964
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: to him after the game against the Balcots on Sunday.

965
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: You know, he spoke to reporters and you know, he

966
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: finished the game number one and then number two. He

967
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: said that, you know, he didn't really want to get

968
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: into it. He looked like he wasn't incredibly comfortable, but

969
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: he said he felt fine after the game. Maybe it's

970
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: one of those things with the adrenaline wears off and

971
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: they'd take another look at it and then do kind

972
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: of make it a little more out of the blue.

973
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: You know. Zach Taylor on Wednesday said that Jamar was

974
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: just dealing with a little bit of soreness. And you know,

975
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: covering Zack for the last four years, and given how

976
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: he speaks about injuries, you know, that's not something that

977
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: he would have said had they indicated that it was

978
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: going to be a little bit more serious. You know,

979
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: I feel like the answer would have been much different

980
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: than oh, it's probably just a little bit of soreness,

981
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: which indicates then it's probably not that big of a deal.

982
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: So when Jamar ended up being you know, when Adam

983
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: Schefter reported that he was gonna be out for four

984
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: to six weeks with that hip hip injury, uh, and

985
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 1: then said that he got a second opinion essentially and

986
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: had looked at by northopedis that definitely raised a lot

987
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: of eyebrows. You know, we'll get an indication today of

988
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 1: what this Bengals offense is gonna look like without Jamaar Chase.

989
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: It's been humming the last two weeks. Can Tyler Boyd

990
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: and Tee Higgins and everybody else in that receiving room

991
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: step up and help this offense continue to be quite

992
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: frankly one of the more efficient ones in the NFL,

993
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: especially over the last few weeks. Ben they've been in

994
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 1: basically eleven personnel of the time the last few weeks,

995
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: when they kind of made that shift away from you know,

996
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: going with two tight ends trying to run the ball,

997
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: said all right, let's just getting shotgun, which they live

998
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: in shotgun now they live with three receivers on the field. Well,

999
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: when it's Jamaar Chase and Tee Higgins and Tyler Boyd,

1000
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: you get that who's gonna step in? I would imagine

1001
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: they're still gonna run that eleven personnel who steps in there?

1002
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: And what can be expected because as I looked at it,

1003
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: you know, nobody else on the team other than the

1004
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: big three at the receiver position anyway, have more than

1005
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas has two catches for thirty eight yards. Yeah,

1006
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, and I think Thomas is gonna be that guy.

1007
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 1: Whenever they had injury issues, I believe it was Baltimore,

1008
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas stepped in and played pretty well with Higgins

1009
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: who was injured in that game. And so I think

1010
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: that that's gonna be who they look at, you know,

1011
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: given what they currently have available, I wouldn't be shocked

1012
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: if you see Trent Irwin called up or you know,

1013
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: potentially looked at as an option. So, you know, I

1014
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: think that with with the Bengals and you talk about

1015
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: their personnel packages, you know, eleven personnel is so much

1016
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: the identity of what Zack Taylor wants to run. Even

1017
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: when he was here in En when he got the

1018
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: job and they did not have the receivers they have now,

1019
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, it was still something that fundamentally they want

1020
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 1: to do. You look at how much they space out

1021
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: the formation, you know, what they've done with their receivers,

1022
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: how many empty sets they use a k God's formation.

1023
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: Let me a good empty personnel package, just go heading

1024
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: the clear war on the opposed secondary. I feel like

1025
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: it's a it's a lot of fun that way, and

1026
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: you look at it. They they space things out and

1027
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: that allows Burrow, especially in shotgun, to take, uh, you know,

1028
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: take a good look pre snap, figure out what the

1029
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: defense is possibly going to bring, get the ball out quickly,

1030
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: and you know, get that you know, and be accurate

1031
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: with it as well, which are two of his biggest strengths.

1032
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: So even with jamar Out, I still anticipate a lot

1033
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: of eleven personnel. I know, the Browns, you know, I've

1034
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: had some issues you know, against the run, but I

1035
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 1: think that given what the Bengals have done well, I

1036
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the best way to go about it,

1037
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: even with jamar Out. Then, what's been the biggest difference

1038
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: for Burrow the last two weeks? The good question. I

1039
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: think that honestly just just based on what I've seen

1040
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: and you know, from from the start of the season

1041
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: and now he just looks more comfortable in the pocket.

1042
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: I feel physically he looks really good and and and

1043
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: probably the best he's looked since the end of last

1044
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: year's regular season. You know, as they got into the postseason,

1045
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: I thought he just never looks comfortable in the way

1046
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: that they called the offense. You could tell that they

1047
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 1: were definitely trying to pick their spots on when to

1048
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: attack downfield. With how that offensive line played. You know,

1049
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: now you've you've seen that offensive line get a little

1050
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,720
Speaker 1: bit more chemistry. You know, they they they are blocking

1051
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: much better than they have, you know, than if they

1052
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: were at the beating of the season. I should say,

1053
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: and you it should be worth pointing out that Burrow

1054
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: is now three months removed from that emergency appendeck to me,

1055
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: when his appendix ruptured right before they started training camp,

1056
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: not only did he miss a lot of time in

1057
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 1: training camp, but you know, he lost a lot of

1058
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: weight as well, to the point where Burrow wouldn't even

1059
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: tell us how much weight he did ultimately end up losing.

