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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm born Vocabon and

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Speaker 1: I'm Anne Reyes. And today we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: frozen waffles and eggo waffles in particular. Yes, because it's

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Speaker 1: about time for a lot of us to retreat into

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Speaker 1: our caves over the next few days and Netflix caves. Yes,

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Speaker 1: and bench watch the second season of Stranger Things. If

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Speaker 1: you've seen Stranger Things, I'm going to guess a lot

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Speaker 1: of you have. If you haven't and you're interested, check

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Speaker 1: it out. Um. But we all know, we all know,

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Speaker 1: those frozen waffles that Eleven loves in the bright yellow

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Speaker 1: box are eggs and that's what we're gonna talk about today. Um. So, first,

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Speaker 1: as we frequently do, by frequently, I mean all the time,

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Speaker 1: what is it? I think it can be explained in

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Speaker 1: this simple quote. A waffle is like a pancake with

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Speaker 1: a styrup trap from Mitch Hedberg. Yeah, a waffle has

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Speaker 1: kind of like a like a grid pattern. It's like

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Speaker 1: a three D pancakes sort of kind of. Uh. It's

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Speaker 1: it's within the realm of a pastry. It's usually a

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Speaker 1: lightly sweetened kind of bread product. Mm hmm. It's um.

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Speaker 1: The dough was usually got some kind of milk, eggs, butter,

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Speaker 1: maybe a levening agent, a rising agent. Um. They run

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Speaker 1: into the into the light and fluffy on the inside

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Speaker 1: and crispy on the outside kind of concept. They're very tasty. Um.

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Speaker 1: Eggo waffles are generally frozen waffles. They come in yellow boxes,

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Speaker 1: eight to a pack, neutragrain eggos. Where might go to

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Speaker 1: breakfast for a number of years when I was a kid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I loved the blueberry ones. I love waffles in general,

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Speaker 1: but that I feel you have to get the texture

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Speaker 1: right are they're They're worthless. They have to be krispy.

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Speaker 1: If you get like a saggy waffle, it's so disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Oh soggy waffle. Yeah, that's a that's a great name

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Speaker 1: for something. Um. Frozen waffles, pancakes, and French toast is

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Speaker 1: for sixty of that over. Yeah, yeah, and um, if

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Speaker 1: we look at, Kellogg's sold four point five more waffles

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Speaker 1: and preceding five years than any year coming before that.

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Speaker 1: They also sell aforementioned frozen pancakes and French toast, along

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Speaker 1: with frozen breakfast sandwiches and the Bloomberg article I got

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Speaker 1: this number from, by the way, was titled who killed

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Speaker 1: Tony the Tiger? Yeah? Okay, basically that EGA was capitalizing

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Speaker 1: off of fears about the health of cereal, even though

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Speaker 1: they're both carb products with sugar added. Okay, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So let's do a brief rundown of waffles, shall we Yes, So,

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Speaker 1: the ancestors of waffles are oblios, which are these ancient

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Speaker 1: Grecian cakes that were roasted between two metal plates, and

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Speaker 1: then the two metal plates had it had a wooden

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Speaker 1: and out of an oven. By medieval times, these had

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Speaker 1: developed into oblius, which were these these large, unleavened wafers

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Speaker 1: that were made primarily by u either members of the

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Speaker 1: Catholic Church or people trying to sell stuff to the

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Speaker 1: Catholic Church um and a lot of them depicted religious iconography.

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Speaker 1: By the fourteen hundreds, these had developed into recipes more

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Speaker 1: like we're familiar with waffles being today, and the Dutch

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Speaker 1: had started using rectangular plates that were forged with a

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Speaker 1: grid pattern on them, though historians aren't sure whether this

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Speaker 1: was a decorative choice or like a practical matter For

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Speaker 1: bakers to design something with a greater surface area so

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Speaker 1: that you can you can get you know, the waff

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Speaker 1: more crispy or faster. Yeah um. And to make these

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Speaker 1: just s thoughtful. So you had those two baking plates

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Speaker 1: with the long handles, and they needed to stay hot

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Speaker 1: a fire at the batter close up between the plates,

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Speaker 1: put it over a fire minute per side, and then

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Speaker 1: quickly remove the waffle so it didn't overcook. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: real paint um. Americans were the ones to pair waffles

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Speaker 1: as a breakfast food. Everywhere else it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson again. Wait what why? I know? Right? So,

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Speaker 1: the first thing you need to know about Thomas Jefferson

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Speaker 1: loved them. He loved them. He loved them so much

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Speaker 1: seventy nine and would cook them at waffle parties. Waffle parties, yes,

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Speaker 1: Leslie Note probably eats around three d three waffles a year.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's a lot of waffles. Yes, Leslie

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Speaker 1: which shares the date with Our Lady's Day. So Leslie

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Speaker 1: or at least in Sweden anyway, those those waffle parties

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Speaker 1: of Thomas Jefferson's where we're called waffle frolics. Waffle frolics.

