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Speaker 1: Welcome on and all to the Hember Territory Podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Sean Coleman. Hope wherever you are and wherever

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Speaker 1: you are listening, that you have had a great week

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Speaker 1: so far. It was an off day for the Braves,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, I hope that they had an

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Speaker 1: enjoyable off day, coming off series winn against the White Sox.

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Speaker 1: Been playing good ball over the past two weeks, some

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Speaker 1: good offensive results here recently as well. A lot of

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Speaker 1: good things happening for the Braves. But even though they

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Speaker 1: didn't play today, there's still plenty and I mean plenty

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Speaker 1: Thursday when it came to the Braves and here to

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Speaker 1: break it all down with me as always is my

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Speaker 1: podcast partner Steven Tolbert Stephen Good talking with you us

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Speaker 1: her Hope all as well on your end.

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Speaker 2: What's up, buddy. Yeah, it was obviously no game on

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Speaker 2: the field today, but it was not a quiet day

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Speaker 2: in Brave's country. There was a lot of almost like

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Speaker 2: the team knew we had a podcast to do tonight.

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Speaker 2: It was like, you know what, we're gonna throw Steven

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Speaker 2: and Sean a bone. We're gonna drop like twenty different

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Speaker 2: bits of news, some of it pretty significant that impacts,

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Speaker 2: you know, could impact this year and next year. You know,

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Speaker 2: some roster moves, like three or four roster moves actually,

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Speaker 2: and then obviously we've got some national stuff happening with

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Speaker 2: all of this expansion talk that we're going to get

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Speaker 2: off day to day, but quite a bit to talk.

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Speaker 1: About, absolutely, And let's get right into it with the

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Speaker 1: biggest news of the day. And I think that it

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Speaker 1: was news that many kind of had prepared vim so for,

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Speaker 1: though it's not the most ideal outcome when it comes

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Speaker 1: to Austin Riley. Let's set the stage here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: If we go back to July ninth, I believe it

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Speaker 1: was July ninth, maybe it was July eleventh against the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: Austin Riley exited a game in Saint Louis. It was

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Speaker 1: the series, right before the All Star break with an

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Speaker 1: abdominal injury. You know, he went through his duration that

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Speaker 1: been on the il once again now for about three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Well this week he tried to ramp up his baseball activity.

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Speaker 1: He still felt some discomfort, went and consulted with the

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Speaker 1: doctor and it wound up being that he needed core

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Speaker 1: muscle surgery. I don't want to speculate too much. Some

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Speaker 1: of alluded to it was to repair a sports tourney

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Speaker 1: of whatever the details are, I'm sure that'll come out

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Speaker 1: in time. But the biggest takeaway is this he did

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Speaker 1: have surgery. He's out for the season and the Braves

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Speaker 1: do expect him back for spring training, so that's at

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Speaker 1: least good news. The thing that stands out is is

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Speaker 1: that this does not seem to really be something that

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Speaker 1: will impact him in terms of health going into the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six season. But that aside Steven, this is

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Speaker 1: impactful because it's just one more disappointing development for Austin Riley,

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Speaker 1: both in terms of performance as well as health. The

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Speaker 1: past two seasons certainly continue to bring up more concern

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Speaker 1: than confidence. When it comes to Austin Riley long term,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a very good shot we're going to

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Speaker 1: see Austin Riley be himself once again. But that's not

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Speaker 1: to say there's not reason to be concerned on multiple

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, obviously core surgery is very vague.

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Speaker 2: It's intentionally vague. You know, obviously everybody connected it to

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Speaker 2: it's not fair, but you know, it's not like so

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Speaker 2: Danzi Swanson had this same surgery last offseason, Mitch Hanneger

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Speaker 2: four off seasons ago. You know, the timeline is always

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Speaker 2: where we are in the calendar, it really doesn't like,

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Speaker 2: you know, anything more than three or four weeks was

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Speaker 2: just how much he was had already missed. And because

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Speaker 2: we're so you know, it's so long until we get

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Speaker 2: it basically just means we're not gonna see Austin in

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Speaker 2: we got about this injury, where like every time Austin

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Speaker 2: and it does kind of just cap a really disappointing

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Speaker 2: have to see what he looks like in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: I have no doubt that he should be one hundred

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Speaker 2: unless something else crops up. It is a little concerning

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Speaker 2: Classic was a really unusual looking play, Like it's not

