1 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: Either fan. 2 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Rito's welcome to part two of our interview with Judy Savage. 3 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: She is the talent agent who changed our lives along 4 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: with so many other actors. So it's truly been an 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 2: incredible experience to talk to her and see her again. So, 6 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: without further ado, here's Judy. 7 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: What was like? 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: Do you remember what were some of these negotiations, like, 9 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: because you were a tough negotiator, oh, studios? Like, was 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: there particularly tough negotiation or one that you were really 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 2: proud of that you achieved? 12 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 3: The kid the Boys on Tim Taylor's Tool Time. 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: Oh? 14 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I improvement. I remember this. 15 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: Do you remember this? 16 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: I remember this because I was good friends with Zach 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: and Jonathan at the time. 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 3: I represented two of the boys, not all three, and I. 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Think it was Tarn and Jonathan Harrin. 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: Taron Smith was like six years old when he got it. 21 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: He'd never done anything, and so when he got on 22 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: that show an episode, that's all I could get because 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 3: he'd never done anything. And Zach was Jonathan Taylor Thomas 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: had because he had lots of credits. Got well. It 25 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: was just customary that in the third season you negotiate. 26 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: So when the third season came. I tried to get more, 27 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: and they offered me more tickets to the tapings. I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: that's not going to work. So I called mothers and 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 3: I said, okay, all going to be sick. They're going 30 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 3: to be sick, and they're not going to go in 31 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 3: for the callbacks. So I told him they were all sick. 32 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: And it went on and on and on, and I 33 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 3: remember that they didn't show. Remember that they sent a 34 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: doctor and Karen happened to have a cold and like 35 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 3: coughing and sneezing. Uh Zach had a football injury. And 36 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: I don't know about Jonathan Taylor Thomas because he wasn't 37 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 3: mine at the time. But they you've got to be 38 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: willing to say no in order to get more money. 39 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: So they came away on the negotiation. And in the meantime, 40 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: they said they started seeing new kids for the roles, 41 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 3: and I sent some of my new kids just because 42 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: I was you know, I was not going to be 43 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: bluffed by the way. 44 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 2: Wow. 45 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: And finally Tim came in and he said, okay, enough 46 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: of this. I want my family back, and I want 47 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: the same kids, and I don't want anybody else, and 48 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: they came through with the money and that helped my 49 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: reputation because I got there. I was the agent that 50 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: broke the back of Disney. 51 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I remember. 52 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: I vividly remember this because it was like such because 53 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 4: all like kids and parents that you know, were on 54 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: working on shows. 55 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: It was like you did. 56 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: You were always kind of you got the scraps, you 57 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: got the like the leftovers. If you asked for something else, yeah, 58 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 4: it was like, oh, here, we'll give you an extra, 59 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: you know, take it to the taping or something that 60 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: doesn't pay a bill. You know, it doesn't work for anything. 61 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: And yeah, I remember like everyone particularly all of your 62 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 4: clients were like, yeah, Judy get it. It was It 63 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 4: was really impressive to watch. 64 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 3: Also, I got very friendly with the like the people 65 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 3: that you negotiate with, the attorneys. I'd go to lunch 66 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: with them and chat and talk and be friendly. So 67 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: when it came time to negotiate, they were my buddies, right, 68 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: And I'd say, Okay, now how much can I get 69 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 3: from this? 70 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Right? 71 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 3: And they'd tell me, well, we're offering you ten, but 72 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 3: we've got twenty in the budget, so I would hold out. Yeah, 73 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: and later on it always I started to I learned 74 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: as I went along, But as I started to get 75 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: a lot more money for the kids, I would get 76 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: twenty you sometimes thirty thousand an episode. And also as 77 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 3: the years went by, there was more money in the business. 78 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, you can get I mean 79 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: not now it's all been sucked out. But yeah, there 80 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: was a moment it was peak television. It was great. Yeah, 81 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: sushi on a Friday night. 82 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 3: We were doing it. I you were at exactly the 83 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 3: right time and it was love. 84 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was we had We got to really enjoy 85 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 4: the experience of like a network TV. 86 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: Show, and they found any excitement of it. 87 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, the producers had to have one hundred episodes to 88 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: sell the syndication. Right, there's no syndication anymore. 89 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: No, it's yeah, it's changed so much, well, and. 90 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: It's affected everybody. My son Brad has a production company. 91 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: He's having a hard time. Yeah, people that are writers, everybody. Yeah. 92 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very different business, uh than when like. 93 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 3: When the seventy eight records went to forty five and 94 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: then went to uh. 95 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: CDs, you know, atrex. 