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00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: So I imagine that's not easy to put all back on.

1061
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: And then also, you know, convert back into muscle and

1062
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: so that definitely messes with your body composition, and so

1063
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, I have to wonder how much of that

1064
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 1: has played a factor. Burrow has downplayed that the entire time,

1065
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: saying he was a percent it wasn't going to be

1066
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: an issue. But you just wonder looking at him and

1067
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: knowing how he plays, you know, I feel like what

1068
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: we're seeing now, especially last week against Atlanta. You know,

1069
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I thought that was the best he looked physically and

1070
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: and you know it's one of the best games he's

1071
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: played since he's been in the NFL. Yeah, he was

1072
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: electric thirty four eight one yards of the three touchdowns

1073
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,280
Speaker 1: in addition to one rushing. I want to speaking of rushing,

1074
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 1: when I asked about Joe Mixon, who career low three

1075
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: point three yards of carry coming off of the season

1076
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: last year, he had over fifteen hundred total yards and

1077
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: sixteen total touchdowns. It just feels like they're getting him

1078
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: the ball a lot, but what he's not been able

1079
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: to do much with that four yards of touch this season.

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00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 1: What do you make of what you've seen from Joe Mixon?

1081
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: And is he's somebody with Jamar Chase out that you

1082
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: think will be a bigger part of the game plan

1083
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: against the Browns tonight. Yeah, you know, it's it's gonna

1084
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: be very you know, I always want to say things

1085
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,520
Speaker 1: were fascinating, but I I am fascinated by kind of

1086
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: what they're gonna end up doing with this. But you know,

1087
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: it's interesting. A couple of weeks ago, you know, Joe

1088
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: Mixon told us that he ended up calling a meeting

1089
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: with the offensive lineman and he wanted to basically get

1090
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: on the same page, make sure that they were seeing

1091
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: what he was seeing, and he was seeing what they

1092
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 1: were seeing. And when you look at the wide zone

1093
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: scheme that they run, you know, for it's up to

1094
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: the running back. You know, the offensive line's main job

1095
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: is to create the gaps and then let the running

1096
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: back use his vision to go downhill and pick those gaps.

1097
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: And and for whatever reason that offensive had uh mixing,

1098
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: the run game was was awful. You know. You look

1099
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 1: at what he did against light boxes. Was one of

1100
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: the worst running backs in the NFL. You know, it's

1101
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: taking a lot of time to even just gain a yard.

1102
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: And I believe he was the longest or they had,

1103
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 1: one of the worst in the NFL. We did a

1104
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: YouTube video on it a while back, if you want

1105
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: to check that out. Um, And over the last couple

1106
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: of weeks, we've seen the run game really find its

1107
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: groove after that meeting. You know, the pass game has

1108
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: worked really well as well. And I you know, I

1109
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: have to imagine both of those things are related the

1110
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: fact that the Banks are running the ball much better.

1111
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: You know, I feel like he's being more decisive at

1112
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. He's attacking you know, certain gaps

1113
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: quickly and being more assertive, and that's benefited as well.

1114
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,319
Speaker 1: So you know, I feel like with Mixing you are

1115
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: starting to see some of that production you had last season.

1116
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: But for me, I think the big surprise is how

1117
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: much he's been used in the passing game this year.

1118
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: You know, with defense is playing a lot of cover

1119
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: two looks, Joe Burrow has been more than happy to

1120
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: take those checkdowns. You know, as soon as he if

1121
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: he feels pressure, he says, I'm gonna get the ball

1122
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: to Joe Mixing and let him do his thing, get

1123
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: him in space, and which is what a lot of

1124
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: people have wanted, especially fantasy managers who who are potentially

1125
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: playing in those PPR leagues. They're They're always happy to

1126
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: see Joe Mixing get the ball in the passing game.

1127
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I think the usage of Mixing and

1128
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: potentially Hayden Hurst could be on the uptick. Is defense

1129
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: decide to play the Bengals differently with Jamarch Chase out

1130
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: Ben for whatever reason, Burrow has not had a lot

1131
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: of success against this Brown's franchise. What what does this

1132
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: as a kid who grew up in Ohio, what does

1133
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: this one mean to him? Is there a little is

1134
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: there a sense that it means more? Yeah, you know

1135
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: it's interesting, Yeah Burrow oh and three against the Browns,

1136
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 1: And it was interesting. We we just wrote a story

1137
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: on ESPN dot com about all the Cleveland ties that

1138
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,239
Speaker 1: he has. You know, grew have a big, die Hardcabs fan,

1139
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: you know, Kick Cutt, he's his favorite rapper from from

1140
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: Shaker Heights and then Joe. Actually, if you if you

1141
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: go back and look at the tape from the Combined,

1142
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: you know, he admitted that he was actually a Browns

1143
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: fan for a little bit and then talks to one

1144
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: of his close friends and said that was definitely a

1145
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: phase for him in high school where he he switches

1146
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: allegiance from the Saints to the Browns. And you know,

1147
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: I talked to his dad, Jimmy for that story, and

1148
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: he said, it's not something that he's gonna have to

1149
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: bring up the Joe going into this week's game. It's

1150
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: something that's gonna be on his mind. And you know,

