1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the second hour of the Clay 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show, and we are continuing with 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: our last week of live shows for the year. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 2: Very very much want to say, while I can, thank 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: you to all of you for helping us have such 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: a great year, or you are the reason. 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 3: We had such a great year on the program. I 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: know we're still in the news cycle. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: We'll be getting into all this in a second, but 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: since I only have you for today and then Clay 11 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: is going to be throwing a Christmas keg party for 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: you for the next couple of days afterwards, We've had 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: a great, really, honestly a great year on this show. 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: It has been. 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 2: An honor to be able to spend time with you 16 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: all every day. For y'all, as I'm allowed to say 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 2: now because so many of you are Southerners and you've 18 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: given me permission. 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 4: Well you married a Southerner, so I think that's help 20 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 4: us your ability to embrace the word y'all. 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 2: That's true, and so we just want to say thank 22 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: you to all of you. Honestly, it's been a phenomenally 23 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 2: You're our team in New York City is the absolute best. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: Our audience is the absolute best. 25 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: And we all hope that we're doing a great job 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: and that Rush is smiling down on us from heaven 27 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: thinking that we're carrying on the legacy and holding the 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: torch as best as we can. 29 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: And I can promise you we do that absolutely every 30 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 3: single day. 31 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: And to build on that which is well said in 32 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 4: this will be when we come back in January together, 33 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: it'll be we're working on the fifth year. We added 34 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 4: eighty six stations this year. We have added, thanks to 35 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 4: you guys, over two hundred affiliate stations since we launched 36 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 4: this show in June of twenty twenty one. So that's 37 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 4: a testament to a lot of work going on behind 38 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 4: the scenes. I think we were around three fifty when 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 4: we launched ISH and now I know we are over 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: five hundred and fifty and added an absolute ton of 41 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 4: stations this year, and many of you are listening to 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: us all over the country on stations that work with 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: us in June of twenty twenty one, So thanks to 44 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: all those stations out there. Obviously, we want to be 45 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: on as many platforms as possible everywhere. Clay and Buck 46 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: Podcast Network is rolling and we're going to have more 47 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: and more video for you as many people out there. 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 4: I never really really believe this is where we were headed, Buck, 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: but a lot of people consume audio on video. In fact, 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 4: it's more popular to consume audio on video now often 51 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: than it is just playing audio, particularly the younger you are. 52 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 4: So we're going to be adding in more and more 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: video attributes of this program. It's a big part of 54 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty six plan. So we would like for 55 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 4: you to be out there subscribing to us on all 56 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 4: those platforms, including YouTube, because there's going to be a 57 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: lot more video coming for all of you. 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: And I will say this, and this is definitely self serving, 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: but also one hundred percent true when any of you 60 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: come up and see me. Was jogging Clay yesterday who 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: listens to the show and stopped his jog for a 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 2: minute to come alongside me to chat. 63 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: A little bit. 64 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: Some ideas that I felt bad, like I'm interrupting your job. 65 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: It's like, well, right, Buck Sexton, I got it. But 66 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 2: we always appreciate whenever you see any of us, and 67 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: you always should feel like you can come up and 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: talk to us and we feel like we know you, 69 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 2: and you feel like you know us because you do 70 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: because you spend so much time with us over the 71 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: course of the year, and some of you even a 72 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 2: couple of hours, two or three hours a day when 73 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 2: you have the time. I would also say that whenever 74 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 2: we meet somebody who listens to this show, I truly 75 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: immediately this little thing in my brain goes, oh, you're 76 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 2: one of the good, smart conservatives who doesn't waste his 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: time with nonsense. So I'm just saying that is honestly 78 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: what I think. So I think it is to your 79 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: tremendous credit to all of you that with I know 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: there's so much noise out there. There's so much stuff 81 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: that is online, in particular these days, and there's a 82 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: lot of sort of petty nonsense