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Speaker 2: a play that happens a lot. You know, Third Basement

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Speaker 2: I'm not actually sure I've ever seen that play before,

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Speaker 2: like concerning this is long term, but as far as

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Speaker 2: He'll be back one hundred percent by spring training. And

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Speaker 2: you know it's gonna be a big year. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we'll say it all off season, but it is going

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Speaker 2: to be a massive year for Austin Riley again as

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Speaker 2: the the recipient of the biggest con in the history

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Speaker 1: Year, absolutely, and you know, of course we will we

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Speaker 1: won't get too in depth about what to make all

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Speaker 1: of the past two years with Austin Riley, what needs

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Speaker 1: to change to get him back to where he was

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Speaker 1: off season to discuss that. What I think is a

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Speaker 1: bit more pertinent right now, though, is what's going to

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Another thing I wouldn't mind seeing get

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Speaker 1: you know, just different bodies at third base seeing what

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Speaker 1: but the main focus is getting former top prospect Nacho

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all about his bat. I mean, if he

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Speaker 2: we've talked about before about the how important offense it

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Speaker 2: he's gonna have to hit substantially more than he has.

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Speaker 2: So you know, he'll get he'll get run. He'll get

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about plenty about Austin Riley as time

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Speaker 1: goes on. But again, I want to hit on this

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Speaker 1: guess you could say, but there's not a bigger development.

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Speaker 1: I feel for the Braves to get back to me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can make the argument the single

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Speaker 2: biggest number for the Braves offense, or for any one

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Speaker 2: player on the Braves offense, is Austin Riley's slugging percentage. Yep,

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Speaker 2: Like he's a slug first guy. He's never been an

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Speaker 2: we've watched his slugging percentage literally the last four years.

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Speaker 2: honestly look at one number, I mean you could you

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Speaker 2: the gap. That is the key to Austin Riley, and

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and the big thing is is that nobody knows

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Speaker 1: So Stephen, Obviously we talked about Austin Riley, but that

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Speaker 2: chairs a little bit. Luke Williams. You know, everybody made

431
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Speaker 2: the joke today that you know, the greatest pitching keeps

432
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Speaker 2: getting hurt in Luke Williams is the latest example of

433
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Speaker 2: the pitching getting hurt. So, you know, a Strando bleak,

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Speaker 2: you know. The only the only surprising part was it

435
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Speaker 2: wasn't a sixty day il trip, I guess. But you know,

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Speaker 2: now that they have Quantrill, I'm guessing Quantrill is probably

437
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Speaker 2: gonna we know, he's going in the rotation. They did

438
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Speaker 2: add Dylan Dodd back, so they'll have some they'll have

439
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Speaker 2: some blowout relief, you know, if they need it. But

440
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Speaker 2: I think pretty clearly Jake Freeley is the most interesting

441
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Speaker 2: name among all the moves today.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and on a non injury front, at least in

443
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Speaker 1: terms of, you know, an injury update for this season.

444
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Speaker 1: There was another revelation when it came to Rinaldo Lopez. Now,

445
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Speaker 1: of course low piz throughout league five innings in one

446
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Speaker 1: start this year and then unfortunately went under a procedure

447
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Speaker 1: when it came to his throwing shoulder, and he's going

448
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Speaker 1: to be out for the rest of the year. So

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a lost season Fordo Lopez, but Mark

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Speaker 1: morbleto VMLB dot Com talk about the fact that Ronaldo

451
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Speaker 1: Lopez has made it clear he has no intention of

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Speaker 1: potentially going into the bullpen next season. His full focus

453
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Speaker 1: is going to be on being in the rotation, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's great. Now, that's awesome that's his focus.

455
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Speaker 1: And with the Braves being on the hook for about

456
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Speaker 1: fifteen million for him next year, that would be the

457
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Speaker 1: most valuable outcome when it comes to Ronaldo Lopez. But

458
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Speaker 1: the only thing that kind of strikes me is is

459
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Speaker 1: that Steven will let you elaborate on this a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm perfectly fine with him going after a rotation spot

461
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Speaker 1: because he was highly effective last year, but I would

462
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Speaker 1: much rather have him healthy as a member of this

463
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Speaker 1: staff as a whole than someone who potentially once again

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Speaker 1: is an injury rick risk next year in the rotation.

