1
00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,400
Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's

2
00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,200
Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson.

3
00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,000
Speaker 2: All Right, I am here with our favorite master astrologer,

4
00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,120
Speaker 2: Marvin Wilkerson.

5
00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,000
Speaker 3: Hi Marv, Hello, miss Kelly.

6
00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,880
Speaker 2: We were just talking about a lot of things. There's

7
00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,840
Speaker 2: a lot. I'm just going to kind of get into

8
00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,159
Speaker 2: it because I feel like we have a lot to

9
00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,760
Speaker 2: dive sack today. And I told you that the word

10
00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,800
Speaker 2: of the month. It came up for me actually when

11
00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,240
Speaker 2: I was reading the full Moon outline that you sent me,

12
00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,160
Speaker 2: because there were a couple things that mention the word

13
00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,879
Speaker 2: confront and I feel like that's a serious energy that

14
00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,120
Speaker 2: we've been facing even the past couple years, Like everything

15
00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,400
Speaker 2: feels like it's being brought to the surface, and the

16
00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,280
Speaker 2: answer for us seems to be that we're being invited

17
00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,319
Speaker 2: into how we're going to walk through those things, how

18
00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,000
Speaker 2: we're going to face them, are we going to deal

19
00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,320
Speaker 2: with them? Like you've said before, all the corruption and

20
00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,440
Speaker 2: all of the systems that are broken in our world

21
00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 2: are being magnified right now, like we're seeing that and

22
00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,720
Speaker 2: that energy isn't changing. So Chip and I, my co

23
00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,759
Speaker 2: host in this podcast, decided we would really just focus

24
00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,240
Speaker 2: on that this month and the ways in which we

25
00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,959
Speaker 2: can kind of use that energy and work with that

26
00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,080
Speaker 2: energy in a maybe a more calming way for us

27
00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,600
Speaker 2: or a more positive way. So I think we wanted

28
00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,600
Speaker 2: to start with we just had the Sagittarius full moon.

29
00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,319
Speaker 4: That was a huge full moon.

30
00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,360
Speaker 2: I felt it big time, and I saw my life

31
00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:35,240
Speaker 2: seemed somewhat stable, which is shocking around a full moon,

32
00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,120
Speaker 2: but a lot a lot of things and relationships around

33
00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,160
Speaker 2: me there I was noticing just really intense things being

34
00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,600
Speaker 2: brought up for people. Can you kind of just talk

35
00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,800
Speaker 2: through the full moon first, because I know you said,

36
00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,559
Speaker 2: we're still feeling that energy for fourteen days after it happens.

37
00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, you know, at this a sagittary areas is higher consciousness,

38
00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:11,280
Speaker 3: super consciousness, and it's it operates very quickly. It's a

39
00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:11,960
Speaker 3: fire sign.

40
00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

41
00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:19,880
Speaker 3: So this full moon is really a point of the

42
00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,400
Speaker 3: of a great turning point as we start moving towards

43
00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,040
Speaker 3: the summer solstice around the nineteenth twenty third of the month.

44
00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:36,080
Speaker 3: So where this is all a very important time that

45
00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:42,720
Speaker 3: we need to utilize that higher mind. You know, I'm

46
00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:51,200
Speaker 3: always talking about in the intuition and the the higher understanding.

47
00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:57,320
Speaker 3: So that's what sagittarius is. It's higher learning. Well, what's

48
00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:01,600
Speaker 3: the highest of all learning is listening to our soul,

49
00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:07,840
Speaker 3: our spirit. It's uh, And Sagittarius is all about focus,

50
00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:13,280
Speaker 3: so it's bringing everything into focus. And one of the

51
00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:19,320
Speaker 3: things about Sagittarius is this is a this is the

52
00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,800
Speaker 3: turning point of the evolution of the soul as we

53
00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:30,240
Speaker 3: descend in the matter and then we awaken to spirit.

54
00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,120
Speaker 3: So this is uh, the you know, we're dealing in

55
00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,560
Speaker 3: a third dimension world, but we should be listening to

56
00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:46,120
Speaker 3: our fifth dimension reality. That makes sense, which you have

57
00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,400
Speaker 3: to higher intuition, higher mindedness, and so you are always

58
00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,760
Speaker 3: looking for breakthroughs and understanding. And this is the guidance

59
00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,200
Speaker 3: system that we need to follow. And of course this

60
00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,480
Speaker 3: is the full moon from the new moon in.

61
00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,920
Speaker 4: Tarus right, which is mid of May.

