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Speaker 1: the fashions on this show, forget about it. It's she looks,

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Speaker 1: she looks, and she wearing fascinators. I think she's wearing

420
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: some and headpieces, some little small little hat you can

421
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: you can look forward to to at least a couple

422
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: of tiny hats. And she remembered you from when she

423
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 1: interviewed you for the nightly show. Oh shit, I forgot

424
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 1: about that. She said that she remembered you from when

425
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: you guys like had coffee and talked about you years

426
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 1: ago interviewing for the nightly show and like a job

427
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: you didn't get, but she said it wasn't because you

428
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: weren't amazing and she remembers you from that. Wo oh

429
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: my god. Okay, so I remember this was like I

430
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: think after w KML Bell. This was after w KMAL Bell.

431
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: So like I showcase for SNL one summer and then

432
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 1: the next summer I submitted a packet and I got it,

433
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 1: and so like there was like that year where I

434
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 1: was like going out for things all the time. And

435
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: so they did the nightly show. This is why I'm

436
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: a hack and this is why um I'm bad. Um

437
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: they did a nightly show showcame at UCB East and

438
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 1: this was UM did this yeah, yeah, yeah, to be

439
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 1: a correspondent. And I was like, okay, bitch, you gotta

440
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 1: pull out your damn Middle Eastern ass mustache. Jasmine bitch material.

441
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: And you know, I had multiples upon multiples of being

442
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: like salo salom salm, you know what I mean. You

443
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: absolutely have to get the dance. And before you said

444
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: before you went on, you said I booked this. I said,

445
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: intill I book this, and I said, Mercy larry villemore.

446
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: I am not saying he's he's He's comedy is very

447
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: political and um anyway, so I did like all of

448
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: my like capital P persian um material, and I was like,

449
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: they're going to eat this up and guess what bitch

450
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: they did? But was I heard for the job? No,

451
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't think started out on the second season. I

452
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: think she. I think she. I think she got in

453
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: later on. It was a really great experience on and

454
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: and I think I even went in. I didn't. Did

455
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 1: I screen test. I can't remember. I can't remember. I've

456
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: I've blocked out most things from my entire life, especially

457
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: what has to do with my career. I don't know.

458
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: I don't like to go back there, but now I am,

459
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: and you can kind of see it in my head.

460
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: We were talking. We went on a hike. We went

461
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: on a socially distanced type with our friend Billy Domino

462
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: the other day. Um, and then you did very naturally. Yes, Oh,

463
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: I guess I was working. You were working very naturally,

464
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: like college stuff came up and we were just like,

465
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, remember that trip and that trip very

466
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: naturally and then Sudi and I I support this move

467
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: and this instinct with Sudi immediately was like I don't

468
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: want to talk about the past. And always study is

469
00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: so comfortable ending a conversation. I really I love it. Well.

470
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: I think it's because I'm a big compartmentalizer and I

471
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 1: really need to talk about this in therapy because I've

472
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: been thinking about a lot because like, you know, yesterday,

473
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: who were we talking about. Were we talking about palm

474
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: springs or we're talking about somebody that has to do

475
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: with s n L. I can't remember, and I just

476
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: like kind of like shut down and like didn't want

477
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: to talk about it. And I think that I'm like

478
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: such a big compartmentalizer that your world can't collide my

479
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't like talking about like work, which gives me

480
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: the most stress possible. And I also think, you know,

481
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: like working at SNL, you're constantly confronted with the idea

482
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: that you have of that place growing up, the image

483
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: that people have of that place and the people that

484
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: work there, which is like, you know, mostly reverence and

485
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 1: positivity and like people love the work that comes out

486
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: of there, which is great. But you're constantly like kind

487
00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: of grappling with your own experience, and I think that

488
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: that causes me stress. Of course, it's also your job,

489
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And anyone talking about their job,

490
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, it's going to be like

491
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 1: that's work. And when I'm not at work, I prefer

492
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: not to like get into it because there's complicated things

493
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: about it, you know what else I also think it

494
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: is and I think this is how it is about

495
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: like talking about college too and like being nostalgic for

496
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: that time, which is I constantly have this anxiety of

497
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: like I didn't enjoy that enough, or I didn't absorb

498
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: that enough, or I wish that I had made the

499
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: most out of that experience or done it again, or

500
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do it right. And I think that's a

501
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: big thing with the SNL stuff, which is like and

502
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: that person was there and that show was so amazing

503
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. But all I'm thinking about is

504
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: like how stressed I was how stressed I was, or

505
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go to that after party because

506
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: um I was like really bummed out that day, or

507
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: I was exhausted, or like, you know, we were talking

508
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: about Skidmore and I all I could think about is

509
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: like the anxieties that I had at that after party,

510
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: or like that I wanted to go home, or like

511
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: I didn't you know, want I didn't hook up with

512
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: that guy that I want to hook up with or whatever,

513
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: and like what is that? Why? Why why do I

514
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: only focus on that? Well, I don't know what the

515
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: answer is into why we focus on it, but I

516
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: actually do think that there is something to be gleaned

517
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: from that, which is I need to just let things

518
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: go more in the moment, like in the moment of

519
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: things understand later there will come a time when I

520
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: wish I had enjoyed this, So why not enjoy it now?

521
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: That's what I try to feel about. Like whenever I

522
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: am feeling anxious or uncomfortable or feel like challenged by something,

523
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: I just try to remind myself in five years, you

524
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: will be laughing about it, or you won't remember it,

525
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Either one of those two things.

526
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: You'll either laugh about that thing, or you won't remember

527
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: that thing, or it'll be like a negative experience. But

528
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: that's literally the opposite of what I'm saying, you stupid bit. Yeah,

529
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: that's true. That's true because sometimes I think, no, no,

530
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: well bone yard stupid and um And honestly, man, what

531
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: you're saying is true because I look back on the

532
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: darkest days of my career when I was shipping water

533
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: thinking about like the Emmy's. So that was that? Would

534
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: you say that was the most challenging thing you've ever

535
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: think that? That was the first week of my none

536
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: of life, but there was the most stressful career situation.

537
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: Why Well, Okay, basically it was the year that um,

538
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: Colin and Chay hosted the Emmys and I will never

539
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: so then that was the year that they had the

540
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: most diverse nominees that the Emmys had ever had, So um,

541
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: I kind of came into that. I wasn't like at

542
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: first hired to write for that Emmy's because I was

543
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: at Shrill. This is the first season to Shrill, And

544
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: then I came back from Shrill and then I was like, Oh,

545
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: everybody that I know is we're on the Emmy's let

546
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: me be a dumbass and be like, hey, do you

547
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: guys need me to like come and help. Also, like

548
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: fran Glaspie, my writing partner was like writing on it,

549
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, I feel like, why aren't I

550
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: going to go hang out with that girl? And I

551
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, it'll be fun. L O L literally

552
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: l O L E L O H. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,

553
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: we're there. So because this was like the most diverse

554
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: nominate nominate group of nominees that they had ever had,

555
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: we wrote this like ironic like fun song for Kate

556
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: and Keenan called We Solved It, which was like we

557
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: solved diversity, which was like l O L. Of course

558
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: we didn't, ha ha ha. You know, we went and

559
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: kaepernaked it like we didn't solve it. And also like

560
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: cut to like all of the nominees like all the

561
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: winners being white true, and I was like sitting in

562
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: the writer's room and like I like remember turning to

563
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: sam J and me being like what happens if they're

564
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: all white and her being like, Suti, they are going

565
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: to be all white. This is like how it happens.

566
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: And it was like such a moment of like, oh

567
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: my god, like she wasn't fooled for one second. And

568
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: my like dumb liberal pant suit nation asked, was like

569
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: it's happening. She was like, no, bitch, absolutely not. So

570
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: in like truestinal fashion, you know, Lauren was producing the

571
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: Emmys and he wanted like every celebrity under the sun

572
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: to be in this opening number. And I was like, great,

573
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be a pre tape, right, and I

574
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: like remember the day, and like Fran was like, no,

575
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: it should be live. And Frans like it should be live,

576
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: and I was I was like, or it could be

577
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: a pre tape because we had like watched these other

578
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: like opening numbers and like like Colbert had done like

579
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: a great opening number that was had La La Land

580
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: been out at that time, Yeah, it could have referenced

581
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Lalla Land the beginning of that yes, m yeah yeah

582
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: La La Land. What I'm saying like, I'm saying like

583
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: it could have referenced like that number in the beginning. Alright,

584
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: keep going with your stupid story and and and Fran

585
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: was like it should be live, and everybody was like, yeah,

586
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: it's SNL We're used to it being live. This will

587
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: be like something that we bring you like no, and

588
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: so then cut you like the worst week of my life. Okay.

589
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: So first of all, the stage that they had they

590
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: had these like big screens and it was like all

591
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: of these different like ten like separated LT screens that

592
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: would open in this like cool accordion way and clothes

593
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: and oh my god. The guys who produced um the

594
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: show were these this British production company called Done and

595
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: Dusted who were all like, honey, absolutely, and they like

596
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: produce everything. I think they produced like the Oscars, the Tony's,

597
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: like Dancing at the Stars, like they're like huge, the Oscars,

598
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: the Tonys and everything and dancing with the stop Everything's

599
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: time Banks. We'll talk about that later. So we're talking

600
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: with Jenna Dusty guys about these about like the choreography

601
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: and like what's going to happen, and they're like, yeah,

602
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: they won't. They won't be able to make that entrance.

603
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: They won't be able to because see the screens they

604
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: take um about thirty seconds to open and close. And

605
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: we're like okay, and then we're like well, then John

606
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: Legend comes out on the piano and they're like no,

607
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: he can't come out on the piano. Because because of

608
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: the screens. And I was like, okay, so you guys

609
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: coming down from like a thing from the ceiling, well

610
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 1: that they could do. They could carring Andy Samberg down,

611
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: like you know, hundred feet from the ceiling. He's also

612
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 1: like hanging out up there and like the tea is

613
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: that we almost cut him and he was like, no,

614
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: don't you dare fucking cut me, because I've been up

615
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: in the rafters of rehearsals plummeting into my death like

616
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: five different times, like don't make all in vain? Yeah exactly.

617
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: It was like basically, are you fucking kidding me? But

618
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: that was like the chaos we were like and then

619
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: maybe we cut Andy and like you know this, the

620
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: British director was kept telling us that we had to

621
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: cut two minutes and he was like, I'm not being funny, girls,

622
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not being funny. But like anyway, I'm not being funny.

623
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: I'm not being funny. He was like, you need to

624
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: cut two minutes and which means you have which means

625
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: you have to essentially cut major celebrity out of the

626
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: number exactly, and like well, also, the funny thing was

627
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: that like when they were like you need to cut

628
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: two minutes. Fran and I have like you know, sn

629
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: l PTSD and people come up to us all the

630
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: time and say that we have to do it, and

631
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: we nod our heads and we say okay, but we're

632
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: gonna but it's hell. I mean it's hell. But we

633
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: were like okay, yeah, and the director took that as like,

634
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 1: these girls aren't listening to me, and because we were

635
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: so calm, and we were like okay, yeah, and he

636
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not being funny, and we were like no,

637
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't yelling at us. He was being

638
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: like he was at work and he was trying to

639
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: direct was like the day before the Emmies, you know

640
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. And he was like he didn't understand

641
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: like that we had understood it, you know what I mean.

642
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm not being funny, and we

643
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: were like yeah, no, we're going to do it. And

644
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: they just like didn't clock that, like you were used

645
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: to that level of pressure because they felt like these

646
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: are two young girls, like they might not understand the

647
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: gravity of what I'm saying. God is gender, I mean,

648
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: the girls is I'm not being funny girls, I mean,

649
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: come on, come on, but whatever, what are you gonna do?

