WEBVTT - Ms. Marvel and The Boys Finales + Stranger Things Season 4 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:00.520 Warning. 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.120 This podcast contains spoilers for the finale of Miss Marvel, 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.600 for the finale of Boys season three, and for all 0:00:09.680 --> 0:00:13.720 of The Stranger Things season four, So be warned. If 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:16.400 you haven't watched any of that stuff, please watch it 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:18.160 and come back because it's a fun episode and I 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:19.639 think you'll like it, but we don't want to spoil you. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.920 Oh. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:39.680 My name is Jason Sepsi, and welcome ext to a 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.280 Vision the Crooked podcast where. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:44.639 We dive all the way down to the. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:48.040 Upside down, crawling up the ladder and then falling down 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:51.320 as gravity reverses it to your favorite shows, movies, comics 0:00:51.320 --> 0:00:55.480 of pop culture. Today's episode, we're gonna such Stranger Things 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.440 and the previously on we're gonna go to the airlock 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:01.639 where we're gonna talk about Boys, the Bowl Please season three, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.920 and the Ms Marvel finale. And also we're going to 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.560 take a victory lap. Who am I going to take 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.319 a victory lap with? I'm going to take a victory 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.759 lap right now with the Comics Encyclopedia, the number one 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:20.119 comics talker. She's writing, she's writing for outlets, she's writing 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.800 her own comics. She's a creator, a producer, and an 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:29.280 all around genius of nerd stuff. Please welcome to the stage, 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:30.000 Rosie Night. 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:39.120 Hello. Wow to be introduced like that by the Jason conception, imagine. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:44.240 Imagine who could have dream? Rosie? How are you? 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.000 I'm good, I'm happy to be a a wild day 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:50.320 with that MS Marvel finale coming, my god, like that, 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:53.360 and then nobody was expecting it. And we just coming 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.440 off the boys and we are the things. 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.559 We get into that we write. 0:01:58.000 --> 0:01:59.960 We need to make t shots, you know, like a 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:06.520 the Magni. I was right, and now we will get 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:06.920 into that. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:09.440 But first let's get into Stranger Things. 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:16.079 Okay, Stranger Things season four, Uh, creative of course by 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:19.600 the the Duffer Brothers, starring Winoda Ryder, David Harbor, Milly, 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:24.959 Bobby Brown, the the incredible Stretchable Finn Wolf Hart Got Madrazo, 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.800 my good friend Dustin, I love him so much, and 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.200 of course the rest of them, including Myahawk, jo Keery, 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:37.040 Charlie Heaton, Sadie Sink Hope you're doing well, Max. Uh, 0:02:37.320 --> 0:02:40.360 No recap to speak of, but let's just you know, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:44.120 our good friends. They faced off against Vecna from different 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:49.120 locations Nevada, Russia over in Hawkins. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:50.240 Uh. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:51.720 And they did it. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:56.400 They it was a multi part plan to lure Vecna 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:05.000 into Max's memories. UH eleven chipped in, of course over 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:10.280 in Russia, our buddies chipped in by when Joyce realized, hey, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.079 hive Mind, I recognize those monsters. We can help them 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:17.600 by we can help them weaken the enemy, because if 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.919 we hurt these hive mind creatures, it. 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.639 Will it will hurt everything. And it was fantastic. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.560 And I'll tell you as I was rewatching it this weekend, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:32.600 I the thing part of what why I liked it 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.400 so much is seasons one, two. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:37.880 Three are good. 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.960 I really I like them as well, but especially in 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.680 the early seasons I'm not gonna say they felt disposable, 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.080 but it felt like it was, you know, it was 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:51.440 so nostalgia based and call that based that I was 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:56.040 like that, it felt like what is here that is 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:57.920 just of this show and what. 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.360 The answer was the characters. 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.320 Yeah, Now in season four we've gotten to the point 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.960 where the nostalgia you know, we had these great moments 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:11.680 as in this like extended fight against Vekna that was 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:16.360 like operatic. It was operatic in the sense that, like everybody, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:22.000 every emotional moment, whether it's Joyce and Hopper, you know, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.680 Hopper finally like telling Joys like how he feels and 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:28.200 kissing her with a mouth that hasn't been brushed. 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:29.080 In as. 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:34.640 Because he's been in like in a prison, eating like 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:39.520 bed bugs and maggots and who lost those what It's like, 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.360 it's these moments where these characters who were always great 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:49.000 get to like create these mini loops of nostalgia from 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.720 within the very own series. And that's on top of 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.120 the nostalgia of all the callbacks to the pop culture 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.400 references and things that were happening at the time and 0:04:56.520 --> 0:05:01.640 like and you know, like uh, textures from from Nightmare 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:06.320 on ELM Street, h Spielberg stuff, Yeah, all that stuff. 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:10.840 And then on top of that the nostalgia of, oh, 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:12.520 I'm getting to hang out with these characters that I 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.719 legitimately think are great, and we're getting all these emotional 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:20.640 payoffs of them finally like just coming clean with each 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:26.080 other about how they feel. And then on top of 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:31.440 all of that, after four seasons, we now have, as 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.080 we said in previous episodes, like a real world that 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:38.960 has rules that we kind of know the shape of it, 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.960 just like just like Joyce being like, oh, Hi've bind 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.960 like as a callback, setting up a. 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:48.080 Rule of the world so we know how it works. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.120 All of that stuff is great, like all the popa 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.800 reveals all like the the mind Flayer flesh out. All 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.080 that stuff is just great and I really had a 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:58.479 great time. 0:05:58.560 --> 0:05:59.440 Oh my, sorry about that. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.360 Yeah, I think that Saul super regis a sawl just 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:04.839 pop something. And the thing that I think is a 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:07.760 really good point the characters have a history now, like 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:10.520 we know them, we care about them. It's about the 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.240 world building has grown alongside them. But something else that 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:17.080 you said that really spoke to me. I definitely agree. 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:21.440 Like seasons one into a cal but season three was 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:25.960 where I felt like the characters started to be on 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.160 journeys that I really really cared about, like Max and 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.839 Eleven having that friendships kind of building in the mall 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.240 and everything. I felt like that was really great from 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.279 that season. I loved Daker Montgomery as Max's brother. I 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.520 feel that was such a great inclusion and that really 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:45.560 added these emotional stakes. To me. It did something that 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:47.159 I think we're going to talk about with the boys 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:49.840 a lot this season. It did something that I think 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.440 the best versions of these shows can do using sci 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.760 fi and horror as a space to explore trauma because 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.480 so many of the reasons that we're drawn to horror 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:04.080 and we're onto these grotesque, gory things, whether it's classic 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:06.920 eighties style like Nightmare on Elm Street or like if 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.600 we're into really really bleak like Hostel style gore, Like 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.559 a lot of it comes from a place of wanting 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.160 to explore that stuff safely. So I think it's really 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:17.600 cool when these shows take the time to do that. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:20.920 And obviously that's what Vecna's playing on here is like 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:23.480 the notion of trauma, and then how do you beat 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.280 that is by healing, is by personal journey, is by 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.800 coming clean, you know, and we get really cool moments here. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.760 I wrote a really fun piece at Nerdict about putting 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:33.920 each of the characters into like a D and D class, 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.960 and I did so much research, and like, one of 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:38.800 the ones that I felt like is really strong here 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.440 is is Nancy as the fighter, Because yeah, she might 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.320 not be like a main stage but every time she's 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.800 there and you need her, she is there with that 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.760 shotgun shooting Vecner, I. 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:56.160 Love nothing more in any show, story book, whatever. Then 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:02.440 gearing up for the final fight, I just love that 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.559 shit like Monster Squad as a great one of those 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.840 home alone Like there's there's so many great Commando there's 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.720 great versions of this. And I'll tell you what man 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:18.360 Stranger things with Nancy pumping that shotgun and buying it, like. 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.040 At the store buying it, that. 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:27.400 Was an absolutely like top level gear up scene. 0:08:27.640 --> 0:08:30.000 Yeah, I was just like so excited, you know what 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:32.200 you actually speak to something I think is part of 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:35.320 why season four has been received this way, right, A 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.160 lot of the stuff that happens in this season feels 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:41.440 like they are earning and adding to the tropes and 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.120 the cannon rather than just doing a trope because you've 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.679 seen it elsewhere. Like you said that gearing up scene, 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.920 people are gonna put that alongside famous gearing up scenes. 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:50.160 Now. 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:52.760 They didn't just do it because other movies do it, 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:55.160 and I think as well, like I have just because 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.840 this is this has been like my entire timeline for 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.840 the last like since the show dropped. I mean, I've 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:04.959 never seen a character come in and gain the absolute 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:08.959 obsessive fandom of Eddie Munson Joe Quinn as Eddie. 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:14.120 Talk to Joe, talk to Dojak about it, right, Like 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:16.720 I mean that dojah. 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.680 Please look at him without the wig. It's not the 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:19.640 same Eddie. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:25.680 Eddie, he's a good looking guye did you see the 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.800 video of him really playing Master of PoCA. 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.559 Yeah, he played. He played guitar, and they asked him 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.080 that when he was one of the things they asked 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.760 him when he did the show, you know. And and 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:39.160 to me to see that character represented something that I 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.760 think has been at the fringes of Stranger Things for 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:43.920 a really long time, but in this series hit on 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.240 in a really really deep way, which is that notion 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.000 of being othered and being the outsider. 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:53.600 It's all these outsiders that yeah. 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.880 And Eddie brings them together in this way that is 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.400 completely selfless. And when you first meet him, you're like, okay, 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:01.440 it's the aies, he likes Metallica, Like is he a jock? 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:02.920 But then he has a do o back patch, so 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.839 I was like, he's probably a good guy. And then 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.839 but like he's actually this incredibly generous soul who's kind 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:12.040 of constantly fighting against the evil of Hawkins, which is 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:15.880 not just about the upside down, it's also about people's perceptions. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:18.480 It's about this satanic panic kind of stuff. So I 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:20.920 think they did so much interesting stuff here, and also 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:23.240 I know nothing should ever be like just to set 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.440 up the next season, but this does set up some 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.400 really interesting stuff with Will and Eleven that to me, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.240 I feel like was like hinted at from the first season. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.800 But I feel like we might really get to see 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.280 come to fruition in the next season. So I'm I 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:41.080 would be most happy to see to see those two 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:41.920 have a little team up. 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:45.600 I love the the like the little miniarc of Mike 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:50.120 being like, yeah, you know Eleven, you know obviously, you know, 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.040 like we're with We've been through so much together and 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.320 I like you so much, and then she's like love whatever, love, 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:56.960 and then like. 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:58.400 I can't even write it on the floor. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:10:59.800 I can't even write it on the floor. 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.839 And then finally, like he he pays it off while 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.760 everybody else is paying it off, and you get that 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:08.480 wonderful moment where he admits how he feels, you know, 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:10.359 he still feels that way. 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:12.200 You know, shouting out your little buddy. I think something 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.200 that's been really cool as well is to see Dustin 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.920 essentially go from like the comedy relief to being the 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.600 true leader of the party. Yeah, like that his his 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:25.120 pop culture knowledge and references. That is now his armory. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:26.880 It's kind of like us. It's like that's what he 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.800 can pull from to know stuff. He doesn't drop it 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:31.959 to be cool. He that is how he solves mysteries. 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.360 That's how he solves problems. You know, he's the inventor, 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:38.000 the artificer. I thought I have always loved Dustin, but 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.559 I was very happy for that journey and I'm really 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.640 excited to see that because Mike used to be the 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.120 kind of like, you know, go to leader. But I 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:46.600 would say Dustin is really that. 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:47.880 I loved him. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.320 I loved him, you know in the uh Luwer Away, 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.960 the demo bats mission with Master Puppets and eighty Months 0:11:55.000 --> 0:12:00.240 and on Guitar Light like rip to my guy of 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:06.600 how like delight there's fucking demons like around. We could 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.880 die at any moment, and he's just like. 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:12.480 Yeah, this is he and he's like this is sick, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:16.160 this is sick. That was just absolutely delightful. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.760 And I'll just say like I was a little bit 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.120 as so as a as a reformed guitar player myself 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:27.200 who went through a pretty heavy metallica phase uh and 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.800 used to hang out with metal heads. The big thing 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.960 as I'm sure Eddiemunson would tell you. With metal is 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:38.160 it's all downstrokes that right hand picking technique. You know, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.960 your hand, you know, moves up and down right, So 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.600 like the more efficient way to like do like a 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:46.839 is to go you know down up, down, down, you 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:51.400 know like that. But in Metal, that's wrong. Metal is 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:56.880 all downstrokes. Metal is all like punching down on the 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.520 ground again and again and again. And I was a 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:05.080 little disappointed that no like reporter, no journalist was like, 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:11.120 so okay, Joseph Quinn, great incredible video of you playing 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:14.840 Master Pubs. Are you doing all downstrokes as you were 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.320 supposed to do? 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:20.800 Joseph Quinn, please send Johns's on a postcard that straight vision. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.160 We want to know. Come on here and show us. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.839 Was it all downstrokes? We need to know that people 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:26.320 want to know. 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:30.680 Setting up for season five, which hopefully will not be 0:13:30.720 --> 0:13:33.400 spoiled by Legos this time. 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:34.679 We can dream. 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:37.720 Well, I just we should say so that's the Doffer 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:41.360 Brothers were a little miffed because some plot stuff from 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:44.600 season four was spoiled by Lego, which joined the club like. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.200 It happens to Star Wars. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:51.960 Strange, fantastic beast stock are strange, many many properties have 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:57.520 been spoiled by legos. But I am ben what's gonna 0:13:57.520 --> 0:14:02.360 happen with Max. All of that stuff like going like eleven, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:05.520 uh searching like. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:09.199 Her mind is going to be a big part of it. 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:13.120 And I think that as well, Like the I think 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:14.839 so from the outset, if we look at the D 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:16.720 and D stuff, which has always been really key to this, 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.840 Like you know, Will, I think was always their wizard 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.160 right and Eleven was a more generic like magic user 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.960 was how Mike saw her, but she's obviously a mage. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:28.640 I think the end with Will's like connection to Vector Veckner, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.120 I actually think we might see him kind of take 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.800 on like a good Hannibal reference, but like a Will 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.960 Graham like m Path style superhero. Well, he can hunt 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.200 down Vecna, he can team up to l and get 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:41.760 to have his. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.240 For those of you hero moment for those of. 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:48.640 Us, that's a reference to Will Graham from the Thomas 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.520 Harris Silence of the Lamb's novel Red Dragon is the 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:56.120 one from and then adapted later by Michael Mann and 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.840 Manhunter and then later became a series. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:14:59.280 And Will Graham is just. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:05.040 He's a fascinating character, because basically the whole thing with 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:09.560 him is he understands what drives a serial killer so 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:15.080 well because as Lecter is always kind of like teasing him, 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:18.560 he almost he's like an inch away from me, like 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:22.880 he could almost be one. And that dynamic with Will, 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.360 I think would be so amazing. 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.080 He's the ulti outsider and he can start to feel 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.280 it and that it can take advantage of those manipulations. 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:32.760 And I would just say, like, if you haven't watched 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.800 the the if you can believe it was on NBC, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:41.040 you'll never believe. It doesn't make sense. So it's so grotesque, 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.800 so brilliant, But that really explores that notion of of 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.000 of being an EmPATH to the point where it's like 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:49.560 a superhero and a curse and how it can be manipulated. 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.360 And I feel like they will be very smart to 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:52.440 bring in this element. 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.280 Yeah, I think that that's right on. I just need 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.800 them to get Will a better haircut. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:02.920 We can't just commit yeah, yeah, let's just commit to it. Please. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:04.800 Oh my god, no, it's so true. Did you see 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:08.120 that There was a really really hilarious meme and it 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.560 was like how could It was like somebody had posted 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:13.160 like how could Mike not see Will crying? And then 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.040 they were like, oh they could see, and it's just 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.920 the thumb with a bowl cut. Oh please, we need 0:16:19.960 --> 0:16:22.440 the Joyce than the Joyce Special. Please. 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:26.160 One more thing I want to shout out is my 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.120 friend Heidi was said this to She's like, I realized 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.160 like the last like three episodes that I just had 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:36.040 my fist clench the whole time, Like particularly the uh 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:40.280 Chapter eight Papa episode when Eleven went, you know, Papa's 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.280 running and the sniper is from the helicopters like shooting 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:49.480 at him, and Eleven is like shaking the helicopter with 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:54.240 her powers trying to throw That was as visually like 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.840 stunning as anything I've seen in a while. 0:16:58.480 --> 0:16:59.520 I was just like, this. 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.480 Looks great, Like I felt like I was watching this 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:04.439 on a big screen. Like some of the action sequence 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.399 in this were just so great. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.679 It's actually nice to see where that thirty million dollars 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:12.080 an episode went, you know, aside from cast which like 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.760 pay those kids, because something definitely more. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:20.000 Who has more leverage than these fucking kids? Right now? 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:25.720 You got five? What are you gonna do? Say, say Dustin? 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:27.640 Dustin died off screen. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.439 Yeah, like he's gone up to space, you know, like 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:35.240 that's the episode. But it's definitely one of those things 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.040 where like the other thing that this show has always 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:38.760 done really great from the beginning, which I think is 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.639 why targets people like me and you because this is 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.760 one of our favorite things. Found family, kids, yagtag group, 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.520 who you care about, who you would die for? This 0:17:47.600 --> 0:17:50.320 does that, Umbrella Academy does that. We're about to get 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:53.720 into how Miss Marvel really leans into that this episodeisode, 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.679 Like I love those stories. It goes back to the 0:17:56.840 --> 0:17:58.360 X Men, which has always been one of the most 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.520 important touch points for this show. You know. The first 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.480 episode of this season is called The hall Fire Club, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:05.119 a big you know, X Men reference, even though it 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:08.000 has historical resonance outside of that, it's also what D 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.200 and D Club is called. So it I just think 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:15.560 like there's so much in just those relationships that can 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.240 carry it, and that's kind of where the heart of 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:18.919 the show is. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:23.320 We were talking about we were talking about the the 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.280 the Norwegian movie Worst Person in the World before we 0:18:28.480 --> 0:18:31.320 hit record, and I was saying what I liked about 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:34.800 it was that it was less a plot driven movie 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:41.040 and more a movie in which everything turns on how 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:43.680 well the main character is fleshed out, and it's like 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.800 we've hit that. For me, Stranger Things has hit that 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:49.040 point where it's just like you just know who these 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.080 people are and it's so great to spend time with them. 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:57.760 I will say, here's my one. It's not even a disappointment. Lucas, man, 0:18:57.800 --> 0:18:59.040 you gotta have hands. 0:18:59.240 --> 0:19:03.080 How are you your ass? He won the fight. He 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:04.000 did win the fight. 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.960 I will say, though, bro, in terms of happened and 0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:11.480 in terms of that very aspect of the characters, I 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.240 would love to see them bring in some writers who 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:17.960 can really do justice to Lucas and Erica next season. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:20.280 That would be like my big gat. I also say, 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:22.600 like resurrect Eddie. I think that that that's what the 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:23.160 people want. 0:19:23.240 --> 0:19:26.320 I could bring him back and spooky ship. 0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.320 Like, that's what the people want, man, they're giving you 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:36.080 free that And next time Lucas gets to fight like 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:38.639 a like a dickhead jock who's been a piece of 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:40.320 ship for the entire season. 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:43.560 Instead of like, instead of making it like a like 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.560 a back and forth he saw battle. How about is 0:19:46.720 --> 0:19:52.040 Lucas just pummels the guy's face and then eventually that 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:53.920 guy's body gets destroyed. 0:19:53.920 --> 0:19:56.240 But I'm telling you. 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.320 Like, this is why just watch Lucas stop this guy 0:19:58.440 --> 0:19:59.240 for five weeks. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.960 That's the next step in this idea of like, look, 0:20:03.240 --> 0:20:06.239 people are racist, and there are ways of showing that 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.440 and the dangers of it and how terrible it is. 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:11.600 But you know what, everyone has seen. Everyone's seen black 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:14.560 people being victims of racism. Everyone's gotten to see the 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:17.119 horrors of that. Can we just see somebody stumping out 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.600 a racist I would love to see it. That's the 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:20.280 next step. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.960 I don't like there have been some critiques some of like, oh, 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:28.280 we're not exploring small town racism, bah blah b buh Okay. 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:32.120 I get it, Like that's that is an absolutely important 0:20:32.200 --> 0:20:34.600 thing to explore and to show at times. But I 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:36.960 also like again, like and I don't want to speak 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.280 for anybody, I'm speaking for myself, Like just from my 0:20:40.560 --> 0:20:46.479 personal experience that I can, I can interact with those ideas. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:50.760 With that history, with stories like that, there's a million choices. 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:54.159 I really appreciate the fact that when I'm with my 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:58.679 friends from Hawkins, it's just the reality of this world 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:03.840 and it's and not to say disconnected from the real world. 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:08.120 But it's a different It's a more heightened pop culture 0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.600 inflected version of that world in which we can just 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:15.040 like enjoy this plot. And I would have enjoyed Lucas 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:19.840 playing a little bit more if Lucas would have not struggled. 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:27.240 My god, Lucas, you gotta Getty before season Deva is. 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.840 From that that power that this has of getting to 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.760 be distanced. Lucas doesn't get that freedom. But I'm really 0:21:32.800 --> 0:21:36.840 hoping Lucas and Max want to see it, Eleven want 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.800 to see it. Like there's things I want for these characters. 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.960 You know, I'm now a step and Eddie shipper, but 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:45.760 I like the Steve and Nancy stuff that they hinted at. 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.120 Come on, you're telling me, in any world, anyone's gonna 0:21:48.119 --> 0:21:50.360 go out with Jonathan instead of Steve. I think that's 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.560 the same way Will Will has a crush on Mike. No, 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:55.439 you would have a crush on Steve Stephen. 0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.480 Everyone would have a crush on one. 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:01.840 That is a character for the Ages like that is 0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:04.879 there was one thing from the beginning to now that 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:08.840 has always been consistently great. It is a character of 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.920 Steve going from the jockish, bully, popular kid to becoming 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:17.520 his caretaker leader, who who he respected. Even in these 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:19.560 moments of telling Nancy how he felt it was all 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:21.920 about her boundaries. This is how I feel. I don't 0:22:21.960 --> 0:22:23.320 want you to feel that way, but I need you 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:23.639 to know. 0:22:23.720 --> 0:22:26.439 I know I did wrong, absolutely so much. Steve. 0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:29.280 Yes, Steve's having a great time. Jonathan. I got to say, 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:31.240 next season. 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:34.880 I thought there was a second there where I thought 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:37.440 Steve was about to get topped off in the upside down. 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.680 I thought it was I thought it was about I 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.280 thought I thought it was about. 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:46.639 To go down. I'm talent. I'm telling you and listen, 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:47.760 has it ever happened before? 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.720 Let's make history, folks, Steve Nancy Like, next time we're 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:52.919 down there, let's make history. 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:56.639 That's all I happened. There was a moment, the feeling 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.360 like it isn't that you can put up. You could 0:22:58.359 --> 0:22:59.879 put a warning beforehand. 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.040 Was watching this show? Okay, up next the airlock. 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:20.720 We're stepping out on the airlock to talk about the 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.439 Boys and Miss Marvel. First up season three of the Boys. 0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:28.920 The season three finale Instant White Hot Wild, written by 0:23:28.960 --> 0:23:32.000 Log and Richie and David Reid, directed by Sarah Boyd. 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:33.520 Here we go. 0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.080 Homelander lands at the farmhouse where his soup son Ryan Butcher, 0:23:37.119 --> 0:23:39.879 has been hiding under the care of Boys founder and 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:45.920 former Payback Team member and former CIA director Grace Moult. 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:47.160 Generally evil woman. 0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:48.600 She's done a. 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:50.879 Lot of bad shit and she's trying to make up 0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.320 for it, and she's not doing a great job. 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:54.400 She's doing a bad joke. 0:23:57.240 --> 0:24:00.000 Homelanders like, I just want to talk. When is Wendy 0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:00.880 ever believe that. 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:01.920 From this guy? Anyway? 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:07.199 This is Homelander. Grace and Ryan are terrified, clearly Homelander. 0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:14.000 It reacts with the iconic and stereotypical Homelander simmering rage. 0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.040 When Ryan refers to Malory as Aunt Grace, He's like, aunt, 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:21.119 okay whatever. Aunt Grace is like reaching for her cell phone, Homelander, 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:21.880 where this superhero? 0:24:21.960 --> 0:24:24.000 Here's it? He's like, don't even fucking do it. 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:31.480 Ryan asks Homelander in a really actually like whenever this 0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:34.080 show gets heartfelt, it's crazy. 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.640 But Ryan is really. 0:24:36.359 --> 0:24:39.080 The touchstone for a real emotion in this show, and 0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:41.359 he's like, Hey, you know, are you mad at me 0:24:41.760 --> 0:24:45.040 for you know the thing where I burned Stormfront? The 0:24:45.040 --> 0:24:47.600 woman you love, the Nazi woman you love into like 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:52.359 a little stump person with it was like melted face. 0:24:52.440 --> 0:24:54.640 And also my mom died in that incident or. 0:24:54.560 --> 0:24:56.520 It was mortally wounded. It was tough. Are you mad 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:59.119 at me for that? And Homelander's like, no, no, of 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:00.880 course not absolutely not. 