1151
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: the States are gonna be high for the Bengals. Not

1152
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: only you know, have to have the Browns frankly just

1153
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: had their number the last couple of years. But the

1154
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: Bengals have owen two so far in A and C

1155
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: North play. And you you know, my buddy Jake Trotter

1156
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: and I who covered the Browns, we were at breakfast

1157
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: at Grumpies this morning going over the schedule and and

1158
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: and and he said, if you look at that Baltimore schedule,

1159
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: you know it's pretty light in the Bengals. They're gonna

1160
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: have some tough games still on the docket. They got

1161
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: Kansas City, they still got Buffalo. You never know what

1162
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is gonna be like. And they're owen two

1163
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 1: so far in the division. Last year, they swept Baltimore

1164
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,919
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, you know, dropped the first game to both

1165
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: of those teams. I don't know if the Bengals can

1166
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: afford to go oh and three indivisional play and and

1167
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: potentially have a shot to win the Vision. So I

1168
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: think there's a lot riding on this game tonight. Listen

1169
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,919
Speaker 1: in for Bengals team they've won four or five and

1170
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: and everybody's talking about the offense. But I want to

1171
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: ask you been about this defense. It's the only defense

1172
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: in the league that's not allowed to touchdown in the

1173
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: second half, and it's a it's a defense that you

1174
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: know and and correct me if I'm wrong. But I

1175
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 1: think in my research, only Trey Hendrickson has even been

1176
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: to a Pro Bowl of anybody on this defense. He

1177
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: went last year. And yet you know a lot of veterans,

1178
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: a lot of just really solid players who where the

1179
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: whole is greater than the sum of the parts. Why

1180
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: have they been so effective this season? You know, I

1181
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: think that you've got to give them a lot of credit.

1182
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: For the front officers a lot of credit Number one

1183
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: for finding guys who really fit this scheme pretty well.

1184
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: I think You've got to give defensive coordinator Louiana Rumo

1185
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. He was a guy who was

1186
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: under a lot of fire at the beginning of last year,

1187
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: after you know, lacklush for a couple of years. They

1188
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: spent a lot of money in free agency. Brandon guys

1189
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: like Trey Hendrickson, you know, Chit Woozy, a DJ reader

1190
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: was another big addition, you know, and somebody like Eui

1191
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: Apple who won't be playing you. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

1192
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: imagine he played tonight. He's listed as doubtful, hasn't practiced

1193
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: throughout the week extensively, you know, even Eli they brought

1194
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 1: him in as a reserve corner behind Trey Waynes, was

1195
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: a high price free agent. When Wayne didn't work out,

1196
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,479
Speaker 1: they went and turned to Apple and he was able

1197
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: to play well enough towards the end of last season,

1198
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: had that big play against Kyree Hill in the a

1199
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Speaker 1: f C Championship game that really was one of the

1200
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: pivotal moments during that Super Bowl run. And so I

1201
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: think they really quickly realized that this defense need to

1202
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: be better. They went out and spent the money to

1203
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: make it better. And then Louie and Rumo has done

1204
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: a good job of of really being flexible, you know,

1205
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: being having an adaptive scheme to what whatever it's gonna

1206
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: need to be for any given week. And the players

1207
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 1: really enjoyed playing for him. And not only have the

1208
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: Bengals not given up a touchdown uh in the first

1209
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 1: seven games of the season, they're the first team to

1210
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: have that kind of start since nineteen fifty according to

1211
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: the All of Sports Bureau. So you know, we'll see

1212
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: if the Bengals can continue. This is sports start and

1213
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: when you look at it, it's a It's a big

1214
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: reason why this keeps point differential is one of the

1215
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: best in the NFL right now, Ben, you're the best pal.

1216
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. Hey, always a pleasure.

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01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: Good catching up. The Great Bend Baby covers ESPN for

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Speaker 1: want to beat the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that can

1247
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: absolutely score the football, you cannot give them short fields,

1248
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,959
Speaker 1: you cannot give them extra possessions, and so we must

1249
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: take care of the football. It's the most important factor

1250
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: in determining the Brown's ability to win. They are eleven

1251
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: and two all time under Kevin stefancy when they don't

1252
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. They've been eleven and two for

1253
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: four straight weeks. Because four straight weeks they've turned the

1254
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: football over four straight weeks. They have lost this year too.

1255
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: And oh, when we don't turn the football over, oh

1256
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 1: and five when we do. Feels pretty simple. That's the difference.

1257
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: That's number one, Number two, sack, hit, and disrupt Joe Burrow.

1258
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: Browns three and oh all time against Burrow. Big reason

1259
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 1: has been their ability to generate pressure, sacks, and turnovers.

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01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 1: The Browns of sack Borrow twelve times in those three wins,

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01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: with at least three sacks in every game, including a

1262
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: five sack performance in last year's sixteen win in Cincinnati.

