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Speaker 1: Alright. So it is the month of New Beginnings on

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Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge, and we've done a lot of different topics.

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Speaker 1: High Chip. By the way, could you guys both turn

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Speaker 1: your volume up a little bit because I want the

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Speaker 1: people to be able to hear you as much as

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Speaker 1: they hear me. Um. So it's the month of new beginnings,

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Speaker 1: and Chip and I have also told you guys, we're

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Speaker 1: going to start interviewing people. This is our first interview together.

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Speaker 1: I feel a little nervous. Yeah, breaking the cherry. That's

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Speaker 1: actually called popping. This is this is when you know

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Speaker 1: you're a gay man the cherry. So yes, we're popping

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Speaker 1: Chips interview Jerry. So glad I can be the one

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Speaker 1: to do that with you and we have a really

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Speaker 1: special guest. I'm so excited about this. When I think

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Speaker 1: about January, I always think about setting up my life

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Speaker 1: to give me the best start for the year. And

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Speaker 1: one of the things I really struggle with in my

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Speaker 1: life is being organized. Like I'm not I'm a creative

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Speaker 1: when it comes to like details. A lot of times

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Speaker 1: like that is not my strong suit. However, when I

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Speaker 1: and I have both of those working together. So we

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Speaker 1: wanted to bring in someone to help us with this

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Speaker 1: and get a really good fresh start in a new

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Speaker 1: beginning to the year of two after the chaos of

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Speaker 1: all the insanity we've dealt with the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So Ria Stafford is here. She is the founder of Reorganized,

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Speaker 1: which is an organization company that will get into and

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Speaker 1: I want to hear all the details about that. Hi, Rhea,

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Speaker 1: let's say you guys, Okay, I didn't realize this was

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Speaker 1: like our first threesome. I like the way that you

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Speaker 1: put that. Yeah, first three time with two women. Oh wow,

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Speaker 1: that is too good. Oh my gosh, you guys. I

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Speaker 1: am so excited to be here, truly, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: was so excited to have you and yes, this is

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Speaker 1: I like the quick edit there. Yeah, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: I know Chips story, you know, so I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: that's more to the sex and dating version of the Edge.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we'll have you back, please do So. I

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Speaker 1: loved your story when your rep reached out to me.

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Speaker 1: There was such an interesting thing that caught me in

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Speaker 1: the initial email, and she was like, yeah, RHA's story

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Speaker 1: is really cool because she was ten days out of

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Speaker 1: having this baby and Jen Atkin, the celebrity hairstyle is

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Speaker 1: very true story and literally one of my favorites. Um please,

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Speaker 1: this was a couple yeah, yeah, so this was a

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Speaker 1: What I would say is a bet on yourself and

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Speaker 1: that reach out they're so ready to take this step

429
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 1: that they're wanting to learn as much as they can,

430
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 1: they're wanting to maintain it. Um I there's always going

431
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 1: to be a need for us, because if it's not

432
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: to go back and do someone's pantry again, it's gonna

433
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,239
Speaker 1: be for whatever the next season brings, it's gonna be

434
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, our additional projects with clients are going

435
00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: to be new spaces or just new seasons in their life.

436
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: You know, eventually all the kid jumpers and barbies go

437
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,160
Speaker 1: away and it's soccer cleats and nerf guns and you know,

438
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: it's there's always this evolution of your home and in

439
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: your routines and in your your habits and the thing

440
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: your hobbies. I mean, everything just changes all the time.

441
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: And so I feel like we're kind of those people

442
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 1: that can be with you all along the way. But

443
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: it isn't necessary that we have to go in and

444
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: keep refreshing the same spaces. But some clients are like,

445
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, absolutely, Like basically we want you guys

446
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: like a housekeeper. Once you do the whole big shipping,

447
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: keep coming, which I'm all for too, because some people

448
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: just want everything like so or you know, we have clients,

449
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: you know who have a staff who are maintaining their spaces,

450
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 1: which that's always an interesting thing because we want to

451
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: do something that makes sense for the people maintaining it,

452
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,119
Speaker 1: but we wanted to be liked by the people who

453
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: are paying for it, and you're just kind of navigating

454
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: different people. Um. But we do like teaching the staff

455
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: how we're folding things, where we're putting things away, asking

456
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: them what their routines are, because we just we want

457
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 1: the home to move smoothly and at the end of

458
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: the day, you should just have this routine ready home

459
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: that whatever you're doing, there's not even a thought of like,

