1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host, Rashawn McDonald. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,380 Speaker 1: As you know, I recognize that we all have different 3 00:00:06,420 --> 00:00:08,790 Speaker 1: definitions of success. For you, it may be the size 4 00:00:08,810 --> 00:00:11,510 Speaker 1: of your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to develop a 5 00:00:11,570 --> 00:00:15,110 Speaker 1: plan to reach their dreams. It's time for you, that's right, you, 6 00:00:15,170 --> 00:00:18,150 Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success stories and start writing 7 00:00:18,190 --> 00:00:21,669 Speaker 1: your own. You can only exceed expectations by believing in yourself. 8 00:00:21,690 --> 00:00:24,090 Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat that again. You can only exceed 9 00:00:24,230 --> 00:00:28,150 Speaker 1: expectations by believing in yourself. People always talk about purpose 10 00:00:28,210 --> 00:00:30,330 Speaker 1: of gifts. If you have a gift, lead with your gifts. 11 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:32,130 Speaker 2: And now, know this. 12 00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:35,350 Speaker 1: Don't let your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from 13 00:00:35,470 --> 00:00:38,260 Speaker 1: planning or living your dreams. On this show, you know 14 00:00:38,270 --> 00:00:43,260 Speaker 1: I interview celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, and industry decision makers. And always, 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: always listen to what you have to say. My guest 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,900 Speaker 1: is Tamela Mann. She is a favorite on my show, 17 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:52,780 Speaker 1: and I'm always happy to have her back. She's a 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,110 Speaker 1: Grammy Award-winning gospel singer. And it's announced in the release 19 00:00:56,330 --> 00:01:00,580 Speaker 1: of the Overcomer Deluxe Edition. It will be available on 20 00:01:00,620 --> 00:01:05,580 Speaker 1: streaming platforms July 22nd. Singles says Billboard Gospel Airplay chart 21 00:01:05,620 --> 00:01:07,459 Speaker 1: track that we're going to talk about at the top 22 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,429 Speaker 1: of the show. He did it for me. Tamela is 23 00:01:10,490 --> 00:01:14,630 Speaker 1: a wife, mother, actress, and most importantly, a businesswoman with 24 00:01:14,670 --> 00:01:16,910 Speaker 1: an apparel line. We're going to talk about all these things. 25 00:01:17,510 --> 00:01:20,750 Speaker 1: She's the number one guest on my money-making conversation platform. 26 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,900 Speaker 1: So I'm always happy to have her back. Please welcome 27 00:01:24,940 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: to the show, Tamela Mann. 28 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: How you doing, Ms. Mann? 29 00:01:27,860 --> 00:01:30,540 Speaker 3: Good morning. I'm doing great. How about yourself? 30 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:33,060 Speaker 1: Well, you know, first of all, thank you for taking 31 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,990 Speaker 1: the time on your business schedule. Anything you want to 32 00:01:36,030 --> 00:01:38,430 Speaker 1: share before we get into the interview? Because you always 33 00:01:38,450 --> 00:01:41,130 Speaker 1: got something new. You always do breaking news on my show. 34 00:01:41,410 --> 00:01:42,610 Speaker 1: You know, anything breaking news? 35 00:01:42,630 --> 00:01:45,750 Speaker 3: I knew I had something. First of all, let me 36 00:01:45,850 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 3: thank you. Thank you guys for having me. 37 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,550 Speaker 4: And I'm so grateful for the opportunity to be able 38 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,230 Speaker 4: to share and to be able to spread the word 39 00:01:55,290 --> 00:01:57,630 Speaker 4: and to encourage other people that they. 40 00:01:57,510 --> 00:01:58,110 Speaker 3: Can do it too. 41 00:01:58,570 --> 00:02:00,450 Speaker 4: And then like he did it for me, but he 42 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 4: did it for you too. 43 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: And he can do it for you. 44 00:02:03,380 --> 00:02:06,780 Speaker 4: And I'm just really excited. You know, the clothing line, 45 00:02:06,820 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: I'm releasing a new shapewear. 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,410 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about that before we get into the song. 47 00:02:12,490 --> 00:02:14,390 Speaker 3: Okay, you said what I had new, so I was 48 00:02:14,490 --> 00:02:15,470 Speaker 3: giving it to you. 49 00:02:15,490 --> 00:02:17,030 Speaker 2: Yeah, because we're going into summer. 50 00:02:17,070 --> 00:02:20,829 Speaker 1: I was out there shopping for some little separates. So 51 00:02:21,530 --> 00:02:25,130 Speaker 1: I realized that that's one of the most purchased. You 52 00:02:25,180 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: can get suits, you can get dresses, but separates and 53 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,340 Speaker 1: casual apparel is the number one sellers out there. 54 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 2: Fill us in on the details, Tamela. 55 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: Well, the detail, well, the. 56 00:02:36,150 --> 00:02:41,209 Speaker 4: Details on that is actually, shapewear is actually one of 57 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 4: the number one sellers, period, on the platform out there 58 00:02:47,580 --> 00:02:48,460 Speaker 4: for women. 59 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 5: Right. 60 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:50,580 Speaker 3: Because everybody's always wanting. 61 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,700 Speaker 4: To be nicely shaped up and, you know, it just 62 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:55,650 Speaker 4: looks nice. It makes you look nice in your clothes. 63 00:02:55,870 --> 00:02:56,050 Speaker 5: Right. 64 00:02:56,090 --> 00:02:57,970 Speaker 3: So our shapewear is our prime item. 65 00:02:58,330 --> 00:03:01,329 Speaker 4: Thing that we have for this summer that we're releasing 66 00:03:02,010 --> 00:03:04,690 Speaker 4: uh this coming week so i'm just encouraging the ladies 67 00:03:05,290 --> 00:03:07,220 Speaker 4: sizes from uh hey you know. 68 00:03:07,100 --> 00:03:08,740 Speaker 3: We go from 12 to 32. 69 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: Yes ma'am but we have so. 70 00:03:10,860 --> 00:03:13,820 Speaker 4: So you just just say just go to tamiland.com check 71 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: it out check out the screen to make sure for. 72 00:03:16,340 --> 00:03:18,889 Speaker 3: Your size Right. And go from there. 