62
00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,320
Speaker 3: R was the mid month of May, and of course

63
00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,680
Speaker 3: Jupiter went into Tarus. And you know, we've talked to

64
00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,359
Speaker 3: Lot Kelly about values. I'm always talking about values, and

65
00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,320
Speaker 3: I got sick of hearing just the word values, because

66
00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,120
Speaker 3: values is a hell of a lot deeper than just value.

67
00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,600
Speaker 3: I mean when you say values, well that just kind

68
00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,640
Speaker 3: of rolls off the tongue, and I mean you know

69
00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,080
Speaker 3: that you just kind of okay, that's what I value,

70
00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:46,400
Speaker 3: well values. When we look at Tarus, Tarus is about survival.

71
00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,000
Speaker 3: You know, Arees was that action oriented energy we got

72
00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,320
Speaker 3: started in April at the spring equinox to where we

73
00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,320
Speaker 3: just take action. We're coming out of winter, We're taking action.

74
00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:07,880
Speaker 3: It's the pioneer, it's the courageous adventurer, it's the leader. Well,

75
00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,120
Speaker 3: when we get to where we're going, you better, you

76
00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:18,080
Speaker 3: better plant yourself, you better start uh formulating a foundation,

77
00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:24,800
Speaker 3: a place to stay, a place to live. So I

78
00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:31,640
Speaker 3: always use the symbolism of uh when we get into Taurus.

79
00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,200
Speaker 3: This is actually learning how to survive in the third dimension.

80
00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,280
Speaker 3: I mean, if you went to a whole new land

81
00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,720
Speaker 3: or an island, you'd have to search around and go

82
00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,640
Speaker 3: around and find out your what food to eat? Uh,

83
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,479
Speaker 3: what shelter you had, what what what you had to

84
00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:58,600
Speaker 3: collect to build your your place to stay comfortable and

85
00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,080
Speaker 3: so forth. Yeah, whether it's in the winter or cold

86
00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,039
Speaker 3: or heat or whatever. So when you're looking at Tarus,

87
00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,960
Speaker 3: Tarus is about you know your abilities. I mean, you

88
00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,120
Speaker 3: know when you have if you're on an island, you

89
00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,919
Speaker 3: better have some abilities and talents, but we're all born

90
00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,359
Speaker 3: with talent's abilities and tools. We all have abilities. So

91
00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:31,560
Speaker 3: these are values, our abilities are need for survival. And

92
00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,839
Speaker 3: then the final piece of that is why the hell

93
00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:40,320
Speaker 3: do we even want to be here in the third dimension? Well,

94
00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,279
Speaker 3: because it's got a lot of nice pleasures. Yeah, so

95
00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,480
Speaker 3: it's our job to establish the enjoyments and the pleasures

96
00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,200
Speaker 3: in life. Tarus is about you know, everybody talks about

97
00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:02,240
Speaker 3: sexuality and Scorpio. Well, sexuality is actually a Taurus issue really,

98
00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:08,160
Speaker 3: because that's a yes, because that's the feeling, that's the

99
00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:14,200
Speaker 3: taste and smelling, hearing, sound of of what you're what

100
00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,680
Speaker 3: you enjoy about the pleasures of the physical world. And

101
00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:24,520
Speaker 3: so we're looking for those pleasures of why do we

102
00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,280
Speaker 3: want to be here?

103
00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,320
Speaker 2: This makes so much sense to me. You know, since

104
00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,280
Speaker 2: you've brought up the word values the last couple of months,

105
00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,720
Speaker 2: I have been starting to pay attention and ask myself

106
00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,200
Speaker 2: those questions. And it's so interesting because I don't think

107
00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,640
Speaker 2: I realized maybe how much I didn't even think.

108
00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,120
Speaker 4: About what are my values?

109
00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,480
Speaker 2: And I think we like go through life often and

110
00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,640
Speaker 2: things that are what I would equate to our value

111
00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,480
Speaker 2: my values now, like the things that I value, or

112
00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,680
Speaker 2: like what you're saying, my skill sets, the ways that

113
00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,880
Speaker 2: I survive all of those things. I wasn't even conscious

114
00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:03,440
Speaker 2: of them. I was just doing and thinking them, and

115
00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,400
Speaker 2: so I just assumed that they were the same for everyone.

116
00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,400
Speaker 2: But what's been interesting is the more that I get

117
00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,360
Speaker 2: in touch with what my value system is and what

118
00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 2: my purposes and what my skill sets are, it helps

119
00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,240
Speaker 2: me to not only align in my own life, but

120
00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,960
Speaker 2: to align in like my relationships and my job, Like

121
00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,640
Speaker 2: what am I actually bringing to the table here? What

122
00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,520
Speaker 2: am I actually able to show up for? What could

123
00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,240
Speaker 2: I do better? Where can I like expand on that?