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:05.240 Was I was I still masturbating to that stump Nazi. 0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:06.600 Earlier in the season. I was. 0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:10.120 But I'm not mad about that I killed. I'm Homelander, 0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:12.240 and you know what, I kill people all the time 0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:12.960 by accident. 0:25:13.119 --> 0:25:14.440 It's really not a big deal. 0:25:14.760 --> 0:25:17.320 I killed the whole passenger plane sort of by accident 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:20.440 once because I lasered through the pilot's skull and destroyed 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.480 the uh, the insurance panel. So that happens, And so 0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:25.119 I'm not mad at you. And they embrace and they 0:25:25.119 --> 0:25:30.600 fly off outside HQ pro Starlight protesters fired up by Starlights. 0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:31.840 Social media leaks. 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:36.360 A lot of social media meeks in these finales, yes, lot, 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.280 it's a lot of it. Are squaring up against pro 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:43.719 Homelander protesters. Meanwhile inside the building, the Deep and Ashley 0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:44.080 are like. 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:45.080 What the fuck do we do? 0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:51.959 Uh? The AG the the Attorney General General is coming here. Uh, 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:53.959 she's got a search warrant. 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:54.840 And when did man. 0:25:54.880 --> 0:25:56.720 You know it's serious when the Attorney General is coming 0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:57.280 in person. 0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.600 Yeah, uh, because I. 0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:03.240 Take video because of a TikTok video saying that Mave 0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.400 is not really in rehab, she is imprisoned in Vought HQ. 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.320 So they're like, what do we do. Here's what they do. 0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.280 They spray some kind of sedative into mave cell and 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.840 they're going to get her out of there. Meanwhile, Hughing 0:26:15.880 --> 0:26:19.040 and Butcher have their own concern. Soldier boy. Of course, 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:21.640 we've seen that this guy is suffering from a mighty, 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:25.000 mighty mighty case of PTSD, which is not an excuse 0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:26.959 for what a terrible person he is, but he is 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.200 suffering from that. He's and now he's having to deal 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:35.240 with the prospect of murdering his the issue of his body, Homelander, 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:39.480 his son Homelander, and so he's kind of self medicating 0:26:39.520 --> 0:26:43.320 as he's off to do with with whiskey. And then 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.399 there's of course the issue of the fact that Hughey 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.280 and Butcher could die at literally any second because they've 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:53.280 been taking the temporary v and Hugh he's like bleeding 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:54.760 black shit out of his ear. 0:26:56.200 --> 0:27:00.879 Yeah right, he told you something like absolutely this was 0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.520 a terrible idea, Quei. 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.880 Any times Starlight says, iying, just listen, because she's right 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.240 one hundred percent of the time. 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.359 I will say this is a great I feel like 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.560 the the use of ving this the temp V and 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:16.320 this show has been a really really great U microcosm 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:20.240 for how thoughtfully the boys hand or stuff because they don't. 0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:22.640 They didn't use it to be like this is about addiction. 0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.240 They used it to be about this is about toxic masculinity. 0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:26.919 This is about an obsession with power. 0:27:27.160 --> 0:27:28.520 And I think it's about power. 0:27:28.600 --> 0:27:31.520 Yes, that's exactly so good and it's and they even 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.600 have a great moment where Starlight says to Qui, She's like, 0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.680 I thought this was the drugs, but actually it's you, 0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:39.919 and it's it really is a very thoughtful, like forward 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.480 thinking use of addiction to tell a story that's really 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:44.320 about something else. 0:27:44.440 --> 0:27:47.000 Yeah, because really the central critique of The Boys, if 0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.639 you could say there is one, is what would happen 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:55.040 if people had ultimate power, superhero level power, and then 0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.880 the people who oppose them have to take the position 0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.040 that power must be limited. So what happens when those 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.840 people begin to dabble. 0:28:03.560 --> 0:28:04.680 In unlimited power? 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:07.920 And I and that's been a super super interesting driver 0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:12.120 a lot of the a lot of the story this season. Butcher, 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:18.359 of course, uh is just like he's cannonballing straight ahead. 0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.760 He does not care about any of this stuff. He's like, uh, 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.120 you know what we need to do. We to go, 0:28:25.840 --> 0:28:29.679 we to go get Mostly we'll as Huie telepull us 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.760 to the bad guys and we'll take and after we 0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:34.080 tight the lee, we'll kill. 0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:37.160 Noir and that's it. We'll kill Helm and then we're finished. 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:40.560 A lot uh, and soldier boys like whatever, I'm gonna 0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:44.760 go drink more whisky tonight. Vought paramilitaries take the sedated 0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:45.720 mave across town. 0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:46.680 Uh. 0:28:46.680 --> 0:28:48.720 So the AG can't find her, but of course, maybe 0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:50.959 is a fucking superhero. Folks, you think she hasn't been 0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:53.160 through shit like this before? She wakes up, sheet run 0:28:53.240 --> 0:28:56.040 the car. She's wonder woman, and what do you just think? 0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:57.480 You gotta dose her again? 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:03.480 I can't do its in Jurassic Weld. You got to 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.040 keep them, got to keep them comped up. 0:29:05.080 --> 0:29:08.760 Man, she can go toe to toe with Homelander and 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:12.560 you're just once, yeah, what are you doing? She wakes up, 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.400 she kills that one and fucking escapes frenchyet over at 0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.280 mm's house comes to MM and is like, uh, hey, 0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:24.600 I know what we can do to take down Soldier Boy. 0:29:25.280 --> 0:29:25.400 Uh. 0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.200 Now that we lost the previous sedative, we can use 0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.400 the neurotoxin novachuk, which is a real life poison which 0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:36.440 the Russians have often used to take care of troublesome dissidence. 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:39.920 There's only one dose on the Eastern seaboard, and so 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.840 they're going to try and get it. MM the moral 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.360 heart of the boys, And I would actually say, if 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.360 there is a hero on the Boys, it is MM. 0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:53.280 Mother's milk is the hero of the story, the moral center, 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:59.560 the beating heart, the one character who is always keeping 0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:03.800 insight like what they are there to do and what 0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.040 and what they are fighting about, and keeping those lines 0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:08.160 clearly drawn. 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:10.160 Yeah, it was really funny. I had a moment when 0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:11.920 I was watching it and I was like, EMMM doesn't 0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.080 have powers, And then I remember that the whole notion 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:15.800 of the boys is none of them have powers, and 0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:18.720 they hate soups, but they've gone so far down this 0:30:18.840 --> 0:30:22.080 rabbit hole of temporary v and experiments and stuff that 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.880 is it's easy to forget that. But he is not 0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:26.480 only is he like a moral center. But what I 0:30:26.560 --> 0:30:30.080 really love about him is it's not some pure botanical 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.400 He is like a great guy, and he is someone 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.320 who is very human in a way a lot of 0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.600 the other characters have lost, and he is the one 0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.320 who when Starlight says to him like, no, we need 0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.040 to do something good, he is the only one who 0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.120 will listen. He is the only one who remembers that 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:47.520 it's true she can't go to anyone else and get 0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.200 that help. He is the helper, He is the care 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:52.840 I mean even this episode shows it really well, we'll 0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:54.280 get into it in a minute, but even in his 0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.480 personal life, he makes mistakes, but he makes up for 0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:57.400 them in a way, and he. 0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:01.920 Feels bad about them like a lot of our other heroes. 0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.480 MM in this case, right now, in this scene, he's 0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:09.320 feeling bad because he punched his daughter's stepfather, who is 0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.080 a homelander loving fascist and deserved it, but still. 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:13.880 Don't want to do that. Yeah, you don't want to 0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:15.440 do that in front of your daughter. I get it. 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:19.480 He feels bad for losing control. Frenchie tells MM, like, 0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:24.320 you're the best human being I know. Just the respect 0:31:24.320 --> 0:31:25.640 that French she shows to him is. 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:26.520 Really great here. 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.120 Uh. And then and then he's like, listen, you just 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.800 have to tell your daughter the truth about your family history. 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.200 Your family was murdered by soldier boy, et cetera. 0:31:35.440 --> 0:31:37.720 And also get back on the lix of pro man 0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:41.760 I love and Kamika. 0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:44.160 That's like a I love them. 0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.120 Back at Vaught, Ashley in the deep find Homelander in 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.480 his suite watching n NC news. Uh, just watching a 0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.000 report about Vaught stock prices which are in the toilet. 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:57.240 Is the result of Starlight's various social media missives and 0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.240 her most recent post, in which she secrets taped Homelander 0:32:01.320 --> 0:32:05.120 going on one of his trademark psychotics creeds, which, let 0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:09.120 me just say, they should have released the airplane tape. Originally, 0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.640 this was like an actually crucial mistake that the boys 0:32:11.640 --> 0:32:14.680 did when when Homeland was like, I'll kill a million people, 0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:20.360 I call your bluff. Because here's the thing. If as 0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:27.840 the champions of limited power, the Boy's backup is people, 0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.560 it's public opinion, and they just needed to they should 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:32.240 have released the video. 0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:32.960 But that's neither here. 0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:34.640 No, no, no no. But I think that's really I think 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.600 you raised an interesting point because I wonder if the 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.880 notion of it is like you see over these three 0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.360 seasons as like the boys going from this tiny enclave 0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:48.080 of like violent men to like spreading out and understanding 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.640 more about like community and bringing in different voices, and 0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.080 maybe they like needed to have that journey. But obviously, yeah, 0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:56.800 that's one of those I call it like a walking 0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.520 dead thing. That's like my walking dead thing is where 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:02.480 like you can you could have done something five episodes 0:33:02.560 --> 0:33:04.520 or a season ago. I'm been in the same place, 0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.600 but you have to do the journey to get that. 0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:08.400 So this to me is smacks of that. 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:12.200 I love this season, but there are notes of that throughout. Yeah, 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:18.200 this episode will continue. Ashley and the Deep are absolutely 0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:21.520 shitting themselves because they now have to break the news 0:33:21.520 --> 0:33:24.520 to an already pissed Homelander that may have escaped, and 0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:28.640 it's it is one hundred percent more Ashley's than the Deeps, 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.560 but it's their fault. Homelander here is this, and he's 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:34.440 about to fucking blow his top and maybe kill one 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:39.400 or both of them. Only when Black Noir prodigal son 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.600 Black Noir returns, he's of course been on the run, 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:48.040 and Ashley in the Deep clear out clearly relieved. Noir 0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.120 Show's Homelander a note that says soldier boy will come 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:55.000 we kill and then they embrace at a gas station somewhere. 0:33:56.200 --> 0:34:00.120 Butcher socks Hughey, knocking him out so Hughie can't make 0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.600 more v and come on the mission with them, he'd 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.239 Homelander then gets back to the car or Soldier Boar 0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:07.040 wakes up. 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.200 And says, where's the congosler. 0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.640 Christ And he was like, you know what, you were right. 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.640 He was a coward. He ran for it and he 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.719 less and now we're gonna do it. All sells, aren't 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.759 we uh? And so s B is like, great, we'll 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.719 go back to sleep. A Tran arrives at his brother 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.000 Nathan's house. Nathan and now without the use of his 0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.360 legs because of the attack by Blue Hawk, which is 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:36.239 essentially a train's fault, Nathan isn't doing great. Nathan is 0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.319 surprised to see him, and a Train is like, hey, 0:34:40.480 --> 0:34:43.279 I'm alive. After the events of herogasm, I got a 0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.239 brand new heart. He does leave out the part where 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:46.360 it's Blue Hawk's heart. 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:53.279 Such an absolutely evil move by votes pr Pass and 0:34:53.320 --> 0:34:55.399 she just did that to funk with him, like yeah, 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:58.960 come on, it's it's very cruel, it's very it's almost 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.759 like very like Arie Indiana, like you get the Hall 0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.960 and will it make you? But I mean I will 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.399 also say as well, like we'll get into this later. 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:11.080 But something this season just does so well that all 0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:12.840 the seasons have done well, but this is the extra 0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.880 version of it. Is like this is just so searingly 0:35:17.440 --> 0:35:21.520 real about how these corporations work and that relationship with 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.440 a tran I think is is very, very very key 0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.720 for good way that these heroes are like token eyes 0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:29.600 then and utilized as tools. 0:35:29.920 --> 0:35:32.279 Someone on Twitter and I forget who and I apologize 0:35:32.320 --> 0:35:36.160 to them for not getting their tag but said that 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:42.080 paraphrasing now, But it's like The Boys wields its satire 0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:47.480 like Paul Verhoven, like RoboCop, like where it's just absolutely 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:51.720 bashing you in the face with the second Stashap Troopers. 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:55.800 That's what's great about the Boys. There's nothing subtle about 0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.799 the Boys. They're still like there is a character named Stormfront, 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:00.359 I mean. 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.040 This season and they did and some people they didn't 0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:05.200 realize she was a Nazi. But like this season as well, 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.840 you introduced the legend, you know, the stan Lee character 0:36:08.000 --> 0:36:11.560 by play by Paul Riser, and they literally have words 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.000 of him. He literally sits there and has a scene 0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.680 where he talks about how he sat there making up 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:19.960 myths and earned millions. Like they're not afraid to just 0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.399 be real. They you know, at one point, Soldier Boy says, 0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.560 you know, shut up or I'll slap you, like Connery, 0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:27.840 Like they're just like and then you get the stuff 0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.480 with when they're talking about Disney or Warner Brothers and 0:36:30.480 --> 0:36:32.560 and the kind of notion of how these superheroes are 0:36:32.560 --> 0:36:35.560 wielded almost like a modern god pantheon. It's it's very 0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:39.319 very funny. But you're right, the vere Hooven, Yeah, Jacob. 