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01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: Those negative plays and pressure in general are critical to

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01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: slowing down Burrow, who has already been sacked twenty five

1265
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: times this year, third most in the NFL. Heading in

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01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: the week eight, when I bring from a clean pocket,

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01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna completions eight yards in attempt eleven touchdowns quarterback

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Speaker 1: rating of one oh six when under durest the completion

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01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: percentage drops to fifteen. Is rating still a solid eighty nine,

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01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: but down significantly. Oh and by the way, Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: has one he has won heredis I don't get bear

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01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 1: with me for one second. Joe Burrow has won seven

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01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: straight games in which he has a quarterback rating of

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Speaker 1: one hundred or more. In fact, in his last ten

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01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: games when he has a quarterback rating of honor, they

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01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: are seven and oh. When a score reck rating is

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01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: under hundred, they are oh and three. Pretty simple. Feels

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01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: like that would be important to go ahead and do that. Uh.

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01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: Last year, the Browns used the nickel blitz to get

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01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: home quickly on Burrow likes to get the ball on

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01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 1: under two and a half seconds. Troy Hill had two

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01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: sacks and three quarterback hits. Should also be noted that

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01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: Burrow has turned the ball over in all three games

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01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: against the Browns three interceptions, two lost fumbles, as well

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01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: five total turnovers and three games and the Browns are

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01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: gonna need to get another one to get a win.

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01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: And then finally, this one is more theoretical than anything

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01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: specific or statistically driven, but special teams needs to be

1289
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: a net neutral at least and if not, a net positive.

1290
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: Far too often this season, the third phase of the game,

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01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: special teams has been a negative for the Browns, whether

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01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: it's been a failure to recover an onside kick, a

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01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: blown coverage assignment that leads to a big return, muffing punts,

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: missing critical field goals and extra points. The brown special

1295
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: teams have too often been a contributing factor to the

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01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: team's five losses. The Bengals, They've got a solid return game.

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01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: They've got a veteran punter and Kevin Hubert. They have

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01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: a deadly field goal kicker and Evan McPherson has already

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01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: made fifty nine yard of this year and has a

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01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: walk off five walk off game winning kicks, including one

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01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: that sent them to the Super Bowl. You have two

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01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: in that playoff run. There are top ten scoring offense,

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 1: there are top ten scoring defense. Their special teams is

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01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,959
Speaker 1: at least net neutral, hence they've won four the last

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01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 1: five games. The Browns need to at least be neutral

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01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 1: and special teams with the Bengals, and if it can

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01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: be a net positive, I think it will finally go

1308
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: a long way to helping this football team win. Well

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Speaker 1: said on you game Day forecast, brought to you by Carrier,

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Speaker 1: a doy cool temperatures in the low sixties by kickoff

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Speaker 1: at eight fifteen. That's pretty good. It's great, especially because

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Speaker 1: it looked earlier in the week like there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a lot of rain, and it looked kind of nasty

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01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: and cold, and it's gonna be yeah, sixties, it'll be

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01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: wonderful conditions. And the Browns are gonna go after and

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01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: have to take care of of business. And we saw

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01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: a wild week in the NFL with some wild finishes

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01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: and the Browns you seed to figure out how to

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01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: be on the right side of that finish tonight. Yeah,

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01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,959
Speaker 1: they do. It's It's funny. When I looked outside and

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01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: got ready to come in here today, my assumption was

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01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: that it was like forty eight somewhere in that nick

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01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: of the woods, and so I was pleasantly surprised to

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: have it be in the sixties upon upon coming out.

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Speaker 1: So it should be a great night down there. Browns

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Speaker 1: Will you depend on the Brown's win? You can always

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01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: depend on oh b M. They'll tackle any size office

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01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: called two and six two thousand, or visit Ohio Business

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01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: Machines dot com. We were talking about this last week

1343
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,120
Speaker 1: when we had Bernie on, and you think about like

1344
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 1: the apex of this rivalry was him and Marty versus

1345
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: Wish and Boomer. That that was a certainly think about

1346
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, Whie, you live in Cincinnati, you don't leave

1347
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 1: him Cleveland, and you think about all of the things

1348
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: that that lead to that. And I think it's interesting

1349
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 1: how if you look at the last you know, four

1350
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: years pens and you try to or thirty plus year

1351
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: since you try to say why they were never able

1352
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: to get aligned to where they were both and we

1353
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 1: thought we were headed there. We thought it was gonna

1354
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 1: be Baker and Borrow for a while and and that

1355
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,439
Speaker 1: won't change certainly when d Sean comes back next year.

1356
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: Then you that's when it should be set off where

1357
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: you have, you know, two elite quarterbacks playing for both

1358
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: teams and and fighting for the division and all of

1359
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: the things that come with that. But um, that is

1360
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 1: kind of the window of when they were both at

1361
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: a very very high level. All right, Time to bring

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01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: in the half on the Twisted te Hotline brought to you

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Speaker 1: of the Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted Cleveland. Uh, half,

1365
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:40,200
Speaker 1: great talk to you, my friend. What did how much

1366
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: did you see of of Joe Hayden and your former

1367
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: teammate here you'll be honored tonight at the game and

1368
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: um him him here at the at the facility on Saturday.

1369
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: We talked to him earlier in the show. He was

1370
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: really moved by all of it. Uh. What type of

1371
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: teammate was he? And and what was it like? Uh?

1372
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: Is it like seeing him be honored by by the

1373
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: organization the way that he will be tonight. No half, No,

1374
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna remember all that. No, but it was good.

1375
01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: It was good. Yeah, I enjoyed the setup. Yeah, it

1376
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,240
Speaker 1: was a good setup. It's a great question, like we're

1377
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: gonna get a great answer. I think you were going

1378
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 1: to get up terrific question. Bo. No, it's not burning.