650
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: So ultimately, what was what was it like rehearsing that

651
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: number with all those celebrities? We couldn't make entrances and

652
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 1: exits on this stage and we had like a million

653
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: celebrities that we're honestly like so fucking down, Like Kristen

654
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: Bell was there, Ricky Martin was there, I mean everybody

655
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: was really I think Rue Rue was there, everybody. I

656
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: think kind of John Legend, everybody kind of like absorbed,

657
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: especially like the morning of the Emmys, kind of absorbed

658
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: what is happening And we're like all pros and we're like, Okay,

659
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna make this work. But it was just like

660
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: one of those things that wasn't working until the very end,

661
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: and we really almost cut it the whole, the whole number,

662
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: the whole number, which would have felt awful, which would

663
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: have felt horrible. And so the reason why I was

664
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: like kind of the worst week in my life was

665
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: that every single morning I was waking up and having

666
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: to go to these rehearsals, that everything was changing at

667
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: the SNL. You know, we changed things all the time,

668
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: and our crew can handle it, and our wardrobe department

669
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: and everybody is just like, yep, this is how things work.

670
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: But you know, at a major award show, everything is

671
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: locked and loaded way wait wait wait wait before and

672
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: we were working kind of SNL style at a place

673
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: that wasn't I didn't know that that was going to

674
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: be the deal. The flexibility wasn't built in, and the

675
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: cruise and the departments were not people that you were

676
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: familiar with. Yeah, and they all did an incredible job,

677
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: but it was all like a lot of like, well,

678
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: we can't what are you talking about. It's two days

679
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: before the fucking Emmy's We can't fucking change that. Um.

680
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: So it was a lot of changes, a lot of changes,

681
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: a lot of changes and um yeah, like the night

682
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: before we had done a run through and um it

683
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 1: was so it just like didn't work. It just wasn't working.

684
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: It just like wasn't working as a piece, Like it

685
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: wasn't funny or wasn't didn't really probably never funny, but

686
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: the entrances and the exits weren't working. The timing wasn't working.

687
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: Certain people's parts weren't um um quite fleshed out. Or

688
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: it was felt sweaty, That's what I would say. It

689
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 1: felt sweaty. And when you say sweaty to find that

690
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: for the for the late people, it's overwrought and makes

691
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: you nervous because it doesn't quite click, and the audience

692
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: is nervous for you and the performers because they know

693
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: it's which is the number one thing you don't want

694
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: just for the audience at home or in the audience

695
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: watching to feel nervous while they're watching something happen. Yeah, totally. Um.

696
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: And so the night before it was like do we

697
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: cut it? Do we not cut it? They really didn't

698
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: want to cut it because they wanted Chay and Jost

699
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: to come out and be able to do their monologue

700
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: with the audience already warmed up, and also it was

701
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: hosted by Changes. But something that they were really into

702
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: was like showcasing Keenan and Kate, who were both nominated

703
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: and like they were starting off the show, and I

704
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: think like in theory, it was a really great idea

705
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: to do this musical number at the top, and um,

706
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: Jos took the script from me, which had like a

707
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: million rewrites on it, and went through it and cut

708
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: things down and move things and you know, cut beats

709
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: and everything. And I really was sitting there talking to him,

710
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: being like, you can't change that. You can't change that

711
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: because that person has rehearsed this number and tomorrow is

712
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: the Emmy's And he was like, if this piece is

713
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: going to survive, this is what needs to be happened. This,

714
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: this is what needs to be happening. This is what

715
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: needs to happen. And I was freaking out, and the

716
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: are incredible head of Snel costumes. He sat down and

717
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: he could see how nervous I was, and he turned

718
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: to me and he said, like, you know about all

719
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: these like celebrities and amazing performers that were about to perform,

720
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: and he said to me, they're all pros and they're

721
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: not going to funk it up on TV. It's their

722
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: job to do it, Tom said Tom, And not for nothing,

723
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: but you got talking about pros, like anyone who even

724
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: volunteers to do the number is going to be someone

725
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: like Kristen Bell, you know what I mean, who has

726
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: like a theater background and is a professional and is

727
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: ultimately a machine or Titus Burgess. Right, And then it

728
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: was like and it was a fucking miracle because we

729
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: did all these changes. Then the morning of everybody comes

730
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: for the rehearsal, and they think that they're just going

731
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: to be doing what they did, you know two days before.

732
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: Almost everything is different, almost everything, and everybody was like okay, okay, yeah, okay,

733
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: got it. And then we ran through it. It went great.

734
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: It suddenly worked, like you're looking at it and you're

735
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: just like, oh yeah, and then this person comes in

736
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: and then this point is made, and then Andy comes

737
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: in and it all just like something's happening. Something's happening.

738
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: The dancer has come out. It all worked and like everybody,

739
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, all of the producers, everybody was like looking

740
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: at us like it worked. It worked, And in that

741
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: moment I realized that like, oh my god, I might

742
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: like actually have if this didn't I had the thought

743
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: of like if this hadn't worked, I might like be

744
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: fired like period, Like this was like such a like

745
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: big undertaking that really wasn't working. My ass was truly

746
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: truly saved. Um one of each dancers is such a

747
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: funny the one of each answer and then then everyone

748
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: comes out and it's like all is representing pereographed by

749
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Mandy Moore. God bless Mandy Moore, who was the Mandy

750
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: Moore the Mandy Moore, who absolutely absolutely took every single

751
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: change and was like, Okay, um, what's your I mean,

752
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: we're sort of talking about it now, but like you

753
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: look back on it now and you're like, Okay, a

754
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: very challenging week of my life and career, but I've

755
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: learned something like what's like, I do have this healthy

756
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: distance from it now two years later. I think that

757
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: my takeaway from it is that that was the most

758
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: pressure that I ever felt, and it was okay in

759
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: the end, and I survived, yes, but like shooting water,

760
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: panic attacks, not sleeping like the whole sheb Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

761
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: And I think I got so wasted that night. Yeah,

762
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: I would imagine absolutely, and I was thank god it

763
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: was like the first number and they did it, and

764
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: then afterwards I was just like I was shaking. And

765
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: then you're also nominated as a as probably a writer,

766
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: right and you lose? Oh yeah, I already knew. Did

767
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: you know who was going to win the awards? Do

768
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: you know that? I think those are all sealed. I

769
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: don't think anybody knows except for basically than the presenters

770
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: because they have they hire like independent Okay, but you

771
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: know what, even with these shows I never I never

772
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: know like exactly how real they are. Sure, Like with

773
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: the Neil Patrick Harrison at all, speaking of magicians, um

774
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: it's twenty minutes ago, but um yeah, that seems like

775
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: I was very confused. But and see that's the thing

776
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: with magicians is that I'm like, I don't know what's

777
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: real and we're talking about it like four years later. Wait,

778
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: what do you mean? The Neil Patrick Harrison when held

779
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: to the Oscars and he was like, in that briefcase

780
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: over there on stage left, like that's where like the

781
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: best picture envelope is, and I'll make it. I don't

782
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: remember what the funk it was, but I was just like,

783
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: I like, what is this for? Well? I always just wonder,

784
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: like because the Emmys, Oscar's, Tony's Grammys, etcetera. They are

785
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: all ultimately television shows, which you probably never understand more

786
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: than when you actually write for it and are producing

787
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: it and I like behind the scenes. So for me,

788
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: it's like it's not that I questioned the validity of

789
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: who wins are like who gets nominated or what happens

790
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: on the show, but I also know that like it

791
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: does have to adapt and be exciting for people to

792
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 1: like it at home and watch it. So I wonder

793
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: if there's ever any sort of stuff going on with

794
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: like who wins to make it more exciting. But then

795
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: I realized that can't possibly be true, because sometimes you

796
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: do see someone win, like and this is not knocking her,

797
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: but like Julia Garner from Ozark wins and Emmy and

798
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: everyone's like who, But if you watch the show, you

799
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 1: would know who that was. That everybody from Godless one yeah, yeah, yeah,

800
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: nobody had seen Yeah, Like, it's not every year is

801
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: a year where it's like everyone watched um Friends and

802
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: the whole cast of Friends one, you know what I mean.

803
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: It's it's never like or like there's a narrative, like

804
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, it was the most diverse nominations that we've

805
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: ever had, and that resulted in the most diverse winners ever.

806
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: Like it's not always linear like that, and that makes

807
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 1: me feel like, oh, it must be them going by

808
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: the book and like the person who gets the most

809
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: votes wins. But in terms of like you're talking about,

810
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: like the producibility of the award shows, it's like it's

811
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: like with that year at the means, it's like it

812
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: was the most diverse nominees, ever, and then it ironically

813
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: ended up being the whitest wins. It's ironic, but it's

814
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: also that's this is what Sam was saying, which is

815
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: like the voting body is the voting body, and it's

816
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: still Hollywood and like kind of what I realized was

817
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: that like, in that moment, even though the whole we

818
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 1: solved it thing was like very like ironic and like

819
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,280
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek and like we weren't being serious about

820
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: that at all. But what I realized, what I learned

821
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: in that moment um was that like probably all of

822
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: the non white people in that audience, we're like, yeah,

823
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: I was nominated, but I'm not gonna win. Yeah, you know,

824
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: and even if they thought they were gonna win, Like

825
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: I remember that being a particularly being a year where

826
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,479
Speaker 1: it was like there were a lot of deserving people

827
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: of color that were nominated and that did not win.

828
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Like and that's what's frustrating again and again, is like

829
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: and I say again and again, but the facts of

830
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: the matter is like in recent years there have been

831
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: a lot of amazing people of color that have won

832
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: and deservedly, so like, for example, like I was so

833
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: happy when Tandy Newton won because I thought that she

834
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: deserved it for the first year, and then she won

835
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: for the second year, and like, you know, Uzo Aduba

836
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: has two Emmys, and like we saw Viola Davis get

837
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: up there and win, and like there's so many. The

838
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: only person that I feel like has constantly gotten the

839
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: shaft year in and year out is Sandra Like what

840
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: the funk is going on the weekend? And well, keen

841
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: In not winning that year? I mean, and what was

842
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: it was? Henry Winkler, right, which is like the voting body.

843
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: It's like old white guys being like, we're not dead yet.

844
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: We love this, you know, television legend, but also worry

845
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: he And that's the thing about like, you know, Claire

846
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: floy Is, It's like, yes, she won because she deserved

847
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: to win, but there were also women in that category

848
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: who also deserved to win. So it's but it's the

849
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: reason why you have Kamensky method making it pass first,

850
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: that is, the Globes is like a whole different thing

851
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: because it's like six people, you know, they're from different countries.

852
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: It's literally sucks up. It's literally it's literally like older

853
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 1: white male foreign d method even makes it to the Emmys.

854
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: But I do want to say that the for every

855
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: last year, for example, for every kind of multiple awards

856
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: um rapup of like let's say when they yes, which

857
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: was such a moment last year. I have and I'm

858
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: not saying I'm not knocking the winds that you have

859
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: a fleaback where it's like all these like white people,

860
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: it's like Phoebean women women white women, Um, which is

861
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: I mean like fleaback like deserved a lot of those awards,

862
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 1: but it's like it's there's never I don't know, I

863
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: don't ever envision a year maybe at any awards show

864
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: where it's like, um, I think it's not balanced out

865
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: by like something like but as people are voting, it's

866
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: not going to be good, you know what I mean. No, igree,

867
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: I think I think it does defend. I think it

868
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: does depend on the voting body. And I think that

869
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: people that are artistic, if in a diverse voting body,

870
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: which is where it lives and dies, will vote for

871
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: the best art. Like I think that like if we

872
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: can get like yeah, the diverse voting, which I think

873
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: they do try to do every year. I mean you

874
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: see like the Academy announces like the new members that

875
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: they're inviting and it is always like majority people of

876
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: color as of the past few years. Like it seems

877
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: like they really want to make this not a thing

878
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: like where every year they're humiliated because yet again they

879
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: can't they can't do this correctly. But I think that

880
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: if MICHAELA. Coel was not was eligible this year, I

881
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: may destroy You would get tons of nominations and it

882
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: would do just as well as Fleabeg did last year

883
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: in the Comedy in the Comedy series. And it has

884
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: nothing to do with really like Capital R Race period.

