1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Undervalued arms. Let's talk to the pros. Welcome in, everybody 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: to Fantasy pros. This is the Fantasy Baseball Podcast. It 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,239 Speaker 1: is me Joey Pitty, Joe Pisa, and today we're gonna 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: take a look at the undervalued pitchers in the early 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to mid rounds of your fantasy baseball drafts that are 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: going on pretty soon if they haven't even started already. 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: And some of those bestball leagues you're all in, everybody's 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: already hitting the pavement when it comes to baseball season. 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: The Welsh is back again to discuss some of these 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: gems that are floating out there that could be very 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: good values for your rotation. And our good friend joins us, 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: Paul Spore once again. It's so great to see him. 13 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: You know him from Sleeper in the Bus, from Fangrafts. 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: He also does all these starting pitcher profiles in the 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: Fantasy Baseball Black Book twenty twenty three available on Amazon 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: right now. Paul Sport, welcome to the show. And if 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, you could see the mustaches in 18 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: his full glory right now. And I want to know, 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: how is that? How is that teaching job of mechanical 20 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: drawing going at the middle. 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: School for you fantastically, haven't gotten fun? What's it? 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: Everyone? Go to the Indian now make sure you subscribe. 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: What's the end? No, there's is there more? 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 4: What is the game? It's been going for a while. 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 4: It's not going to get more? 26 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Are you trying to hide your spitball? 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: Like? 28 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: I don't like it's it's growing long here? Is there 29 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: anything else going to be. 30 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: Attached to it? No, it's fine, leave it alone. 31 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: So I guess the question number two is is it 32 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: like an oil treatment kind of thing, like a wax thing. 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: No, I like a little bit. 34 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I kind of I keep it, I 35 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 4: keep it trimmed. I I use you know, I use 36 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: some lotion, but not like not actual beard lotion. And 37 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: I just have like a dry face in the winter, 38 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: so I get all over everywhere. 39 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: So you know, I think you're onto something. I think 40 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: that's you know, when he goes out there and pitches 41 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 1: in that over thirty Baseball league is in it's a 42 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: little place to hide some of the extra stuff to 43 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: get a little bit more there, and yeah, yeah he's not. 44 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: You can't keep going to his hat and just you know, 45 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: doing the tip at the top. 46 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: Looking for that wear so much chapstick too. 47 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: You're you're a twitch superstar. We all know we're the 48 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: best pitching minds out there in fans, and we're happy 49 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: to have you kind of dissect this group of pictures 50 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: with us. So the boys of each provided five pictures 51 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: to fit this sort of range we're talking about the 52 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: sps from SP twenty to SP fifty. Those are kind 53 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: of the guys that we've targeted. And if you want 54 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: to work on players to target yourself, make sure you 55 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: go ahead and check out our MLB Draft Kit. It's 56 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: available right now, the Fantasy Baseball Draftkit at fantasypros dot com, 57 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Slash Draftkit. We've got cheat sheets, projections, draft prep articles, 58 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: position primers, We've got everything and it's free. 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Sport, you are the guest today. 67 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: Give me the first picture that when you're looking in 68 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: this range, between the twenty and fifty range, you think 69 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: is possibly being undervalued in fantasy baseball in twenty twenty three. 70 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of times it's tough to buy 71 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 4: into somebody that just broke out. Usually you kind of 72 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 4: want to fade. That's the general strategy that's going to work. 73 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: What goes up must come down, as a strong baseball principle, 74 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: but I think there's still some net value in Kyle 75 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: Wright at SP thirty two. I really believe in what 76 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 4: he did last year. Again, this was a premium prospect. 77 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: I put stock into things like pedigree. Some don't, some do. Hey, 78 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 4: wherever you're at on that, that's up to you, but 79 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: I do so when he broke out, I kind of 80 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 4: believed early. I had him early as a sub in 81 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 4: one league before he did anything, which so I got 82 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: lucky there. I'm not going to pretend I knew he 83 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: was going to break out like that, but then I 84 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: jumped on him in a couple other leagues when he'd 85 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 4: already had a few starts going because I said, hey, 86 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 4: this is what number five overall pick several years ago. 87 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: Atlanta is a team that I kind of trust when 88 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: they're developing prospects, and he really popped off. He hadn't 89 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 4: really had any major league time of note. It was 90 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: all bad, but it was so scant that I didn't 91 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: think cale Wright could really be judged off of it. 92 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: Spread out over four years. It was like sixty seventy 93 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 4: innings one hundred and eighty innings last year. Twenty four 94 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 4: percent k rate, eight percent walk rate, twelve percent swinging strike. 95 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: That's a core foundation of missing bats and not walking 96 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: too many guys that I can really believe in. Sub 97 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: one homer per nine, great team support. Not gonna win 98 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,239 Speaker 4: twenty one again, doesn't need to. I think SP thirty 99 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 4: two is a perfectly fair price. I think we get 100 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: a pretty close to repeat. Bump the ra up a 101 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: little bit from the three nineteen to three point fifty, 102 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: bump the whip up a few points to from one 103 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 4: sixteen to like one to eighteen. 104 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: That's a great play. I really like Kyle right at 105 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: s P thirty two. 106 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, cutting the walk rate from fourteen point three to 107 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: seven point two, raising the K from seventeen to twenty three. 108 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 1: That's certainly the secret softs here for Kyle Wright. Twenty 109 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: one games last year. You don't see a lot of 110 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: guys wait twenty games anymore. You just don't see it. 111 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: So I think that also speaks to you know, I 112 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: mean not only the Braves being a good offensive defensive team, 113 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: but also the Braves being a spot where Kyle Wright 114 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: is showing you you know where to find the outs 115 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: in lineups, the art of pitching, which is sometimes lost. 116 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: I think that's something when you watch him pitch, you're 117 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of seeing him, you know. 118 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 3: What's interesting about him too. He's one of those guys 119 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 3: that you had this big, major breakout that he obviously 120 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 3: boosted up in value, but you kind of still feel 121 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 3: like he's kind of a deal. He is still a 122 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 3: deal with right, Like, yeah, they didn't boost. 