Speaker 1: Either fan.
Speaker 2: Rito's welcome to part two of our interview with Judy Savage.
Speaker 2: She is the talent agent who changed our lives along
Speaker 2: with so many other actors. So it's truly been an
Speaker 2: incredible experience to talk to her and see her again. So,
Speaker 2: without further ado, here's Judy.
Speaker 1: What was like?
Speaker 2: Do you remember what were some of these negotiations, like,
Speaker 2: because you were a tough negotiator, oh, studios? Like, was
Speaker 2: there particularly tough negotiation or one that you were really
Speaker 2: proud of that you achieved?
Speaker 3: The kid the Boys on Tim Taylor's Tool Time.
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I improvement. I remember this.
Speaker 3: Do you remember this?
Speaker 1: I remember this because I was good friends with Zach
Speaker 1: and Jonathan at the time.
Speaker 3: I represented two of the boys, not all three, and I.
Speaker 1: Think it was Tarn and Jonathan Harrin.
Speaker 3: Taron Smith was like six years old when he got it.
Speaker 3: He'd never done anything, and so when he got on
Speaker 3: that show an episode, that's all I could get because
Speaker 3: he'd never done anything. And Zach was Jonathan Taylor Thomas
Speaker 3: had because he had lots of credits. Got well. It
Speaker 3: was just customary that in the third season you negotiate.
Speaker 3: So when the third season came. I tried to get more,
Speaker 3: and they offered me more tickets to the tapings. I said, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: that's not going to work. So I called mothers and
Speaker 3: I said, okay, all going to be sick. They're going
Speaker 3: to be sick, and they're not going to go in
Speaker 3: for the callbacks. So I told him they were all sick.
Speaker 3: And it went on and on and on, and I
Speaker 3: remember that they didn't show. Remember that they sent a
Speaker 3: doctor and Karen happened to have a cold and like
Speaker 3: coughing and sneezing. Uh Zach had a football injury. And
Speaker 3: I don't know about Jonathan Taylor Thomas because he wasn't
Speaker 3: mine at the time. But they you've got to be
Speaker 3: willing to say no in order to get more money.
Speaker 3: So they came away on the negotiation. And in the meantime,
Speaker 3: they said they started seeing new kids for the roles,
Speaker 3: and I sent some of my new kids just because
Speaker 3: I was you know, I was not going to be
Speaker 3: bluffed by the way.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And finally Tim came in and he said, okay, enough
Speaker 3: of this. I want my family back, and I want
Speaker 3: the same kids, and I don't want anybody else, and
Speaker 3: they came through with the money and that helped my
Speaker 3: reputation because I got there. I was the agent that
Speaker 3: broke the back of Disney.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I remember.
Speaker 4: I vividly remember this because it was like such because
Speaker 4: all like kids and parents that you know, were on
Speaker 4: working on shows.
Speaker 1: It was like you did.
Speaker 4: You were always kind of you got the scraps, you
Speaker 4: got the like the leftovers. If you asked for something else, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, here, we'll give you an extra,
Speaker 4: you know, take it to the taping or something that
Speaker 4: doesn't pay a bill. You know, it doesn't work for anything.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I remember like everyone particularly all of your
Speaker 4: clients were like, yeah, Judy get it. It was It
Speaker 4: was really impressive to watch.
Speaker 3: Also, I got very friendly with the like the people
Speaker 3: that you negotiate with, the attorneys. I'd go to lunch
Speaker 3: with them and chat and talk and be friendly. So
Speaker 3: when it came time to negotiate, they were my buddies, right,
Speaker 3: And I'd say, Okay, now how much can I get
Speaker 3: from this?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: And they'd tell me, well, we're offering you ten, but
Speaker 3: we've got twenty in the budget, so I would hold out. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and later on it always I started to I learned
Speaker 3: as I went along, But as I started to get
Speaker 3: a lot more money for the kids, I would get
Speaker 3: twenty you sometimes thirty thousand an episode. And also as
Speaker 3: the years went by, there was more money in the business.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you can get I mean
Speaker 1: not now it's all been sucked out. But yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a moment it was peak television. It was great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: sushi on a Friday night.
