WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: It's The Climb

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The It's the Club addition, as

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals look to climb toward the top of the

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<v Speaker 1>AFC North as they host the Baltimore Ravens. Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to a former Bengals wide receiver who is

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<v Speaker 1>making it big and broadcasting and no it's not Chris

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<v Speaker 1>collins Worth. We'll hear from Cam Taylor Britt who bows

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<v Speaker 1>to bounce back from a bad game, and Ryan Rico

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<v Speaker 1>on winning the punting job. And at our Know the

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<v Speaker 1>Faux segment, we'll get an in depth look at the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens from former Baltimore linebacker Brad Jackson. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>by subscribing wherever you get your podcasts. It's the greatest

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<v Speaker 1>thing since Pete Rose, the baseball player. The hit King,

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<v Speaker 1>passed away this week, and he was obviously a flawed person,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't we all. But in his twenty four years as

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<v Speaker 1>a Major League baseball player, Pete Rose gave it his

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<v Speaker 1>all as much as any athlete in any sport. The

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<v Speaker 1>end result was three batting titles, an MVP Award, seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>All Star Game appearances, three World Series titles, and a

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<v Speaker 1>record four thousand, two hundred and fifty six hits. Consider this,

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<v Speaker 1>Royal shortstop Bobby Witt led Major League Baseball this year

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<v Speaker 1>with two hundred eleven hits. If he did that for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty straight seasons, he would come up thirty six hit

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<v Speaker 1>shy of the hit King, a mind boggling achievement by

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<v Speaker 1>one of Cincinnati's greatest sports legends. Now let's talk football,

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<v Speaker 1>beginning with a former Bengal who was at the Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>game last week as a guest. A former Bengals quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Dalton. Our guest is one of the quickest and

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<v Speaker 1>shiftiest wide receivers in Bengals history. Now crushing it in

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<v Speaker 1>retirement on ESPN and in Business number sixteen, Andrew Hawkins

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<v Speaker 1>Hawk great to visit with you last week on ESPN

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<v Speaker 1>before the Bengals beat Carolina, you said you were not

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<v Speaker 1>writing off Cincinnati yet explain why.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, Cincinnati over the Joe Burrow tenure has

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<v Speaker 2>had slow starts to a season. Right, That's something that

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<v Speaker 2>we're always going to talk about that needs address. But

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<v Speaker 2>as you break it down, each game, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>different reason why they didn't get over the hump and

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<v Speaker 2>get a W in the column. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>first game, the offense didn't look great. There were moments

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<v Speaker 2>I felt that Joe could have pushed the ball down field,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was chemistry things and with Jamar coming back recently,

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<v Speaker 2>you can see wild can that took a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>for that to get going. Game two, defense played decent

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<v Speaker 2>against you know, the best quarterback, but they had faced

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<v Speaker 2>to this point Patrick Mahomes and the offense had their

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<v Speaker 2>moments as well, but a call goes differently at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the game and they get a W there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then week three, the defense probably didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>play the way any of us wanted. But so as

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at those three the three games, I felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>because there were all different issues each week, there was

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity they would be able to put this together.

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<v Speaker 2>And it really did just feel like a slow start

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to a football team that is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be competitive in the latter part of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think they played a more complete game

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<v Speaker 2>versus the Carolina Panthers. There were moments defensively, and there

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<v Speaker 2>were some some balls that definitely went in Cincinnati's favor,

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<v Speaker 2>But overall, I still think this is a a is

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<v Speaker 2>a good team. I think there is great players here

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<v Speaker 2>and what you're what you're looking at is them trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find their chemistry. If they can, you know, get

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<v Speaker 2>over some of the injury bug stuff that's starting to

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<v Speaker 2>plague them. I still think that they're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of those teams late in season that you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see. Specifically, if Joe Burrow is healthy and

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<v Speaker 2>doing what Joe Burrow does well.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me follow up on that one thing we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard on ESPN or any other network in recent weeks

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<v Speaker 1>as much talk about Joe Burrow's wrist. Does he look

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<v Speaker 1>basically as good as ever?

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<v Speaker 3>To you?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so. I think like you know, look for

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<v Speaker 2>every athlete that goes through a major injury, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went through this in my time in Cincinnati, there's like

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<v Speaker 2>this purgatory period when you get done, like when you

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<v Speaker 2>get back to full strength and health, that you're still

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<v Speaker 2>trying to, like, you know, convince yourself to let it go.

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<v Speaker 2>And I do think early in the season in that

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<v Speaker 2>game one area, Joe was trying to figure that out

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<v Speaker 2>right when the live action was out there. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think since then, as I've watched him, it looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he has in a big way, right And the

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<v Speaker 2>other part of the that is encouraging is I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like versus Carolina, you know, they looked a little different

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<v Speaker 2>in their offensive attack, and Joe was okay with that.

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<v Speaker 2>The running backs were, you know, amazing in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was at that game. Actually, we went down

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<v Speaker 2>to go see it because Andy was playing, and me,

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<v Speaker 2>Mohammed sanu aj Green said pierman, Vinnie Ray, Mike NuGen,

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<v Speaker 2>We all sat there and watched the game together. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was a really cool moment for all of us

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it do your heart good to see the red

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<v Speaker 1>rifle still slinging it fourteen years after you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>rookies together.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't tell you how good it did my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I sat there I could not believe that

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<v Speaker 2>that guy was still playing football. As someone who's knees

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<v Speaker 2>crack as they walk up the stairs, I'm like, that

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<v Speaker 2>is ridiculous that you were still out there. We came

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<v Speaker 2>into the league together.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bengals fans enjoyed the victory over Carolina last Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on Sunday night they watched Baltimore dismantle the

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<v Speaker 1>Buffalo Bills, and I think everybody felt a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>queasy just seeing how good the Ravens looked in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>What are some of your keys for the Bengals to