885
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: It has to do with the fact that she released

886
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: the art of the comedic art that said a new

887
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: thing that was performed, written for a new perspective and

888
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: was the best and had people talking when no one

889
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: was in the beginnings too, is that it's like bottom up,

890
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: you know what you mean, and it's like it all

891
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: starts from like the ground, which is like if if

892
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: the independent films in the ways that people get to

893
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: that Emmy nominated, OSCAR nominated level are not also are

894
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: are if if the gates to those things are closed

895
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: for people you know who aren't, then the studios have

896
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,240
Speaker 1: to say we're gonna put for your consideration, time, effort,

897
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: and money into these projects as well that are that

898
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: it's not just are really commercially successful all white, Downton

899
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: Abbey asked ship, you know what I mean, like and

900
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: and Downton Abbey was great, But I'm just saying, like,

901
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, it has to be equal. And that's where

902
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: the campaign gets weird for me, Like I wish it

903
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: wasn't even a thing. I wish it wasn't a political thing.

904
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: It's like, if we're gonna have an Awards show and

905
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: it be authentic, then like, let's just do this completely

906
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: even and out. But I also understand the needs of

907
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: campaign and like why people do it. But in terms

908
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: of voting bodies, like I think this is not totally

909
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: along but with Grammys. With the Grammys, it's like, oh,

910
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: Beyonce lost to beck annidel Um, Kendrick Lamar lost to

911
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. It's like there's these there. I don't know.

912
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: It's like these voting bodies are going to be these

913
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: hegemonic things that live on to spite all these social changes. Well,

914
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: there's still institutions, and I think it's important to do

915
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: the work to dismantle these institutions. But I also feel

916
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: like we need to place less value in these structures

917
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: of power, and that to me feels like, Honey, the

918
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: one the solution. I will fix everything, That's what I'm saying.

919
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: And yet you also like care and like want to

920
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: win if you get nominated, won't will be bad if

921
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: you don't get if I don't get nominated, care for

922
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: what He's gonna say that he doesn't care, but he's

923
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: going to have about three days where he likes rebound

924
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: from you. Definitely will because you guys get nominated every year. Yeah, yeah,

925
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: but it's also maybe it's comforting to know that, like, well,

926
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: we know almost know what the result is, like you'll

927
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: get nominated and probably lose because they can't get over

928
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: John Oliver, Honey, I am happy to dress up and

929
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: eat a Wolfgang Puck little pudding. If after what are

930
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: they going to do this year? We don't know. I

931
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: don't generally have it, but they know they're going to

932
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: have it. And Jimmy Kimmel is like the host, and

933
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: they're going to try to not do it over zoom

934
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: like they're going to do something with it. That's what

935
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: Robin was saying. Robin was saying that she thought they

936
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: were going to do something. Um, we'll see. Okay, we

937
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: have to let's see a quick break and we'll come back. Okay,

938
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 1: we're back. We have to have to talk about summer

939
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: of kunt This is ku three nt year. Many will

940
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: say it's a lost summer, and perhaps it is, but

941
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: we are student and I still have a studio. They've

942
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: been talking, we still have mission driven things to work

943
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: towards the summer. I think we were talking. Let me over,

944
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: do you We have movies we want to watch, and

945
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: we have things we want to develop. That's the only

946
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: thing we've been watching is the Disney Magic. Oh, Disney

947
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: Fairytale Weddings gonna be the most amazing that I have

948
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 1: basedly been enjoying. Disney Weddings with these two over while

949
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: they've been here. Well, you have to say Disney Fairytale

950
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Weddings because it is a fairy tale. Disney Fairytale Weddings

951
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: on Hulu. Plus it made the list and it's what

952
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: we really have been enjoying together. And now it really

953
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: is what I'll put on when I'm when I'm in

954
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: my excuse me, in your trailer and when I no,

955
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: not my trailer and when I'm here at home. That's

956
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 1: why I put it every narrative I love, which is

957
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: theme park wedding. And then there's a special series that

958
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: is Holiday, so then you get the Christmas element and

959
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: I'm I mean it's so you ultimately are rooting for

960
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: them every step of the way, are you? No? Not

961
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: at absolutely not. They always have a hot, non white

962
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: couple that was clearly cast that are like smoke shows.

963
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 1: And then the other couple and this is you big witnies,

964
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 1: dud lipless whites with no lips, always something going on

965
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: with the teeth, and also like you and this is

966
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 1: you know. I don't mean to be disparaging of this,

967
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: but it's part of like the nastiness of Disney, which

968
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: is that middle class people put all of their money

969
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: into Do you think if they're on the show, they're

970
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: paying for it? Think? I think that they applied and

971
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: they probably got it, and Disney was like, will pay

972
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 1: for your whole thing because you're on the show free

973
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: though I really don't. None of these couples seemed to

974
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: me like couples that could afford this, but they But

975
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: that is the demographic of the people that are that

976
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: are doing Disney wedding. You think that the demographic of

977
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: people that go out and get married at Disney are

978
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: people who would save up and pay well beyond their

979
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 1: means to get married in Disney. And that's what they

980
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: do for the vacations. That's what they're I mean, they're

981
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: saving up for the American Yeah, it really is. Disney

982
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 1: Weddings is the American to get married at two a

983
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: m in front of Cinderella's castle is the American dream.

984
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: Especially guest Olivia Newton John and Frizzy Barrel curls because

985
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,000
Speaker 1: your hair and makeup was done in nine PM. It's

986
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 1: the new distortion. It's the new prism through which the

987
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: American dream is refracted. What's been your favorite episode of

988
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: Disney Very Tail Wedding. I liked the first one, I believe,

989
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: where it was the interracial couple, the Asian man and

990
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: the that was and it was revealed that it was

991
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: his dream to get married in Disney. So and she

992
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: was so supportive the entire time and got very emotional

993
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: about like how much she loves him, and it's a beautiful,

994
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: beautiful story. They loved Hockey. I also love it when

995
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: like a couple's entire love and like foundation of their

996
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: lives is based on like hockey or like you know,

997
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: that's like a big thing or Disney in and of itself.

998
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: But that made them more likable to me, which is

999
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: that there. It wasn't their singular and Disney was not.

1000
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: They're only in No, they also liked hockey. And then

1001
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: they brought the Stanley Cup to the reception. Yeah, they

1002
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 1: were freaking. It's like if they if I would have,

1003
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: if they had, if they had an oscar, if they

1004
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: had like Betty Davis's oscar on your wedding cake, I

1005
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: would not if let me say this right now and

1006
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: be very Julia Roberts's acar, No shut up. If I

1007
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: let me be very clear, If I ran out to

1008
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: the reception at my wedding and everyone that I knew

1009
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: and love was standing around Julia Roberts's oscar waiting for

1010
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: my reaction, I would be mortified. What do you mean?

1011
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: You would like? I My jaw wouldn't drop, and I'd

1012
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, this is my dream. At

1013
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: least laugh I would ass off because but ultimately I

1014
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: would laugh my off because I am such a joke.

1015
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: If you all thought, you know, what Matt would really

1016
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 1: love on the biggest day of his life to run

1017
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: out and see Julia Roberts's Oscar rented sitting in the

1018
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: middle of the I would be literally, what prop do

1019
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: each of you guys want back to the future. Um,

1020
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: I want um come back to me, come back to me.

1021
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: I want to get married at Barbra Streisen's house. And

1022
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: that's not a problem. You should get married in the

1023
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: mall downstairs, which is real, I've heard, I've had it confirmed. No,

1024
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's known real. It's what what do you

1025
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: do when you own them all? Like so basically if

1026
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 1: you have a ma all underneath stuff. Well, it's not

1027
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: a mall per se, it's a it's actually very Disney

1028
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: because it's very turn of the century, kind of like, um,

1029
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds. It's a Victorian kind of walk about.

1030
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: And there's a place for her dolls, and there's a

1031
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: place for her costumes that she's kept a lot of

1032
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: period costumes. There's an old fashioned andy store. It's kind

1033
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: of like, um, a theme park more than it is

1034
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: like the Americana. Well okay, so but is it staffed.

1035
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying it has to be. It's been staffed and

1036
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: it's been maintained. There's an entire plate about like the

1037
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 1: guy who Um, I forgot what it's called, but Michael

1038
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: Ury was in it, and he is that that that's

1039
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: the play that is based on are you saying things

1040
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: that are wrong? I'm always saying things that are wrong.

1041
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: But but I guess my question is like does she

1042
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 1: call and advance like to it? That's what I'm thinking

1043
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: it is. And it's not like they're just sitting there

1044
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: the whole day. No, they can't possibly be. Remember in UM,

1045
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: I believe it was very rich where he went down

1046
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: and there was a McDonald's and it was like a

1047
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: huge roller coaster and it was like he owned it all.

1048
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: And I was like, so this is like a bustling McDonald's,

1049
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 1: and where to believe that they're all working at a

1050
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: McDonald home. By the way, I want McDonald's so bad

1051
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: right now? Oh my god, how bad do you have

1052
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: McDonald's now that I said it? Zero point zero zero?

1053
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: Usually I want McDonald's so bad I've fucking going on.

1054
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: I want it so bad I haven't eaten it. Every

1055
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: time I eat a McNugget, I'm like, this is just chicken. Paste.

1056
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: But that's because you're eating the McNuggets, bitch. I've always

1057
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: been the McNugget burgers. You need eat that, the most

1058
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 1: amazing burgers, chicken fingers all the way, the most amazing burger.

1059
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: If you're a chicken finger bitch, pop off in the

1060
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: comment I have a chicken finger absolute bitch, But that

1061
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that I can enjoy the most amazing burger

1062
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: from McDonald Although I love chicken fingers, but I judge

1063
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: other people that love chicken fingers. Yeah, study uses chicken

1064
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: fingers as senect to key for like trashiness of course classes.

1065
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: Um well, I don't like picky eaters. No, But she'll

1066
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: go like, she'll go like, I can't marry. We were

1067
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: talking about Indian matchmaking, I think, and somehow I'd let

1068
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: into like the types of partners we want, and she

1069
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 1: was like, you know, I can't date. I can't marry,

1070
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: Like no chicken finger eating dude. It was it was

1071
01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 1: that I was like going, I like met, like went

1072
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: on a socially distant state with a guy who was like,

1073
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: I love Budweiser. I was like, okay, is this classes

1074
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: to me to be like so unattracted to this person

1075
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: for liking Budweiser. But it's like I can't be with

1076
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 1: no chicken finger picky eater. Ass bit like chicken fingers

1077
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: does not mean they're picky eaters. I'll eat everything fingers

1078
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 1: with no sauce, though, with a piste beer like Budweiser,

1079
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: it's not beer, I don't think so, Honey, Anheuser Busch queen.

1080
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: Look yall in Fort Green. You can't be drinking Budweiser. Sir?

1081
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: What kind of beer are they to drink? Literally anything? Yes?

1082
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: All day? I a founders, honey. Well, know what I'm

1083
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: saying is that if you like Budweiser, that's fine. But

1084
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: if you have tasted other beers beside Budweiser and have said, no,

1085
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: I actually prefer the watery piss, then there's a taste

1086
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: level there that you are lacking. Some people like what

1087
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 1: they are used to. People like to drink a lot,

1088
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: and so they have, you know, things like bud light things.

1089
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: I want somebody as my partner, I get it. Who

1090
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: is going to expand their horizons? Audacious? You want an

1091
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: audacious drinker? Yes, I want somebody who's an audacious drinker

1092
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:44,360
Speaker 1: and at least at least orders a fucking Coroni got.

1093
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: There was a time where I think back in college,

1094
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: like when I was first we were talking about college.

1095
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: Sorry sorry, bit, there was a time when I had

1096
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: discovered Kraft beer and I thought it was like, this

1097
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: is the coolest thing ever, like like being like you know,

1098
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: like able to draw was like the peak of That's

1099
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: when the craft beer was. Like, remember I worked at

1100
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: beer craft. I do you you are trashed through and through? Why?

1101
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Because I worked in a Parkslo beer craft store craft

1102
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 1: beer store anyway, So what I'm saying is there was

1103
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: a time when I went to college and like I

1104
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: was able to drink, and I started to really like

1105
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: craft beer because I didn't know that it could be that. Yeah,

1106
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 1: I had only ever grown up around my dad drinking

1107
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: cords light all the time. And then you're like it

1108
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: can taste like pumpkin and I was like, oh, pumpkin beers,

1109
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: you know, is my ship? I love pumpkin beer. Stick

1110
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 1: over the eight where they would get cinnamon sugar ram.