Speaker 3: We were doing it. I you were at exactly the
Speaker 3: right time and it was love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was we had We got to really enjoy
Speaker 4: the experience of like a network TV.
Speaker 1: Show, and they found any excitement of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the producers had to have one hundred episodes to
Speaker 3: sell the syndication. Right, there's no syndication anymore.
Speaker 1: No, it's yeah, it's changed so much, well, and.
Speaker 3: It's affected everybody. My son Brad has a production company.
Speaker 3: He's having a hard time. Yeah, people that are writers, everybody. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very different business, uh than when like.
Speaker 3: When the seventy eight records went to forty five and
Speaker 3: then went to uh.
Speaker 1: CDs, you know, atrex.
Speaker 3: CDs and then too little.
Speaker 1: Right, and then to now it's just in the in
Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, just exist all of.
Speaker 3: Those places where you used to rent movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, blockable spell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was what
Speaker 1: was the like sort of speaking about how things have
Speaker 1: changed whatever, What was the reason that finally made you
Speaker 1: decide to retire.
Speaker 3: I was seventy six years old, I think, and the
Speaker 3: business well, I had Stella in there. Yes, it was
Speaker 3: very good, and the business was starting to change. And
Speaker 3: when I retired, I mean when I was about to retire,
Speaker 3: I had thirty six kids on series. So I was
Speaker 3: going to sell her the business. And I think I'd
Speaker 3: had one knee replaced. So it was getting harder and
Speaker 3: harder and hard. Oh, I know what it was, it
Speaker 3: really did it. I've had a yes, I remember, and
Speaker 3: I could stay on the phone cast in. Doctors wouldcall
Speaker 3: and I'd cough and cough and cough and coffin. I
Speaker 3: still have it, and I've been to every doctor and
Speaker 3: every allergist and everything. Anyway, finally I decided I can't
Speaker 3: really do this anymore. And I would think I was
Speaker 3: seventy six, so I'd better get out while the getting
Speaker 3: is good. And so I knew that I could sell
Speaker 3: the business for a lot of money, and Stella bought
Speaker 3: the business and I sold the building and it was
Speaker 3: just the right time. Although I missed it terribly. I
Speaker 3: was gonna say, what do you miss about it? The
Speaker 3: kids and talking to the mothers and just the whole business.
Speaker 3: I love the business.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the reason that I think we're still
Speaker 4: in it, you know today, is because there is. If
Speaker 4: you love it, there's something about it that is absolutely
Speaker 4: truly magical.
Speaker 1: Even in the most grueling of schedules, like use, there's
Speaker 1: just nothing like it. No, do you remember I remember this?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: At I believe it was. Was it not the Ivy?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: What was that little restaurant that you loved the Ivy?
Speaker 1: Was it the Ivy?
Speaker 2: No? The little yellow house. Oh that's what you're talking
Speaker 2: about Off Vine. There we go.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the Ivy is on Robertson Offline.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Offvine was the most adorable restaurant that was your favorite.
Speaker 4: It was a few blocks from your office and it
Speaker 4: was a little few bungalow that they turned into a restaurant.
Speaker 4: And that was always I just always remember being like, oh,
Speaker 4: we're going with Judy to off.
Speaker 1: Fine Like that was just always for your West there.
Speaker 2: I have a picture of you, me and Chad Allen there.
Speaker 1: Well, what I was going to say is for your
Speaker 1: anniversary for some i'd there, yep, And we had a
Speaker 1: picture with all the kids, which I still have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still have it too. We'll put it on our Instagram.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we all wore black and white, and I think
Speaker 4: you had black and white and red.