73 00:03:18,930 --> 00:03:22,010 Speaker 4: But I'm just excited about it because everybody been asking me. 74 00:03:22,070 --> 00:03:25,210 Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm getting it out there. So y'all 75 00:03:25,230 --> 00:03:27,530 Speaker 3: do what y'all do. Come on now. Let's do this. 76 00:03:27,750 --> 00:03:29,930 Speaker 1: Well, you know, Tom, just watching you grow, you know, 77 00:03:29,950 --> 00:03:33,620 Speaker 1: just watching you grow as a person, as a businesswoman, 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,380 Speaker 1: you know, and a spokeswoman, a spokesperson, you know, you know. 79 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: So so how is that, you know, when people come 80 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: to you now, like, you know, because I know it's 81 00:03:42,620 --> 00:03:46,580 Speaker 1: a little shyness when you're talking about your shapewear. but 82 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:49,860 Speaker 1: it's part of the crown that you wear now. You know, 83 00:03:50,180 --> 00:03:53,790 Speaker 1: how are you, if you give people advice about expectations 84 00:03:53,850 --> 00:03:56,610 Speaker 1: and also living up to the expectation, how do you 85 00:03:56,650 --> 00:03:57,150 Speaker 1: handle that? 86 00:03:58,450 --> 00:04:03,210 Speaker 4: You know, it can sometimes feel a little heavy. Like 87 00:04:03,230 --> 00:04:05,750 Speaker 4: you can feel the heaviness of people like watching you 88 00:04:06,210 --> 00:04:07,070 Speaker 4: and things like that. 89 00:04:07,410 --> 00:04:08,970 Speaker 3: But the only thing I can do, I can be 90 00:04:09,010 --> 00:04:10,150 Speaker 3: the best me that I can be. 91 00:04:10,590 --> 00:04:13,370 Speaker 4: I can just share the knowledge that I have. 92 00:04:13,850 --> 00:04:14,970 Speaker 3: And when it comes to. 93 00:04:16,940 --> 00:04:19,370 Speaker 4: Health and wellness you know to me it's been a 94 00:04:19,410 --> 00:04:22,169 Speaker 4: struggle with that part and I just let people in 95 00:04:22,210 --> 00:04:24,810 Speaker 4: that you know I'm working on it working with it 96 00:04:25,430 --> 00:04:27,950 Speaker 4: and I'm just whatever somebody can give me to encourage 97 00:04:27,970 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 4: me like I'm trying to encourage you with your your 98 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 4: gear which I call it gear instead of shape. 99 00:04:35,860 --> 00:04:36,979 Speaker 3: Or people say girdles. 100 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:40,620 Speaker 4: But I I just think it's important that we look 101 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:43,500 Speaker 4: nice just because we think don't mean that we have 102 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,070 Speaker 4: to just look any kind of way. 103 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:48,330 Speaker 3: Right. And just have it just all thrown out there. Right. 104 00:04:48,450 --> 00:04:51,830 Speaker 4: Well, we cannot be neatly, you know, neatly dressed. And 105 00:04:51,870 --> 00:04:54,529 Speaker 4: that's what shapewear does for you. And I just like 106 00:04:54,570 --> 00:04:57,300 Speaker 4: to be able to share, especially with my thick ladies, 107 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: that we have stuff that can look nice on us. 108 00:04:59,740 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 5: Right. 109 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 4: That's what I really, you know, grabbed into, gravitated that 110 00:05:03,820 --> 00:05:06,550 Speaker 4: I wanted good quality clothing. 111 00:05:06,790 --> 00:05:07,010 Speaker 3: Right. 112 00:05:07,070 --> 00:05:10,930 Speaker 4: For us, Rashad, because sometimes, you know, you get fabrics 113 00:05:10,990 --> 00:05:13,450 Speaker 4: and You hold it up or even when you hope 114 00:05:13,490 --> 00:05:14,350 Speaker 4: you can see through it. 115 00:05:14,490 --> 00:05:16,450 Speaker 3: Right. And I was like, I don't want people to 116 00:05:16,490 --> 00:05:16,990 Speaker 3: be able. 117 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:19,630 Speaker 4: To see through my things. It's like or see your 118 00:05:19,690 --> 00:05:22,660 Speaker 4: body before they get to you. Meaning they see you, 119 00:05:22,980 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 4: your skin coming through your clothes. So things like that 120 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,140 Speaker 4: is very important to me. And that weighs heavy on. 121 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:32,540 Speaker 3: Me that I still have to find things. 122 00:05:33,350 --> 00:05:37,330 Speaker 4: That's compatible for its pricing, because the more you want it, 123 00:05:37,950 --> 00:05:40,409 Speaker 4: the better quality, of course, you know, it costs more money. 124 00:05:40,990 --> 00:05:41,549 Speaker 3: Bottom line. 125 00:05:42,110 --> 00:05:44,550 Speaker 4: And I'm just trying, you know, I'm learning this thing, 126 00:05:44,589 --> 00:05:48,029 Speaker 4: like you were saying earlier, and to just be honest 127 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:50,670 Speaker 4: with people and, you know... You know, we do it 128 00:05:50,710 --> 00:05:54,130 Speaker 4: for other genres or other people that are not from 129 00:05:54,210 --> 00:05:54,910 Speaker 4: our community. 130 00:05:54,970 --> 00:05:55,190 Speaker 2: Yes. 131 00:05:55,290 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 4: I just want us to learn to support one another 132 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 4: and we all can grow and we all can be millionaires, 133 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 4: billionaires or whatever we want to be. If we support 134 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: our own as black people, guys, we don't really need nobody. 135 00:06:07,460 --> 00:06:08,420 Speaker 2: That's true. 136 00:06:08,460 --> 00:06:10,990 Speaker 3: We can do it all by ourselves, you know, just 137 00:06:11,020 --> 00:06:12,130 Speaker 3: by supporting each other. 138 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:14,710 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Tamela, man. She's preaching the economics of 139 00:06:14,750 --> 00:06:17,450 Speaker 1: the black community. We support each other. We don't need 140 00:06:17,529 --> 00:06:18,430 Speaker 1: nobody to support us. 141 00:06:18,860 --> 00:06:19,900 Speaker 2: And that's really true. 142 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,659 Speaker 1: And that's why I created this platform, Money Making Conversation Masterclass, 143 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,980 Speaker 1: because I wanted to make sure that entrepreneurs in the 144 00:06:26,020 --> 00:06:28,740 Speaker 1: Black community recognize you are our new stars. You just 145 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: happen to be an incredibly gifted singer, incredibly gifted actors. 146 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: But you also, as an entrepreneur, needs to be recognized 147 00:06:36,779 --> 00:06:41,770 Speaker 1: that female entrepreneurs are the fastest growing segment of small businesses. 148 00:06:42,010 --> 00:06:44,870 Speaker 2: Yes. And we need to. 149 00:06:44,850 --> 00:06:48,690 Speaker 1: Realize that because that's a big thing to understand. And 150 00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: like I grew up with six sisters. And so when 151 00:06:51,140 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: you start talking about shapewear, we start talking about, you know, 152 00:06:54,260 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: sizes that aren't petite and you start getting above 12. 