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Speaker 4: Here, everybody, welcome to another episode of Button Nomics. I'm

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Speaker 4: your host, Brandon Butler, found o CEO of Butter atl.

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Speaker 5: And today.

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Speaker 4: We got we got some special people in the building, y'all,

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Speaker 4: Like we got a two for one up in here

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Speaker 4: for one, not the one, it's the two. You can

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Speaker 4: hear it already. Y'all can smell the shade butter through

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Speaker 4: the microphone right now.

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So one and only Miss Winter Alex, they Miss Chik

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Speaker 4: Floran of the Manor Co.

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Speaker 5: Ladies. How are you all doing?

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Speaker 3: We're doing fantastic, wonderful.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing great?

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Speaker 5: I was any better after y'all.

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Speaker 1: Great, a better.

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Speaker 5: I feel y'all. Thank y'all for pulling up.

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Speaker 3: Man thank you for having us. We're so excited to.

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Speaker 1: Be here now.

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Speaker 5: Now look look Bell Winter.

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Speaker 4: You know, like when Amen trying to get me out

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Speaker 4: this black T shirt for a couple of years, you know,

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Speaker 4: but I'm.

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Speaker 5: Holding on to it. Hold on to it. I'm holding

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Speaker 5: on to it.

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Speaker 3: I love it for you. Okay, I love that for you.

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Speaker 4: But you know, y'all do amazing work around Atlanta with

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Speaker 4: the Manico. For those that don't know. Sometimes you don't

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Speaker 4: know the podcast, we'll say, like, tell them about yourself

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Speaker 4: and introduce yourself.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna do y'all one better.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what you're gonna do?

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Speaker 5: I asked, chat cheap et? Oh no, a bio.

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Speaker 1: Are you serious?

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Speaker 5: So I'm gonna read what chat Chet said about I know.

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Speaker 1: Chat chat, so chat.

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Speaker 4: Cheape, said Bunch, Alex's founder and CEO of the Manor

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Speaker 4: Co and multifaceted design firm based in Atlanta, Georgia. Established

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Speaker 4: in twenty fifteen, the Manico offers services in interior design,

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Speaker 4: costume design, and personal styling, catering to diverse clientele. Winter

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Speaker 4: has made a name for herself by creating trend setting

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Speaker 4: Migos in Bad and Bougie. Her work spans various projects,

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Speaker 4: from designing interiors for Atlanta restaurants like Breakfast at Barney's, too,

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Speaker 4: America and The Game. Miss Sheik l Lorenz serves as the

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Speaker 4: She is also the founder of This is Chic and

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Speaker 4: is known for her contributions to style, creative media, and music.

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Speaker 4: Miss Laren describes herself as a multi multi mother for

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Speaker 4: Whether or is Sheik lead the Manor Code, blending business

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Speaker 4: acumen with cultural insight to deliver comprehensive design solutions that

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Speaker 1: Come on, comprehensive des solution, all right? Yet like that

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Speaker 1: great thank you introducing us to the world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: When people ask you, what do you say? That you

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Speaker 2: Of times I say I work, just I generally wrap

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Speaker 2: Our glass came from our glass first gig.

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Speaker 2: I always say, Brandon, you gotta let the clients choose

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Speaker 4: What do y'all remember most about that shoe because it

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Speaker 1: It was a mess.

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Speaker 2: It's like fucking mess, but it was fun.

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Speaker 2: That relationship just guardered so many more jobs for us,

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Speaker 3: Good, make people don't, make sure people don't steal.

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Speaker 1: Hey, did you manage? And even then, like I had

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh ship.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: I feel like if you like one of the kind

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not shopping at memans and you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean I am. But for the more curated stuff

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Speaker 1: And we have a kids, so like we have things

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Speaker 2: It's like our backstock, backstock of clothing, bedstock, just collected

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Speaker 1: But I'm managing that. I'm designing the website, I'm updating

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Speaker 2: Yes, she's been doing it and now this is right,

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Speaker 2: and like as we grow, she's like, Okay, we gotta

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I mentioned e commerce earlier. So back in

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Speaker 4: It's a lot of curiosity, like yeah, you know, I've

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Speaker 2: So let me tell you. So we was on one shoot.

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Speaker 5: Some cats.