123 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: Him to the hill like a lot of times because. 124 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: He's not that dominant, Like he's not striking out two 125 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty guys. I think that's the thing people 126 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: was not sexy. 127 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: And it's the wins. 128 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: It's because of the wins too that people are saying 129 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 4: that's gonna fall off they're right, they're absolutely right, but 130 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 4: they're thinking that that because of that fall off, that 131 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 4: he's bad, and that's where we disagree. Not you and I, 132 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 4: but like with me in the market, I think Kyle 133 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: Wright will be fine giving back wins. But like you said, 134 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: six plus innings, eleven starts, six or six or more 135 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 4: so at the sixth baseline there twenty one out of 136 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 4: thirty starts. That's fantastic under five just three times one. 137 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 4: Slacking at Oakland was I mean, that's hilarious. That's baseball 138 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 4: just being a cruel mistress. But yeah, I'm big. I'm 139 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: big into Kyle right all right. 140 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: He is number three, thirty two here on the sp 141 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: list in terms of ADP. Number thirty three is the 142 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: guy that Welsh wants to talk about. Who is it. 143 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with a young guy that has 144 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: not done the big breakout like sports talking about with 145 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: Kyle Wright and going on. Young pitchers sometimes can be dicey, 146 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: but when you get hardcore command type of pitchers, there's 147 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: a safety net that's put in there, and that's why 148 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 3: I'm going with George Kirby in here. George Kirby, who 149 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: is thirty three on the fantasy pros ADP based off 150 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 3: of a few of the sites they've got right now, 151 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: going outside the top one hundred on a great team 152 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 3: for context, a defense that's going to get behind him. 153 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: It was interesting. 154 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: I was looking at this. Our mutual friend Inosaris is 155 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 3: putting together a projection. This just happened to come out today, 156 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: just inciding with this, and I put his name on 157 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 3: here a projection for his location plus and stuff plus 158 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 3: and George Kirby had I believe the ninth highest projected 159 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: location plus in all of baseball for this coming year, 160 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: Aaron Nola being number one. And what that tells you 161 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 3: is couple things. It tells you this is a guy 162 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: with a multitude of double digit usage pitches that he 163 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 3: can put through the zone. Strikeouts are not insane. I 164 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: think he was just under twenty five percent K percentage. 165 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: He doesn't walk though, under five percent K percentage or 166 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: walk percentage. But that location plus can get you into 167 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 3: strikeouts and can get you into just inducing more ground balls, 168 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 3: which I like, being able to maintain the zone. So 169 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: a guy like George Kirby, he had a thirty percent 170 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: K percentage on his forcing fastball, He's just one of 171 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 3: those guys that with that command, those secondaries can set up, 172 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 3: which is a big, powerful fastball. I saw him coming 173 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: off of the COVID year at the Texas facility where 174 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 3: he was pumping one oh one. So this is a 175 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 3: guy where you know, Logan Gilbert is fantastic, Luis Castillo 176 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: is going to get the pub, but George Kirby really 177 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: has an opportunity to sneak in into the team's wins, 178 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: and if he gets the innings going, might be able 179 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: to pump in higher on the strikeouts. I just think 180 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 3: there's a good floor and ceiling with George Kirby that 181 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: I don't take it upon him that he couldn't be 182 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 3: a top fifteen SPN baseball based on those command numbers. 183 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: So post thirty, I think George Kirby is kind of undervalued. 184 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 4: CO sign all that, Yeah, I sign all that on Kirby. 185 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: I really like him. 186 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: One place where I maybe have been disagreeing a little 187 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: bit with the market and I almost considered putting his 188 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: teammate on here is I think there's been some pushback 189 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: on Logan Gilbert that I don't necessarily agree with. I 190 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 4: like him too, but I understand the Kirby love and 191 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 4: I have pushed Kirby over Gilbert, but I like both. 192 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: And you know, we were making jokes on pitchcin about 193 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: how they got that dog in them, but I think 194 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: both these guys are that bulldog type, which is a 195 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: nebulous thing. You can't really quantify it. It doesn't mean a 196 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,599 Speaker 4: whole lot, but when you watch it, you kind of 197 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 4: get it. And what it is for me is like 198 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: that command guy that can grind out the extraining when 199 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 4: you need it right. If he's on his off day 200 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 4: where normally you might go three or four because he's bad, 201 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 4: he gets you to five, and if he's on his 202 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 4: good day, he goes from six to eight. And it's 203 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 4: just it's that command that can get you there because 204 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 4: you're not wasting the extra pitches. And I really really 205 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 4: love where George Kirby's at, So that was a good pick. 206 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: Welsh, thank you. 207 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: When I was hosting the pitch Com panel between Nick 208 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: Pollock and you know, we discussed logan Gilbert versus Kirby 209 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: because the're going basically sort of back to back in ADP, 210 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: and to a man, both of them were very much 211 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: on the Kirby side, not only for this year but 212 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: also long term as well. I was referencing, Yeah, I 213 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: mean so it seems like, well, I thought that, oh 214 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: the one that I was, I thought, when you were 215 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: talking about it, that's right. We were there watching and 216 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: there was a lot of time. 217 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 4: There was a lot of talk about those two across 218 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 4: pitch Gun, but I was specifically referencing y'all they you 219 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 4: know again, they made good points about Gilbert and some 220 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 4: of the issues that that he has. But I don't 221 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: believe he's done. I believe he has more to him 222 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 4: as well. But I do think Kirby has the highest seieling. 