460
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, like this draw driving nets at breaking cabinet,

461
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: like we all have that, like those spaces that you're

462
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, I'll get to it, but

463
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: I didn't want to say about your closet. Is Also

464
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: there's a difference between going in and like tidying things up,

465
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 1: like putting everything back exactly how you had it, but

466
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: getting everything, you know, with its category and feeling really

467
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: good and then doing a full assessment of like okay,

468
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: wait is where I put everything to begin with, even correct,

469
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: why am I not maintaining? So when we go in,

470
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:43,960
Speaker 1: we're not just like, oh my gosh, okay, like we

471
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: just want this all to look really nice. We're just

472
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna switch out hangars and we're going to keep things

473
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: where you had it, Like we're really going in and

474
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: reassessing everything. Perfect example is a couple of weeks ago,

475
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: we're on a project. We're in the closet. It's a

476
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: really big closet, but it was just feel and kind

477
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: of crazy, and there were these two really high shelves

478
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 1: stacked with denim, like so much denim, And I'm like,

479
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: how is this working out for you? And she's like,

480
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: I honestly don't love it. And I'm like, how do

481
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: you feel about holded jeans versus hanging? She's like, oh

482
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: my gosh, I would I would love hanging. I feel

483
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 1: like that'd be so much easier. I was like, I

484
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 1: don't know how you're grabbing all these It's just this

485
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,080
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's working. And so we literally eliminated

486
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: those shelves and added three hanging rods and hung all

487
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: of them, and that like that change was so major,

488
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: not only visually because it's it's a lot harder for

489
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: it to feel out of sorts when everything is hung

490
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: versus having to fold something exactly. But we really asked

491
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: the question of is this even something that's working for

492
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: you or can it completely be changed? That is such

493
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: a good tip in and of itself, just to look

494
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: in your rooms, I mean, the closets the perfect example.

495
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: A pantry is probably also another good one, Like I

496
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: feel like are my refrigerator can get really out of whack?

497
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: But asking myself like what is the thing that I'm

498
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: struggling so much to maintain? And why isn't that working?

499
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: Like kind of the wise behind it like we do

500
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: with everything else in our life. I mean, but it's

501
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: just applying it to actual organization, which I've never even

502
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: thought of. It's mostly for me about does this look

503
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 1: good in the moment, and like Chips said, go clean it,

504
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: go get it set up, but you can't maintain it.

505
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: And it's there's certain things like there are going to

506
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: be little habits you have to keep doing over and

507
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: over and over and to become just part of your

508
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: regular routine. Um, because that's always something we have to share.

509
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: Two we've definitely had the clients before that are like,

510
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: I don't get it, Like it doesn't look like how

511
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: you guys did anymore. You have to do your part

512
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: in it too. Like once we do it, berries aren't

513
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: just putting everything back and keeping everything straight and making

514
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: it look perfect. Now it's we've created the foundation, the blueprint.

515
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: You know, we even did the first set up, but

516
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: it's going to be your job to maintain that. I

517
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: totally lost my train of thought. Where was going. We

518
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 1: were talking about just the maintaining and making sure it's

519
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: the little habits and so something like one of my

520
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: biggest problems is I I moved so quickly all the

521
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: time period to where if I try something on I

522
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: don't like it, I'm not hanging it right back up

523
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: because you might go back to it. This is like

524
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: when I'm trying on clothes, I'm like, oh, I could

525
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 1: maybe do that outfit, but probably not, but I'm gonna

526
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: throw it on the ground instead of hanging out. I

527
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: wish I had that excuse, Like I know, and so

528
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: even here, I'm a professional organizer. We last year alone

529
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty different projects, Like I mean, this

530
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: is all all I do and I'm still needing to

531
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: prioritize organization in my own regularly. It's like the last

532
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: thing you want to do when you get home is

533
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: organized your own chef. Yeah, it's like the shoemaker's kids

534
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: have no shoes, right, the girl who does makeup who

535
00:27:54,200 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: never wears makeup. That's so funny, but honestly, um well,

536
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: I love that tip. And then I was gonna ask

537
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: you because I know Chips said when whenever I told

538
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: him we were gonna be talking to you, he was

539
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: like started to look at his house and he just

540
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: came in with all of a sudden, he was like,

541
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,959
Speaker 1: oh my god, I have so many questions. And so

542
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: for people like us who maybe or just people listening

543
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: who can't afford a service like yours, but there is

544
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: they're but they're looking to maybe get a start. Is

545
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 1: there one thing other than looking at the systems like

546
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: you were just talking about that you would tell people

547
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: as a place to start, Like, is there something you

548
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: could name for us? Because I know one of the

549
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: things that keeps me from ever even going into organization

550
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: is the overwhelmed feeling of not knowing where to start.