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.920 Jacob Jacob Hall. This was Jacob har from. 0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:45.040 The vere Hoven. Is such a good call because like 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:48.319 when Starship you know, he's maybe my favorite director, but 0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.480 definitely one of them. And when Starship Troopers came out, 0:36:51.520 --> 0:36:54.080 you know, that was a movie that was widely misunderstood 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.360 by critics who were like, oh, he's making this horrific 0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.680 pro military, pro America movie, and it's actually just an 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:05.200 incredibly grotesque satire of those very things and the boys. 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.120 If you watched it, you could be like, oh, is 0:37:08.160 --> 0:37:09.799 this like, are we supposed to like them? 0:37:09.880 --> 0:37:14.560 But I mean, all the all the Homelander fans suddenly 0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:17.320 that was this season was like, oh wait, he's the 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:17.799 dead guy. 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:20.719 Yeah. And I think Eric Kripkey does a really good 0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:26.200 job of balancing that constant on that constant knife edge 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.759 of well, we're making entertainment and you're choosing to watch it, 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.600 and the entertainment we're making is also the thing we're 0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:35.799 critiquing constantly. That's really hard to do, and I think 0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:38.080 they do a really good job in this season. This 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.799 season did a better job than any other season. 0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:44.880 Free so a Triann tries to reconcile with his brother, 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.640 but but Nate doesn't want to hear it. He's angry 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:52.120 because a Trian rather than bringing blue Hawk to justice, 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:56.399 which actually, listen, I wanted to see blue Hawk dead too. 0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:00.000 But I think for actual act for what Nate want, 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.600 which is actual change in the community, someone needs to 0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.080 pay a price in the in the legal system to 0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:06.239 actually change things. 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.680 And now that's been taken from them because. 0:38:10.120 --> 0:38:13.680 Held accountable in the light of of the courts, so 0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:16.960 everybody can see it didn't happen because his brother killed him. 0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:21.080 A train initially tries to lie like a soldier boy 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:22.960 did it, but Nate knows it's not true. And then 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.120 they fight and Nate falls out of his chair and 0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.200 that's it for that relationship. Starlight picks Huey up from 0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.000 the gas station. She is super mad because he has 0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.360 been lying for a long time about taking vee and stuff, 0:38:35.120 --> 0:38:40.240 and Starlight, realizing that Butcher has not as he promised 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:45.120 to do, told Hueye that that one more dose of 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.960 combat he could kill him, tells him and Huey realizes 0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:53.000 then that Butcher punched him to save his life. He 0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:57.520 has some further realizations about just like what moral strength is, 0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.320 and he apologizes to Starlight for everything. 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.919 She's like, fucking told you, uh, And. 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.360 Then star gets a phone call from mave Mayve is 0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:07.880 it m ms hue and mm give a star and 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:12.160 Mavee some privacy may have credit Starlight's social media campaign 0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.160 with giving her the opportunity to escape, but she's also like, 0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:17.319 why don't you just fucking like a real superhero just 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:18.319 fucking bust me out? 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:19.360 What is that? 0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:25.200 Meanwhile, Camiko uh can't stand to see Frenchy abusing himself 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:28.480 the way he is, you know, totally depressed about like 0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:30.879 the way that his past has come up and he's 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:32.799 been re traumatized by things that have happened in his 0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:35.000 past and his past failures, and he's storting lines and 0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.719 generally acting like he doesn't care about life anymore. Uh 0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:44.560 but Camiko, and you're absolutely right, this is like I 0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.880 nothing can happen to them. No, that's I'll protect them. 0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.439 Yeah, real riot like their job. 0:39:53.040 --> 0:39:54.120 Nothing can happen to that. 0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:56.560 And they did. They did a much better job of 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.760 this season as well. I think of of giving Kimiko 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.240 a space to eliza feelings and her relationships with people 0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:06.120 and stuff and in multiple inventive ways. So I really 0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:07.880 love to see this, and I love the way that 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.560 for Kamika was like I didn't think I could ever be, 0:40:11.239 --> 0:40:14.000 you know better, but you saw something in me and 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.120 and don't give up because I see it in you. 0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:18.799 I think that's really powerful and the just an incredible 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.960 performance all around by Karen Fukarhar unbelievable. 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:26.000 She dores so many episodes in this season. When I 0:40:26.040 --> 0:40:28.960 was watching and rewatching for the for the prep where 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.560 I was just like, oh, fuck, but you. 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:38.800 Are with with with facial expressions, with gesture, with posture, 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.520 and she's just so fucking good. 0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.120 She's great. Uh. 0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:47.719 Mavee is freaking out after learning that Soldier Boy is 0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:48.839 Tom Landers Dad. 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:51.239 Undistudable, Yeah, understandable. 0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:55.839 Starlight, meanwhile, is like on the phone to Vaught trying 0:40:55.840 --> 0:40:59.400 to raise the alarm so several thousand people at tower 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.200 don't die. She leaves a message on the answering machine. 0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.600 The boys plus star may have come up with a plan. Okay, 0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.600 we're gonna go take down so Boy and save Butcher. 0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:08.279 Right. 0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:10.759 Hugh is like, we're save Butcher too. He's like, good, 0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:12.840 he saved my life mms. 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:15.479 And so sure. He's pretty sure that that Butcher has. 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:18.480 Gone all the way bad because of all the compound 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:22.120 v he is taking. But Hughey says, listen really deep down, 0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:27.000 like I mean deep, like all deep, Yeah, like all 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:28.000 the way down. 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:29.360 I think there's still so good. 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.600 And then he says the thing that I think is 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.920 kind of the central ethos of the stand that this 0:41:38.040 --> 0:41:40.640 show is taking, which is we save everyone even if 0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:42.800 they don't deserve it, especially if they don't deserve it, 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:46.200 which I think raises an interesting moral quandary which I've 0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:47.560 been thinking about, which I'm now going to ask you 0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:52.200 about now. Yes, So I think that unlimited power is 0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:56.120 of course terrible. Superhero power is. 0:41:56.120 --> 0:42:01.160 Of course bad, and that it should be critiqued and 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.200 should be fought against. 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:05.799 And if you're going to power yourself up, as as 0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:09.719 our friends do here, it should be done very very carefully, 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:11.640 with a lot of a lot of oversight. But the 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:15.200 thing I was and I respect mm's stance and I 0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.480 agree with it most of the time. The thing I 0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.000 was thinking of in the context of our. 0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:21.560 Broader world is. 0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:28.839 When are you talking about power to win or are 0:42:28.840 --> 0:42:34.440 you or are you talking about meeting structural power with 0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:39.040 structure power? What I mean is this, if one side 0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:43.920 is using power to win, at what point do you 0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:47.080 decide the game? The rules of the game have now 0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.320 been so warped that you have to meet that power 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.279 with power in order to balance things. And I think 0:42:54.520 --> 0:43:00.000 that that is a very seductive question, and everybody thinks 0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:02.920 that they know the right answer, and usually what happens 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:05.080 is you pick up the scepter of power. 0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:06.600 And you are wrong or you go too far. 0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.920 But I also think that it's a it's a it's 0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:11.920 a thing that needs to be thought about in debated 0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:18.120 because if the other side has all the superheroes, and they. 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:23.480 Are empowering and upholding like a despotic fascist system. 0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.759 And the only way to bring them down is to 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:28.440 power yourself up for a little while. 0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.480 Yeah, you have to seriously consider doing it. 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:33.960 I mean, it's the Boys, It's the it's the Boys 0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:37.600 asking the ultimate superhero question. It's the Magnio argument versus 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.600 the Childs Xavier argument. It's the notion of do you 0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:43.759 meet power and violence with power and violence, or do 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:47.640 you try and take the higher ground and protect everyone. Well, 0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:51.000 I really actually like about the way that The Boys 0:43:51.640 --> 0:43:54.440 is presenting it is it's not this notion of kind 0:43:54.480 --> 0:43:56.120 of a lot of times this gets pulled down to 0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.279 almost like a non violence versus violence and non power 0:43:59.400 --> 0:44:02.960 versus power. Here, it's more like we're gonna do what 0:44:03.160 --> 0:44:06.440 needs to be done and try and reek as little 0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:09.120 damage as possible, which I actually think is a pretty 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:13.439 radical That's like a very realistic yet radical notion where 0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:17.440 it's like you have to do something terrible to stop 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.359 you have to do something terrible to respond to him, 0:44:20.560 --> 0:44:22.600 but and all you can do is think how many 0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:26.040 people can we save and how can we cause as 0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.800 little damage? Collateral damage as possible. 0:44:29.080 --> 0:44:31.800 Yeah, that part of it is I found myself thinking 0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:32.440 of that. 0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.440 Very interesting question a lot. 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.120 Over at Boys HQ and the Flat Iron, Soldier Word 0:44:38.200 --> 0:44:42.560 Butcher chatting about dads, and it turns out they both 0:44:42.600 --> 0:44:46.480 had really bad ones. Butcher recks his phone rather than 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.520 pick up a call from Grace Mallory. We learned that 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.840 Soldier Boy's dad was a complete piece of shit that, 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:56.319 even after Soldier Word became the superhero's dad was like, 0:44:56.360 --> 0:45:00.840 you cheated, you took a shortcut. This is Cly resonating 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:03.400 with Butcher, whose dad, as we have seen in the flashbacks, 0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:07.680 was also like a real, real, real piece of shit. Troublingly, 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.240 Soldier Boy then says I always wanted to have kids. 0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:11.360 I think I'd be a better. 0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.960 Father than my dad, which triggers Butcher to be like, 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.520 you know, hey, he's no your son. Demind him to 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:23.520 replace you. You didn't rise him truth bombs. But listen, 0:45:23.680 --> 0:45:26.799 Soldier Boy. Is he looking for that emotionalkitch? We don't know, 0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:30.960 and it's unclear whether Butcher and Soldier Boys still have 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:34.040 a deal. Over at Vought Home, later finds Noir sharpening 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:40.600 his katana. He asks, Noir, uh, like a Soldier Boy. 0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:44.880 What was what was he like that? Nora scribbles Homie 0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:49.200 then asks Noir the key question, did you as Soldier 0:45:49.200 --> 0:45:53.879 Boy's former teammate on Payback? No that And by the way, 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:55.680 I can see you because I have ExtraVision, I can 0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:57.399 see your face under that fucking mask. 0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:01.160 Did you know he was my dad? And Norah's like yeah, uh. 0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:05.040 They embrace, and then Homelander disembowels Noir, tears his guts out, 0:46:05.360 --> 0:46:09.840 and Noir dies as his cartoon friends keep him company 0:46:09.840 --> 0:46:10.760 throughout his final moments. 0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:13.759 Yeah, I think again, do we think is dead or no? 0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:16.680 Generally I've kind of felt like he was near immortal 0:46:16.800 --> 0:46:19.080 slash very good at healing in a Wolverine or Deadpool 0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:24.080 star way in the past. This seemed pretty brutal and fine. 0:46:24.360 --> 0:46:26.560 That's where everywhere I also, I have to say, like 0:46:27.080 --> 0:46:30.840 this is to me, Noir's arc on this this season 0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:35.200 has is a is proof of how inventive and thoughtful 0:46:35.360 --> 0:46:39.080 the team behind this is because the using his this 0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:43.680 is a character who is essentially faceless, emotionless in the experience. 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.440 Yeah, and is a clone of Homeless. 0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.920 Yeah, exactly, And and and here is kind of like 0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.799 that we only experienced so far in the show. Up 0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.839 until this point, we've only really experienced his experiences through 0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:59.879 other people's perceptions of them. And by adding this PTSD 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.600 imaginary friend to loocinogenic aspect of these animated characters, which one, 0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:09.120 by the way, beautifully animated and Amazon's animation unbelievable, two, 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.880 it made his death have so much weight. It felt 0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:14.360 really sad. 0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:18.960 It felt really sad because it sucks, and he sucks. 0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:21.719 He absolutely sucks. But you learn about his PTSD, you 0:47:21.840 --> 0:47:24.120 learn about there's another thing, like we were saying, I 0:47:24.160 --> 0:47:25.920 was saying about stranger things, and I think The Boys 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:29.120 does it in a way way more expansive and deep way. 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.319 This whole season is about these cycles of abuse and 0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:36.160 cycles of trauma. The government is abusing these superheroes by 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:39.200 raising them. You know, Homelander was raised to be this 0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.640 fascist Nazi piece of shit. Now does that mean he 0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:43.279 could have changed a long way? Of course it does. 0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.359 Does he constantly make terrible choices? Yes, but we get 0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.640 to see you with his son as well, Like these 0:47:48.719 --> 0:47:52.239 cycles continue until you break them. And this show has 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:55.759 done such a good job of just being really empathetic 0:47:56.239 --> 0:47:59.040 to everyone, both good and bad and giving everyone a 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:01.279 kind of humanity. And it's so funny because if you 0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.200 were like, yeah, there's a character who wears a mask 0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.440 and he's kind of like a Deadpool esque Batman character, 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.279 and then he started seeing all these animated characters and 0:48:08.320 --> 0:48:09.960 it was really emotional. People will be like, what the 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.319 fuck are you talking about, But when you actually watch it, 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:14.600 when it hits, it hits, and then when he dies, 0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:16.239 you're like, oh, I care because it's not the first 0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:17.719 time he died, and the other times I was. 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:19.959 Like, eh, do I catch what I think is part 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.480 of I love what you said, because I think part 0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:25.480 of what our heroes in this show do really well 0:48:25.680 --> 0:48:29.239 is give each other the opportunity to like take the 0:48:29.320 --> 0:48:32.640 off rint before they pass on their trauma to someone else. 0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:34.160 Before they act on it. 0:48:34.320 --> 0:48:36.439 Act on that trauma as a way to take back 0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:39.680 agency because something bad was done to them. Therefore I 0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.240 can do something bad to somebody else. I'm taking back control. 0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.200 This is the way the world works. But all of 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:47.960 our heroes, the way they talk to each other, the 0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:52.080 way they suggest. You know that a character you know 0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:56.360 talk to janis this French She says to mm as starlight. 