1111
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: Which is why am I popping off on people? Like

1112
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: when I'm like a cinnamon sugar rim, It's fine. The

1113
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: judgment level has to get way down, so basically I

1114
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: went I went back home for like a family thing,

1115
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: and I remember like my aunt's friend that was there.

1116
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: I was talking about beer with her, and she like

1117
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: exclusively only drank Chores Light. And I said to her, like,

1118
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: I love craft beer, like I love this, and like

1119
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: I love have you ever tried, like, um, like this

1120
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 1: type of beer, this type of beer? And she looked

1121
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: at me like it was like a political thing and

1122
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: she was like and she was like, I don't know.

1123
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: I just like to drink this because I can drink

1124
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: a lot of it, and like walked away, and I

1125
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: was just like, okay, So like culturally it is a

1126
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: different thing, Like that's not my partner. Person is not

1127
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 1: my partner. There's a whole Gia Talentino I see in

1128
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: this where she talks about sweet green being like the

1129
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: perfect food for millennials or for this like dissociative time

1130
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: in the world where it's like for for that for

1131
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: your aunt, she can drink a lot of it, and

1132
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 1: that's why she likes Scores Light. That's the reason why

1133
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: are you cold? Is that why you're doing that? With

1134
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit. When I when I

1135
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: worked at beer Craft, um, it was like this craft

1136
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: beer store in Park Slope and you could taste the

1137
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: beers before you got like like a Costco. Yeah exactly,

1138
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: we tasted beers before we got it, and like it

1139
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: was awful of these like um functioning alcoholic dad's in

1140
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 1: Park Slope who would like you know it was it

1141
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: was fine that they were drinking a lot of this

1142
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: beer because it was crafty beer. It was like very clear,

1143
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: like that that was the deal. Um, like getting drunk

1144
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: on a Sunday with the baby, God bless. I mean,

1145
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: we all should be able to do that. I mean,

1146
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: we are getting drunk on a Sunday, come on picnic tables,

1147
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? But they would be like, oh,

1148
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: what's that one? And I would just lie, I would

1149
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: just make shut up and I'd be like that one's happy.

1150
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: And then they would be like drinking. They're like hoppy,

1151
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well it's it's a cask barrel, and

1152
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: they like okay, no, no, no. We have to talk

1153
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: about the the performance of Sudi when she was working

1154
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: at Beercraft. I went in there once and she was

1155
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: truly wearing like at least two layers of flannels and

1156
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 1: a baseball she was someone else like that. It's so

1157
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: funny to see her, like I think she has like

1158
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: a refined tation. I saw her when she was like

1159
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: covered in flannel on flannel on flannel, like mopping up.

1160
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: And I used to wear your shirts. I used to

1161
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: wear your flannel shirts energy though, thank you for saying. Um.

1162
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: The reason why I was wearing this was like right

1163
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: after I got like fired from being a not fired.

1164
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: Camal Bello was a p a there at his show

1165
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: and it was canceled, and so um, I was so

1166
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: so poored. I got a job at beer Craft, and

1167
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 1: I would drink the only way that we could function

1168
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: because you had to like mop down all the beer

1169
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the night. And the only way

1170
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: that we could function is if we were like pretty

1171
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: drunk at that point to like hot mop like sticky

1172
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 1: beer off of every surface in this place. And so

1173
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 1: also you were encouraged like the barrel the barrels like

1174
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: changed every day casks. I forget what the words the cats,

1175
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: there's a whole different thing. So you would have to

1176
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: show up and like drink the new beers so you

1177
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: could tell people about that, and everybody was just like

1178
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 1: functionally buzzed the entire time, and I gained about thirty pounds,

1179
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: so I was only wearing like jeans and a flannel

1180
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 1: for good like seven or eight months. We were like

1181
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: beer friends because at that time I was I was

1182
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: waiting tables at Ulysses in the Financial District, which was

1183
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: like an Irish pub slash like really big beer bar,

1184
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: and there was like different beers on tap at any

1185
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: different time, and it was just like or not that much,

1186
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: but there was a ton and I remember my favorite

1187
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: day would be like I think it was Tuesdays or Thursdays,

1188
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 1: the like reps from the company would come in and

1189
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: that we would try everything we were getting and it

1190
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: was just like I also used to drink at that

1191
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 1: job so much. If you were in the service industry,

1192
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 1: you're drinking where you're high. I mean, that's like there

1193
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: was a there was a time there was like I

1194
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: think it's six to eight month period where I was

1195
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 1: so high at work. Every day you guys would talk

1196
01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: about I would I would come and smoke with you

1197
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: guys in that period and you guys would talk about

1198
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 1: going to work Stone And this was right after we

1199
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: went to um Chapel Hill North Carolina to go perform

1200
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: comedy with our sketch group. And then Study drove us

1201
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: back in her van and we were talking about and

1202
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: Tessa Scara smoked us out and it was the craziest

1203
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: we'd have ever smoked. And Study was driving and she

1204
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 1: was talking about the like the band, yes and stuff.

1205
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: You weren't driving, you know, you were sober and driving,

1206
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: we must say, But I was. I went on a greyhound,

1207
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: you guys hot box that van. Yes, Oh, I'm sorry.

1208
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: You did get so weird because you know what, I

1209
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: was so stoned and I kept saying, I'm experiencing reality

1210
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: in three differently. You did keep saying that, and then

1211
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,520
Speaker 1: you kept that somebody should get that high and then

1212
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: go on a greyhound from Wilmington's Della experiencing three different realities.

1213
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: Is so we get back in on the screen smoking,

1214
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 1: We get back on this. We get back in on

1215
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 1: this greyhound. The driver was insane by the time we

1216
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: pull into the port authority. One of the passengers had

1217
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: called him out and said, you're driving sucked, and then

1218
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 1: he slammed the brake and was like, who said that?

1219
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: And it was I was too stoned for it. I

1220
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,639
Speaker 1: go to sleep. I wake up the next day still stoned,

1221
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,080
Speaker 1: going to work and was freaked. And then literally weeks later,

1222
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,200
Speaker 1: you guys were like, yeah, I go and I go

1223
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: in the work stone all the time. I was like,

1224
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,560
Speaker 1: how the first couple of times was not great, but

1225
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: then you do get used to especially because you're waiting tables.

1226
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: It's you're not using your brains, which Study told me

1227
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 1: a million times. I'll never forget the microaggression that was

1228
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 1: I I used to wait tables for a decade and

1229
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 1: then Study was like, I don't know, I just feel

1230
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: like I'm not using my brain and not putting my

1231
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: roots down in a career. And I was just like,

1232
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not. I can't help it. Okay, I'm

1233
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,879
Speaker 1: always thinking in that way. Okay. It was so aggressive

1234
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: towards me. Let's quickly quickly try to, like, uh, set

1235
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: an intention for our summers of count this year. It's

1236
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: it's not a lossome tradition for I'll start. I want

1237
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: I was talking to Study about this. I want um.

1238
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,440
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be a summer of productivity.

1239
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: I want this to be a summer of coming into

1240
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,680
Speaker 1: my own and knowing what I want out of relationships.

1241
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:20,599
Speaker 1: I was talking to studio. I was like, I can't believe.

1242
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm still like dealing with the same

1243
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: dating bullshit, which I know, like does not change with

1244
01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: your circumstances necessarily, but I'm like, I have to change

1245
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: the circumstances of my mindset and the dating sort of

1246
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: lay of the land and all that. Well, because you

1247
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 1: were like, well, I was saying to you that you

1248
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: need to break your pattern, and I'm also talking to

1249
01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: myself in that same way, which is I need to

1250
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: break my pattern. I need to break my pat What

1251
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: are the patterns? My pattern is uh kind of second guessing.

1252
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: As soon as it starts to the germ starts to grow,

1253
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: even a little bit of of intimacy, you jump to

1254
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: this person doesn't like me, and also jump to it's

1255
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 1: like just a sex thing, right those That's that's the

1256
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: that's the binary. It's either one or the other. There's

1257
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 1: no room for this could be this could be something.

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01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: But I also said that Bowen is okay for me,

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 1: that Bowen is not really going for people that are

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: on his wave length, and that he could form those

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01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,879
Speaker 1: feelings for and I feel like it's it's it's whoever

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 1: happens to be, you know, your current romantic you know, dalliance.

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01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: You know, either it's a fun hook up or like whatever.

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01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: Part of the fulfilling, self fulfilling prophecy is that, well,

1265
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: this person is not on my same wavelength. They don't

1266
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: fulfill me, like intellectually, I can't really see myself, like,

1267
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 1: you know, falling in love with this person and like

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01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: finding a partner in them. And so then of course

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01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 1: it falls into the binary yes, yes, and I and

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 1: I think, you know, with myself, I like fall into

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: the pattern of like I say that I want this partner,

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01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: I say that I want this developed, whole person. And

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01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: I date comedians. Know, I date the same guy that

1274
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: I've been danged since I was nineteen years old, And

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01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: it's the same issues every time you do tend to

1276
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:28,040
Speaker 1: date a very similar person. But it's different variations on

1277
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: that same person. So there's there's the Texas man and

1278
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 1: the checks Hello, I was gonna says, you must discuss

1279
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: the checks um. There's different variations on a theme, yeah

1280
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: for sure. And it's what's comfortable when I meet a

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01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: funny man who like I can do bits with and

1282
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 1: I think it's cute. It just it just happened and

1283
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 1: and and it's easy and and you know, I love

1284
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: that guy. But I can't keep complaining about not being

1285
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: with like um, a fully developed person, which is my

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01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: main thing, and then keep dating comedians male comedians like

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01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: it's it's well, you know what though, Like I think

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 1: that I think that what we're experiencing at this age,

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01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 1: which is like, you know, becoming thirty, I think that

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 1: what we're dirty cusp, dirty cusp for me, third fold

1291
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: blown thirty K three anti colon thirty cusp. That's the title.

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. UM. I didn't sign off

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: on that. I'm not seeing discussion of UM. I think

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01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 1: that what we're realizing is that at this age, those

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01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: people that you've tend to go for, they can't fake

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01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: being Okay, I'm cool anymore, you know what I mean?

1297
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: Like at thirty, it's like people are starting to really

1298
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: feel like, why haven't I figured it out? Or if

1299
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 1: I have figured it out, did I figure it out

1300
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 1: in the right way? And everyone is very much facing

1301
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: their own stuff right now at this age and going forward,

1302
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's not once you move through your twenties,

1303
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: it's like you can't blame it on your twenties anymore,

1304
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,400
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like so I think

1305
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: that's why it's frustrating to deal with the type of

1306
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: person that is um uh not has not figured it out.

1307
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,520
Speaker 1: I think this is a time when they are confronting

1308
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: that hard. Yeah. And I also find over and over

1309
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: again that, like I have figured a lot more out

1310
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 1: than maybe other people my age have. And that's like,

1311
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter too if I'm like with somebody who

1312
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: maybe isn't like as financially stable as I am, or

1313
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: isn't as like far along in their career as I am. Like,

1314
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,479
Speaker 1: I acknowledge that, like I got to those places very

1315
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: early in my life, and I am very much willing

1316
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: to be with somebody who is not at that place

1317
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,640
Speaker 1: in their life you know yet or ever whatever, you

1318
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I I feel like I'm that's

1319
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: not a big deal for me, it's a big deal

1320
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's totally

1321
01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: a You're a fixed point and they are trying to

1322
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: find themselves around lative their circumstances relative to yours. It's

1323
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: hard to date men when you're a woman who is

1324
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:13,640
Speaker 1: successful Dixie Chicks. Dixie Chicks, tight on my bon. You

1325
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 1: don't want to be doing any man's taxes, Matt, what's

1326
01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 1: your summer of kunkle? Okay, So I would say that

1327
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: it's almost weird to even have a summer of kun

1328
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: goal because I feel that everyone summer of count ambition

1329
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: should just be to survive. But I would say, um uh,

1330
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: my summer of kunt goal is staying positive, and my

1331
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: summer of cunt goal is to be more honest with

1332
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 1: myself and um uh, to stop letting myself off the

1333
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: hook so many times. Like sometimes I will like let

1334
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: myself slip in terms of um like I think I

1335
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: could probably like be indulging a little bit less, Like

1336
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 1: I'm like sort of eating my diets not great again

1337
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: in quarantine and like I do smoke a ton of

1338
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: weed and like sit around and watch a lot of

1339
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 1: television just like and I feel like a lot something

1340
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: a lot of people doing is like it's quarantine, It's okay,

1341
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: and like reaching across the table and grabbing your hand

1342
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: to me, and like it's okay. All you have to

1343
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: do is survive right now. All you have to do

1344
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: is make it to the next day. This is unprecedented

1345
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 1: what we're going through. You know, like no one has

1346
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 1: a rule book on how to do this right. It's quarantine.