223 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: I am on the Kirby train as well. 224 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm good with both of them, but I think that 225 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: we're all seeing that extra thing in Kirby where maybe 226 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: he has that that higher ceiling potentially that maybe also 227 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: doesn't quite have. 228 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 3: Gilbert is fascinating. He's one of the hardest workers I've 229 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 3: ever seen in my life. I see him down at 230 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: the Mariners Complex. He is the last pitcher every single 231 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 3: time working out. But like Sport said, he's a bulldog. 232 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: He pumps, he pounds his with four pitches that he 233 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 3: commands decently. The thing that's interesting more about Kirby is 234 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: Kirby's stuff is think it's a little bit more deceptive 235 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: and a little bit more devastating for hitters with that 236 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: command as well. I don't know if he is quite 237 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: at the level of pumping like Gilbert does, but they're 238 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: both really good, and they're both really good complimentary pitchers. 239 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 3: Mayors have the potential to have like three great fantasy 240 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 3: assets on the pitching side, which I don't remember the 241 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: last time we've talked about that, and Kirby just happens 242 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 3: to be the bottom barrel as far as I think, 243 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: ADP goes of all these guys. 244 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 4: And if Ray bounces back, I've never been a huge 245 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: Ray guy, right, I wasn't thinking about Ray. I was 246 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: thinking about Ray to throw him in the trash like 247 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 4: he gets a billion k's. That is fantasy, Relewan. They 248 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: can have four guys that are ten team mixed and 249 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 4: up viable, which is hard. 250 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: To have in a Roads are going to be a 251 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: good team this year, folks. 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Let's go to the next guy on Paul's list. 283 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: Let's talk about strikeouts. This guy's got him for days, 284 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: He's got a little bit more of that pitchability. It's 285 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: Hunter Green. Let's talk about at Green right now. He 286 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: is at SP thirty five overall, Kirby by the way, 287 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: SB thirty three, so we're still in that thirty range. 288 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: So talk to me about Hunter Green, Paul. 289 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: And that's where you know, underrated seems weird to put 290 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: with a young guy that's on the right. So I 291 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 4: got another guy like that coming up where it's like underrated, Really, 292 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 4: this guy seems like he's overrated perhaps, but I love 293 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 4: the upside of Hunter Green and when you're looking in 294 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 4: that twenty to fifty range and you're really trying to 295 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: spike the big golden lottery ticket, you know, I do 296 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 4: think Hunt Green to somebody that could do that. Don't 297 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: put too much weight on the six starts in the 298 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 4: second half. It's six starts, but it gave you a 299 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 4: glimpse of what could be when he finds command it's 300 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,599 Speaker 4: over and he's one of these guys that needs to 301 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: learn to just trust his stuff in the zone. Just 302 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 4: pump the zone. Yes, your park is scary. Yes, you'll 303 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 4: probably give up some homers on pitches where somebody will 304 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 4: turn around your one hundred mile an hour heater and 305 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 4: you're like, really, that number seven clown second basement turned 306 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 4: around by one hundred. It happens sometimes. I watched erl 307 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: Ender throughout his entire career when he was young. It 308 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 4: used to bother him so much. When he got older 309 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: and it was a solo shot to make it four 310 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: to one instead of four nothing, he soft it off 311 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: and did not care because he wasn't going to walk 312 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: the number seven guy to get to the number eight 313 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 4: and then create a funnel where you're turning over the 314 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 4: lineup and now you've lost the game, and that stuff 315 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 4: happens so fast it can jump on you. I don't 316 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 4: know if Green is one hundred percent ready to be 317 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 4: that guy this year, but I'm willing to take the 318 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 4: chance at sp thirty five because in ten to twelve 319 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: teen leagues I'm going to have a waverpool that i 320 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: can lean on in case it doesn't work. But I 321 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: want that rich upside when you're you're in those league formats, 322 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 4: you're trying to spike big. You don't want the boring 323 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 4: as much. You can have some stabilizing boring, but you 324 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 4: want the guys that can pop. You want the guy 325 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 4: to be the next Spencer Strider, the next huge breakout 326 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: Hunter Green can be that. We've seen it in glimpses. 327 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: He throws hard, he's got nasty stuff. Yes, the park 328 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: is scary. 329 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: But I trust him. I really do. 330 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 4: At this price right now, And the reason it's underrated 331 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: right now, based on when we're doing this February seventh, 332 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: is because the price is going to go up. I 333 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: will bet so much money on a barring injury, of course, 334 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: but the price will go up. So if you do 335 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 4: like Hunter Green, and you want to get a lot 336 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 4: this year, you should probably get in some of the 337 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: earlier drafts because I think once he's in spring and 338 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 4: cooking and everyone's kind of seeing and getting excited, could 339 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: be an sp top twenty five. 340 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 3: By then I almost a great pick. I almost put 341 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 3: him on that list. That slighter usage change was so 342 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: critical for him to be able to keep guys off 343 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: the fastball. It was a game changer. I still like 344 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 3: Nick Lidolo's slightly better based off of like yeah, like 345 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: based off of like George Kirby's type of things, better 346 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: command strike out to walk. The ratio the four or 347 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: five slots down early season interesting when there was only 348 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: one projection system and Steamer gets a little bit wild. 349 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: But Steamer, uh, those were the only two pictures outside 350 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: the top one hundred and eighty p I believe that 351 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: were projected for two hundred plus strikeouts. We're like twenty 352 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: one pictures projected out that that was on Steamer early 353 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 3: in the year. Obviously that's changed, but Hunter Green is 354 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: like a little bit volatile. I have found myself in 355 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: some drafts taking Green over Lodolo in points based ones 356 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: where I'm looking for a little bit more punch on 357 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: the strikeout. So it Green's a really really good one. 358 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, she's the next guy on your list, 359 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: the top five underrated sps. 360 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go with the guy that I get 361 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: attached to a lot just simply because of the impersonation. 