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Speaker 2: Cash and so you know, of course they joked about it,

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Speaker 3: They cashed out. At the end of the day.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people understand like we are held and

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Speaker 3: Plays, costume shop, rentals. And this is a big thing

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Speaker 2: Like I'm talking to a production now about budget, and

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Speaker 3: And I know with you know, certain talent or.

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Speaker 3: But no, no.

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Speaker 1: Go back. Yeah, some of these things have to go back.

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Speaker 1: For sure. Production wants to like, we we might spend

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Speaker 3: We gotta do checks and sounds.

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like things are not cheap anymore.

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Speaker 1: but we also have to be realistic, like, Okay, this

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Speaker 4: So when somebody comes to you all with a new project,

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Speaker 2: come in at five. You know what I'm saying, just

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Speaker 2: but you have twenty to spend to get options for

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Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So.

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Speaker 3: Generally that's the conversation.

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Speaker 2: Like if they say, oh, we want you to come

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Speaker 2: can get somewhere around fifty five to six. You give

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, so, and then that's giving us leadway

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Speaker 2: for for heacups or for if you try something, no,

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Speaker 2: you get makeup on it and we can't return it.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, that's all a part

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Speaker 1: So once you get into that budget, the producers whoever's involved,

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Speaker 1: then we'll create hours start pulling things that are shoppable,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know one thing is interesting, especially because of

443
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Speaker 4: being you know, created myself. I understand, you know, budgets,

444
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Speaker 4: the buddets put together lots of different ways. Like how

445
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Speaker 4: did you how did you all learn to do all

446
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,439
Speaker 4: this stuff? Because again I heard you say that A

447
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,520
Speaker 4: and T then you red port little rich girl, were like,

448
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 4: how do you figure this shit out in the first place?

449
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 4: Like how do you even understand how to approach these projects?

450
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Speaker 4: And kind to kind of estimate like I know you

451
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 4: kind of come from reps, but like, where'd you even

452
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Speaker 4: learn the business behind all this stuff?

453
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Speaker 3: Brandon?

454
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Speaker 2: To be quite honest, it's so funny you said this

455
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Speaker 2: because I think about this morning. I was like, am

456
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Speaker 2: I gonna say, like I have like accolades and uh

457
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Speaker 2: in degrees and all this stuff.

458
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Speaker 1: It's our stelf talk.

459
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Speaker 2: Yeah, from like experience from uh era and and just

460
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Speaker 2: doing you know, like like she said, like I'm not

461
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Speaker 2: going to do I will never say like, oh I can't,

462
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Speaker 2: like that's not even my vocabulary. Well let's say how

463
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Speaker 2: I would you been, and then I'd be like this

464
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Speaker 2: figuring it out, you know what I'm saying. So a

465
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Speaker 2: lot of it is just no, A, you gotta be

466
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Speaker 2: good with money. You have to have a great work ethic, yes,

467
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Speaker 2: and that work ethic is be transparent with your client,

468
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: be transparent with production, and that gives you the longevity

469
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Speaker 2: in the career. That's how we've been withthstanding this entire time.

470
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Speaker 2: Like it's not like we have an agent that pushes

471
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Speaker 2: us for our jobs. This is all just word of

472
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 2: mouth and pure work ethic, you know. And I feel

473
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 2: like that is the stronghold that pushes the manner code

474
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Speaker 2: in front of the next person.

475
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Speaker 1: You know.

476
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's always like oh she has great style.

477
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Speaker 1: Don't get me.

478
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Speaker 2: Wrong, I'm fly, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

479
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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it comes to

480
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Speaker 2: the business behind it. They got to know that, hey,

481
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Speaker 2: you're gonna show up, You're gonna do what you're supposed

482
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Speaker 2: to do.

483
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Speaker 3: And at the end of these these these receipts go

484
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Speaker 3: check and balance. Yeah, and that.

485
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Speaker 2: Just comes from us doing and working in film and TV,

486
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Speaker 2: like they helped a lot and her being uh she

487
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Speaker 2: also does coordinating in the film world.

488
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Speaker 3: And if you guys don't know what that is, what.