1347
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: It's so different. And I'm just like, you gotta stop

1348
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: saying that at a certain point because this could be

1349
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 1: for a while. You know what, I think we're all

1350
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: just saying, like, well, the vaccine is coming. Who the

1351
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: fuck is the doctor here who knows that the vaccine

1352
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 1: is girl? And now how you're gonna get it? And

1353
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the first vaccine? Girl? Okay, girl, Astra

1354
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: Zeneca has a two billion dose commitment to the Oxford vaccine.

1355
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna come eventually. Just because you say that does

1356
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 1: not make it true. I'm the authority of you actually

1357
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: are deeply not. All I'm saying is that, like we

1358
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,360
Speaker 1: can't use this complacent time to be complacent, if that

1359
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 1: makes sense, Like like, yes, a huge focus of our

1360
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: lives should be just like trying to find like our

1361
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: little moments of positivity that keep us going day to day.

1362
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: But also like I want to make sure that I'm

1363
01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: still taking care of myself, you know what I mean.

1364
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 1: I I don't want to It doesn't need to be

1365
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: your default, which is like full hedonistic debauchery, you know

1366
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: what I mean. We don't always have to go there,

1367
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And I feel like people

1368
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: who ordinarily would deal with stress by like going out

1369
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: and dancing are going on and having sex, are going

1370
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: out and like you know, drinking or like going on

1371
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: and doing this. Like you're facing all those things and

1372
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be in your house. And so for me, like, um,

1373
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: I'm the kind of person that doesn't have great impulse

1374
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: control when it comes to like eating stuff or um,

1375
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, like indulging or whatever. And so for me,

1376
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 1: I just want to exercise a little bit more self control.

1377
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: And just because someone else is like um, doing one

1378
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 1: thing doesn't mean I have to do it. And I

1379
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: just want to stay more positive. And I think the

1380
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 1: way I can do that is to sort of be

1381
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: a little bit real with myself about the fact that, like,

1382
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, just because I'm in this apartment all the

1383
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,320
Speaker 1: time doesn't mean that, like, um, my life has to

1384
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 1: feel sloppy or I just I don't have to feel

1385
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: sluggish or you know, like I I do. I did

1386
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 1: start like working out, um, you know, Ariel again on

1387
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 1: the Zoom with him and like he like I work

1388
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: out with him. In the first day we did that,

1389
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: because I hadn't worked out in so long, I felt awful.

1390
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: I had to stop like three quarters of the way

1391
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 1: through and like almost threw up because it's been so long.

1392
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 1: And also there's and I really wasn't but I just

1393
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 1: kind of like a wake up call of like, really

1394
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: the way I've treated myself over the past four months.

1395
01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: And for me, it's like I had made so many

1396
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: positive changes in that area that I don't want to

1397
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: fall back to like me and my mid till late twenties,

1398
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:48,320
Speaker 1: where it was sort of like I can do whatever

1399
01:17:48,400 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: the funk I want, like my metabolism is good, Like

1400
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: that's not really the case anymore. Like I'm thirty years old.

1401
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: Like again, I am thirty years old, not thirty costs,

1402
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:00,040
Speaker 1: like he keeps kind of like taking the narrative the

1403
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: cusp of your thirties. We just don't want old, asked

1404
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: a race that you can do and feel however over

1405
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: the age that you want. But me, I'm not gonna again.

1406
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: This is this is the accountability of self, Like I

1407
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 1: am thirty years or I'm saying that the three of

1408
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: us are bound to a common identity of thirty cuss. Okay,

1409
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,960
Speaker 1: well you keep dressing. You know how I feel about

1410
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: the thirty year old narrative. And I'm not saying that

1411
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 1: means old. I'm just saying it means that, like I

1412
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 1: can't get away with the stuff that I used to

1413
01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: get away with, And that's not a bad thing. It's

1414
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 1: a good thing. I'm trying to be accountable. Um, you

1415
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I just I just don't want

1416
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 1: to feel like shitty and then then the what I

1417
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: feel shitty when I eat table bell at one in

1418
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, because it's not good for you, hunt right,

1419
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: And I know that, but but like that's where my

1420
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: impulse control falters. And like I don't feel good when

1421
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm up till three in the morning and then wake

1422
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 1: up at noon. That's why, like I'm so excited to

1423
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: be working again, and like I'm really excited to be

1424
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: like doing things again, and like it's great to remember

1425
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 1: that that will return because I like to go to

1426
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: bed at ten thirty or eleven PM and then wake

1427
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: up at seven thirty eight o'clock in the morning. Like

1428
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:12,080
Speaker 1: I like that, Like I've really discovered that about myself

1429
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: and moving to Los Angeles, Like I like a routine,

1430
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: I love to work. I loved having a social life.

1431
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: And to be honest with you, like, before this was

1432
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: all happening, I had never been happier. I had been

1433
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: never been so professionally successful, you know, like things were

1434
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: going great in my personal life. You also love being busy.

1435
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: I love being busy, and I had a whole I

1436
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and be so excited about

1437
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 1: the day, and there was so much going on, and

1438
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:41,799
Speaker 1: like so much stuff that's still going on in the future,

1439
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's delayed or finding a way to happen.

1440
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: And I just you know, And it's so funny because

1441
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: while all this good stuff was happening, Like you got

1442
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 1: me that little tower of terror bell and I ding it.

1443
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: It looks like a little like what would you call it,

1444
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: like a bell hop bell? And I started digging it

1445
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: every morning for luck, and I was like, I gotta

1446
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: dig it for luck. And then one day I ding

1447
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:08,200
Speaker 1: the bell and I was walking out the door and

1448
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I mean, all this good stuff

1449
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: is happening now, but it's gonna end, Like there's no

1450
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: way I can continue to be this happy. And then

1451
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: I had my thirtieth birthday, and then three or four

1452
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: days later, it was like quarantine went or the coronavirus

1453
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: went from something that was like not our problem to

1454
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: like very much our problem, and they were saying in

1455
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, they'll be fine. And then when

1456
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: it was clear that was not the case, like I did,

1457
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 1: like there was like a period there where like every

1458
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: six seven days I would have like a very very

1459
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:45,560
Speaker 1: dark day, and I was like, I can't believe I

1460
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:48,320
Speaker 1: worked so long and so hard to be able to

1461
01:20:48,439 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: finally be self sufficient and happy and have a nice

1462
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: apartment and like, you know, do all these things. And

1463
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 1: I finally, after a decade of like really struggling, was

1464
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: here and now like you were, Yeah, I mean, like

1465
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 1: and you know, lots of things. It's a huge setback

1466
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 1: for everyone, and like you know, so many people. It's

1467
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: just stopped momentum for everyone. And I and I am

1468
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,600
Speaker 1: totally aware of the fact that, like you know, for

1469
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,760
Speaker 1: so many people, that stop so much more than just

1470
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 1: momentum or or joy. So but in the way that

1471
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with it, I just don't want that to

1472
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 1: um continue to dominate my life. Yeah, just like just

1473
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: or just like the like I can't stand it when

1474
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 1: people are like acting like this is going to be forever,

1475
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: like it's just even if it's a joke. I I

1476
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: hate it, and I think less of people who talk

1477
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:44,919
Speaker 1: to me like that, okay, and people who are negative

1478
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: towards me around the coronavirus like it's something that I

1479
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 1: can't get over, Like I I if you talk to

1480
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 1: me and like spew like sort of terror speak about

1481
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 1: the coronavirus and quarantine, like I'm done. I'm out, like

1482
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: like your threatened my happiness and I can't talk to you.

1483
01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: So as long as it doesn't hold you back from

1484
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 1: confronting reality is about no, I can confront reality, like

1485
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 1: I'm aware people want to live there, and you know,

1486
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,240
Speaker 1: some people can't help it. And that's just like how

1487
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 1: they process it like this and like you know, they

1488
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: need to keep up on the well those people can

1489
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: get but but those people can get the funk away

1490
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: from me, is what I'm saying, Like I don't want

1491
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: to talk to you. I don't want you in my

1492
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,680
Speaker 1: life if you're going to be some sort of like

1493
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 1: someone who's obsessed with fatality, I'm out, Like I don't

1494
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 1: like you. I don't like negative enage. You just don't

1495
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: want to talk to like a black pillar who's like, Okay,

1496
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: this is like every we're fucked forever. Yeah, I don't

1497
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 1: want anyone that's I don't need anyone in my life.

1498
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 1: That's like thinking we're going to be living in COVID

1499
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: soup for the rest of our life. Even if that's true,

1500
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: I just don't care to engage in it because of

1501
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:55,240
Speaker 1: what I know it does to me, and so keep

1502
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: it away from me because that's just the way I feel.

1503
01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,880
Speaker 1: And so what I feel like I'm focused on for

1504
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: summer of kun is just making the world a beautiful

1505
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: place that I can still positive for myself, which is

1506
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: hard yea um, but it's hard to have goals in

1507
01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 1: terms of like, you know, interpersonal relationships or my own

1508
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: body or this or that the other thing without without

1509
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: relating to the coronavirus, which is what we're all going through,

1510
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 1: because for me, it's like that is the dominating thing

1511
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: that is the equalizer of everyone right now, and for me,

1512
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: it's just like trying to find a way to live

1513
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: with this understanding that it might be however long. Yes,

1514
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,759
Speaker 1: you you don't want to plot your your your personal

1515
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 1: growth without considering the monoculture that is, well, how could

1516
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: you how could you how could you live like that? Like,

1517
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: how could you actually live thinking well, this is what

1518
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: life is now until the day I die? Like I

1519
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: don't get I mean, some people, in the same way

1520
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: that you function that would rather stay in a bubble

1521
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: of positivity because you're very sensitive to those kinds of thoughts.

1522
01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: Some people get comfort in the reality and knowing what's

1523
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 1: going on. Some people need to know the facts, live

1524
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 1: in the facts and think worst case scenario so that

1525
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 1: they can they can prepare for that, and that is

1526
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: how some people function and cope. I mean, I think

1527
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: the bottom line is that people we all know how

1528
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: horrible to situation is. People are dying and the government

1529
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 1: is failing us, and you know how you live with

1530
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: that every day. As long as you know that and

1531
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: you're like responsible for that, responsible reacting to that, then

1532
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm sucking saying. I'm just like

1533
01:24:44,479 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: you're trying to present like a logical reason for why

1534
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: someone would be obsessed with the situation that we're because

1535
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: because they want because they want to understand what's happening,

1536
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 1: and they want to feel like my whole family, it's

1537
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 1: like it's another case here, another case. They're like, I mean,

1538
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,160
Speaker 1: that's the text. Threat is like anything you bring up,

1539
01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, I mean, and we're never going

1540
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 1: to get this, and those people are dying and like,

1541
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: of course they won't wear a mask and everything. I mean,

1542
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: my entire like extended family lives in that every day.

1543
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: But they're also you know, that's just how they function.

1544
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: They are news uh sponges, and they need to monitor

1545
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 1: the situation. And let me make clear that I am

1546
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 1: not someone who doesn't watch the news. I very much

1547
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: know what's going on, and I is the news. I

1548
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 1: keep up every day with what's going on, and I

1549
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: am doing everything in my power, like to stop the

1550
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,679
Speaker 1: spread in my own life. And but what I'm saying

1551
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: is when people are comfortable with negativity and fatality, which

1552
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: is different than reality. Reality is, we are in a

1553
01:25:53,400 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: horrible pandemic and every single day there's more cases in

1554
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:00,799
Speaker 1: in the United States because our government is famil that's reality.

1555
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with knowing reality. What I'm uncomfortable with is

1556
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 1: people submitting to the idea that this is forever and

1557
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: like that's what's going to be top of mind forever.

