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All right, let's get to our show. 0:00:41.400 --> 0:00:44.640 Flind Down with Janet Kramer and Michael Coffin and I'm 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:49.120 her radio podcast. You know, we had a radio tour 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.040 for our book, for another push for our book for 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.520 the holiday sales the other day. And I mean we 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.760 had calls scheduled from seven in the morning until two 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:01.680 thirty in the afternoon. Yeah, with limited breaks. I think 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:03.320 there's one significant break. 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:04.679 We had two breaks. 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:05.160 Two breaks. 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:07.320 We had a forty five minute break and then a 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:08.440 fifty minute break. 0:01:08.520 --> 0:01:16.200 Okay, and in that time. I took that those moments to, 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:18.840 you know, do things that most people would do, like 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:23.200 go to the bathroom, have some lunch, take a second 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.520 to just breathe and digest, since we had been talking 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:30.640 on the phone NonStop for hours on end, and come 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:32.920 to find out, what's she inna doing? Not only in 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:36.280 those forty five and fifty minute breaks, but the five 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:40.160 minute breaks, the seven minute breaks, the two minute breaks 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:43.440 that we have in between, She's doing a million other 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:47.120 different things. She went and picked up Jakes, which was awesome. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.960 Did the last call, I remember, I came downstairs be 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:54.360 like babe, babe, and you're already gone. I was like, oh, yeah, 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.040 she's already gone. So she did like the last two 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.840 calls on the phone in the car. Couldn't even tell though, 0:01:58.840 --> 0:01:59.360 So that's good. 0:01:59.560 --> 0:01:59.960 That's good. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.160 I was worried about you to hear it because we uh, 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:05.880 I was driving your truck sone no, no no, So 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.280 I I'm really afraid of that, but I didn't care 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:09.960 because I wanted to pick up Jason. 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:12.919 And the best part about it was and. 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.320 Then the one break, I went running. Yes, I had 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.800 a forty minute break, so I went running for thirty right. 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:21.400 But of course the best part about it too was 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.760 later that night, you know, we're winding out, we were 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:29.320 finishing dinner, had about forty minutes till the kids went down. 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:31.600 I told her. I was like, hey, babe, I'm asking 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:34.400 for what I need. I just need like thirty forty 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:38.680 minutes because I'm really excited about our podcast guest today, 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.920 someone that I've been trying to get on here for 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:45.120 a minute, and so I wanted to kind of prep 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:46.920 for that and then also do some other stuff with 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.880 this hat collaboration I'm working on. And she just kind 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:54.480 of smirks at me. I'm like, what, I'm asking for 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:55.040 what I need? 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.320 And I said, okay, sounds great. Would you like to 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:01.840 what would you like to do? Would you like to 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:06.239 do it before or after the kids go down? And 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.760 You're like, why are you smart? I'm like, I'm I'm 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:11.880 just trying to do my work right now, and would 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.000 you like to do it before the kids go down 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.120 or after the kids go down? And you like, wouldn't 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:17.960 drop it? You're like, why are you smirking at me? 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:20.560 And I'm and for everyone that listens to the show, 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.280 like I was trying to do my work. I was 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.359 trying to be like because in my mind, I've got 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:29.720 thoughts and I'm trying my and I feel like, first 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.640 of all, I would like to be semi affirmed for 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:36.160 that because I'm trying to not speak on that or 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.480 say things, and I'm trying to say, Okay, what would 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.960 you would you like to do it before or after? 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:45.640 And I'm you know, yes, I have a smirk on 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.920 my face, but I'm still like, you know, saying yes, 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:52.160 And I'm trying to do my work by not by 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:56.680 knowing that we're two different people, right. Like, for example, 0:03:57.000 --> 0:04:00.560 I've been trying to plan my, like a very close 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:06.560 friend's birthday and we had three minutes break and so 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.400 I'm like, okay, I could probably call this magician in 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:10.120 three minutes. But I didn't realize he was gonna like 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:14.400 tell me everything and like his upbringing. So I was like, hey, 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.000 I got to call you back. But Michael's like, you're 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:17.960 doing that now. I'm like, we have three minutes, you. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.400 Know, so, and it gives me anxiety. 