489
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Speaker 1: So I got my first job as a coordinator in

490
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Speaker 1: TV and film working and wardrobe and we pretty much

491
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Speaker 1: handle the paperwork side, so we're making sure the budget

492
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Speaker 1: is going through properly, like what's being spent. We're reconciling

493
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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So we're seeing a lot

494
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Speaker 1: of money coming through and we're documenting you getting it

495
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Speaker 1: over to accounting. So that helped apply that to the

496
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Speaker 1: manor Co. I also do costuming on set and so

497
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Speaker 1: we're working with the actors making sure their continuity is

498
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Speaker 1: right though. All those things matter, So like that experience

499
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Speaker 1: we bring into the manor Co shopping all of that

500
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Speaker 1: because these jobs might sound minute, but they're very important jobs.

501
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Speaker 1: Is there's so many moving parts in the department alone.

502
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was able to take a lot of

503
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Speaker 1: that and just learning new people skills and you know,

504
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Speaker 1: the film industry is very they don't play throw and

505
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: people can will say anything to you any kind of way,

506
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Speaker 1: and you just gotta like keep it moving, keep it moving.

507
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: You gotta you know, you gotta g check when you

508
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: need to, but for the most part, you still gotta

509
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Speaker 1: get Yeah, it's just a little quick g like, hey,

510
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Speaker 1: now you're not talking to me crazy, but let's get

511
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Speaker 1: this work style.

512
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Speaker 5: People look at that because you.

513
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Speaker 1: Do not want you check sometimes, you know, a little

514
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Speaker 1: fire crack over here, got to it. But I just

515
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta there is a lot of learn there.

516
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Speaker 1: I went to school for fashion, merchandising and design. I'm

517
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Speaker 1: not really making clothes or anything like that now, like

518
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Speaker 1: I was into in college, but there's always been that

519
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: love for clothing and the overall look of a person,

520
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: like creating that look from head to toe, that vision.

521
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Speaker 1: So those those are some things. And then like I said,

522
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Speaker 1: maybe my girl right here since college, I said, oh,

523
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Speaker 1: she went it, let's get to it. You like tightening

524
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Speaker 1: that hustle.

525
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Speaker 5: I guess, well, no, I love it.

526
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Speaker 4: I mean that's that's something I talk to people about

527
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 4: a lot, is just thinking you kind of tapped into

528
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: something where there's a benefit in getting like even larger

529
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Speaker 4: like corporate experiences sometimes and then taking those learnings and

530
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Speaker 4: then like putting them into which you do from a

531
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Speaker 4: entrepreneur's standpoint, because so much of what entrepreneurs do is

532
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 4: just hustle, and sometimes you got to kind of see

533
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Speaker 4: how it's done at like larger levels like.

534
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Speaker 1: This, right, yeah, you know what I mean, Just and

535
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Speaker 1: then you figure out.

536
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Speaker 5: What your way is.

537
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 4: Like if you don't, you're kind of like just trying

538
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Speaker 4: stuff and trying to figure out where the ability to

539
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: kind of have those experiences where you can dip a

540
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Speaker 4: toe in and say like, okay, this is how it's

541
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Speaker 4: work at a different scale, and when do these projects

542
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Speaker 4: and now how can I actually apply that back?

543
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Speaker 5: Is I think?

544
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Speaker 4: You know, I always say like Atlanta's a very you know,

545
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Speaker 4: entrepreneurial city. It's a lot of hustles out here, and

546
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 4: that's great, but like you do find it sometimes like

547
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Speaker 4: when people don't have that experience, you got to try

548
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 4: a lot of things out and so to get examples

549
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: and situations where you can try it out on somebody

550
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 4: else's dimes sometimes and other situations where if it doesn't

551
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 4: work out, it's not necessarily all on you really kind

552
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Speaker 4: of helps out.

553
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Speaker 1: Listen, getting my thing is like getting good systems. If

554
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: I can pull a good system from you know, a

555
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: job or two, that helps me a lot and that

556
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Speaker 1: helps the company.

557
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so let me ask.

558
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's been you know, past Amigos, Anthony Edwards,

559
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: Jason Tatum, a Mix, deltadt Y Shack, Like at what's

560
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: been just one of your favorite projects? Like, what's been

561
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 4: something that just jumps out? You're like, you know what,

562
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: whether it just went well or it was just a

563
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 4: great experience, like this has been one of your favorite

564
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Speaker 4: overall project?

565
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Speaker 5: Shallow work.

566
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Speaker 2: So I had the opportunity to work with Ruth Carter.