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<v Speaker 1>knock off the Ravens at pay Corps on Sunday?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they cannot let the Ravens bully them, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that probably feels rudimentary, but if you watch

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<v Speaker 2>that offense, it is rudimentary. Like NFL football in general

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of evolving back to the old school. Run

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<v Speaker 2>games are up. It's not as pass heavy and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not as highly productive in the air and as it

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<v Speaker 2>has been in years past. And for someone like Baltimore

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<v Speaker 2>over the last two games, starting with Dallas and then

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<v Speaker 2>in the last week versus the Bills. I mean, Derrick

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<v Speaker 2>Henry is a modern marvel and they are very much

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<v Speaker 2>going to say, hey, we're going to run the ball

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<v Speaker 2>down your throat until you prove to us we can't. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And so for Cincinnati to get them to play it honest,

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<v Speaker 2>to get them to like truly dig into their offensive

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<v Speaker 2>strategy bag, they cannot allow that run game to bully him.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it starts up front. The Ravens, like the

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<v Speaker 2>offensive line has started to slowly figure it out. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>we know they replace some pieces, but I think the

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<v Speaker 2>keys to their running game in the blocking or on

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<v Speaker 2>the perimeter with Mark Andrews and Racard. The way that

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<v Speaker 2>they are leading holes for Derrick Henry and almost springing

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<v Speaker 2>him in that second level, it's special. It's special. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to take a concentrated effort from first level,

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<v Speaker 2>second level, and third level to show that they are

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<v Speaker 2>stout early in this game. Otherwise they have the potential

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<v Speaker 2>to wear down that defense.

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<v Speaker 1>For the Bengals defense, help is on the way on

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive line. There are four injured players that should

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<v Speaker 1>be back soon. Maybe not this Sunday, but soon do

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<v Speaker 1>you see a defense that's capable of being really good?

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<v Speaker 2>I do, I do. I think, you know, when I

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<v Speaker 2>look at defenses in the NFL, it starts with, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>do you have the personnel right? And for me, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have the personnel, number two is do you have

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching to put them in position? And I think

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<v Speaker 2>they have both of those things, and you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>on the defensive side. And I know he had a

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<v Speaker 2>tough game last week, Cam Taylor Britt, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>he is one of the best young corners. I really

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<v Speaker 2>do appreciate his game. I appreciate his style. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate that he takes the chances when he does, because

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<v Speaker 2>to me, that shows a level of confidence. Now he understands,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said it in his you know interviews this

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<v Speaker 2>week that he has to tighten up and he can't

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<v Speaker 2>allow that no matter what that situation is. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think that their personnel is figuring out how to

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<v Speaker 2>gel together. And what I'm hoping for versus the Ravens,

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<v Speaker 2>which is right when it's needed, is that the Bengals

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<v Speaker 2>are able to put together a complete game and that

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<v Speaker 2>is both offensively, defensively, and in special teams. And then

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<v Speaker 2>when you go a little bit more micro on the

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<v Speaker 2>defensive side. That is, on all three levels of the defense.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to be able to play as a unit. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that all these things affect each other, secondary

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<v Speaker 2>effects the defensive line, the defensive line effects the secondary

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<v Speaker 2>and the lineback and cores and all of that. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is a big opportunity, not only because

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<v Speaker 2>they'll need it. It's one of those games where if

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<v Speaker 2>they're able to make this the game defensively, they can

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<v Speaker 2>put it all together, even though they're you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>people injured and probably won't be a part of this game.

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<v Speaker 2>It will give them the confidence for the remainder of

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<v Speaker 2>the season. This is one of those statement games to show, look,

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<v Speaker 2>look what we did versus the Baltimore Ravens, and that

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<v Speaker 2>elevates their game for the rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>We're chatting with ESPN analyst and former Bengals wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Hawkins. Let's talk about the Bengals offense. The point

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<v Speaker 1>total has gone up every week. They've topped thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks in a row, and we're seeing young guys emerge,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Brown at running back, Eric All at tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you see an offense that's finding more ways to attack.

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<v Speaker 2>I am seeing an offense that's finding more ways to attack,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they're also understanding the importance of that

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<v Speaker 2>of role as well, right, Like, we know what Jamar

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<v Speaker 2>Chase is, we know that you know T Higgins can

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<v Speaker 2>step up big and will step up big when necessary,

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<v Speaker 2>and those big players are going to come. But to

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<v Speaker 2>your point the role players and saying okay, you know

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<v Speaker 2>hey versus Carolina, Yes, those moments. But there there's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be some some ground and pound opportunities. Is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be some out of the backfield. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to make catches and get first downs. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to break tackles when it looks like we're stuffed

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<v Speaker 2>on the goal line, because that is what's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get us over the hump. And I think Joe Burrow

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<v Speaker 2>has done a very good job of distributing the football

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<v Speaker 2>right I Go's so easy for quarterbacks to get locked

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<v Speaker 2>in on certain guys. And the thing I love about

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<v Speaker 2>Joe is that he understands like, yeah he has Jamar,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah he has T. But the number one receiver to

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<v Speaker 2>him is the guy that's open. And that is a

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<v Speaker 2>special quality that not a lot of quarterbacks have, especially

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<v Speaker 2>when things get thick and there's adversity in games. It's

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<v Speaker 2>so easy just to go to the easy button. But

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<v Speaker 2>for Joe it's I think he did an incredible job

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<v Speaker 2>last week. It has, honestly, I think ever since Week one,

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<v Speaker 2>of distributing the football in confident ways and trusting his

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<v Speaker 2>guys in other places.

