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Speaker 1: Guy and Dale Lilly here with Matt Williamson and Matt.

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Speaker 1: As I mentioned prior to credit ending the last segment,

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Speaker 1: I got an email right before the show started today

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Speaker 1: and it's from odds Checker. Okay, and they got compiled

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Speaker 1: a list of over under totals for NFL teams based

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Speaker 1: on what's happened so far this offseason. These are these

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Speaker 1: are up to date. Everything's here. You want to start

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Speaker 1: the bottom or you want to start at the top.

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Speaker 1: Surprise me. Okay, let's start the bottom. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we need to mention this. But remember, folks, there's seventeen

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Speaker 1: games now. Yes, that's different than it used to be. Yes.

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Speaker 1: So the team, well, the first of all, the team

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Speaker 1: So so people in the know, you know that you

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Speaker 1: can place bets on these Folks in Vegas are pretty bright.

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Speaker 1: They have that off the board. They have that off

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Speaker 1: the board thinking something is coming. We just don't know what. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: they tend to know a thing or two. At four

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Speaker 1: they don't have any good players. Yet the Jets come

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Speaker 1: But I think it's pretty clear that after the first

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Speaker 1: And I feel I feel pretty confident about the Saints

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Speaker 1: like what's your what's your record going to be in

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Speaker 1: How are the Patriots still in eight and a half

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Speaker 1: Ms Robinsky? We haven't seen now we I say this,

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Speaker 1: may I go under on the Cardinals. I think I

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