96 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 3: CDs and then too little. 97 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: Right, and then to now it's just in the in 98 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: the air. Yeah, just exist all of. 99 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 3: Those places where you used to rent movies. 100 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, blockable spell yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was what 101 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: was the like sort of speaking about how things have 102 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: changed whatever, What was the reason that finally made you 103 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: decide to retire. 104 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 3: I was seventy six years old, I think, and the 105 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 3: business well, I had Stella in there. Yes, it was 106 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 3: very good, and the business was starting to change. And 107 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,119 Speaker 3: when I retired, I mean when I was about to retire, 108 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: I had thirty six kids on series. So I was 109 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: going to sell her the business. And I think I'd 110 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 3: had one knee replaced. So it was getting harder and 111 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: harder and hard. Oh, I know what it was, it 112 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: really did it. I've had a yes, I remember, and 113 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 3: I could stay on the phone cast in. Doctors wouldcall 114 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 3: and I'd cough and cough and cough and coffin. I 115 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: still have it, and I've been to every doctor and 116 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 3: every allergist and everything. Anyway, finally I decided I can't 117 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 3: really do this anymore. And I would think I was 118 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: seventy six, so I'd better get out while the getting 119 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 3: is good. And so I knew that I could sell 120 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 3: the business for a lot of money, and Stella bought 121 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: the business and I sold the building and it was 122 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: just the right time. Although I missed it terribly. I 123 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 3: was gonna say, what do you miss about it? The 124 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: kids and talking to the mothers and just the whole business. 125 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 3: I love the business. 126 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. 127 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: It is. 128 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 4: I mean, it's the reason that I think we're still 129 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 4: in it, you know today, is because there is. If 130 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 4: you love it, there's something about it that is absolutely 131 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: truly magical. 132 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: Even in the most grueling of schedules, like use, there's 133 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: just nothing like it. No, do you remember I remember this? 134 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: Uh? 135 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: At I believe it was. Was it not the Ivy? 136 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 137 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: What was that little restaurant that you loved the Ivy? 138 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Was it the Ivy? 139 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: No? The little yellow house. Oh that's what you're talking 140 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 2: about Off Vine. There we go. 141 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, the Ivy is on Robertson Offline. 142 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: Yep. 143 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: Offvine was the most adorable restaurant that was your favorite. 144 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 4: It was a few blocks from your office and it 145 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 4: was a little few bungalow that they turned into a restaurant. 146 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 4: And that was always I just always remember being like, oh, 147 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: we're going with Judy to off. 148 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: Fine Like that was just always for your West there. 149 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: I have a picture of you, me and Chad Allen there. 150 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: Well, what I was going to say is for your 151 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: anniversary for some i'd there, yep, And we had a 152 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: picture with all the kids, which I still have. Yeah, 153 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: I still have it too. We'll put it on our Instagram. 154 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 3: Yeah. 155 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we all wore black and white, and I think 156 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 4: you had black and white and red. 157 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 3: Yes, and Andrea's mother had gotten us all together and 158 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: had a picture taken before that the year or two 159 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 3: before that. But at that time there were so I 160 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 3: had so many kids. I wanted a bigger party. 161 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we took out we took out a page in Variety, 162 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 2: I think, yes, with the congratulations on your anniversary, whatever 163 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: number it was. 164 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 3: At the time. I lasted for forty five years. 165 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is just. 166 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: Incredibly impressive, absolutely remarkable, this stay in power that you have, 167 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: and to go through these through the decades, the eighties 168 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: and nineties, the aughts, and see child actors change from 169 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 2: you know, the innocent little kids that didn't really know 170 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: what we were doing, like me and Jody, to really 171 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 2: cultivated careers where social media is a big deal and 172 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: branding yourself is a big deal and you have to 173 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: be a triple threat, a singer and a dancer and 174 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: an actor. And I think it's so different now that 175 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 2: it was when Jodi and I were growing up. Was 176 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: that a challenge for you as the agent or how 177 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 2: did that change for you throughout the years. 178 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 3: Well, I just sort of learned as I went along, 179 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 3: you know, until it got to the point of streaming, 180 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: and streaming was so different thing. I mean, I couldn't 181 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: make the money that I had been making before and 182 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 3: be able to hire employees like I had because at 183 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: one time I had eight different people working before me, 184 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: and by the time I retired, there was just Stella 185 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: and her son and one other person. Oh no, on Jennifer. 186 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, Yes, I remember Jennifer. 