Speaker 3: Yes, and Andrea's mother had gotten us all together and
Speaker 3: had a picture taken before that the year or two
Speaker 3: before that. But at that time there were so I
Speaker 3: had so many kids. I wanted a bigger party.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we took out we took out a page in Variety,
Speaker 2: I think, yes, with the congratulations on your anniversary, whatever
Speaker 2: number it was.
Speaker 3: At the time. I lasted for forty five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is just.
Speaker 2: Incredibly impressive, absolutely remarkable, this stay in power that you have,
Speaker 2: and to go through these through the decades, the eighties
Speaker 2: and nineties, the aughts, and see child actors change from
Speaker 2: you know, the innocent little kids that didn't really know
Speaker 2: what we were doing, like me and Jody, to really
Speaker 2: cultivated careers where social media is a big deal and
Speaker 2: branding yourself is a big deal and you have to
Speaker 2: be a triple threat, a singer and a dancer and
Speaker 2: an actor. And I think it's so different now that
Speaker 2: it was when Jodi and I were growing up. Was
Speaker 2: that a challenge for you as the agent or how
Speaker 2: did that change for you throughout the years.
Speaker 3: Well, I just sort of learned as I went along,
Speaker 3: you know, until it got to the point of streaming,
Speaker 3: and streaming was so different thing. I mean, I couldn't
Speaker 3: make the money that I had been making before and
Speaker 3: be able to hire employees like I had because at
Speaker 3: one time I had eight different people working before me,
Speaker 3: and by the time I retired, there was just Stella
Speaker 3: and her son and one other person. Oh no, on Jennifer.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yes, I remember Jennifer.
Speaker 3: Yep, Jennifer. Now does do you remember the person that
Speaker 3: sent you to me? Jody? She was a person I
Speaker 3: can't remember, Phyllis, Phyllis Ellis. She was a person that
Speaker 3: would just meet children, interview them, and then send them
Speaker 3: to different agents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: So there's never been anybody like that since.
Speaker 1: I remember Phyllis.
Speaker 4: You know what I remember about Phyllis She would always
Speaker 4: have pink lemonade at her house.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I remember this.
Speaker 4: I remember it vividly, like the black minute made like
Speaker 4: old school pink lemonade, and she would always pour me
Speaker 4: a glass of pink lemonade because I think she did
Speaker 4: like I don't know, she did like acting stuff too,
Speaker 4: like not teaching, but like I just remember remember like
Speaker 4: meeting with her, and yeah, I have a very strange
Speaker 4: memory of like associating that name.
Speaker 3: Well, I can always thank billis Henson for sending you.
Speaker 3: I was blown away when you came in because well,
Speaker 3: both of you kids, you were so young and you
Speaker 3: were so smart, and I think you were reading Jodie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was reading by then. And that was
Speaker 1: one of the things that a lot of.
Speaker 4: People were like, oh, she's you know, three and a
Speaker 4: half four, like really until she's you know, reading or anything.
Speaker 1: And my mom was like, well she kind of is,
Speaker 1: people like. And then we went in and.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was four, and I remember you handed me
Speaker 4: a script, you know, and I was like okay and
Speaker 4: just started to read it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so impressive.
Speaker 3: So you were you reading when you came in.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't well, I was four when I
Speaker 2: came to when I met you, So I don't know
Speaker 2: if I was reading then, but definitely by kindergarten by five,
Speaker 2: by the time I by the time I booked my
Speaker 2: first full time role, right, I was reading by them
Speaker 2: by days of our lives. Yeah, but no, I don't
Speaker 2: remember what. I don't become my exact audition with you.
Speaker 3: The kids that could read the most at a young
Speaker 3: age always had an advantage. And if you were small,
Speaker 3: and if you had great personality, yes, yep, so that's
Speaker 3: what I'd look for. But I'd also I would tell
Speaker 3: the parents if I was interviewing the child and the uh,
Speaker 3: they said, I don't really want to be here, my
Speaker 3: mother made me come. I would tell them they don't
Speaker 3: want to do this, and I'd say, what do you
Speaker 3: really want to do? And they'd say, play baseball or
Speaker 3: you know something. Yeah, you know, if you want to
Speaker 3: get him some training and bring them back, I'll be
Speaker 3: happy to see them. But they don't want to be
Speaker 3: here now, and why should we do that to him?