567
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Speaker 2: That was like major because Ruth's I don't know, you

568
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 2: know if you don't know, she's like a beautiful black

569
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Speaker 2: woman who won a Katemy Award for Costume and Design,

570
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Speaker 2: which is first ever. And we were right there like

571
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Speaker 2: firsthand able to work with her and just see the

572
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Speaker 2: creative genius behind what she does. That was one of

573
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Speaker 2: like my highlights in my career. Very amazing junior woman

574
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: and she's just her thought process in costume design is

575
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: just top tier at this world. I would say I

576
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: like working with Anthony Edwards. He's cute.

577
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Speaker 3: That was like a fun moment.

578
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Speaker 2: And heathern mcchennan McMahon McMahons worked with her, she's a comedian.

579
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Speaker 2: We literally just wrapped that job. It was very bold

580
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 2: and colorful, and we worked with a director I think

581
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: her name was Ali Roberto, and she was super open

582
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Speaker 2: to us being able to like throw looks and we

583
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: haven't been able to do that in a commercial world

584
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Speaker 2: in a long time. So for us to throw in

585
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: like taff of the dresses and lime green fur coats

586
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 2: with over the nego boots, like we don't get to

587
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: do that often, and to do that on such a

588
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: large platform, you know, and the brand was so welcoming

589
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: to color, not at first but when we actually put

590
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: her in the clothes and they saw her light up.

591
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Speaker 1: You look at me when you said that, Well, yeah,

592
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: but you told me your.

593
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: Color coming out every now and so we could we

594
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Speaker 2: could any Let's be clear, I'm not a big color

595
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: person myself, Like you gonna catch me and a lot

596
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: of neutrals all day long, no matter.

597
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: Like even I go out, I got on a white.

598
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: Tea and some g's and fantastic like it's very easy.

599
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: But whenever you get the opportunity to Sisters was great too.

600
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Speaker 2: Like we did like mostly like a Rick Owen's palette

601
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: for their last promo, although you didn't get to see

602
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: it because they edited it's super dark.

603
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with me, but well, clothing

604
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 3: was top tier.

605
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Speaker 1: It was exceptional, you know what I'm saying.

606
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Speaker 2: The creative behind it, the creative director behind it was

607
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: amazing work the way, Eric, So you always champion when

608
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 2: you got a supportive team behind you to get your

609
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: job done. That those projects are the ones that speak

610
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: volumes to what we can do and what we're capable

611
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: of doing because we're not so limited in the direction

612
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Speaker 2: where we go.

613
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Speaker 1: It's always great to be able to have some creative freedom. Yeah,

614
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: doesn't stifle you in the work that you're doing.

615
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Speaker 4: I mentioned having a great team, and you know, I

616
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 4: obviously see that you all have been connected since college

617
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: and so there's obviously a friendship there while it's also

618
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Speaker 4: a business. But I'm sure there's been times when again,

619
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Speaker 4: like we got to have tough conversations, especially when just

620
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Speaker 4: building a team and just getting stuff together, like how

621
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Speaker 4: do y'all kind of manage and just balance that with

622
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Speaker 4: like leading and also just not just leading, but like

623
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Speaker 4: also you know, mentoring other people in the organization that

624
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Speaker 4: you work with, right, Like, sometimes you just got to

625
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 4: have like honest business conversation like yo, like either this

626
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 4: ain't working or we got to do something different, or

627
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 4: you know, somebody messed up and we just Again it's

628
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Speaker 4: not even about like yelling at people.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think.

630
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Speaker 4: Right, like at the end of the day, like we still,

631
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: especially in business, it's not all sunshines and rainbows, right,

632
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 4: So how do y'all balance that and like how do

633
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: you manage those kind of conversations to really get the

634
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: most out of the team that you have.

635
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Speaker 1: We keep it on huntred with each other. Yeah, I'm

636
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: really sugar, I mean, because she and I can talk

637
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: like that.

638
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: You know, we learn our team even like with our

639
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 2: like freelancers or you know, our employees or whomever we

640
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: work with. I'm pretty direct with what works, what doesn't work,

641
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: and then the cost of what it's going to take

642
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: for you to get out of here, because we don't

643
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: really have time for lackluster or you know, half fastness.

