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Speaker 1: Hello ship oh la oh right, because you're in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Last week we did our words and

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Speaker 1: you were like, I'm going to be nestled in home,

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Speaker 2: And then it's snowed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then it's snowed and you're like, peace out. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to Mexico.

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Speaker 2: Oh bye, what are you doing in Mexico.

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Speaker 3: I'm here for a festival. Els playing the annual crash

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Speaker 3: My Plaia Festival. Yeah, so came down for that. She's

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Speaker 3: playing tonight, coming back tomorrow. But we're recording this on Wednesday.

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Speaker 3: Just for those of you who think we're live.

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Speaker 1: I don't really think anyone cares or knows, but thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you for learning the listeners, So chips in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: We are here actually though this this week, you're being

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Speaker 1: discussed a lot on the podcast, whether you know it

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Speaker 1: Alexander Alexandra Sowah. I think that's how you pronounce her

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Speaker 1: last name. She wrote this book called the Ozembic Revolution.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't listened to that podcast, it was very interesting.

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Speaker 1: She's very informative, and I was telling you who you

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Speaker 1: are an Ozembic user. We talked about you a lot

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Speaker 1: because one of my big things in life is like,

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Speaker 1: And so seeing this rise of ozimpic as this weight

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Speaker 1: How is this long lasting? How is this actually getting

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Speaker 1: to the root of the problem. What about everyone's health

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Speaker 1: So anyway, it was super helpful for me for just

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Speaker 1: So we had a great conversation. Go check it out.

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Speaker 1: But obviously on Fridays, we you know, start talking about

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Speaker 1: I want to hear how this has been for you,

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Speaker 1: because you've lost a ton of weight. You look amazing,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know I arrived, I was like everyone

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Speaker 2: Off the food we call it food noise.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and for people that have struggles with weight, it's

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Speaker 1: one hand, you've lost a lot of weight and you

439
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 1: look great, but there's also an energy about you that

440
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: I can I can see and maybe it's because I

441
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,160
Speaker 1: know you so well, but it's like there's a confidence,

442
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: there's an energy, there's you feel comfortable in your own

443
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 1: skin kind of so when you walk in a room,

444
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: it's it's very different, it is, and so like, oh

445
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: my god, whoa, you look great or like so maybe

446
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: you can even say like you look like you're feeling

447
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: your like feeling good in your skin.

448
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.

449
00:22:53,720 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: Okay, we've kind of mentioned a couple of the things

450
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 1: about talking about weight loss and also like just my

451
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 1: new understanding of obesity after having the conversation with doctor Soa,

452
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: because I just didn't understand. And I know that sounds

453
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: very ignorant, but I think we all have these things.

454
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,440
Speaker 1: The more she talked about it, I was like, this

455
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: is no different from any sort of addiction or not

456
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: paying attention to what we're doing in our culture, like

457
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,919
Speaker 1: kind of just going through the motions of life without

458
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: being really present and aware with ourselves. And so to me,

459
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: it's like very applicable to very like a lot of

460
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: things that a lot of people can probably relate to,

461
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 1: even if they don't relate to obesity. But it is

462
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: more than just willpower. And you kind of touched on

463
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,360
Speaker 1: this a little bit with like the driving past McDonald's,

464
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: So like when you are talking about those kind of circumstances,

465
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: can you help people who might not fully understand what

466
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: that's like? Is it it's is it like another addiction.

467
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 3: Of Well, I mean you have to think about there's

468
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 3: so many factors that affect how we think about food. Yeah,

469
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 3: there's advertising, which we're constantly being advertised, especially things like

470
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: fast food and snacks. There's also food manufacturing and food

471
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,639
Speaker 3: I mean manufacturing, not even just growth, Like when you

472
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: think about all the chemicals that they're putting into.

473
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: Foods just to taste certain ways.

474
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Speaker 3: I read yesterday that the US is about to ban

475
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: red number five.

476
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: They are going to do it. I had read they

477
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: were in talks for that.

478
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: But that's great.

479
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: That's one.

480
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it was banned for in nineteen ninety for

481
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 3: a minute and then they pulled it back. But yeah,

482
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 3: it sounds like the FDA is moving forward to remove it.