1558
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how could you what are you

1559
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: looking forward? You need to see a light at the

1560
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel very much. And I don't think

1561
01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: that it's I don't think that that's accurate to say

1562
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 1: that this is the new normal and everything, I mean,

1563
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: huge cataclysmic events happen, you know, in the world, and

1564
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 1: then you adjust to a new reality and some things

1565
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 1: are different and some things are the same, and that

1566
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: that will probably be what happens here. I just get

1567
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 1: frustrated when when there's sort of a resignation to death,

1568
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 1: Like I just like that because I need to. I like,

1569
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: I like living. If that sounds m basic or whatever. Um, Sudi,

1570
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 1: let's let's go to your Sudi, what's your summer count? Um? Well,

1571
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was thinking about this today in the shower,

1572
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 1: and I was thinking that, like a big reason why

1573
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 1: Bowen and I were like let's go to l A

1574
01:27:20,680 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: was that we were you know, you know, um, everything

1575
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: is well, you know, everything's a risk, so you you'd

1576
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 1: be as safe as you can and still things could happen.

1577
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 1: You gotta mitigate the risk. Gonna be like I don't

1578
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,800
Speaker 1: know this is women. You know what weird decided was

1579
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: um but uh, you know it's because like Bone and

1580
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: I were like in our apartments in New York and

1581
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: we're both single, and like a big thing for me

1582
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: was that like I kept having these dark, repetitive thoughts,

1583
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: like just living in like a dark thoughts cycle. And

1584
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: I would like work, and I had like the Shrill

1585
01:27:56,439 --> 01:27:58,559
Speaker 1: Zoom Room and like a running joke that I would say,

1586
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: like if I like talk a little bit too much

1587
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 1: or told a boring story like in the Shrill Zoom Room,

1588
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,760
Speaker 1: I would like say afterwards. I was like, you guys

1589
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:09,000
Speaker 1: are the only and first people I talked to all day,

1590
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,599
Speaker 1: and so if I seem crazy right now, like that's why.

1591
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 1: And one of my like recurring dark thoughts was and

1592
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,600
Speaker 1: it sounds like so nasty, like in the world of

1593
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:25,560
Speaker 1: COVID to like think of this, but also like this

1594
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: is what summer of cons about it, and it's like

1595
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 1: often about our romantic lives. I think also because like

1596
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: career wise or like life wise, we feel good and

1597
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,040
Speaker 1: so like we tend to focus on our romantic lives.

1598
01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 1: But I was like this was this summer or whatever.

1599
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 1: I was like I was gonna get find a fucking boyfriend,

1600
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 1: and I was gonna, you know, like I was gonna

1601
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,400
Speaker 1: be over and I was gonna get fucking snatched. And

1602
01:28:46,439 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 1: then this was gonna be my like slutty summer, which

1603
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: you know this is a pattern for me, is like

1604
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: I have slutty summers, which is like a god bless

1605
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is gonna be it, and

1606
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like fun and I'm gonna find a husband

1607
01:28:56,560 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: but also like fun and um, like I just kind

1608
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:04,800
Speaker 1: of was in this thought spiral of I'm alone in

1609
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: my apartment. I don't have a partner. I'm going through

1610
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: this alone, and I'm going to be alone because there's

1611
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 1: this window that I have before I have to go

1612
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 1: back to work and work like a thousand hours a

1613
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: week and um be so burnt out that I can't

1614
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:21,240
Speaker 1: even like see let alone like touch a dick, and um,

1615
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 1: you know, they really don't talk about and they need

1616
01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 1: a chapter in the SNL book about like how to

1617
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: fix your sex life. I mean, come on, how to

1618
01:29:28,479 --> 01:29:32,640
Speaker 1: touch a dick? First of all, um, please let me know. Um.

1619
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:38,760
Speaker 1: But then you know, it's funny because like just the

1620
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 1: other day I was in our Airbnb and you know,

1621
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 1: it's COVID and I'm talking to this guy and we

1622
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: sort of had them go on. There was there was

1623
01:29:54,120 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 1: a phone sex situation and you know, I love I

1624
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 1: love it, I love it and after word, okay, so

1625
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: I'll say it went there. It absolutely went there. Did

1626
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: finish there? Oh yeah. And and the next morning, you know,

1627
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: he texts me and I was very much like I'm

1628
01:30:28,479 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 1: defining this experience for him in terms of like me,

1629
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, look, it's quarantine. I had never

1630
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 1: done something like that before. It was fun. It was

1631
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: a moment in time. I got my damn night, which

1632
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 1: I didn't say, but like I was like, you know,

1633
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I hope it was mutually pleasurable blah blah blah, and

1634
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,919
Speaker 1: like that's great. And I was like I'm sucking empowered

1635
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: with my pleasure. It's quarantine. And I'm like, you know,

1636
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:53,240
Speaker 1: doing this And then you know he's in New York

1637
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: and like with the time difference or whatever. The next

1638
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,880
Speaker 1: day he like text me at like two pm and

1639
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: like I'm busy and horned up and he's like I'm

1640
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:03,760
Speaker 1: thinking about blah blah blah, Like come say hi, and

1641
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 1: I'm like this this this can't this can't be I

1642
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,560
Speaker 1: just it just um. It was clear to me that

1643
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: like the experience for me was different than the experience

1644
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 1: for him, and like that's okay. But I just kind

1645
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,160
Speaker 1: of realized because in the end, it wasn't that satisfying

1646
01:31:21,680 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: of I have no regrets, but it really wasn't that

1647
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 1: um satisfying of an experience. And I think that I

1648
01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 1: was like, what if I just stop seeking this? What

1649
01:31:34,720 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: if I just stop? And I should have come to

1650
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 1: this so much earlier in quarantine, But I was like,

1651
01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: why am I obsessed over finding like some dude to

1652
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 1: like fuck and look at when I wake up in

1653
01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: the morning. Who the fuck cares? He's probably gonna suck anyway,

1654
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:56,439
Speaker 1: So like, why don't I just be absolutely one hundred

1655
01:31:56,680 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: percent okay and happy and exta attic that I'm single,

1656
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:05,880
Speaker 1: be happy with myself, like celebrate myself. And then when

1657
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:10,679
Speaker 1: a great other soul comes to me and I see

1658
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,920
Speaker 1: that soul and I say, I want to share my

1659
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:15,639
Speaker 1: like joy with you, and I want to share your

1660
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:19,400
Speaker 1: joys and your sorrows. When I meet that special thing,

1661
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:22,760
Speaker 1: then I will be like, let's do this. But if

1662
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't see that thing if I don't see that

1663
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 1: special soul, then I need to be like celebrating my

1664
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 1: ass and not worry about nothing's missing in my life.

1665
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,759
Speaker 1: That's what I need to get rid of. Nothing's missing

1666
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 1: in my life. Yes, but it is understandable to me

1667
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: to want to seek out some quick little dopamine headward

1668
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: different different, but then you're nut is different. But you build,

1669
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: you build your channels for people who can help you

1670
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 1: get your nut. And so you and so you communed

1671
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,760
Speaker 1: or you whatever, you connected with this guy and then

1672
01:32:57,800 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: you got your nuts. And then the next day he

1673
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 1: was like, hey, it's two pm on the Pacific coast.

1674
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Why don't we blah blah blah, And you're like, wait, no,

1675
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Like it's just it's first of all, you're allowed to

1676
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 1: say no, of course, and also to be honest with you.

1677
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 1: Like I kind of think it's nice to have those

1678
01:33:14,640 --> 01:33:16,880
Speaker 1: relationships where it's like, oh, that's the guy I get

1679
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,320
Speaker 1: my nut with online, you know what I mean? Like

1680
01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:24,599
Speaker 1: I think it's fun. No, nothing feel absolutely fun. It's fun,

1681
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 1: and it's it's just like it's also it's its own

1682
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,600
Speaker 1: real little relationship and it's like I don't think of

1683
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: that as a thing that's like, I don't want to

1684
01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:34,120
Speaker 1: do this anymore unless it's making you feel bad. It's

1685
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: great that he exists there and he wants to get

1686
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: his nut with you. I guess I just felt that

1687
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: I wish and I'm not going into d D into

1688
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: d D D details, but I wish that the attitude

1689
01:33:44,439 --> 01:33:47,479
Speaker 1: on his part had been let's get our nut together

1690
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: and let us be like a happy fun But it

1691
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: was not that way from him, and that was what

1692
01:33:55,240 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 1: was he to me, which is why I'm kind of

1693
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: like I gotta be good with myself and also like yes,

1694
01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,599
Speaker 1: and also like I don't regret the experience and don't

1695
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 1: put any extra stress on yourself. That that's part of

1696
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,680
Speaker 1: kind of what I'm saying is it's like, you know,

1697
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: let things be easy in that department because it's so

1698
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 1: hard of everywhere else. And also like I think like ultimately,

1699
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: if you have the attitude that it feels like some

1700
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,200
Speaker 1: of these guys might have, it might lead you down

1701
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: a road of like funk, I'm single, Like wasn't this

1702
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: wasn't what I needed it to be, This wasn't what

1703
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:37,479
Speaker 1: it really is and there and I might never have that, etcetera.

1704
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:42,920
Speaker 1: Just like don't live place. Wish that I just wish

1705
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,960
Speaker 1: that men understood where I come from with a lot

1706
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:49,320
Speaker 1: of hookups, which is like I think that there's this

1707
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 1: binarya of like where either just fucking or we're dating,

1708
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: and there can be an in between where you are.

1709
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: This is my ideal, which tender pleasure giving, caring. You know,

1710
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 1: the most natural thing in the world is to have sex,

1711
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:12,560
Speaker 1: you know, to explore, to be vulnerable in front of

1712
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:16,520
Speaker 1: each other and have it be this um good experience

1713
01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: for both people that is like two bodies, you know

1714
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: what I mean, And it's very natural. But once you

1715
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: get into that like um vulnerability with somebody, I think

1716
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: that a lot of times they're scared that it's going

1717
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 1: to turn into like a committed relationship thing, which is like,

1718
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 1: first of all, why are you so scared of that?

1719
01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:37,519
Speaker 1: Like that's also a natural human pattern to find love

1720
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: and to connect, you know. But also the other thing

1721
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 1: is like, once you are that free sexual woman in

1722
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: front of them, that's all they think of you as

1723
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:51,280
Speaker 1: they think of you as just like this woman who

1724
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,360
Speaker 1: is down to do those things where it's like it's

1725
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: not that you get to benefit for the fact that

1726
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm sexually liberated. But that doesn't mean that I am

1727
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 1: the person that you think that I am. Wow, this

1728
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:10,120
Speaker 1: is the thing. The market is constantly fluctuating around the

1729
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: value that we place on intimacy, sex, single hood, whatever,

1730
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 1: and so there's no fixed anything in our journeys around

1731
01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:26,320
Speaker 1: relationships or not wanting a relationship. Um to put this

1732
01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: in economic terms, it's like the value changes in all

1733
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:33,640
Speaker 1: of those areas. Also, intimacy and sex are two so

1734
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:39,280
Speaker 1: different things. Everybody, there's the understand that they're different things,

1735
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,679
Speaker 1: that they're two so different things. They're two so different things.

1736
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 1: There are such different things, and I think that like, ultimately,

1737
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:49,360
Speaker 1: like if if if the way that you have sex

1738
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: is like intimate always like and you need that, then

1739
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: that's great. But I think that some people could like

1740
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 1: it's lower the stakes a little bit by realizing that

1741
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: not everything has to mean like so much. Well one,

1742
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, I agree with you. But also it's like

1743
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 1: I also think deep deeply what it really is is

1744
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:18,479
Speaker 1: it's like we all wish for that moment when sex

1745
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:22,439
Speaker 1: feels like more, and every single time we have sex

1746
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel like more, we have questions with

1747
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: ourselves about why that was was it my fault? Was

1748
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 1: it his fault? Could get better? And I feel good

1749
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 1: about this, So I feel bad. I judge myself about it.