124
00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,040
Speaker 2: Or in relationships it's like, are these are these people

125
00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,760
Speaker 2: really in line with my values? Am I trying to

126
00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,400
Speaker 2: force my values on them? What can I learn from

127
00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:42,240
Speaker 2: their values?

128
00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:42,480
Speaker 4: You know?

129
00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,640
Speaker 2: Like all those kind of questions, And it's been really

130
00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,600
Speaker 2: interesting and insightful to me, Like it's helped me, I think,

131
00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,880
Speaker 2: kind of grow more into my authentic self by kind

132
00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,920
Speaker 2: of asking myself those questions precisely.

133
00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,760
Speaker 3: And that's what Taurus is. It's about a statishing all

134
00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,440
Speaker 3: of that. The words that I picked out that I

135
00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:12,520
Speaker 3: really enjoyed were attitude, principles, morality, eediology, and our viewpoints. See,

136
00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,560
Speaker 3: we have to have all of those to survive on

137
00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,160
Speaker 3: our island. And when we get into relationship, we actually

138
00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:23,240
Speaker 3: come to the table and we say, hey, this is

139
00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:28,080
Speaker 3: what's important in my life and my values and my principles,

140
00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:33,040
Speaker 3: and I'm willing to offer these up to the relationship.

141
00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:34,960
Speaker 3: What do you have to offer?

142
00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:35,840
Speaker 4: Right?

143
00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,079
Speaker 3: Right?

144
00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,760
Speaker 2: And that makes it there's space for more, like there's

145
00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,800
Speaker 2: space for two people. Like I've had issues in the past.

146
00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,120
Speaker 2: Looking back, I'm like, oh, so much of our conflict

147
00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:53,679
Speaker 2: was because we weren't aligned in values, and neither one

148
00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,760
Speaker 2: of us were appreciating the other person's values. So instead

149
00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,720
Speaker 2: of like going, wow, well you bring this to the

150
00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,200
Speaker 2: table and oh, I see that that's very important for you,

151
00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,240
Speaker 2: it was like, why don't you see it through this lens?

152
00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,800
Speaker 2: You know, like, and that's not really how it works, right.

153
00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,240
Speaker 3: That's why I always say, what do I say about

154
00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:20,680
Speaker 3: relations to ships? Fall in love of someone, not in someone? Yes,

155
00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,320
Speaker 3: by fall in love with you, I need your values

156
00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,760
Speaker 3: to line up with mine, right, But if I fall

157
00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,680
Speaker 3: in love of you, I can enjoy you with your

158
00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,120
Speaker 3: values and what you have to offer without trying to

159
00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:44,840
Speaker 3: control and power over you, Scorpio, because now we're two

160
00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:46,600
Speaker 3: individual people.

161
00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,960
Speaker 4: Right, that's finally beating for me.

162
00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the importance of our beliefs and principles and

163
00:10:54,760 --> 00:11:02,080
Speaker 3: moralities and viewpoints and ideology. That's value. So as we're

164
00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:11,760
Speaker 3: moving into it's this is also we're we're trying to

165
00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:17,280
Speaker 3: discover our values and our and what you said was

166
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,760
Speaker 3: the magic word my authentic self. See, it's the authentic

167
00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,400
Speaker 3: self that has your values. Yeah, so you're you're taking

168
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,280
Speaker 3: when I looked at this uh and looked at that

169
00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:41,360
Speaker 3: new moon, there's a spiritual process that goes on with Taurus,

170
00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:51,360
Speaker 3: with with this whole value concept. And when we're using

171
00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:57,040
Speaker 3: guidance to travel this journey in on in this planet,

172
00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,680
Speaker 3: well then it just unfolds. M hm. It isn't it isn't.

173
00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:08,360
Speaker 3: It isn't confrontational. But when we don't use it, and

174
00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,080
Speaker 3: when we're using our ego personality to walk this planet,

175
00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,319
Speaker 3: well that's a power and control mechanism. And the and

176
00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,199
Speaker 3: then the fear of survival. I mean, just think of that.