and people getting crazy 83 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: and getting a little reckless. And you stay with us 84 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: here and you stay with the mission, and we greatly 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: appreciate that. So I wanted to say thank you. And 86 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,119 Speaker 2: I do have a high opinion of each and every 87 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: one of you who listens to the show. So that 88 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: is from a bottom of the heart. All right, now 89 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 2: we can do some news you mentioned Mom Donnie. Now 90 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you something. There are people who are claiming, 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: now Clay that since Mom Donnie came into New York, 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 2: or rather, since he won the election, he becomes mayor 93 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: of January one. I believe since he won that election, 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: there have actually been some people moving to New York 95 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: to experience Mom Donnism. There has not been the flood 96 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: of residents to or new residents to Florida that even 97 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: some realtor friends of mine were expecting. People tested they 98 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: want to know that the lifeboat is there. They did 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: not get into the lifeboat, though overwhelmingly I have not. 100 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: By the way, if you happen to be somebody who 101 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: has left New York because of Mom Donnie and moved anywhere, 102 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: let us know. The numbers show this is is a 103 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: very small group. 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 4: I will say that I think most of those people, 105 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 4: if they leave Buck, they're gonna let Mom Donnie try 106 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: it out. Most people have kids, they have grandkids. Moving 107 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 4: around Christmas is hard to do. So I think you'll 108 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 4: see if people are gonna flee Mom Donnie's air in 109 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: New York, it will happen in the spring and summer. 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 4: So that's when I'm actually curious to see whether or 111 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,799 Speaker 4: not there will be any sort of mass movement, because 112 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: you'll have a few months he gets inaugurated in January, 113 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 4: you'll have a few months to see how the process 114 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: of Mom Donnie is going, and then people's school years 115 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 4: get out and then they start to move. We'll play 116 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 4: the Mom Donni. By the way, new videos being released 117 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: now as we speak of a person of interest leading 118 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: the news on Fox News, leading the news on MSNBC 119 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 4: right now in that Brown University shooting. 120 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: So a little bit better visualization. 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: We'll try to share some of those videos from the 122 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: Clay and Buck account for any of you out there 123 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: that may be in that area or just trying to 124 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: figure out who that person of interest is. But you 125 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 4: were mentioning Mom Donnie, and I tease this buck. Mom 126 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 4: Donnie weighed in on how he thinks free buses are 127 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: actually going to make there be less issues on public transportation, 128 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 4: and it's a heck of a whopper that he told here. 129 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 5: Listen, we made five bus routes free in New York City. 130 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 5: When we made those bus routes free, after a year, 131 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: assaults on bus drivers dropped by thirty eight point nine 132 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 5: percent on the bus driver. The bus drivers because unlike 133 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 5: the train, the act of fare collection on the bus 134 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 5: happens on the bus. It's the and bus drivers and 135 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 5: unions have shared anecdotally that about fifty percent of assaults 136 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 5: happen around the fair box. So when you eliminate the 137 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 5: fair you make for a safer experience for the bus 138 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 5: driver for everyone. 139 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: Can I can I take mom donnyism to its logical 140 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: conclusion here? You know where there can be scuffles in 141 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: drug stores and supermarkets and things like that by the 142 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: front door with security when people steal stuff. So you 143 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: know what we could do, Clay to eliminate scuffles with security. 144 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: Just make it legal for people to steal stuff. 145 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: There we go. 146 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: That's another approach to this, right, just say you know what, 147 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: you can take whatever you want. 148 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: Now. 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: I understand public service, public transportation. They can change the 150 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 2: fee schedule. But my point here is you are just 151 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: rewarding bad behavior and thinking that that's going to stop 152 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: the bad behavior. It's just not true. This is a 153 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: really stupid idea. And also he does not have the 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 2: funding for it, but he's going to stay with this. 155 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: I write, did you ever ride public buses very much? 156 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: When I've done a ton of subway in my life. 157 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 2: I mean I was a real subway guy for a 158 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 2: long time, I have done very little. The New York 159 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: City bus is a is a humbling and often depressing experience. 160 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: Void the bus we didn't have. We don't have a 161 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: subway in Nashville. 