551
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna give a two partner, because I

552
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: always think the first thing that is so necessary. Okayle's

553
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: a three partner, Okay. Um, First, you have to be

554
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: in the mindset, you have to want to do it.

555
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: You have to be like, this is something I want

556
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: to tackle, this is a thing I want to take on.

557
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: And you have to know kind of what capacity you're

558
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: able to do that because if you if you overload

559
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: your plate, you're gonna get overwhelmed and you're gonna bail. Um.

560
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: And that kind of goes hand in hand with the

561
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: second part, which is allowed, like giving yourself the appropriate

562
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: amount of time, okay, because I can't tell like you know,

563
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: oh I have an hour, you know, in between picking

564
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: up kids or whatever. Let me go reorganize my closet.

565
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: You're dumping stuff, You've got piles, but then you've got

566
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: to stop, and then everything just goes right back in.

567
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: It's just this band aid you keep ripping off and

568
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: putting back on. You're not giving it the proper amount

569
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: of time to even do anything. But I would say

570
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: before spending any money on anything, which you really shouldn't

571
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 1: do to well into the process. Um, as far as

572
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: like product and everything, you need to know what you have,

573
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: so our approach is really it's less about what we're

574
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: making clients get rid of or encouraging them to get

575
00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: rid of. Weren't encouraging them to be reintroduced to their items,

576
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: to be reintroduced to the things that they bought and

577
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: collected and kept over the years. Why do you have it?

578
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: Do you still want it? Do you love it? Do

579
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: you want to see it? Do you use it? Figuring

580
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: out just what everything is, because I think the number

581
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: one thing is people are like, I have no clue

582
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: what the hell is that hallway closet? Let you can

583
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: tell you one of those bins up there, And I

584
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: think just knowing your inventory to begin with is major.

585
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: And being able to edit the things that you no

586
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: longer want, need, love use. What have you just removing

587
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: those items from your space? Well one make you just

588
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: feel like a weight has been lifted. Two give you

589
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: so much encouragement and just give you so much momentum

590
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: to keep things going because I it's like, Okay, now

591
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: I know everything in here. I love prioritizing off of

592
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: this is a really long answer to your question. You're

593
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 1: like one thing, I'm like, here's the whole Okay, I'm

594
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 1: like taking notes though literally this is so I know

595
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: how freak and stressful it is, but I feel like

596
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: it's been so like overcomplicated for right and it doesn't

597
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: have to be you just like just those little things

598
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: of being in the right mindset, giving yourself the right

599
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: amount of time and knowing your inventory before you're figuring

600
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: out systems where things are placed and all of that,

601
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: which even that you're placing based on priority, things you

602
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: use often things you need are the most accessible, and

603
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: you work your way outward. It's easy to think about

604
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: it sense. It makes so much sense and it sounds

605
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: so simple, but it's something that I wouldn't have thought

606
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: of my own. Like I can't tell you how many

607
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: times I've bought something and then remembered I actual already

608
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: have that because of exactly what you're saying, Like, I

609
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: just I'm so unaware of the ship that's floating around

610
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: my house because it's not it's buried somewhere and I

611
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 1: forgot to have it. And it's amazing what just knowing

612
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: what you have exactly. Yeah, I'm a record collector and

613
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes I'll be in a record store and

614
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I should buy this and I'm like, wait,

615
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: do I have this record? Like so? Um. I mean

616
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: I think to me like there's a lot of shame

617
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: in being messy, because I feel like the general populace

618
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: would say that, like it's inherently bad to be messy,

619
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: but I don't. I mean, I think it's bad to

620
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: be dirty, like you said, you're messy and dirty. Um.

621
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: And and you know it's from some of the research

622
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: that I did, like the messiness is um is equated

623
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: to creativity a lot. I wonderful. I thought that I

624
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: found a really interesting quote because Einstein famously out a

625
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: messy desk and he said, if if if a I've wrote,

626
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: oh if I even wrote it down messy Um. Basically

627
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: what a cluttered If a cluttered desk is a sign

628
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: of a cluttered mind of what then is an empty

629
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: desk assign which is really interesting because he was like, oh,

630
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: Mike drop. So I look around my really office and

631
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe I'm Einstein honestly readers, it's just going.