177
00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:27,120
Speaker 3: The Taurus is about that survival tech pie. Well, what

178
00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:32,080
Speaker 3: if you have a weak Tarus value system, Well then

179
00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:37,040
Speaker 3: you're you're all about survival. Yeah, whether it's survival in

180
00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:41,240
Speaker 3: a relationship, survival in a in a group, and survival

181
00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:48,440
Speaker 3: on the planet. You see. So Saturn, I mean Saturn

182
00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:54,440
Speaker 3: cars is about trusting yourself, believing in yourself, believing in

183
00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,360
Speaker 3: your ability to handle whatever comes at you. And of course,

184
00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:05,200
Speaker 3: now then when we move into that full moon and Sagittarius,

185
00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:12,240
Speaker 3: this time, we're trying to discover the breakthroughs of how

186
00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:18,079
Speaker 3: to make progress, how to communicate and communicate with our

187
00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,480
Speaker 3: intuitive surges, because Sagittarius is very intuition. I mean that's

188
00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,040
Speaker 3: psychic par excellence. I mean, you know what, Scorpio has

189
00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:33,480
Speaker 3: a thin veil and they live in this supersensitivity in

190
00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,800
Speaker 3: that veil. But it's Sagittarius that brings spirit into focus.

191
00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:45,199
Speaker 3: See that follows Scorpio. So in other words, now we're

192
00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:50,880
Speaker 3: using instead of the Scorpio power and control problems. We're

193
00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:58,199
Speaker 3: using that spiritual communication and information to now move forward

194
00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,120
Speaker 3: in this life through the guidance of spirit. Who are you?

195
00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,360
Speaker 2: I read a lot of what you wrote about the

196
00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,400
Speaker 2: Sagittarius new moon. It was kind of pinging to me

197
00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,760
Speaker 2: about just the integration, Like I feel like a lot

198
00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,960
Speaker 2: of what came before. This has been a learning for us.

199
00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,600
Speaker 2: And so then now it's like you think you wrote

200
00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,440
Speaker 2: the words walk the talk, and it's like, are you

201
00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,440
Speaker 2: going to take the information you learned then and apply

202
00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,880
Speaker 2: it into your life in certain situations? And I know,

203
00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,000
Speaker 2: for me, what I was saying about like what's come

204
00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,080
Speaker 2: up around this moon? And I don't know if anyone

205
00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,520
Speaker 2: listening has heard this either, but it's like or felt

206
00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:41,360
Speaker 2: this too, but it's it's this thing of situations presenting

207
00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,560
Speaker 2: themselves that can for me, they felt very familiar to

208
00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,120
Speaker 2: things that I've gone through in the past or you know,

209
00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like very similar. And it was like, okay,

210
00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,280
Speaker 2: now are you going to do it the same way?

211
00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,360
Speaker 2: Are you going to take what you learned this last

212
00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,640
Speaker 2: time and try to apply those tools and do it differently?

213
00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,920
Speaker 2: Like maybe it looks like the same situation, but it's

214
00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,280
Speaker 2: probably not. It's probably just an opportunity to integrate.

215
00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,200
Speaker 4: That's what I felt, at least.

216
00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:16,239
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's absolutely perfectly uh communicated perfectly said.

217
00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,160
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, so when we're in sag we've

218
00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,560
Speaker 3: we've got to make sure because sage is also can

219
00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:28,320
Speaker 3: be an exaggeration, and I mean, you know, these these

220
00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:33,720
Speaker 3: are the the zodiac pirates and bandits, I mean, and

221
00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,720
Speaker 3: and also the one swinging from the chandelier when the party's.

222
00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,200
Speaker 4: Over, right right.

223
00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:48,160
Speaker 3: So exaggeration is a big Sagittarius word as well. But

224
00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,160
Speaker 3: we're looking for those sudden urges and we're looking for

225
00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:58,920
Speaker 3: those exaggerated actions and desires. Where do we make it

226
00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,320
Speaker 3: too big, too much over indulgence. That's a big Sagittarius

227
00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,480
Speaker 3: word versus you know, keeping the you know, keeping the

228
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:15,960
Speaker 3: middle way, keeping in keeping in harmony. So and when

229
00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,840
Speaker 3: we expand out and we look at the macrocosm and

230
00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,000
Speaker 3: look at society, I think it's pushing a lot of

231
00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:26,200
Speaker 3: buttons about social morality right now. And the whole political

232
00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,920
Speaker 3: environment is pushing the buttons about our social morality in

233
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,840
Speaker 3: the whole country. And I think that that's what's disturbing

234
00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,120
Speaker 3: and is probably that's probably responsible, not even probably, but

235
00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,280
Speaker 3: that's responsible for such polarization that we're all going through

236
00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,440
Speaker 3: right now, whether it's individually, when we're looking out at

237
00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,000
Speaker 3: what the hell is going on with people? What are

238
00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:57,760
Speaker 3: they thinking? And I think that this is how we've

239
00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,720
Speaker 3: got to come to a sense of balance and a

240
00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:08,040
Speaker 3: sense of what that confrontation is showing us internally. So