1750
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: And that's something that's been like a whole journey I

1751
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,000
Speaker 1: think for everyone. Is it's just like especially living in

1752
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:44,680
Speaker 1: a culture where sex is like vilified, you know what

1753
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, especially being it is made to look like

1754
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 1: a bad, illicit thing. And well I think also like

1755
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:57,720
Speaker 1: in as a woman, as a woman, it's worth having

1756
01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:02,760
Speaker 1: sex with straight man. The what what I take from

1757
01:38:02,800 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: what you're saying that is like the intention versus the

1758
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: aftermath is often too things. It's like the thing where

1759
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: like you're watching porn and you're like typing in your

1760
01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 1: search words, and then afterwards, once you're not, you're like,

1761
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't even know what the like who is that?

1762
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't know who that is? But it exists with

1763
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: just you and you, and so you don't have like

1764
01:38:21,960 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: a narrative back and forth about it, whereas when you

1765
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 1: have sex with another person, you have to leave that

1766
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: situation knowing that you shared it with someone else and

1767
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: they have an emotional conversation that they're having with themselves

1768
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,920
Speaker 1: about which is worse because when you're just left with

1769
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 1: your own thoughts and search words. There's no exhaust fun.

1770
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: So you're just like, well, this is my ship. I

1771
01:38:41,880 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 1: think it's always going to be worth worse when you

1772
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 1: have questions about what someone else felt about it. I

1773
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: kind of feel like the pattern that I get stuck

1774
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: in is that I feel sexually free. I also like

1775
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:00,320
Speaker 1: am horny and a sexual person, and so when I'm

1776
01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 1: attracted to somebody who are on a date, that's something

1777
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,519
Speaker 1: that I'm looking for, is like that fun hook up

1778
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the night, whatever like degree of

1779
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 1: hook up that is. And I don't like to do

1780
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 1: the mental game of commodifying access to my body in

1781
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 1: terms of a relationship. I don't like to hold back

1782
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 1: to get something down the line. I don't like to

1783
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,439
Speaker 1: engage in that. And I think that men are very

1784
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:33,719
Speaker 1: excited when I am sexually down and excited and want

1785
01:39:33,800 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 1: to fuck, but then they get into this narrative of

1786
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:45,200
Speaker 1: the commodifying of my sexual access, and then once we fuck,

1787
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 1: it's like you are fuck. You are no longer like

1788
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe people would say, like you have

1789
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:56,720
Speaker 1: to let the emotions grow before the physicality grows, And

1790
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 1: I think that there is um you know an argument

1791
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 1: to that, and and and and you know sex is

1792
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: better when you have a deeper connection. But I'm not

1793
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: always in that place. And that's why I have sex

1794
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 1: with a lot of people once because I see the

1795
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: look in their eyes when it's done, and I'm like,

1796
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 1: this is of me? You feel like they come out,

1797
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 1: do you feel like a notch on their bed post?

1798
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: This has changed your view of me? And your view

1799
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:25,760
Speaker 1: of me is not accurate. And I think you a

1800
01:40:25,880 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 1: favor and like you're not even paying me like the

1801
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:33,360
Speaker 1: respect that I deserve for Like why can't this just

1802
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 1: be a mutual nice thing to do to somebody to

1803
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:40,719
Speaker 1: make somebody else come that it should be mutual aid?

1804
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 1: And that's a rule of culture number nine, sexually mutual

1805
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,880
Speaker 1: aid community. It's just so different in the community that

1806
01:40:47,960 --> 01:40:50,600
Speaker 1: Bone and I are in. It's so different because it

1807
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,320
Speaker 1: is it's like transactional is not the right word. It's

1808
01:40:54,400 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 1: just so like, um, the the the the term to arrive,

1809
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: the terms to arrive at the finished chroducts, let's say,

1810
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: are like constantly fucked up in weird. I don't know,

1811
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: I think it can be. There's no set terms of

1812
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:16,720
Speaker 1: agreement to arriving in sex, yeah, I think, which also

1813
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: applies to heterosexual I think that for for a woman

1814
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: entering sex, though, just just me guessing, it must feel like,

1815
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,720
Speaker 1: you know, as I'm entering a sexual situation with this man,

1816
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 1: this heterosexual man, like there is a lot more going

1817
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,799
Speaker 1: on interior because I, as a woman, like have something

1818
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,600
Speaker 1: to sort of like lose here because this guy is

1819
01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 1: just that's the narrative. That's the narrative that I reject.

1820
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: That is the narrative. And don't get me wrong, the

1821
01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: narrative seeps in and I can go there, you know

1822
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 1: what I mean. But as a fucking liberated woman who

1823
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,839
Speaker 1: has done the work and educated myself with my own oppression,

1824
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: I reject that narrative. But I'm confronted with that narrative

1825
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:58,720
Speaker 1: with the other person constantly, whether it's conscious or subconscious,

1826
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe sometimes it's in my head. I

1827
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:05,400
Speaker 1: also feel like I try, you know, sex is complicated

1828
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: for men too. I think that there's a lot of

1829
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:11,320
Speaker 1: like nervousness and performance anxiety, and like, you know, I

1830
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,639
Speaker 1: think that there's a whole bag of worms. There's there's

1831
01:42:14,720 --> 01:42:17,120
Speaker 1: so there's so much on either side, you know what

1832
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess my ideal sexual situation and you know,

1833
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,040
Speaker 1: if you know somebody, if you're listening right now and

1834
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 1: you know somebody who's down for this, its reach out

1835
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: and if they have a good job and they're well

1836
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 1: educated and read, that's that's really kind of a requirement.

1837
01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,880
Speaker 1: And I want to say that with the caveat um

1838
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,960
Speaker 1: uh because you know we're we're we're trying to find

1839
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 1: our partner as well. But there's risk involved. And if

1840
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have to have the peat, they

1841
01:42:47,640 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: just have to enjoy their work, you know what I mean,

1842
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: and like be passionate about it and be good um um.

1843
01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:54,760
Speaker 1: But like I guess what I'm looking for is like

1844
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 1: if I can't find that um soul that I want

1845
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 1: to connect it and be vulnerable with and like fall

1846
01:43:02,040 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 1: in love with, I wish that I could find liberated

1847
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 1: individuals who um were interested in mutual pleasure and kindness. Yeah,

1848
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:14,280
Speaker 1: that's that. That's what it is. This is This is

1849
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 1: summer of count for all of us, isn't it. I

1850
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 1: think it's just like men just have to not be

1851
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 1: like weird stupid fuck boys and which applies. But but

1852
01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:29,479
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be then make sure the other person

1853
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: is a weird, stupid fun boy too, Yes, because because

1854
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,640
Speaker 1: like for me, it's like I think there's like I

1855
01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 1: feel like it's like there's like people that are your friends,

1856
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,320
Speaker 1: and then there's people that are your friends where their

1857
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: sexual chemistry, and then the gay community. I feel like

1858
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 1: it's like we've sort of figured out because like the

1859
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,440
Speaker 1: the situation that we're in is like so not sexually

1860
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: standard because we're outside of like a heterosexual paradigm. It's

1861
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,479
Speaker 1: like if you have sexual chemistry with a friend of

1862
01:43:54,520 --> 01:43:58,560
Speaker 1: yours and it's mutual, like sex is part of the

1863
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: way you just hang out with that end, And so

1864
01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:05,680
Speaker 1: I almost wish that, yeah, but I almost wish that

1865
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 1: was more of an accepted I wish people would just

1866
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 1: treat sex with the respect that it deserves, yes, but

1867
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 1: also as a thing that's like natural and could be

1868
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 1: fun and doesn't have to be this thing after where

1869
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 1: it's like someone one or someone like feels like they

1870
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: got something out of it and like took something from

1871
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: someone else, you know what I mean. Like it's it's

1872
01:44:24,160 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: too it's too um complicated. I think sometimes there's there's

1873
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,640
Speaker 1: there's a there shouldn't be a flag involved. It's not

1874
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,680
Speaker 1: a capture of the flag mission. Yeah, yeah, And you

1875
01:44:35,760 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: have to see people's feelings into account, and like you

1876
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:39,679
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it should be a great

1877
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,840
Speaker 1: experience for everyone involved, and it shouldn't just be an

1878
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 1: experience for an experience as sake because people people a

1879
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of people feel really um invaded because of it.

1880
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people feel like like compromised because of it.

1881
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:55,360
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, there should be more communication. There

1882
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 1: should be more communication the best sex, and I think

1883
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 1: that that is something I need to like really know

1884
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: that I want going forward, and like you have to

1885
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:06,120
Speaker 1: set the tone. The best sex that I have had

1886
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: recently was like with somebody who I had slept with

1887
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 1: many times before and had been like a long period

1888
01:45:11,360 --> 01:45:13,479
Speaker 1: of times before we had slept with each other. It

1889
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: was quarantine and we were like okay, like you know,

1890
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 1: is this the vibe? And there was sexy communication before rhand,

1891
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: and like I like was like, let's show up for

1892
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,760
Speaker 1: each other and like it's quarantine and it's been a while,

1893
01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 1: and like let's make it worth it if we're gonna

1894
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 1: like break quarantine, and like let's like really be there

1895
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:40,400
Speaker 1: for each other, not to not, you're not negative. It

1896
01:45:40,600 --> 01:45:44,439
Speaker 1: is mine is to let's not. Let's not feel like yeah,

1897
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 1: that's that's it. It's ku three anti colon, let's not

1898
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: let's not. I feel like it's um important to nut. Yes,

1899
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 1: I had something else to say, but I realized we

1900
01:45:56,800 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 1: have we have gone so long, and we have to

1901
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:00,880
Speaker 1: get to I don't think so high to get before

1902
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 1: we do, we should just say gaslight or the album

1903
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:11,000
Speaker 1: by the Dixie Chicks. Chicks is fucking amazing and we've

1904
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,360
Speaker 1: all been enjoying it, and we haven't really touched so

1905
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:15,720
Speaker 1: much culture. But that is the culture that we three

1906
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 1: are experiencing right now. Yeah, and I would say we

1907
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 1: haven't touched on much culture, but the three of us

1908
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:32,200
Speaker 1: together is is a culture. Culture. Shall we we shall?

1909
01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 1: This is I don't think so, honey. This is where

1910
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:35,759
Speaker 1: we take one minute to rail against something in culture.

1911
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 1: I have something, mat to, you have something I do. Okay,

1912
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 1: So traditionally macOS first, and let's keep up with traditions.

1913
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 1: Since this is a traditional episode, Matt, this is Matt Rogers.

1914
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,439
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I

1915
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,479
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Zac Efron and the conversation around

1916
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:54,640
Speaker 1: zac Efron because recently I saw a little article that

1917
01:46:54,760 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: was like, wow, zac Efron's new dad bod. Okay, we

1918
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,640
Speaker 1: have to understand this is not a dad body. This

1919
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: is what happens when you have a lot of help

1920
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,280
Speaker 1: from a lot of substances, maybe illegal, maybe not, and

1921
01:47:07,400 --> 01:47:10,519
Speaker 1: you sort of age this is and you sort of

1922
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,920
Speaker 1: become like what zac Affron is now. You could not

1923
01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: achieve this type of body without outside how seconds. And

1924
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 1: I feel like there's sort of like this toxic conversation

1925
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,560
Speaker 1: about around, like his looks as if they're natural. His

1926
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:28,600
Speaker 1: looks are not natural, and so having a conversation with

1927
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,640
Speaker 1: him without saying that is to me dangerous, especially with

1928
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 1: gay man, which I've seen a lot of gay men

1929
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 1: actually discuss online, which they should be. Also, I don't

1930
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: think it's on the zac Efron because I can't see

1931
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,160
Speaker 1: him in the musical with this body. He needs to

1932
01:47:42,280 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 1: be slim enough to dance. I want to see zac

1933
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 1: Efron dance and sing. If not, I don't think and

1934
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,600
Speaker 1: you think that with that body he cannot dance. I

1935
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:53,880
Speaker 1: just feel like I can't take him seriously if he

1936
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,080
Speaker 1: were to start singing and dancing, and I want zac

1937
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: Efron saying and dancing. He should be in dancing shape,

1938
01:48:00,320 --> 01:48:03,680
Speaker 1: bulking up in the woods shape, because that's really the

1939
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 1: only acceptable thing we can accept him as as a

1940
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: screen presence, because we've now seen what happens in the

1941
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 1: aftermath of whatever he was doing to get his body