1379
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: Yeah it was Bernie. I would have Bernie appreciates one

1380
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: like he loves question for sure. Listen the half, they'll

1381
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: talk about it. But this is an important game. We've

1382
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: got to have this one whatever it is. However, it

1383
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 1: really doesn't even matter. That's the thing. We've Oh, well

1384
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: we've done this well and we've been efficient here. Yeah

1385
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: we lost. Like it doesn't it's binary. It's binary. The

1386
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers who pulled off one of the most unbelievable

1387
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: moments in the NFL in that game, p J Walker

1388
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: throwing a d J. Moore when it was game over

1389
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. By the way, since we have a

1390
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: few seconds here, can I do a quick rant? Yeah? Please,

1391
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: I'd like ah know the place and time him just like, yes,

1392
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: all of it. Just like earlier in the game or

1393
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 1: after that touchdown when the Falcons try to help Mary

1394
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: and yeah, there was a little bit of contact down

1395
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: there on a ball that wasn't really catual. They did

1396
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: not call pass interference, even though maybe you could have

1397
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,560
Speaker 1: said it was by the letter of the law pass interference.

1398
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: D J. Moore just did a one in a five

1399
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 1: thousand thing. Let him take his helmet off. It's not

1400
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: affecting anybody, it's not hurting anybody, like, just chill out

1401
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: like that is a moment that allows again, a game

1402
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 1: that is not personal, allows you to have a personality

1403
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: type of a moment in an unbelievable situation from raw emotion.

1404
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: He didn't taunt anybody, like if he got in their face.

1405
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: That's one thing. He was just excited and want to

1406
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: celebrate this teammates. So then you got a fifteen yard penalty.

1407
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: Now the guy then misses the extra point that would

1408
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: have won the game. Brutal. But just let that go, like,

1409
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 1: let it go. There has to be some common sense, supply,

1410
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. Let that go. Great moment, unbelievable moment.

1411
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: Of course, there's gonna be some emotion. Just let it go.

1412
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: He didn't tell him. Mean, now, if he took his

1413
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: helmet off and started telling the guys on the Falcons. Hah,

1414
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,719
Speaker 1: you let me get behind you. You're a bunch of bozos. Okay,

1415
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 1: you throw a flag, but he didn't do that. Yeah,

1416
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: it's like getting pulled over for six over on an

1417
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: empty highway. Come on, right, what what are we doing? Yes?

1418
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: Did I anihilate the speed limit technically? Yes? But what

1419
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: are we doing? What are we doing? We all know

1420
01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: that I'm more than you. Let that go. Number two.

1421
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 1: That game was so ridiculously heart wrenching for the Carolina Panthers,

1422
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: who would have been in first place first place if

1423
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 1: they win that game in that division at poor guy misses,

1424
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: then he misses an extra point, literally missed an extra

1425
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: point in overtime. A kicker just sad. Yeah, I mean

1426
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,320
Speaker 1: it's what I mean, right, it's this is a pretty

1427
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: crazy league week to week, and hopefully we can have

1428
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: a little bit of crazy tonight. Uh Hafi, Before we

1429
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: had you on, I set you up about Joe Hayden

1430
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: and you're former teammate being honored tonight signing a contract

1431
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:04,519
Speaker 1: with the Browns. We can retire brown He spent the

1432
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 1: weekend here was at the Calves game last night. Um,

1433
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 1: what do you recall about Joe the teammate. What does

1434
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: it mean to have him in in the in the

1435
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 1: building tonight being honored as a Brown nailed it, nailed

1436
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: it for the second time. And I got to hear

1437
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: both of them, yeah, literally talking. I was talking to

1438
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: Madison and she put me over and then somehow my

1439
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: voice was stolen, like Ariel a little movement, but very

1440
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 1: very excited to have Joe Hayden in Cleveland tonight. One

1441
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: of my favorite teammates of all time. And there's not

1442
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: many guys on the defensive side of the football that

1443
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: I got along with real well, and certainly not the

1444
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,480
Speaker 1: guys that I hung out with on the defensive secondary,

1445
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: but Joe Hayden was one of the exceptions. And I

1446
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: think it was just because this infectiousness about him. His

1447
01:11:56,640 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 1: personality was so upbeat, optimist, happy, positive, and when we

1448
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 1: were going through some of our tough times when he

1449
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: was there, like he was one of those guys in

1450
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball that always brought great effort,

1451
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: great preparation, and he brought an energy to practices and

1452
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: games that a lot of times it's hard to find

1453
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: that fake energy when the season's pretty much over you're

1454
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: already out of the playoffs, but you still got a

1455
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,280
Speaker 1: job to do. And he was one of those leaders

1456
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football. And he always

1457
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 1: had a love of Cleveland that I really identified with

1458
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: because that was kind of the same love that I had.

1459
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: We were both, you know, drafted into Cleveland. We didn't

1460
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 1: have a connection before we came to town. But when

1461
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: when Joe was playing for the Steelers, he would still

1462
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: get like charter vans and buses for the players and

1463
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 1: the Steelers and him and his buddies would come to Cleveland.