187 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: Yep, Jennifer. Now does do you remember the person that 188 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 3: sent you to me? Jody? She was a person I 189 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: can't remember, Phyllis, Phyllis Ellis. She was a person that 190 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 3: would just meet children, interview them, and then send them 191 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: to different agents. 192 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and. 193 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 3: So there's never been anybody like that since. 194 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: I remember Phyllis. 195 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: You know what I remember about Phyllis She would always 196 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: have pink lemonade at her house. 197 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: I don't know why I remember this. 198 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 4: I remember it vividly, like the black minute made like 199 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: old school pink lemonade, and she would always pour me 200 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 4: a glass of pink lemonade because I think she did 201 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 4: like I don't know, she did like acting stuff too, 202 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 4: like not teaching, but like I just remember remember like 203 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 4: meeting with her, and yeah, I have a very strange 204 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: memory of like associating that name. 205 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 3: Well, I can always thank billis Henson for sending you. 206 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 3: I was blown away when you came in because well, 207 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: both of you kids, you were so young and you 208 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 3: were so smart, and I think you were reading Jodie. 209 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was reading by then. And that was 210 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: one of the things that a lot of. 211 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: People were like, oh, she's you know, three and a 212 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 4: half four, like really until she's you know, reading or anything. 213 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: And my mom was like, well she kind of is, 214 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: people like. And then we went in and. 215 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: Yeah it was four, and I remember you handed me 216 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 4: a script, you know, and I was like okay and 217 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 4: just started to read it. 218 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so impressive. 219 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 3: So you were you reading when you came in. 220 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: I don't I don't well, I was four when I 221 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: came to when I met you, So I don't know 222 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: if I was reading then, but definitely by kindergarten by five, 223 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,599 Speaker 2: by the time I by the time I booked my 224 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: first full time role, right, I was reading by them 225 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: by days of our lives. Yeah, but no, I don't 226 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: remember what. I don't become my exact audition with you. 227 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: The kids that could read the most at a young 228 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: age always had an advantage. And if you were small, 229 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: and if you had great personality, yes, yep, so that's 230 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: what I'd look for. But I'd also I would tell 231 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: the parents if I was interviewing the child and the uh, 232 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 3: they said, I don't really want to be here, my 233 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: mother made me come. I would tell them they don't 234 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 3: want to do this, and I'd say, what do you 235 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: really want to do? And they'd say, play baseball or 236 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 3: you know something. Yeah, you know, if you want to 237 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 3: get him some training and bring them back, I'll be 238 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: happy to see them. But they don't want to be 239 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 3: here now, and why should we do that to him? 240 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 3: My own grandson who's twenty now, my youngest grandson, Tracy's son. 241 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: When he was five, she took a year from working 242 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: at NBC and she got some pictures made and she 243 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: got her master's degree, and she got some pictures made 244 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 3: for Michael, and he was also cute, short and talented, 245 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 3: and I sent him on six interviews and he got 246 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: six callbacks and he booked all six of them. And 247 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: it was just at the time he was born in 248 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 3: two thousand and three, two thousand and five and things 249 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: were still pretty good then, and he made I don't 250 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: know one hundred and fifty thousand dollars or more, and 251 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: Tracy saved it all. So he's in college now and 252 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 3: he's paying for most of his college. 253 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh that's the savage way, isn't it right? 254 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: You get these kids. 255 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: Jobs, yeah for college, and we all go to college. 256 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: And yes, so many of. 257 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: Your kids clients went to college too, And yeah, it's 258 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: just you're remarkable. 259 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 3: I know a lot of them went to college, Like 260 00:14:54,680 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 3: Rioters started college while he was envoy Min's world. Yeah, oh. 261 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they really like again, you you made sure 262 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: of it. 263 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 4: But we also were very fortunate that most of us 264 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: grew up on sets that were warm and welcoming to 265 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 4: young people, right, you know it was we all. 266 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: Had those states Jose ran for seven or eight years. 267 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 3: I mean you have nothing like that too, No, No, I. 268 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 4: Mean even fuller. We got five seasons. I mean they 269 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 4: were shorter seasons, but like that is remarkable for that. 270 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: It was such a surprise and so amazing. 271 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a long run for nothing. I mean, like 272 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 4: what other It's really hard to think of other streaming 273 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 4: series that go on for more than three, you know. 274 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: So I think we were always very, very very fortunate 275 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 4: in that. Do you have any regrets, anything you wish 276 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 4: you'd done differently? 277 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: Not a thing? 278 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. 279 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: I mean at first, I was when I started to 280 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: get really really busy. I wanted to travel, but I 281 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: didn't feel I could I could leave the office to travel. 