483
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's just so many factors. And then also

484
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 3: on the flip side of it, like everyone's super attractive

485
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 3: and modeling and everyone's then so there's like an ideal

486
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: that has put out into the world that just creates

487
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: more shame, which then drives you to your comfort, which

488
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: is probably food, and it's a self flfilling prophecy. I

489
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: think in terms of just straight up obese too, it

490
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: is like when you think about how our media portrays

491
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 3: it too, it is about being fat versus skinny, and

492
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: there's no mental there's no mental part of it being addressed.

493
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 3: So it's like when you think of shows like My

494
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,119
Speaker 3: six hundred Pound Life, it's kind of like just putting

495
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 3: obesity like front and center, and they're not like talking

496
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 3: about the real issues deeply because they're just trying to

497
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 3: make good television even unlike The Biggest Loser, it was

498
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 3: just like about how much weight you lost and it

499
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: wasn't about how much you changed. And I don't know, Like, look,

500
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 3: I don't produce television shows, and I know that the

501
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: whole goal is to make entertainment, but I don't think

502
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: it necessarily helped because it wasn't giving. And I've read

503
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 3: that a lot of the people that participate on that

504
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 3: show ended up gaining their way back because they were

505
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 3: just being starved and working out too much and it

506
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: wasn't a full reset. I'm not really answering the question properly,

507
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 3: but I to get back to your question about like

508
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 3: the McDonald's.

509
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: It is it is just a.

510
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 3: When you think about food all the time, not only

511
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 3: are you thinking about eating it, but if you recognize,

512
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: like I have had the conversation with myself more times

513
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: than I could probably count, like when I have a

514
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: moment like that, like chip, you don't need a milkshake? Yeah,

515
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: but I really want one, But you don't need one. Okay,

516
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: I know I don't need it. I'm just I talk.

517
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 3: I can talk myself out of it sometimes and sometimes

518
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: I can't. And it really it is having a devil

519
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: on your shoulder, and so there is it's not just

520
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 3: a physical manifestation, there is a whole mental piece to

521
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: it too. And when you think about the fact that

522
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: bad foods are cheaper for you than healthy foods, and

523
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 3: the idea of convenience is so important for work. I mean,

524
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 3: we now live in a society where most households have

525
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: two working parents. So coming home and making a really

526
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 3: quick dinner for your family of four, five, six, however

527
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 3: many kids you have, it's a lot on a parent

528
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 3: to have to do that. And let's not even get

529
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: started with single family, single parent homes, like that's even

530
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: more challenging. And when you can feed a family cheaper

531
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: at McDonald's and you can go into the grocery store,

532
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 3: what are you going to choose if you're a broke

533
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: single mom or single dad. So it's the system is

534
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: broken and not really designed for us to be healthy.

535
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 3: And then you have to think about the rewards to

536
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: the medical system. To me, the fact that this miracle

537
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: drug that now exists that we've all been dreaming of

538
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: is not covered by most insurance. I mean, it's covered

539
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 3: if you've got diabetes, they'll cover it, But if you're

540
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: just fat and want to get skinny.

541
00:27:58,680 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: It doesn't cover it.

542
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, that makes me scratch my head because I like,

543
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: obesity is the root CAUs to so many other.

544
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: Health diabetes being one of them.

545
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the disease, all of the things.

546
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: Why aren't we try to that It should be the

547
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 3: first thing that insurance companies are covering so that they're

548
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: not having to cover all of the other shit that

549
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: comes with being overweight. But does the medical industry really

550
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 3: want people to be healthy? Because then you have less

551
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: people coming in for shit. So I mean that's the

552
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist in me. But why the fuck isn't it

553
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 3: covered right?

554
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: Well? I mean I think that's These are the questions

555
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: I think we're all asking as a society as a whole,

556
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: and I think that they're good questions. I think the

557
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: conversation about food and all of the stuff you're mentioning

558
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: changing is also a really good conversation. And like you said,

559
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: this was like a really good job start for you.

