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Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition.

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Speaker 2: Excited to be back with all of you, just in

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Speaker 2: time for the DNC to descend upon Chicago, where the

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Speaker 2: number one question is how pronounced will the riots be

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Speaker 2: to distract from all of the insanity that is taking

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Speaker 2: place inside of the Democrat National Convention. Appreciate Buck holding

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Speaker 2: down the fort saying super nice things about us. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we made it to twenty years. Awesome time with my

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Speaker 2: wife Laura. We're out in Aspen, Colorado, Buck, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you've ever been out there. A lot of

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Speaker 2: you think of the Dumb and Dumber movie immediately. It

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Speaker 2: was beautiful, fantastic, extraordinary. I like Colorado in the summer

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Speaker 2: more than I like Colorado in the winter because I'm

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Speaker 2: not a cold weather guy.

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Speaker 1: But it was amazing.

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Speaker 2: We met a lot of people out there that are

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Speaker 2: listeners that were traveling from all over the place. Much

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Speaker 2: of Texas, it feels like, relocates two places like Colorado,

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Speaker 2: so there were tons of Texans running around everywhere.

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Speaker 1: Just awesome time.

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Speaker 2: But we are now officially in Kamala, Harris having to

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Speaker 2: be on the road and interact a bit season and

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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what time Buck her economic speech

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Speaker 2: was I think it was maybe the last hour of

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Speaker 2: the show on Friday, if I remember correctly, when you

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Speaker 2: were on. But it feels like that speech punctured in

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Speaker 2: many ways the Kamala balloon, as even the Washington Post CNN,

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Speaker 2: we're teeing off on the outrageous economic plans that she

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Speaker 2: laid out, and all day yesterday she was on the

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Speaker 2: road in western Pennsylvania and trying to interact with voters

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Speaker 2: and convince them that she is their choice. And basically

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Speaker 2: this election comes down to Pennsylvania. The more I look

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Speaker 2: at the map, if Trump wins North Carolina and Georgia,

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Speaker 2: and I think he will, and he wins Pennsylvania, no

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Speaker 2: other state matters. It doesn't matter what happens in Michigan,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter what happens in Wisconsin, Nevada, Arizona. Those are

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Speaker 2: all still battleground states. But if Trump wins Georgia and

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Speaker 2: North Carolina, which I think he will, and then wins Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: He's got the necessary electoral votes to be there. So

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Speaker 2: I think as Pennsylvania goes, likely this election is going

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Speaker 2: to go. And the more I thought about it while

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Speaker 2: I was out buck I'm back in Optimism Camp Optimism.

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Speaker 3: I knew it a week in Aspen, and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, he's on the island.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 2: I just I just can't imagine. Pennsylvania is the third

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Speaker 2: most rural state in America. There are a lot of

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Speaker 2: working class white football fans. How Lujah football is back

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Speaker 2: this week, by the way, I can't imagine that all

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Speaker 2: of these big ten fans penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin

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Speaker 2: fans for instance, are going to break for Kamala at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: That's ultimately what I think it comes down to.

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Speaker 3: And when you look at the numbers, it is those

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Speaker 3: voters spread across those key states who will be the

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Speaker 4: It's remarkable.

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Speaker 3: We have a country of three hundred and fifty million

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Speaker 3: or so, who knows how many legals, and you have

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Speaker 3: a massive electorate, and it really will be decided in

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Speaker 3: And I think those people are particularly likely to break

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Speaker 3: for Trump if they're going to break either way. The

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Speaker 3: latest data has also been showing that RFK Junior does

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Speaker 3: pull a little more from Trump than he does from Hillary,

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Speaker 3: which has been my concern all along. I wonder if

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Speaker 3: he is going to stay in this or if he

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Speaker 3: will make an endorsement. We didn't get to talk about

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Speaker 3: this last week, Clay, but that's certainly at issue. But

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Speaker 3: right now, for me, remember the whole jd Vance and

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Speaker 3: Trump are a weird thing. Yes, they tried that. That's

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Speaker 4: Just trying everything.

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Speaker 3: They're throwing everything they can at the wall and seeing

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Speaker 3: what sticks. But as the DNC is kicking off, Clay,

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Speaker 3: they have the people that say that our ticket or

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Speaker 3: the Trump Dvance ticket is weird, have an eighteen foot

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Speaker 4: Freedom Womb at the DNC. Did you see us.

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Speaker 3: They have mobile trucks providing abortions and vasectomies at the DNC.

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Speaker 3: They have women dressed up in abortion pill costumes marching

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Speaker 4: Now, you and I were at the RNC, yes.

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Speaker 3: And whatever one thinks about you know, the policies that

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Speaker 4: It was very normal.

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Speaker 3: There were normal people there. Everybody was there gathered to

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Speaker 3: so there was really a solemnity to the proceedings as well,

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Speaker 4: Foot tall i U d's. These people are insane. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is the part of this.

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Speaker 3: I know we have to talk about the rioters and

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Speaker 3: the possibility of some hamasma. It's all cosplay for these idiots.

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Speaker 3: They're all gonna vote, that's the thing. They're free palacedine

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Speaker 3: and they're all gonna vote for Biden anyway, and that's

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Speaker 3: why they're gonna get ignored. They just they do this

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Speaker 3: clay because they think it's fun and it makes them

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Speaker 3: feel important, but it doesn't actually mean anything about a

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Speaker 3: political shift whatever these riots are gonna be, or these

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Speaker 4: Cops on the street.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that they tried to say that we

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Speaker 3: were like our team was the weird team.