0:48:56.480 --> 0:49:00.000 You know the way Starlight comes clean and talks to Huge. 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:05.400 They're all giving each other these opportunities to like get 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:08.440 out of take the off ramp, yes the cycle before 0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.200 they pass on the bad stuff. 0:49:10.280 --> 0:49:12.000 I love that, and I'm very excited to see how 0:49:12.000 --> 0:49:15.240 that kind of manifests for Butcher in the next season, because, 0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:19.000 like he has these huge moments this season, especially when 0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.800 he has that whole flashback to Lenny and his childhood 0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:23.839 and the mistakes he made, and for the first time 0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.120 he sees them. At every point when he is watching 0:49:26.160 --> 0:49:29.080 that happen, he's saying, no, do something different, don't do that, 0:49:29.200 --> 0:49:32.319 do this, He's already learning it. But the question but 0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.840 then in that even after that experience, he couldn't just 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:37.400 be truthful to Huey face to face. It had to 0:49:37.560 --> 0:49:40.200 he had to do it in some weird, convoluted way 0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:42.600 that he turned to violence to push him away in order. 0:49:42.440 --> 0:49:44.719 That You're right, just the fact that he is like 0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:47.560 engaging with those memories in a. 0:49:47.560 --> 0:49:49.280 Way, why he blaming himself. 0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.759 He's he's actually taking for the first time seemingly in 0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:57.480 his life, taking taking stock and processing those events and 0:49:57.560 --> 0:50:00.840 finding out how they power him. Listen, Like, like for 0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:04.480 anybody who's been to therapy. What happens you start talking 0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:09.000 about shit, like the earliest stuff. It's that's always where 0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:12.120 you go. You go for me anyway, you end up 0:50:12.160 --> 0:50:15.319 going back to stuff from your kid and what that's 0:50:15.360 --> 0:50:18.440 like the root of who everyone is, It's all comes 0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:22.200 from there, Like, uh, all the feelings of like not 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.640 being accepted and being traumatized, it all comes from there. 0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:29.040 And because that's the time in your life when you 0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:32.560 just had no power, you no agency, uh, and you 0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:35.560 were looking for it and you were looking for signals 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:37.600 about how to wield it. And so yeah, I loved 0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:41.680 It'll be really interesting to see where Butcher goes next. 0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:44.000 He's never going to be a classical hero. That's not 0:50:44.000 --> 0:50:45.440 where he is, that's not what the show is. But 0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:49.040 I'm interested to see what his you know, traditional classical 0:50:49.080 --> 0:50:51.799 heroes journey is now that he's coming to terms with that, 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.000 and how it manifests itself in the next season. 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.120 Back at the Flat Iron, the boys find Butcher. He's 0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:00.000 about to take some v MM gets in his face. 0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:04.759 Hue pulls them away. They try in this moment to talk, 0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:08.160 but you're into being like actual heroes for once, Like, 0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:10.600 think about all the people that are in that tower 0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:13.280 of thousands of people, there's janitors. It's just like normal 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:15.960 people going about their work. We need to stop Soldier Boy. 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.400 Uh maybe is like Dewey and she takes the novachuck. 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:20.680 She throws it twenty. 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:21.960 Miles out the fucking window. 0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:29.399 Sorry to whoever that yes, it went into. 0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.800 Yeah, They're like, oh, look at this, a little Starlight. 0:51:32.719 --> 0:51:36.200 Perfew and then they're dead. Homelander needs to die, she says, 0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.279 whatever it takes. Starlight is pissed, but then Soldier Boy 0:51:39.360 --> 0:51:41.680 shows up and they all make everybody get in the safe. 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.919 At Vought, the Deep, a Train and Ashley are listening 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:48.759 to Starlight's voicemail. The Deep is like, uh, should we 0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:51.960 should we do like an analysis to make sure it's 0:51:52.000 --> 0:51:55.839 really her? And also should we evacuate a home? Layers like, no, 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.279 we stay in Project Strength. When the Deep lays out 0:51:59.320 --> 0:52:04.320 his plan, you Nora's bait for Soldier Boy, Homelander drops 0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:08.799 Norah's head just to help on the table, and then 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:14.279 Uh proceeds to tear into his teammates for being not 0:52:14.560 --> 0:52:17.879 up to the standards of Homelander. He's like, you guys 0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:21.720 fucking suck. He decides to teach them a lesson. He's like, Deep, Uh, 0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:25.360 if if he wants to help, uh, here's what you do. 0:52:25.400 --> 0:52:27.839 Anything whispers in his ear, and whatever it was he 0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:31.120 said was clearly bad because the Deep very reluctantly agrees 0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:33.520 to do whatever he says. Then he tells Ashley take 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:34.080 off your wig. 0:52:34.160 --> 0:52:34.920 Here we learned that. 0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:40.520 Ashley has has like a no hair. 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.360 I'm interested in this because like I can't, I can't 0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.760 help but think, look, we have a character hair soldier 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:50.719 boy who's radioactive, right, that's very Doctor Manhattan. To then 0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:54.720 have somebody who's in that realm losing their hair, maybe 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:57.560 being sick, maybe having cancer, I think that that is 0:52:57.600 --> 0:53:01.319 going to become He does it to to shame her, 0:53:01.480 --> 0:53:04.239 because he's to shame because he's misogynistic, but I think 0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:07.359 it is going to lead to a bigger. 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.239 I've been We've been waiting, We've been waiting for now 0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:14.160 three seasons for the turn from Ashley, and like maybe 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.080 it's in sight, but we're not quite clear if it is. 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:19.640 And then finally a Trane is like, how dare you 0:53:19.760 --> 0:53:22.360 kill pop Club? Remember when you did that back in 0:53:22.440 --> 0:53:25.080 season one? A fellow sloop and then he says noir 0:53:25.239 --> 0:53:29.400 was worth more than all of you put together. Uh. 0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:32.840 And what was the thing that Homelander whispered to the deep? 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.880 It was for the deep to kill Lamar Bishop aka 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:37.080 Dakota Bob's. 0:53:38.680 --> 0:53:40.360 Vice presidential candidate. 0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:43.200 Who and he does them by drowning him in his 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:45.920 pool by I guess, waiting in the pool, which is 0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:47.200 the weirdest way to do it. 0:53:47.200 --> 0:53:51.400 It's like he had to like sit at the bottom 0:53:51.520 --> 0:53:53.200 like he was because he can breathe under the wall. 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.040 I had to show off he has really had Truly 0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:56.680 what an oarc? 0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:58.480 What an arc? From that guy? 0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:03.600 Starlight punches our friend's way out of the safe. They 0:54:03.719 --> 0:54:06.759 of course need more nerve gas and Frenchy figures it out. 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.799 He's like, hey, guess what, there is a lab that 0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:13.359 has everything we need. It's inaught tower. Okay, So they 0:54:13.360 --> 0:54:15.560 come up with a plan. Frenchie will cook up the 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:19.279 nerve agent while everybody else fights Homelander and Soldier Boy. Uh. 0:54:19.480 --> 0:54:21.600 And on the way out the door, Huey finds like 0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:25.880 under the couch another spare vial of some of that 0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:30.920 temporary view. Butcher Mave and Soldier Boy find Homelander watching 0:54:31.120 --> 0:54:33.239 old World War two footage. 0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.280 Of Soldier Boy. Oh Dad. 0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:39.680 Homelander then tells everybody that Nor's Dwett, that Noir is dead, 0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:42.680 and then he is just like, hey, Dad, can we 0:54:42.760 --> 0:54:43.560 just like reconnect? 0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:46.040 Can we just like team up? Like no one could 0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:48.920 stop us if we team up? Like uh? 0:54:48.960 --> 0:54:53.160 And then Butcher alarmed to get it. This is like, Hi, 0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:58.360 this zeal Son. Don't lose folk Soka, you didn't rise him. 0:54:58.760 --> 0:55:03.719 Then Homelander brings out it's a very tough moment, terrible. 0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:07.800 He's add into the annual. 0:55:09.320 --> 0:55:15.240 Homelander wants them to be one big, weird, murderous, genocidal 0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:22.400 fascist superhero family, and Soldier Boy luckily, weirdly luckily, Soldier 0:55:22.440 --> 0:55:26.000 Boy is a complete piece of shit, and much like 0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:30.880 Homelander is, is triggered by any. 0:55:30.719 --> 0:55:32.600 Kind of vulnerability or weakness. 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:35.920 This is the toxic masculinity of which you spoke right. 0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:43.440 The way that society imprints on men to treat weakness 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:46.880 or any kind of show of vulnerability. 0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:48.799 Is attack it. And this is what Soldier Boy does 0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:49.319 in this moment. 0:55:49.320 --> 0:55:52.279 He's like, you're such a fucking sniveling pussy star for 0:55:52.360 --> 0:55:57.200 attention and then they fight, which very again, very very 0:55:57.280 --> 0:56:00.120 lucky for Butcher and our heroes that Soldier Boy is 0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:02.319 so toxic because if not, they might have teamed up 0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:03.200 and become a family. 0:56:03.400 --> 0:56:04.440 It's kill everybody. 0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:06.920 It's really interesting as well, because like we've had this 0:56:07.000 --> 0:56:09.399 journey for Hue this season with the temp V where 0:56:09.640 --> 0:56:13.239 he is essentially living out his toxic masculinity fantasies where 0:56:13.320 --> 0:56:15.719 suddenly he's able to be the strong man and the 0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:17.960 man who can do all the things that his girlfriend 0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:21.840 can't do. And and he's seeing this kind of beautiful 0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:26.400 to him, this kind of like you know, Garden of Ambrosia, 0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:28.400 where he can be everything he's always been told he 0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:30.279 can be. But at the same time he's been hanging 0:56:30.280 --> 0:56:32.719 around Soldier Boy. He's just an absolute piece of shit. 0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:34.800 And like there's a line where he is like everything 0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.279 you say is gross, and I'm like please, son, Like 0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:40.319 he this is the lesson, Like this is what you are. 0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:42.200 This is the end game. You know, we were talking 0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.960 today before on preper about end games, like where do 0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:47.480 you end up if you follow that path? That is 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:50.360 the ultimate version of it. So yeah, Also, I just 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:53.359 had to say Jensen acles he was ready for this role. 0:56:53.640 --> 0:56:55.960 He is just like he is so happy to not 0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:57.280 be on TV. 0:56:59.560 --> 0:57:04.040 He's exploded from the soap opera world, from the CW world, 0:57:04.160 --> 0:57:07.400 and he is just fucking doing it. 0:57:07.440 --> 0:57:09.480 Man, he's great good. 0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:11.200 He is so good in this role. 0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:15.759 Uh, it's almost like this is gonna be this is 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:19.080 not quite the comparison we're kind of. It reminds me 0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:21.600 of the first time I saw John Hamm and Madman. 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:22.800 Where I was like, where the fuck is this guy? 0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:29.600 Like do they just have like handsome good actors, like 0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:33.320 in a warehouse somewhere where there. 0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:38.000 Was absolutely deep, like gut wrenching acting, And Jensen just 0:57:38.040 --> 0:57:42.360 like commits so deeply and he makes the character so unlikable, 0:57:42.600 --> 0:57:45.280 which is his power as an actor. You're not also 0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:49.560 Jensen being unlikable. You're watching this, You're watching I mean, 0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:51.840 this is it's the most basic take, right, but this 0:57:51.960 --> 0:57:54.360 is the truth. You are basically watching, like this is 0:57:54.360 --> 0:57:56.600 what I would be like if Captain America existed. It 0:57:57.600 --> 0:57:58.640 absolutely is. 0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:04.640 And the thing that makes it not obviously again this 0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:07.280 is it's not a subtle performance. But the thing that 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:10.440 I love about what Accles does here is he makes 0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:20.439 Soldier boy so like marinated in his own like his 0:58:20.480 --> 0:58:25.000 own like self hatred of him, you know, like his 0:58:25.040 --> 0:58:28.440 own toxic self hatred and PTSD is this. 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:31.720 Intense stew that he just. 0:58:33.240 --> 0:58:38.160 Can't deal with in any other way other than smoking 0:58:38.200 --> 0:58:40.760 a lot of weed and drinking a lot of whiskey 0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:44.320 and then occasionally literally blowing up. 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:48.800 In a so that I think is like the realist ship, right, 0:58:49.360 --> 0:58:51.720 is not just this notion of self medication, which for 0:58:51.760 --> 0:58:54.320 a lot of people can be the only way that 0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:57.200 you can treat yourself. But also this is a great 0:58:57.200 --> 0:59:01.680 example of the boys doing the most all version of 0:59:01.760 --> 0:59:06.120 an analogy. Yeah, the notion of his PTSD is that 0:59:06.200 --> 0:59:09.320 when he gets triggered, he literally explodes. 0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:11.560 It's a literal exclusion. 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:15.040 It's not a violent it's not so but it works. 0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:18.480 And it's really really especially because they even have like 0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:21.560 a Geiger counter to measure how radioactive he is to 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.120 see if he's gonna go off. But no one at 0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:25.240 any point does a good job of like trying to 0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:28.000 comfort him or stop it. It's more like even they 0:59:28.080 --> 0:59:31.240 just see him as a weapon. It's very interesting stuff. 0:59:31.400 --> 0:59:36.040 Ryan gets knocked out and then Homelander goes to tend 0:59:36.040 --> 0:59:38.400 to him, so our friends grab him and Soldier Boy 0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:41.960 lines him up to do the hero gasm on him. 0:59:42.120 --> 0:59:43.200 And depower him. 0:59:43.520 --> 0:59:47.240 But then Butcher is like, Ryan's gonna get zap too, 0:59:47.400 --> 0:59:49.280 and he feels bad about it. So now it's Butcher 0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:52.200 versus Soldier Boy and May versus Homelander with starlight and 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:55.200 MM thrown in for some good measure, and we get 0:59:55.760 --> 1:00:00.920 some truly like movie level super action. It's it's like, 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:05.600 it's just great superhero action, great great, great superhero action, 1:00:05.640 --> 1:00:09.480 which the show is delivered all absolute season. Now, I 1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:13.480 will say, small note, I think there's a great like 1:00:13.680 --> 1:00:17.080 device that's at play here, and you see it a 1:00:17.120 --> 1:00:23.120 lot in suspense movies, suspense books, where it's like, uh, 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:28.000 it's like every time our heroes get the thing that 1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:30.680 they want in their grasp, it gets pulled away, It 1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:32.280 gets pulled away, it gets pulled away. 1:00:32.480 --> 1:00:37.480 I will say it's a little it flirted with a little. 1:00:37.200 --> 1:00:40.400 Too, like just blast Homelander already, like it was a little. 1:00:42.240 --> 1:00:44.600 Yeah, there was a little the walking Dead thing, there's 1:00:44.640 --> 1:00:45.360 a little. 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:48.160 There's a little moment earlier this season as well where 1:00:48.560 --> 1:00:54.280 Soldier Boy and uh, Butcher and Hue do get to 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:55.760 the point where they could have just killed him, but 1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:58.520 Butcher and Butcher and hue having a little like you go, no, 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:00.120 you go, and I'm like, they just kill. 1:01:00.480 --> 1:01:02.240 Just kill killing babe. 1:01:02.360 --> 1:01:04.520 There's lots of just killing babe moments. 1:01:04.560 --> 1:01:07.880 That is an absolutely minor. It's very. 1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:11.760 You're like, I love the characters, so I'm okay with 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:16.280 chill him with them, but also just kill him ill again. 1:01:16.760 --> 1:01:18.080 I just want to acknowledge that. 1:01:19.360 --> 1:01:22.080 Huey gets on the PA he's in the security room 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:25.080 and he calls trying evacuation, so everybody's all the civilians 1:01:25.120 --> 1:01:28.520 are leaving. Meanwhile, French, she is cooking up the nerve 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:31.480 agent as Comiko to the dancing to the tune of 1:01:31.480 --> 1:01:34.760 Maniac from Flash Dance French. He finishes making the nerve agent, 1:01:34.760 --> 1:01:38.160 but then he gets shot in the ankle. Upstairs, Homelander 1:01:38.160 --> 1:01:42.080 pops out Mavee's eye. Terrible Soldier Boy gets the best 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:44.840 of Butcher, Comiko and MM and the security room. 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:46.760 Huie sees this. He sees the danger. 1:01:46.840 --> 1:01:49.680 He's about to take the vial of v but instead 1:01:49.680 --> 1:01:51.320 he turns up the lights in the studio to their 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:54.560 highest level. Starlight gets super super powered up to levels 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:59.120 we have never seen before, and she hits Soldier Boy 1:01:59.160 --> 1:02:02.880 with all that she has doesn't knock him out, but 1:02:02.920 --> 1:02:04.680 it stuns him and it's a big hit. Camiko and 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:08.840 Starlight hold him as mother's milk slips that nova chuck 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:10.720 in halo over Soldier Boy's mouth. 