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<v Speaker 1>Your short space quickness was as good as I've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jamar Chase isn't too far off. And he's five

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<v Speaker 1>inches taller and thirty pounds heavier. What stands out to

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<v Speaker 1>you when you watch Numero Uno.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna lie to you, Jamar Chase is, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I pride myself on my ability to scout receivers

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<v Speaker 2>scout abilities. I can make comps, and when I watched

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<v Speaker 2>Jamar Chase, I actually literally just talked about this with

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<v Speaker 2>AJ Green. It's like he's the kind of receiver who

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<v Speaker 2>there's no like one thing that you look at and say, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>he does that great right now, he's the very best.

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<v Speaker 2>To your point, when you watch me, it's very clear

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<v Speaker 2>his quickness makes him different. That's why he could be

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<v Speaker 2>five seven in the NFL. With AJ Green his hand

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<v Speaker 2>eye coordination is on elite levels that even by NFL standards,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't see. There's people like most Anew who is

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<v Speaker 2>a strong he has very great lateral quickness for his size.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there's Jamar Chase who does pretty much everything

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<v Speaker 2>well that nothing stands out over the other ones. And

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes if you're just like if you just pop in

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<v Speaker 2>and out, it's like, oh, he's just the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the pack. But then you see his speed on those plays,

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<v Speaker 2>like when he breaks out on the sideline, his strength

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<v Speaker 2>to break that tackle, his hand eye coordination, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>like everything is good about Jamar Chase. He's like almost

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<v Speaker 2>And I say this to my son, who is a

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<v Speaker 2>young receiver that I'm training as well, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a guy you should watch because it's like a

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<v Speaker 2>video game if you build a receiver. He has all

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<v Speaker 2>the attributes like good already that are stocked that you

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<v Speaker 2>want to put in your wide receiver. I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>what makes him special is it's not because he does

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<v Speaker 2>any one thing incredibly better than everybody else. He does

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<v Speaker 2>everything better than everybody else, and that's a special quest

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<v Speaker 2>for a receiver his size and his play style.

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<v Speaker 1>You were a Bengals fan as a kid. Your older

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<v Speaker 1>brother Artrell played for the team. You were part of

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<v Speaker 1>three playoff teams in a Bengals uniform. What was it

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<v Speaker 1>like for you to be sitting in the stands at

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<v Speaker 1>Sofi Stadium watching the Bengals in Super Bowl fifty six.

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<v Speaker 2>I cried, I'm not gonna lie. I did. I did.

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<v Speaker 2>I shed tears as they played the national anthem, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was sitting there because, yeah, You're not wrong, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being in sixth and seventh grade, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is when I'm like really getting into NFL football, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the middle of Steeler Country's country, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>wearing Bengals jerseys and T shirts and you know these

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<v Speaker 2>are one, one, two, three win seasons, right And you

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<v Speaker 2>know as a sixth grader, as the seventh grader, all

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<v Speaker 2>you want is for your team to be good. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm praying for my team to be good, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>praying just to see them in the playoffs. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to see a Hawkins jersey in the playoffs, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember when we played the Texans in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs in twenty eleven, like I was almost uncontrollably crimed

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<v Speaker 2>because it was such a full circle moment. And then

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to sit in the Super Bowl watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals battle the Los Angeles Rams, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a surreal moment. I consider myself a fan

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<v Speaker 2>before anything else, and that fandom of sport, that fandom

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<v Speaker 2>of football started with the Cincinnati Bengals. Man, So it

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<v Speaker 2>has always meant something more to me to see those

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<v Speaker 2>stripes out there doing well. And it's been an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years watching Joe kind of help take this

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<v Speaker 2>franchise to the place that we all knew it could

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<v Speaker 2>be for the last twenty plus years.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew, we love seeing you on ESPN. But as I

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, you're thriving in the business world. You got

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<v Speaker 1>your masters at Columbia after your playing career ended. Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about the business you co found

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<v Speaker 1>in Status Pro.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate that. So Status Pro is a virtual

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<v Speaker 2>reality technology company and we build XR technology around sports

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<v Speaker 2>for or coaches, fans and players. And so we have

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<v Speaker 2>a training product that NFL teams use to simulate reps

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<v Speaker 2>on the field. So you put the VR headset on

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<v Speaker 2>or we projected on a walk through wall where you're

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<v Speaker 2>able to see the defense, you're able to manipulate the defense,

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<v Speaker 2>so everybody gets a real look of that first person

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<v Speaker 2>perspective they're going to see on Sundays without putting wear

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<v Speaker 2>and tear in their body. We also have our number

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<v Speaker 2>one consumer product, which is NFL pro Era, which is

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<v Speaker 2>the first ever NFL simulation game in virtual reality. So

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<v Speaker 2>you get to play quarterback, you get to play defense,

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<v Speaker 2>and feel what it's like to be in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been an incredible journey. We founded the companies five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago now, and me and my co founder Troy Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>who is also a former Division one quarterback, we just

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<v Speaker 2>felt like there was an opportunity to give fans but

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<v Speaker 2>they've always wanted, which is to feel what it's like

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<v Speaker 2>to be their heroes. Like I told you those moments

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<v Speaker 2>when I came out of the tunnel as a Cincinnati Bengal,

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<v Speaker 2>having grown up a Bengal with having dreamt of that

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<v Speaker 2>moment my entire life, it was surreal, and so through

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<v Speaker 2>technow I wanted to create that experience for everybody, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what NFL Pro Era is, and it's something I'm

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly proud of. And again those roots stem back to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my life as a lifelong Bengals fan.