153 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,220 Speaker 1: You know, you know, the probably the last five to 154 00:07:00,220 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: 10 years, women have been able to who felt they 155 00:07:03,180 --> 00:07:06,299 Speaker 1: were full figure can actually be comfortable being full figured. 156 00:07:07,020 --> 00:07:07,700 Speaker 3: Come on now. 157 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:09,990 Speaker 2: Because, you know, you used to go out and shop. 158 00:07:10,020 --> 00:07:12,610 Speaker 2: All you had was a big old T-shirt. Big old T-shirt. 159 00:07:13,010 --> 00:07:14,450 Speaker 2: They had the big T-shirts. 160 00:07:14,070 --> 00:07:17,610 Speaker 1: For those ladies, but they didn't have the gear or 161 00:07:17,850 --> 00:07:21,420 Speaker 1: the apparel that allowed them to be proud of what 162 00:07:21,460 --> 00:07:21,860 Speaker 1: they're doing. 163 00:07:22,100 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: Talk about that transition because you've been part of that revolution. 164 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,940 Speaker 3: That looked nice and didn't look like a tablecloth. 165 00:07:29,310 --> 00:07:29,550 Speaker 5: Right. 166 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:32,230 Speaker 2: And like I said, I can say that because I 167 00:07:32,290 --> 00:07:35,130 Speaker 2: have six sisters. So I've dealt with their emotions. 168 00:07:35,190 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: I've dealt with them, you know, how they had to 169 00:07:37,540 --> 00:07:38,820 Speaker 1: deal with that, how they had to. 170 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: And then they also have to deal with their friends. 171 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,540 Speaker 1: Now, like I said, you've been part of that revolution 172 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:48,260 Speaker 1: or evolution. What has been the tremendous change? Is it 173 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:50,420 Speaker 1: the fact that, you know, we have the Lizzo's out there? 174 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: We have that commercial, I think that Dove commercial thing. 175 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,970 Speaker 1: We had all the four-figured ladies posing in their underwear, 176 00:07:57,990 --> 00:08:01,910 Speaker 1: looking comfortable. What has been the significant change to make 177 00:08:01,930 --> 00:08:05,230 Speaker 1: this a comfortable conversation? 178 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:06,530 Speaker 3: You know what? 179 00:08:06,630 --> 00:08:09,750 Speaker 4: I think with being honest, since you're talking about the 180 00:08:09,810 --> 00:08:12,290 Speaker 4: money of it, the economics of it, is they see 181 00:08:12,330 --> 00:08:12,730 Speaker 4: that they. 182 00:08:12,650 --> 00:08:13,230 Speaker 3: Can make money. 183 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:13,930 Speaker 2: Thank you. 184 00:08:14,450 --> 00:08:18,830 Speaker 4: And by them showing us and people that look like us, 185 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,950 Speaker 4: you know, I don't need to see, you know, nothing 186 00:08:23,010 --> 00:08:26,110 Speaker 4: against anybody that's small. But if you're trying to sell 187 00:08:26,150 --> 00:08:28,740 Speaker 4: me something, I need to see somebody that's thick like me. 188 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 4: I don't need to see a small person, a petite 189 00:08:31,940 --> 00:08:34,699 Speaker 4: person that doesn't look like me because that doesn't make 190 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,350 Speaker 4: me feel like whatever it is, it's going to look 191 00:08:37,390 --> 00:08:41,580 Speaker 4: right and fit my needs. shape, you know, or, you know, 192 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 4: the way that I'm built. So I think that's the 193 00:08:44,470 --> 00:08:47,610 Speaker 4: importance of it. And they see now we're getting more 194 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:51,350 Speaker 4: eyes and more commercials because they see that they can 195 00:08:51,370 --> 00:08:52,170 Speaker 4: make money from us. 196 00:08:52,630 --> 00:08:53,110 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 197 00:08:53,370 --> 00:08:56,490 Speaker 1: Well, the way you've always made money is that you've 198 00:08:56,510 --> 00:08:57,770 Speaker 1: been spirited by the Lord. 199 00:08:58,370 --> 00:08:58,870 Speaker 2: By the word. 200 00:08:58,929 --> 00:08:59,170 Speaker 5: Right. 201 00:08:59,390 --> 00:09:02,500 Speaker 4: But I mean, they can make money for us plus 202 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,620 Speaker 4: size people. 203 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:04,459 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. 204 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 3: No, no. 205 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:06,859 Speaker 1: I was just making a positive transition. I'm about to 206 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:09,140 Speaker 1: get to why I really brought you on the show. 207 00:09:09,179 --> 00:09:11,390 Speaker 1: You know, he did it for me because I want 208 00:09:11,410 --> 00:09:13,410 Speaker 1: him to do it for me too. 209 00:09:13,530 --> 00:09:15,829 Speaker 3: You good at this. Look, that's why you do what 210 00:09:15,850 --> 00:09:16,309 Speaker 3: you do. 211 00:09:16,390 --> 00:09:19,410 Speaker 5: You are great. We'll be right back with more Money 212 00:09:19,450 --> 00:09:25,710 Speaker 5: Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashawn McDonald. Now let's return to 213 00:09:25,790 --> 00:09:29,870 Speaker 5: Money-Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashawn McDonald. 214 00:09:30,570 --> 00:09:33,650 Speaker 1: You know, there's always been a blessing in these type 215 00:09:33,690 --> 00:09:36,810 Speaker 1: of relationships where I get to see people grow. You know, 216 00:09:36,890 --> 00:09:39,670 Speaker 1: and I get to see them somehow, you know, they're 217 00:09:39,690 --> 00:09:42,350 Speaker 1: in the back and then they come into the front. 218 00:09:42,450 --> 00:09:44,270 Speaker 1: And then also they're in front of everybody and they 219 00:09:44,290 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: become natural leaders. And you become a natural leader, you know, 220 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:49,980 Speaker 1: and a natural leader in the weight loss. 221 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,100 Speaker 2: You know, he was a spokesperson for that. 222 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:55,270 Speaker 1: Now, let's talk about that transition because of the fact 223 00:09:55,309 --> 00:09:57,719 Speaker 1: that again, it was personal. You're doing a lot of 224 00:09:57,820 --> 00:10:02,990 Speaker 1: personal endeavors as an entrepreneur now. How does that impact 225 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,970 Speaker 1: you and impact your family? Do you sit down with 226 00:10:04,990 --> 00:10:07,190 Speaker 1: your family when you make these decisions? When you were 227 00:10:07,210 --> 00:10:09,090 Speaker 1: discussing the weight loss, I know it's tied to your 228 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:10,930 Speaker 1: needs and all that stuff, but talk about that. 229 00:10:12,010 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 4: Well, it is kind of something that I especially sit 230 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,699 