162 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: So as a kid and we did not have I 163 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 4: went to a public school in Nashville, but there were 164 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 4: no public school buses for my school from seven to 165 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: twelfth grade, uh Martin Luther King was a school downtown Nashville. 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 4: So if you rode the bus, you rode the city bus. 167 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: So when school got out, a lot of us kids 168 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 4: would go and we would get on the city bus 169 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: and we would ride the city bus all over the 170 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: you know city. 171 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: And it's I don't know. 172 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 4: I look back now and I'm like, man, I was 173 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 4: twelve and I was just getting on the city bus 174 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: and I was just riding into downtown and I was 175 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: just walking around the city streets. There's a zero percent 176 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 4: chance my wife would let our seventh graders do that. 177 00:08:58,679 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 3: I'm just saying. 178 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 4: I I think people have gotten more protective of kids, 179 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: and I think there are benefits and disadvantages to it. 180 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 4: There's a movement I know of parents out there to 181 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: have free range kids, to have kids out and about 182 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: in streets and cities more often. 183 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 3: My point on this is. 184 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 4: Getting on the bus and paying and having your token 185 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: or having your bus pass and then having your fare. 186 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 3: Is something that makes it way safer. 187 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 4: And I just say this is somebody who rode city 188 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 4: buses because otherwise vagrants when it's cold, if there is 189 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 4: no charge, we'll just get on the bus and they 190 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 4: will sit there and they'll never leave. And producer ally 191 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 4: has talked about this. There are people who get on 192 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 4: the subway and they stink and they're homeless, and it's cold, 193 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 4: and they just stay on. I don't understand in any way. 194 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: I bet Buck they did that pilot program. I bet 195 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 4: they did it on the nicest routes that you run 196 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 4: in the New York City. I find it impossible to 197 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 4: believe that making all buses free is in any way 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 4: going to make it safer for the people who are 199 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 4: riding the buses, or that the environment's going to be better. 200 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 4: I just it does not comport with any element of 201 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: any experience that I've had as a city bus rider. 202 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 4: It's been a long time since I did it, but 203 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 4: the bus is not that expensive, and I cannot imagine 204 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: that there are that many people who would otherwise ride 205 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: that can't afford a bus fare in some way. 206 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: What kind of person do you think is physically assaulting 207 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: a bus driver. Do you think it's a person who 208 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: if only they had a free bus fare, they wouldn't 209 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: be laying hands on and becoming violent with a city employee. 210 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 3: No, Okay, this. 211 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: Is a total misunderstanding from Mamdani or a really just 212 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: I think ignorance of what it's like for people who 213 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: live in low income, high crime neighborhoods where there are 214 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: people who are just going to get into trouble. They're 215 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: going to do things, they're going to break laws, they're 216 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: going to hurt people. Making the bus free, as I've 217 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: said all along, will turn them into mobile homeless shelters. 218 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 2: That's part one, So no one's now going to feel 219 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 2: like they want to be on the bus. And two, also, 220 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: how much more redistribution of wealth and how much bigger 221 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: a a debt does the City of New York water 222 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 2: run ups? So now this will be another thing that 223 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: other people have to pay for in a city that 224 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: already has a huge welfare state in addition to federal 225 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 2: benefits that people get. And I just think that it 226 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: shows that it's totally wrongheaded in its approach. We need 227 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 2: a society where people have greater personal accountability. We want 228 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: to promote a society where people are held responsible for 229 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 2: their actions and we are all treated as equals and 230 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: as adults. But we also have consequences for when we 231 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: viholate that trust. That's the only way to make things better. 232 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: To placate the people who break the rules, are violent, 233 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: break the law. It just encourages more of it. 234 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 4: Totally, And I again I think your point on hey people, 235 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: there's not been a mass departure from New York. In general, 236 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 4: I think people exaggerate what they are going to do 237 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: when someone gets elected that they don't like be here 238 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 4: all the time. If Trump wins, I'm moving to Canada. 