362 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 3: But I'm gonna go Blake Snell. I obviously, I like 363 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: like Snell for a lot of different reasons. I like 364 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: him for his voice and the impression I get to get. 365 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: Paul told me Jet to tell you this, Joe. Paul 366 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: told me he's gonna tell on me. He's gonna tell 367 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: Snell about my impression. 368 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: I can't believe you do it. 369 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: He'shl talking about Bill. He's hilarious. He's hilarious, but he's 370 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: also a really good pitcher. If you guys don't realize 371 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 3: outside of that, he's really been attached to a lot 372 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: of this change up nonsense. That's been crazy. But you 373 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: go and look at last year. Last year, first half 374 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 3: of the season, five point two two ERA stanks, second 375 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 3: half two point one nine ERA, over one hundred strikeouts 376 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: in seventy eight innings to end out the second half 377 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: of the year. He also was top eight percent in 378 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: baseball as far as as far as K percentage goes 379 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: in general, in that first to second half, check this 380 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 3: out his K minus walk percentage to take the strikeouts 381 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: in the walks percentage in minus amount fifteen point six 382 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: in the first half, twenty seven point three in the 383 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: second half. That's a two percent higher strikeout minus walk 384 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 3: than George Kirby's total K percentage was last year, not 385 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: even counting walks. And so like Snell's just he's got 386 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: the elite stuff that he battles himself in year, which 387 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: I worry about a little bit. But great team context, 388 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: not great divisionally for the rest of the guys. Good 389 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 3: for him, Rockies, Diamondbacks for extra wins. I think you 390 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: can get teams wins in on it. I think the 391 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: strikeouts are going to come back up. I think he 392 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: could push two hundred. The big question is always can 393 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: he go deeper into games As he's moving further in 394 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 3: his career. I think he is going to get and 395 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 3: break that curse a little bit, and we'll see what 396 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,959 Speaker 3: he does with the change up and Nick Pollock can 397 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 3: take a breath, mo Man Blake Snell thirty seven in 398 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: a row, thirty seven ADP right now, this is even 399 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: cheaper than Kirby. Give me Kirby and Snell is like 400 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: sp four and five or three and four all day long. 401 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: I'll take combo. 402 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 4: I like that combo a lot when you're talking about 403 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 4: Kirby and Snell because the way they compliment each other, right, 404 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: you get your big ks and you know the super 405 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 4: high upside with Snell. You get more of your volume 406 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 4: with Kirby because I think he's a great shot to 407 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: go two hundred plus this year and you kind of 408 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 4: can think about combining the two. And that's just a 409 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 4: monster of a pitcher. So Snell's a badass. Love him, 410 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 4: root for him big time, and I hope he has 411 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: a huge season and really started going six innings more 412 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 4: often in that second half breakout too. And you look 413 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: at it, eleven of his twenty four starts almost half 414 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 4: when exactly six innings or when six innings or more. 415 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: He did go seven a couple times, and then over 416 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 4: five innings in fourteen of them. So we're really looking 417 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 4: to get him into that consistent six plus for Snell. 418 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 4: And he took a step forward last year and look, 419 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 4: he's still only going to be thirty, right he's not 420 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 4: an old pitcher. Pitchers are great when they're in their 421 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: late twenties early thirties like that, that's where the aces 422 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 4: really come from. There might be another level here to 423 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: kind of get back to the twenty eighteen level with 424 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 4: a better volume. I would not even be surprised as 425 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 4: he kind of figures things out, learns how to pitch, 426 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 4: and tones down some of those high pitch count innings. 427 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: If Snell sets still has a career high innings in 428 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 4: him one hundred and eighty point two during the cy Young, 429 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if there's a Buck ninety 430 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 4: in there at some point this year. 431 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 2: But I do believe in him a lot. 432 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: And if he does, it's two hundred plus strikeouts and 433 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: it's game over. Yeah, it's an easy I mean that's 434 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 3: probably two twenty to two thirty on the strikeouts, and 435 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: you know, just coming back, it's a cheap thing. But 436 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: it's like the team context of wins. Think of that 437 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: offense that's gonna be behind him in many Machado and 438 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 3: Todd Patterson one, so that does matter. That might get 439 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 3: you and pick you up a couple more wins. It's 440 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: also pretty good defensively as well. No one's going Are 441 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 3: you gonna be shocked if Blake's now has fifteen wins 442 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: with two hundred and twenty five strikeouts in a single season. No, 443 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 3: the only reason it would be is because he doesn't 444 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: go six. So I'm in now. 445 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's getting better though. 446 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Next guy on the list here sp twenty one off 447 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: the board just cuts the cut. Basically, he's just right there, right. 448 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: The cut line. 449 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: And Paul Sport is probably the guy I'm most excited 450 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: about in twenty twenty three. It's Christian Hobber or the 451 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Houston Astros. So yeah, obviously flashed some moments last year 452 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: of brilliance. We gotta have some questions about, you know, 453 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: what's the work look gonna be, how's that going to look? 454 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: Is he getting the guys a five hting pitcher, all 455 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: of that? But what do you see in terms of 456 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: the upside? And you know, is twenty one. I ask 457 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: the question is it still undervalued? Because that's pushing this 458 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: limit here it is, and. 459 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 4: It is pushing it up again. It's kind of like 460 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 4: the green one where you're like, wait, undervalued, don't you 461 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: mean overvalued? 