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Speaker 1: So I get his mentality. I understand where he's coming from,

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Speaker 1: But if I was him, I also would would definitely

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Speaker 1: keep open the idea being a part of the bullpen

468
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Speaker 1: because he could be a good arm in the bullpen

469
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Speaker 1: as well. But more than anything, just need for him

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Speaker 1: to be healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, when you miss an entire season with a

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Speaker 2: shoulder problem, and that's I mean. I know he pitched

473
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Speaker 2: in the first week of the season, but Ronaldo effectively

474
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Speaker 2: missed the entire season with his shoulder problem. And you

475
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Speaker 2: know when that happens, you gotta get healthy before we

476
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Speaker 2: ever start worrying about what your role is gonna be.

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Speaker 2: And listen, they did pay him like they owe him.

478
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Speaker 2: I think they owe him. I have to go back

479
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Speaker 2: and look, I think they owe him like thirty forty

480
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Speaker 2: million dollars something like that. The rest of his contract.

481
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Speaker 2: They paid him like a starting pitcher. And I'm sure

482
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Speaker 2: they're gonna want to put him in the rotation to

483
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Speaker 2: try to extract as much value out of him. But

484
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Speaker 2: when you miss an entire season with shoulder problems, what

485
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Speaker 2: your role is gonna be in twenty twenty six, that

486
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Speaker 2: question is a distant second to just are you gonna

487
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Speaker 2: be around and contributing some way in twenty twenty six?

488
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Speaker 2: And so, like, I know, this is gonna be a

489
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Speaker 2: thing where people talk about, you know, they've got so

490
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Speaker 2: many arms in the rotation, does one of them go

491
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Speaker 2: to the bullpen? That never, that never matters. There's always

492
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Speaker 2: always injuries, there's always some sort of you know, you

493
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Speaker 2: just need so much depth in the rotation. I'm fine

494
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Speaker 2: if he starts. He was really good last year when

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Speaker 2: he was healthy. But until he gets healthy and on

496
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Speaker 2: the mound, I don't I'm not gonna spend a lot

497
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Speaker 2: of energy caring about debating what his role should or

498
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Speaker 2: is going to be, because that's kind of putting the

499
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Speaker 2: you know, not to put too fine a point of it,

500
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Speaker 2: but that's kind of putting the bullpen cart ahead of

501
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Speaker 2: the horse. We got to get the guy healthy, and

502
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Speaker 2: so you know, that's where he's got to be. That's again,

503
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Speaker 2: it's a shoulder. It's terrifying, it's terrifying. Gotta get him healthy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I wanted to have that mental I

505
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Speaker 1: want his focus to be on the rule.

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Speaker 2: I have no problem with what he said.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely not, but definitely, you know, be

508
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Speaker 1: open whatever can keep him healthy to the point that

509
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Speaker 1: he because again, a healthy Ronaldo Lopez, I think, is

510
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Speaker 1: a trustworthy arm that can work through an opposing playoff

511
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Speaker 1: lineup in the playoffs. That's what the Braves need. That

512
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Speaker 1: is something that they have sorely lacked since the twenty

513
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Speaker 1: one World series is depth of options on the pitching side.

514
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Speaker 1: Another biggest issue in the playoffs has been the offense,

515
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Speaker 1: but it's also been the depth of options on the

516
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Speaker 1: pitching side that could legitimately go through an opposing playoff

517
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Speaker 1: lineup confidently at least one time through. And I have

518
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Speaker 1: to mention multiple times, Drue, they need as many of

519
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Speaker 1: those options healthy for future playoff runs. Ronaldo Lopez can

520
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Speaker 1: be that, So I'm all for what keeps him healthy

521
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Speaker 1: for potentially being in that spot. But we're talking about

522
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Speaker 1: the Braves, and we're talking about the future and what

523
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Speaker 1: that could look like for Atlanta, But what about Major

524
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: League Baseball as a whole. Commissioner Rob Manfred had some

525
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Speaker 1: interesting thoughts and comments when it comes to the future

526
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Speaker 1: outlook of the future outlook of the majors as a whole.

527
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Speaker 1: Recently during the Little League Bait or MLB game, I

528
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Speaker 1: believe it was between the Mariners and the Astros. Steven

529
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Speaker 1: and I are actually going to expand our thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the idea of expansion right after this word from our partners.

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Speaker 4: Okay Kratz, I opened up Arena Club, put my own

532
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Speaker 4: money in there, and I wasn't gonna go big.

533
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Speaker 1: I know we went over the Ruby pack a week ago.