Speaker 4: at the top with David about. And then I just 231 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,780 Speaker 4: kind of just let my kids know kind of like 232 00:10:19,820 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 4: what I'm doing. So if someone asks them, you know, 233 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 4: they can kind of answer that it's a yes or 234 00:10:25,740 --> 00:10:31,459 Speaker 4: no factor. But it's important because of my family, you know. 235 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 4: obesity runs in my family and we easy, you know, 236 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,490 Speaker 4: it's like we have some small ones, but we have 237 00:10:38,550 --> 00:10:40,490 Speaker 4: a way where we can be some thick ones if, 238 00:10:40,730 --> 00:10:41,110 Speaker 4: if we. 239 00:10:41,010 --> 00:10:41,750 Speaker 3: Don't watch it. 240 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:47,010 Speaker 4: So I'm just really trying to learn to do better and, 241 00:10:47,700 --> 00:10:49,719 Speaker 4: you know, in my situation because my mother was a 242 00:10:49,740 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: full figure woman and she dealt with high blood pressure 243 00:10:54,020 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: and she didn't have, and diabetes ran on my father's side. 244 00:10:56,780 --> 00:10:59,660 Speaker 3: So I'm really trying to be careful. And like I say, 245 00:10:59,730 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 3: it's an uphill journey. 246 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,550 Speaker 4: Like some people may have problems with drinking or drugs. 247 00:11:05,090 --> 00:11:08,950 Speaker 4: Mine happened to be not even eating enough, eating wrong. 248 00:11:09,410 --> 00:11:13,729 Speaker 4: And it's like learning to do different things. So it's 249 00:11:13,809 --> 00:11:17,229 Speaker 4: important that we, if we share and talk about it, 250 00:11:17,830 --> 00:11:22,290 Speaker 4: you know group therapy really is it really can help 251 00:11:22,350 --> 00:11:24,670 Speaker 4: a lot of us because you feel like first of 252 00:11:24,710 --> 00:11:26,490 Speaker 4: all that you're not alone somebody. 253 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:28,850 Speaker 3: Else is dealing with the same issues that i'm dealing. 254 00:11:28,630 --> 00:11:32,420 Speaker 4: With i'm not just the only one making a bad 255 00:11:32,460 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 4: choice right and and it kind of takes a little 256 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: pressure off the mind where it don't just go heavily 257 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: for us on the mental side where it can put 258 00:11:43,220 --> 00:11:45,689 Speaker 4: you into a And when you can talk about it 259 00:11:45,970 --> 00:11:48,230 Speaker 4: to me, when you learn to talk about issues and 260 00:11:48,270 --> 00:11:51,110 Speaker 4: we face the facts about ourselves that, OK, you got 261 00:11:51,130 --> 00:11:54,510 Speaker 4: an issue here. You know, you're picking wrong. You're choosing wrong. 262 00:11:55,110 --> 00:11:57,750 Speaker 4: You know, you just keep going back the same way. 263 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: And it's like I'm believing and asking God. But it's 264 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 4: also things that I have to grab hold to and 265 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:06,359 Speaker 4: acknowledge that. 266 00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 3: OK, Lord, I'm like. 267 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,070 Speaker 4: Like this morning I was like, damn. Girl, you know, 268 00:12:11,090 --> 00:12:13,670 Speaker 4: it's like talking to myself like, you got to get this. 269 00:12:13,690 --> 00:12:14,390 Speaker 3: You got to do this. 270 00:12:14,850 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 4: That's why that's how the Overcomer album came about is 271 00:12:19,460 --> 00:12:23,540 Speaker 4: working to overcome things and challenges that I'm facing. It's 272 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 4: a day to day fight. It's like I feel like, 273 00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:29,770 Speaker 4: for instance, there's somebody. You know, it's like when that's 274 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:32,070 Speaker 4: when everybody want to invite you out to eat or 275 00:12:32,090 --> 00:12:35,110 Speaker 4: they'll bring you something, fix you something that's not the 276 00:12:35,170 --> 00:12:35,810 Speaker 4: right thing. 277 00:12:36,250 --> 00:12:37,630 Speaker 3: It's like, look at the devil. 278 00:12:41,250 --> 00:12:45,390 Speaker 4: But it's like, but still, it's a process. It really 279 00:12:45,429 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: is a process. And learning not to point the finger 280 00:12:48,620 --> 00:12:51,060 Speaker 4: at other people, but to point the finger at yourself 281 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:54,660 Speaker 4: that you need to address, again, face facts. 282 00:12:54,990 --> 00:12:55,750 Speaker 3: Right. About yourself. 283 00:12:56,070 --> 00:12:59,970 Speaker 1: You know, the beauty of, see, this is the humbleness. See, 284 00:12:59,990 --> 00:13:02,989 Speaker 1: that's why I love interviewing her. Her and Yolanda Allen, 285 00:13:03,010 --> 00:13:05,329 Speaker 1: two of my favorite people. They're both humble, brilliant people. 286 00:13:05,450 --> 00:13:08,070 Speaker 2: Okay. But I'm going to tell you how brilliant she is. Okay. 287 00:13:08,670 --> 00:13:13,500 Speaker 1: Tamela Mann, in history, is the first gospel artist with 288 00:13:13,630 --> 00:13:18,540 Speaker 1: nine number one singles on Billboard's gospel airplay chart. And 289 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:23,510 Speaker 1: it started and ended recently with He Did It For Me. Now, See, 290 00:13:23,530 --> 00:13:25,370 Speaker 1: when you start, see, this is the humble part of 291 00:13:25,410 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: this conversation. She actually talking to me, okay? Nine, now, 292 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: this is Michael Jackson talk, okay? This is Elvis Presley talk, 293 00:13:33,420 --> 00:13:34,460 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? 294 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: This is Beatles talk, you know? 295 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: That's why off air I told her, you'll be headlining 296 00:13:39,250 --> 00:13:42,390 Speaker 1: Essence one day. Because my whole thing is that you 297 00:13:42,429 --> 00:13:46,750 Speaker 1: just can't keep not hearing about this greatness and not 298 00:13:46,850 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: showcasing this greatness. Nine, though, Tamla, nine things. When does 299 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:57,460 Speaker 1: it soak in? When do you realize what you're doing 300 00:13:57,500 --> 00:14:00,380 Speaker 1: to us and uplifting us? 301 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,119 Speaker 2: Come on now. I made you cry last time. I 302 00:14:03,140 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 2: didn't bring you back to cry. Come on now. 303 00:14:05,660 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 3: I know, but it's joyful tears though, Rashad. It's not sad. 304 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: It's like happy and I don't know. All I know is. 305 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:18,990 Speaker 4: I accepted the call and I am just trying to 306 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:24,190 Speaker 4: be a willing vessel to encourage God's people, inspire, bring hope. 307 00:14:24,810 --> 00:14:28,390 Speaker 4: And it might so happen to come through music. And 308 00:14:29,090 --> 00:14:32,980 Speaker 4: when I got word that. The song was number one. 309 00:14:33,060 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, thank you, Lord. And then I 310 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,580 Speaker 4: got word back in like an hour or so later 311 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: was saying, you know, that Billboard had put that out 312 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:44,300 Speaker 4: about it being the ninth. 