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.000 Right, But again, this is where we are two different people, 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:27.160 and in the past is when I would be more 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:29.679 on you and say, well, why you know in going 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.440 straight to, well, why didn't you do that when we 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.200 were doing when we had the breaks, and so instead 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:37.040 I was trying to do my work, which I appreciated 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.120 and well, thank you because I think that's the first 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:41.120 time you affirmed me for that. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:42.720 Thank you for doing it work. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:45.120 So I was like, I'm trying to do it and 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.000 not say anything and just recognize that we're two different people, 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.560 we do things differently. But yes, in my mind I 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.520 was smirking because I'm like, God, I want to say 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:54.599 what I want to say right. 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.720 Now, but I'm what did you want to say share 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:57.560 with our listeners? 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:04.240 Well, I mean we had two significant breaks, so in 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.760 my mind, I'm like, what, but I would have done 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.719 that then instead of doing it, you know, cutting into 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:16.040 our time because we started a new thing with what 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.720 we did last night with you know, we read a 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:22.279 book together and so and then not breaking into the 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.400 kid time or I'm like, you can do it all. 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:26.640 But in my mind, I'm like, okay, that's just we 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:32.039 prioritize differently. And instead of saying anything, I just was like, Okay, 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.840 would you like to do it before or after? And 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:37.479 smiling and you were like why are you smiling? And 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.440 I'm like, I'm trying not to say what I want 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:39.960 to say. 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:41.600 Because I know you. I know you have something to 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:42.640 say and I have to know. 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:46.560 But but then you don't want this is this is 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:50.479 this is my question now though you you say you 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:52.599 want to know, but you don't like it when I 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.599 say something. So I'm trying not to say something, but 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:57.680 yet you're getting me to say the thing that I'm thinking. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:05:59.760 So it's your kind of like, well, that's. 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.440 My word, just like last night we had. 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:03.080 Something that came in situation. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:04.680 Yeah, I know, we had something that came up and 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.400 I could tell and selfishly and I'm sure you can 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:12.920 relate to this at some point. Is you know, I 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:15.520 know we're two different people, but almost I'm like, I 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:16.680 don't even want you to think that. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:20.159 How could you say that? 0:06:20.839 --> 0:06:21.279 Trust me? 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:26.920 I know that's like what I know, that's very unfair. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:31.200 Oh, I know, Okay, I understand that, and I'm sure 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:34.520 I'm not alone here, but you know, it's it's just 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.800 it's just funny. It's humorous because we are two different people, 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:42.200 and I prioritized eating food to maintain energy and live 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.600 yesterday or the other day as opposed to continue to work, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:49.640 which I did make your lunch when you're doing those things. 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:53.760 So it is interesting though, because I see what you're saying, like, 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:55.440 I don't even want you to think those things. But 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.440 women think differently, just like men think differently. I don't 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:01.680 want you to think that I always have to say 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:05.680 something or think. But again, we're two different people. And 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.240 the exact same thing happened last night because you brought 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.320 up something I think was work. Was it work related? 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:13.320 Mm hm? 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.240 And you kept prying at me, and I'm like, Mike, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.400 I'm trying to do my work by not saying anything. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.720 I changed the schedule a little bit. I moved my meeting. 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.520 Oh yeah, yeah yeah, to prepare for some other stuff. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:28.560 And I was just very confused on while you had 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.640 feelings coming up and I was starting to pry, and 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.240 then I left it alone and I let you do 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:32.760 your work. 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:33.320 Yeah. 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.680 I was just saying, it has nothing to do and 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:36.680 I kept saying, it has nothing to do with you. 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.920 This is my own stuff that I need to that 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.240 I need to do and not say and speak on 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:45.640 it because you're just gonna get annoyed and it's we're 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:47.480 just gonna have a fight. So it's like when you 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.760 kept prying. I'm like, stop telling you I had nothing 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:52.480 to do with you. 