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Speaker 4: These people are freaks. There's something wrong with a lot

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Speaker 4: of these Democrats.

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Speaker 2: Is there a more perfect metaphor for male loserdum than

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Speaker 2: getting your ball snipped and then going to watch Kamala speak?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine? Can you imagine think about this?

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine go being a DNC delegate who is

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Speaker 2: a man point one like that is basically like metaphorically

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Speaker 2: you have no balls, but literally our boy Jesse Kelly

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Speaker 2: hates the use of the word literally, but literally getting

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Speaker 2: your ball snipped, and then you celebrate by going to

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Speaker 1: It is impossible to have.

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Speaker 2: A more perfect metaphor for the men who support Kamala

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Speaker 1: And remember when the.

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Speaker 2: Democrat parties politics, according to Bill Clinton at least, was

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Speaker 2: that abortion should be safe, legal, and rare. That was

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Speaker 2: the big talking point. Now there's a point of pride

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Speaker 2: that they're giving abortions away at the DNC. And also

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Speaker 2: again the snipping of the of the men the vasectomies.

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Speaker 2: It's profoundly anti reproduction and also anti family. The Democrats

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Speaker 2: really have become the party, I mean when they went

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Speaker 2: after jd Vance over the childless cat ladies thing, they're

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Speaker 2: really the party that doesn't believe in having children, which

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Speaker 2: when you're having the Party of abortion and you're the

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Speaker 2: You are erasing yourselves from the genealogy of America. And

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Speaker 2: many of you out there are like, well, you know,

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Speaker 2: a good thing if you're going to be a super leftist,

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Speaker 2: but it's a profoundly they talk about the Party of

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Speaker 2: Joy not wanting to have children is a profoundly anti

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Speaker 2: joy process in my opinion, uh, because what it represents

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Speaker 2: is a lack of faith in the future for many people.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not talking about people who struggle to have children.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, ultimately, a baby is a vote for

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Speaker 2: America's future and humanity's future, and it's hard not to

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Speaker 2: be optimistic when you have a baby in your arms

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Speaker 2: and forward thinking that they would become the party that

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Speaker 2: doesn't believe by that's a good thing because climate change

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's an argument they make. I think it

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Speaker 2: That is Kamala is a joyful, super proud and effervescent politician.

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Speaker 2: She's actually the opposite of that. Everything that she sells,

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Speaker 3: Her peak was, and I think all the eventually all

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Speaker 3: the data will show this eventually, meaning after the election,

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Speaker 3: because I think they're going to try to massage this

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Speaker 4: It was in the first.

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Speaker 3: Week of her of her declared as the candidate, I mean,

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Speaker 3: is amazing, look at this pivot. Kamala Harris is a

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Speaker 3: uniquely awful political figure. She is not charming, she is

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Speaker 4: More likely they will be to vote for someone else.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knows this, even the Democrats in the media who

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Speaker 3: whole game now is they are the explainers and translators

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Speaker 3: of kamala Ism, with price controls and all these other

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Speaker 3: things that came. We'll talk we'll talk about that speech Friday,

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Speaker 3: because we wanted to both get into some of these

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Speaker 3: job is to translate to people who Kamala is and

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Speaker 4: Okay, we've seen this movie.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty, Kamala was quote by her own admission,

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Speaker 4: Remember when she said that. She says, oh, I'm a

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Speaker 3: And then the voters actually voted and she was a

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Speaker 3: very similar to the voting pattern they had with Fetterman.

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Speaker 3: Although Fetterman's gotten better, there's whole other part of this.

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Speaker 2: And I do think Fetterman's, by the way, not going

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Speaker 2: When Kamala ran in twenty twenty, buck you remember the

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Speaker 2: absolute apex of her campaign came in one of the

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Speaker 2: Immediately after that moment, she had a sugar hide blip

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Speaker 2: in the polls where she was the favorite to be

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Speaker 2: the nominee to take on Donald Trump in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: She was what Democrats actually wanted to pick right the minority,

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Speaker 2: the California Liberal. She actually represents what Democrats wanted to

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Speaker 2: believe that their party represented, not Joe Biden. But she

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Speaker 2: was so awful on the campaign trail that she didn't

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Speaker 2: even make it to the voting in Iowa. She dropped

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Speaker 2: out beforehand. And I do believe there is a connection here.

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Speaker 2: The more time people spend watching Kamala, the less they

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Speaker 2: like her. And you and me and everybody out there

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Speaker 2: listening to us right now knows that Kamala is not

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Speaker 2: up for this job. Because we pay attention to politics

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Speaker 2: on a day to day basis, most Americans, especially those

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Speaker 2: the people in Pennsylvania, Georgia, North Carolina, Michigan, Wisconsin, they

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Speaker 2: haven't really spent much time thinking about Kamala. She's a

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Speaker 2: to think actually she may be worse than Biden, which

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Speaker 4: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane.

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Speaker 3: The Kamala campaign, perhaps stahould call it the Kamala charade.

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Speaker 3: I have a sense as to who the undecided male

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Speaker 3: voter in the swing states and when really it's the Midwestern,

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Speaker 3: it's the Big Three.

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Speaker 4: Now it's Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know that anyone's gonna spend that much

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Speaker 3: time thinking about or analyzing the others at this stage.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, But what what is the you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, like in your mind, who is the female voter?

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Speaker 3: And maybe we have some listening Please call if you're

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Speaker 3: an undecided voter in one of those states.

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Speaker 4: But what are they waiting to hear?

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Speaker 2: Do you know?