239 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: And to her credit, Rosie O'Donnell is like the only 240 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: person that has been famous that has left the country. 241 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 4: She went to Ireland. I give her credit because she 242 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 4: at least stood behind her comments. She doesn't seem like 243 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: she's doing very well in Ireland, doesn't seem like the 244 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 4: Irish people like her that much, doesn't seem like her 245 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 4: family's doing that well. But she followed through on her promise, 246 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: which most people do not do. What I will say 247 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 4: is I do believe that in the spring and summer 248 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: when school year end, I think there are going to 249 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 4: be a ton of people in the New York City 250 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: era area that will kick the tires on potentially leaving. 251 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: With that in mind, you live through it, Buck, If 252 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: you were willing to stay in New York City through COVID, 253 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: I don't know how much worse things would have to 254 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 4: get for you to finally say this is my breaking point. 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: For a lot of people, the COVID restrictions was the 256 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: breaking point. If you're still in New York after five years, 257 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: six years of COVID going into next year, then I 258 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 4: just don't understand how this is going to finally be 259 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 4: the tipping point that sends you off into a new horizon. Look, 260 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: Rapid radios can make a great Christmas gift modern day 261 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 4: walkie talkies, helping families stay connected even when there's a 262 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: service disruption or a power outage. 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My uncle Kenneth died at the age 281 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 4: of eighty four, and I was at his funeral in 282 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 4: East Tennessee. And he was a Vietnam Vet and worked 283 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: for Buck thirty years for South Central Bell, going around 284 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: working on phone lines all over the Chattanooga, Tennessee area. 285 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: And he was just such an amazing. 286 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: Guy, And I know there are many also Vietnam or 287 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 4: veterans out there that are listening to us right now. 288 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: And I know somewhat that has changed in the past 289 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: couple of decades about how we've responded to the people 290 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 4: who fought in that war. But I actually think we 291 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: should be doing a better job of saying thank you 292 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 4: to everyone who fought in that war. Certainly when they 293 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 4: came back, they were not embraced. It wasn't their choice 294 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: to go to that war. It wasn't their choice to 295 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 4: be putting their lives on the line, but they were 296 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: willing to answer when the country called. And my uncle 297 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 4: is representative of that generation. 298 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 3: You know. 299 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 4: He worked on helicopters, served in Vietnam. And as I 300 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: was at his funeral yesterday, he was supremely healthy for 301 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 4: eighty three and a half years, just got very sick 302 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: in the last six months with cancer. But I wanted 303 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 4: as they had the flag at his casket and as 304 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: they were talking about his service there at the funeral, 305 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 4: I wanted to just think about that, say thank you 306 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: for the responses that people have shared out there in 307 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: the audience, but bigger than that, say thank you to 308 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: everyone out there listening to us right now, that is 309 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 4: a Vietnam War vet, because I think in many ways 310 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 4: we have largely neglected saying thank you for everybody out 311 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: there who put their lives on the line in that war. 312 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: So thank you for everybody. He had an amazing life, 313 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 4: phenomenal guy. I feel honored that I had the forty 314 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 4: six years of my life to be able to experience 315 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 4: with him. He was as good of an uncle as 316 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 4: anybody could be. And it's a holiday season comes up. 317 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: I would just encourage all of you, you know, hug 318 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 4: and kiss as many friends and family members as you 319 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 4: can because we don't know when the holiday is going 320 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 4: to be the last one that we get to spend together. 321 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 4: So hopefully we all have a lot more. But last 322 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 4: Christmas was our last Christmas with him. Didn't know it, 323 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: And just would encourage everybody out there to say thank 324 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 4: you to the Vietnam Vets in your life, and also 325 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 4: to make sure that you don't neglect saying thank you 326 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 4: to anybody out there that is a member of your 327 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 4: family that you may not get to spend another Christmas with. 328 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: All Right, hopefully that wasn't too negative, but I just 329 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 4: wanted to say thank you Buck. 