1464
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: They wouldn't tell anybody, but they did. They loved coming

1465
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: to the city of Cleveland, going to CALVS games, going

1466
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: out about town, hitting the restaurants. And I didn't expect

1467
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: Joe to want to be retired as a Cleveland Brown

1468
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: to come back and do this, But now that I

1469
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: think about it, like it just makes perfect sense, because

1470
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: there's almost no it was more Cleveland than Joe Hayden

1471
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: and more embraced by this team in the city than

1472
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 1: than he was. He really was a special guy, and

1473
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: we're certainly excited to celebrate him before we keep going, though,

1474
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 1: half I wanted to know what was the half Family

1475
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: Halloween looking like this year. Well, costume was, oh it's great.

1476
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: Oh man, so the white the and I we had

1477
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: the adult party, which is always good to kind of separate.

1478
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 1: You gotta have the adult party where you imbibe a

1479
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 1: little bit more than the children's party, where it's more

1480
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: you know, pops and candy. Um, so the adult one,

1481
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 1: Um we were and I was I grew up with

1482
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,639
Speaker 1: fat that was very dirty and it looked like more

1483
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,599
Speaker 1: like ted Lasso down and out since the show hasn't

1484
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 1: come back yet. Um, but we had a great time

1485
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: doing it. And I think there's her name back. I'm

1486
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: so good with names. I can't remember who my life

1487
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: dressed up has. But she looked great. Let me tell you.

1488
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 1: She had a big beautiful blue business suit dressed thing

1489
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:17,440
Speaker 1: on it. So she was the boss. The boss. Yeah,

1490
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 1: it's been so I can't remember what her name is,

1491
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: but a whole family. So my wife's family was the

1492
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,719
Speaker 1: original lovers of What About Bob? And then she showed

1493
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: exactly it. Yeah, so I'm tru le Marvin, so terrible

1494
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 1: mustache and did like a terrible beard. So, oh my goodness, gracious,

1495
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: do you have do you have a bust of Sigmund

1496
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 1: Freud over the fireplace. Of course, obviously we want we

1497
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:59,719
Speaker 1: don't stare at any expenses on Halloween. I'm sure hopefully

1498
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: we'll se you have a great documentary, and I hopefully

1499
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: we see him off. Is there any way we can

1500
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 1: talk you into, you know, maybe rolling with this mustache

1501
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: because I saw some images over the weekend. I think

1502
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: it looks fantastic. I'm with you, guys. I think it's

1503
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: the best thing I've ever put on my face. Uh

1504
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: in college certainly, and uh it's been really a lot

1505
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: of fun. I think it's transmissions nicely into November. Even

1506
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: though my kids are afraid of me and they won't

1507
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: keep me. A hug in my life says to shave

1508
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,760
Speaker 1: it immediately. I'm kind of growing at catched to it

1509
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, like we grew up in

1510
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: the generation were yes, yes, what you did, and I

1511
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: think it should come back. I like it. I like it. Yeah,

1512
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 1: there's a little tom selleck, a little there is. I mean,

1513
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 1: I like you get you get a little caterpillar up there.

1514
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 1: That's a win. My dad, I've never seen my dad

1515
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: without a mustache. You've never seen your dad. He's ever

1516
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 1: seen his dad without a mustache. He looks fantastic. Love

1517
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,440
Speaker 1: how happy? Of course he looks happy. He's got a mustache.

1518
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 1: It does seem gonna mustachches do bring a great joy,

1519
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,560
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. Yeah, Joe, the chance for

1520
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 1: joy tonight. This is a Bengals team that is playing

1521
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: without their most dangerous weapon in Jamar Chase. Uh. And

1522
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: yet they still have an elite quarterback. They still have

1523
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: two elite receivers. Uh. They have a great running back,

1524
01:16:13,439 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: good at tight end. Uh. They've had They've been hitting

1525
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: their stride the last two weeks. Does last let me

1526
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: ask you this, does last week's recipe against Baltimore give

1527
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: you a shot? And should you win if you do

1528
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: what you did last week against Baltimore minus the turnover?

1529
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: Is that the script? I think it is a little bit.

1530
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:37,600
Speaker 1: I think not having Jamar Chase obviously cannot be overstated

1531
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: because he's sort of their answer when they get blitzed.

1532
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow has been great the second half of this

1533
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: you know, first part of the season already against blitz

1534
01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 1: or against only a four man rush, but earlier on

1535
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 1: in the season that was not the case. But with

1536
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. His ability to just find him quickly when

1537
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: somebody pitches has really discouraged a lot of teams from

1538
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: Let's But without Jamaar Chase, I wouldn't be surprised if

1539
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: the Burns dial up a few zone blitzes, dial up

1540
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,120
Speaker 1: a little bit more blitzing than you expect, especially with

1541
01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: an offensive line who's played better. But there's still those

1542
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:14,600
Speaker 1: problems there. I mean, there's still the same dudes that

1543
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: are getting rolled out there. So it's just a function

1544
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 1: of Joe Burrow is getting rid of the ball, the

1545
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase and hurting teams, and they tried the blitz

1546
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: so that they couldn't do it, so then the offensive

1547
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 1: line doesn't get exposed, but all of a sudden, Chase

1548
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: is gone, and it really changes the dynamic of what

1549
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: you can do from a defensive game plan standpoint. And

1550
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,600
Speaker 1: I think that really will give Miles Garrett an opportunity

1551
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 1: to get home because he's been a difference maker and

1552
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: a lot of these Bengals matchups in the last few

1553
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: years with his ability to get to the quarterback and

1554
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: then force turnovers with stack bumbles. Ye had done it

1555
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: twice against Joe Burrow the sack, strip fumbles as Miles

1556
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: Garrett in those three meetings in the Hops point Burrow

1557
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: This year hud and twenty one rating against the blitz

1558
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 1: over not almost nine yards attempt, five touchdowns, no interceptions.