313 00:14:44,500 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: And because I really don't look at all this stuff. 314 00:14:47,020 --> 00:14:48,380 Speaker 3: That's my job. 315 00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: That's my job. That's my job. 316 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 3: I don't keep up with it. 317 00:14:53,070 --> 00:14:56,930 Speaker 4: But when I heard it, my eyes teared up. But 318 00:14:57,230 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: my thing is to share it. God has no respect 319 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: to person. If he did it for me, he can 320 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,180 Speaker 4: do it for you. And I'm just grateful that he's 321 00:15:05,260 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: done it for me. And my tears are like, it's 322 00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:11,620 Speaker 4: like overwhelming. 323 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 3: Right. 324 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,790 Speaker 4: Because it came out of frustration and hearing somebody saying, 325 00:15:17,270 --> 00:15:20,250 Speaker 4: why is things coming to her? Why is, you know, 326 00:15:20,290 --> 00:15:23,830 Speaker 4: why is her songs being number one up? Why is 327 00:15:23,910 --> 00:15:27,210 Speaker 4: she getting movie deals or, you know, selected to do TV? 328 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:27,970 Speaker 3: Why? 329 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:30,390 Speaker 4: When I went back to my, I was talking to 330 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:33,860 Speaker 4: my daughter, Tia, and the producer, Phil, I was like, 331 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 4: I just started. 332 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:37,060 Speaker 3: Crying because I was like, why would somebody say stuff 333 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:37,620 Speaker 3: like that? 334 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,260 Speaker 4: Because I'm trying so hard to just be out here 335 00:15:41,300 --> 00:15:44,900 Speaker 4: just working and just trying to be a light, bottom line. 336 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 4: And I just started expressing and just talking and the 337 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: producer came back with the hook to the song. 338 00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: Right. 339 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,380 Speaker 4: And he had one verse and then I went back 340 00:15:59,420 --> 00:16:00,570 Speaker 4: and I wrote the second verse. 341 00:16:00,610 --> 00:16:03,230 Speaker 3: He was like, mama, I think he said, this is something. 342 00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:04,890 Speaker 3: And I was like, this is perfect. 343 00:16:04,930 --> 00:16:08,310 Speaker 4: But he took, he took all my words. 344 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: And put them into the song. 345 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:10,140 Speaker 5: Right. 346 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: So that's how it happened. 347 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: And that's where, you know, what we are with. He 348 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: did it for me. Man, I'm telling you. But every 349 00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: time I see it, though, now, y'all, it makes. 350 00:16:21,780 --> 00:16:24,500 Speaker 4: Me cry because I'm grateful. 351 00:16:24,740 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful. 352 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 2: Well, you know, you know, you know, you're always grateful. 353 00:16:29,260 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: You're always thankful. 354 00:16:29,900 --> 00:16:31,860 Speaker 1: Like I say, there's always a positive journey when I 355 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:33,540 Speaker 1: bring you on the show to talk about it. It's 356 00:16:33,590 --> 00:16:35,830 Speaker 1: uplifting for my listeners and my viewers who get to 357 00:16:35,870 --> 00:16:38,890 Speaker 1: see it on video because you're such a positive shining light. 358 00:16:38,930 --> 00:16:41,790 Speaker 1: But I'll be remiss if I don't talk about your 359 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:44,690 Speaker 1: number one fan, you know, who's always been pushing you 360 00:16:44,790 --> 00:16:47,110 Speaker 1: out front, you know, you. 361 00:16:46,750 --> 00:16:50,630 Speaker 2: Know, you know, big D, you know, Dave, and. 362 00:16:50,690 --> 00:16:55,210 Speaker 4: He is, he is, he's always, he's up working late 363 00:16:55,390 --> 00:16:58,430 Speaker 4: all the time. David is my number one supporter. He, 364 00:16:58,500 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: he always tells me, he said, I'm your number one fan. 365 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,179 Speaker 4: And to just see him standing on the sidelines, I 366 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 4: try not to look at him because he, he's singing 367 00:17:08,380 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: with me and he's like, And if I don't feel good, y'all, 368 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:13,780 Speaker 4: he'll sing. 369 00:17:14,020 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 3: Every song, every word. He'll be on the side like, 370 00:17:17,859 --> 00:17:19,940 Speaker 3: I was pushing you. I was pushing you. I was 371 00:17:19,980 --> 00:17:20,540 Speaker 3: singing with you. 372 00:17:20,780 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: That's why you was able to hit that note, because 373 00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:25,730 Speaker 4: I was singing with you. 374 00:17:26,010 --> 00:17:28,210 Speaker 3: He's always making me laugh. 375 00:17:28,790 --> 00:17:32,870 Speaker 4: And I tell him constantly that I appreciate him for 376 00:17:32,910 --> 00:17:36,430 Speaker 4: just loving me and working behind the scenes when people 377 00:17:36,470 --> 00:17:42,270 Speaker 4: don't know everything that's happening behind with the Lord and Him. 378 00:17:42,630 --> 00:17:45,859 Speaker 4: It's happening because of Him and the Lord. And the 379 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,859 Speaker 4: Lord first. And it's just amazing. 380 00:17:50,180 --> 00:17:52,859 Speaker 3: And I just, I can't thank Him enough. 