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Go to join buck dot com. That's 350 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 2: join Buck dot com paid for by Paradigm Press. Welcome 351 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: back in here to Clay and Buck, and we have 352 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: Senator Rand Paul with us. 353 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: Senator Paul, appreciate you being with us. Let's just jump 354 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: right into this. 355 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: So now we have an embargo going or actually a blockade, 356 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, a blockade going on of ships carrying oil 357 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 2: from Venezuela. We have a flotilla the likes of which 358 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,719 Speaker 2: the Caribbean has not seen in quite some time of 359 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: US naval and other military power. We have a effectively 360 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: an ultimatum from a duro. Is this regime change? 361 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 3: What's going on? 362 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 6: It looks like it's going to be regime change. It's 363 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 6: sort of regime change in the process. Personally, I think 364 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 6: that war should be a last resort, that we should 365 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 6: try to attempt to avoid war, and that we should 366 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 6: act in a way that we have to go to 367 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 6: war when we have to defend our country. So war 368 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 6: should be in self defense. And this to me is 369 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 6: an offensive war. It's a war because we don't like 370 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 6: the government of Venezuela. You know, I don't like socialism. 371 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 6: I wrote a book called The Case against Socialism. In it, 372 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 6: I open in the beginning the book talking about gangs 373 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 6: in Venezuela looking for food because the economy's so desperate 374 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 6: under socialism, but at the same time, we could probably 375 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 6: list two dozen countries around the world that have either 376 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 6: authoritarian rule or authoritarian socialist rule. And I just don't 377 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 6: think it's the job of the American soldier to go 378 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 6: around and spread freedom at the point of a bayonet. 379 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 6: So now I'm not for this war, and I think 380 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 6: it ought to be voted on by Congress that presidents 381 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 6: under the Constition don't have the power to initiate war 382 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 6: without approval of Congress. 383 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 4: Where we're talking to Senator r and Paul, and there 384 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 4: are a ton of things going on out there as 385 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: we finish year one of Trump two point zero, what 386 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: would you if you were giving a letter grade, given 387 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 4: the fact that exams are going on all over the 388 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: country right now, what letter grade would you give President 389 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 4: Trump and his administration on year one two point zero? 390 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 4: And what do you think should be the top priorities 391 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: when Congress returns to action in in January of twenty twenty. 392 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 6: Six, Let's say a triple plus on controlling the border. 393 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 6: And in fact, they did so well and did it 394 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 6: so quickly that they've actually forgotten to tell the American 395 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 6: people they did it, so it's become accepted you know, 396 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 6: just everybody expects now the border is controlled, But this 397 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 6: was a border that Biden was letting millions of people 398 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 6: cross unintended, many of them a danger to our community, 399 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 6: and a lawlessness at the border. He came in and 400 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 6: within three months controlled that. I think the mistake is 401 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 6: they've moved on to other things instead of promoting and 402 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 6: telling the people about what a good job they did 403 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 6: on the border. On maintaining the tax cuts that I 404 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 6: supported back in twenty seventeen, a triple plus, great idea 405 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 6: to continue those tax cuts. On spending and deficit, you know, 406 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 6: about the same grade that all parties get. You know, 407 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 6: Republicans and Democrats have historically been terrible with the debt, 408 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 6: and I think the debt continues to accumulate it an 409 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 6: alarming rate. We now have over a trillion dollars in interest. 410 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 6: So I think they can do much better on spending 411 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 6: and debt. But on the taxation level, pretty good and 412 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 6: on the border great. 413 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 5: Now. 414 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: You have been very vocal Senator Paul about these strikes 415 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: on suspected or alleged narco boats and mostly the Caribbean, 416 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: also some in the Eastern Pacific off the coast of Mexico. 417 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 2: Are there other Senate colleagues on the Republican side who 418 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 2: share your concerns. 419 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: And what would you like to see? 420 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 2: What would the administration have to do, this White House 421 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 2: have to do for your concerns to be allayed regarding 422 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: these strikes. 423 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 6: You know, one of the questions I've been putting forward 424 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 6: is are they armed? I mean, we have a long 425 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 6: standing tradition, not just here but around the world among 426 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 6: civilized people that we don't shoot unarmed people. So, you know, 427 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 6: some questions came out, do we shoot shipwrecked people when 428 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 6: people were clinging the wreckage, and it's actually part of 429 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 6: our military law that we don't. We also usually don't 430 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 6: shoot unarmed people. So these boats that are alleged to 431 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 6: curing drugs, probably a lot of them do have drugs. 