1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:13.800 He says, from my family, he's breathing it in. 1:02:13.840 --> 1:02:16.480 But Soldier Boy is super pissed. He's powering up to 1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:20.880 blast off. And then Mave, after stebbing Homelander in the ear, 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:25.880 sees all of this and very very very regretfully understands 1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:26.800 that she has to be the hero. 1:02:26.920 --> 1:02:27.960 Now, she has to do something. 1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:32.520 So she's like, fuck, I guess I gotta, I gotta, 1:02:32.800 --> 1:02:34.680 I gotta do it. I gotta be wonder woman. She 1:02:34.800 --> 1:02:38.040 tackles Soldier Boy clear of the building, and Soldier Boy 1:02:38.080 --> 1:02:40.880 detonates in the air, wrecking the outside of Vaught. But 1:02:41.000 --> 1:02:44.640 it's fine and killing Mave, we think, But everyone else 1:02:44.720 --> 1:02:48.480 is okay, including Homelander. Fuck, this guy is still up 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:49.000 and going. 1:02:49.240 --> 1:02:53.320 There's my guy. I can't believe this guy is. He's 1:02:53.440 --> 1:02:55.760 not even sprat. He's a termination. He's going to. 1:02:57.480 --> 1:02:59.919 He did take like a letter opener to the neck. 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:03.280 But like, this guy is still going. He confronts Butcher, 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:07.200 who's like raw in come but Ryan is like, Dad, 1:03:07.280 --> 1:03:09.120 let's go, and he means Homelander. 1:03:09.200 --> 1:03:11.840 Unfortunately he means Homelander. 1:03:12.560 --> 1:03:17.120 But Ray, he's a he's a cut any but no, 1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:19.720 Ryan definitely wants to go with Homelander and then they 1:03:19.760 --> 1:03:23.000 just leave and Butcher's brain then starts bleeding black shit. 1:03:22.840 --> 1:03:23.360 And he passes. 1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:24.200 Sorry. 1:03:24.240 --> 1:03:27.720 Fast forward, we watch a Vaught news piece on h 1:03:27.920 --> 1:03:31.240 on Mave ri ip May the whole world is turning 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:35.080 out uh to celebrate the life of Mave. Butcher in 1:03:35.120 --> 1:03:37.480 the hospital learns that the v damage is terminal and 1:03:37.520 --> 1:03:41.680 he has maybe eighteen months. MM tells Janine about his 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:44.800 and his family's past, including the deaths of many of 1:03:44.840 --> 1:03:47.200 the family at the hands of Soldier Boy. He tells 1:03:47.200 --> 1:03:49.920 her how he's fighting just like her granddad did, to 1:03:49.960 --> 1:03:52.800 get justice. We learned that Mave is alive. 1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:53.959 Fantastic. 1:03:55.320 --> 1:03:58.280 I was very very happy about this. She lost her eye, Yes, 1:03:58.360 --> 1:04:00.960 she did lose her powers also, but she survived and 1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:03.640 now she's just gonna lay low on a farm somewhere 1:04:03.640 --> 1:04:04.840 with Elena and they're gonna go off. 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:07.520 They're gonna live a great life. Over at Vought. Ashley 1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:12.000 and Anika UH see the security footage that may have survived. 1:04:12.040 --> 1:04:14.720 They see MM and the rest like picking her up 1:04:14.760 --> 1:04:16.640 and putting her in the van and spearing her away 1:04:16.680 --> 1:04:17.640 on the security camera. 1:04:17.680 --> 1:04:19.400 And as she's like a race that shit, they erase 1:04:19.440 --> 1:04:19.960 it immediately. 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:21.280 The ton is it coming? 1:04:21.760 --> 1:04:23.400 Is coming? They erase it is. 1:04:23.800 --> 1:04:24.520 She sick of it. 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:29.440 Grace Mallory, back in power, oversees the return of her 1:04:29.520 --> 1:04:33.880 former teammates Soldier Boys his body to Stasi's containment. Sleep well, 1:04:34.440 --> 1:04:38.440 dear Prince Soldier Boy. The Deep watches Cassandra. 1:04:38.000 --> 1:04:41.040 His X on TV announcing the the. 1:04:42.120 --> 1:04:47.040 Very fast publication of her tell all. I guess she 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:49.520 must have been writing. You're absolutely right she was writing 1:04:49.560 --> 1:04:52.080 it while she was with him of her new tell 1:04:52.120 --> 1:04:55.840 all in Too Deep, My journey to Freedom to Choose 1:04:56.360 --> 1:04:59.080 being the number two's of course, about her leaving a 1:04:59.120 --> 1:05:04.920 toxic relationship with her squid fucking soup ex boyfriend. The 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:09.720 Deep at the Flatirn Starlight throws her starlight costume away. 1:05:10.800 --> 1:05:13.760 Doesn't double bag it and tie and double knotted as 1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:17.800 she as MM, who is ocd about cleanliness, would wish 1:05:17.800 --> 1:05:20.480 her to do. But of course they're welcoming her to 1:05:20.560 --> 1:05:21.720 the boys as wonderful. 1:05:22.000 --> 1:05:22.880 She is part of the. 1:05:22.840 --> 1:05:26.440 Team now, but then newsflash, the TV is announcing that 1:05:26.920 --> 1:05:30.800 guess who, Victoria Newman is replacing Lamar's Dakota Bob's new 1:05:30.880 --> 1:05:35.800 vice presidential candidate. That's right, Victoria Newman, who can pop 1:05:35.840 --> 1:05:38.400 people's skulls. Though no one knows it, it will now 1:05:38.480 --> 1:05:44.520 be one popped skull away from the highest the highest 1:05:46.000 --> 1:05:48.360 throne of power in the land. 1:05:48.800 --> 1:05:52.120 That bitch definitely has gotta go elsewhere. 1:05:52.320 --> 1:05:56.360 Homelander introduces Ryan to his and stormfronts right wing supporters 1:05:56.400 --> 1:06:00.439 at the protest that seems to be always going on 1:06:00.600 --> 1:06:04.800 outside Vought. When a counter protester throws a drink at Ryan, 1:06:05.280 --> 1:06:07.960 Homelander just lasers the guy's head off in the in 1:06:08.000 --> 1:06:11.880 the broad daylight, in front of everybody. Yeah, and Janine's 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:14.880 stepdad is there and he's like, I love it, And 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:17.680 then Ryan smiles and season is over. 1:06:17.800 --> 1:06:18.240 Wow. 1:06:18.560 --> 1:06:19.040 What Wow? 1:06:19.120 --> 1:06:19.400 Season? 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:23.120 If you didn't know who Homelander is meant to be, 1:06:23.240 --> 1:06:25.480 they made that I could shoot someone in the street 1:06:25.480 --> 1:06:26.760 and people would still vote for me. 1:06:27.240 --> 1:06:27.800 They made it. 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:31.560 It's right there, bab he literally blows up a guy's head, 1:06:31.600 --> 1:06:33.080 and Todd and everyone else is. 1:06:33.040 --> 1:06:37.240 Like, yeah, this is great love that I knew. I 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:37.560 think the. 1:06:37.600 --> 1:06:41.040 Ryan thing is a really good choice because it's just realistic. 1:06:41.280 --> 1:06:43.280 That's what happens. When your dad is a fascist, You're 1:06:43.280 --> 1:06:45.120 probably going to become a fascist, and if you go 1:06:45.240 --> 1:06:46.800 out of it, it will be later. And I think 1:06:46.800 --> 1:06:50.360 that there was a moment. I'm a softy in some ways, 1:06:50.680 --> 1:06:52.600 even though I love like action and stuff. So there 1:06:52.600 --> 1:06:54.439 was a moment at the end of season two where 1:06:54.440 --> 1:06:56.520 I loved the idea of Butcher being there for Ryan 1:06:56.560 --> 1:06:58.240 and that being a way of him showing his love 1:06:58.280 --> 1:07:00.800 for Becka. But the reality was he was shipped to Becca, 1:07:00.960 --> 1:07:03.520 he was shipped to die, and he basically abandoned Ryan 1:07:03.880 --> 1:07:05.360 and allowed Homeline. 1:07:04.960 --> 1:07:07.760 As Ryan extreame don't leave, Yeah. 1:07:07.640 --> 1:07:11.000 And he's like bye, and he left up with Grace 1:07:11.040 --> 1:07:13.480 and then he opened up this space for for Homelander. 1:07:13.520 --> 1:07:15.280 So I think it will be really interesting. I think 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:19.200 we haven't really seen a soup with a sidekick yet, 1:07:19.240 --> 1:07:25.680 so I'm very excited to see the Robin Batman Homeland 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:28.320 Ryan thing that they'll obviously do next season. 1:07:28.560 --> 1:07:33.280 Can't wait for a season four coming next year. Miss 1:07:33.280 --> 1:07:36.720 Marvel Finale episode six No Normal teleplay by Will done A. C. 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:39.560 Bradley and Matthew Chauncey story by Will Done, directed by 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:43.840 a deal in Billal We open on Jersey City agents 1:07:43.920 --> 1:07:46.360 Diver and Berry of the Department of Damage Control or 1:07:46.400 --> 1:07:50.160 examining the wreckage outside the Circle K Bruno's apartment, obviously 1:07:50.200 --> 1:07:53.080 above that this is what happens when the wrong people 1:07:53.480 --> 1:07:57.920 get powers. Diver says absolutely. 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:02.280 Absolutely about absolutely. 1:08:03.520 --> 1:08:07.480 Absolutely letting us know that the Department of Damage Control 1:08:07.680 --> 1:08:13.600 is gonna be a part of the Sentinel program eventually 1:08:13.720 --> 1:08:16.320 all of these people who very very clearly don't like 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:20.040 Howard for or at least she is she is for sure, 1:08:20.120 --> 1:08:22.800 and well, listen, I think what they were signaling two 1:08:22.840 --> 1:08:26.920 episodes ago when the Clandestines were were being put in 1:08:26.960 --> 1:08:30.000 prison but then the guards just started being really physical and. 1:08:31.600 --> 1:08:33.519 Abusive towards them, is letting us know. 1:08:33.479 --> 1:08:36.320 That this is an entire This department is staffed with 1:08:36.360 --> 1:08:39.840 people who feel this way, and we're headed that way. 1:08:40.240 --> 1:08:42.960 I think that that. I think this episode is really 1:08:43.000 --> 1:08:49.160 interesting in that way because we see a distinct extremism 1:08:49.280 --> 1:08:51.800 from Sadie Diva, which is not surprising because she's been 1:08:51.800 --> 1:08:54.880 going that way. But then are the DODC agent who 1:08:54.880 --> 1:08:57.679 he met in No Way home. He takes a ton 1:08:58.920 --> 1:09:01.559 against that. I'm very interested to see if we'll get 1:09:01.640 --> 1:09:02.599 some kind of split. 1:09:03.479 --> 1:09:06.760 Yeah, I think that that is well, we'll get there, 1:09:06.800 --> 1:09:08.799 but I think that that is going to happen. Notably, 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.400 Deaver says that she wants whoever this powered person is 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:14.559 that they haven't caught but they're looking for. She wants 1:09:14.640 --> 1:09:20.400 him brought in and studied. Sounds like the Sentinel does. Meanwhile, 1:09:20.400 --> 1:09:23.160 Bruno and Comrade are on the Path train and they're 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:26.320 headed for Manhattan. The plan is to transfer there and 1:09:26.360 --> 1:09:30.720 then to head upstate, which I'll just say a in 1:09:30.760 --> 1:09:35.160 an episode filled with Easter eggs about mutants and the 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:38.400 X men heading up state felt like it means something. 1:09:39.040 --> 1:09:43.720 But listen, and there's a teenager who can't control his 1:09:43.960 --> 1:09:48.200 powers and he's thinking about heading up state. 1:09:48.280 --> 1:09:51.600 That's just like an X that's so many experts. 1:09:51.600 --> 1:09:55.760 And I'll tell you this, So loo watch this episode 1:09:56.160 --> 1:09:58.360 with this in mind. Compared it to the other episodes. 1:09:58.680 --> 1:10:01.800 Not only is the camera moment and that's like part 1:10:01.840 --> 1:10:04.120 of the story. We have Agent Divas starting talking about 1:10:04.240 --> 1:10:07.880 experimenting on people. That screams Weapon X. It screams that 1:10:07.920 --> 1:10:11.800 they could need genetics for the drones that will inevitably 1:10:11.840 --> 1:10:14.880 become the Sentinels, as Jason so rightly pointed out last week. 1:10:15.280 --> 1:10:20.680 And the other thing is this looks different. This episode 1:10:20.760 --> 1:10:23.680 opens with these huge, sweeping shots of the New York 1:10:23.760 --> 1:10:27.559 skyline and these towering images of the Statue of Liberty, 1:10:27.720 --> 1:10:30.160 and then we go swiftly onto the train and it's 1:10:30.200 --> 1:10:32.400 all very urban. It looks like it looks like a 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:36.080 zero S X Men movie. It evokes that exact thing. 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:38.759 It's letting you know where you are, it's it's placing 1:10:38.800 --> 1:10:41.719 you in the mindset of that. And that continues throughout 1:10:41.720 --> 1:10:45.040 this episode, not just thematically but also like literally, as 1:10:45.080 --> 1:10:45.759 we'll get into. 1:10:46.840 --> 1:10:50.479 Back at the can Household, Kamala tells her family that 1:10:50.560 --> 1:10:51.960 she has superpowers. 1:10:52.000 --> 1:10:53.639 She is the super hero. 1:10:53.920 --> 1:10:59.120 The family reaction is very proud and very positive, which 1:10:59.160 --> 1:11:04.679 is wonderful, although and fairly so, and understandably so, Uniba 1:11:04.720 --> 1:11:08.520 and Usuf are worried about the danger inherent. 1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:09.400 In a superhero life. 1:11:09.880 --> 1:11:12.720 Nakia calls Kamala, learns about the destruction of the show 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:19.000 k and that Bruno is missing. She rushes upstairs trying 1:11:19.000 --> 1:11:20.920 to call Bruno. She's in a panic, but then Munia 1:11:21.040 --> 1:11:26.960 enters and Rosie prediction comes true. 1:11:27.240 --> 1:11:29.880 Her mom made her a suit. Oh it's so great, 1:11:30.280 --> 1:11:32.519 take a victory lap night. 1:11:32.760 --> 1:11:36.280 We're just this is our most predictive series in one project. 1:11:37.000 --> 1:11:39.719 And the thing I love about this is they made 1:11:39.720 --> 1:11:44.400 the suit so narratively intertwined with the show and what 1:11:44.439 --> 1:11:46.240 was important about the show and what worked about the 1:11:46.240 --> 1:11:50.400 show an intergenerational story about family acceptance. It also does 1:11:50.400 --> 1:11:53.400 something that contradicts one of my worst but also I 1:11:53.479 --> 1:11:56.960 understand most necessary tropes in superhero comics. For a long time, 1:11:57.000 --> 1:11:59.480 I felt like, over this one hundred year history of superheroes, 1:11:59.800 --> 1:12:02.160 so much of what the heroes and the people that 1:12:02.200 --> 1:12:05.240 we look up to do is predicated on lying. They 1:12:05.240 --> 1:12:07.479 have to lie about their secret identity, They have to 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:10.080 put their family. Spider Man, how many times is aren't 1:12:10.080 --> 1:12:12.639 May in the hospital because of him in his secret identity? 1:12:12.800 --> 1:12:16.479 You know, Batman, even Clark Kent Superman's had that problem 1:12:16.520 --> 1:12:18.880 at times. Like but what I love about this is 1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:21.720 that contradicts this and in a way that it's not 1:12:21.840 --> 1:12:26.840 only oh, my family are know about it, but they're 1:12:26.880 --> 1:12:29.400 proud of me, and they're actually co conspirators. And her 1:12:29.439 --> 1:12:33.240 mumble made her this gorgeous costume, classic superhiotrope as well. 1:12:33.240 --> 1:12:35.160 This costume looks too legit. 1:12:35.800 --> 1:12:38.720 My neighbor is a great seems stressed, but like this 1:12:38.800 --> 1:12:42.479 is the other thing, a stark level costume. Not to keep, 1:12:42.600 --> 1:12:44.080 not to not to bring it back to the X 1:12:44.120 --> 1:12:45.679 Men as we're going to do multiple We're. 1:12:45.560 --> 1:12:46.040 Going to bring. 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:54.599 Acceptance, acceptance and community is that's the key to an 1:12:54.760 --> 1:12:59.240 X Men mutant story, and that's what this whole show 1:12:59.400 --> 1:13:02.280 and then and in particular this episode is about, is 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:04.760 we are co conspirators because we're a community. 1:13:04.880 --> 1:13:06.840 I totally agree. And also something that I think they 1:13:06.840 --> 1:13:10.320 did really cheekily here that I'd love to know if 1:13:10.360 --> 1:13:12.160 it was purposeful as well, because I feel like this 1:13:12.200 --> 1:13:14.519 whole episode they basically got to write an X Men's story, 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:16.880 which is really fun. But they also the whole show 1:13:16.960 --> 1:13:19.519 is about found family. But that's not just family. Who 1:13:19.560 --> 1:13:22.400 isn't your family. It's about like finding your family again, 1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:25.000 which I think is really cheeky because found family is 1:13:25.080 --> 1:13:26.640 the heart of why we all love the X Men 1:13:26.760 --> 1:13:28.599 so much. So there's just so much good stuff here. 1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:31.920 I love that the costume now includes the red Dagger scarf, 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:34.639 you know that kind of hint about the connection between 1:13:34.640 --> 1:13:37.200 the Red Dagger and the Clandestine and a collaboration in 1:13:37.240 --> 1:13:40.840 their future, which we'll see more of later this episode 1:13:40.400 --> 1:13:45.519 I needed. I love predictions, but this if Manieba after 1:13:45.560 --> 1:13:48.360 them showing she's a brilliant seems to just showing her 1:13:48.400 --> 1:13:51.719 punky roots and all that. If she hadn't made that costume, 1:13:51.960 --> 1:13:55.160 I would have been actually pissed. Usually I'm like, my 1:13:55.160 --> 1:13:57.320 predictions are wrong, I don't care, but this one meant 1:13:57.360 --> 1:14:00.400 a lot and the moment is so well live it. 1:14:00.439 --> 1:14:03.879 The actress who plays Maniever is so spectacular and obviously 1:14:03.960 --> 1:14:06.760 imman Bellani is just so wonderful. So they just that 1:14:06.920 --> 1:14:11.439 delivered and the costume is stunning. Jamie mckelvey's brilliant costume 1:14:11.479 --> 1:14:13.120 design just brought to life on screen. 1:14:14.640 --> 1:14:15.280 Uh. 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:19.479 Bruno and Comrade arrive at the mosque. Naki's like, what 1:14:19.520 --> 1:14:22.639 are you doing here, and they're like, mosques are suppose 1:14:22.680 --> 1:14:24.720 he place as a refuge And then one of the 1:14:24.720 --> 1:14:26.960 funniest lines of the entire show, this is a mosque 1:14:26.960 --> 1:14:32.599 in America very much? Do you don't understand that this 1:14:32.680 --> 1:14:35.200 will not be respected as a place of refuge. Nakia 1:14:35.200 --> 1:14:37.160 then suggests that they head to the high school because 1:14:37.160 --> 1:14:38.519 it's Saturday, no one's gonna be there. 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:40.160 Damage Control and Agent. 1:14:39.960 --> 1:14:41.920 Diva enter the mosque and they're looking for that high 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:45.080 level threat that is Comrade Shakob Dollah stands up for 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:47.479 his flock ably, but of course Diva and her goons 1:14:47.520 --> 1:14:51.240 are gonna search anyway. The chic while that's going on, 1:14:51.320 --> 1:14:53.639 is already escorting Bruno and Comrade out the back door 1:14:53.680 --> 1:14:55.639 to an alley where Kamala finds him. 1:14:56.000 --> 1:14:57.800 No time for catchups, however, I just. 1:14:57.840 --> 1:14:59.840 Want to say really important moment there, which is where 1:15:00.160 --> 1:15:03.519 we get another X Men moment where she Gabdullah says, 1:15:03.680 --> 1:15:08.599 you know, just because he's being peaceful, he's he's meeting 1:15:08.640 --> 1:15:11.040 them as friends. He offers them cookies. Agent Diva once 1:15:11.080 --> 1:15:13.960 again doesn't take off her shoes, disrespectful, racist bitch like 1:15:14.000 --> 1:15:17.439 she is just the worst. But he still comes to 1:15:17.520 --> 1:15:19.800 her with cookies. He comes to her with friendship. And 1:15:19.840 --> 1:15:21.920 you know, the kids want to know why, and he says, 1:15:22.320 --> 1:15:25.240 just because they make you their enemy, it doesn't mean 1:15:25.240 --> 1:15:28.080 you have to make them yours. That's your Charles Xavier moment, 1:15:28.160 --> 1:15:32.160 right that just because they hate and fear us doesn't 1:15:32.200 --> 1:15:34.280 mean we shouldn't protect them, doesn't mean, we shouldn't come 1:15:34.320 --> 1:15:34.719 with peace. 1:15:34.800 --> 1:15:36.400 And that was when I realized. 1:15:36.439 --> 1:15:38.880 I was like, oh, this is this is textures. 1:15:39.120 --> 1:15:39.760 They really are. 1:15:40.080 --> 1:15:41.479 This is text going for it. 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:43.439 And it is early X. 1:15:43.400 --> 1:15:46.280 Men too, because I will one thing that I think 1:15:46.720 --> 1:15:49.880 in the mid two thousands to now that X Men 1:15:49.960 --> 1:15:56.600 stories have done really well is is radicalized in a 1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:59.519 way that felt earned. We can get in later when 1:15:59.520 --> 1:16:00.519 we talk about the X Men. 1:16:00.560 --> 1:16:01.760 But at a certain point. 1:16:02.880 --> 1:16:06.080 When you've been engaging with the Charles Xavier philosophy for 1:16:06.120 --> 1:16:09.000 that long and all you were met and all you 1:16:09.080 --> 1:16:12.040 are met with is jen literal genocide like twenty million 1:16:12.080 --> 1:16:16.679 dead on Genosha, constant genocide, you have to ask, at 1:16:16.760 --> 1:16:20.559 what point is it enough? We're not there yet, but 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:23.240 it's uh. I love what Shakob Dilla said there, and 1:16:23.280 --> 1:16:24.280 thank you for bringing that up. 1:16:24.479 --> 1:16:24.839 Okay. 1:16:25.200 --> 1:16:29.120 Kamala finds Bruno and Camraan in the alley and they 1:16:29.200 --> 1:16:33.120 all get away just before the sirens find them. Kamala 1:16:33.160 --> 1:16:36.080 calls Kareem. It's like, listen, I have a friend. He 1:16:36.200 --> 1:16:38.840 is a clandestine I'm sorry about that. I know you 1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:41.200 don't like them, but we got to I have to 1:16:41.240 --> 1:16:43.960 get him out of here. And he's like, Okay, I 1:16:44.000 --> 1:16:45.800 know someone who can get him out, get him to 1:16:45.840 --> 1:16:49.880 the harbor at midnight. Very mysterious, but hello, Kareem, he's 1:16:50.120 --> 1:16:55.080 bought some secret connections. We need to know more about this. 1:16:55.439 --> 1:16:58.240 Our friends then break into the school where they meet Nokia, 1:16:58.240 --> 1:17:02.240 who's definitely pissed because Kamala didn't tell her about the 1:17:02.280 --> 1:17:06.240 powers and the bangle and stuff. Kamala apologizes, but there's 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:08.720 no time to apologize because damage. 