534
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Speaker 4: This time I just went for the low level pack

535
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Speaker 4: where it's an easy entry point twenty five bucks. You

536
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Speaker 4: can get yourself a big Boy card. The Grail has

537
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Speaker 4: many good options. I slice open the pack. We're looking

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Speaker 4: at it if you're watching us right now, and I

539
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Speaker 4: pull a card from.

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Speaker 1: The nineteen fifties. Super cool. I enjoyed the experience looking

541
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Speaker 1: at it. It's Jim Gilliam. It's the top set from

542
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Speaker 1: the mid fifties. It's cool. It's a Brooklyn Dodger.

543
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Speaker 4: But it's worth more than the card.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm going to sell it back.

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Speaker 4: They got twenty eight bucks instantly, so I can buy

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Speaker 4: another one of those packs and try and get what

547
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Speaker 4: I want.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely the excitement I heard Kip say it before. The

549
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Speaker 5: excitement's in the chase. You sold it back, Now you

550
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Speaker 5: get to open another one. I enjoy when you slide

551
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Speaker 5: it across the screen there and the pack opens.

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Speaker 1: You know where to go.

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Speaker 4: Arenaclub dot com slash foul twenty percent off your first

554
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Speaker 4: lab packer card for it.

555
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Speaker 1: Just get after it. Steven, as we were watching the

556
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Speaker 1: latest word from our partners and I was looking at

557
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Speaker 1: a highlight of Boston bread Sox outfill with Roman Anthony,

558
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: who just seems like an absolute stud. He hit a

559
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Speaker 1: ball a mile, you know, in his first game in

560
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Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. But I bring that up because I know

561
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: many and Braves country aren't just fan of the Braves

562
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: and their rivalries, they're fans of Major League Baseball as well.

563
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Speaker 1: And it's so much fun seeing Drake Baldwin and what

564
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Speaker 1: the impact he's making as a Brave. We obviously know

565
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Speaker 1: what the future could look like with Ronald mcconey junior,

566
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Speaker 1: but seeing the rookies that are in the American League,

567
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: there's a lot of fun when it comes to the

568
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Speaker 1: product of Major League Baseball moving forward, and for that reason,

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Speaker 1: the idea of expansion makes things even more exciting the

570
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Speaker 1: game going into new mark markets, even more talent coming

571
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Speaker 1: into the fold. When it comes to the league, the

572
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Speaker 1: idea of expansion is always one that's fun to speculate about,

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Speaker 1: and Rob Manford seemed to do more than speculate. He

574
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Speaker 1: seemed to basically put it out there. This is certainly

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Speaker 1: something in the near future we're going to see become

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Speaker 1: more and more of a likelihood. But the reason I

577
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Speaker 1: want to bring it up here is because the one

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Speaker 1: team in Major League Baseball that could potentially be impacted

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Speaker 1: the most by the idea of expansion is the Brave Steven.

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Speaker 1: You want to elaborate a little bit more of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So expansion is coming, Like it's not even it's

582
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Speaker 2: not even an if, it's just a win. When do

583
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Speaker 2: they get on You know, it's a whole process. You

584
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Speaker 2: got to you know, two cities have to win the

585
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: bid and stadium contract and all this stuff. It is

586
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Speaker 2: a process. But expansion is coming. The MOB has made

587
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Speaker 2: it very clear over the years they want to get

588
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Speaker 2: to thirty two teams and you know, they want to

589
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Speaker 2: kind of move more to a eight division, four teams

590
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Speaker 2: per division format again like the NFL. So division has

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Speaker 2: come or excuse me, expansion is coming. What's going to

592
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Speaker 2: be interesting is when it comes a where do these

593
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Speaker 2: new teams go? You know, the the general consensus has

594
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Speaker 2: been forever that they're going to put another team in

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Speaker 2: the Southeast, and they're going to put another team in

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Speaker 2: the Northwest. And you know, it's very easy to just

597
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Speaker 2: say Portland, you know, Portland and Charlotte or Salt Lake

598
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Speaker 2: City in Nashville or something like that. But that's what

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Speaker 2: I think is going to end up being. The reason

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Speaker 2: it's so impactful for the Braves is because they have

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Speaker 2: operated for decades, decades as the only team in the

602
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Speaker 2: Southeastern footprint of the United States. And I don't really

603
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Speaker 2: know how they've managed to pull that off. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how they've thwarted off any sort of other team

605
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Speaker 2: from coming literally anywhere else in the footprint, but they have.