644
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: Like it's because this is a type of job, an

645
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: environment where you have to be self motivated. And we

646
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: will put a project in front of you and I'm

647
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 2: not going to micromanage because there's other things moving. But

648
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: when I come back to you and we're still in

649
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: the same place, your heart's not here. Yeah, so then

650
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: we just got to cut ties. And it's unfortunate, but

651
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: it has to happen.

652
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Speaker 1: We're learning to detect early as we become better stronger leaders,

653
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: like more discerning. Yeah, like being more discerning when you

654
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: have that feeling when you're seeing a certain thing in

655
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Speaker 1: the work ethics saying I don't know, we're not hearing

656
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: back or this isn't there's not a flow here there, yeah,

657
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: license to it? Or what the work doesn't translate? Like

658
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Speaker 1: you know, we we try to see like hey, can

659
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Speaker 1: can you work in another space? Are you even open

660
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Speaker 1: to it? And some a lot of times people eliminate

661
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Speaker 1: themselves out of the situation. We're a growing business and

662
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: like I said, learning to be a better leader for

663
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: me personally. But yeah, just it can be a lot.

664
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: We just we keep it, we keep it real.

665
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it takes balance, right, I mean it's just it's

666
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: like those having those conversations, and that's been the hard

667
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 4: that's been one of the things that's been a recurring

668
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 4: theme with a lot of the folks that have become

669
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: on this podcast.

670
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 5: It's like the team.

671
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 4: It almost always comes on a team and just finding

672
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 4: those right people and you know, like like they kind

673
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: of say, like sometimes the folks.

674
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 5: That get you here won't get you there. Yeah, you

675
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 5: got to.

676
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 4: Be able to have conness conversations. But I don't think

677
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: there's been a single entrepreneur that's come on here and

678
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: said like that hasn't mentioned like the importance of teams

679
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 4: and also just the difficulty that it takes in finding

680
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 4: the right combination and group of people in attitudes and

681
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: personalities actually make something happen.

682
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: Team Building is very tough.

683
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: Shout out es, yes, Yes, are Reese's pieces. Yeah, I

684
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: love you girls.

685
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: She's our strongly in wardrobe and we have another strongly

686
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: in interiors to Rod.

687
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: But Reese has been with us for like.

688
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: Maybe three or four feels like so much longer.

689
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: She's or four years now, and she holds down like

690
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: if we have multiple things going on, and we have

691
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: a pretty strong roster of freelancers that can come in

692
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: because it's the beautiful thing is because we're tapped into

693
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: film and TV. When we get like our promotion, our

694
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 2: promo jobs, or our commercial work, they love to hop

695
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: and hop out because you know, when you're on film

696
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: and TV, you're on the same project college three six months.

697
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 2: You know us, our jobs last ten days, we're on

698
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: to the next. So it's nice to have that network

699
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: of people to come in and out as well because

700
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: they already know the business. Jo I'm saying, they already

701
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: know what's expected of them. And yeah, it makes our

702
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 2: life a little easier at times until you run into

703
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: someone that like to steal. Don't cut them out because

704
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: people do steal, now, yes, they do steal, and we

705
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: run like you know, depending on the project, you may

706
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: have like a corporate card or you may have PC

707
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: which is petty cash.

708
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: And let me tell you, we have seen some things.

709
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And so we have this thing and they

710
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 2: call them top sheets. So we go through and see

711
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: like what everybody spent and then what the return looked like.

712
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,320
Speaker 2: And you go and look at like, oh no, this

713
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 2: state twelve hundred at a store I'm not going to

714
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: say to the name, and then but.

715
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 3: They only return two hundred dollar. Where is the thousand

716
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: dollars worth.

717
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: Of step right, you got to.

718
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: People will eliminate yourself, but you got to pay attention.

719
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't care because that's the thing, Like you can't

720
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: be so caught up or buried into one area of

721
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: the department that you miss the other thing.

722
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: Not us, because we oversee yours.

723
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: You say, like, yes, I'm the one booking the jobs,

724
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: but then it's like levels that runs you know, the

725
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: actual project. You know what I'm saying, Like there might

726
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 2: be one person on mood boards, that may be one

727
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: person shopping online, that may be one person in the field,

728
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: and then I'm the one talking to production, you know

729
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.

730
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 1: So it's a fighting for great Yeah, I'm the one

731
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: that stepping like, hey, can.