Speaker 3: My own grandson who's twenty now, my youngest grandson, Tracy's son.
Speaker 3: When he was five, she took a year from working
Speaker 3: at NBC and she got some pictures made and she
Speaker 3: got her master's degree, and she got some pictures made
Speaker 3: for Michael, and he was also cute, short and talented,
Speaker 3: and I sent him on six interviews and he got
Speaker 3: six callbacks and he booked all six of them. And
Speaker 3: it was just at the time he was born in
Speaker 3: two thousand and three, two thousand and five and things
Speaker 3: were still pretty good then, and he made I don't
Speaker 3: know one hundred and fifty thousand dollars or more, and
Speaker 3: Tracy saved it all. So he's in college now and
Speaker 3: he's paying for most of his college.
Speaker 2: Oh that's the savage way, isn't it right?
Speaker 1: You get these kids.
Speaker 2: Jobs, yeah for college, and we all go to college.
Speaker 1: And yes, so many of.
Speaker 2: Your kids clients went to college too, And yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just you're remarkable.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of them went to college, Like
Speaker 3: Rioters started college while he was envoy Min's world. Yeah, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they really like again, you you made sure
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 4: But we also were very fortunate that most of us
Speaker 4: grew up on sets that were warm and welcoming to
Speaker 4: young people, right, you know it was we all.
Speaker 3: Had those states Jose ran for seven or eight years.
Speaker 3: I mean you have nothing like that too, No, No, I.
Speaker 4: Mean even fuller. We got five seasons. I mean they
Speaker 4: were shorter seasons, but like that is remarkable for that.
Speaker 3: It was such a surprise and so amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a long run for nothing. I mean, like
Speaker 4: what other It's really hard to think of other streaming
Speaker 4: series that go on for more than three, you know.
Speaker 4: So I think we were always very, very very fortunate
Speaker 4: in that. Do you have any regrets, anything you wish
Speaker 4: you'd done differently?
Speaker 3: Not a thing?
Speaker 1: Yes, I love that.
Speaker 3: I mean at first, I was when I started to
Speaker 3: get really really busy. I wanted to travel, but I
Speaker 3: didn't feel I could I could leave the office to travel.
Speaker 3: And finally I found in June, just before it got
Speaker 3: really really busy, that I could start taking vacations. I
Speaker 3: didn't take vacation for like twenty years, and except in
Speaker 3: the summertime. We go back to Michigan where my family
Speaker 3: lived and we had a summer home. But like I
Speaker 3: was fifty before I got to Europe, and I went
Speaker 3: for two weeks and I was so excited to go
Speaker 3: to Paris in Italy. And my daughter went to Europe
Speaker 3: right out of high school. Yeah, and Mark went to
Speaker 3: Europe for a year after we graduate from college and
Speaker 3: he lived in France with a woman. He rented a
Speaker 3: room from this woman, and he got a job translating
Speaker 3: French to English and English to France. And he's traveled
Speaker 3: all over Europe for a year, and he worked with
Speaker 3: mother Teresa.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, that's incredible. Yeah, well, Judy, you have
Speaker 1: you have really.
Speaker 4: Been the catalyst and turning point for a lot of
Speaker 4: people in this business who started out young and uh
Speaker 4: and who are still continuing today. And I think still
Speaker 4: love this business in large part because the beginning experience
Speaker 4: of it with someone like you was.
Speaker 1: But it's true, it's true you you.
Speaker 4: If I would have had an agent like some other
Speaker 4: people who we want mention, I don't think I would
Speaker 4: have wanted to stay in this business.
Speaker 1: But I knew my mom knew that you could go
Speaker 1: to Judy.