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Speaker 3: That's kind of what is left for them? Is it

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Speaker 3: just an economic calculation the same way it is for

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Speaker 3: the guys. Okay, in that case, I feel like the

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Speaker 3: messaging doesn't have to be along gender line.

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Speaker 4: Do you see what I mean?

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Speaker 3: The messaging that would work for the you know, the

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Speaker 3: guy who's a tradesman or you know, a pipefitter, steel worker,

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Speaker 3: whatever it may be. In Pennsylvania, Michigan, you know a teamster.

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Speaker 3: That same economic message I think would translate for a member.

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Speaker 3: It's really about married women versus unmarried women in the

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Speaker 3: in the electorate as well. Married women Trump does okay,

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Speaker 3: Trump's okay with with with married women. It's not great,

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Speaker 3: but it's it's okay. It's unmarried women where Trump just

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Speaker 3: gets a annihilated yes. And I don't know that he

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Speaker 3: has really I mean, your your strategy of trying to

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Speaker 3: put a woman out there to speak to them makes sense.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know if Trump can move that. I

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Speaker 3: think the best we can hope for is there's low

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Speaker 3: turnout among that demographic. I don't know if Trump can

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Speaker 3: win over I don't think he can win over unmarried

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Speaker 3: women from where they are right now in any meaningful way.

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Speaker 2: Do you buy into me that Trump's gonna win men

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Speaker 2: by double digits like you agree with that thesis. So

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Speaker 2: if Trump's gonna win men by double digits, and I

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Speaker 2: think Kamala is likely to win women by double digits,

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Speaker 2: then the election might well be decided by to your

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Speaker 2: point limiting turnout, which is often a function of dampening

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Speaker 2: down hate for Trump. What I hear a lot from

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Speaker 2: women is emotionally, they don't connect with Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: People always send me emails like I love Trump, I

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Speaker 2: emotionally connect with him. My wife is a good example

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Speaker 2: of this. She was saying she watched the coverage of

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Speaker 2: the rn C and when they had Hulk Cogan, Dana White,

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Speaker 2: and Kid Rock play back to back to back, they said, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is not appealing to any women, And my wife

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Speaker 2: was like, are you kidding me? I love Hul Cogan,

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Speaker 2: I love Dana White, I love Kid Rock. I can't imagine,

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Speaker 2: but the three men in a row leading into Trump

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Speaker 2: was the argument not particularly appealing to a lot of women.

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Speaker 1: My wife is an exception. She loved that.

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Speaker 2: But what I hear from women when I'm out is

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Speaker 2: not anything other than emotion He emotionally offends them in

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Speaker 2: some way. And I think part of it is they

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Speaker 2: have just decided that he is Many women have decided

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Speaker 2: that he is the guy friend.

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Speaker 1: That they don't like.

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Speaker 2: Every man in America has a guy friend that your

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Speaker 2: girlfriend or your wife does not like. And if you're like,

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Speaker 2: that's not true, My wife loves You're probably the guy,

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Speaker 2: all right. Everybody has a guy friend that when the

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Speaker 2: you go out to get a beer with that guy,

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Speaker 2: or you go play golf with him, or you're going

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Speaker 2: on trip going to a game, every woman is like,

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Speaker 2: I don't like that guy, and it's hard to get

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Speaker 2: him to change their mind. I do think what happens

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Speaker 2: sometimes that guy gets married, that guy has a new girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: That's how you change the perception.

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Speaker 2: If Tulci Gabbert, who I think is an incredible advocate,

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Speaker 2: we've had her a lot on this show, Buck you

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Speaker 2: like her as well.

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Speaker 1: If Trump said.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna be in the cabinet and he put her

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Speaker 2: on the trail and he let her go after Kamala,

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Speaker 2: I think that could be really appealing to some women.

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Speaker 2: Not a lot, but some women would say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: maybe I haven't been considering things as rationally as I

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Speaker 2: should have been. I like Tulsi Gabbert. She appeals to me.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with Dicky Haley. I think if you put

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Speaker 2: both those women in your cabinet, I think that there

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Speaker 2: would be a chance that you could peel away some

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Speaker 2: of the women out there. Look, this is what Kamala

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Speaker 2: tried to do with walls. You and I think he's

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Speaker 2: a loser and an incompetent, not very likable dude. But

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Speaker 2: they're trying to say, look, we have a Midwestern normal guy.

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Speaker 2: He has a god, he wears Carhart, he coached football.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to appeal to men by picking walls. There

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Speaker 2: isn't a female equivalent of walls. Even if you roll

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Speaker 2: your eyes and think it's bs that Trump has trotted

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Speaker 2: out yet.

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Speaker 3: I still think that vps don't make a difference really,

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Speaker 3: and and in this case, it's the difference was the

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Speaker 3: lost opportunity of putting Shapiro on the Kamala ticket.

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Speaker 4: And I think we all know why.

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Speaker 1: I hope they have to pay a price for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that's that's a really bad move.

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Speaker 3: And I do believe that that was Kamala's move and

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Speaker 3: that it was personal and an ego based for her,

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Speaker 3: which would be quite fitting if that's why she ends

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Speaker 3: up losing this election. But I think that you know,

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Speaker 3: Trump saying he's gonna have women on his ticket, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, if you're a woman and you're gonna vote

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Speaker 3: for Trump, you're already voting for Trump. That's as far

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Speaker 3: as I I don't think any of them are.

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Speaker 4: Changing in their mind.

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Speaker 1: What do you lose by doing it?

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Speaker 4: You don't lose anything.