1559
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: But off last year we did something where we blitzed

1560
01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 1: our nickel a lot against them and Troy Hill had

1561
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 1: two sacks, three quarterback hits. What does blitzing and nickel

1562
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,760
Speaker 1: do to a quarterback to and to an offensive line?

1563
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 1: And why do you think that was effective? And can

1564
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: it be again? Well, one thing that Joe Brow does

1565
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: a job of is is he eats up too high

1566
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 1: safety looks the middle field open. So a lot of

1567
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: teams will play like cover one, Cover three, um. But

1568
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: what happens then is they've got the speeds to be

1569
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 1: able to go down the field because four verticals is

1570
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: you know, if anybody plays Madden, that's your best way

1571
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: to attack a three deep look. And so they murder

1572
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,000
Speaker 1: that look. So like teams were wondering what do we do?

1573
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: So they just saying, all right, I'm trying to tegula everything.

1574
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:48,320
Speaker 1: Let them run the football. But Joe Mixon hasn't really

1575
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: got going this season. Um. And when you get that

1576
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: Michael blitz. You can just usually tell the quarterbacks wherever

1577
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: the blitz is coming from, that's where you're hot is

1578
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: because that's where they can see is um And so

1579
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 1: I think you might see a little bit more of

1580
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:04,760
Speaker 1: that from the Browns because it had been effective and

1581
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: because it's something that can get turned into his zone blitz.

1582
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:11,799
Speaker 1: So what a zone b listz is? Right, Obviously everybody

1583
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 1: knows the opposite of the man, but so everybody's the

1584
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 1: main coverage. You've got one safety in the middle of

1585
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:18,560
Speaker 1: the field and you're bringing five six guys. But a

1586
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: zone litz, it's can look on umulated pressure, which is

1587
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,439
Speaker 1: something that you hear a lot in college football, which

1588
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: basically it's like it's a blitz. So the quarterback now

1589
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 1: is thinking, gotta throw hot, gotta get the ball out

1590
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: of my hand. But in reality, you're bringing only four

1591
01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 1: guys or sometimes just five guys, so you can play

1592
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 1: zone behind. You don't have to match up because you

1593
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: still have enough numbers behind it. And it's a way

1594
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: to confuse a quarterback and force him to hold out

1595
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: of the football a little bit. And that's the one

1596
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: thing you can say about Joe Burrow that he hasn't

1597
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 1: been great at is He's not always good at getting

1598
01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: rid of the football right. He hasn't had a very

1599
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: offensive line, so that's part of it. But he takes

1600
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:55,639
Speaker 1: a lot of hits because he hangs onto the ball,

1601
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: because he trusts his guys. It feels like you can

1602
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: throw the football down the field and anytime him you

1603
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: can confuse him and make him think just extra half

1604
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 1: a second about where this cut is coming from? Where

1605
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: do I need to find my answers? That gives Miles

1606
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: chants to get home. I think that's what they're trying

1607
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 1: to do because they know that turnovers is going to

1608
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 1: be the difference in this game. Half. How difficult is

1609
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,519
Speaker 1: a night like tonight that you the report over the

1610
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: weekend that we'll we'll be willing to You know, we've

1611
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: been listening to offers for Kareem Hunt, will grant his

1612
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,760
Speaker 1: trade requests from earlier in the year. You have the

1613
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: trade deadline tomorrow. Could be other guys on our roster

1614
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: that that could be playing somewhere else as soon as tomorrow. UM,

1615
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 1: take us inside the locker. I mean, you're all pros, right,

1616
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: and we all say, oh, your professional it's all on

1617
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,640
Speaker 1: the brochure, but I mean your people too. Kareem has

1618
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,719
Speaker 1: been an integral part and part of the emotional engine

1619
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 1: of this team. If this is it for him, I

1620
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 1: think it's gonna have quite the toll. Um what what

1621
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: what do you make of of what it will be

1622
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: like tonight? A little bit in that locker room, certainly emotional.