Speaker 4: Just go to Judy, just go talk to her, and
Speaker 4: whatever it was, you'd get it worked out with us
Speaker 4: and you and you didn't pressure us or anything. You
Speaker 4: just you really set up so many young people in
Speaker 4: this business to have a wonderful experience I think in
Speaker 4: a business that sometimes isn't so great.
Speaker 3: Well, I felt like all of you were my children, and.
Speaker 1: You treated us like you really really did. You really
Speaker 1: felt it.
Speaker 2: We felt that maternal love and protection from you. It's extraordinary.
Speaker 2: I mean you you changed our lives in the best
Speaker 2: possible way and for success, not just like financially and professionally,
Speaker 2: but like emotionally. Yeah, you set us up to be
Speaker 2: a well rounded humans, you know. I mean we're not perfect,
Speaker 2: of course, but like you know.
Speaker 3: We also had wonderful parent Yes.
Speaker 4: Absolutely did wonderful you know you It was you knew
Speaker 4: how to work with good parents. You knew how to
Speaker 4: like you knew how to work in conjunction with parents
Speaker 4: who also wanted the best for their kids, and you
Speaker 4: tended to avoid the really toxic personalities.
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Speaker 3: I used to go to different cities and do seminars
Speaker 3: with mostly with Diane or Diane I yeah, and then
Speaker 3: find kids and tell them to come for pilot season.
Speaker 3: Well I found this in I think it was Arizona.
Speaker 3: Two girls, two sisters, and they were amazing girls, and
Speaker 3: I said comfort pilot season. But when they came for
Speaker 3: pilot season, the mother was like the worst stage mother
Speaker 3: I had ever seen. Oh, and I didn't take them.
Speaker 3: In fact, I chased them out of my office. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and was running down the street saying go come back.
Speaker 3: They got into the and they both had series and
Speaker 3: they both were successful. But it was like, who wants
Speaker 3: to deal with that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, and you know what there are but
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in this business who
Speaker 1: would for the right price. And I always I just
Speaker 1: have such great respect for you because you you.
Speaker 3: Were you guys had wonderful families.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did, Yeah, we did. It was it was
Speaker 1: a group effort.
Speaker 4: It was a group effort, and because we had wonderful families,
Speaker 4: we wound up with an agent who saw that and
Speaker 4: was also a family person yourself. You were like you,
Speaker 4: you know again, you were you were Auntie.
Speaker 1: You know, you were like you.
Speaker 4: You made us all feel very safe and comfortable, and
Speaker 4: I think you made our parents feel safe and comfortable too,
Speaker 4: trusting you.
Speaker 1: So thank you for that, Judy. It means a lot.
Speaker 3: Oh that's so sweet. Thank you both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we love you so much, Judy, like you're just
Speaker 2: You're so special to us, and I'm so happy that
Speaker 2: you came on our podcast to yes share these stories
Speaker 2: in this, we get to reunite.
Speaker 3: What is the name of your podcast?
Speaker 1: It is how Rude Tanner Ritos.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's both of our catchphrases from Full House combined.
Speaker 1: To mush together because you know, we didn't want to
Speaker 1: we can pick one.
Speaker 2: You can't do that, no favorites. So yeah, I think
Speaker 2: Judy's frozen free. She's she's either really impressed or she's
Speaker 2: frozen right. Oh, amazing, there she's back. Yay.
Speaker 4: We were just saying that we that when we that
Speaker 4: when we grow up, if we ever do that, we
Speaker 4: want to that we want to age like Judy Savage
Speaker 4: because you're kind of fabulous.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for being on the show
Speaker 1: with us today, Judy. It was really really a pleasure
Speaker 1: to talk to you.
Speaker 3: It was so great to see you. Guys. If you
Speaker 3: ever want to come here and have lunch, I will absolutely.
Speaker 4: Do it because I'm relatively close. So yeah, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna come knock on your door. Maybe my mom
Speaker 4: will even come with me because I know she'd love
Speaker 4: to see you.