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Speaker 2: It's fine and you have a tiny little Maybe it

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Speaker 2: just helps with the pen prick.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 3: I mean trying to now that people understand the demographics

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Speaker 3: of the voter demographics in the key states, trump outreach

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Speaker 3: to the black community is not a primary consideration right now,

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Speaker 3: just because they know they're not going to be able

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Speaker 3: to move the needle very much.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 1: Here's another question for you. We'll talk about it a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 2: Don't you think Tulsi actually responds Men respond to her

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Speaker 2: well too. I think she has a unique appeal where

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Speaker 2: women like her because they can see herself in them.

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Speaker 2: But also I think men really like Tulsi too, So

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Speaker 2: I think you kind of get a double header there.

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Speaker 1: Just something to think about.

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Speaker 2: Sure, And the again, the other question is who is

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Speaker 2: the most prominent female surrogate for Trump right now? They

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Speaker 2: tried walls? Did they tried that in the Democrat side?

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Speaker 2: Who's the Republican equivalent? I think it's worth considering. Look,

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in. You know, one thing we haven't talked

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Speaker 3: about yet with regard to the DNC, and it is

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Speaker 3: it is noteworthy. First off, they'll there'll be some protests.

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Speaker 3: You know, there'll be some Antifa like.

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Speaker 4: We're fighting fascism. And that's before they get their balls clipped, Clay,

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Speaker 4: we're fighting fascism.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just saying there's gonna be some of that,

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Speaker 4: Like free Palestine and you.

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Speaker 3: Know, okay, whatever, but what do they even mean They

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Speaker 3: don't you know, if they don't know you want to

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Speaker 3: be free, you can't have Hamas in charge.

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Speaker 4: Hate to break it to you, but anyway.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, just just just going down the list

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Speaker 3: of these things. But one unique component of the d

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Speaker 3: NC this week is that the would be nominee and

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Speaker 3: the now drowned residents of Buck Island are all very

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Speaker 3: bitter about this. The you know, we lost all of

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Speaker 3: our belongings. We you know, just swept away into the ocean.

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Speaker 3: Clay Town high and dry.

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Speaker 4: But it was so close. It was so close. They

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Speaker 4: even had Biden.

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Speaker 3: As Clay pointed out, he's still on the party platform and.

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Speaker 4: Biden.

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Speaker 3: They really were doing this everyone. Biden was the guy.

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Speaker 3: He was not stepping down. They were somehow able to

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Speaker 3: And if the polls had started to turn in his

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Speaker 3: favor even a little bit in July, he would.

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Speaker 4: Have been the guy. He absolutely would have been the guy.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't going anywhere, and shows you how ruthless he

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Speaker 3: is and how dishonest the Democrats are. What's interesting is

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Speaker 3: that in this DNC, Joe Biden's got to give a

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Speaker 3: speech and they're calling it the passing of the Torch speech.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna feel a lot more.

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Speaker 3: Like he's making some kind of a hostage video here, Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I said I'd be the nominee and this was my

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Speaker 3: life's work all coming to this moment. But then you

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Speaker 3: jerks told me that I couldn't win and yelled at

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Speaker 3: me so much that I just said, fine, I'll take

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Speaker 3: my sippy cup and go somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Else like this is.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be a little depressing, I think for some

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Speaker 3: people to watch Biden have to bend the knee and

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Speaker 3: crown Kamala.

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Speaker 2: He's also already given this speech because he gave his

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Speaker 2: oval office. I'm leaving address now. The one question I

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Speaker 2: have generally speaking, there is not much news that comes

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Speaker 2: out of the Republican National Convention or the Democrat National

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Speaker 2: Convention general rule. What if tonight, buck Joe Biden said,

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Speaker 2: and I've decided that not only should Kamala be the

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Speaker 2: next president of the United States, but I am stepping

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Speaker 2: down effect div immediately, and she is now the president

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Speaker 2: of the United States. I don't think it will happen,

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Speaker 2: but I'm trying to think of what blockbuster outcomes could

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Speaker 2: occur other than riot, looting and everything else.

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Speaker 3: And this is when I'm reminded that history is so

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Speaker 3: often determined not by competing strategies, but by competing egos,

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Speaker 3: individual narcissism, and obsession with the self.

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Speaker 4: This is true. You can see this all throughout history.

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Speaker 4: You'd say, wait, why didn't they do this?

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Speaker 3: The obvious move was to, you know, to invade or

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Speaker 3: to not invade, or to reinforce these troops, or to

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Speaker 3: step down from the monarchy, whatever it may be. So

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Speaker 3: many times you think it didn't make sense as strategy,

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Speaker 3: but it made sense as ego, as in there was

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Speaker 3: a person who just said, no, what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: I think would clearly be the best thing for the

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Speaker 3: Democrat Party, which is to elevate Amlatuin incumbent, because then

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Speaker 3: that creates a sense of continuity of normalcy of she's

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Speaker 3: already the president. Let's give her a full shot here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, and there's just a certain it's

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Speaker 3: you have the title, you're the president.

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Speaker 4: However, you got it, you're the president. It won't happen

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Speaker 4: in my mind, I mean I would.

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Speaker 3: I would think the odds on this you'd get like

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Speaker 3: a you know, very very low ten to one kind

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Speaker 3: of situation. And I think it's because Joe Biden is

675
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Speaker 3: such a maniac that he insists on finishing out his term.