1942
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:14,520
Speaker 1: the way. It wasn't like bad Grandpa, sure, but for YouTube,

1943
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: for you to boxing into a link Troy box, he

1944
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:22,360
Speaker 1: should stay in that box. No. No, This is something

1945
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,519
Speaker 1: I really feel about him is it's like that's what

1946
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,360
Speaker 1: he's best, that he's most charming doing that, and it

1947
01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: is heteronormative culture. It is toxic masculinity that drove him

1948
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: away from what he's truly gifted from. And then he

1949
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: peeked back in with Greatest Showman and was so charming

1950
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 1: and lovely in that movie, and it was so fun

1951
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 1: to watch him return to that. And now all of

1952
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:43,479
Speaker 1: a sudden, he's like, what like left being in the

1953
01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 1: Revenant in the woods, Like what the hell is happening

1954
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 1: in this new show? And then everyone's like talking about

1955
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 1: his body transformation. I'm like, you want to talk about

1956
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 1: his body transformation, Let's have a discussion about superhero bodies,

1957
01:48:56,640 --> 01:48:58,559
Speaker 1: about Chris Evans's body and why it is the way

1958
01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,600
Speaker 1: it is, the transformation not working out just naturally. The

1959
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 1: transformation is going from temper sent body fat to fifteen

1960
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: let's say it's not even that draft he there's not

1961
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: there's not even anyway there's that much of body fat

1962
01:49:11,120 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: on him. And I just feel like there is a

1963
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:18,120
Speaker 1: sort of you can really boil down the toxic narrative,

1964
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: which is like, this is what an in shape man

1965
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:24,080
Speaker 1: looks like, seeping down to America and the world. I

1966
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:26,559
Speaker 1: think we can really talk about it with like zac

1967
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,240
Speaker 1: Efron and what he looks like right now, because it's

1968
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,519
Speaker 1: like to me, like I don't want to like guess

1969
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 1: the way he's feeling, but like I don't know if

1970
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 1: that he doesn't seem to me like a necessarily super

1971
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: happy person, because I don't know if he's like, if

1972
01:49:41,560 --> 01:49:43,600
Speaker 1: this is him living his truth, then God bless. But

1973
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,120
Speaker 1: like he to me is like someone who got famous

1974
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:48,599
Speaker 1: really young. The industry recognized him as someone they could

1975
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:50,920
Speaker 1: probably turn into an A list star, and they did

1976
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: all sorts of experiments on him to make him what

1977
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 1: he was, and those have also been social because I

1978
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,519
Speaker 1: don't think he's talking in his natural voice, and I

1979
01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 1: mean his whole celebrity is based around the dichotomy of yes,

1980
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:08,920
Speaker 1: I sing a dance, but not gay. Not gay. He

1981
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: is literally hashtag yeah, and it's like weird to me.

1982
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:16,799
Speaker 1: It's not even be gay because I'm not saying actually

1983
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:18,720
Speaker 1: be gay, but like it's like but it's like, it's

1984
01:50:18,760 --> 01:50:21,000
Speaker 1: like when guys at uc B would be like, I

1985
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: hate when you call it improv theater. It's like, what

1986
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 1: you're doing is gay. What you're doing a theater. What

1987
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,360
Speaker 1: you're doing is gay. And so just like fucking own Yeah,

1988
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:31,080
Speaker 1: there's a rule that you can't wear shorts, you have

1989
01:50:31,160 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 1: to wear pants. It's theater, bitch, Like you're up there

1990
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:38,559
Speaker 1: people paid to watch you perform on a stage a thrust. Also,

1991
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 1: every single woman at uc B has a fucking b

1992
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:46,800
Speaker 1: f a from like Boston Conservatory and like absolutely the

1993
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,479
Speaker 1: most highly trained musical theater actress who decided that she

1994
01:50:49,560 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: wanted agency and autonomy over what she performed, so she

1995
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,280
Speaker 1: went to comedy and was actually low key the best

1996
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:58,880
Speaker 1: person on your team, bitch, Becky chokoin sam Ree buck

1997
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,560
Speaker 1: off those funk up to the guys, funk off to

1998
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:06,880
Speaker 1: the guys. Okay, thank you many. I just feel like, yeah,

1999
01:51:07,080 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 1: that that's I'm standing by that because I just think

2000
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 1: it's a shame because had he been natural, he would

2001
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 1: he would be a beautiful man. And I'm not attracted

2002
01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:20,639
Speaker 1: to what he is right now because it's like so much. Anyway,

2003
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: he's not for me. I think I guess he's for

2004
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:25,320
Speaker 1: straight man only. Now. I don't know anyway, this is

2005
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:27,559
Speaker 1: Bowen Yanks. I don't think so, honey. And his time

2006
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so, honey. Parking it's the

2007
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 1: most inconvenient, stressful part of driving. And why should it

2008
01:51:34,720 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: be at the end, you know, to end off the

2009
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: journey of driving with the most stressful and that's not

2010
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:44,280
Speaker 1: how structure, a narrative structure works. It shouldn't. The climax

2011
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:47,560
Speaker 1: should not be at the end. It's so stressful, and

2012
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:50,720
Speaker 1: there's no moment to really like, digest and take in

2013
01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:54,160
Speaker 1: the accomplishment that is parking. If you've parked a car,

2014
01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:57,320
Speaker 1: you are a superhero and you there's no room in

2015
01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 1: that narrative for you to really appreciate yourself and the

2016
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 1: task that you've accomplished in parking a car in any space,

2017
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 1: whether it's parallel whether it's in a lot, whether it's

2018
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:12,600
Speaker 1: demarcated by lines, it is a huge deal. And parking structurally,

2019
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: it's fifteen. Positioning of parking is flawed, and you know

2020
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of grey areas, and whether or not

2021
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,360
Speaker 1: you pull the emergency break up or um if you're

2022
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,120
Speaker 1: in a stick shift five seconds. You know, So parking,

2023
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 1: I say, abolished parking. Let's just leave our cars wherever

2024
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: is most convenient. That's one minute. Everyone in l A

2025
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 1: and and anyone anyone outside of New York listening to

2026
01:52:34,760 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: this just rolled their fucking eyes. Bowen Yang, the COSP

2027
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: of thirty finally arrives that parking is not fun. My

2028
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: other I don't think one is going to be the

2029
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 1: colorism in Indian matchmaking. But that's for another time. I

2030
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,880
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, that's many for another time. It was

2031
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: important that you landed on I don't think so, honey.

2032
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,800
Speaker 1: Parking the concept as a parking as concept, Yeah, he doesn't.

2033
01:52:56,840 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: He thinks that the car should just, I don't know,

2034
01:52:58,439 --> 01:53:01,040
Speaker 1: go somewhere else with your drive. There should be you

2035
01:53:01,040 --> 01:53:02,679
Speaker 1: should be able to leave your car wherever you want.

2036
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 1: It is it is bad, I'll give you that it's bad.

2037
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: This is Sudi Greens. I don't think so, honey, and

2038
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 1: her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Organizing

2039
01:53:11,439 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: your books by color your rainbow ass millennial, ubiquitous aesthetic

2040
01:53:18,360 --> 01:53:23,400
Speaker 1: ass bookshelf. Okay. The first of all, books are for words,

2041
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:29,200
Speaker 1: not for colors. Second of all, we all know that

2042
01:53:29,320 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: you're keeping that pink book not because you read it,

2043
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:34,559
Speaker 1: not because you loved it, but because the pink spine

2044
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:42,880
Speaker 1: fitting very well in your literary uh style. Um. If

2045
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:46,640
Speaker 1: you organize your books by color, you're basically staying to

2046
01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: the world. I'm illiterate. Um, I'm only devoted to aesthetics.

2047
01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:55,800
Speaker 1: And like, yes, maybe this is snobby, but guess what

2048
01:53:56,120 --> 01:53:59,720
Speaker 1: books are snobby. They're inherently elitist. And I think that's

2049
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 1: okay and that we should be cool with that. Um,

2050
01:54:03,120 --> 01:54:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. If you posted about this

2051
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:09,880
Speaker 1: and um, you're not important and everybody does it and

2052
01:54:10,120 --> 01:54:15,800
Speaker 1: it's lame and that's one minute. Honestly, organizing books by

2053
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 1: color that's just so confusing. How would you find anything

2054
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 1: remembering that a certain book is blue? That's exactly it.

2055
01:54:22,640 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: It's like, then, these books aren't functional for knowledge. It's

2056
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 1: purely aesthetic. It's got to be a culture number. Books

2057
01:54:31,000 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 1: must be organized by author. No, they must be organized

2058
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: by or at least by general subject. No. No. The

2059
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 1: rule of culture number ninety four is books are for words,

2060
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:46,880
Speaker 1: not colors. Books are not colors. Here's the thing, though,

2061
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 1: Let's say you have a normal people where the spine

2062
01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 1: is green and blue. What are you gonna do? Then, honey,

2063
01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,080
Speaker 1: you gotta figure that break out of some put it

2064
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: on the That's actually an easy one. But let's say

2065
01:54:57,960 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 1: there's a two color between G and B on the

2066
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 1: roy It's counterintuitive. The whole organizations counterintuitctually. If the spine

2067
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,720
Speaker 1: has multiple colors on it, what you're gonna do. You're

2068
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:10,600
Speaker 1: gonna put it in the middle of where it would

2069
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:12,360
Speaker 1: be on the color scale. But this is just to

2070
01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 1: say dominent books are books literally contain multitudes, and so

2071
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 1: you cannot reduce them down to a single color. I

2072
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 1: organized my clothing by color. That's fine, because yeah, thank you,

2073
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 1: thank you for validating me. Clothes are for color. I mean,

2074
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: as you can see, I do not organize my books

2075
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:36,440
Speaker 1: by color because I only have two books, Catch and

2076
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:40,920
Speaker 1: Killed by ronan Pharaoh and Jessica Simpson's autobiography Thank You,

2077
01:55:41,480 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 1: called Open Book, Open Book, which I've read neither of them.

2078
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:47,320
Speaker 1: But it's not that I only own two books. Is

2079
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 1: that all my books were in New York and I

2080
01:55:48,800 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: moved and you can't really books don't travel well. And

2081
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: of course all seven Harry Potters were too heavy to bring,

2082
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:58,720
Speaker 1: uh to trivially transplant from there to here? And I

2083
01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:02,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't now any way, Yeah, I wouldn't. I would say,

2084
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 1: I'd rather you have two books than a hundred books

2085
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 1: and organized? Yeah. And also where would I put them

2086
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: at this place? Where would you put them? You? Get

2087
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 1: a bookshop? Get a bookshop. It's point, well, this has

2088
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 1: been our third summer of kunt I think it's probably

2089
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 1: one of our most thought provoking. I mean I thought

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Speaker 1: we provoked thoughts for sure, absolutely, And I think that

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Speaker 1: if we've left anyone with anything from this episode, it's

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Speaker 1: that they have to watch Disney fairy Tale Weddings absolutely

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01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: or shut up and sing Dixie Chicks? Which would you

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Speaker 1: watch last night? And I actually had already seen, so

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Speaker 1: I felt okay to fall asleep during it. He fell asleep.

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Speaker 1: But what did you guys think of shut up and

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Speaker 1: saying last night. I loved it, loved it. I loved

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Speaker 1: the logistics of touring. That was my favorite part. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: that was my takeaway. It was like the manager artist

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Speaker 1: relationship and the meetings. I liked seeing the production meetings.

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Speaker 1: I liked him that a publicist was a subject of

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Speaker 1: the documents. Sandy, Sandy Burger, and she and her beautiful

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Speaker 1: curls was just pacing around that rolling stone photos shipping link.

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Speaker 1: I the way I can boil her down is just

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Speaker 1: just in one word, no, no, no, no, that's Sandy. Well, Cindy,

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Speaker 1: Cindy fag fag fucking fagot well, not any closing thoughts

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Speaker 1: before we before we leave, I would say, I have

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Speaker 1: a closing bot. Okay, it's gonna be the most amazing,

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Speaker 1: but Sudi should have the clothing bot. I love you,

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Speaker 1: we love you, thank you for coming back for a

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Speaker 1: third summer of content in a fourth episode. I'm honored.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the most amazing.