381 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: I can't thank Him enough for just believing in me 382 00:17:56,140 --> 00:17:57,459 Speaker 4: when I didn't believe in myself. 383 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,730 Speaker 2: There you go. That's what I wanted to hear. Because 384 00:17:59,750 --> 00:18:02,369 Speaker 2: we talk about that about you all the time. Okay? 385 00:18:03,270 --> 00:18:03,510 Speaker 3: Yeah. 386 00:18:04,130 --> 00:18:07,090 Speaker 4: And pushing me. I mean, because, you know, He gave 387 00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 4: me He helped me stir up the gift. 388 00:18:12,340 --> 00:18:12,780 Speaker 2: Yes, he did. 389 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 4: Because I was, you know, like you said, the shyness 390 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,659 Speaker 4: and standing out in the forefront. I was like, I'm 391 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,139 Speaker 4: happy with just being in the background, seeing him behind 392 00:18:20,180 --> 00:18:23,500 Speaker 4: Kirk Franklin and seeing him behind whoever, you know, just 393 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: being backstage. 394 00:18:24,820 --> 00:18:27,699 Speaker 3: He was like, no, you were a class town and 395 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 3: people need to hear that. 396 00:18:28,740 --> 00:18:32,510 Speaker 4: So it's just it's amazing to have somebody around you 397 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:34,189 Speaker 4: that push you and that loves you. 398 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:35,609 Speaker 2: Awesome. 399 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:37,609 Speaker 1: I'm talking to Tamela Mann. We're about to get into 400 00:18:37,670 --> 00:18:40,429 Speaker 1: a new song. He did it for me. The deluxe 401 00:18:40,470 --> 00:18:44,369 Speaker 1: version of Overcomer will be hitting streaming platforms July 22nd. 402 00:18:44,890 --> 00:18:45,710 Speaker 3: Yay! 403 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:49,649 Speaker 1: July 22nd. Now, here's some lyrics I pulled from the song. 404 00:18:49,859 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: And we kind of talked about this first one. People 405 00:18:52,460 --> 00:18:56,300 Speaker 1: try to tell me I'm not worthy of my destiny. 406 00:18:57,460 --> 00:18:59,859 Speaker 1: And we kind of hit on that earlier, but I'm 407 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: letting people know that's in the song. 408 00:19:02,420 --> 00:19:05,530 Speaker 2: People try to tell me I'm not worthy of my destiny. 409 00:19:05,950 --> 00:19:07,250 Speaker 1: A lot of people, I kind of say that in 410 00:19:07,290 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: my intro. Don't let your friends, family, or coworkers stop 411 00:19:11,340 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: you from planning or living your dreams. Talk about that 412 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: lyric and the significance of it, because this is your lyric. 413 00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:18,740 Speaker 1: This just happens to be in this song. 414 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: Because, I mean, to hear that, just like we were 415 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:26,020 Speaker 4: saying just a few minutes ago, for someone to say that, 416 00:19:26,220 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 4: why is things happening to you? Why is things coming 417 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:34,340 Speaker 4: through or you being blessed? Not looking and looking at 418 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,139 Speaker 4: the fact that you work, you're putting the work in, 419 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,700 Speaker 4: you know, you're putting the time in and. 420 00:19:39,619 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: You're putting the sacrifice in. But why? 421 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,180 Speaker 4: You know, it's like, oh, well, she don't, I guess, 422 00:19:46,540 --> 00:19:48,909 Speaker 4: you know, because people come, I guess, from a. 423 00:19:51,170 --> 00:19:54,100 Speaker 4: Just own looking that they feel like the person is, 424 00:19:54,869 --> 00:19:57,630 Speaker 4: But you're not. But that's why I'm so glad God 425 00:19:57,690 --> 00:20:00,370 Speaker 4: is God and they're not in control of that. 426 00:20:00,930 --> 00:20:03,090 Speaker 3: Because they can say what they want to say. 427 00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:06,730 Speaker 4: Because people are going to say things and some people 428 00:20:06,790 --> 00:20:09,290 Speaker 4: are not going to believe in you. But that's when 429 00:20:09,330 --> 00:20:12,450 Speaker 4: you push harder. And that's why we lean and depend 430 00:20:12,570 --> 00:20:17,070 Speaker 4: on God. Because he's saying it. I can overcome it 431 00:20:17,130 --> 00:20:20,290 Speaker 4: because he's saying it. I can do it because he's 432 00:20:20,350 --> 00:20:24,030 Speaker 4: saying it. He's walking with me and I have enough faith. 433 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:28,350 Speaker 4: And when you have his favor, I mean, people always 434 00:20:28,369 --> 00:20:29,429 Speaker 4: say faith ain't fair. 435 00:20:30,090 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 3: But I say faith is for me. And he chose me. 436 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,820 Speaker 3: So I'm saying yes to the call. 437 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,740 Speaker 5: We'll be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass 438 00:20:38,780 --> 00:20:44,669 Speaker 5: with Rashawn McDonald. Now let's return to Money Making Conversations 439 00:20:44,990 --> 00:20:47,330 Speaker 5: Masterclass with Rashawn McDonald. 440 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:49,409 Speaker 1: A lot of people, they look at me, they go, Rashawn, 441 00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:51,149 Speaker 1: you're always doing so many different things, but you do 442 00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:55,489 Speaker 1: it so well. I said, I always tell them, October 9th, 1991, 443 00:20:55,490 --> 00:20:58,210 Speaker 1: I prayed to God. And I said, look, if you 444 00:20:58,250 --> 00:21:02,429 Speaker 1: allow me to take advantage of my talent, I promise you, 445 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:06,430 Speaker 1: I'll give you 100% in every lane that I go. 446 00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:08,220 Speaker 1: That's what I date. I put it on a little 447 00:21:08,260 --> 00:21:10,659 Speaker 1: yellow post and put it on my wall. When I 448 00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: was in the apartment, 350 a month, you know, all 449 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: bills were played. It was no bigger than 500 square 450 00:21:16,260 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: feet in Hollywood. And I put that on my wall 451 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,050 Speaker 1: and I said, look, and I just came out of 452 00:21:21,070 --> 00:21:24,190 Speaker 1: spending 30 days in the hospital. My lung had collapsed. 