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Speaker 2: And it actually doesn't make any sense that there's only

607
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Speaker 2: one team in the Southeast. There needs to be too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's such a massive region of the country.

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Speaker 2: There's millions and millions and millions and millions of people

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Speaker 2: that live here by far, far and away, I mean

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Speaker 2: easily can support more than one team. So the fact

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Speaker 2: that another team is probably coming to the Southeast, that

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Speaker 2: is going to cut into the Braves market. Now, typically

614
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Speaker 2: teams do get compensated for that, Like obviously when there's

615
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Speaker 2: talk of expansion and you know, markets get impacted. You know,

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Speaker 2: teams push back and they ask for concessions and all

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Speaker 2: that's part of the negotiation. But one hundred percent of

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Speaker 2: the Brads are going to be impacted by this because

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Speaker 2: there's going to be another team. You know, right now,

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Speaker 2: the closest team to the Braves is the Cincinnati Reds

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Speaker 2: by Miles, which is crazy at Cincinnati's in Ohio, and

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Speaker 2: that's the closest team to the Atlanta Braves in terms

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Speaker 2: of like, you know, distance, that's gonna change. There's gonna

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Speaker 2: be a team in Nashville, There's gonna be a team

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Speaker 2: in charlot There's gonna be a team somewhere in the

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Speaker 2: Southeastern footprint. And the interesting thing is gonna be when

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Speaker 2: that happens, when they add these two teams, how do

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Speaker 2: they then configure the divisions? And this is what everybody

629
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Speaker 2: wants to talk about, right every time you see a podcast.

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Speaker 2: They've got the map up, they got all the teams,

631
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Speaker 2: you know, they got the logos, they're drawing circles. You know,

632
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 2: these four teams could be together in these four teams.

633
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Speaker 2: And then once you have the teams, you have to

634
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Speaker 2: configure the leagues. Who's gonna be in the National League,

635
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: who's gonna be in the American League, how's it gonna play.

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Speaker 2: There's endless possibilities. There's some very clear geographical, you know,

637
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Speaker 2: ideas in terms of like the Braves being with the

638
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: new expansion team, plus being with the Marlins and the Raids.

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Speaker 2: You know, just geographically that makes sense the Brave, I mean,

640
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: obviously Brais fans would absolutely the Braves would run that

641
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: division like it's I mean, like it's a high school division.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Rays go up and down, but the Marlins.

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Speaker 2: You know, no one's worried about the Marlins. It usually

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Speaker 2: takes these expansion teams years to get off the ground,

645
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: so Brace fans would love that. You know, there's talk of,

646
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 2: like in the Northeastern corner, putting the Yankees and the

647
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: Mets and like the Red Sox and Phillies. I don't

648
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: know if you could put those like massive organizations all

649
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: in one division. But that's what I'm talking about, Like,

650
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: there's so many variations of this stuff, and that's where

651
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna get interesting. And that's where a lot of

652
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: the conversation has happened the last you know, a week

653
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 2: since Manford said all this is everybody's you know, playing

654
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 2: around with the map trying to draw these divisions. So

655
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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have an opinion on these divisions,

656
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 2: but that's where the conversation gets interesting.

657
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely, and I don't think. I don't see Major League

658
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: Baseball have the divisions like that. What I mean by

659
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 1: that is is that I think that they would see

660
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: too much of an opportunity to where you would be

661
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: too top heavy in one division where it would be

662
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: the two New York teams Boston and Philly, or even

663
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: if it's Toronto who's in a big market as well.

664
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Speaker 1: Now that would be a very top heavy division. And

665
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: then you have the Southeastern Division where it's one of

666
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: your marque organizations in the Braves, and then three others

667
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, who are not marquee. For lack of a

668
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: better way of putting it, I don't necessarily think that

669
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball would find benefit in that. So while

670
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: it would be great in terms of future outlet for

671
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: the Braves, I'm just not too confident that would happen.

672
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Speaker 2: And yeah, I do want to point out the reason

673
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: people are doing that is because Manford specifically said it

674
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: would give us the ability to realign geographically. He actually

675
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: used the word geographic in his quote, and so obviously

676
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: what everybody has done is go to a map and

677
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 2: just circle all the teams that are as close to

678
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Speaker 2: get as possible that's where all that's come from.