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<v Speaker 1>We are very excited about your success. We love seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that Bengals helmet over your shoulder. Continued success to you, Andrew,

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<v Speaker 1>and thanks for the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan. It was great to see you and thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's turn from a former Bengals wide receiver to

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<v Speaker 1>a current Bengals defensive back, Cam Taylor. Britt has been

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<v Speaker 1>excellent when healthy in his first two NFL seasons. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why it was jarring last week to see him get

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<v Speaker 1>benched in the win over Carolina. The guy he was

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<v Speaker 1>covering was targeted six times and Cam surrendered five catches

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<v Speaker 1>for eighty four yards and a touchdown. DJ Turner eventually

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<v Speaker 1>took his place in the lineup and wound up playing

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen more snaps here are Zach Taylor and lou Anarumo.

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<v Speaker 4>That game was not up to his standard, know, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure he'll talk more about it this week, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, just just again, he's a guy that we

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<v Speaker 4>really lean on to be kind of a foundational piece

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<v Speaker 4>over there, and that certainly wasn't his best game and

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<v Speaker 4>expect more from him going on. And that wasn't up

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<v Speaker 4>to his standard, and I'm excited to watch how he

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<v Speaker 4>responds to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Cam will bounce back. I have all the faith in Cam.

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<v Speaker 5>He's getting a big hug right after the game and

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<v Speaker 5>like that will never happen again. And and I do

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<v Speaker 5>trust him. He's played too much good football here for

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<v Speaker 5>us in order for that. But again, where we're at,

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<v Speaker 5>we can't allow anything to slip. So he's one of

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<v Speaker 5>the guys that weren't counting on to play well. He's

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<v Speaker 5>demonstrated that he can and he has to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do it consistently, so he knows it.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know where I'll say it again, I have

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<v Speaker 5>all the faith in the world and Cam that bounce

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<v Speaker 5>back and have a good game this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke to Cam this week about bouncing back, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Lu shared the other day that after the game, you

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<v Speaker 1>approached him even before he like shook the other team's

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<v Speaker 1>hand and said, this is not gonna happen again. I

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<v Speaker 1>had a game, I promise you that was that.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, most definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>You have to be a man and own up to

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<v Speaker 3>your mistakes at the end of the day. And that

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<v Speaker 3>game player that I put out there on the film

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<v Speaker 3>and showcasing from the world was not it U and

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<v Speaker 3>I believe my coaches knew that. I wanted to make

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<v Speaker 3>sure that he knew that that was the right of

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<v Speaker 3>me because the team they count on me, and I

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't be counted on the you know the other game.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you describe what you think you were doing poorly?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, it was my technique, man, in my eyes, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they both go together. Just trying to play

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<v Speaker 3>so fast that you're looking for the ball ahead of time. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>you see, I got the interception, but I was looking

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<v Speaker 3>at the ball then, you know. But it's you can't

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<v Speaker 3>you know, put your hands on the receiver downfield, even

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<v Speaker 3>though they try to. You won't get those calls. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day. It is offensive league,

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<v Speaker 3>and you you have to play the you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>ball through the air. Can't grap receivers. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>one thing I gotta do better with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It almost sounds like maybe guessing a little bit, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to anticipate something instead of just relying on the technique

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<v Speaker 1>that's got you this far.

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<v Speaker 3>Anticipating most definitely for a little minute, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>I do watch film Man. Sometimes you know when it's

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<v Speaker 3>coming at the end of the day. But also you

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<v Speaker 3>know another we're going into the second half of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>They're looking at film now and growing against players now.

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<v Speaker 3>So you guys are bad here the continued teams are

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<v Speaker 3>going to continue to hit you on the same thing

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<v Speaker 3>and double move it and you know, switch it up

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<v Speaker 3>here and there, knowing what you're going into.

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<v Speaker 1>How eager are you to play again after a game

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<v Speaker 1>like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, man, I'm surprised today. It was a great practice. Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Just start the week, all right, Uh, you know, just

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<v Speaker 3>get right for this week and redeem it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever been taken out of a game for

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<v Speaker 1>something other than an injury?

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<v Speaker 3>Not at all, man, And I think that was one

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<v Speaker 3>thing that just kind of opened my eyes, because I

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<v Speaker 3>told you was some touch field. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>come off of it. But in all reality, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, we have to win

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<v Speaker 3>the game, and then I'm the reason for that. You

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<v Speaker 3>guys to understand, this is a business and it just

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<v Speaker 3>can't be like that, and it won't be like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Neither Zach or Lou sounded worried. They more or less

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<v Speaker 1>said He's one of our best players. We're counting him

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<v Speaker 1>him to be that guy, and we're confident he will be.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you heard those comments, but what

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<v Speaker 1>does that say to you?

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I did not hear any of that, but I

0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 3>do really appreciate them for, you know, thinking that of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll try to come out here every day and put

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<v Speaker 3>my best foot forward. Yeah. I had a hiccup, but

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<v Speaker 3>there won't be too many more hiccups.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>I try to do this trying to win. Man, as

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<v Speaker 3>a team, and like I said, the team counts on

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<v Speaker 3>me to be that number one guy, and I have

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<v Speaker 3>to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at the Ravens, I heard Bill Belichick say this

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<v Speaker 1>week the challenge with them is if you go big

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the run game, they got fast guys. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go small to be fast, they've obviously got big guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a good description of what makes them so unique?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can most definitely say that. Like he basically said, Man,

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<v Speaker 3>it's total opposites on each end. You know, there's a

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<v Speaker 3>woe win situation. They're a great team and they have

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.359
<v Speaker 3>the best of both worlds in the backfield. The two

0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:52.359
<v Speaker 3>two greatest duos in the backfield and now I'm on

0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:54.240
<v Speaker 3>the outside. You of course they have the speed, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the run downfield, you know, take the shots off your head.

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<v Speaker 3>So you got to be very prepared for that. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>stop the run when it's that time, you know, take

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<v Speaker 3>the shots off.