632
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think a lot of it

633
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: is like a lot of people don't want to admit

634
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: that they're messy because there's some shame in it. So

635
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: how do we how do people get past like they're like, Okay,

636
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: this is not just my problem, and maybe it is.

637
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: It's like maybe you overconsume, maybe you're just a comcrastinator,

638
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: or maybe you're all these other things that cause you

639
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: to be messy and you're not a mess and you

640
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: have to tell you that. I think there's even a

641
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: difference in what kind of messy someone is, because the

642
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: messy I was is a like an organized messy. Like

643
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of messy people would be like, oh, yeah,

644
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: I know where that hair tie is totally. It's like

645
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: you just you know where things are. And I think

646
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: that there's there's an organized chaos, which is kind of

647
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: just always been me like just kind of all over

648
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: the place, but it's kind of when there's no rhyme

649
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: or reason to it that it's taken a new meaning.

650
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,919
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's the difference. Like I feel

651
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: like if you were to walk into your space and

652
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: just be like, I don't even recognize what's happening here,

653
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: I've I've fully lost all control, that's something to really

654
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: evaluate further, versus just like oh my god, like I've

655
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: had this like pile of this pile of this, pile

656
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: of this, but you know what everything is, and you know,

657
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: you just kind of keep sliding it around like that's

658
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: different in my eyes. Maybe that's that's how I am.

659
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: And I don't want to do any words than what

660
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 1: it is, um but I mean, I would hate for

661
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: anyone to feel shame about it. Ever, And there's so

662
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: many reasons behind, like deeper reasons to how we're maintaining

663
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: our space. And for so long it was always you know,

664
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: your space or what would people say that, like your

665
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: space affects your mental health? Like, you know, I think

666
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: that's true. I do. I totally do too. And what

667
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: I've realized over these last couple of months, and I've

668
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: been sharing more and more, is that I'm noticing that

669
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: my space is a reflection of my mental health. It's

670
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: the opposite. Like when I'm feeling just good on it,

671
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: on my routine, I'm taking care of my space is

672
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: better Versus when I'm starting to feel overwhelmed out of sorts,

673
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: like I don't have a handle on anything, like I'm drowning,

674
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: I start to let everything go bad. So it's like

675
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's the opposite way. If that makes

676
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: sense like my mind is affecting my space versus my

677
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: space affecting my mind, or I think it's just kind

678
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 1: of this endless cycle with austin power because I'm fat.

679
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: I fat. It's honestly that where you're just like, I mean,

680
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: that's how I get stuck in that in a cycle

681
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: all the time. And you know, of course, having this business,

682
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, am I like a sham like what

683
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: like like I let my spaces get like this and

684
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: that makes me feel terrible. But then I'm like, no,

685
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 1: I do have systems, and when I just take the

686
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: time to put things back, it's everything has a home

687
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: and things that are working for me. It's really that

688
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: extra step of just oh my god, put your ship back.

689
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: That's my problem. Yeah. I actually love that you struggle

690
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: with it too, because it gives me hope. And I

691
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: don't know if you feel like that hip, but just

692
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: to hear an organizer say, you know, I'm not perfect

693
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: at it, and I think that's the pressure we all

694
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: put on ourselves. Or it's about taking the time. Like

695
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: my mom is a very organized person, and she always

696
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: says to me when I'm getting overwhelmed by my mess,

697
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: like start with a drawer. Don't like try to do

698
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: the whole kitchen in one sitting. Like, do one drawer

699
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: at a time, take thirty minutes or whatever, and just

700
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: clean out a drawer, and that way you're not so

701
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: overwhelmed because it just even the idea of doing a

702
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: whole room, sometimes it's too much for me. Like the

703
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: joy that that brings right fuels you for the next

704
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: that's exactly right, the whole kitchen, right, Yeah, I mean

705
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: I really get this time. Kelly and I both were Um,

706
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: we both live alone. So you have three children. You

707
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: have an excused mess in your life. So I think

708
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: the shame is a lot easier for us to have

709
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: because the mess that exists. I mean, I have two

710
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: dogs and that's not an excuse. So what's my excuse

711
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: to where are you going with this? Your ears is

712
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: all your receipts, all those receipts on your table. I'm

713
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: looking at my clients and they're fucking wardrobe. Goddamnit, Oh

714
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: my god, take pictures of receipts. I know that's a

715
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: great idea that we live in a digital age, but yeah,

716
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's easier for us to feel

717
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: shamed because the mess and we look out is ours.