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Speaker 3: He will not go down in history as I didn't

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Speaker 3: finish a term because I had dementia. He will not

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Speaker 3: do it, even though to your point, that would be

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Speaker 3: the only way they could make not just news, but

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Speaker 3: perhaps make an impact with this week. I think the

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Speaker 3: whole media is hoping, Clay, that they just that this

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Speaker 3: is a do no harm DNC. Yeah, it just kind

683
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Speaker 3: of happens, and that they can just say what they

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Speaker 3: want about Kamala and they move on.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, and this was I think, actually,

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Speaker 2: when the full story comes out, I think this was

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Speaker 2: part of the Joe Biden negotiation that he would get

688
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Speaker 2: to finish his term and as a result, they would

689
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Speaker 2: stop putting pressure on him as soon as he stepped down.

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Speaker 2: But if he were actually trying to do what is

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Speaker 2: in the best interest of his party, I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's in the best interest of the country. Although as

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Speaker 2: much as I think Kamala Harris is a disaster, I

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Speaker 2: do think she has cognitive function that works all day

695
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Speaker 2: and Joe Biden does not. So I don't think Kamala

696
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Speaker 2: would make good decisions, but I think she's capable of

697
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Speaker 2: making decisions all day long. Where I really genuinely don't

698
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: think Joe Biden is. I think he's got mental and

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Speaker 2: physical frailties that make his cognition not work. The best

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Speaker 2: thing they could actually do, certainly for the Democrats and

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Speaker 2: arguably for the country, would be stepped down tonight.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he'll do it, to your point, because

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Speaker 2: I think his ego is too strong I think his

705
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: family is too committed. They don't want video like Nixon

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Speaker 2: style where he throws up the peace sign and flies

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Speaker 2: off in a helicopter from the lawn.

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Speaker 3: They already threw everything they had at him to get

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Speaker 3: him to step. Do you know what what threats are

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Speaker 3: they gonna make now they already clipped his wings.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't really care at this.

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Speaker 2: But if he truly wanted to be George Washington, which

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Speaker 2: they're going to try to compare him to to now

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Speaker 2: Cincinnatus for those of you out there that are really

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Speaker 2: old school, yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 4: The general who just wanted to be on the farm.

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Speaker 1: That's right, just wanted to go back and plow.

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Speaker 2: If they were actually going to make that argument, if

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Speaker 2: they got John Meacham and Michael Beschlos and all these

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Speaker 2: historians that talked about how Joe Biden was the modern

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Speaker 2: day FDR, this would actually be the way to elevate

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Speaker 2: himself to a different level. He's the president who voluntarily

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Speaker 2: gave up power for the betterment of the country.

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Speaker 1: And then if.

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Speaker 2: Kamala won, historically his residence would look better. His ego

726
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: is too much to do it, but I do think

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Speaker 2: it's worth just kind of putting in the back of

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Speaker 2: your mom what big news story that would help Kamala

729
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: could come out of the DNC. To me, this is

730
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Speaker 2: the one that's the one coupdi gras major genuflection at

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Speaker 2: the altar of Kamala that makes her ascendancy more likely

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Speaker 2: that could occur. I don't think it's likely to your point.

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Speaker 2: I'd put it at twenty to one, but I do

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Speaker 2: think in the back of your mind it's worth contemplating.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Now there's another problem though with this, and there I

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Speaker 3: was watching Morning Joe was weak this Morning Clay. Honestly,

738
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Speaker 3: the propaganda not getting it done for me. I was

739
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Speaker 3: a little bit like, I was a little wanted.

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Speaker 2: They were too they were too too honest, too good

741
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Speaker 2: at what they were doing.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't too it was just it was it was nothing.

743
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Speaker 3: It was just kind of you know, DNC rah rah DNC,

744
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Speaker 3: Like there was no I need. I need like them

745
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Speaker 3: to be truly mendacious. I need Soviet style. That's usually

746
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Speaker 3: what they give me. I turn on Morning Joe looking

747
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: for that Soviet style propaganda where they tell me up

748
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: is down and down is up. And when they don't deliver, Mika,

749
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Speaker 3: I get a little upset, Mika. Okay, I get a

750
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Speaker 3: little hissy about it. And the problem I think they

751
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: have with this narrative they're probably gonna have on John Meacham,

752
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: and they love to do on that show, particularly on MSNBC,

753
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Speaker 3: to bring on the presidential historian, as if.

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Speaker 4: That's I don't I don't the presidential story.

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Speaker 3: I don't care like so you you spent a lot

756
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: of time in the archives about some guy who's president

757
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 3: two hundred years ago, and now I'm supposed to be like, oh, well,

758
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 3: whatever you say about the you know, carried interest tax loophole,

759
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: like it's ridiculous. But Biden clung to power with all

760
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Speaker 3: the ferocity of his bony old fingers.

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Speaker 4: Okay, and we all saw it over and over again.

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Speaker 3: I'm the nominee. I'm the nominee. That's nonsense. That's nonsense.

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Speaker 3: George Washington, George Washington, you know, made the decision to

764
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Speaker 3: step down.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like he was telling everybody vote for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm the only future of the country for months and

767
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 3: then he was like, psych, I'm stepping down. So I'm

768
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Speaker 3: just saying, yes, you're right. They will try this. But

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Speaker 3: on its face, this is a laughable narrative. Biden is

770
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Speaker 3: kicked off, that they shoved him aside, and it was

771
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Speaker 3: not a decision that he made an interest of anybody

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Speaker 3: other than the Biden families' finances going forward.