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.280 You're right, and that's my work. And for you all listening, 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:59.000 I mean, allow that person someone's saying, I'm doing my 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:00.680 work right now, love to do that because I was 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:04.640 my learning point the past couple of days, because I 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:06.200 need to, because you're right. 0:08:06.880 --> 0:08:09.000 I'm trying to do what you tell me to do, even. 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:12.120 If you say it knowing that you are thinking it 0:08:12.160 --> 0:08:12.800 will annoy me. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:16.680 Oh my god. But I'm literally trying to do what 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:19.920 you know I ask of me that annoys you. 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.760 Oh, I know I'm saying, I'm acknowledging what I'm saying 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.360 is unfair and so that's my work to allow you 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.280 to do your work. 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:30.280 It's like a lose lose though, like you've put me 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:31.240 in a lose lose situation. 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:33.680 No, it's just I just have to do my work. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:35.160 It's not a lose lose. You just have to stick 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.760 to your guns and just be like, I'm doing my work. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:39.360 I'm sorry. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.960 I just that feels very lose lose, where it's like 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:46.920 you don't want me to do something, and then when 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.000 I don't do it, you're then prying for me to 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:49.480 do the thing. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.520 You don't want me to welcome to the party. 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:54.000 How does that make sense? 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.400 It doesn't, woofty. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:00.319 Yeah, so that's what's going on. Just another example of 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.040 how we're different, and I love. 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:02.320 You for it. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:09.520 Yes, Well, I'm really excited for today's guest because we 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:17.079 have a motivational speaker on and his name is Inky Johnson. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:18.959 Do you want to give a little background about him. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:26.320 Yeah. Inky is a guy who's you know, kind of 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:30.360 been His videos have been sent amongst like guy text 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:34.120 chats that I'm in. And he was a football player 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:38.000 at the University of Tennessee in the early mid two 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.760 thousands and on a routine play on the field, he 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:45.760 was going to tackle somebody and he got injured. And 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:48.960 you know, let him tell the medical side of it, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:53.280 but he lost his right arm. He still has his 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:57.600 right arm, but he's paralyzed in his right arm, and 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:01.040 so it's it's his story is so interesting. You know, 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:05.400 he says something saying that he's quoted saying, you know 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.280 that he asked himself at one point He's like, am 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.840 I really failing? Or is God prevailing? And I'm just 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:15.320 so so excited to talk to him and just get 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:19.040 his whole story in his background on what led him 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.360 to the path that he's on. And here in a 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.360 little bit before we have mom, we're going to play 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.160 this three minute snidbit of a of a of a 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.720 speech that he does that I shared with Janna. That's 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:34.600 just it's amazing. And if you're not ready just to 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.719 take on the day after listening to it, then then 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:39.520 you don't have a don't have a heart, don't have 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:41.680 warm blood pumping through your veins because he gets you going. 0:10:42.800 --> 0:11:00.000 So let's take a break and then let's hear it. Okay, 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:05.000 I said, before we get inky on, I got introduced 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:10.200 to him because Mike played this motivational speech that he 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.200 does and it might be a little hard to hear, 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.880 but we really really really want to. I want to 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:17.640 play it for you guys. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.560 Yeah, we'll give you. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.760 It'll give you kind of an idea of how this 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.439 guy rolls. And he's awesome. So take a listen this 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:28.520 miss day, we get. 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.960 Up, we're going to open presence. Somehow my son sees it. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.280 So Dad, let's go out to a little forward, a 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.840 little bike thing. I said, let's go me, So we 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.880 start riding light. He's getting it heavy he's getting it, 0:11:40.280 --> 0:11:42.040 and I look back at my son and hit the ground. 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.320 His helmet cocks up, and so I said, I got 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.080 to do something quick. I said, because if my wife 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.280 beats me to my son, she's gonna make him think 0:11:48.280 --> 0:11:49.000 he got shot. 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:54.320 Twenty five times, right, I said, ain't go. He looked 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:54.600 at me. 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.320 I said, go heavy, and so we get back up 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.600 and we park it, and as we're getting off, everybody 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:01.640 is asked the same question, why did you do that? 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.040 I said, because if we didn't attack opposition and adversity 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:07.080 in that moment. 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.040 It would have paralyzed him for the rest of his life. 