732
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: My girls get or I'll take a day and give

733
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: them those two days. You understand, Like it's a lot

734
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: of the sacrifice for that to be lead, you know

735
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and like take ownership of what it

736
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: is that we're building because you don't always you know,

737
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 2: as beautiful as it may seem, Yeah, we set whatever.

738
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot of a lot of mental games that

739
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: goes into this.

740
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: It's no ho, it's legit. The bar.

741
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 3: Like, I'm just gonna try and be mindful of my words.

742
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: And here you go. I mean, you know, I'm sorry.

743
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, you'll be all good.

744
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure.

745
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, So let me ask too, I mean, and I

746
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 4: got to kind of ask this question because especially in

747
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 4: my background and you're talking about teams and stuff in

748
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: this world now we're dealing with with AI and all

749
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: these dough tools, Like how do you all implement that

750
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: kind of stuff if at all, in how you all work,

751
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 4: whether it's on the business side and going and checking

752
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 4: those estimates to make sure that what people spent.

753
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 5: Is or is it on the ideation or is it all?

754
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 4: Like how did you all incorporate like any AI or

755
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: any tools in the what you all do now from

756
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 4: a creative standpoint?

757
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 3: And then we talked the chat.

758
00:36:55,160 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: We talked the chat a lot. Chat chat help, I mean,

759
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: like social media, Yeah, and hecial media for sure. Some

760
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,320
Speaker 1: mock ups for rendering. Yeah, my son just taught me

761
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: that the other day. He was like, oh my, you're

762
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: working on a coffee shop.

763
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 3: Look what I can do. He saw the color palette.

764
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: The move board and brought me back like a rendition

765
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: of what I was talking about. It wasn't what I

766
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 2: wanted exactly, but it was an idea. It was an idea, yeah,

767
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: and it was enough of me to send over to

768
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: my three D render and give her some concept phase

769
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: of what.

770
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: I'm thinking too.

771
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: So yeah, it does come in handy.

772
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's a love and hate relationship with AI.

773
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: You don't want it to take over completely, but it's

774
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: important for us to find ways to use it in

775
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: our business for sure. And the one strong hold that

776
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: we do have over AI is the personable relationship that

777
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: robots just don't have. They don't.

778
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean, look, I'm a huge advocate for AI,

779
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: but I tell people all the time, I think that

780
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 4: what it won't replace anytime soon is human creativity and

781
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: just an eye for style and stuff like that. Right,

782
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 4: so all it can definitely do a lot of things

783
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 4: to be more efficient. I'm one of the people that believe,

784
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 4: especially as a person that's like really deep in that space,

785
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 4: that what it should do more than anything else is

786
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 4: take some of the more mundane things off from your

787
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 4: plate and really allow you to be creative in ways

788
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 4: that might have taken you Again in the past, Am

789
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 4: I taking you a week to do something like minutes

790
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 4: or a.

791
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: Day about how to wrap job.

792
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 5: I'm I'm gonna show you all some stuff. I'm gonna

793
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: break some stuff down.

794
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: Great some stuff. We even you know, we were literally

795
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: on the.

796
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: A MX wrap as we were wrapping that, hopped on

797
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 2: the different job.

798
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 3: What we just get off of.

799
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Olie and and we're wrapped.

800
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 3: That's the job shot. We wrapped up Wednesday. It's Friday.

801
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: We still doing knows.

802
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 5: Do all that in five mins?

803
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that. I'm always leaning. Let me see,

804
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: those are the things, those those looks, systems, Yes, yes,

805
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: operations and systems, Yes, we need that.

806
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 4: But let me ask you if we get ready to

807
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: like start wrapping this up, when you all kind of

808
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 4: think about just the impact that you all have had

809
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 4: on the industry and especially Atlanta, Like what's the legacy

810
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: you want kind of like Manrico and all the work

811
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: you've done to kind of leave on the culture of Atlanta.

812
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,840
Speaker 2: I just want to continue to create a safe space

813
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: for those that's coming up after me, you know, like

814
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: I want the creatives to be able to know like

815
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: not only like a what color theory is, you know,

816
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: like just the basis of design, but the business behind it,

817
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 2: you know. I think so so often these younger kids

818
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: get into like this right now industry and it's not real,

819
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 2: you know, and then you hop into a position where

820
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: you're unprepared because you didn't.