560
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: And it's like what doctor Soa told me, where it's like,

561
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: you can't treat a disease with prevention. You have to

562
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: treat a disease with treatment, and then incorporate prevention. So

563
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: to me, it's a it's a whole picture kind of thing,

564
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: and it's a whole circle and it's very interesting to

565
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: hear about someone's personal journey with it. So I really

566
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: appreciate you, and none of the listeners appreciate you being

567
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: so open about that.

568
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: And one other quick thing I want to add, because

569
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: I did, I you know, in full disclosure, I also

570
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: hired I've got a trainer named Will who is It's

571
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 3: everything's done through an app and online and text, so

572
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: I've never even met him face to face other than

573
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,479
Speaker 3: on zoom. He's in Las Vegas, and that has been

574
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: a game changer to me. And I'll admit, like the

575
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: hardest part of it all has been getting my food

576
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 3: right because I didn't grow up in a household where

577
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: we never had salad for dinner as a side, yeah,

578
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: or like a big sat like, I mean, we ate

579
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 3: good and I think my mom thought she was being

580
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 3: as healthy as possible, but there was cheese on our broccoli,

581
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: you know, like it was a very American style diet

582
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 3: and I never really learned how to cook. It's been

583
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 3: so it's been the most that has been the most

584
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 3: challenging part and for twenty twenty five is kind of

585
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: like I feel like I've gotten I'm committed to working out,

586
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm committed to eating better, but the eating and cooking

587
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: and that portion is really what I want to focus

588
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 3: on this year, because, like they say, abs are made

589
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 3: in the kitchen, not in the gym. It's so to

590
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: you cannot do enough setups to outwork a bad diet.

591
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: So and I feel like I've kind of hit a

592
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 3: wall with my weight loss, and so I know that

593
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 3: that is the one piece of the puzzle that I

594
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 3: have to dial in this year, and I'm going to

595
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 3: be exactly where I want to be by the time

596
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 3: I'm fifty.

597
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: They go, yeah, so that's my core.

598
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do take that for granted too.

599
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: I was telling you before the podcast, like I grew

600
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: up both of my parents were athletes, you know, they ran.

601
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: My mom was like a marathon runner, and so they

602
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: ate very well. Like my dad was a football player

603
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,239
Speaker 1: at LSU. Like I just grew up with that, and

604
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: so I don't know any different, but I've realized how

605
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: lucky it is now. And that's what she was telling

606
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: me on the podcast, Like you literally there's only very

607
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: few people that could survive the changes in our culture

608
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: that started in the eighties when I was born, so

609
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: basically my whole life, my parents did such a good

610
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: job of teaching me still how to eat clean, what

611
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: our body needs as fuel. And then I was an

612
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: athlete and so I needed that and I was always

613
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: very active. So it's just like all these components that

614
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: I never have thought about that have really helped me

615
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: to stay healthy in this world. But our world is

616
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: not set up to teach that, Like, why are we

617
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: not teaching that stuff? It kills me. I don't understand.

618
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I look back at my childhood and like

619
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: sweets and shit were a reward, like bad foods were

620
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: rewards for me, of course, And really it's such a

621
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: healthy way to think about food, like we only need

622
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: food to survive. It is a fuel, it's fuel for

623
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: our body. And the way that we've sort of turned

624
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 3: it into a reward. And I see my friends with kids,

625
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: it's like, just to shut them up, you'll give them

626
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: a bag of EM and M's.

627
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: And it really makes your life worse later though, because

628
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: when kids sugar bars, they're terrible.

629
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 3: Well, and it also it creates an addiction, right, you know,

630
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: and it's a condition. It's really a conditioning too. So

631
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: it's like then when you're an adult and you're drunk

632
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: and you're like, I feel bad, I want McDonald's. Like

633
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: you reward yourself with those bad things, if you've been

634
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: conditioned to do it, whereas you are conditioned to eat

635
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: well because your family conditioned you to do that.

636
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 2: So you don't know any differently.