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<v Speaker 1>When they added Derrick Henry, did you say, of course

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<v Speaker 1>they added Derrick Henry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, kind of you know, we played against so before.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, man, that this, you know that is

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<v Speaker 3>intimidating to a lot of teams. That you see that

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<v Speaker 3>in the backfield. You gotta garb both of those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you never know. Lamar Will, you know, put

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<v Speaker 3>his magic on and he made something happen. But down

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<v Speaker 3>here running game with Derek here is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 4>Will.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the mindset of this team in terms of the

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<v Speaker 1>importance of this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Is his playoff game? Simple? Is that we have to win.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no offense or us about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Cam's looking to bounce back this week. Hunter Ryan

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<v Speaker 1>Rico aka robo leg is looking to continue the remarkable

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 1>start to his NFL career. Ryan Rico's first punt today

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<v Speaker 1>went fifty seven yards. He came into the game averaging

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<v Speaker 1>more than fifty nine yards of punt when he launches

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<v Speaker 1>this one way way up in the air, Blacks year

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<v Speaker 1>going back back back. Wow, catching it at the fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>tackled right away by Tyson Anderson.

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<v Speaker 6>Man in the Bengals bench, Mike Hilton and others come

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<v Speaker 6>to congratulate Rico.

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<v Speaker 1>He crutched that roboleg is averaging fifty eight point four

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<v Speaker 1>yards of punt with a net average of forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>point seven. Both numbers would be NFL single season records,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the release of the now healthy Brad Robbins

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<v Speaker 1>this week, Rico has officially won the full time job.

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<v Speaker 7>I hate the way that it happened with Brad being injured,

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<v Speaker 7>just because like it can happen to anybody, and so

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<v Speaker 7>that's never you never feel great about that, but definitely

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<v Speaker 7>grateful for the opportunity. I feel like I've been able

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<v Speaker 7>to showcase what I can do. But I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>it's like the game's not four seasons, or the season

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<v Speaker 7>isn't four games. Just need to continue every single week

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<v Speaker 7>proving exactly why I think they made the right decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Your numbers through four games are pretty crazy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>both your net average and your gross average would be

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<v Speaker 1>NFL records. That's probably hard to keep up. But do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you've been unusually good to this point

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<v Speaker 1>or just good?

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<v Speaker 7>I don't feel like it's been unusual. I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>in practices it's pretty pretty indicative of what's been able

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<v Speaker 7>to transfer to the field. Obviously, we haven't had a

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<v Speaker 7>whole lot of punts, so I mean, I wish I

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<v Speaker 7>could sit here and just say like, yeah, every ball

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<v Speaker 7>is gonna be be perfect. But I'm sure everybody goes

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<v Speaker 7>through a little bit ups and downs. But as as

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<v Speaker 7>for myself right now, I feel like I can really

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<v Speaker 7>stay the course and continue to just try and put

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<v Speaker 7>our team in really great positions. And I feel like

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<v Speaker 7>the net especially speaks volumes of the coverage guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>our gunners are hustling, They're setting speed records every single week.

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<v Speaker 7>It seems like snaps are great, and I've really had

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<v Speaker 7>not a whole lot of pressure, which has been great

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<v Speaker 7>because our protection has been really good. So I feel

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<v Speaker 7>like it's it's been a great couple weeks as a unit.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, You've hit some really good ones from deep

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<v Speaker 1>in your own end. Do you think that that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you are, you know, exceptionally good at Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>I love I love being able to have that open field.

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<v Speaker 7>So then you're not kind of in the gray area.

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<v Speaker 7>Do I need to take a little bit off it?

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<v Speaker 7>You can kind of just swing away. And I feel

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<v Speaker 7>like Coach Simmons has really instilled a lot of that confidence,

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<v Speaker 7>just like go out and hit whatever you want, like

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:29.600
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna cover it. And so I'm just really really

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<v Speaker 7>grateful that they've allowed me to play to my strengths

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<v Speaker 7>and just looking forward to hopefully continuing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Know the Faux Segment. Former UC football and basketball player

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Jackson won a Super Bowl ring as a Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens linebacker. He's covered the team since his playing days

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<v Speaker 1>ended and joined Dave Lapham and me this week on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals Game Plan Show. Let's talk about the team

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<v Speaker 1>in your neck of the woods. The Baltimore Ravens liked

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. They started the season zero to two, lost

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<v Speaker 1>at home to the Raiders in the second week of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, and they've been good since. Went on the

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<v Speaker 1>road and beat Dallas, played great on Monday Night to

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<v Speaker 1>beat Buffalo. What changed? Why did the Ravens begin turning

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<v Speaker 1>it up in week three?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think a lot of it had to do.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, guys is with you know, when you're back

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<v Speaker 8>as against the wall. You guys know John Harball, he

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<v Speaker 8>obviously has bloodlines to the University of Cincinnati as our

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<v Speaker 8>former running back coach or recruiting coordinator. So he just

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<v Speaker 8>kind of went back to, you know, what's the hardball

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 8>way of just going back in and focusing on the

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 8>base and simplifying things. And so, you know, the lost

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<v Speaker 8>of Kansas City on the roads is a tough one.