241
00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,040
Speaker 3: when we get into conference, when we get into that experience,

242
00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,360
Speaker 3: what we're really experiencing on the macro cosm as we're

243
00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,120
Speaker 3: experiencing in the microk what we see going on in

244
00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:25,440
Speaker 3: society is what's going on inside of us, and we're

245
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 3: and then when we get into that an evaluation, what

246
00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,920
Speaker 3: we're fearful of is the change to who We're fearful of,

247
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,119
Speaker 3: what this could mean, what could it bring about, and

248
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,480
Speaker 3: that kind of questions what maybe might be, could be,

249
00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:51,320
Speaker 3: should be, And so that's what challenges our values, our

250
00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:58,800
Speaker 3: sense of equilibrium, our sense of balance. And so this

251
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,320
Speaker 3: is this is part of the big deal because you

252
00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 3: so we get comfortable in how we think life should be,

253
00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:15,800
Speaker 3: and then when we get into confrontation, we get into

254
00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,359
Speaker 3: the fear of change. And that fear of change is

255
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,919
Speaker 3: connected to your attachment to your own selfishness. So, in

256
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:30,040
Speaker 3: other words, where are we so selfish in fearing you know,

257
00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,920
Speaker 3: what society is offering right now instead of just being

258
00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,640
Speaker 3: confident that spirit's in charge of all of it. I mean,

259
00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,720
Speaker 3: how many times did I said you do nothing? We

260
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 3: do nothing?

261
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

262
00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I read a book a long time ago. It

263
00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,920
Speaker 3: was a great book. It's called The Spirit Destiny by

264
00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,840
Speaker 3: Trevor Ravenscroft, and it was about the spear that actually

265
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,159
Speaker 3: hit Jesus in the side. And near the end of

266
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,719
Speaker 3: the book it was really interesting and I got into

267
00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 3: the fact that as above, so below, we don't understand

268
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:14,280
Speaker 3: that spiritual battles are taking place above to mirror what's

269
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:19,960
Speaker 3: going down here. So in other words, we are spiritual

270
00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,520
Speaker 3: beings learning to be in balance and stay in that

271
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 3: balance place of spirit and the soul instead of the

272
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 3: ego personality, which is the cause of imbalance. And so yes,

273
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,240
Speaker 3: the spiritual realms are fighting battles that we're fighting down here,

274
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:48,600
Speaker 3: as above, so below. So you know, it's like people

275
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,080
Speaker 3: come in here and say, well, I meditate all the time,

276
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:56,600
Speaker 3: and I'm getting all of these really scary images. Why

277
00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 3: wouldn't you Everything is there, What do you mean, Well,

278
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: you're in the marphic field, you're in the pontum reality.

279
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 3: All is God, there is no separation. We make it

280
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 3: good and bad in our minds, and our minds are

281
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: the filter for what we're experiencing from our minimalist view,

282
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,440
Speaker 3: and then we make it good or bad and we

283
00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 3: pomeriize it. And so this is kind of what we're

284
00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 3: going through as we start now moving into the Gemini

285
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 3: New Moon on the eighteenth. Gemini is duality, so communications

286
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:45,440
Speaker 3: and everything is dual. And the challenge with Gemini is

287
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 3: to resolve the conflict between the ego and the shadow

288
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 3: in any given personality. And so the ego strives to

289
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,919
Speaker 3: take the conscious path, whether the founded in the individual

290
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,919
Speaker 3: will the mores of society at large, and the shadow

291
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 3: represents the values we have repressed or refused to acknowledge

292
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: from several lifetimes or even in this lifetime. So values

293
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,640
Speaker 3: can be either feral and violent or they can be

294
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: spiritual and transcended. And so depending on our value system

295
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 3: is how we use to shape the conscious mind. Remember

296
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 3: Carl Hume said, when the conscious mind knows the shadow,

297
00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: stuff in the subconscious mind will be enlightened. So we're

298
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: here to understand all of our past where we've aired

299
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 3: in perception and perspective. And so this is what we

300
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: get in Gemini and why we polarize. We pull the

301
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: rise out of the fear of change, and that's connected

302
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: to our attachment to the status quo.

303
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: This always reminds me of that Buddhist story. I think

304
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: I've talked about it on the podcast. I don't know

305
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,120
Speaker 2: if you and I have specifically talked about it about

306
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 2: the farmer whose son gets injured.

307
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 4: Have we talked about that?

308
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 3: I don't remember that.