Speaker 3: That would be wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yes, Heartbeat, the food is not that great, but well
Speaker 1: we'll figure it. That's all right. I'm not going about
Speaker 1: the going for the company.
Speaker 3: You know, it's about the company.
Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly. Well, thank you so much, Judy, we love you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us today.
Speaker 3: You made me feel so good.
Speaker 2: Well it's you deserved, well deserved thing.
Speaker 1: Bye Judy, Bye Judy. That was so great. I love
Speaker 1: I just love Judy Savage.
Speaker 2: Like doesn't it just fill your heart with just so
Speaker 2: much joy?
Speaker 3: It does?
Speaker 1: And her like her voice sounds the same every like
Speaker 1: I can. It's just it's.
Speaker 4: Again like a kin with memories of being a young
Speaker 4: kid on the set and the sound of the door
Speaker 4: closing or the set, like the smell her office, her bungalow,
Speaker 4: her on the phone, like all of it is just
Speaker 4: such a childhood memory.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I should have told this story when she was on,
Speaker 1: when she was on with us.
Speaker 2: But like her voice, I remember, yep, like when you
Speaker 2: get when you would leave a message on the answering machine, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's usually good news because that means you break the role.
Speaker 2: And I remember we gathered my family when I booked
Speaker 2: Days of our Lives. We my whole family gathered around
Speaker 2: the answering machine to listen to the message to find
Speaker 2: out did I land the role?
Speaker 4: Or not.
Speaker 2: I did, And of course, you know, Don Barber and
Speaker 2: Share Barber were so excited. My brother probably didn't care,
Speaker 2: like doest celebrate like it was so exciting. And I
Speaker 2: just remember her voice. Yeah, Like I associate so many
Speaker 2: positive moments of my life with her voice.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, Like I can, I just so
Speaker 1: so many.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like hearing like your grandmother's voice or
Speaker 4: something not, you know, like it's hearing that voice that
Speaker 4: like is tied to so many good feelings and so
Speaker 4: many feelings of things that like, yeah, you just don't
Speaker 4: get to experience anymore, you know, And yeah, what, I
Speaker 4: just love her and I want to be I want
Speaker 4: to be an old lady just like her, with the
Speaker 4: fabulous outfits and giant glasses and yes and yeah, and
Speaker 4: skin that just looks like porcelain, you.
Speaker 2: Know, and our daughters will be helping us with whatever
Speaker 2: technology is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be in a yurt by that point.
Speaker 1: You know, I also all look fabulous. I'll still have great,
Speaker 1: I'll dress great, but I'm going to be in the woods,
Speaker 1: away from everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, away from all technology from all yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just just flouncing about with scarves and glasses and
Speaker 4: being you know, fabulous Judy. Yeah, Judy and Diane always
Speaker 4: had scarves, Yes, always had scarves. And Diane in her
Speaker 4: she was such an acting and she would flip the
Speaker 4: scarf over her net like I.
Speaker 1: Just it was great. I just remember it so vividly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what a joy. We gotta get up there.
Speaker 2: We gotta go see both of them.
Speaker 1: Let's have lunch, Lets get scars, Let's do lunch. I
Speaker 1: would love it.
Speaker 4: Yes, well, you guys, thank you so much for joining
Speaker 4: us for this really special episode. This was really a
Speaker 4: lot of fun for us, and I hope you guys
Speaker 4: enjoyed it too. Getting a little super for us into
Speaker 4: our childhood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what a blast from the past. Seriously, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. We love you.
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Speaker 1: Like and subscribe. You know the deal and uh and
Speaker 1: we will see you next time.
Speaker 4: And remember the world is small, but the house is
Speaker 4: full of Judy Savage's clients.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. There's a lot, so many
Speaker 1: like that actually is an appropriate thing. That's just so
Speaker 1: many that is a full house. It's Judy's client list
Speaker 1: and on that. But I'm cheap, but I'm