718
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 1: I also think it's funny too, and Kelly can attest

719
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: to this, like there's something like we'll be you know,

720
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: our friends are playing on getting together and I'm like, you, guys,

721
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: I've got to clean my house like it's a mess,

722
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: and I do it, and then I'll go over to

723
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: someone else's house and I'm like this not Kelly's or

724
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: not any of all your close friends, and I'm like,

725
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 1: my house is not a mess, Like it's not nearly

726
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: as gross as everyone. It's like patting himself on the back.

727
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: I mean, my office is another story. You just have

728
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: high standards. That's it. It's interesting too because like as messy,

729
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: I mean, my room literally looked like I was the

730
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: opposite of rock, like someone just came in and like

731
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't even know, just like stuff in there. But

732
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: my schoolwork and my desks have always been very orderly.

733
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Like I was the crazy, like I was that bag

734
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: with her planner all the different color highlighters, and I

735
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: was like, what are we doing and like you know,

736
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: just getting way into it, like you know what I

737
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 1: was gonna do on the weekend, Like I've kept all

738
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: my high school planners because it's a journal at this point,

739
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: Like I was just like on point um, but everything

740
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: else wasn't like that. And I feel like some people,

741
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: like you know, a chef, maybe super super anal about

742
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: the way that they maintain you know, a portion of

743
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: their pantry for what they do, but maybe their closets

744
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: the disaster Like it's it's interesting how it's not always everything.

745
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: It's like certain areas. I don't know, maybe that's just me.

746
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting. Well, Chips touched on the

747
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: fact that you have three kids, which we've talked about,

748
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: is how you got really into this business too. But

749
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: I want to know, um, if there is a way

750
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: to help children with organization, because I know we have

751
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: a lot of moms who listen and it's just a

752
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: it's got to be a lot to manage your own messiness,

753
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: your husband or you. Yeah, there's just like so many

754
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: people running around your house, so how do you keep

755
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: that straight? Um? Yeah, No, kids are insane, and it's

756
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: it's very important to approach children based on their age.

757
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 1: If there's anything I've learned from this whole process, and

758
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 1: I always say that like zero to two range, it's

759
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: more what's going to make sense for you as the parent,

760
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: Like they're not going and looking for their certain category

761
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: of toys, Like nothing they play with. Honestly, even past

762
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: that age makes sense. They'll grab like a toy car, hairbrush,

763
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: a two two, and you don't even know what's going on.

764
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: They're not grabbing things within the same category. They're not

765
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 1: playing with play sets together. They just grab random things.

766
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: So catch alls when kids are that young is just

767
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 1: so important. Catch alls being maybe it's a cube system,

768
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's canvas cubes or baskets that you're

769
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: not seeing through, Like this isn't the time for see

770
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: through organization when you have little little babies. Um, if

771
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: it's something that's going to be out in the open

772
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,479
Speaker 1: of a room, if you have a closet or something,

773
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, see through is always great for you to

774
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: help maintain things. But having things like cubes where it's

775
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: general categories, you know, a little puppets, stuffed animals, big cars, uh, figurines, whatever.

776
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, as the parent,

777
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: you're the one going in and picking that up, so

778
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: it needs to make sense for you. But as they

779
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: get older, like even as they you know, a year

780
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: and a half in the two year old phase. Um, like,

781
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: my kids love the whole clean up song whatever, And

782
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: that's really like honest as parents to encourage picking up

783
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: after they play with things. And I I mean, I'm

784
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: definitely not getting on a soapbox here because we will

785
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: go weeks with things just being totally nuts. Um, but

786
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 1: I feel like it helps kids understand like, hey, one,

787
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: let's find what we're looking for, Like they should learn

788
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: the lay of the land, and then hey, we're done,

789
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: let's put everything back or all the all the cars

790
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: are out, Let's put them all back in this basket.

791
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: That's something such a small child can do. And then

792
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: as they start to get older, you can start to

793
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: micro organize versus that macro big categories. Right. Um so,

794
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: now my girls, that can be like dolls, doll accessories,

795
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, my little l O l oh, my gosh,

796
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: the l l dolls. I can't anxiety all those little

797
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: pieces now. And now it's like everything is a surprise egg.

798
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, what they who don't those shoes don't stay

799
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: all those at all? Dolls? No, And that's not your

800
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: whole day is just can you put this back on?

801
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: Can you can you get her shirt back on? Can

802
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: you take this skirt off? Yes? This, I'm always like

803
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: putting arms back on. I'm like, she's been through a lot.