453 00:21:24,590 --> 00:21:28,050 Speaker 1: But I went, look, if you allow me to follow 454 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:30,209 Speaker 1: my dream, I give you 100 percent. And so when 455 00:21:30,230 --> 00:21:33,170 Speaker 1: people look at me, oh, you're baking, Rishon, you're doing this, 456 00:21:33,190 --> 00:21:35,669 Speaker 1: you're managing this, you're doing this TV show. How can 457 00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:38,500 Speaker 1: you say thank you? How are you doing all this stuff? Well, 458 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: God told me, he woke me up. 459 00:21:41,700 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: Not the alarm clock. He woke me up now. When 460 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,550 Speaker 2: he woke me up, he said, go do what you do. 461 00:21:47,290 --> 00:21:48,590 Speaker 1: And when I go out there and do what I do, 462 00:21:48,609 --> 00:21:50,369 Speaker 1: that's what this song is so important for me. 463 00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:52,910 Speaker 2: He did it for me because the next lyric was 464 00:21:52,970 --> 00:21:53,790 Speaker 2: God did it. 465 00:21:54,090 --> 00:21:56,210 Speaker 1: He did it for me. Right there is what we're 466 00:21:56,250 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: talking about right now. You know, I prayed in 1991. 467 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: You know, when the favors come your way, you grab them. OK, 468 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: the people out there who are hating out there looking 469 00:22:07,060 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: out on the outside. 470 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:08,939 Speaker 2: Why does that happen to you? 471 00:22:09,020 --> 00:22:11,940 Speaker 1: Because you too much worried about what I'm doing instead 472 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: of trying to build a relationship or what you can do. 473 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,540 Speaker 2: Talk to us. 474 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,820 Speaker 4: When I don't pray and ask God and see faith 475 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: without works is dead. 476 00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:22,180 Speaker 3: So you got to when you pray it, you got 477 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,780 Speaker 3: to believe it. See, the thing is, is when you. 478 00:22:24,660 --> 00:22:26,830 Speaker 4: Stuck that on that wall and you said that prayer, 479 00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:32,210 Speaker 4: you believe God beyond what you can see. So that's 480 00:22:32,250 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: when he worked. When you have faith and hope, they 481 00:22:35,500 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 4: work together. And when you pray and ask God, and 482 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,220 Speaker 4: when you believe it, that's why he said, if you 483 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,180 Speaker 4: have the faith the size of a mustard seed, we're 484 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,450 Speaker 4: not preaching, you guys. We're just trying to encourage you 485 00:22:47,530 --> 00:22:50,430 Speaker 4: through the word of God that all things are possible 486 00:22:50,490 --> 00:22:51,250 Speaker 4: if you believe. 487 00:22:51,690 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: And he only works if you believe. Whatever it is, 488 00:22:55,109 --> 00:22:59,430 Speaker 3: if it's healing, whatever. whatever, deliverance, whatever you need to come. 489 00:22:59,260 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: Through for you, it's only going to happen if you 490 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 4: believe that it can happen. He moves, then that's the 491 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: action of it. That's how he moves is because you believe. 492 00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:08,700 Speaker 2: Okay. 493 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,100 Speaker 1: One of the final lyrics that I pulled from the 494 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,889 Speaker 1: song that, the whole song is incredible, but these are 495 00:23:13,930 --> 00:23:17,250 Speaker 1: lyrics that personally stood out to me in the song. 496 00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:20,969 Speaker 1: He did it for me. Again, July 22nd, Overcomer, the 497 00:23:20,990 --> 00:23:24,570 Speaker 1: deluxe edition will be available on all streaming platforms. The 498 00:23:24,630 --> 00:23:28,220 Speaker 1: gifts he gave me are not easy to carry. The 499 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: gifts he gave me are not easy to carry. 500 00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:32,899 Speaker 2: Come on. 501 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:33,740 Speaker 3: I got chills. 502 00:23:33,850 --> 00:23:39,609 Speaker 1: Because, you know, when we. 503 00:23:43,470 --> 00:23:46,110 Speaker 4: You know, it's like when the Lord appoints you or 504 00:23:46,730 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 4: when you're given this gift because. 505 00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:53,340 Speaker 3: For a singing, okay, because my body, I'm not Jesus. 506 00:23:53,380 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 3: My body does get tired. My voice does get tired. 507 00:23:57,820 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 4: Being away from my family can be, has been strenuous 508 00:24:02,780 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: at times, especially when my kids were small. 509 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: And even sometimes being. 510 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,460 Speaker 4: Adults, missing things and you working and trying to make 511 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,380 Speaker 4: things still happen. And then not understanding that you got 512 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: a lot on your book and on your. 513 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 3: Plate that you still I'm still. So when you do 514 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,340 Speaker 3: need to come to me, I'm still working. 515 00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 4: So when you do need what you need, it's in 516 00:24:26,260 --> 00:24:31,770 Speaker 4: the bank mainly or the word of encouragement can be 517 00:24:32,090 --> 00:24:32,649 Speaker 4: put there. 