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Speaker 2: Also as somebody who majored in history, and there's a

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Speaker 2: different multiverse out there where I went and got a

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00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 2: PhD in history, and I'm sitting around in some university

776
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: still teaching history, like there is a world where that

777
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: could have happened. I love history, historians are not very

778
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: useful diagnosing real time issues in how they're going to

779
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: play in the historical context. And any of you out

780
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Speaker 2: there that love reading history, like Buck and I both,

781
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Speaker 2: do you recognize that people still argue sometimes for hundreds

782
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Speaker 2: even thousands of years over whether a general made a

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Speaker 2: right decision at a battle, over whether a leader made

784
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 2: the right choice, and even things that we now consider

785
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: to be completely decided are sometimes takes decades, fifty sixty

786
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: eighty years for that to be the case. Good good example,

787
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: most people now would say, yeah, FDR shouldn't have put

788
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: Japanese people in internment camps during World War Two.

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Speaker 4: I think everyone says that I don't get anyone those

790
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: people say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's very few.

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Speaker 2: There's probably a few people out there there like that

793
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: was the strongest move FDR ever made in real time.

794
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: Buck a historian certainly would have come out and said,

795
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: this is in no way an irrational move by FDR, because,

796
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: for instance, again history nerd here, Abraham Lincoln suspended the

797
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: writ of habeas corpus during the Civil War. He could

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Speaker 2: just throw anybody that he wanted in prison without needing

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Speaker 2: to bring them in front of the h in front

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Speaker 2: of the judge, and in retrospect, because Lincoln won the

801
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Speaker 2: Civil War, almost no one talks about that. But I

802
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: guarantee you that they had radio shows talking about current

803
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: events back in the day, they would have brought on

804
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: some Civil War historian and he would have said, well,

805
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: this is one hundred percent defensible by FDR, because look

806
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: at what Lincoln did, rid of habeas corpus, wartime changes

807
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Speaker 2: the law, look my reality on it is. Oftentimes what

808
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: a historian would say is totally wrong when other historians

809
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Speaker 2: analyze the legacy of history.

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Speaker 3: And so these days the big problem for current events

811
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Speaker 3: is crazy. The big problem for some of these historians is,

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Speaker 3: I mean, what was Lincoln's policy on trans bathroom usage.

813
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: I mean, there's just not enough of a you know,

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Speaker 3: That's that's really what the historians are today. They're like,

815
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Speaker 3: I mean, would Abraham Lincoln obviously have supported biological men

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Speaker 3: competing in women's sports in the Olympics.

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Speaker 4: We don't know what Honesty would have said.

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Speaker 2: Would Abraham Lincoln even buck have been a man if

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Speaker 2: he were alive today, he might have decided to identify

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Speaker 2: as a woman.

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Speaker 3: Honesty could have been the first woman president. I know,

822
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Speaker 3: but that that this is the stuff that histories. Most

823
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Speaker 3: historians today spend their time on nonsense like this. I'll

824
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 3: just tell you they spend their time on what is

825
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: it historiography? And I'm trying to think of the phrase

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Speaker 3: that they used for when.

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Speaker 2: They historiography by itself is such a nerdy word. I

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Speaker 2: bet five percent of our audience knows that, but anybody

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Speaker 2: who studies history. I did my thesis on the burning

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Speaker 2: of Chambersburg, Pennsylvania book, which was the only time the

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Speaker 2: Confederacy South burned down a union a northern city, and

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Speaker 2: I analyzed the this is you want to talk about nerds?

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Speaker 2: I analyzed the voting data from eighteen sixty in Chambersburg, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: and compared it with eighteen sixty four to try to

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Speaker 2: determine whether if the South had adopted more of a

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Speaker 2: total war mindset, much like Sherman on his March to

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Speaker 2: the Sea, would that have potentially altered the outcome of

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Speaker 2: the eighteen sixty four presidential election.

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Speaker 1: That was my thesis. So I'm a nerds on history.

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Speaker 4: That sounds pretty good. I actually would read it. I

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Speaker 4: did it us nothing, you.

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Speaker 2: Know what I found it would have changed the outcome

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Speaker 2: of the eighteen sixty four election.

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Speaker 1: If Robert E.

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Speaker 2: the North, Lincoln would have lost in sixty four.

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Speaker 1: He didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: Only city to ever be burned Chambersburg, Pennsylvania, by Jewbeil

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Speaker 6: Buck podcast.

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Speaker 4: A new episode every Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, joined now

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Speaker 2: by Charlie Gasprino. Fox Business got a brand new book out.

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Speaker 2: Going to dive into that and more, But let's just

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Speaker 2: start right off the top. How crazy was Kamala's economic

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Speaker 2: speech on Friday? From your perspective as someone that understands

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Speaker 2: the economy a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, if you like what happens in Venezuela

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Speaker 5: and the old Soviet Union, it's completely normal. But if

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Speaker 5: you know you're if you're any sort of half sentian

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Speaker 5: student of history, or you've taken econ one on one,

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Speaker 5: I don't think you need to take econ one on one.

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Speaker 5: I think you just needs to bounce a checking account

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Speaker 5: to understand. That was one of the dumbest things I've

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Speaker 5: ever heard in my life, particularly the sort of cross contradictions,

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Speaker 5: Like she's going to get rid of inflation, that's a

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Speaker 5: big thing, but she's gonna like put these price controls

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Speaker 5: on stuff that's gonna limit supply, that's gonna make inflation

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Speaker 5: even worse. I mean, that's been the history of it.

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Speaker 5: You know when you start, you know, mandating prices from

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Speaker 5: what stuff should be depriced, government creating an agency to

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Speaker 5: do that. It just it creates shortages. It's dumb, it's

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Speaker 5: it's futile. I still can't believe she's getting away with

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Speaker 5: it as much as she is with the mainstream media,

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Speaker 5: because you know, business journalists generally, you know, read balance

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Speaker 5: sheets every now and then. At least I used to

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Speaker 5: a lot. You would think some of these people, the

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Speaker 5: New York Times and the and the the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 5: not the editorial page, but the you know, the news pages,

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Speaker 5: that they had some sort of inkling about basic economics.