462 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 2: No? 463 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 4: I mean undervalue because again if you're if you're in 464 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: a shallow or format ten to twelve where the waverpool 465 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 4: is more more robust, you're looking for the guys that 466 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 4: can be your next Spencer Strider, and he is the 467 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 4: easy comp there. Kristin Xavier is because of the two 468 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: pitch dominance on a great team right Houston instead of 469 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 4: Atlanta with his two pitches. And he is brilliant, he 470 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 4: absolutely is. And you talk about always he a five 471 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 4: and dive kind of guy. Eleven starts of six plus innings, 472 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 4: that's going to play and consistently at least at that 473 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 4: five too. What you really want to avoid when you 474 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 4: got a five and dive. The scary thing about them 475 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: is a lot of fours, four and two thirds. They 476 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 4: can't quite get over the hump to get you in 477 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 4: that win situation. Drew Rasmussen am looking your way, buddy, 478 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: Not that it's your follies on the rays. That's what 479 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 4: happens sometimes. But with Javier, he got five plus in 480 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,160 Speaker 4: twenty one of the thirty starts or excuse me, twenty 481 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 4: five starts. He had five relief appearances, so I'm not 482 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 4: as worried about that with him. And like I said, 483 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 4: he showed that he could go six plus pretty consistently too. 484 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 4: I understand the concern with a two pitch guy. We've 485 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 4: talked about it for years. It's kind of a known thing. 486 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: Do they have that third pitch? We're starting to see 487 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 4: some guys that if they're two pitches, you know, on 488 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 4: the twenty eighty scale, are seventy grade or sixty five grade, 489 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 4: then you don't necessarily need the third Stryder's shown it. 490 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: I think Strider has two seventy seventy five plus pitches 491 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 4: grade pitches like it's insane what he's got. And Javier 492 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 4: is right there, and I do think that he's kind 493 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 4: of the Strider comp And if you like Streider and 494 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 4: you are a little bit afraid of paying the premium 495 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 4: on him, where is Spencer? Strider sp probably five seventy six, 496 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: and say you're a little bit nervous about paying that, 497 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 4: Javier is the guy you get and to get this 498 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 4: basically the same thing, right, you can't get your Louis Vuitton. 499 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 4: So you want to go to Target and get something cool. 500 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 4: It's not quite Target, maybybe whatever the step down from 501 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: Louis Vuitton, but like I think should have here as 502 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 4: that dude, and I think he's awesome, and they clearly 503 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 4: are going to be trusting him in Houston, and so 504 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 4: I think you can have another massive season. I fully 505 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: believe in him, and I do think for what we're 506 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 4: looking at here, SP twenty one is a little bit 507 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: undervalued because he can easily be a top ten guy. 508 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: I want him on all my teams. 509 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, me so, Now, Welsh, it's not all about all 510 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: the young guys necessarily. Sometimes in the old farts get 511 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: a little undervalued and underappreciated too, like the three of us. 512 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: So next on your list. 513 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: Is who Welsh? 514 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to go with an old fart who 515 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 3: By the way, I am older than I just realized. 516 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: I'm like, I am six months older than this guy. 517 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: M F. The ARP card. I believe it's in the old. 518 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: Fart range, unfortunately, but I think this is another one 519 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 3: of those core pieces I want as part of my rotation. 520 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: It's Charlie Morton. Charlie Morton. Jonah Mountain has got a 521 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: forty nine eighty p in drafts right now now. Also 522 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 3: his age, yeah exactly didn't have a great r R. 523 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: Are you older than him too, Joe, Joe? 524 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: I think you're the oldest here, definitely, but still the 525 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: different things you can't tell because I look exactly the same. 526 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: I'm actually the prospect here. I'm the baby. I'm the 527 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 3: youngest of all of you guys, and I know he. 528 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: Looks the oldest. 529 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 2: I feel you do. 530 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: And it's not even that you will Gold, It's that 531 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 4: you're dealing with Benjamin Budden over here and baby face Joe. 532 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 3: So yeah, I used to have a baby face. I 533 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 3: used to continue continue on Charlie Morton, My big deal 534 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 3: with Charlie Morton. Not the best era. But what might 535 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: surprised you his SIERRA this year was actually the lowest 536 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 3: he's had in like eight seasons. There's also a guy 537 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: that has had four straight I'm not counting twenty twenty 538 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 3: because it was a full season, four straight complete seasons 539 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 3: of two hundred plus strikeouts. He's still putting up their past. 540 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: Also on the upper echelon a fastball. There's an amazing 541 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 3: team context, and he's doing the strikeouts, by the way, 542 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 3: with only reaching one hundred and ninety innings once of 543 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 3: those four seasons that I talked about one time, he 544 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 3: did it in twenty eighteen with the Astros. In one 545 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty. So, yes, he's getting older. The strikeouts 546 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 3: are still there, the Sierra was better than it had been. 547 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 3: The fastball velocity is still up there, and you're on 548 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 3: a Braves team, which if you get enough innings you 549 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: can obviously didn't get it last year, but you can 550 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 3: put the context of twelve to thirteen plus strikeouts. I 551 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 3: don't think this is like top twenty sp but how 552 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: often are you going to find cheap two hundred plus 553 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: strikeouts in drafts? I think maybe Charlie Morton was the 554 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: other guy where you're looking at Hunter Green in them. 555 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 3: He's not young and sexy like those guys, but he 556 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: eats up innings, he gets strikeouts, and he maintains it 557 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 3: where there's a great defense and an even better offense 558 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 3: around them next year. So gim me Charlie Morton on 559 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: all my drafts. I think he's criminal. 560 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: Cost you much to get him. That's salary one because 561 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: of the age. Yeah, you know, if I forget the 562 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: ADP when we're talking about salary cap drafts, you know 563 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: how that changes dramatically. You know, Hunter Green, he upside 564 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: all those things you talk about. But you know Paul 565 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: and we're looking at a player of the advanced age 566 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: of Charlie Morton. Statistically speaking, Hey, there's an opportunity here 567 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: for him to be close to whatever Hunter Green is 568 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: numbers a price, even though going similar in snake drafts close, 569 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: He's definitely wanted to be close. 570 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 3: You got to have a couple of these guys occasionally, 571 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: like you, like, we can have all the sexy dudes, Hey, 572 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 3: Cot Hunter Green and Nicolodolo. Let's get all these guys. Hey, 573 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: you want to Grace Rodriguez. You have to have some 574 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,440 Speaker 3: core pieces that are gonna not completely. 