432 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 6: I'm not disputing that most of these boats don't have 433 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 6: the capability to even get to the United States. They 434 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 6: can go about one hundred miles and after be fuel. 435 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 6: So a lot of these drugs, if they are drugs, 436 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 6: are being distributed by unarmed people into some of the 437 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 6: Lower Caribbean islands. What we've done historically for crimes is 438 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 6: we capture you and prosecute you. It's difficult work, it's 439 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 6: not easy, but that's what we have always expected, and 440 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 6: Coast Guard interdicts these boats routinely, still does. And the 441 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 6: ratio of boats that have drugs to those who don't 442 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 6: is about one in four of every boat that's boarded 443 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 6: doesn't have drugs. So that's a pretty high airr rate. 444 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 6: To expect that we're going to kill unarmed people based 445 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 6: on an air rate of about one in four being 446 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 6: picking up the wrong people. So I'm absolutely opposed to this. 447 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 6: I think that you know, there are are some on 448 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 6: the Republican side who uneasy, but most voices have been 449 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 6: somewhat tamped down on the Republican side on any policy 450 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 6: if they disagree with the president. But I think that 451 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 6: makes us weak as a country. I think we all 452 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 6: need to be big enough to be able to have 453 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 6: criticism even within the party. 454 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: What should happen on healthcare? I know you and the 455 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 4: President have been going back and forth on some disagreements 456 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,479 Speaker 4: and issues, but there's talk that maybe the government's going 457 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 4: to shut down again. In January, I saw where Chuck 458 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,640 Speaker 4: Schumer refused to say that he would not shut down 459 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 4: the government again. Tell me if you think I'm wrong, Senator, 460 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 4: but it feels like to me that a big part 461 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty six Democrat plan as they get 462 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 4: ready to run in the midterms, is going to be 463 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: shutting down the government arguing that Republicans all want to 464 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 4: take away everybody's health care and they want everybody to die. 465 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: I mean, we all know how this is going to 466 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: play out. It seems kind of clear to me what 467 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: should happen, what will happen in the world of healthcare. 468 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 6: On healthcare, President Trump and I have a great deal 469 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 6: of agreement. We work together in the first administration to 470 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 6: craft an executive order that the intention was to allow 471 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 6: people to buy insurance across state lines, and insurance as 472 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 6: part of a co op or a collective like Sam's 473 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 6: Club or Costco. The problem with the executive order is 474 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 6: the problem we all often have with executive orders is 475 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 6: the law's not changed. We try to bend the law 476 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 6: through an executive order, people sue in court. So all 477 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 6: the Democrat ag sued. They tied it up in court 478 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 6: and never really got to have its full effect. But 479 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 6: I've communicated with the President in the last couple of 480 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 6: weeks and he says he still favors this policy that 481 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 6: I've been pushing, and mine would basically cost nothing, didn't 482 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 6: cost the taxpayer or anything. Just makes it legal to 483 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 6: buy a cross state lines and makes it legal for 484 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 6: anybody that wants to collect people together, particularly groups that 485 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 6: already exist like Amazon, Costco or Sam's Club, to buy 486 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 6: insurance as a group. What would happen is and really 487 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 6: have no more individual market. So if you're an accountant 488 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 6: and you have three employees you buy insurance for, or 489 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 6: maybe you're a construction guid and you got one hundred employees, 490 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 6: why would you want to buy insurance on your own? 491 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 6: Why not join a private collective that negotiates better prices. 492 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 6: And I think we could really drive prices down if 493 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 6: you just take the subsidies that we're currently giving to 494 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 6: insurance companies and you give those subsidies to people's health 495 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: savings accounts. I think that's just a distinction without a difference. 496 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 6: You're still giving away money we don't have, and it's 497 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 6: still going to all wind up in an insurance company's pocket. 498 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 6: So my association health plans would bring prices down. The 499 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 6: other thing I would do is I wouldn't give taxpayer 500 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 6: money to health savings accounts. But I would let everyone 501 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 6: have a health savings account. Right now, only ten percent 502 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 6: of insurance plans sold. Is it legal to have health 503 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 6: savings account? People on Medicare cannot have health savings accounts. 