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Speaker 5: To laugh this thing out of the park. I just

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Speaker 5: think it's it's pathetic. And uh, it's where Democratic Party

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Speaker 5: is going. I mean, I mean think about it. Bill

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Speaker 5: Clinton is going to speak at the d n C.

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Speaker 5: I think in two days, right. You know, he when

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Speaker 5: he was president, he did just the opposite, just the opposite.

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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, he lower he worked with

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Speaker 5: newke Engrish of the lower capital gains. He freed up

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Speaker 5: the internet. He did not impose massive regulations and created

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Speaker 5: a vast new technology. You know, he lowered taxes in

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Speaker 5: his in the second term he enacted welfare reform, He

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Speaker 5: did all the things that she is now running again.

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Speaker 5: It was Bill. She's actually running against Bill Clinton. And

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Speaker 5: it's fascinating what happened during the Clinton years, which was

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Speaker 5: let's sally that second term. It was a remarkable four

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Speaker 5: years of economic growth. And look what we got now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just amazing where the Democratic Party has gone.

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Speaker 5: It's gone, it's gone wickedly socialist.

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Speaker 3: Talking to Charlie Gasparino got a new book out, Go Woke,

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Speaker 3: Go Broke, the inside story of the radicalization of corporate America. Charlie,

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Speaker 3: just back on the Democrat versus Republican view of the

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Speaker 3: economy right now. Obviously, Democrats are trying to say that

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Speaker 3: this is a strong economy despite the very high prices

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Speaker 3: and the inflation that has been a major challenge for

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Speaker 3: Biden all along. Do you think that this is going

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Speaker 3: to be an area where the propaganda just is insufficient,

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Speaker 3: as in, no matter how many times they tell persuadable

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Speaker 3: voters the economy is good, they feel it themselves in

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Speaker 3: a way where they know that's not true. Or are

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Speaker 3: you concerned that maybe they can fool people on this one?

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Speaker 5: Well, they they do have. You know, they do have

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Speaker 5: soldiers in their fight, which is most of the mainstream media.

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Speaker 5: You take a few you know, heterodox views out of

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Speaker 5: the mainstream media, and it's it's very much a cheerleading

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Speaker 5: section for for this economy and for Joe Biden, for

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Speaker 5: Kamal Harris. What I do think though, that you know,

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Speaker 5: given all the cheerleading that's going into into the left

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Speaker 5: of these days from the media, particularly if you know,

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Speaker 5: on running against Trump, because I think that the mainstream

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Speaker 5: media generally considers Trump is you know, sort of an

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Speaker 5: existential threat to democracy and the and you know, the

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Speaker 5: world peace.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: They look at him as you know, sort of another

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Speaker 5: level evil.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And that you know, they they wouldn't look at it.

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Speaker 5: If Ron the Santus runs. I'm not saying he would

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Speaker 5: have gotten a better shake out of the mainstream media,

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Speaker 5: but it would have been less sort of, it would

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Speaker 5: have been less hot be that a that may puff

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Speaker 5: is still either winning right now or just a little

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Speaker 5: bit behind, even despite this love affair. And the reason

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Speaker 5: why that is is because people just kind of know it.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you could tell someone they feel good, they

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Speaker 5: should feel good, but if they you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: how some doctors say, well, you should you're fine, but

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Speaker 5: you feel lousy. Then you go and get in second opinion,

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Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, you know, you realize you're sick.

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Speaker 5: You know, most Americans don't when you tell them they

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Speaker 5: feel good, and they don't feel good when they know

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Speaker 5: that the rate of inflation is down from its peak,

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Speaker 5: but prices have not come down, and they know their

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Speaker 5: waves having kept up with those prices, which is the

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Speaker 5: obvious reality of the last four years, is no about

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Speaker 5: a spinning And if you know what keeps Trump in

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Speaker 5: this race, I think is the fact that for all

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Speaker 5: the stuff that he says, and he says some things

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Speaker 5: that he probably shouldn't say, stuff that you know, gets

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Speaker 5: them in trouble all the time, the reality is when

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Speaker 5: he ran things that the country was in better economic shape,

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Speaker 5: then when Kamala Harris and Joe Biden brant things, and

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Speaker 5: it's hard to spin out of that. And that's why

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Speaker 5: this race is close. It's also close because you know,

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump just does not He's not run an effective campaign.

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Speaker 5: That might change now kind of seems like it is.

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Speaker 5: Lately he seems to be honing in on the message

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Speaker 5: of the economy you know, I wrote a whole book

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Speaker 5: about corporate wokeness. I mean Americans take that too. I mean, here,

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Speaker 5: here's the thing I will say. If there's one thing

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Speaker 5: I kind of analogize, and when when I think why

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Speaker 5: I think Trump is probably going to win despite everything

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Speaker 5: he says. That gets some in trouble. You know, when

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Speaker 5: I did this book, I one of the things that's

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Speaker 5: so obvious is that if you take Budweiser that went woke,

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Speaker 5: wickedly woke with a woman, as as as essentially an influencer, Disney,

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Speaker 5: which you know, felt the need to gratuitously insert same

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Speaker 5: sex kissing scenes in the children's cartoons. Target which had

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Speaker 5: its gay Gay Pride month displayed that had touugh friendly

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Speaker 5: bathing suits next to rainbow colored onesies. The sort of

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Speaker 5: leftism of the investment community through environmental social governments, and

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Speaker 5: what happened at black Rock at each of those instances,

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Speaker 5: and I'm leaving out many more. That's I'll read it

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Speaker 5: in the book. The consumer rejected it viciously. The Blackrock

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Speaker 5: was two trillion dollars in assets on the management when

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Speaker 5: it became the sort of poster child for lefty ESG investings.