821
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: Do the follow up work.

822
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 2: So I would like that just for people to understand

823
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: that we can create a space that they can come

824
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 2: in and they can learn, like what the business is

825
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 2: behind the style.

826
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 3: That's important.

827
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: I think it's you know, I don't know if you're

828
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: familiar with the term like coaching tree, okay, but like

829
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 4: in sports, they kind of talk about it all the time,

830
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: right where like coaches like Bill Belichick. When you look

831
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 4: at Bill Belichick and you look at all of the

832
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 4: coaches that have worked under him that now are head

833
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 4: coaches at other teams, it's half the damn NFL. And

834
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 4: I think what I'm hearing you say, it's kind of

835
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: something similar, right, Like it's the people that and I've

836
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: always kind of felt the same way even about the work.

837
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 5: That I do in marketing too.

838
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 4: It's like the people that have come up under me,

839
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 4: whether they were intern for me at one point or

840
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 4: they helped me out with a project through their freelancer,

841
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: like to see them kind of.

842
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 5: Blossom and certain in their own things. Something that's like,

843
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 5: you know, it feels.

844
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 2: Good when the girls come back and they be on

845
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: the lead jobs and they own and they be like, oh,

846
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: I remember you told me to do this, or oh

847
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 2: she did this, but I didn't understand why.

848
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 3: She did it.

849
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 5: You were actually right when you were when I was getting.

850
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: Your nerves telling you, hey, all these hangers need to

851
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: go in this direction because I need to see from

852
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: A to Z, you know, and then somebody else come

853
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: behind you like, oh no, you're not doing it right. Yeah,

854
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 2: it makes you feel like, Okay, I did a good job,

855
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 2: you under said. Yeah, Now, hard working effort, it pays off.

856
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 5: And how about you? What do you want to leave

857
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 5: behind for folks?

858
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: Definitely that creative community for sure, and showing you know,

859
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 1: just more black and brown us, our people, you know,

860
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: having that safe space for sure to grow to learn,

861
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: especially women. I want to see more creative work and

862
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: music as well. I want to see more creative work

863
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: in interiors and design and like not just the typical

864
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: things you might see in Atlanta, like really take it there. Yeah,

865
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: I want to encourage that, like being creative and just

866
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: taking it to a different space, not your typical look,

867
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's what I don't know, am I'm

868
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: making sense, But like you like, not your typical look

869
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: when it comes to interior or when it comes to

870
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: sound for music, and when it comes to style, like

871
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: I want people in Atlanta to take more chances with

872
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: style and creativity. Not to say that people aren't, to

873
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: be clear, because there are some really great and talented

874
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: people out here, but I think when it comes to style,

875
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: like we want to we talk about it a lot

876
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: about New York and being more heavy heavily received there,

877
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, more alternative things or not your everyday status quo.

878
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: Like you see more Yeah, you see more risk takers

879
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: in the spaces outside of here. So I want to

880
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: see more of that when it comes to style and fashion,

881
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Speaker 1: and we want to leave that. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think I think it's people getting to know us more

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Speaker 1: and learning who we are. We did kind of stand up, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know we're trying to do better. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be outside Mare, but I think that those are some

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Speaker 1: things I definitely want to say I want to be

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Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that.

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Speaker 4: Sure, that's one thing you're even saying right is like,

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00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 4: don't be don't be afraid to jump? Yeah, where'd that

890
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 4: mindset come from?

891
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: My father?

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00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 3: Her dad and my dad.

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Speaker 2: My dad has been one of my biggest cheerleaders and

894
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: my hardest critic throughout my life. So I've seen him

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00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: have a multitudes of businesses and companies and I was

896
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: like Daddy's little girl right there with a maybe step.

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Speaker 2: So I mean literally he threw me in a pool

898
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: and was like, you're gonna sink or swim and I

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00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: had to learn how to swim the figure two and literally,

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Speaker 2: so uh, that's just been a concept of life that

901
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: I just practiced, like are the seeker?

902
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 3: You swim?

903
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: And I've just never been afraid to do. And I think,

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00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: you know, those of you who have been going go

905
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 2: were contemplating whether or not to take that risk. If

906
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Speaker 2: it's something that's eating it, you just jump at it.