504 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 6: I would let everybody in America have health savings account. 505 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 6: I get a thing I got to do to think 506 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 6: about this is think about how many kids have braces. 507 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 6: I had three kids that all had braces, but I 508 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 6: did it with pre tax money through my ol Sami's account. 509 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 6: It's not fair that only ten percent of the public 510 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 6: gets that we should let that great benefit accrue to everyone. 511 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 2: It's being the Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky and Senator 512 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: Affordability is the big catchword for what is a focus 513 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty six policy and politics. People are already 514 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: projecting that the mid terms will take affordability into account 515 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: in a major way. And affordability is really just kitchen 516 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: table economics, right. This is a concept that we've been 517 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: dealing with for as long as American political parties have 518 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: been vying for attention and power. But what do you 519 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: see as the ways that the administration and to the degree 520 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: Congress well I'm not sure Congress is going to be 521 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: able to. 522 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: Do much on this. 523 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: But what do you see as the best way forward, 524 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 2: especially on the housing issue, because it's so complicated, so important, 525 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 2: and it has gotten too expensive for the average American 526 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 2: family to be able to afford the median. 527 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 3: Home in this country. What can be done? What should 528 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: be done? 529 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 6: Well? Pipbuf to realize, the price of things goes up 530 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 6: because of the value of your dollar shrinks. So part 531 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 6: of the reason that President Trump won this last time 532 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 6: around was because it was becoming unaffordable to live under Biden. 533 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 6: Biden had about twenty percent inflation in four years, and 534 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 6: wages rose less less rapidly. So if you add in 535 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 6: a little bit of inflation under Trump plus the twenty 536 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 6: percent under Biden, it's about twenty five percent inflation over 537 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 6: the last five years. That twenty five percent. Unless your 538 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 6: wages went up twenty five percent, you've all gotten four. 539 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 6: So people are being squeezed it. Things are less affordable 540 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 6: because of the value of the dollar. Why does the 541 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 6: dollar lose its value because of the debt? The debt 542 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 6: is bought by the Federal Reserve. They buy it by 543 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 6: introducing new dollars into circulation and devalues of the dollars 544 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 6: we have. That's what price inflation is. It's not a mystery. 545 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 6: It comes from debt and then the printing of money 546 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 6: to pay for the debt. So I think they need 547 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 6: to explain it better and explain where inflation comes from, 548 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 6: and then you combat it basically by introducing balanced budgets 549 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 6: and less debt. Now, the problem is both parties are 550 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 6: terrible with debt. You know, Biden was terrible with it, 551 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 6: but really the previous Trump administration added eight trillion, then 552 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 6: Biden added eight trillion. We're on target to add another 553 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 6: eight or nine trillion under this administration. So we have 554 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 6: to do a better job at controlling debt and affordability. 555 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 6: With housing, part of it's the loss of the value 556 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 6: of the dollar, but part of it also is controls 557 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 6: that forbid you from you know, raising or improving the 558 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 6: value of things like rent control in New York is 559 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 6: a disaster. It's why you have no apartments and none 560 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 6: of them get fixed up because if you can only 561 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 6: charge four hundred dollars to live in Manhattan, guess what, 562 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: there's no money left over to do any of the repairs. 563 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 6: And so these apartments are just decaying in New York. 564 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 6: But people need to I realize that rent control in 565 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 6: New York is the same thing they have in Venezuela. 566 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 6: That's why they have no food. So when you have 567 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 6: price controls, it's a variation of socialism. And they've just 568 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: elected a socialist mayor in New York. So I think 569 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 6: they're going to have to get a lot worse before 570 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 6: it gets better, until hopefully the young people of America 571 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 6: will see socialism for the disaster that it is. 572 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: What is the one start? Yeah, no, go ahead. 573 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 2: I was going to say, what is the one thing 574 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: Senator Paul that if you could get President Trump to 575 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: really dial in and focus on, for him to spearhead 576 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: and try to accomplish next year in advance in the midterms, 577 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: what would it. 578 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 6: Be proposing a budget that balances, proposing to spend less money. 