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.480 The lesson is, when something doesn't turn out the way 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:13.360 you wanted to turn out, I need you to attack. 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:14.880 If everything that didn't turn. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.400 Out the way that you wanted to turn out, and 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:17.040 I need you to. 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:17.880 Go have me on it. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:19.320 It's never about the competitors. 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.400 It's about what we possess and what we do. 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:25.240 I mean, that's like the fact when he says about 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.720 the like his wife being like that he got shot. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.120 That's why I'd be. 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:32.920 Like, what, Jaz. 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.400 That's why I played it for Janna the first time 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:39.120 when I heard it, because I was like that's exactly 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.240 how you'd be. You'd want to get to Jason and 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.680 feel like he's got shot twenty five times. But I'm 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:46.600 so pumped to talk to this guy in real time. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.360 I mean that right there gets me going. That you know, 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:52.120 that gets my blood pumping. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:58.439 So let's welcome to the show, Inky Johnson, Welcome the 0:12:58.480 --> 0:12:58.960 show man. 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:00.960 It's a pleasure. Thank you guys so much. 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.080 I have the video, or I mean Michael showed me 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.360 the video because was it in your guy's text messages 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.440 that we said, So he has like this guy's text 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:13.240 message and he's like, you have to watch this and 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.160 the part when you talked about like your son getting shot, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.400 you know a million times, I'm like that is so 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:21.240 me with my son, Like I'd have been like, oh 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:26.880 my god, freaking out. I'm like, it's so accurate. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.520 It's I'm sure a lot of moms out there can 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:31.920 totally relate, and a lot of husbands as well, because 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.800 we're all like, absolutely, that's exactly what would happen. 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:36.280 Oh, no doubt. 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:39.319 You know. I'm so inspired by your story man. Like 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.560 I said, we let our audience aroundur listeners kind of 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:43.680 know a little bit about you and something that you say, 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:46.160 your quoted saying even on your website, is am I 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:49.160 really failing? Or is God prevailing? And that's so empowering. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.880 And I'm just curious on when that mindset set in 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.680 for you, like after your accident, you know, going into 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.680 the life you're in today, Like when did that change 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:56.880 for you? 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.640 Absolutely so, I would say it manifested kind of after 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.960 my accident happened at the University of Tennessee, because I 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.560 had been chasing this dream, you know, my whole life, 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:13.360 and you know, I really wanted it to happen for myself. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:15.319 I wanted to happen for my family because I was 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:19.080 coming from this situation too, bet home, fourteen people, a mother, 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.120 working the double ship, and so when the injury happened, 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.880 in a lot of people's eyes, it was tragic, right, 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.600 it was devastating, And to me, it was a big 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.240 lump of disappointment in my life and I had to 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.080 figure out, man, like, what was I going to do 0:14:32.160 --> 0:14:35.440 with this situation? It's piece of adversity, this piece of opposition, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.000 Like what am I going to do with it? 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:37.240 Right? 0:14:37.280 --> 0:14:40.680 Because I firmly believe every experience we have as people, 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.200 like I tell my friends all the time, like, even 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.280 if the experience don't turn out the way you want 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.920 it to, don't waste the experience, right, And I feel 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:48.560 like it's people. 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:50.240 We waste so many experiences. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:52.400 We don't try to extract lessons from it, we don't 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:54.280 try to see the blessing in it. And so when 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.920 my injury happened, the thing that I didn't know was 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:59.680 I wasn't giving up and I wasn't going to waste this. 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.840 And so as I kept pressing forward, things started to 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.400 manifest and I was like, man, maybe I didn't fail, right, 0:15:07.520 --> 0:15:09.480 Maybe it was God's plan all along for me to 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.800 be doing what I'm doing. So am I feeling or 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.600 is God prevailing? And so that's basically based upon when 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.640 you face opposition and you face adversity, when you face 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:20.520 a challenge, just ask the question, right when you step 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:21.800 back and look at the bigger picture. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:23.960 I love that so much and I feel like that's 0:15:23.960 --> 0:15:27.840 how I've always kind of tried to live too, because 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:29.600 you know, there's certain things in my life and I'm like, 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:32.160 why did this happen? You know it doesn't make sense, 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.720 But then you're like, oh, like maybe this is why, 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:37.000 so that you can help people, and you can inspire 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.240 people and you can motivate them, and you know, especially Mike, 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:42.560 with our situation, it's kind of like we didn't want 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.160 what happened in our marriage to happen, but it did, 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.680 and like, how can we how can we help others 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.160 with this? And maybe that was the that was supposed 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.760 to happen all along, as painful as it was and 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.440 as awful as it was, it's like, you know, I mean, 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.400 obviously you I can't imagine how you felt because you 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.320 probably had plans of going to the NFL, and you know, 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.080 you might have felt like you let down people. But really, 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:06.680 I mean, they got it. They have to be so 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.960 proud of what you have turned your life into. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.840 Yeah, And I think like you make a valid point 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.320 because you know, you look at life and you look 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.360 in the grand scheme of it, and you know, people 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.240 go through some crazy stuff, right, And like I'm a 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.480 spiritual guy, you know, to a certain extent, Like I'm 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.520 a believer, and you know, I tell guys all the time, 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.040 I'm like, some stuff that happens, like it's not a. 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.640 Scripture for it, right, Like you can't go go. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:34.480 To Romans eight twenty eight, you know, what I'm saying, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:36.960 it's just a scripture for it, right, you got to 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.240 let it play out. And so for me, when the 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.840 situation happened, like the people around me that had helped 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.200 me get to that point, I didn't want to let 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:48.000 them down. I didn't want to waste the experience, and 0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.200 I didn't want to become a failure because they had 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.840 sacrificed a lot in me, and I think their investment 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.960 in what they saw in me it helped me out 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:58.200 a lot, because they told me from the jump, like, man, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:16:59.960 we don't care if you make it to the NFL. 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:02.280 Like I get that's what you. 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.480 Want, but we don't care about that, Like we just 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:05.880 want you to be a decent human being. 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:07.720 You think we've been stealed. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.000 You know, it's amazing. I feel like until you have kids, too, 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.959 it's it's hard to understand that concept that you just mentioned, 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.199 because you know I did the same thing, and you 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:20.520 know I was fortunate and blessed enough to live five 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:22.320 years of my dream and playing in the NFL. But 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:25.880 I put more of the pressure on myself than anybody else, right, because, 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:27.800 like you said, like your parents and the people that 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.119 love you will love you. No matter what, and then 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.240 we make up this story like if we don't succeed 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.320 or do these these achieve these goals, that we're not 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:39.560 the same person, that we're less than. And so with kids, 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.080 I'm starting to realize, you know, ours are five and two? 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:45.560 How old are your kids? Ain't nine and time? And wow, 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.359 so I feel like, you know, we're starting to at 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.760 least myself, I'm starting to kind of realize that, like 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.760 I don't care if they become the most amazing whatever 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:55.280 it may be. But as long as they're a good 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:58.040 human being and treat each other right and you know, 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.320 and do all that and live by the gold, like 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.520 we're going to be proud. And so as a father 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:03.920 of a nine and ten year old, because those are 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:09.440 they're getting into those impressionable ages, you know, So as 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:13.359 a father, like, how are you instilling the principles that 0:18:13.400 --> 0:18:15.640 you've learned like into them? 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:16.359 Yeah? 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.960 I think you make a great point, like when you 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:23.119 become a parent, the perspective shifts totally. And so my 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.719 girl is ten, my boy is nine eleven months apart, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:30.280 little Irish twis Oh man, they give us a run 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:33.800 for our money too, right, but it's awesome, Like I 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:37.240 read this quote once and it's said, you know, as parents, right, 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:40.479 like we want to sometimes give children the things that 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.520 we never had instead of instilling in children the things 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:44.479 that we never learned. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:48.280 And so with our children, it's always based upon. 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.920 Like I'm not letting them not fill the wind right 0:18:52.000 --> 0:18:53.919 in every situation. And what I mean by that is 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.880