575 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 2: They've already done it. You gotta get risk. 576 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: But I'll even take risks with like Jacob to grom 577 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 3: which no one else will. You have to have guys 578 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 3: like Charlie Morton that will eat innings, get strikeouts, get 579 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 3: you wins. They're boring. You just have to have a 580 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: couple of these players to piece in there. And I 581 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 3: think he's like the prime one. 582 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got the proverbial pelts on the wall. 583 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: He's done it several times. 584 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,360 Speaker 4: You bring out the great point about the four years 585 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 4: in a row with two hundred plus k's for Charlie 586 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 4: Morton totally agree about. If you're playing in Zari cap, 587 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 4: he's not gonna cost you a ton. Sometimes you want 588 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 4: to leverage the agism of fantasy baseball. 589 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: We are very ageists. It makes sense. 590 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 4: Agent curves matter, and father time is undefeated etta cliche cliche, 591 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 4: but sometimes there's unicorns and you leverage that. Leveraged it 592 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,719 Speaker 4: last year with Verlander, Oh god, thirty eight year old 593 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 4: coming back from TJ. 594 00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 2: He's my favorite player. 595 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: So, like my bias helped me, there not necessarily any 596 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: sort of great. 597 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: Creature of the choir here. I was a twenty five 598 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: to one guy on the MVP on the SI Young 599 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: rather for verlind. 600 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: Or, so going to go for it. 601 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, Morton's another one of those guys. And I 602 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 4: think a lot of his issue actually with that four 603 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 4: thirty four era was inconsistency, not the beginning of the end. 604 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 4: I really think he's gonna tweak, figure it out, get 605 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: back under four and have a hell hell of a season. 606 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: I think the next guy on your list, Paul, really 607 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: falls under that that Moniker. Two of guys who get 608 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: really underappreciated and just kind of float under the waiver. 609 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: Why not the wave works, you can float under the 610 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: wire a little bit for people where they just you know, 611 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: don't really appreciate that Logan Webb is just a solid 612 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: major league pitcher. And that's a good thing. When you're 613 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: looking for somebody's gonna take the ball every fifth day, 614 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna give you a pretty good start. And I 615 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: think that's something when you're looking at him going off 616 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: the board right now, he is the sp let's see 617 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: here twenty nine, which you know, honestly, I mean that 618 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: seems kind of right. But I feel like we talked 619 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: about Kirby, we talked about Hunter Green, like all those guys, 620 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: even Blake Snell, are all going after him. But I 621 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: feel like in some of the leagues that we're going 622 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: to be in the sharps that won't happen. 623 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 4: Logan web will go after those guys. So you've heard 624 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 4: Green'll push above him. Yeah, absolutely, And this is why 625 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 4: I like Logan Webb. And you know, I have been 626 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 4: talking up some of the guys that are a little 627 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: bit more of that high upside, and I still like 628 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: Webbing and shallow reformat though, even though he is kind 629 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 4: of that boring floor guy. Gave me that that piercing 630 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 4: volume of one hundred and ninety innings last year. I 631 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: think two hundred is in the tank for him for sure. 632 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 4: He's kind of a ground ball Matt Kaine. Remember Matt 633 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 4: Kain was a course for several years, just punched the ticket. 634 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 4: It's there. All of his like skill interactivevr acra as 635 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 4: Welsh cited earlier, FIP, all those they never really worked 636 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 4: with Matt Kain because of that flyball tendency in the 637 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 4: home runs that he gave up. But with Logan Webb, 638 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: they're there and you can see like his skills are there. 639 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 4: His strike how ray, did come down last year twenty 640 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: one percent from twenty seven. That's a big dip sure, 641 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 4: but his swinging strike rate only came down about two points, 642 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 4: which I think he can get that back and kind 643 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 4: of live more in that eleven and a half twelve 644 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 4: percent range, which means the strikeout rate can go back up. 645 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 4: It was ten point six last year. You guys know 646 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 4: the shorthand of doubling your swinging strike rate to give 647 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 4: you kind of an expected strikeout rate, So you probably 648 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 4: should have been closer to twenty one twenty two instead 649 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 4: of the twenty point seven, which I guess is twenty one, 650 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 4: so he was in range. But I do think that 651 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 4: he can miss enough bats. And here's another thing too, 652 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 4: With guys that don't miss a ton of bats, if 653 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 4: they get the volume, all you care about, unless you're 654 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 4: in a K nine league or strikeout percentageleague, is the volume. 655 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 4: He still had one hundred and sixty three strikeouts, which 656 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 4: is perfectly fine for your SP three SP four. I 657 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 4: like Logan Web Stadium protects him a bit. Fewer games 658 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: in Colorado too with the new switch, maybe even Dodger 659 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 4: Stadium too, you know, because they're not playing as many 660 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 4: divisional games, don't have to go into those two dangers 661 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: zones as much. Give me Logan Web as kind of 662 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: my solidifier, and then it makes me feel more comfortable 663 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 4: to go after the greens and the snails later on. 664 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk about the next on your 665 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: list too, because for straight years he looked like one 666 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: of the emerging fantasy studs, and then last year he 667 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: had an ERA of five. I'm talking about Lucas Giolito, 668 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: who is sitting right now at SP forty five. So 669 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: it seems like you're buying back in for twenty twenty three. 670 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: So I mean, could I have been more wrong last 671 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: year about my predictions with Lucasgilia on the bold predictions. 672 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't think you were the only one. I think 673 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: we all. I mean everything was trending in the right 674 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: direction for sure. 675 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 4: The body against him, I really anybody. 