309
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 2: He basically, basically the gist of the story is all

310
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: of these things start happening to this farmer, like his

311
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,640
Speaker 2: crop dies, and the whole town freaks out and they're like,

312
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is so terrible, and he's like,

313
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's terrible, like you know, a

314
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: guess we'll see or whatever. And then something happens where

315
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,199
Speaker 2: he ends up developing in this whole new crop and

316
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 2: it's all this stuff. And then it's like his son

317
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: is working out with the horses and falls off one

318
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 2: of the horses and loses a leg, and the whole

319
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: town freaks out again and they're like, oh my god,

320
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: this is just so terrible. How will you survive? And

321
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: he's like, well, I don't know if it's terrible. And

322
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 2: then literally the week later, the whole town of young

323
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: men get sent off into war and they're killed in battle.

324
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 2: But his son couldn't go because he lost his leg

325
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: And so it's just like the idea that like, we

326
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 2: don't really know what the universe is up to at

327
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 2: any point in time, but if we attach to outcomes,

328
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 2: just as you're saying, we look at things like God,

329
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 2: this is terrible or this is bad, or that person's

330
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: bad or that person's good, and it's like no, it's

331
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 2: just all like we don't see the bigger picture always.

332
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 2: And so like I hear a lot of what you're

333
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,000
Speaker 2: saying of just detachment and saying like, Okay, well this

334
00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 2: is what's being presented to me. How do I navigate

335
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: the next right step instead of attaching to some outcome?

336
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I heard it from the standpoint of maybe

337
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 3: so maybe not.

338
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's the story.

339
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same. It's the same basis. And that's

340
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: part of the whole basic quantum physics idea of what

341
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 3: we look at is what changes, Right, So we're in

342
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 3: charge of looking at something and then manifesting it. If

343
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 3: there is no time in space, and what we look

344
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: at we change, that could be a very scarer reality

345
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 3: because if we look at it negative, we produce a

346
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: negative reality. If we look at it a positive, maybe

347
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 3: we'll produce the harmony of acceptance of what it is, yeah,

348
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: and wait to see how it plays out.

349
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: Yes, and so does that takes dropping the ego big

350
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: time because it's like we immediately or I know, I

351
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 2: immediately just want to go into control, fix, you know whatever.

352
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: And sometimes it is just about sitting back and waiting

353
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: to let things unfold.

354
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 3: Well. And this is why, I mean I struggle with

355
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: trying to get people to live in the moment, right.

356
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,959
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll settle for living in one day at

357
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: a time, but living in the moment can be very,

358
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 3: very difficult, and it takes practice. Yeah, I mean, you know,

359
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: you just don't live in the moment. You have to

360
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 3: when you're confronted with anything that you're trying that's causing

361
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 3: any kind of imbalance, disharmony, or confusion. You're trying to

362
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: bring yourself back to center and say, all right, wait

363
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: a minute, what's going on right now? What's going on

364
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 3: right now? Yeah, And that way you can be much more,

365
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 3: much closer to the moment when when you're confronted with

366
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: something that could be difficult. And of course you know

367
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 3: we're going to go through a I mean we've already

368
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: started our political year and a half. Here we're going

369
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: to be going through communications and polarizations and heavy thoughts

370
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: and communications, and we're going to need to learn how

371
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: to step back from it think alone. I mean, you know,

372
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 3: we all we all need that space to reflect of

373
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: what's going on inside of us, what what what is

374
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: our real values? You talked about it earlier, and so

375
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: that's very important in Gemini as well. I mean, typically

376
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 3: Gemini is the squirrel cage of constant chatter in the

377
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 3: in the conscious mind, it doesn't shut up, so it's

378
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 3: always going and going and going and going. And when

379
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: people get attached to that conscious mind, well then that's

380
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 3: what the conscious mind wants. That ego wants recognition, and

381
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 3: it wants the power to manipulate and control you into

382
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 3: which way it sees that is best for you. So

383
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: we need to step back and think about where you know,

384
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: what it is it's important for us. I mean, you know,

385
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: we've got to I wrote down here, imitating the image

386
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: of one's idealized self until it becomes reality. Of the

387
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: One of the Buddhist things or one of the Yogi things,

388
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: is you know, whether you've achieved your greatness or haven't

389
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: see yourself has already having achieved it, and act like

390
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: it and become it, and that's the way you become

391
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 3: your higher self.

392
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. In twelve step, they say act as if.

393
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: And then you separate what's phony, yeah, which is the

394
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: conscious of thoughts. Yeah, so you know, we have to

395
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: get the we have to really pull in sometimes and

396
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: think about a lot of rigid viewpoints. There's going to

397
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: be some rebellious things that come up, probably because of

398
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 3: an indictment. So I would imagine, you know, it's got

399
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 3: uranus mars and we've been dealing with that for a while,

400
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 3: and that's war, that's sudden rebellion, that's conflict. Uh So I.