1623
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: I reflect back. Um. Actually, some of the best games

1624
01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: we've played as far as how the team played over expectations,

1625
01:21:01,720 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 1: were some of those last games in the season, and

1626
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 1: a lot of times it was Week's seventeen, right because

1627
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,560
Speaker 1: we weren't going to platoffs. However, there's a bunch of

1628
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: guys in that locker room they care deeply about, did

1629
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, based on their fact situation and how the

1630
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: NFL works, they don't said the last chance to suit

1631
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: it up, strap the chin, strap on, and go out

1632
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,120
Speaker 1: and play with your buddies, right. I remember, go way

1633
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,600
Speaker 1: back to high school my freshman year. We've made it

1634
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: all the way to state championship and going into the

1635
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 1: last game of the season, the state finals, and my

1636
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:31,639
Speaker 1: coach said, hey, this is the last time you ever

1637
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: strap it up with these guys, you know, and as

1638
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: a kid like, I don't really think about that until

1639
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're in that moment and your

1640
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: face with that reality, and then it's like, Wow, I

1641
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 1: want to do something that's memorable. I want this memory

1642
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 1: of this special group. Because no matter how much you

1643
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: love your your teammates, you spend so much time with them,

1644
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: did you have all these memories right? And how do

1645
01:21:54,160 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: I want to remember our time together? Becomes really important,

1646
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 1: and I think Kareem being one of the leaders, certainly

1647
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: in the offense and also for the whole team, there's

1648
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that want to remember their time

1649
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 1: with Kareem Hunt very positively, and I think they will.

1650
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 1: But a lot of times it's that last taste that

1651
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,440
Speaker 1: remains the longest, and so it's going to be emotional

1652
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: because there there's a great chance that Creve Hunt gets

1653
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: traded um and they want to make sure that they

1654
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: send him out the rightway because they I think this

1655
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 1: team really loves him and they understand how much he's

1656
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: meant to this team since we got here. Absolutely, And

1657
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: you know, he's been limited to just twenty total yards

1658
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 1: the last two games, but a good career history against Cincinnati,

1659
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:39,560
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns in five games against them with both the

1660
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the Browns, and it would be nice for

1661
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: him if he is in fact, this will be his

1662
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: last game with Cleveland Browns to go out in a

1663
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: win and to go out its productive like he was

1664
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,200
Speaker 1: on that Thursday night a couple of years ago where

1665
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 1: we just ran Chub and Hunt at the Cincinnati Bengals

1666
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 1: and punished them into submission. Uh. I want to ask

1667
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: you about one guy, Trey Hendrickson, what would be your

1668
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,520
Speaker 1: game plan for stopping him? He has been incredibly productive.

1669
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 1: He's got three NF sacks to lead the team thirty

1670
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,280
Speaker 1: one sack since the start of season, behind only t J.

1671
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: Watt and Miles Garrett. And he's the guy that on

1672
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: that line stands out as the playmaker and the one

1673
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 1: who could, you know, disrupt our offense and lead to

1674
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: one of those critical turnovers. As much as I want

1675
01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 1: to watch Mary Cooper versus Lousier because I think that's

1676
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: gonna be a great matchup and that'll be fun of

1677
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,040
Speaker 1: Washington second year, I know boys are gonna slide over

1678
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 1: that left tackle position because JEDD's coming off the worst

1679
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: game of the season. He played really well early on

1680
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: and he struggled last week. I think he even admitted it, um,

1681
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: So this is an opportunity to bounce back. This is

1682
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right in college, you play one, maybe two

1683
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 1: All American All Big Ten type players every season, yet

1684
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 1: in the rest of them you got a bunch of cupcakes.

1685
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: But in the NFL, man the hits coming like Trey

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01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: Hendrickson this week, and he's one of the best at

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01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: getting only always have the big sack numbers because he

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01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: doesn't have that elite closing speed that Miles does. You know,

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01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,640
Speaker 1: that four or five speed that can turn a hit

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01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 1: or a pressure into a sack. But that doesn't make

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01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 1: the job any less challenging because he is a big, physical,

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01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 1: hot motor guy that's pretty slippery when he's in past

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01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:22,439
Speaker 1: protection and when um he's got especially a bigger offensive

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01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: lineman on him, he can be tough to find surface

1695
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: areas to hit and to grab onto. So for Jed,

1696
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big game and it's gonna show

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01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 1: us a lot about his focus, his ability to pay

1698
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 1: attention to the little details, because that's what you need

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01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 1: to be able to. That brings it everything snap with

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01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: the intensity that Trey Hendrickson doubt. So I would say,

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Speaker 1: if you see Jed slipping it all mentally with from

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01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: a focus standpoint, Trey is gonna take advantage of it.

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01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: So this is a great measuring stick for Jed to

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Speaker 1: see if he's learned any of the lessons that he

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01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 1: hopefully learned from last week and he's able to carry

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01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: it over and make the corrections this week. Half, you're

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Speaker 1: the best, buddy. Yes, enjoy your Halloween. Hopefully you get

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Speaker 1: a win here tonight. To make it better the Halloween,

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Speaker 1: go brownie real quick after the half ceremony. I would

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Speaker 1: really like for you one Halloween to go Baywatch David

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Speaker 1: Hassel half, grow a little bit of a mullet and

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Speaker 1: say no, don't hassle the half to everybody. I think, God,

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Speaker 1: I think that seems like a must. I think so,

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Speaker 1: I like, I may have to bring that over to Germany.

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Speaker 1: And actually, my kids are laughing. I'm going to the

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Speaker 1: German game in a couple of weeks, which is gonna

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01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: be really cool, so I'm covering for then. But you know,

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Speaker 1: David has Off, he's big over Germany, huge, huge, huge.

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Speaker 1: gonna become big in Germany and then you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go over there and you're gonna do the David

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Speaker 1: hassle Off thing in Germany. And I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't worry that it happening, But you never know. I dressed.

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