518 00:24:32,730 --> 00:24:33,869 Speaker 3: So that's why I. 519 00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:37,350 Speaker 4: Mean, it's not easy because it can be painful and. 520 00:24:37,869 --> 00:24:40,750 Speaker 4: to hear sometimes the ridicule that we were just talking 521 00:24:40,770 --> 00:24:44,980 Speaker 4: about earlier when the naysayers are going and then at work, 522 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,820 Speaker 4: but I'm, But I'm encouraged because I know that God 523 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,379 Speaker 4: has me and I know he's going to do it 524 00:24:52,740 --> 00:24:56,110 Speaker 4: because I'm believing it. And after I ask and believe, 525 00:24:56,510 --> 00:24:59,129 Speaker 4: he's doing it. But that's what I mean by the 526 00:24:59,170 --> 00:25:01,990 Speaker 4: gifts are not easy. When the body gets tired and 527 00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:05,369 Speaker 4: I'm pressing and even like to this day, if I 528 00:25:05,410 --> 00:25:08,929 Speaker 4: get hoarse, I get so teary eyed. 529 00:25:09,770 --> 00:25:11,990 Speaker 3: And that I feel like I'm not able. 530 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:15,210 Speaker 4: To give my best because I always want my mother 531 00:25:15,250 --> 00:25:17,169 Speaker 4: say love the Lord with all your heart and the 532 00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:20,230 Speaker 4: Lord will take you far I always she said always 533 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,220 Speaker 4: do things like you just said 100 whatever you do 534 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,899 Speaker 4: do it to the best of your ability give it 535 00:25:26,140 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 4: everything that you have and every time that I stand 536 00:25:29,220 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 4: before God's people I am trying to let them have 537 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,139 Speaker 4: everything that I have in me it's like I'm leaving 538 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,210 Speaker 4: it out there I'm leaving on whatever stage, whatever two 539 00:25:41,230 --> 00:25:43,710 Speaker 4: or three minutes I get. I got that from Shirley Season. 540 00:25:44,210 --> 00:25:47,890 Speaker 4: I'm giving it my all. 541 00:25:48,550 --> 00:25:51,590 Speaker 1: I'm speaking to Tamela Mann. She is a Grammy award 542 00:25:51,630 --> 00:25:56,290 Speaker 1: winning singer. Billboard recently announced she is the first gospel 543 00:25:56,390 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: artist with nine number one singles on Billboard's gospel airplay charts. 544 00:26:01,660 --> 00:26:05,340 Speaker 1: She has an incredible deluxe version of The Overcomer. It's 545 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: coming out July 22nd on all the streaming platforms. Please 546 00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:12,140 Speaker 1: don't miss it. Please don't understand that. When I bring 547 00:26:12,180 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: on the show, she's motivation for me as a believer. 548 00:26:16,340 --> 00:26:18,700 Speaker 1: She's motivation for the people who listen to her because 549 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: they know if she can do it, she's not telling 550 00:26:21,380 --> 00:26:24,699 Speaker 1: you you can't. She's sharing the blessings with information. And 551 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,310 Speaker 1: that's what we do on Money Making Conversation Masterclass. Again, Tamla, 552 00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:31,429 Speaker 1: thank you for your time as usual. You know I'm 553 00:26:31,450 --> 00:26:33,139 Speaker 1: going to be last. We're going to get some of the. 554 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: Banners put them up because you know I already put 555 00:26:36,660 --> 00:26:38,939 Speaker 1: it out there before you tagged me you know I 556 00:26:39,060 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: was out there promoting Susan said I was out there 557 00:26:41,340 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 1: promoting before you even knew I was promoting because I 558 00:26:43,670 --> 00:26:44,790 Speaker 1: share love. 559 00:26:44,530 --> 00:26:47,109 Speaker 2: Child I don't hate I don't hate I don't hate. 560 00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:49,950 Speaker 1: I gotta if you shining guess what I'm gonna add 561 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:51,669 Speaker 1: more light to the shine okay. 562 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:55,830 Speaker 4: And that's where your blessing comes from too because by 563 00:26:55,869 --> 00:26:59,150 Speaker 4: you pushing somebody else the Lord is continuing to bless 564 00:26:59,190 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 4: you and open doors for you and I pray the 565 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,900 Speaker 4: Lord richly bless you And hey, and it didn't bring 566 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,780 Speaker 4: no sorrow. 567 00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 3: I mean, he really blessed you. I'm telling you. And 568 00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:12,860 Speaker 3: I believe that. 569 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,420 Speaker 4: I mean, when we sow and by you sow, this 570 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,310 Speaker 4: is sowing into me. And, you know, we're sowing into 571 00:27:18,350 --> 00:27:22,310 Speaker 4: each other with words of encouragement. That we can. But 572 00:27:22,350 --> 00:27:24,330 Speaker 4: sometimes we have to do that as brothers and sisters. 573 00:27:24,430 --> 00:27:24,810 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 574 00:27:24,830 --> 00:27:26,609 Speaker 3: You know, we have to pat each other on the back, 575 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:28,810 Speaker 3: you know, give each other our flowers. 576 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:30,970 Speaker 4: I don't want you to come just talk over my 577 00:27:31,030 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: funeral and then, you know, you never told me. 578 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:36,460 Speaker 3: Right. So I'm glad that you encouraged. 579 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,679 Speaker 4: Me while I'm listening and I'm alive and well and 580 00:27:38,740 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 4: I can understand what you're saying. So thank you so 581 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,180 Speaker 4: much for what you do, the time that you put in, 582 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 4: the service that you put in. 583 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:51,750 Speaker 3: God bless you and bless money making. Money market. Because 584 00:27:51,770 --> 00:27:52,730 Speaker 3: y'all doing this thing. 585 00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:54,650 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Again, thank you for coming on Money 586 00:27:54,670 --> 00:27:57,190 Speaker 1: Making Conversation Masterclass. I'm speaking to Tamela Mayer. 587 00:27:57,450 --> 00:27:58,050 Speaker 2: Stay blessed. 588 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,820 Speaker 1: And stay at the top of the world and tell 589 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: that husband who I love to death, David. 590 00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 3: I will. 591 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,090 Speaker 2: I said hi. Okay. Thank you. 592 00:28:06,109 --> 00:28:08,130 Speaker 3: God bless you. Love y'all. Y'all have a blessed day. 593 00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:08,750 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 594 00:28:09,050 --> 00:28:10,369 Speaker 1: And if you want to hear or see any of 595 00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:14,690 Speaker 1: my interviews on Money Making Conversation Masterclass, please go to MoneyMakingConversation.com. 596 00:28:14,850 --> 00:28:16,710 Speaker 2: I'm Rashawn McDonald. I am your host.