401
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 5: Anticipate there's going to be some uh some rattling cages

402
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 5: over the next couple of months as well, especially as

403
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 5: we get into And that's why your whole thoughts on

404
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: confrontation is important because it gives us the opportunity to

405
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 5: stay in balance when all.

406
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: Around us is falling to pieces.

407
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

408
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 2: Well so that's a little bit about that, because I

409
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 2: actually think, like my friend Mary came to see you

410
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: think it was last week, and she told me about

411
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: what you said about this, about just kind of the

412
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 2: rebellious attitude and maybe some of those things coming back up,

413
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, my immediate reaction is just

414
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 2: heavy because it's just like ugh, I think we all

415
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 2: just need a break, you know, like can we just

416
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: coast for a minute or maybe like not be so

417
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: volatile and divisive, Like I feel like a lot of

418
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: people are calling for that energy. So what are some

419
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: of the ways that we can stay a little more

420
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: balanced as things like that come up?

421
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: Well, and I would say that that is where that

422
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 3: withdrawal and get that loan time downtime. Okay, see this

423
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 3: is kind of important for cancer. I mean when you

424
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: get when they go through all of their emotions, they

425
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 3: have to sometimes step back from those emotions and weed

426
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: them out and kind of get them integrated and organized

427
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: to where there's not so volatile. Yeah, well it's the

428
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 3: same thing within all the communications that's going on around us.

429
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: So and then when we got a neptune factor involved,

430
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: Neptune is this is the all in all. This is

431
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: universal consciousness. So everything is there and it can cause

432
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 3: a lot of diffusion, delusion and confusion, and so we've

433
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: got to become more self assured during this time Okay,

434
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: that's why the values were so important. Yeah, what do

435
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 3: we believe in? Yeah, and not what our parents believed in,

436
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 3: not what we were raised to be, But what do

437
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: we believe? What's my morality? What I think is right

438
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: for society? What kind of society do I think? And

439
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: that's not for you to go out and be confrontational.

440
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 3: That's for like mindedness, which is what friends are. Groops

441
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,719
Speaker 3: are light minded people. So I think that this is

442
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: what we're all doing, is trying to find a balance

443
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: between the needs of self and the needs of others.

444
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: When we when we take care of ourselves and nurture ourselves, well,

445
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: then it's easier to nurture and take care of other

446
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 3: others that may need some support or need some talking through.

447
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, a lot of a lot of

448
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: counseling is just seeing more than what we call holding space.

449
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: If I hold the space, why you download, Well, then

450
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm letting you get it out. And that's what friends are.

451
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: That's what people need to do for each other, be

452
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: there for I'm there for you if you need me.

453
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean, just that little bit of confidence can change

454
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 3: somebody's life very dramatically.

455
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it changes everything because I feel like

456
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: the second we can say are hardships or are like

457
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: inner turmoil to someone else and still feel accepted and loved.

458
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: It opens up our own connection with our intuition, with

459
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: all the things to where we might know what the

460
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 2: next right step would be. But it's like so important

461
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 2: for us first to feel seen and heard. And I

462
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: think that that is so calming to everyone's nervous systems.

463
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 3: Well, and what it causes this whole nurturing thing is

464
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 3: is I get a lot of clients, a lot that

465
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: they're just they're they're disappointed, they're they're there, they have

466
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 3: no happiness in their life because they've spent their entire

467
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: life trying to fix others. Yeah, and do for others.

468
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: I'm doing for others. I'm doing for others. When when

469
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: when at some point you get to the place to

470
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: where when you're pulling the board out of your own

471
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: your brother's eye, and you leave it in your own

472
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: eye and give you a pretty bad disposition. Yeah, And

473
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: so it's always you're always looking and saying, Okay, how

474
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 3: am I taking care of me? How am I making

475
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: me happy on this island? How am I making me happy?

476
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 3: In third dimension reality. How am I enjoying the world?

477
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: How am I building the home around me that I

478
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: enjoy and love and decorate it all? So a happy

479
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 3: person can help be supportive of another person that's trying

480
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: to find happiness. Yeah, it can't work. Unhappiness can't develop

481
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: happiness on its own.

482
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: No, you can't give someone else what you don't have

483
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: for yourself.

484
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 3: Right, So if you don't love you, well, I mean

485
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: that goes into what I've always talked about. Love thyself

486
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: with all thy heart, with all thy mind, and with

487
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 3: all thy soul. Then love thy neighbor as thyself, and

488
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: then the and then the bottom line edict is don't

489
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 3: remove from the shoulder the burden of one that's supposed

490
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 3: to carry it. You can listen to them, you can

491
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 3: be objective, you can you can have empathy, but you

492
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 3: are not to fix people. And that's service.