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Speaker 1: which probably comes from a similar Germanic word meaning honeycomb

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Speaker 1: very interesting um after. A waffle iron maid to be

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Speaker 1: used over a coal stove, was patented in the US

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Speaker 1: in eighteen sixty nine by Dutch American Cornelius Swartwout. Swartwout,

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Speaker 1: Cornelius Swartwout, where have you been all my life? Please

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Speaker 1: gets the Harry Potter name if I've ever heard one.

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Speaker 1: Americans followed the lead of Jefferson and through their own

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Speaker 1: six Fanny Farmers the Fanny Farmer Cookbook came out with

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Speaker 1: a recipe on how to make raised yeast waffles. And

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Speaker 1: this is a big moment on the waffle timeline. Before that,

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Speaker 1: waffles were essentially just pancakes but with holes. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: The first electric waffle iron was introduced in nineteen eleven

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Speaker 1: Apart from efficiency improvements and some bells and whistles, we

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Speaker 1: generally use the same thing to this day. However, cooking

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Speaker 1: waffles took precious time, and we Americans didn't want to

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Speaker 1: of course, not so time is money, It is time

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Speaker 1: is waffles. Time is waffles. Enter the frozen waffle. But

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Speaker 1: first a quick break for a word from our sponsor,

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Speaker 1: time to talk about what's on everyone's mind. Mayonnaise. Mayonnaise. Wait,

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Speaker 1: where do you think this was going? This is this

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Speaker 1: is like a sleeper episode. It's actually about mayonnaise. Okay. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So in and San Jose, California, brothers Frank Anthony and

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Speaker 1: Sam Dorset decided to do some food experiments in their

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Speaker 1: own brand of mayonnaise, which they advertised throughout the Great

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Speaker 1: Depression as using triple refined vegetable oil and on fresh

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Speaker 1: which led them to call their product Eggo mayonnaise ads

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Speaker 1: at the time touted the product as having the highest

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Speaker 1: egg content of the leading brands, who fighting words mayonnaise kingdom,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness around their San Jose digs. The product

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Speaker 1: was quite popular, popular enough that, according to Frank Dors's obituary,

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Speaker 1: the brothers used a fifty dollar infusion from their mayonnaise

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Speaker 1: business to break into the waffle one. Also, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: leave out that the headline of Frank Dors's obituary was

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Speaker 1: he triumphed with waffles, but died without vanquishing the pancake.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a low blow for an obituary, right, Let's

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Speaker 1: this guy also invented a machine that curls bacon. Or no,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a machine that that that when bacon cooks,

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Speaker 1: it prevents it from curling. Oh yeah, that's right. Clearly

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Speaker 1: where is this machine? Can I purchase it? I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can. Um. And an automatic potato peeler he

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Speaker 1: But yes, So this was how Ego Food Products the

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Speaker 1: they had no trouble selling their products near their home base,

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Speaker 1: shipping mayo and fresh waffle batter really limited the reach

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Speaker 1: um and this spurred them to recreate a tinned powder

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Speaker 1: as as a waffle batter exactly. Restaurants looking to turn

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Speaker 1: out waffles more quickly were some of their most profitable customers. Yes,

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Speaker 1: this was not the first powdered waffle mix, however, that

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Speaker 1: distinction goes to Pearl Milling COEs Aunt, Jemima, Pancake and

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Speaker 1: waffle mix all the way back to goodness. Well, that

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Speaker 1: explains the racism in the name. Laurence Giljoy Corner back again,

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Speaker 1: their waffles and mayonnaise. What an interesting product, I mean,

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Speaker 1: to the nineteen fifties. The Americans consumer wanted convenience. They

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure you remember from our frozen food episode.

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Speaker 1: The Dorsto brothers knew that in order to stay afloat,

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Speaker 1: waffles on a large scale. Frank was undeterred by this challenge,

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Speaker 1: they were called froffles frozen waffles. Froffles. They boasted major

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Speaker 1: convenience factors. You put them in the toaster and they

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Speaker 1: and also took a swing at the waffle iron business.

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Speaker 1: And they were very popular on the West Coast because

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much where they were shipping them at the time. UM,

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Speaker 1: the name Froffles did not stick. Um by the Dorses

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Speaker 1: adopted They're already well known Eggo name for their waffles,

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Speaker 1: So that is when Go Waffles were born officially. Officially

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty, they trademarked a mascot named Mr Ego,

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Speaker 1: zero one point three three and I quote grotesque men

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Speaker 1: formed by letters, numbers, punctuation, or geometric shapes, semi colon

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Speaker 1: it's just I mean, it looks sort of like Mr Peanut,

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