679
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And while I think Baseball would want that ideally

680
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: to work out, I don't necessarily know if strategically for

681
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: the best of the sport, for the competitive strategy of

682
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: the sport, it would make the most sense, and I

683
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: think that that at the end of the day, would

684
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: win out. The other thing that I'll say is this

685
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: is that you know, Charlotte or Nashville, if one of

686
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: them got a team, I think the city bases there

687
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: of Charlotte and Nashville could support a major league organization.

688
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: But I also don't think that it would be something

689
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: that would just absolutely be a big threat to what

690
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: the Braves have in the South. I think if you

691
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: had a Nashville or a Charlotte, their fan base outlook

692
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: would be more like what you have with Cincinnati. It

693
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: would be that local region. Now, speaking as being someone

694
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: who's been born and raised in Tennessee, West Tennessee has

695
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: been Cardinals country for so many years. In Central and

696
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: East Tennessee has been Braves country. That's the thing about

697
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: it is that if you put it for ends to Nashville,

698
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: you're getting close to an area of the country where

699
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: you've got the Cubs that are in the upper Midwest,

700
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Speaker 1: You've got the Saint Louis Cardinals that are in the

701
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: central and southern Midwest, and you've got the Braves in

702
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: the South. So yes, there is room for another team,

703
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: and I think that Nashville could support that, you know,

704
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: a franchise for instance, But I don't think overall the

705
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: impact would take away from what the Braves have. You know,

706
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: and what we're talking about, moral Madian is what we've

707
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: all been discussing, the financial outlook for this team. Will

708
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: it stay as beneficial as it's been. I think even

709
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: if an expansion team lands in Charlotte or Nashville, that

710
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: would be just fine. But I'm here for expansion. Bring

711
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: more teams into the fold. That means more talent is

712
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: going to be in place, and that also means that

713
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: you're going to see the opportunity for more rivalries to

714
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: develop as well. So I'm here for it. I think

715
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 1: it would be a lot of fun. But I also

716
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: think that when we get closer to or get to

717
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: the final product, it likely is going to be significantly

718
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: different that what people were speculating on at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I mean where they end up putting

720
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 2: these two teams is gonna matter. Like everyone is assuming

721
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 2: a Southeastern team and a Northwestern team, but it's not

722
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: necessarily locked in stone that that's what's gonna happen. Just

723
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: makes the most logical sense. I'm fine with expansion. I

724
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: like I think it's a fun idea. You know, the

725
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: whole expansion draft, where you know, these two teams kind

726
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: of get to draft players from all the other teams

727
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: would be a fascinating thing to cover in like real time.

728
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: You know which players is your team gonna protect, you

729
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: know which players is your team gonna leave open to

730
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 2: this expansion draft. That would be a fascinating bit of

731
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 2: content just to cover. I think the last expansion draft

732
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: we had was when the diamond But was it when

733
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks came? Uh, Sean, you're better with the history

734
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Speaker 2: stuff than I am.

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Speaker 1: Was it the raising Diamondbacks? I think that was it.

736
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Speaker 1: I can't remember if there was an expansion draft. That

737
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: was the last time that you had two teams. You

738
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: had the Rockies and Marlins and ninety three and then

739
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks and the Rays and in ninety eight I

740
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: believe it was the Backs and the Race yet But

741
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Speaker 1: that would have been the last time if it happened.

742
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Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly what the details of the expansion

743
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: draft look like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would be I mean, just just to

745
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 2: have an expansion draft in like the modern era, you know,

746
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: the social media era of teams protecting players or not

747
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 2: protecting players. My god, the takes and the content would

748
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: just be absolutely flying. So it'd be entertaining. The thing

749
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Speaker 2: I hate that I know is going to happen is

750
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 2: that it's going to be any sort of expansion in

751
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: realignment is also going to be wed with expanded playoffs.

752
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: MLB is just trying to keep you know, they're trying

753
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 2: to add as many playoff teams as possible because it

754
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: makes them a ton of money. And listen, this a

755
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: lot of this is about money. It's about expanding TV reach.

756
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: There's a reason Scott and I talked about this. There's

757
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: a reason all of these TV deals that MLB is negotiating,

758
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 2: there's a reason all of this is coming out now,

759
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: Like all of this is connected. They're trying to get

760
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: more and more money into their pockets, and the easiest

761
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 2: way for owners to do that is more playoff teams.