282 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: And finally I found in June, just before it got 283 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: really really busy, that I could start taking vacations. I 284 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: didn't take vacation for like twenty years, and except in 285 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: the summertime. We go back to Michigan where my family 286 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: lived and we had a summer home. But like I 287 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: was fifty before I got to Europe, and I went 288 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 3: for two weeks and I was so excited to go 289 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: to Paris in Italy. And my daughter went to Europe 290 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: right out of high school. Yeah, and Mark went to 291 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: Europe for a year after we graduate from college and 292 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 3: he lived in France with a woman. He rented a 293 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 3: room from this woman, and he got a job translating 294 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: French to English and English to France. And he's traveled 295 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: all over Europe for a year, and he worked with 296 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: mother Teresa. 297 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: Oh wow, wow, that's incredible. Yeah, well, Judy, you have 298 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: you have really. 299 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: Been the catalyst and turning point for a lot of 300 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 4: people in this business who started out young and uh 301 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 4: and who are still continuing today. And I think still 302 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 4: love this business in large part because the beginning experience 303 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 4: of it with someone like you was. 304 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: But it's true, it's true you you. 305 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 4: If I would have had an agent like some other 306 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: people who we want mention, I don't think I would 307 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: have wanted to stay in this business. 308 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: But I knew my mom knew that you could go 309 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: to Judy. 310 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: Just go to Judy, just go talk to her, and 311 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 4: whatever it was, you'd get it worked out with us 312 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 4: and you and you didn't pressure us or anything. You 313 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 4: just you really set up so many young people in 314 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 4: this business to have a wonderful experience I think in 315 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 4: a business that sometimes isn't so great. 316 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 3: Well, I felt like all of you were my children, and. 317 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: You treated us like you really really did. You really 318 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: felt it. 319 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: We felt that maternal love and protection from you. It's extraordinary. 320 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: I mean you you changed our lives in the best 321 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 2: possible way and for success, not just like financially and professionally, 322 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 2: but like emotionally. Yeah, you set us up to be 323 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: a well rounded humans, you know. I mean we're not perfect, 324 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: of course, but like you know. 325 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: We also had wonderful parent Yes. 326 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 4: Absolutely did wonderful you know you It was you knew 327 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 4: how to work with good parents. You knew how to 328 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 4: like you knew how to work in conjunction with parents 329 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: who also wanted the best for their kids, and you 330 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 4: tended to avoid the really toxic personalities. 331 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: You know, Hey, fan Ritos, don't forget to check out 332 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: our merch at howarudemerch dot com. 333 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: I used to go to different cities and do seminars 334 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 3: with mostly with Diane or Diane I yeah, and then 335 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 3: find kids and tell them to come for pilot season. 336 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 3: Well I found this in I think it was Arizona. 337 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: Two girls, two sisters, and they were amazing girls, and 338 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: I said comfort pilot season. But when they came for 339 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 3: pilot season, the mother was like the worst stage mother 340 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: I had ever seen. Oh, and I didn't take them. 341 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 3: In fact, I chased them out of my office. Yeah, 342 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: and was running down the street saying go come back. 343 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 3: They got into the and they both had series and 344 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 3: they both were successful. But it was like, who wants 345 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: to deal with that? 346 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, and you know what there are but 347 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in this business who 348 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: would for the right price. And I always I just 349 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: have such great respect for you because you you. 350 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 3: Were you guys had wonderful families. 351 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did, Yeah, we did. It was it was 352 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: a group effort. 353 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 4: It was a group effort, and because we had wonderful families, 354 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: we wound up with an agent who saw that and 355 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 4: was also a family person yourself. You were like you, 356 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 4: you know again, you were you were Auntie. 357 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: You know, you were like you. 358 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: You made us all feel very safe and comfortable, and 359 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: I think you made our parents feel safe and comfortable too, 360 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 4: trusting you. 361 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: So thank you for that, Judy. It means a lot. 362 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: Oh that's so sweet. Thank you both. 363 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we love you so much, Judy, like you're just 364 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 2: You're so special to us, and I'm so happy that 365 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: you came on our podcast to yes share these stories 366 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: in this, we get to reunite. 367 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 3: What is the name of your podcast? 368 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: It is how Rude Tanner Ritos. 369 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: Yes, it's both of our catchphrases from Full House combined. 370 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: To mush together because you know, we didn't want to 371 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: we can pick one. 372 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: You can't do that, no favorites. So yeah, I think 373 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: Judy's frozen free. She's she's either really impressed or she's 374 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: frozen right. Oh, amazing, there she's back. Yay. 375 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 4: We were just saying that we that when we that 376 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 4: when we grow up, if we ever do that, we 377 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 4: want to that we want to age like Judy Savage 378 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: because you're kind of fabulous. 