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<v Speaker 8>We know how good Kansas City is. Opening week, like

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<v Speaker 8>you said, it was an opening day hearing Baltimore versus

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<v Speaker 8>the Raiders, and the Raiders have traditionally played awful every

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 8>time they came east, and they kind of got shell

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<v Speaker 8>shocked in that game.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>And then when you're zero and two and you go

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<v Speaker 8>on the road to Dallas that everyone was expecting to

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<v Speaker 8>play better considering they had just got she lacked by

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:33.000
<v Speaker 8>the Saints at home the previous week. It was it

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<v Speaker 8>was a team that had a sense of urgency and

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<v Speaker 8>had a lot of focus, and then they kind of

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<v Speaker 8>got back to as you guys know and see of

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<v Speaker 8>running the football. They kind of got away from some

0:26:43.960 --> 0:26:46.359
<v Speaker 8>of the little fun dipsy do types of stuff that

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<v Speaker 8>we all see throughout the NFL early in the season

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<v Speaker 8>with teams and then teams ultimately find you find out

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<v Speaker 8>who they are. And I think for the Ravens in

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<v Speaker 8>Week three, having their backs against the wall, it was,

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<v Speaker 8>let's go out there and just get back to handing

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<v Speaker 8>the ball off to Derrick Henry and let's really try

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<v Speaker 8>to ride this and take advantage of Lamar's legs and

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<v Speaker 8>his ability to and RPOs and that type of thing,

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 8>and then throw the plays downfield. And they had to

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<v Speaker 8>so and then they carried it over into, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>obviously last week against the Buffalo Bills, where you know,

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<v Speaker 8>they basically opening play, you know, Derrick Henry, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>goes all the way to the house eighty some yards

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<v Speaker 8>or whatever it was, and then it was over from

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<v Speaker 8>there because they just kept pounding the ball out of

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:35.000
<v Speaker 8>the Buffalo Bills, who I think were kind of shell

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 8>shocked and there was really no answer for So that's

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<v Speaker 8>probably the two biggest things. I think. Defensively, the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a new.

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<v Speaker 8>Defensive coordinator in Zach Korr, who was a former player obviously,

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 8>Chris Hewett, you know, my bear cast teammate, is the

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<v Speaker 8>assistant head coach and the passing game coordinator. And they

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<v Speaker 8>finally have a healthy secondary. And then they lost a

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<v Speaker 8>corner this week that's going to go on ir for

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 8>a hamstring. So they're finding their way defensively with a

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<v Speaker 8>new defensive coordinator, even though the system is the same.

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 8>You've lost a couple of players, They've plugging in a

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<v Speaker 8>couple of new players. They basically and all that being said,

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<v Speaker 8>got back to playing Ravens football, which is, you know what,

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 8>We're going to run the football, be physical, and play

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<v Speaker 8>good defense and try to get back to five hundred,

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<v Speaker 8>which is what they were able to do.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, I'll tell you. Running the football is an understatement,

0:28:25.920 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 6>you know. I mean back to back games twodred and

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 6>seventy yards rushing or more. I mean they've done it

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<v Speaker 6>three times children seventy yards rushing or more in a

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 6>game since the start of last season. The rest of

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 6>the NFL zero, the rest of the NFL haven't done it.

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 6>They've done it three times two weeks in a row. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean you talk about committing to a running game,

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<v Speaker 6>these two Henry and Jackson seven hundred and eighty eight

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 6>yards rushing, six point nine yards per carry, and they've

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 6>combined for seven touchdowns. I mean, they just they just

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<v Speaker 6>pounded submission. I mean, is ground and pounds best, didn't it?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah? I mean I mean, hey, lad, you and me

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<v Speaker 8>could come back and play for this team right here,

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.720
<v Speaker 8>right now, because here you know all about being physical

0:29:10.800 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 8>as an offensive lineman and the offensive line if you

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<v Speaker 8>go back and you got and I know you guys do.

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<v Speaker 8>So I'm speaking more to the to the Bengals fans

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 8>out there and Washington film or watching the game. The

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 8>offensive line was getting torched, like out here in the media.

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:25.240
<v Speaker 8>They were putting moving signs, you know, in front of

0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 8>some of these guys' houses because they were playing so bad.

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<v Speaker 8>And part of that had to do with it, because

0:29:30.640 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 8>they were throwing the football and the right side of

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.880
<v Speaker 8>the offensive line was getting you know, was getting tore up.

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 8>I mean, we all saw the Thursday night opener. You know,

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 8>Chris Jones, who's probably you know, top five best defensive

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 8>players in the entire league, was having his way and

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 8>made impactful plays. The same thing happened the falling week.

0:29:47.120 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 8>Max Crosby comes in here and he, I mean, he

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 8>looked like he was a defensive player of the year,

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.520
<v Speaker 8>you know, dominating the offensive line. And I think what

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 8>happened is they got back to, like you said, ground

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 8>and pound, run the football. They're still going to the

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 8>running game, but they're pulling guards, they're pulling tackles, they're

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 8>they're trapping guys on the interior. And we know in

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 8>this passing league. And then the way the game is

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 8>in college as much as there's not a lot of

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 8>guys that linebackers and d Liman are just not used

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<v Speaker 8>to seeing the old school running you know, plays of

0:30:18.520 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 8>you know, guards pullings and guys getting trapped. And so

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 8>once you're doing that, and then you got Henry you

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 8>let him go downhill, and we all know, you guys

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 8>remember him from the Titans. Once he's going downhill like

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.160
<v Speaker 8>he's a problem. And then if you can get him

0:30:32.200 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 8>to go sideways, which is what the teams the first

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:38.920
<v Speaker 8>two weeks did, then obviously you haven't advantaged there defensively,

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 8>which is what I'm sure the Bengals coaches, you know,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.560
<v Speaker 8>in the coordinator them, are going to have tell their

0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 8>guys all week, we got to get him going sideways.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 8>You have to get penetration. So, like you said, they

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 8>went back to running the football the raven way because

0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 8>it was an opportunity and a way for them to

0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.040
<v Speaker 8>try to get this get this ship back right after

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 8>start zer and two because because guess what if you

0:31:01.240 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 8>go down to Dallas and lose in your oh and

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 8>three and then you got to come home and play

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 8>you know, the Bills, who obviously want to, you know,

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 8>be a playoff team. You know, at the end of

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 8>when all this is said and done, you know that's

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.840
<v Speaker 8>going to be a situation of going oh and three

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<v Speaker 8>with the chance going.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and four.