907
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: Life will work itself out, yep, somehow, some way, you know,

908
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 2: I know, like, and it gets tough, like it's not

909
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: like it's all roses and slessy it being an entrepreneur.

910
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 2: Even just yesterday, I was like, you know, I really

911
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: don't have an option to fail because I don't have

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00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: anything to go back on.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

914
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 2: I didn't go to pharmacy school like my dad wanted to.

915
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 2: I led a career in fashion, and it took for

916
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: me to like for him to see the success to

917
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,799
Speaker 2: be like, oh, I hope you do that.

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Speaker 5: You know what?

919
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: I know what I'm saying, So jumping for me and

920
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 2: doing I push it into my kid and anybody around me,

921
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: like all the team. I give them all the space

922
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: to create their own worlds, and then they have they

923
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: have a safe haven because we have tools, we have

924
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 2: a showroom, we have a space, so you can come

925
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: and actually create your world. Do you know what I'm saying, Like,

926
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Speaker 2: I uphold it. I fight for that because I did

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00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,959
Speaker 2: it myself. So to have the support behind someone else

928
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: to do it, I think, like that's needed. Like I

929
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Speaker 2: guess I'm going back to the same thing that she

930
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 2: asked me, Like what's my legacy?

931
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: Just to create support for those who want to do

932
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: what they love in whatever space.

933
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Speaker 2: He can be interiors, it can be cost tubing, it

934
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: can be finance, you know.

935
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Speaker 3: Support.

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Speaker 2: We met a little girl the other day. What I

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00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: say to her, I said, I think we need you. Yeah,

938
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Speaker 2: she works.

939
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Speaker 3: She works over here at.

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Speaker 2: The at the Works, and I think she does like

941
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: luxury branding, she said scat. I was like, I think

942
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: we need you as chat you know, like anytime I

943
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: see an opportunity, especially for growth within you know, especially

944
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Speaker 2: within our community.

945
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: Hell, we didn't know half.

946
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 2: These jobs exist until the and TV world got here,

947
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like religion being or wardrobe started.

948
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: My mother still be like, well, what is it that

949
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: you do?

950
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: And I said, Tyler Perry, you don't know.

951
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know, like sometimes you just have to

952
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: dumb it down for those who don't know. But it's

953
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 2: it's great that now we have this space to create it.

954
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 2: And that's one thing I love about Atlanta. Like I

955
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: came here to start a business. I literally moved to

956
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: the city to start a business. I was going to

957
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: do it in Charlotte, and my dad was like, nah,

958
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: I hear Atlanta up and coming for us. Literally the

959
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: red tape I had to go through in Charlotte and

960
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: what I had to do here to open up my

961
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 2: store back in two thousand and six, two thousand and plus,

962
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 2: that was a recession, you know what I'm saying. I

963
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 2: opened it up with what nobody get money, but we

964
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 2: found a way, you.

965
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: Know, so I love it here.

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00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, so far, so great.

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Speaker 4: Atlanta appreciate you too. Yeah, they appreciate all the impact

968
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Speaker 4: y'all are having. Yeah, you know, thank y'all so much

969
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: for pulling up BEFO we got out of here. Please

970
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 4: tell folks how they can find y'all, how they can support,

971
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 4: how they can reach out, like give them all the

972
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 4: things I think, how they track Manico down, how they

973
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: track y'all down for whatever.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can visit our website, The Manor and that's

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Speaker 1: m A N N E R dot co CEO And

976
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: from there, you know, you can see our portfolio. You

977
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: can reach out to us if you want any of

978
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: our services, whether that be interior design or wardrobe style

979
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: and costume design what have you. And you can also

980
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: check out our shop on there as well. And if

981
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you want to follow us, you can follow us on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok The Manor dot c O at The

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Speaker 1: Manor dot c O.

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Speaker 4: Ask I was getting I was getting ready say, like

985
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 4: have I've been saying this for on the whole time?

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Speaker 5: It is the Manor co right.

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00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: Some people say the manor company. It is little like

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00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: we don't even say company. It is the manor co. Yeah, okay,

989
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: you're right, manner in which things are done, your style, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 5: All right, ladies. Well, thank y'all so much for pulling up.

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Speaker 1: Hit us up if you want us to a show. Look,

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00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for having Brandon. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: This is great, No, y'all, it's so amazing. Y'all so welcome.

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