804
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: Think we're done. I'm sugared even talking about this, but yeah,

805
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: you can start to do more micro organizing, you know,

806
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: labeling with pictures, you know, before they know words, then

807
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: starting to use very general words as they're starting to

808
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 1: learn reading. You know, my daughter's almost seven. She can

809
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: read actual words now, which is really exciting because I'm like,

810
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: you know, break an excuse, you can read what that says,

811
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: put it back in it um. And also getting them

812
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: involved in the purging or just really going through things.

813
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: I want them to know what they have. You know,

814
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: we did that before Christmas time. It's just like we

815
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: need to get rid of anything we can for a

816
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: bunch of new stuff comes in. And it was cool

817
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: because early on I was working for you know, different

818
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: family friends or you know mom through Mommy and mees,

819
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,280
Speaker 1: so a lot of random things were like, oh my gosh,

820
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: take this home for your kids, which I mean now

821
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: is a business. We're not like taking our clients things,

822
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: but it was early on it was like, oh my gosh, Okay,

823
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: things that's so nice. Um. And so my kids got

824
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 1: to learn early on, like hey, you know, there was

825
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: a little girl that decided she didn't want these anymore,

826
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: and now you get to play with these. Like how

827
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: special is that? Yeah, he didn't just go nowhere, you know,

828
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: you get to play with this. And so when I

829
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: kind of positioned it like that, like oh my gosh,

830
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: what are we going to pick for other little girls

831
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: and boys to play with? Like, then they feel like wow,

832
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: like look at like we're what that's so nice of

833
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: us to be able to do that. And you know,

834
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: and I think it's important for them to understand, like

835
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: it's just it's not all about them having their stuff

836
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: all the time. Like we're trying not to raise just

837
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: like entitled a holes. Um. So I want them to

838
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: to understand like, hey, there's more than just you, and

839
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: you actually have more toys than so many kids will

840
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: have in their lifetime. And it's like I get really

841
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,439
Speaker 1: caught up in trying to say these really deep things

842
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: to my kids and they're like, Okay, well who storm

843
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: totally because I'm just like listen people, and they're just like, paid,

844
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: this really took a turn, right. They're like puls away stop. Seriously,

845
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: I know my two girls, I am starting to get

846
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: some sassy attitudes. But those are all little things that

847
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: I have found helped for me. I know I covered

848
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: like a lot of different phases, but yeah, I love

849
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 1: the sharing tip. That's a really good one. And then

850
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: the boxes. I think that's super important to have the

851
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: labels on the boxes everything place. And I love the

852
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: idea of even starting them early because it's like once

853
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: things become a habit, then your mind goes to that

854
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: versus I'm just gonna leave that on the ground whatever.

855
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: My totally my niece, So, my my first niece, who

856
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: is now thirteen years old. When my sister had her,

857
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: she was a single mom, so out of necessity, she

858
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: very early was like make made clean cleaning up after

859
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: yourself a fun thing. And it's so crazy because like

860
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: you saw it very early, like she Klea is her name.

861
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: She loved to clean up after herself and it was

862
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: something that like actually helped my sister because she's like

863
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: trying to feed the kid and do all the things.

864
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: It's like it's all hands on deck. And now she's

865
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: like her bedroom is more organized than I could ever

866
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: dream of. Being How is this teenager so organized? And

867
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: I think it's like it's just sort of an effect

868
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: that like was implanted in or at a very young age. Yes,

869
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 1: and there are so many ways you can get kids

870
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: excited about it. We are like inappropriately competitive in this house.

871
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: So I mean I just make anything a contest between

872
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 1: my kids, whether it's brushing their teeth, getting on Jamie,

873
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. And so making it a

874
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: contest just for cleaning up is something that works really

875
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: well um in our house too. I don't giving them

876
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: an incentive, yes, an ownership. I think kids don't really

877
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: do thrive on that. Chip. Did you want to talk

878
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: about I know we were talking before and Chip mentioned

879
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: something about you know, during times of uncertainty, a lot

880
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: of people really kind of gripped to something they can control.

881
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: And obviously in the last couple of years, we've really

882
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 1: been living in this crazy time where none of our

883
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,280
Speaker 1: lives are predictable. Like even when I start to think

884
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: life is going to be more predictable, I have it

885
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: a little more mapped out. Oh my god, look at

886
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: my calendar. Things are starting to play the way they

887
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: Here comes another Chips. Have you seen like an uptick

888
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 1: or like just in general, not in just your business,

889
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: but do you feel like, um, the trend of being

890
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: organized from this, I know that, Like I claimed my closet.