379 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for being on the show 380 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: with us today, Judy. It was really really a pleasure 381 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: to talk to you. 382 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 3: It was so great to see you. Guys. If you 383 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,959 Speaker 3: ever want to come here and have lunch, I will absolutely. 384 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: Do it because I'm relatively close. So yeah, I'm gonna come. 385 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 4: I'm gonna come knock on your door. Maybe my mom 386 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: will even come with me because I know she'd love 387 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: to see you. 388 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: That would be wonderful. 389 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: Yes, Heartbeat, the food is not that great, but well 390 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: we'll figure it. That's all right. I'm not going about 391 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: the going for the company. 392 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: You know, it's about the company. 393 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: Exactly, exactly. Well, thank you so much, Judy, we love you. 394 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us today. 395 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 3: You made me feel so good. 396 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: Well it's you deserved, well deserved thing. 397 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: Bye Judy, Bye Judy. That was so great. I love 398 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: I just love Judy Savage. 399 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: Like doesn't it just fill your heart with just so 400 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: much joy? 401 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: It does? 402 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: And her like her voice sounds the same every like 403 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: I can. It's just it's. 404 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 4: Again like a kin with memories of being a young 405 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 4: kid on the set and the sound of the door 406 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 4: closing or the set, like the smell her office, her bungalow, 407 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: her on the phone, like all of it is just 408 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 4: such a childhood memory. 409 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 410 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: I should have told this story when she was on, 411 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: when she was on with us. 412 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: But like her voice, I remember, yep, like when you 413 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 2: get when you would leave a message on the answering machine, yeah, 414 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: it's usually good news because that means you break the role. 415 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: And I remember we gathered my family when I booked 416 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: Days of our Lives. We my whole family gathered around 417 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: the answering machine to listen to the message to find 418 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: out did I land the role? 419 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: Or not. 420 00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 2: I did, And of course, you know, Don Barber and 421 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: Share Barber were so excited. My brother probably didn't care, 422 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 2: like doest celebrate like it was so exciting. And I 423 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 2: just remember her voice. Yeah, Like I associate so many 424 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,360 Speaker 2: positive moments of my life with her voice. 425 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: That's what I mean, Like I can, I just so 426 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: so many. 427 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 4: It's like it's like hearing like your grandmother's voice or 428 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 4: something not, you know, like it's hearing that voice that 429 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 4: like is tied to so many good feelings and so 430 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: many feelings of things that like, yeah, you just don't 431 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 4: get to experience anymore, you know, And yeah, what, I 432 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 4: just love her and I want to be I want 433 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: to be an old lady just like her, with the 434 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 4: fabulous outfits and giant glasses and yes and yeah, and 435 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 4: skin that just looks like porcelain, you. 436 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 2: Know, and our daughters will be helping us with whatever 437 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: technology is. 438 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 439 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in a yurt by that point. 440 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: You know, I also all look fabulous. I'll still have great, 441 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: I'll dress great, but I'm going to be in the woods, 442 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: away from everyone. 443 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, away from all technology from all yeah. 444 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, just just flouncing about with scarves and glasses and 445 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 4: being you know, fabulous Judy. Yeah, Judy and Diane always 446 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: had scarves, Yes, always had scarves. And Diane in her 447 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: she was such an acting and she would flip the 448 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: scarf over her net like I. 449 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: Just it was great. I just remember it so vividly. Yeah, 450 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: what a joy. We gotta get up there. 451 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: We gotta go see both of them. 452 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: Let's have lunch, Lets get scars, Let's do lunch. I 453 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 1: would love it. 454 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 4: Yes, well, you guys, thank you so much for joining 455 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: us for this really special episode. This was really a 456 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 4: lot of fun for us, and I hope you guys 457 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: enjoyed it too. Getting a little super for us into 458 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 4: our childhood. 459 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what a blast from the past. Seriously, Well, 460 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: thank you guys for listening. We love you. 461 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: Fan Rito's make sure you're following us on Instagram at 462 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 4: how Rude podcast or sending us emails at how Rude 463 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 4: Tannerto's at gmail dot com. 464 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: Like and subscribe. You know the deal and uh and 465 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: we will see you next time. 466 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: And remember the world is small, but the house is 467 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 4: full of Judy Savage's clients. 468 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. There's a lot, so many 469 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: like that actually is an appropriate thing. That's just so 470 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: many that is a full house. It's Judy's client list 471 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: and on that. But I'm cheap, but I'm