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<v Speaker 8>We all know, now, all of a sudden, it gets

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 8>real sticky around here. When a quarter of the season

0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 8>has been lost. So they went back to the roots

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 8>of raven football. They went back to said, you know what,

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 8>let's help these offensive lineman out because we're getting torchs

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.840
<v Speaker 8>trying to do all the nice things in the passing game,

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 8>and right now they're just not that good enough to

0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 8>hold up. And they their offensive line took a beating.

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 8>They took it personal. And then what you do, laugh

0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 8>is you know, when your offensive line is struggling, every

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:45.280
<v Speaker 8>offensive line to play with Job and Hogen the Hall

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.120
<v Speaker 8>of Famer and play with a lot of very good

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:50.239
<v Speaker 8>Hall of you know, played against Tony Mancelli friends with lead.

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.959
<v Speaker 8>I'm seriously all these guys that we know. You know

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 8>that Alan Fannico is my draft here. You know, guys

0:31:56.360 --> 0:31:58.200
<v Speaker 8>that I've warned to talk to, and like, what, what

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 8>do they love the most? You guys love to get

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 8>down and dirty and pound on people versus retreating and

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 8>pass blocking and pass blocking the whole game. You want

0:32:07.320 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 8>to match people in the face and impose your will.

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 8>And when you're able to impose your will, You've seen

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 8>what's able to happen in the last two weeks here

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 8>in Baltimore, which is then getting a ground game going

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.760
<v Speaker 8>and now the offensive line has gotten their conference back

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 8>because now they're almost likely they're the bullies on the block,

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 8>you know, down there in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple more questions for former Bearcat great and former

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Raven Super Bowl winning linebacker Brad Jackson. Baltimore had a

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<v Speaker 1>historically good defense last year, number one in the league

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>and fewest points allowed, number one in sacks, number one

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>in turnovers generated. No team had ever done that before

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in those three categories, but they lost a ton of

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>good players. Patrick Queen has gone, Gino Stone went to

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. Todevian Clowney is now with Carolina. The Bengals

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>saw him last week. Is there a drop off? Is

0:32:54.880 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>there a full area on this defense?

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I think if there's a vulnerable area, you got

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 8>Trent Simpsons, who obviously was a very good linebacker at

0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 8>Clemson University. It's his first time starting because, like you said,

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 8>Pete Queen is off the Pittsburgh right now, and so

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 8>the vulnerability I think is probably up front. There hasn't

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 8>been a lot of pass rush. You have O Way,

0:33:17.880 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 8>who had a couple of big games, but right now,

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 8>Michael Pierce, the defensive tackle, he's probably gonna miss the

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 8>game this week. He was down last week shoulder surge.

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 8>I mean, he's a huge piece on the interior. Mama Buke,

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<v Speaker 8>as we know, was a you know, franchise and got

0:33:33.560 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 8>a huge contract.

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 8>You know, one of the highest contracts were in tier

0:33:37.680 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 8>defensive linemen in the NFL. He's kind of been held

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<v Speaker 8>at bay.

0:33:41.680 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 8>They went out and brought back a couple of defensive

0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 8>ends that they had, you know in years past, on

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 8>one year deal. It's just a couple of days ago,

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.600
<v Speaker 8>uh to sign into the practice squad. So you know,

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 8>when you look at the defense, you know the vulnerability.

0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 8>I would probably say there's still some area because you

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 8>have a couple of guys nicked up in the second

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.800
<v Speaker 8>Kyle Hamilton has played well, but he hasn't played to

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:06.080
<v Speaker 8>the elite level yet. And you know, he's kind of

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 8>been getting some plays here and there that people are targeting,

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 8>which is what's gonna happen when you're a great player

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 8>like he is. They have to find him out. So

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 8>you know, the pass rus hasn't been what they wanted.

0:34:16.360 --> 0:34:19.879
<v Speaker 8>Linebacker players pretty well, so they're just solid right now.

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 8>They're not doing anything great, and I think a lot

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:23.880
<v Speaker 8>of that has to do with the fact that it

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 8>is a new defensive coordinator. You're still trying to figure

0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 8>things out, like coordinators are trying to figure out what

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:30.799
<v Speaker 8>is his goal to what is he like to do?

0:34:30.840 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 8>And I think that's where Chris Wit, you know, it's

0:34:33.400 --> 0:34:35.719
<v Speaker 8>been extremely helpful because, like you said, you mentioned all

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 8>the players that were gone, well, you also lost, like

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 8>you said, the defensive coordinator, Mike McDonald, the head coach

0:34:40.600 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 8>of Seattle. You lost Dennard Wilson, who was the assistant

0:34:44.000 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 8>DV coach. He went down to beat the defensive coordinator

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:49.480
<v Speaker 8>in Tennessee. Anthony Weaver, the D line coach and run

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 8>game coordinator. He's down in Miami Dolphins as a defensive

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 8>coordinator there. So not only did you lose an abundance

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.040
<v Speaker 8>of players, you lost three very important coaches and the

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 8>only coach that was holdover was obviously Zach or and

0:35:00.640 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 8>Chris Hewitt as well.

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>So there there's.