762
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 2: Because more playoff teams. Equals more races, and equals closer

763
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: races down the stretch. It equals more playoff games. Networks

764
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 2: love playing paying for playoff games because they do massive ratings.

765
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: You know, advertisers love advertising playoff games because they do

766
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: massive ratings. It's just more money. So I know expanded

767
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,479
Speaker 2: playoffs is going to be a part of this which

768
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 2: I can't stand. But every other part of expansion I'm

769
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: actually pretty excited about. I will say this, I do

770
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: hope MLB. I hope they respect some of the history

771
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: of the game. You know, there are teams like the

772
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Braves and the Reds and the Phillies. These teams have

773
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 2: been in the National League for so long. Like I

774
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: it would kind of piss me off, honestly if they

775
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: were like, all right, you're in the American League now,

776
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: like all of that history just kind of, I don't know,

777
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: swept under the rug. You know, some you know, there's

778
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: obvious gonna have to be some changes, and changes aren't

779
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 2: necessarily bad. I just hope as they do it, they

780
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: do it with more of a scalpel than like a machete.

781
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: You know, let's have some let's have some grace with

782
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: how we do this and be tactful about it and

783
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: respect some of the history of this game that you

784
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: know has been around for one hundred and fifty years.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And that's the thing about it is that you know,

786
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: I know that sixteen teams make the playoffs in the NBA,

787
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: and I know that the fourteen teams make the playoffs

788
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, right now we're up to

789
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: twelve teams in Major League Baseball. I know that they

790
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: want to expand on that, but twelve seems like it

791
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: it's enough. But you know, obviously that's not going to

792
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: be the case as we move forward. So it's really

793
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see, you know, how this developed.

794
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: I know we're years away even from, you know, multiple

795
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: years await even from having an idea of where these

796
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,720
Speaker 1: teams are going to be, But if you're in Braves Country,

797
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: it certainly is a storyline to you know, put a

798
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: pin on, because wherever they wind up, the team winds

799
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: up in the Southeast for multiple reasons, it could impact

800
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: the future of the Braves in terms of their path

801
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: not only to the playoffs, but just to success in

802
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: general moving forward. Steven, anything else from you as we

803
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Speaker 1: wrap up this edition of the Hammer Territory podcast.

804
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Speaker 2: No Back on the Field tomorrow, start a series of

805
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: the Mets. Joey Wentz on the mound. The Mets have

806
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: one of their kind of prize young rookies, MacLean McLean

807
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 2: something like that. I don't know exactly how to pronounce

808
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: his name, but he's on the mound for the Mets.

809
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: Spencer Strider got pushed back. He's not going to pitch

810
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: in this series. Where we are going to see cal

811
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: Quantrill pitching this series, so you know, we'll see what happens.

812
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that Cal Quantrill doesn't give the

813
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: Braves a better chance to win right now than Spencer Strider.

814
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: As crazy as that sounds, but go beat the Mets. Like,

815
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: the Mets just lost a series to the Nationals, which

816
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 2: is hilarious. I was watching that game all day. They

817
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: actually got dropped by the Nationals. They lost like nine

818
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: to three. Let's continue the misery for the Mets. Go

819
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: win two out of three. You know, maybe the Reds

820
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: can steal that playoff spot and the Mets can miss

821
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs. That'd be entertaining as hell. But yeah, thanks

822
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: for all the support as always, guys.

823
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, if they want to play spoiler, let's play spoiler,

824
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: and let's play the heck out of it now. Obviously,

825
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: one of the other development to watch is Chris Sale

826
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: will be on the Mound in Columbus over the weekend,

827
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: as will make sure to check out his start. Obviously,

828
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: a successful start likely means that his next start would

829
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: be with the Braves. So you know, hey again, I

830
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 1: know this has been a season that nobody really anticipated

831
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: in a negative way, but at least right now we

832
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: have more positives than probably many anticipated to talk about

833
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: this time of year. Let's keep that ball rolling. And hey,

834
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: if you can sit here and contribute to the Mets

835
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: missing the playoffs as Steven mentioned, I'd be all for that.

836
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Speaker 1: Until next time, Go Braves. You can find Steven Tilbert

837
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: at be Underscore Outliers on Twitter, myself at stats Sac

838
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: on Twitter, slash checks, Foul Territory, Achieve Me Hammer Territory

839
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: across all forms of social media, part of the Foul

840
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: Territory family of podcasts. Until next time, Go Braves. We'll

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