1:17:08.400 --> 1:17:14.960 Control is outside. Pause here. I think, damage control, how. 1:17:14.840 --> 1:17:17.240 Are they following him? How did how are they one 1:17:17.320 --> 1:17:22.120 step behind camera all the time. I think they've developed, 1:17:22.720 --> 1:17:26.880 as the Sentinels in the comics, they have this technology. 1:17:27.080 --> 1:17:32.120 They have developed somehow a way to target onto a 1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:34.040 power signature and to follow it. 1:17:34.040 --> 1:17:35.639 It's obviously at very early. 1:17:35.520 --> 1:17:39.160 Days, it's not super refined, but they've figured out a 1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:40.000 way to do it. 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:43.599 I agree, it's essentially in the MCU world right. There 1:17:43.720 --> 1:17:47.120 is only so much fantastical stuff, and we're getting a 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:49.120 lot more into it. But I definitely think you could 1:17:49.160 --> 1:17:52.440 do something like power signatures, heat signatures. There's a radioactivity 1:17:52.479 --> 1:17:56.799 because the waves of power. It's not genetic mutation yet, 1:17:56.960 --> 1:17:59.559 that's not what they're sensing. But they are sensing powered stuff. 1:17:59.600 --> 1:18:03.639 And I was I just want to say, like when yeah, 1:18:03.680 --> 1:18:06.920 the high choosing the high school, that is another X 1:18:07.000 --> 1:18:11.200 Men moment, you X school and you know that is 1:18:11.240 --> 1:18:16.080 something where as we'll see that there is no way 1:18:16.120 --> 1:18:19.040 that it cannot evoke, especially the X Men comics, but 1:18:19.200 --> 1:18:21.880 especially those Zeros X Men movies where the d O 1:18:22.000 --> 1:18:23.840 d C are coming through these halls. So you've got 1:18:23.840 --> 1:18:27.000 these military people in these school halls. It feels like 1:18:27.080 --> 1:18:28.920 an X Men movie. They they know what they're doing 1:18:28.960 --> 1:18:31.400 and there's a great moment where as. 1:18:31.320 --> 1:18:35.720 The even the way they're geared up, well we'll get 1:18:35.800 --> 1:18:39.600 to this, but like even the way they're geared up, 1:18:39.600 --> 1:18:44.200 you're absolutely right, this is X two X Men United exactly, exactly. 1:18:43.960 --> 1:18:46.599 Totally they have They have a moment that comes up 1:18:46.920 --> 1:18:49.120 like just in one minute, which we would which is 1:18:49.200 --> 1:18:53.439 just so throwaway, is like they what are they using 1:18:53.560 --> 1:18:56.280 to prepare for this fight? Right in the high school 1:18:56.320 --> 1:18:59.080 and they choose softballs, and the X Men playing softball 1:18:59.200 --> 1:18:59.759 is like one. 1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:02.200 Of the beloved t's an absolutely touchdown. 1:19:02.360 --> 1:19:04.719 Technically they in the Clemont stuff, you know, it's baseball, 1:19:04.760 --> 1:19:06.880 and throughout comics it kind of has changed between the two. 1:19:07.040 --> 1:19:09.080 But you know that that was when I was like, oh, okay, 1:19:09.120 --> 1:19:11.240 they know no. I was like, they're not doing this. 1:19:12.320 --> 1:19:14.960 You're literally using softballs in your part, Like this is 1:19:15.040 --> 1:19:17.599 a thing that you're doing, and you know that you're 1:19:17.640 --> 1:19:21.880 essentially letting these kids, Bruno, Nokia, you know, Cameron soon 1:19:21.920 --> 1:19:24.080 to be joined by Kamala's brother. You're letting them have 1:19:24.080 --> 1:19:26.040 the X Men moment, and I just love that. 1:19:26.760 --> 1:19:30.479 Kamala tries to get Bruno and Nakia to leave, but 1:19:30.600 --> 1:19:33.360 before they even talk about that, Zoe shows up. She's like, 1:19:33.400 --> 1:19:35.280 I was in the theater of filming tiktoks because of 1:19:35.280 --> 1:19:37.400 the lighting. Babe, get a ring, light ring. 1:19:37.600 --> 1:19:38.639 They're very, very cheap. 1:19:38.920 --> 1:19:41.240 She wants to be a part of this big fight 1:19:41.320 --> 1:19:44.000 mission and you know what, why not? 1:19:44.200 --> 1:19:44.439 Sure? 1:19:44.560 --> 1:19:46.960 Actually she has an important role to play. Everyone is 1:19:46.960 --> 1:19:51.080 staying put, including Kamala's brother Amir shows up, and so 1:19:51.160 --> 1:19:52.680 it's time for the big plan. And here it is 1:19:53.920 --> 1:19:57.720 distract damage control so comrade can get the safety. Meanwhile, 1:19:58.120 --> 1:20:00.880 Zoe will leverage her social media file to put out 1:20:00.880 --> 1:20:03.799 a call to action to the community to get eyes 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:07.639 here so people can see what's happening, so damage control 1:20:08.360 --> 1:20:11.920 can't just go like full like kill the mutants or 1:20:12.200 --> 1:20:15.559 capture the mutants so they can well capture the powered people. 1:20:15.560 --> 1:20:19.120 We'll just call it an individual and enhanced individuals so 1:20:19.160 --> 1:20:22.920 that they can study them. By the way, you know, 1:20:23.080 --> 1:20:25.320 just want to mention love the. 1:20:25.320 --> 1:20:28.639 Use of the. 1:20:27.479 --> 1:20:32.760 The Circular Star Wars and New Hope Stun ray. 1:20:32.840 --> 1:20:33.320 That's what. 1:20:34.960 --> 1:20:37.439 You know, established in nineteen seventy seven. This is what 1:20:37.520 --> 1:20:40.000 the stun looks like. It's that little hollow, smoke ring 1:20:40.080 --> 1:20:44.120 circle that goes out and hits people. Okay, outside Divers 1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:47.240 on the phone with Agent Cleary, Damage Control is ready 1:20:47.320 --> 1:20:47.840 for a siege. 1:20:47.880 --> 1:20:48.679 They're outside the school. 1:20:48.680 --> 1:20:51.880 They're getting ready to charge in, and Cleary is like, 1:20:52.080 --> 1:20:55.880 are you fucking crazy? Even yeah, you're gonna tack kids 1:20:55.960 --> 1:20:59.600 in a school. Don't do this, like stand down absolutely 1:20:59.680 --> 1:21:01.280 right now. I want to hear you say it. And 1:21:01.280 --> 1:21:03.680 Dever's like, yep, standing, yeah, you got it, hangs up 1:21:03.680 --> 1:21:06.200 and goes Nope, call additional units. 1:21:06.200 --> 1:21:06.920 We're going in. 1:21:07.600 --> 1:21:11.759 Uh now our heroes for our friends. Their plan works. 1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:13.360 There's only a few hiccups. 1:21:13.800 --> 1:21:14.200 Uh. 1:21:14.560 --> 1:21:19.160 One hiccup is Kamala and Comrade almost kiss, and then Bruno's. 1:21:18.640 --> 1:21:23.720 In the classic The X Mans. 1:21:24.439 --> 1:21:29.479 Trigle, gotta have that love. Trigle love love a love 1:21:29.560 --> 1:21:33.759 triangle between enhanced the individuals. Uh uh. 1:21:34.000 --> 1:21:36.720 And then the other little wrinkle is Comrade figures out 1:21:36.760 --> 1:21:39.400 that his mom is dead and that uh and that 1:21:39.520 --> 1:21:42.479 Kamala has been hiding this from him. And then naturally, 1:21:42.479 --> 1:21:45.800 because he learns this, he's already not in control of 1:21:45.840 --> 1:21:49.080 his powers, but then he just takes all the safeguards 1:21:49.160 --> 1:21:52.080 off and we it's kind of cool because we get 1:21:52.080 --> 1:21:54.320 to see what Commrad could really do. He pulls all 1:21:54.360 --> 1:21:56.800 the lockers down on the damage. 1:21:56.400 --> 1:21:58.599 Control goons, but and then. 1:22:00.240 --> 1:22:03.400 He steps out of the high school doors and faces 1:22:03.400 --> 1:22:08.400 down damage control. This is Magneto at the police station, 1:22:08.960 --> 1:22:13.760 is the first, That's what it is. 1:22:13.840 --> 1:22:16.960 And also he has his this is his Magneo moment, 1:22:17.000 --> 1:22:18.559 you know, and Zoe. 1:22:18.520 --> 1:22:19.960 Has Zoe has gone. 1:22:22.520 --> 1:22:26.639 He's gone, right, but like, and Zoe's called all these 1:22:26.680 --> 1:22:30.080 people via her social media and they're all outside watching 1:22:30.320 --> 1:22:33.559 very Spider Man two on the train. Right. The public 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:35.679 is here, The public is in support, but for Cameron, 1:22:36.040 --> 1:22:39.880 it's too heartbreaking and and it's very interesting because they 1:22:39.960 --> 1:22:45.200 get to have Kamala and Cameron get to have this. 1:22:46.040 --> 1:22:49.920 Eric and Charles moment, it is very Eric. 1:22:50.400 --> 1:22:51.280 Where is that? 1:22:51.800 --> 1:22:56.320 Kamala realizes that what Cameron needs she cannot give him. 1:22:56.400 --> 1:22:58.240 But what she can do is give him a chance 1:22:58.320 --> 1:23:01.519 to leave. This is not the right choice. Don't become 1:23:01.600 --> 1:23:03.920 this danger, don't become the thing that they want you 1:23:04.000 --> 1:23:06.240 to be. And if you can't do that, just go 1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:08.760 and I'll let you go. And I was like, wow, 1:23:08.800 --> 1:23:10.439 it's Charles and Eric, baby, it. 1:23:11.160 --> 1:23:14.200 Is in miniature is Charles and Eric. Uh? 1:23:14.400 --> 1:23:20.519 So Cam faces down damage troll, Kamala uh protects him. 1:23:20.880 --> 1:23:21.519 This is all. 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:26.879 Witnessed by the crowds, who Zoe called Kamalavin like is able. 1:23:28.160 --> 1:23:31.360 She has just been practicing enough, working at it enough, 1:23:31.840 --> 1:23:35.920 has hit that emotional level into and intellectual level and 1:23:36.000 --> 1:23:39.120 physical level where she's she unlocks like the final level 1:23:39.160 --> 1:23:41.680 of her powers and we can see everything she can do. 1:23:41.840 --> 1:23:43.120 She's got the two in big in hand. 1:23:43.200 --> 1:23:48.360 She's punching Comvi's across the fucking She's giant, She's giant manning. 1:23:48.439 --> 1:23:50.960 She's like bullets are bouncing off her. 1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:54.840 She's catching the hum vy that that Comraon accidentally through 1:23:55.080 --> 1:23:56.920 at like the entire community. 1:23:57.000 --> 1:23:59.479 She saves all their lives. And then, as you said, 1:23:59.520 --> 1:23:59.960 they have that. 1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:04.320 At Eric and Charles moment, she puts this like shield 1:24:04.360 --> 1:24:06.720 of light around them and then they have it out. 1:24:06.720 --> 1:24:10.120 They have that talk and and she is like fine, 1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:13.840 punches a hole in the ground as like just crawl 1:24:13.880 --> 1:24:15.280 through there, escape to the harbor. 1:24:15.479 --> 1:24:15.559 Go. 1:24:17.320 --> 1:24:20.960 Damage Control tries to arrest Kamala, but the entire neighborhood 1:24:21.120 --> 1:24:25.719 stands in between them and just crazy Dear. They deer 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:30.200 est her, and then Kamala escapes. Cleary calls Dever and 1:24:30.240 --> 1:24:34.360 he is fucking heated. He relieves her of command. The 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:37.439 question is, well, let's let's finish this. 1:24:40.400 --> 1:24:42.200 There's no glow. He relieves her a command. 1:24:42.320 --> 1:24:46.919 Later, all of Jersey City is buzzing about the historic 1:24:46.960 --> 1:24:50.599 events and they all got to witness it. And and 1:24:50.640 --> 1:24:53.160 not only that, but they have their very own superheroes 1:24:53.200 --> 1:24:56.160 protecting they are. And as Spider Man does Manhattan, as 1:24:56.240 --> 1:24:57.599 Daredevil does else kitchen. 1:24:57.640 --> 1:24:58.200 This is so great. 1:24:58.200 --> 1:25:02.360 They got their own superhero. Kamala in her room, posing 1:25:02.400 --> 1:25:05.040 in her suit as one would naturally do if one 1:25:05.080 --> 1:25:10.519 was a superhero. She talks to her dad and they 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:14.599 talk about just life and her journey, and he says, 1:25:14.720 --> 1:25:17.360 you know what Kamala means. It means kind of means 1:25:17.479 --> 1:25:19.960 Marvel sort of, you're like our miss Marvel and the 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:20.840 name is coined. 1:25:20.880 --> 1:25:21.840 It's a wonderful moment. 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:22.320 Love that. 1:25:22.920 --> 1:25:26.880 Meanwhile, Cam makes it to Karachi where Kareem gives him 1:25:26.880 --> 1:25:29.559 a little head nod and takes him in. And then 1:25:29.560 --> 1:25:32.639 we fast forward. One week later, Brunio and Knakia pull 1:25:32.720 --> 1:25:36.120 up in com Run's whip, his sports car, which I 1:25:36.280 --> 1:25:38.800 have to say, who's paying the insurance? 1:25:39.360 --> 1:25:41.400 There's a lot of questions about that. Can you just 1:25:41.479 --> 1:25:41.920 keep doing? 1:25:42.040 --> 1:25:45.000 Can you just keep driving this car? I understand did 1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:48.519 he sign over the title and everything? Anyway, I'm not 1:25:48.520 --> 1:25:51.040 gonna worry about it. Bruno has big news. He has 1:25:51.120 --> 1:25:55.439 been studying Kamala's biological makeup and also her powers, and 1:25:55.479 --> 1:25:56.080 he says. 1:25:55.840 --> 1:25:57.240 You know what, your geets are a little different. 1:25:58.040 --> 1:26:08.400 It's almost like you've undergone a mutation. Burning man. The 1:26:08.439 --> 1:26:12.400 fact that they threw that in there, it almost felt 1:26:12.400 --> 1:26:13.080 too much about it. 1:26:13.280 --> 1:26:14.360 Honestly, they want to. 1:26:14.479 --> 1:26:16.720 They had to do it because the truth they had 1:26:16.760 --> 1:26:19.919 to tell you. You've heard, We've heard the term mutation 1:26:20.439 --> 1:26:21.559 in the MCU before and. 1:26:21.520 --> 1:26:23.280 You're like, ooh, but this one. 1:26:23.320 --> 1:26:26.679 They were like X men. They were like, right, now 1:26:26.880 --> 1:26:29.200 the plan will we see it for see? Who knows? 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:32.360 But the plan right now, she is a mutant. This 1:26:32.560 --> 1:26:35.080 is X Men. She is an X Men style muntant. 1:26:35.320 --> 1:26:38.960 And you that is how powerful that theme is that 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:41.160 you can put that there and everyone's like, oh shit, 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:43.280 she's an x Like, this is X Men, the X 1:26:43.320 --> 1:26:45.760 Men in the MCU and you started it. 1:26:45.720 --> 1:26:51.160 Here as old King Mike on Instagram DMed me, uh, 1:26:51.280 --> 1:26:54.960 he dm me, he dm me that the meme picture 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:57.360 of the guy who was you know, outside is Hater's 1:26:57.400 --> 1:27:00.599 funeral and he said how the X Men undressed as 1:27:00.600 --> 1:27:03.200 they watched the final nail go in the in Humans coffin. Yes, 1:27:03.520 --> 1:27:07.720 it is true, irony that the character who in the 1:27:07.800 --> 1:27:11.200 comics was created because Marvel was looking for a way 1:27:11.760 --> 1:27:16.200 to have X Men that they owned as their own IP. 1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:18.880 To put in the movies and it was gonna be 1:27:18.880 --> 1:27:19.600 the Inhumans. 1:27:19.880 --> 1:27:23.920 To now have that character in the in the TV 1:27:24.240 --> 1:27:27.800 and film property side now be revealed to be a 1:27:27.880 --> 1:27:33.519 mutant is just crazy, unbelievable shit. 1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:37.439 Especially because like Kamala, everyone's assumption was she just was 1:27:37.479 --> 1:27:40.000 a mutant because that is how people in the comics 1:27:40.040 --> 1:27:42.720 get their powers. But then it ended up being that 1:27:42.720 --> 1:27:45.400 she got her powers through terogenesis, she made her an inhuman, 1:27:45.439 --> 1:27:49.280 the most famous in human arguably ever honestly and the 1:27:49.280 --> 1:27:51.960 most well known because of past successful The comic was 1:27:52.120 --> 1:27:53.640 the very funny thing is it put her in this 1:27:53.800 --> 1:27:57.599 very hilarious group of characters like Spider Man, like Falcon, 1:27:57.760 --> 1:27:59.840 where it's like they were almost a mutant. But then 1:27:59.840 --> 1:28:02.360 it revealed that they all at times they almost made 1:28:02.400 --> 1:28:05.320 the mutes. So this feels very full circle. 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.040 Though I'm still talking to those birds. 1:28:07.680 --> 1:28:09.760 Now, you know, I'm saying in the comics they never 1:28:09.800 --> 1:28:12.840 really they never really bds. 1:28:13.160 --> 1:28:14.360 Is that a secondary mutation? 1:28:14.520 --> 1:28:16.880 So I have a I have a theory. 1:28:16.920 --> 1:28:20.519 Well, let's go let's do the Oh, okay, okay, let's 1:28:20.520 --> 1:28:22.320 go through the stinger and then and then we could 1:28:22.760 --> 1:28:25.559 dive into it. So Stinger, Kamala's in her bedroom when 1:28:25.560 --> 1:28:29.280 the Bengal starts acting weird, She's suddenly thrown through her 1:28:29.280 --> 1:28:32.000 closet door, crashing into the closet, and then when she 1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:35.800 comes out, it's not Kamala, it's Carol Danvers. They have 1:28:36.520 --> 1:28:42.400 switched places in the universe somehow, and we can only 1:28:42.439 --> 1:28:46.280 assume that Kamala is somewhere where Carol just was what 1:28:46.400 --> 1:28:50.040 is going on? And then we're done, and then it says, uh, 1:28:50.320 --> 1:28:55.439 miss Marvel will appear, will be back again in the Marvels. Okay, 1:28:55.520 --> 1:28:57.880 let's talk about everything. First of all, let's just say 1:28:57.880 --> 1:28:58.360 we were right. 1:28:58.560 --> 1:28:59.720 Yeah, we were right, we were right. 1:29:00.479 --> 1:29:06.720 We read about about this story, which yes. 1:29:06.680 --> 1:29:11.640 Me, okay, I'll explain this thinger. So, so this is 1:29:11.720 --> 1:29:14.600 very funny because I think it is a very interesting 1:29:14.760 --> 1:29:17.719 choice because I think for maybe fifty or sixty percent 1:29:17.720 --> 1:29:19.360 of people who watched it, they were like, oh, maybe 1:29:19.439 --> 1:29:22.599 Kamala shape shifted into Carol. That's a comic book powers 1:29:22.680 --> 1:29:26.799 They were like, maybe that was weird, why did it happen? 1:29:27.080 --> 1:29:30.120 But if you are a comics reader of a certain age, 1:29:30.560 --> 1:29:32.599 or you have read a lot of old comic books, 1:29:32.760 --> 1:29:35.240 you were immediately like, oh my god, they just Rick 1:29:35.360 --> 1:29:40.519 Jones us Jones. Now, who is Rick Jones mass. Rick 1:29:40.600 --> 1:29:43.960 Jones is like the Marvel's perennial sidekick. He is very 1:29:44.000 --> 1:29:47.120 much maligned. He began as a Hulk sidekick. He's been 1:29:47.120 --> 1:29:49.920 a sidekick to Captain America, where he was essentially. 1:29:50.400 --> 1:29:52.400 Captain America by pretending to be Bucky. 1:29:52.960 --> 1:29:55.200 Let's just say that in the comics. So the origin 1:29:55.280 --> 1:29:59.240 story of Rick Jones is the reason that Bruce Banner 1:29:59.320 --> 1:30:01.639 is the hok is because Rick Jones is a fucking 1:30:01.760 --> 1:30:06.360 moron and he wandered into wandered into like a Gamma 1:30:06.400 --> 1:30:11.720 bomb experiment site and was just like hey, and so 1:30:11.800 --> 1:30:15.120 Bruce Banner had run out and like tackle him into 1:30:15.160 --> 1:30:17.640 like a ditch so he wouldn't get it radiated. And 1:30:17.640 --> 1:30:19.320 that's how Bruce Bayner got I radiated. 1:30:19.320 --> 1:30:20.880 And at some point. 1:30:20.640 --> 1:30:22.719 Someone was like, oh, yeah, we should like make him 1:30:22.800 --> 1:30:25.879 like a superhero. He's gonna from this team, the Team Brigade. 1:30:26.320 --> 1:30:30.760 You know, he's gonna be an accessible kid hero and 1:30:30.760 --> 1:30:34.559 and kind of throughout comics he's been. He's been in 1:30:34.600 --> 1:30:37.519 that role for many many characters beginning he's. 1:30:39.160 --> 1:30:41.360 A bomb and he was a rock star. 1:30:41.640 --> 1:30:45.320 Yeah, and he's always just a really generic dude. That's 1:30:45.360 --> 1:30:49.160 like the funniest thing. And it's like he is just 1:30:49.240 --> 1:30:54.160 a perennial that guy in London. We would call him 1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:56.639 a side man. Yeah, it's like so it's like it's 1:30:56.720 --> 1:31:00.200 really funny. But the reason he is relevant here is 1:31:00.240 --> 1:31:07.000 that in the original Captain Marvel comics, Marvel Marvel was 1:31:07.040 --> 1:31:10.880 given the Naga Bands which we were right. We did 1:31:10.920 --> 1:31:14.599 predict that the Negga bands may be the Bangles, maybe 1:31:14.600 --> 1:31:17.280 a representation of them. Remember we saw the bangle first 1:31:17.280 --> 1:31:19.840 come off a blue skinned arm, which implies they were Cree. 1:31:20.720 --> 1:31:23.400 Captain Marvel was given the Nagga bands. When he and 1:31:23.520 --> 1:31:27.400 Rick Jones wore the Negga bands, they could switch places. Yes, 1:31:27.640 --> 1:31:31.400 Rick Jones essentially became Captain Marvel's Earth alter ego, and 1:31:31.479 --> 1:31:34.439 when he tapped the Negga bands, Captain Marvel would take 1:31:34.439 --> 1:31:37.759 his place. Now, whenever one of them was not on Earth, 1:31:37.880 --> 1:31:41.679 the other one was stuck Nega bands in the negative zone. 1:31:43.120 --> 1:31:46.479 It is very interesting to then see that here because 1:31:46.479 --> 1:31:48.880 that is essentially what we just saw happen to Kamala. 1:31:48.920 --> 1:31:52.080 The big question is, as we have briefly mentioned before 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.559 in Marvel, we have not met the negative zone. The 1:31:55.600 --> 1:31:58.720 negative zone is an important Fantastic four location. There are 1:31:58.720 --> 1:32:01.200 a lot of connections that could be made. Yeah, what 1:32:01.240 --> 1:32:04.600 we have met is the quantum realm, and there is 1:32:04.640 --> 1:32:07.760 a version, a later version of the bands that are 1:32:07.920 --> 1:32:11.479 the quantum bands. So which one is it gonna be? 1:32:11.560 --> 1:32:13.640 That's kind of the big question. But that's that's the 1:32:13.720 --> 1:32:15.680 Rick jonesiness of it all and that is all. 1:32:15.760 --> 1:32:19.519 So let let me add it well before we go there, 1:32:19.560 --> 1:32:21.960 let me add another wrinkle to this, another X Men 1:32:22.160 --> 1:32:26.920 style wrinkle in the comics UH Rogue, famous X Men. 1:32:27.120 --> 1:32:33.160 Who's whose power is that she touches someone and then 1:32:33.200 --> 1:32:36.280 she takes their memories And if she touches. 1:32:36.040 --> 1:32:38.800 A powered she touches a music power, she steals. 1:32:38.479 --> 1:32:40.719 Their powers for a time, and for a time because 1:32:41.040 --> 1:32:45.360 she had come into contact with Carol Danvers, Captain Marvel, UH, 1:32:45.800 --> 1:32:51.520 Captain Marvel's psyche became embedded in Rogue and would occasionally 1:32:51.560 --> 1:32:54.479 come out at different times and it would be Carol Danvers, 1:32:54.920 --> 1:32:55.400 where am I? 1:32:55.479 --> 1:32:55.679 What? 1:32:55.680 --> 1:32:55.800 What? 1:32:55.840 --> 1:32:56.320 Body? Man? 1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:56.519 What? 1:32:56.640 --> 1:32:56.680 Was? 1:32:57.680 --> 1:32:58.400 Are they? 1:32:59.520 --> 1:33:03.240 Are they not just Rick joinsing Kamala? But are they 1:33:03.400 --> 1:33:04.439 roguing Kamala? 1:33:04.800 --> 1:33:05.759 Are they roguing? 1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:09.000 Are they roguing Kamala? And Captain Marvel. 