891
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: At the beginning of this one hundred one, I thought

892
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: we were done, Like our job is going inside people's homes,

893
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was like this is over, Like yeah,

894
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: totally done. Twenty twenty we doubled and one we doubled that.

895
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. You think it's because people were just

896
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: stuck in their houses because before that, yeah, maybe you

897
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: open a drawer that piste you off in the morning

898
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: and then you left your house for ten hours, thought

899
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: about it, came home, had dinner, had a glass of wine,

900
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 1: woke up, hated that drawer the next morning, and moved

901
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: on with your life. And now people were just getting

902
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: punched in the face by their disorganization in their home

903
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: and there was no avoiding it. It was like everywhere

904
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: people were turning there like, oh my god, no, because

905
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 1: when you think about when you're doing like full work

906
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: days or kids activities, all these things, you're really not

907
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: in your house that many hours on a regular day,

908
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: like where you're assessing your spaces, really analyzing what's going on.

909
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean we were like entertained by

910
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: watching peint dry when we were all stuck in our houses.

911
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: That was sane in sane times. But yeah, that really

912
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: really shocked me. I remember, um, because we took a

913
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: little break, maybe it was like a month or two months.

914
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean, we were back at it really quickly because

915
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: like bones were off. That's crazy. It was really insane. Yeah,

916
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: the being stuck in the houses. And I do think

917
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: that we're just like grasping for anything that we can

918
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: have control over. Right now, I still feel that way. Yeah,

919
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: so many people like remodels, like I mean our contractor

920
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: he is like so booked out, like all the projects.

921
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's all been nuts, like home depot lows

922
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: all those places. I mean everybody was like making their

923
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: own accent while people got into breadmaking. It was like

924
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: I didn't do any of these things. I just started

925
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: drinking a lot, Like what what's wrong with these people?

926
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: Can't you cope like the rest of us that pleasure

927
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: since COVID was to talk. Oh yes, I have not

928
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: caught an entity into it, don't I know. I'll be

929
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: up till four am. That's what I have. Friends. Yeah,

930
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: I'm literally that girl. It's like double yeah in my

931
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: bed laughing, like waking my husband up, and like eventually

932
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 1: they're not funny anymore and he's like, your delirious because

933
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 1: just star. Yeah. I feel like most of my lines

934
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: now in normal life are like TikTok's. TikTok. You're probably

935
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: just like the one about you know, you did one

936
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: today you were like, um am, I just better than

937
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: everyone else. I've actually made a TikTok to that. I

938
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: do know that one. Okay, see there we go. See

939
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: you're speaking TikTok that you like make TikTok's because they're

940
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: like that. It was like really weird at the beginning

941
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: of COVID, like I was way too invested in like

942
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: nineteen year old tik talkers and like wait house, and

943
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: I was like, holy shit, this is God the organization.

944
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: You got to just let your brain go, which is

945
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: probably necessary. It's necessary. Yes, Well, speaking of social media,

946
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: you have a beautiful Instagram account, and I do think

947
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: that if people are interested in taking a step, like

948
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: one one step in the direction of organization, maybe that's

949
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 1: a really good place to start. So can you tell

950
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 1: people how to find you? Yes, I would say. The

951
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: number one way is going to be Instagram. We are

952
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: at Reorganize r I organize. It's a little play on

953
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: my name, and we're actually about to reintroduce virtual organizing.

954
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: So people in home services, UM, like our lowest tier

955
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: is actually I mean really affordable and you can send

956
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: in photos of a space and we send you a

957
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: full plan and a customer shopping list. Um. So she's

958
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,399
Speaker 1: like easy, really quig easy not as large of an investment. Um,

959
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, girl, Chip get us your office,

960
00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: but deal totally. That would be awesome. Okay, So you're

961
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: offering virtuals is the place people go find that on

962
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: your Instagram or on your website. I'm about to be

963
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: announcing it so it will be on So maybe by

964
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: the time when this comes out, I don't know, um,

965
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, the website, that's where you enquire. Enquire on

966
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: the website. See tomorrow we turn things around here fast. Okay,

967
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 1: you're really organized, because that's insane, is it? Or a

968
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: really last minute let's think about that. But see, I

969
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 1: just saw something the other day. Well, because it's all

970
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: my TikTok watching, I'm super convinced I have a d

971
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: H d like all jokes aside totally. I'm like everything

972
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing where one of the things was that procrastinating.