637
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: Well, like when I eat bad, I just feel it

638
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: so bad. Like it's not that I don't ever and

639
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: there are times where you know, I'm just kind of

640
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: on a like yeah, I need like a fry. I

641
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: love a French fry. But like or you know, holiday seasons,

642
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: like we're talking about, you're at parties, you're at dinners

643
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: or whatever, and it is harder to eat whatever. But

644
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for so long that I'll find

645
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: stuff pretty much everywhere that I can eat at this point,

646
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: Like everyone's always like, how do you do gluten free?

647
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: Dairy free? Actually it's really easy now, Like there's so

648
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: many options, and because I know what real food is,

649
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: Like I've done a bunch of like whole thirty resets

650
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 1: and like different diets not to lose weight, but because

651
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: I actually care about what's happening on the inside because

652
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: I feel it like I feel it so drastically because

653
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: of how I grew up. I think so right. Anyway, Well,

654
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: I know you got to go. You got to go

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Speaker 1: to this festival and live it up. Hopefully you can

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Speaker 1: find some clean food. Actually, Mexico has great food.

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Speaker 3: They Mexican food is can be very very clean in

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Speaker 3: health healthy, Yeah, because there's a lot of whole ingredients.

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Speaker 1: A lot of friends, a lot of vegetables.

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Speaker 3: I had faetas yesterday that were probably the best feet

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Speaker 3: as I've ever had in my life. And one of

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Speaker 3: the things that I noted to the people I was

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Speaker 3: with was they didn't come out sizzling because the sizzling

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Speaker 3: isn't necessary for heat. That's flash that the American Mexican

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Speaker 3: restaurants have added if they square oil on the food

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Speaker 3: that's on a hot plate and its sizzles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Mine came out on a regular plate and was so

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Speaker 3: clean and healthy, and it was after round of a

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Speaker 3: big mound and it was great.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I always say to people as

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Speaker 1: a way to know if you're eating clean or not,

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Speaker 1: is you shouldn't feel tired after you eat. And I

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Speaker 1: think in America we're so accustomed to we eat a

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Speaker 1: meal and then you're tired, you have that lull. Well,

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Speaker 1: that means there's a bunch of junk in your food.

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Speaker 1: That's the biggest that's the quickest way to know. Is

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Speaker 1: because food is fuel, like you said, and so what

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to feel after you eat. And I think

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Speaker 1: in a lot of countries when we go out to

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Speaker 1: eat and stuff, because they're not putting so much junk

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Speaker 1: in their food, you do feel this way. Like I've

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Speaker 1: heard people talk about Italy even like they could go

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Speaker 1: eat a whole pizza and go run a marathon after

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Speaker 1: like they don't feel heavy and tired. So anyway, if

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Speaker 1: you're feeling that way after you eat, that's a good

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Speaker 1: indicator that maybe there's something in your food that's inflaming

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Speaker 1: your body inside making you tired. And then inflammation over

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Speaker 1: a long periods of time or long term is the

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Speaker 1: cause of all disease. So it's like food is I mean,

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Speaker 1: that is what's making us so sick in our culture,

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Speaker 1: and that's why there's so much cancer, That's why there's

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Speaker 1: all this stuff, so I'm glad in some ways that

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Speaker 1: this is coming around and people at the same time

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Speaker 1: that people are starting to pay attention to what's in

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Speaker 1: our food. I think it's the perfect timing. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: thank you for sharing your story with us. And I

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Speaker 1: know Chip would be willing to talk to anyone who

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Speaker 1: is interested in talking about this or going on this

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Speaker 1: journey themselves or curious about it, so you can always

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Speaker 1: email us at the Edge at Velvestage dot com, or

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Speaker 1: if you want to hit him up directly on Instagram. Chip,

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Speaker 1: what is your insta?

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Speaker 2: I'm at Chip Doors.

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Speaker 3: It's Chip d r SCCH and I'm happy to give

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Speaker 3: the information about where I'm getting my compound and pharmacy

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Speaker 3: stuff from too, so just hit me up.

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Speaker 1: And maybe even your trainer since you can do it. Actually,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting too, So anyway, hit him up for all

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Speaker 1: that if you want to talk to me about anything.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Velvet's Edge. And as you guys go into

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Speaker 1: the weekends and you're living on the edge, I hope

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Speaker 1: you always remember too

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Speaker 2: A casual bye bye