579 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 6: The hard and difficult part of that equation, though, is 580 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 6: that most of the money are entitlements. Two thirds of 581 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 6: the spending of governments entitlements, one third is military and 582 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 6: non military discretionary. That's what we vote on. The hard 583 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: part about the deficit is the deficit's about two trillion, 584 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 6: and the budget that Congress votes on is about two trillion, 585 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 6: so you get actually zero out. And I'm not proposing this, 586 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 6: but if you had zero military spending and zero discretionary 587 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 6: welfare spending, you'd balance your budget, which means basically the 588 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 6: taxes that come in are equivalent to all the mandatory 589 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 6: programs without the discretionary programs. So we are really buying 590 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 6: the eight ball. And this gets worse over time. I mean, 591 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 6: it's going to become an escalating problem that will at 592 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 6: some point spiral out of control. And it's fixable now 593 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 6: if you do something. We gradually start fixing the entitlements. 594 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 6: But the President, as many of his predecessors have said, oh, 595 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 6: I'm not going to touch entitlements. It's the third rail, 596 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 6: so we're going to stay away from that. And then 597 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 6: when we had the discussion over the Big Beautiful Bill, 598 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 6: some of us tried to fix medicaid in that bill 599 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 6: and say, look, they got to at least have the 600 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 6: same formula for the states that we once had where 601 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 6: the states pay part, federal government pays part. Instead Obamacare, 602 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 6: I had all these people to medicaid and said, oh, 603 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 6: the federal government will pay the whole thing. And those 604 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 6: people are still on and because it was free or 605 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 6: virtually free to the states, the state said, sure, we'll 606 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 6: welcome more people in Medicaid, and more people join Medicaid. 607 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 6: Everybody's gotten on food stamps. We served Coca cola to 608 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 6: people on food stamps. We served ding Dongs, twinkies, donuts. 609 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 6: I mean, it's just candy. You can buy candy on 610 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 6: food stamps. So we've got to do more on having 611 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: government live within its means. 612 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 2: Senator Ran Paul, appreciate you, sir. 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Preborn dot com slash b Uck 638 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 2: sponsored by Preborn. 639 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: US and Politics, but also a little comic relief Clay 640 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton. 641 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app wherever you get 642 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 4: your podcast. I saw this this morning as I was 643 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: getting ready for the show, and I absolutely loved it. 644 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 4: There is a one hundred and one year old patriot 645 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 4: who got up. He's a World War two vet and 646 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 4: he was singing the praises of President Trump, and I 647 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 4: thought to myself, We've got to make sure that everybody 648 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,280 Speaker 4: out there hears this. This man's name is Bill Dillon. 649 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: This is the Champions for America second Annual Galas celebration. 650 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 4: He said he'd like to get back and return to 651 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 4: military service for President Trump. Listen to this enthusiasm, cut one. 652 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 6: Than this. 653 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: A little bit difficult maybe to hear that. 654 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 4: I don't know why, because I could hear it perfectly 655 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 4: on my phone, but he is up and he says, 656 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 4: I'm one hundred and one going on one hundred and two, 657 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 4: and if President Trump would let me, I'd put on 658 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: the uniform and go fight for him today. And so 659 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 4: I just thought that was awesome and wanted to make 660 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: sure I shared it before we rolled into the holiday. 661 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 4: A lot of awesome things going on. I know, sometimes 662 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 4: we focus on some negative things, and there's a lot 663 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: of awesomeness out there. 664 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 3: Buck, can we come back. 665 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 4: Let's uh, let's dive into a little bit more on 666 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: that Brown University shooter. What's going on there? And Scott 667 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 4: Bessen is pointing something interesting out that is, as millions 668 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 4: of people have left the country who were here illegally, 669 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 4: something extraordinary starting to happen. Basic economics are at play. 670 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,320 Speaker 4: Rints are starting to come down across much of the country. 671 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 4: It's amazing how that works. We'll talk about some of that. 672 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: Plus we've got Katie Zachariah scheduled to join us at 673 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 4: the bottom of the hour, and it is Buck's final 674 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 4: hour of the year. 675 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 2: She's up next, Actually she's up until she's up in 676 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: a few minutes. You're talking about California and all the 677 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: good things going on or not so good things going 678 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: on over there. 679 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 3: Stick around.