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 8>Gonna be that learning curve, and so I think the

0:35:05.360 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 8>vulnerabilities there to some would be that they just don't

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 8>have the experience and then trying they're still trying to

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 8>figure out what this defense can do. Well, great, but

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 8>we all know the Raven defense. They're gonna they're gonna

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 8>line up, they're gonna knock you in the mouth, they're

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 8>gonna come after you on in blitter quarterback. Now there's

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 8>gonna be no no difference this week for Burrow. You

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:26.560
<v Speaker 8>know they're gonna they're gonna dolla some blitzers and get

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.919
<v Speaker 8>after it when they need to. And then they're gonna

0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:30.319
<v Speaker 8>try to figure out a way to show a ton

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 8>of blitzes and show you crazy odd looks and then

0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 8>dropping the zone and have a couple of fire zones

0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 8>where it's gonna look crazy, and then all of a sudden,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.120
<v Speaker 8>you're gonna see the defensive live and drop out to

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 8>take the middle hooks in the flat. So it's still

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 8>the same defense, it's just early in the season and

0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.319
<v Speaker 8>I think they're also uh and you guys know this,

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.000
<v Speaker 8>and then finding their footing on defense. The best defense

0:35:51.040 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 8>in the one sitting over on sideline stiffer and gatorade.

0:35:53.640 --> 0:35:55.759
<v Speaker 8>So when the offense is taking care of business and

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 8>running the football, controlling and time of possession that they're

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.279
<v Speaker 8>able to do you and you also are able to

0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 8>help your defense out because now the defense one isn't

0:36:04.880 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 8>out there, it's not getting exposed as much. The defense

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 8>is freshure physically, which is important early in the season

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 8>as guys because training camp is pretty much, you know,

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 8>a Christian around the league right now, so guys are

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 8>still getting their game legs under them, as we all

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 8>know this first month of the season. And then the

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 8>other part of it is now you help to make

0:36:23.360 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 8>the defense better because now the defensive goal every week

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 8>is one stop to one to create win third down,

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 8>to create turnovers and make a team one dimensional. Well,

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 8>guess what, when you're grounding and pounding and putting points

0:36:35.040 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 8>on the board, that clock is shrinking. Now all of

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 8>a sudden, you help your defense out because now teams

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 8>are starting to have to go one dimensional and throw

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 8>the football, which goes right into what the Ravens want

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 8>you to do.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 6>Final question, and really appreciate your expertise. Thanks for giving

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.680
<v Speaker 6>us some of your time. Tight end likely had nine

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 6>catches for one hundred eleven yards in the opener. He's

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.560
<v Speaker 6>had four receptions in the last three games. Andrews, I

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.800
<v Speaker 6>mean this this guy to me, I mean his uh,

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:10.399
<v Speaker 6>his his toughness, his body control had been second to none.

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.640
<v Speaker 6>Looks like he's struggling a little bit. What is going on?

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:16.440
<v Speaker 6>I mean, obviously they're running the football, so you know

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.360
<v Speaker 6>you can't you can't do both. You got to do

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 6>one of the other. And numbers are gonna suffer a

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 6>little bit in that passing attack. But in particular is Andrews.

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:28.760
<v Speaker 6>Is he still struggling physically or is he up to snuff?

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's a great question, lab. I mean, they're keeping

0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 8>everything tight to the vest. I've been to the building,

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.359
<v Speaker 8>been you know, been out there, and I kind of

0:37:36.400 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 8>noticed the same thing. He he doesn't seem like he's

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 8>running with the same as he did prior to obviously

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 8>him breaking his leg last year. I gave you guys

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 8>the Bengals in that game here, I believe it was Thursday.

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Night football, and so.

0:37:51.640 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it is. I think there's still some lingering effects

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:57.200
<v Speaker 8>that that we all know that Heat rushed to come back,

0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 8>and I shouldn't say rushed, but he was a to

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 8>come back in time for the playoffs because he really

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 8>wanted to play. And I know you've had you know,

0:38:05.120 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 8>six seven months since then. But I also look at it,

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 8>as you know, is it a situation that he's just

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 8>not one hundred percent. The other part of the teams

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 8>understand that, you know, in order to beat Lamar, you

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 8>have to take away his security blak. There's no there's

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 8>no question obviously that Mark Andrews is one of the

0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.720
<v Speaker 8>best tight ends of football and that's been a huge

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 8>part of Lamar's comfortability is having him to throw to.

0:38:28.360 --> 0:38:31.080
<v Speaker 8>So teams are also taking him away when you watch

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 8>him of the film, which is smart for them. And

0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 8>then you know, it's obviously turned into a situation that

0:38:36.120 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 8>was part of the reason why the passing game was

0:38:38.080 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 8>struggling in the first couple of weeks when the Ravens

0:38:39.920 --> 0:38:42.239
<v Speaker 8>lost a couple of games, because like you said, you know,

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 8>he's sitting here with six catches on the season. He

0:38:44.520 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 8>usually does that in a half, you know, in the

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 8>normal game, and he had no touchdowns this year, and

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.239
<v Speaker 8>he doesn't seem to be running the same So I

0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:55.640
<v Speaker 8>think there is probably something there. I think a lot

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 8>of it has to do with him being doubled and

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 8>taken out of the mix right now. And then obviously

0:39:00.640 --> 0:39:02.799
<v Speaker 8>the last couple of weeks being down you know, er

0:39:02.880 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 8>to two, it was it was a big push to

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 8>try to get this this shit back righted and they

0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:10.879
<v Speaker 8>really committed to the run game, and then Likely has

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 8>been a benefactor obviously the first couple of weeks of

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:16.280
<v Speaker 8>the season because of the fact that Mark was pretty

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.439
<v Speaker 8>much taken out the game plan by the defenses, because

0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:21.680
<v Speaker 8>they were like, if somebody's going to beat this, it's

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 8>not going to be Andrews, it's not going to be

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 8>eighty nine. And then you know, Likely stepped up, you know,

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 8>a couple of weeks, and then now they've been focused

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:31.360
<v Speaker 8>on the run. So I think that I think it

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 8>all opened backed up for him. Obviously for you guys,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 8>you hope it's not this week, but I think I

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.520
<v Speaker 8>think down the road, once you get to that running

0:39:38.520 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 8>game and start to play action, I think that you

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 8>could see. I think you could see the old Mark

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 8>Andrews re emerged, all right.

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