1:33:09.400 --> 1:33:12.160 I'm trying to work out, like Saul just put Freaky Friday, 1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:14.599 So I'm basically saying like I'm trying to work out 1:33:14.880 --> 1:33:18.639 what the purpose of this choice is. It definitely seems 1:33:18.720 --> 1:33:22.760 like it's setting up the Marvels, right. Carol has to 1:33:23.080 --> 1:33:27.360 find where this young girl went missing or get back 1:33:27.400 --> 1:33:30.280 to where she was, so she enlists Monica, and obviously 1:33:30.320 --> 1:33:32.400 they're gonna have to get over that beef that Monica 1:33:32.479 --> 1:33:36.120 understandably has with her for like constantly just breezing on Earth. 1:33:36.360 --> 1:33:38.959 But what I think is really interesting is we definitely 1:33:39.000 --> 1:33:43.559 know one thing. Carol was off Earth and nobody knew 1:33:43.560 --> 1:33:46.320 where she was. That is a recurring talking point in 1:33:46.360 --> 1:33:48.559 this season where people like, where's Captain Marvel? Why does 1:33:48.640 --> 1:33:50.960 nobody know? We assumed she would just being her usual 1:33:51.560 --> 1:33:55.120 off in the universe, leaving everyone by themselvesself, But obviously 1:33:55.160 --> 1:33:57.840 she was trapped in this place, and in some way 1:33:58.000 --> 1:34:02.719 it's connected to the band, or the band called Carol 1:34:02.800 --> 1:34:06.760 back because of her connection to the Cree. It is unbelievable. 1:34:07.160 --> 1:34:11.960 I've always ever since they did introduce Carol into the MCU, 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:15.200 I've wanted them to do the rogue stuff. I hope 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:19.559 that if it happens, that is another addition of rogue 1:34:19.560 --> 1:34:22.680 coming in. Maybe they need rogue to separate the two 1:34:22.720 --> 1:34:24.519 of them or something. But seeing as we only have 1:34:24.600 --> 1:34:27.479 one bangle, I think the Marvels is going to continue 1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:29.040 our art to fact trend and we're going to have 1:34:29.040 --> 1:34:33.599 to see Carol seeking out that other bangle to kind 1:34:33.600 --> 1:34:36.040 of get control of this. Now what I really want 1:34:36.080 --> 1:34:37.519 to know because this could be very fun. I have 1:34:37.600 --> 1:34:40.840 to say, yeah, this I'm hoping whatever the Marvels is 1:34:40.840 --> 1:34:43.439 is a little bit of a recontextualization of Captain Marvel 1:34:43.520 --> 1:34:46.000 in the way they did with Thor and with Doctor Strange. 1:34:46.439 --> 1:34:50.400 Because I loved this end with Brie Larsen. There was 1:34:50.439 --> 1:34:52.799 so much more humor in it than Carol's been allowed 1:34:52.800 --> 1:34:54.920 to have before, and it was very kind of wacky, 1:34:54.960 --> 1:34:59.360 and her costume was badass. So I would, yeah, I'd 1:34:59.400 --> 1:35:01.120 be very happy to see where this is going to go. 1:35:01.200 --> 1:35:04.200 And I really want to know if Caroly and Kamala 1:35:04.240 --> 1:35:07.559 will be able to communicate because Rick James Jones and 1:35:07.600 --> 1:35:10.240 Captain Marvel they can communicate when one of them is 1:35:10.240 --> 1:35:13.120 in the negative zone. So it will be really fun 1:35:13.160 --> 1:35:15.160 to see if that's something they bring in. And also 1:35:15.760 --> 1:35:18.479 another thing, this is kind of more serious narrative, but 1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:21.640 like I wonder if because now Caroly and Kamala are 1:35:21.720 --> 1:35:24.719 so connected, I wonder if they'll follow the comic book 1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:27.880 ark that they took, where Kamala comes to that realization 1:35:28.000 --> 1:35:32.439 that Carol is not necessarily the hero on a pedestal. 1:35:32.400 --> 1:35:36.840 That she and it's different. Yeah, there's a different. I mean, listen, 1:35:36.920 --> 1:35:43.200 Carol is Carol. Carol in the comics has taken the 1:35:43.320 --> 1:35:45.720 side that I would prefer her not to take. I 1:35:45.760 --> 1:35:49.519 can come multiple multiple times across the history of the 1:35:49.560 --> 1:35:53.840 Marvel she's on the wrong side of both civil wars. 1:35:53.880 --> 1:35:59.599 Like I love her, but she she she's a cop. 1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:02.439 She's just she's a space cop. She's a space cop. 1:36:02.479 --> 1:36:04.519 I don't want to see who she votes for. Let's 1:36:04.520 --> 1:36:06.439 just put it that way with Carol, who again I love. 1:36:08.040 --> 1:36:12.400 Let's talk about you know what we've talked so many 1:36:12.439 --> 1:36:15.000 times about how how are they going to bring the 1:36:15.120 --> 1:36:15.320 X Men? 1:36:15.360 --> 1:36:16.120 How are they going to do it? 1:36:16.160 --> 1:36:19.599 First of all, let's just say that what this shows us, 1:36:19.720 --> 1:36:22.679 and what WandaVision showed us as well, is that mutants 1:36:22.720 --> 1:36:26.960 are here. Whatever however they do it, they've already laid. 1:36:26.800 --> 1:36:28.800 The groundwork for mutants are already here. 1:36:28.840 --> 1:36:31.559 Now, what we didn't know and what we said in 1:36:31.600 --> 1:36:35.680 the past was super important track to be laid to 1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:37.800 eventually introduce these mutants is we need to get to 1:36:37.840 --> 1:36:41.200 a place where powered people are hated and feared or else. 1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:43.440 Why even have the X Men? They're just like superheroes, 1:36:43.439 --> 1:36:46.519 Like everyone we've we're getting there now. Ye yeah, we're 1:36:46.880 --> 1:36:50.439 the way that Deaver acts the way they exactly department, which, 1:36:50.479 --> 1:36:52.799 by the way, is hilarious because Department of Damage Control 1:36:52.920 --> 1:36:56.479 is just like the fucking Keystone Cops and the car exactly. 1:36:56.960 --> 1:36:59.240 So this is this is the thing I'm really interested in. 1:36:59.280 --> 1:37:01.400 So I think that two routes that Diva could go. 1:37:02.120 --> 1:37:07.439 I think that we will either see her essentially go 1:37:07.560 --> 1:37:12.600 to Sword and steal some kind of technology from DODC 1:37:12.760 --> 1:37:15.000 and take it there and create what the sentinels are 1:37:15.000 --> 1:37:18.080 because we saw the big size mechs, we saw something 1:37:18.160 --> 1:37:20.640 like that, So I feel like that could happen, or 1:37:21.160 --> 1:37:25.120 a really interesting route, which is another incredibly important thing 1:37:25.160 --> 1:37:28.120 to have in an x Men story. I wonder if 1:37:28.520 --> 1:37:32.680 she doesn't necessarily continue her route as a agent, but 1:37:32.760 --> 1:37:36.120 she becomes the x Men hate the pat that enhanced 1:37:36.120 --> 1:37:40.160 individual hating politician. That's such a key part of the 1:37:40.400 --> 1:37:44.599 x Men law, and I could definitely see her running 1:37:44.600 --> 1:37:48.600 on a platform. It's very easy to stoke mass violence 1:37:48.640 --> 1:37:51.640 and mass fear and mass confusion when you have a 1:37:51.720 --> 1:37:55.320 huge political platform. So I think that could be another 1:37:55.400 --> 1:37:58.040 route where we go on this escalated version and then 1:37:58.080 --> 1:38:01.680 once she is in power, she can take over DODC 1:38:01.880 --> 1:38:04.640 or she can create it. Even by the way stream version. 1:38:05.360 --> 1:38:09.600 What a great platform for Armor Wars for roady O 1:38:10.479 --> 1:38:14.719 to be like, they're using my friend's technology to hunt 1:38:14.760 --> 1:38:15.320 people down. 1:38:15.400 --> 1:38:18.840 That's what they're using it for. I have to stop this. Uh, 1:38:19.080 --> 1:38:21.559 it's awesome, that's great. 1:38:21.600 --> 1:38:25.439 And by the way, and so I think the X 1:38:25.479 --> 1:38:28.360 Men are around somewhere. I agree as we said, as 1:38:28.400 --> 1:38:31.759 we said last episode, like it would be no problem 1:38:31.840 --> 1:38:34.320 for Charles using his powers of Magneto with the abilities 1:38:34.320 --> 1:38:38.080 he has to just hide the whole school from everybody. 1:38:38.320 --> 1:38:42.280 If Kamala exists as she does and is her only 1:38:42.320 --> 1:38:45.080 interactions with Damage Control have been when she manifests her 1:38:45.120 --> 1:38:48.679 powers in a very public way. There is no reason 1:38:49.280 --> 1:38:52.479 that other people who a mutants might not have been around. 1:38:52.600 --> 1:38:55.519 And it's actually very narratively easy to explain it. You 1:38:55.680 --> 1:39:00.280 have these big government backed superheroes. You don't need to 1:39:00.320 --> 1:39:01.840 go out there, you don't need to put yourself in 1:39:01.920 --> 1:39:06.040 that risk. Captain America exists, the Avengers exist. That is gone. 1:39:06.120 --> 1:39:09.920 Now there is a new or there is a new 1:39:10.000 --> 1:39:13.400 generation of heroes. There is a potential that a more 1:39:13.479 --> 1:39:16.720 responsible adult in that situation at Charles or maybe even 1:39:16.720 --> 1:39:19.559 a magneto on the other side of things or a storm. 1:39:19.920 --> 1:39:21.280 You know, that's one of them. She's one of the 1:39:21.320 --> 1:39:24.439 most perennially popular characters and has been the head teacher. 1:39:24.520 --> 1:39:26.439 I think that we could see a world where they're 1:39:26.479 --> 1:39:29.360 gonna come out of that hiding to help these young people. 1:39:29.920 --> 1:39:32.439 Well, I think that the cool thing is that we've 1:39:32.439 --> 1:39:36.559 gotten to a place where it is actually the anti powered, 1:39:36.960 --> 1:39:41.600 the anti enhanced individual kind of like feeling makes a 1:39:41.640 --> 1:39:44.040 lot of sense because the previous people who had powers, 1:39:44.040 --> 1:39:45.160 everybody knew who they were. 1:39:45.160 --> 1:39:45.639 There were no. 1:39:47.760 --> 1:39:51.559 Spider Man is the first character who had a secret identity. 1:39:51.560 --> 1:39:52.559 Nobody knew who he was. 1:39:52.680 --> 1:39:56.400 But crucially, Tony Stark co signed for this person. So 1:39:56.479 --> 1:39:58.559 it seemed like, you know, you could see how the 1:39:58.600 --> 1:40:02.080 general public Okay, well Tony's that's just fine. 1:40:02.240 --> 1:40:03.000 Yeah, that's okay. 1:40:03.200 --> 1:40:08.479 But but Deaver nailed it. This is what happens when 1:40:08.479 --> 1:40:11.760 the wrong people get powers, and and that is the 1:40:11.880 --> 1:40:15.680 dynamic that's going to be at play now that mutants 1:40:15.800 --> 1:40:20.320 are starting to come to the Foe. Now, now we 1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:24.120 mentioned that clearly Damage Control has some kind of technology 1:40:24.160 --> 1:40:27.240 where they can track powers, they can hone in you know, 1:40:27.240 --> 1:40:30.040 in a very very primitive way on a power signature 1:40:30.600 --> 1:40:33.960 comrades in this case, and follow that person. They're going 1:40:34.040 --> 1:40:36.839 to hone that I think right, And I already mentioned 1:40:36.840 --> 1:40:40.960 my crazy theory that that Arnhem Sola's like algorithm is 1:40:41.000 --> 1:40:42.320 going to be a part of this process. 1:40:42.520 --> 1:40:44.720 That's actually really small. I think it makes sense. 1:40:45.280 --> 1:40:48.840 We know what they knew about doctor Strom way back 1:40:48.840 --> 1:40:49.240 in the day. 1:40:49.320 --> 1:40:52.280 Look, you know what the history of real world has 1:40:52.320 --> 1:40:57.439 told us. Yeah, any government does not have a problem 1:40:57.479 --> 1:41:01.080 with using Nazi technology or Nazi a film's science. That 1:41:01.120 --> 1:41:02.719 has been the history of. 1:41:02.840 --> 1:41:06.360 Many whoever has done the best tech. It's exactly care 1:41:06.800 --> 1:41:08.360 I like who you are. 1:41:08.520 --> 1:41:11.760 I do not believe that d O DC wouldn't have 1:41:11.960 --> 1:41:16.639 Shield tech because they care about er that is that 1:41:16.640 --> 1:41:19.639 that is gonna be what I think. 1:41:20.120 --> 1:41:23.920 I am like what we've again, we've been like, how 1:41:23.960 --> 1:41:24.400 do they do it? 1:41:24.439 --> 1:41:25.040 How do they do it? 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:27.960 I think that there's a world where as I mentioned 1:41:28.000 --> 1:41:31.080 last episode, they have this technology where they can track powers. 1:41:31.240 --> 1:41:34.639 They had that Hydra algorithm that Shield had that allowed 1:41:34.680 --> 1:41:36.680 them to kind of like crunch numbers and figure out 1:41:36.680 --> 1:41:39.160 who's going to be a threat. They combine those two things. 1:41:39.160 --> 1:41:41.280 They turn on the computer one day and they just 1:41:41.360 --> 1:41:44.960 see like some mansion in upstate New York is just 1:41:45.040 --> 1:41:48.240 all lit up with power. What and so Diver or 1:41:48.280 --> 1:41:50.680 whoever happens to be in control of this program at 1:41:50.680 --> 1:41:52.439 that point in time, just says, you know what, send 1:41:52.439 --> 1:41:57.479 in the upgraded drone and that gives us, gives us 1:41:57.479 --> 1:41:59.200 our entree to the X Men. It's just like a 1:41:59.600 --> 1:42:04.920 a classic the Sentinels are at the mansion fight between 1:42:04.960 --> 1:42:07.040 the X Men and the Sentinels. 1:42:07.080 --> 1:42:09.000 You know, we know how much X Men the animated 1:42:09.120 --> 1:42:12.120 series is impacting this at this point with the theme 1:42:12.240 --> 1:42:14.320 with the show coming out, you know, maybe they'll have 1:42:14.360 --> 1:42:17.160 them at the mall classic style, you know, I mean 1:42:17.360 --> 1:42:19.760 the classic fight where you find the Jubilee, you find 1:42:19.800 --> 1:42:21.760 the more rare at kids. I feel like there is 1:42:21.800 --> 1:42:24.960 a lot of scope. We have been thinking about this 1:42:25.040 --> 1:42:27.040 a lot because we love the X Men shock spoiler 1:42:27.040 --> 1:42:30.920 a lot, but like, I'm so impressed by how casually 1:42:31.000 --> 1:42:34.720 and easily they made it seem absolutely possible. 1:42:35.360 --> 1:42:41.280 Now Here's my question is, are have Charles and have 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:45.640 Charles and Magneto split yet in this in where we 1:42:45.720 --> 1:42:48.160 are post end game, post blit, all this stuff is 1:42:48.200 --> 1:42:54.200 for like, are they still together or did they split? Because, 1:42:55.080 --> 1:43:00.840 as someone on Twitter replied to me, you could very 1:43:00.880 --> 1:43:04.599 easily see Magneto saying, well, look, look who they accept 1:43:05.040 --> 1:43:08.120 who has powers? These normal people, they accept them, but 1:43:08.200 --> 1:43:10.200 if we were to come out, they would hate us. 1:43:11.840 --> 1:43:14.760 So we should just the power people are here and 1:43:14.800 --> 1:43:18.759 they're taking the spot that we should have as Homo superior. 1:43:18.840 --> 1:43:22.240 We should just reveal ourselves. And I could see that being, 1:43:22.680 --> 1:43:26.479 if not the break, the kind of philosophical argument that 1:43:26.760 --> 1:43:29.680 starts the break, whether or not they've actually split up. 1:43:30.439 --> 1:43:34.519 So I still think this is the biggest question because 1:43:34.560 --> 1:43:39.040 we are, you know, so far away from World War 1:43:39.080 --> 1:43:45.519 two now, but Magneto's origin is absolutely vital. So I 1:43:46.479 --> 1:43:50.240 will be very interested to see in my because of 1:43:50.280 --> 1:43:52.799 the stories I enjoy. I think I love to see 1:43:52.840 --> 1:43:55.640 a contemporary Charles and Eric, but we are in the 1:43:55.680 --> 1:43:59.320 realm of multi versus old timelines, et cetera. Time travel. 1:43:59.720 --> 1:44:01.800 Maybe there is the way that you can still have that. 1:44:01.920 --> 1:44:04.840 Maybe they're just slightly younger, Maybe they have a you know, 1:44:05.080 --> 1:44:10.600 we've seen Wolverine. He's a character, never really agent. 1:44:11.760 --> 1:44:15.760 Eric is a they can make Eric a grandchild of 1:44:17.160 --> 1:44:19.120 another way they could do it too. But I do 1:44:19.200 --> 1:44:23.439 think listen, if the again the Zola theory is all mine, 1:44:23.880 --> 1:44:25.600 it's no, this is it's crackpot. 1:44:25.800 --> 1:44:27.479 But at the same time, like you could. 1:44:27.320 --> 1:44:35.080 See if if they maintain Eric having that lineage Jewish 1:44:35.120 --> 1:44:39.440 superhero survivor of the Holocaust or children child of survivors, 1:44:39.800 --> 1:44:41.240 where he'd like, go, look. 1:44:42.880 --> 1:44:44.720 All their all their technology is. 1:44:44.760 --> 1:44:50.280 Nazi anyway, Their main security international security apparatus was like 1:44:50.640 --> 1:44:55.040 ninety five percent Nazis. Their Captain America was powered up 1:44:55.520 --> 1:44:57.920 and was supported by active. 1:44:57.600 --> 1:44:59.519 Nazis work for active Nazis. 1:44:59.520 --> 1:45:02.240 Didn't know, but still, yeah, I think that's we need 1:45:02.280 --> 1:45:04.280 to do something about this, Okay. 1:45:04.080 --> 1:45:07.479 So then I think the funniest thing is it is 1:45:07.520 --> 1:45:11.080 like very wild to be talking about this where next 1:45:11.160 --> 1:45:13.719 week we will both be in San Diego Comic Con 1:45:14.080 --> 1:45:17.960 and we will buy two weeks probably have an idea 1:45:18.200 --> 1:45:20.439 of where this is all going, because I feel like 1:45:21.160 --> 1:45:24.240 bringing in the term mutation playing the X Men team, 1:45:24.560 --> 1:45:27.799 We're probably going to get at least a title reveal 1:45:27.960 --> 1:45:30.680 or a release date for an X Men project at 1:45:30.760 --> 1:45:35.040 San Diego, maybe casting for the Fantastic Four that seems 1:45:35.080 --> 1:45:38.280 a little bit closer. So I'm very interested to see 1:45:38.280 --> 1:45:39.920 how much more that will lay out, because I think 1:45:39.920 --> 1:45:44.160 you make a really great point, and like, look, we 1:45:44.280 --> 1:45:48.519 are both Marvel stands, Like we remember the world the 1:45:48.560 --> 1:45:51.560 four Marvel studios, and we remember the desolate times of 1:45:51.600 --> 1:45:54.280 the nineties and the like Captain America movies and stuff. 1:45:54.320 --> 1:45:58.120 As much as I love them, it'sah it, we are big. 1:45:58.600 --> 1:46:00.960 We have a lot of love for these franchises. But 1:46:01.120 --> 1:46:05.320 there's probably never been a more pivotal moment since they 1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:08.120 chose to make Iron Man and they cast Robert Downey Jr. 1:46:08.200 --> 1:46:10.080 And they ended the movie with him saying I am 1:46:10.120 --> 1:46:14.799 iron Man, and they took that near bankruptcy inducing deal 1:46:15.680 --> 1:46:17.720 to put that movie up. There's probably never been an 1:46:17.760 --> 1:46:22.559 as pivotal moment since then as there is now of 1:46:22.600 --> 1:46:25.640 them getting this right, because if you don't get the 1:46:25.840 --> 1:46:30.200 X Men and or the Fantastic Four right, you're probably 1:46:30.760 --> 1:46:34.840 gonna that the road of the MCU is going to change. 1:46:35.320 --> 1:46:38.240 So I feel like it's I'm so excited, and for me, 1:46:39.360 --> 1:46:42.160 this is a great way to start with a young Also, 1:46:42.200 --> 1:46:44.840 this is very very in the weeds, but I do 1:46:44.880 --> 1:46:47.320 think it's very cute and I think it's intentional. In 1:46:47.360 --> 1:46:51.240 the comics Cininically thanks to Chris Claremont's X Memoran Our 1:46:51.240 --> 1:46:57.040 favor X Memoran, Jean Gray aka Marvel Girl, is Charles 1:46:57.200 --> 1:47:01.360 Xavier's first student. I love that in the MCU there 1:47:01.400 --> 1:47:03.799 is a world where Miss Marvel is his first student. 1:47:03.880 --> 1:47:06.040 I think there are parallels here that they're trying to 1:47:06.120 --> 1:47:09.080 make that would be really lovely and would hark back 1:47:09.120 --> 1:47:11.519 to the past of the X Men while also doing 1:47:11.560 --> 1:47:12.160 something new. 1:47:13.760 --> 1:47:14.519 I cannot wait. 1:47:14.760 --> 1:47:17.840 I cannot wait for the X Men to finally make 1:47:17.840 --> 1:47:22.160 their appearance. I And to your point, it's obviously like 1:47:22.200 --> 1:47:27.200 a huge, huge, huge step for the for Marvel to 1:47:27.280 --> 1:47:29.840 introduce the first family, the Fantastic Four and of course 1:47:29.880 --> 1:47:33.840 the X Men, who's been the flagship heroes for you know, 1:47:34.560 --> 1:47:37.880 maybe not the last ten years, but certainly the previous 1:47:37.960 --> 1:47:42.680 thirty five to forty, so it's going to be a 1:47:42.760 --> 1:47:45.679 huge deal. I'm weirdly more worried about the Fantastic Four intro, 1:47:45.840 --> 1:47:48.040 of course, though that's a class movie, because I think 1:47:48.640 --> 1:47:52.720 because I think that they've really like every To your point, 1:47:52.960 --> 1:47:55.679 this entire the finale of Miss Marvel was like an 1:47:55.840 --> 1:48:00.599 X Men story, and if and how hard they went 1:48:00.760 --> 1:48:06.440 into the Outsider no thiss, the the creating your own community, 1:48:07.000 --> 1:48:12.240 the like just embracing who you are despite the fact 1:48:12.240 --> 1:48:15.760 that like society is going to shun you if they 1:48:15.840 --> 1:48:18.960 do that, that like, if they commit to it, that 1:48:19.439 --> 1:48:21.680 this hard. When they introduce the X Men, it's all 1:48:21.680 --> 1:48:23.280 gonna be fine. I can't wait to see what happens. 1:48:23.400 --> 1:48:24.600 Yeah, unbelievable. 1:48:27.040 --> 1:48:28.280 Well that's it for us. 1:48:28.360 --> 1:48:30.639 It's a big thank you to Rosie Knight for joining 1:48:30.720 --> 1:48:31.599 us on X ray Vision. 1:48:31.640 --> 1:48:34.360 Rosie plugs plugs, plugs, plugs, plugs. Blug buh buh buh 1:48:34.360 --> 1:48:36.280 bu bu bub blub blug. Hey, well, do you got 1:48:36.280 --> 1:48:36.639 a plug? 1:48:37.160 --> 1:48:39.240 I got things to plug so you can stop putting 1:48:39.280 --> 1:48:43.519 things in your diary for cool uh events for the 1:48:43.600 --> 1:48:47.040 Godzilla signing, So I'm gonna be signing Godzilla Versus Batcher 1:48:47.320 --> 1:48:50.920 with Mark Martinez, who did an brilliant cover for that 1:48:51.200 --> 1:48:54.680 at Nostalgia Comics, So you'll be able to see us 1:48:54.720 --> 1:48:57.400 there on the release day, which is going to be Wednesday, 1:48:57.840 --> 1:49:01.080 the third of August, and then on on Saturday, the 1:49:01.280 --> 1:49:04.120 sixth of August, we will be at Pulp Fiction, which 1:49:04.200 --> 1:49:06.519 is my local comic shop in Long Beach, doing a 1:49:06.640 --> 1:49:10.040 massive Godzilla Day with a ton of cool artists. Oliver 1:49:10.080 --> 1:49:12.880 will be there, the amazing artist. We will have a 1:49:12.920 --> 1:49:15.639 bunch of local artists from the inc and Dral. We'll 1:49:15.680 --> 1:49:18.599 have my friend Brenda Chieves, an incredible cover artist Fi DW. 1:49:19.240 --> 1:49:22.080 It's just going to be really fun and that will 1:49:22.120 --> 1:49:24.360 be really cool. And next week I'll be doing a 1:49:24.479 --> 1:49:26.800 lot of stuff at San Diego, so you will be 1:49:26.880 --> 1:49:30.759 able to see there live vicariously through me. There, Jason, 1:49:30.840 --> 1:49:31.840 you will also be there. 1:49:31.760 --> 1:49:34.000 Right, Yeah, we're gonna be there. 1:49:38.520 --> 1:49:41.360 X Ray Vision has a new YouTube home that takeline 1:49:41.439 --> 1:49:44.360 channels now dedicated all things Extra Vision, so check that 1:49:44.479 --> 1:49:49.000 out for recaps, primers, etc. Also, we have a discord. 1:49:49.200 --> 1:49:51.759 Check the show notes for the link to our discord. 1:49:51.880 --> 1:49:55.200 Please join love to have you there for. 1:49:55.320 --> 1:49:56.240 Next week's episode. 1:49:56.280 --> 1:49:58.200 We're going to be at Comic Con, as we said, 1:49:58.600 --> 1:50:00.920 and we're going to do this really we've decided this 1:50:01.000 --> 1:50:05.080 whol thing. 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