676 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 3: And that is why I don't have any tangible stuff 677 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you, except for one thing. Why 678 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: I'm buying back in is because he altered his delivery 679 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: last year. I know you guys'll remember he did this 680 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: thing where his extension, he kept his arm inside his body, 681 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: and then he kind of exploded that was his change 682 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 3: fell apart, and he acknowledged it. I was watching an 683 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 3: off season interview I think I might have done with 684 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 3: the MLB Network where he talked about how that was 685 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: a failure and he recognized that he did some off 686 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: season work. They figured out how to get the extension back, 687 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: and he's kind of back to that normal longer not 688 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 3: holding the arm in and outer extension. So my whole 689 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: point to this is he makes a pretty concerted change 690 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: and it decimated everything a with percentage I'm looking here, 691 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 3: almost four percent or more lost on every single pitch 692 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: as far as his wifth percentage goes from last season, 693 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna just take it back to like you 694 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 3: said right at the top, this was one of those 695 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: emerging guys. His K percentage had dipped a little bit 696 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 3: two years ago. It was thirty three point seven, it 697 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 3: was twenty eight in twenty twenty one, but it dropped 698 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: down to twenty five point four. His walks went up. 699 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: If I just take back the picture I had before, 700 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 3: I get a higher with percentage, ks come back up, 701 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 3: walks come back down. I think he is at the 702 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: all time low. I don't think people know what the 703 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: hell to do with him at this point. And listen 704 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: at eightyp forty five post one point fifty overall drafting, 705 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just do the buyback on Lucas Gildo. I'm 706 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: gotta be careful about my team construction, but I think 707 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 3: this is a really really smart analytical pitcher who looks 708 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: at himself and understand the fall apart last year that 709 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: he can get back to where he was. So there's 710 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 3: really nothing technical from last year that's gonna side on 711 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: for me here that I simply got to say, like 712 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 3: this change in his delivery will get him back, and 713 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 3: that's what I'm going to. 714 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Bet on it's keeper dynasty leagues. I'd be buying everywhere 715 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: right now too, because three great years from Lucas Sheilo. 716 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: I know twenty twenty was a shortened season at all, 717 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: but he was great then too. I'm with you. I 718 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: think it's time to buy back in. I think it's 719 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: a fascinating discount. I mean, is the sp forty five 720 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: off the board. It's not a lot of guys out 721 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: there that have some of the seasons that he's got 722 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: under his belt already. 723 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 3: Seventy eight eight is the average adyp right of him. 724 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: That's really razy. I like that. Let's go to the 725 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: big boys here, the guy who's number one here on 726 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: the list for Paul Sport And this is a big 727 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: guy himself, just like Paul. Also tall, the tall drink 728 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: of water. Now, well, well that's debatable. Especially that's not debatable. 729 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: I mean silly and Murphy. It's silly and Murphy. Yeah, yeah, Just. 730 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: Like in that pitchcon conversation, this was another guy that 731 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: everybody's in the pitching fantasy world seems very high on 732 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. So you are also buying back 733 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: in the glass. Now, getting back to that elite version 734 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: of himself. 735 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: Getting to it. Let's be honest, right, let's getting to it. 736 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 4: Because he has all of one season over one hundred 737 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 4: and this was the guy I was referring to early 738 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 4: when I said, I'll have another guy that you're saying underrated, 739 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 4: don't you mean overrated? We're paying a huge premium. 740 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: For this guy. I get it. I totally get it. 741 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 4: And initially I pushed back against it back in October 742 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,719 Speaker 4: November when I was starting to see it push up, 743 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, where are. 744 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: They putting tyroglass now? 745 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 4: And I kind of looked a little deeper, and I'm like, well, 746 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 4: the thing of it is is, yes, the innings are 747 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 4: a problem. But one of the things I love to 748 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: talk about, kind of one of my fantasy ways of playing, 749 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: is if everything's in place but the health, I'm going 750 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 4: to take a guy and if I don't have to 751 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 4: worry about this has to go right, This has to 752 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 4: develop with the skill, this, that, and the other. If 753 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 4: it's just the health, I'm going to take the shot. 754 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 4: Why because we can't really predict hell that well. I 755 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 4: know Twerglass now has been in prone whatever you want 756 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 4: call it, for several years. 757 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: His whole career. 758 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 4: He has gotten hurt, but when he's out there, he's 759 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: brilliant and he's still one of the best potential pitchers 760 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 4: that you can get. And I'm willing to take the 761 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: shot at SP twenty seven that if I spike that year, 762 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 4: I'm not going to say I'm winning my league. No 763 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 4: one guy is going to do that. You know, not 764 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: every team with Judge won the league, and he had 765 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: one of the greatest seasons ever. But if I'm getting 766 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 4: him near near pick one hundred, I'm going to take 767 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 4: that shot. In NFBCTY it's ninety right now, in RTS 768 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 4: it's ninety nine. Give me that shot, because, again, similar 769 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 4: to what I say with Hunter Green, this is going 770 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: to go up. So if you believe in Glass now, 771 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 4: get some leagues now so you can get the cheaper version, 772 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: because you're going to pay way higher come spring. I'm 773 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 4: talking top twenty sps. And that's why I want to 774 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 4: specifically highlight that Glass now is underrated compared to where 775 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: he's going to be because it's good. The price is 776 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 4: only going to go up unless there's a scare for injury. 777 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: Of course, that's standard caveat, but he's just brilliant. He's 778 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: a wonderful pitcher. He's so so good. I really hope 779 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: he stays healthy for the game because when he's awesome, 780 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 4: when he's out there, it's a lot of fun. So 781 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 4: I'm going with Tyler Glass now, and I do think 782 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: he's a bit underrated right now, just because it's only 783 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 4: going to get more expensive. 784 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: I like Darbysh and Musgrove, who are ahead of him 785 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: still more. But you know guys like Framber Valdez who 786 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: I love frambournall. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big 787 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: Framberg guy. But he doesn't have the same skill set 788 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 1: necessarily that glasnow has. 789 00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 4: That's another take it though, Right, give me the volume 790 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,879 Speaker 4: of the boring volume, Framber, and then the upside kind 791 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 4: of a lottery ticket with the Glass now, let's be honest. 