973
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: It's like basically waiting until super last minute because you

974
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: need that pressure of like going again, I mean o'clock

975
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: you've only set for yourself. But that's when I do

976
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: my best work is when I'm hundred the gun. Like

977
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 1: it is just like maybe I won't make it happen,

978
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: but maybe I will know you will. It's how you

979
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: will make it happen. And the stress of that is

980
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: sometimes like it just forces you to perform more on

981
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: It's so bad for my nervous system, is all. It's

982
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: all what once you do it, you're just like, yes,

983
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: it's a rush, it's for sure, probably probably not the best,

984
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay, so you're being that ut super fast.

985
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: That's so awesome organizing and then also we offer in

986
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: home organizing and just be on the lookout for some

987
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: fun new announcements in the next couple of months. This

988
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: year is okay. So Instagram is at reorganized, website is

989
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: www dot reorganized. I'm right, yep, I'm going to try

990
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 1: to get on TikTok. I'm gonna do it like actually

991
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: do stuff, actually do a TikTok. You should. I feel

992
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: like you'd be a really good TikTok. I think, all

993
00:52:55,600 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, ten years too late, because I aabaging

994
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: and booty popping, and that I would be a TikToker.

995
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: I know it. I tried to learn the Savage dance

996
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: and felt the most uncoordinated and old that I've felt

997
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: in a really long time. And then that was when

998
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: I decided I hated TikTok. I remember doing sex here

999
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: that was awesome, and then you rewatch it and you're like,

1000
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: my booty pop not look like that girl's booty pop.

1001
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: I thought it did. I was just like wow, I'm like, TikTok,

1002
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 1: you're welcome, and I looked like, uh no, sorry, different

1003
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: ones and then I delete them. I'm just like, I

1004
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: can't do it. But maybe it could be like a

1005
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: TikTok fail account. You know that's a good one to work.

1006
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: You know, like you should just organize on TikTok. I'll

1007
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: follow that. God, I've like recycled random old videos. There's

1008
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: like a couple on the reorganized TikTok, but they're just

1009
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: like not good. I needed I'll make it a priority.

1010
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: It's like it's all so much work. It's all so

1011
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: much hark the social media stuff. But we'll start on

1012
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: Instagram and look for your announcement for your TikTok page.

1013
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: But this was so helpful and I actually I am

1014
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: going to take so many of these tips and bring

1015
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: them into my new beginnings for January. And I love

1016
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: your story of just going for it and taking the

1017
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: risk and really believing in yourself because I think, especially

1018
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: as women and moms, a lot of times we can

1019
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: get in our own way with that and hold ourselves back.

1020
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: So loving your story. Thank you so much for sharing

1021
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: with us. Chip. I feel like you really nailed your

1022
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: first interview. I can't even believe it was the first.

1023
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm obsessed. Yeah, he texted obsessed with her.

1024
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: I know, where are you coming here again? I'm coming.

1025
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm coming to Dallas. And we talked about this a

1026
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago on the podcast. But I'm going

1027
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: to see Jake Woodard, a friend of mine who is

1028
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: putting on this um seminar called Awake, and it's about

1029
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: masculine and feminine energies. I'm super into that stuff. So yeah,

1030
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: I'll hit you up she's going to see how they're

1031
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: make man tonight. It's like, I'm so excited, and I

1032
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: just keep thinking about how I want to like get

1033
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: ready and get all done up, and I'm like, why

1034
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: am I trying to be so hot for Heather? I

1035
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: don't know. If you are, you're gonna be on the

1036
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: front row. You have to be you have to be

1037
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: so excited it again, Yes, thank you so much. We'll

1038
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: actually yeah, well, maybe schedule a check in and maybe

1039
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: chipping out organized between now and then and you can

1040
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: help us. Okay, okay, I hope you guys learned some

1041
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: tips that Sorry, wow, this ending on our this Edge

1042
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 1: podcast is always every week, brain just stops, like I

1043
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. It's like I have a stroke

1044
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: and then I try to talk it's indeed, and then

1045
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: I recover and I try again, and I have another struke.

1046
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: But it's like a little more mini Maybe I don't know.

1047
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: It's like, um, I learned a lot today, So Ria,

1048
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: thank you so much. And I hope that you guys

1049
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: when you're going out you're living on the edge and

1050
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: maybe staying organized. Always remember to casual. I