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Speaker 5: You know, Disney stock hasn't moved since twenty fourteenth the

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Speaker 5: same price. Essentially, Budweise went from number one beer to

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Speaker 5: number three. Target had a scale backage, Pride displace because

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Speaker 5: people weren't going shopping. Will be the American consumer hates

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Speaker 5: wel Kamala Harris has declared wokeness to be the best

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Speaker 5: thing since sliced Brennan the French fries. She said, it

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Speaker 5: will the American people support a uber woke presidential candidate.

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Speaker 5: The consumer won't do it. I can't imagine voters.

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Speaker 4: Are going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's just talk bear bones here, straight economics, right, Let's

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Speaker 2: leave aside because I love everything that you're saying about

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Speaker 2: the failure. I've been on this buck and I have

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Speaker 2: been on this for a long time about go woke,

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Speaker 2: go broke and how it's destroyed brands.

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Speaker 1: Was bud Light, Disney, you name them.

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Speaker 2: From a pure economic perspective, Let's say that we know

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Speaker 2: who wins the election on November fifth. Wall Street wakes

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Speaker 2: up on the morning of November sixth and Kamala Harris

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Speaker 2: is coming into office. What does Wall Street do? What

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Speaker 2: is the reaction in your mind?

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Speaker 5: Well, there's two wall streets. Remember, there is the thing

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Speaker 5: known as the stock market, which in Jamie Diamond and

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Speaker 5: Larry Fink in all those places, they don't really control that.

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Speaker 5: You know. That's millions and millions of individual people reacting

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Speaker 5: to news and using that reaction to what they see

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Speaker 5: is coming in the future to bet on, you know,

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Speaker 5: corporate America's future. You know, whether earnings will go up

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Speaker 5: or down based on whatever policies come out of Washington

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Speaker 5: which will impact those earnings. So that's one thing. Then

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Speaker 5: you have the big the street, you know, Jamie Diamond,

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Speaker 5: Larry Think you know, if he gets elected, they're gonna

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Speaker 5: go on bended knee and you know, make nice with

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Speaker 5: her because they you know, if they have, you know,

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Speaker 5: the financial sector is a is a heavily regulated entity.

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Speaker 5: Do they go back to being woke? I don't think

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Speaker 5: they do, because they not only have to answer to

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Speaker 5: Kamala Harris, but they have to they have to answer

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Speaker 5: to me and you and Buck and and our wives

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Speaker 5: and people who just don't like this stuff. So that's

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Speaker 5: another thing. Now, the stock market's gonna be interesting to

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Speaker 5: see how that reacts to Kamala Harris because if you

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Speaker 5: follow what she's saying, uh, you know, spending more money

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Speaker 5: than we have. I mean, does she raise corporate taxes

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Speaker 5: that's usually not good for her earnings? Does she you know,

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Speaker 5: does she uh? Does she spend? Does she does she

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Speaker 5: price controls which is absurd, and you can lead to

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Speaker 5: higher inflation, which could lead to higher interest rates on bonds,

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Speaker 5: which leads the higher interest rates on mortgages. I mean,

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Speaker 5: she could be a hugely destabilizing factor if she gets

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Speaker 5: in there. Now, if she gets in there, and now

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Speaker 5: he has the game plan this if you, if you're

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Speaker 5: an investor, because I think about this all day, if

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Speaker 5: she gets in there with the Republican House and Senate,

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Speaker 5: well then it's gridlock. So maybe nothing happens, but who knows.

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Speaker 5: I mean, remember one thing the president does, to a

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Speaker 5: large extent, control the administrative state, which is hugely powerful,

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Speaker 5: and it's and it's extra it has it's lately it's

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Speaker 5: grown in power because of a lot of reasons. Because

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Speaker 5: that makes it more powerful than Congress is check and balances.

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Speaker 5: So remember that actually gets the point that people running

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Speaker 5: the FBC, the SEC, you know, all those alphabet agencies

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Speaker 5: that are very important. So it'll be interesting to see

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Speaker 5: what happens.

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Speaker 3: Charlie Gasprinow the book Go Go Broke, The inside story

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Speaker 3: of radicalization of Corporate America. Charlie, congrats on the book.

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Speaker 3: Good luck to you, and come back and talk to

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Speaker 3: us soon and do more economy education stuff.

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Speaker 4: Be fun.

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Speaker 5: You got it, guys, Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I just saw buck where Israel has activated even more

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Speaker 2: of its reserve soldiers as they are in fear of

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Speaker 2: a Hesboala Iran Gaza Hamas attack at any point in time,

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Speaker 2: as they have been for some time.

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Speaker 1: I'm scheduled to go over now. In December.

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Speaker 2: We had to cancel the trip that I was going

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Speaker 2: to take because all the air flame flights got canceled.

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Speaker 2: Bomb shelters people are getting prepared rushing into them all

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Speaker 2: the time. Since the war started last October, when Hamas

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Speaker 2: attacked Israel from so many different places, the International Fellowship

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Speaker 2: of Christians and Jews has been on the forefront addressing

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Speaker 2: the needs of the most vulnerable. That's why we're partnering

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Speaker 2: with the IFCJ this year. Your life saving donations will

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Speaker 2: help provide emergency food as well as critical security needs.

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