792 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,600 Speaker 2: Well, and then there's somebody like them. 793 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: I don't know where you are, Paul, but you know, 794 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: Welsh I've talked about quite a bit. Seems to be 795 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: the very in vogue thing to do, which is kind 796 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 1: of fading the very top of the boarder pitcher and 797 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: looking for a bunch of these guys because right now 798 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: they save a billion values. That's exactly the kind of 799 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 1: staff you want to build. I think those kind of 800 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 1: names and some of the names we're talking about Welsh, 801 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: who's that number one name that you're talking about. And 802 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a pass here. You know, 803 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: you're I know, twenty to fifty, you went to fifty 804 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: two and sorry, I. 805 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 3: Went even further away, went even further away. Helped if 806 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: I had the email. But I also mean, this is 807 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 3: also just one of my favorite pitchers this year that 808 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 3: I think is just undervalued in general, and it's Jeffrey Springs. 809 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 3: And I've talked about him a whole bunch, actually just 810 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 3: writing some stuff up on him. Interestingly enough, you know, 811 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 3: he had a really awesome two four six ERA last 812 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 3: year over one hundred and thirty five innings. I thought 813 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 3: this was fascinating. His SIERRA, which was three three two 814 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: if he had qualified on the innings, would have been 815 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 3: tied with Zach Gallon. He struck out one hundred and 816 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 3: forty four batters, had a nine to five eight K 817 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 3: per nine, which was a twenty six point two percent 818 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: K percentage. If that had qualified, that would have been 819 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 3: right below Zach Gallon and above you Darfish and a 820 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: couple of things I really loved about him. He made 821 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 3: some grip changes last year which saw a two inch 822 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: vertical movement change uh for his fastball, three inch vertical 823 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 3: movement change on his change up, and he saw a 824 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 3: two mile per hour increase on his slider. Like all 825 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: of these changes Spring Yeah, it is and it's made 826 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 3: really really big. I sometimes wonder if Springs might be 827 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 3: a similar version to like what we saw your passing, 828 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 3: like Corey Klueber. Remember Corey Kluber like a leader later 829 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 3: in his career kind of ended up becoming a dominant 830 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 3: pitcher that I think the changes he's. 831 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: Made by young award winner, I think can check this out. 832 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,439 Speaker 3: Here's the only thing that's holding him back. It's innings pitch. 833 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: Because he was kind of in him and jer Rasmusho 834 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 3: were using that like front end role. 835 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 4: They trusted him a little bit more, and now they 836 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 4: trusted Springs a bit more than Rasmussen, which really impressed me. 837 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 4: He got over one hundred once, he got over ninety 838 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 4: seven different times. I think they they let him go 839 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: a little bit more. I almost trust him more than Rasmussen. 840 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 4: I like the Springs call out. 841 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 3: Here and I would say this too. All projection systems 842 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: do not want to give him more. They want to 843 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 3: give him about one hundred and forty. They want to 844 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: repeat of last year. I present the idea that what 845 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 3: if he gets pushed to more of a normal pitcher 846 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: after last year and we get to one fifty or 847 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: one sixty, guess what we might be pushing two hundred strikecouts. 848 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: Rememb one hundred and sixty seven innings pitched for Charlie 849 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 3: Morton with the Astros in twenty eighteen got him two 850 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: hundred strikeouts. Jeffrey Springs, based off a lot of the 851 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 3: changes he's made and some of those K numbers he 852 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 3: pushed one sixty, one sixty five, you might get a 853 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 3: sneaky two hundred strikeouts out of him on a pretty 854 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,800 Speaker 3: good raised team, and he's dirt cheap. I went past 855 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 3: the barrier that Joe talked about. 856 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 2: I could have done too. Thank you very much. I'm 857 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 2: gonna give you Reid Detmer's love. Yeah. 858 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 4: I didn't see the twenty to fiftieth, so I was 859 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 4: just doing five guys, and so I had some guys 860 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 4: way out and they read DEBTMS as somebody that I 861 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 4: definitely love. But I co signed the Springs one. You know, Uh, 862 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 4: he came out to go out of pride in what 863 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 4: he was able to do. Had a big season, and 864 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 4: again I believe that the Rays kind of trusted. We 865 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 4: might over worry about the Rais sometimes. I think this 866 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 4: is not a closer episode. I think people are going 867 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 4: to over worry about Pete Fairbanks too. I think that 868 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 4: contract is going to get him into more of a 869 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 4: full time closers role and some of these Rays and 870 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 4: Glass now too. Time to take the kid gloves off. 871 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna have some guys that are actually 872 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 4: gonna push this year. When healthy, they will push some 873 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: guys Calame as a closer, David Price as a starter, 874 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 4: Snell for at least one year as a starter. They've 875 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 4: had James Shields when he was a workhorse. I think 876 00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: Jeffrey Springs could have one hundred and eighty innings this year. 877 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 2: Really do all right. 878 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: So the names on the board here the underrated sps 879 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: going in those mid early rounds. Welsh's List, George Kirby, 880 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,479 Speaker 1: Blake's now Charlie Morton, Lucas Giolito and Jeffrey Springs Sports List, 881 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Wright, Hunter Green, Christian Javier Logan Webb, and Tyler Glass. 882 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: Now all ten are all targets in all of your drafts, 883 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: so go check that out and as you're drafting, don't forget. 884 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: The draft kit is free right now Fantasy Bros dot 885 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 1: Com slast Draft Kit. Go check it out today and 886 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: start getting prepared. Of course, special thank you to Paul 887 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: Sporer for joining us day on the program. Go get 888 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: them follow on the Twitter machine at Sporer, Go watch 889 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: and play video games at Twitch, and check out his 890 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: mustache there as well. Paul, It's always great to talk 891 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: to you and have you on. Oh and check out 892 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: all of his pitcher profiles in the Fantasy Baseball Black 893 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: Book twenty twenty three on Amazon as well as all 894 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: Welsh's work on there too. Great stuff, boys. 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