493
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 4: That one hits for me, Okay, And so.

494
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 3: I think that that's how we need to really go

495
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 3: through this time is making sure we stay in balance

496
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 3: with ourself and with others. And if you're realizing that,

497
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: you know, everything that happens in your life is an

498
00:34:54,040 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 3: opportunity for you to to get a new perspective, a

499
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 3: new about something that you're needing to get, a new perspective,

500
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: perception about that's coming out of the past life. A Remember,

501
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: there is no time, and if there's no time and

502
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: no space, you're living a thousand lifetimes all at once.

503
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 3: You think, linearly, well, I'm here now. If I pitched me,

504
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: it hurts, right, But the truth of the matter is

505
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 3: there is no disconnect between the past, present, and the future. No.

506
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm really starting to buy into that more too, because

507
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 2: especially like if you want to use the word trauma

508
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: or whatever you want to say, like I've found it

509
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: in my lifetime, like there's certain catalysts that open up

510
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: certain wounding against me. But I feel like a lot

511
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: of what I'm starting to realize is how much is

512
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: carried over from other lifetimes and so you are like

513
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 2: working through all of it all at once, and it's

514
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: not us like what's happening right in front of you.

515
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 2: A lot of times, that's just the thing bringing all

516
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 2: of that to the surface into your awareness again.

517
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: Right, and that gives you an opportunity. So everything in

518
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 3: life is an opportunity, right about If we looked at

519
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 3: it like that, that would keep you out of confrontation.

520
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 4: Wouldn't it Yeah, yeah, yeah.

521
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: And so that balance is a big deal. And now

522
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: what's going to make this a little bit of a

523
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: struggle as the Pluto's went retrograde now back into Capricorn,

524
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 3: and we're going to have a lot of exposure of

525
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 3: all the indecencies, the corruptions, the problems and our probably

526
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: in our personal lives as well as in the social

527
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 3: the macrocosm in society. And so as we go through

528
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: a lot of this, Uh, it's going to be polarizing,

529
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 3: it's going to be confrontational. But it's just like we

530
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 3: talked earlier about the article that I sent you. If

531
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 3: you can't if you have your ideas and you can

532
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: you can discuss, not argue, discuss your perspective in points

533
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: with somebody that will be honest and discussing their perspective

534
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: in points without getting into conspiracies, without getting into non

535
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: factual information. I mean, if you're going to talk non

536
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: fact well, we have nothing to discuss. I'm not going

537
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: to get into your conspiracies. I'm not going to try

538
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: to change your mind. I mean, my job isn't to

539
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: change your mind. My job is to help clear your

540
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: vision so you can find balance an opportunity in your life.

541
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: I've had a really interesting experience in a work environment

542
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: recently where it's dealing with I'm working for people who

543
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: see have a very different political view than me. And

544
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 2: I was so torn at the beginning of taking this

545
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 2: job because I was because of all the divisiveness. It's

546
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: like I almost felt like, oh, like that's the enemy

547
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: at first, or like I can't work with them, you know,

548
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: Like I found myself having these thoughts, and I was like, wait,

549
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: this is not what I'm about. Like, if we're going

550
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: back to values, one of my highest values is love

551
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: and so like valuing everyone and producing, you know, giving

552
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 2: out giving love where I can and get giving and

553
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: receiving love. This is big thing that I've been learning

554
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. And so I took the

555
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: job anyway and thought, I'm just going to show up

556
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: every day and I'm going to.

557
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 4: Be kind.

558
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: That's just like my only goal is do my job

559
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 2: and be kind. And what's been so interesting is that,

560
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 2: like I don't really have these massive discussions about political views,

561
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: but what I'm finding that I'm learning from them is

562
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 2: they actually maybe they have different views on certain things,

563
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: but they're not this version of whatever has been created

564
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: in the media that's made.

565
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 4: Me hate the other side. Like most people I do.

566
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: Believe have a little more like middle ground or desire

567
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: for peace or desire for compromise than what we're presented

568
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 2: on a daily basis. And so it seems like if

569
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 2: we actually took a step back from what's being presented

570
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: to us, like on the news and all the shit

571
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 2: all the time that's clickbait, maybe we could actually discuss

572
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 2: with each other and we could just say, hey, I

573
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: respect your views, like it doesn't. You don't have to

574
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: change everyone to think exactly like you. That's why we

575
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: live in this country, you know. But it's been really

576
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: interesting for me to to entertain the idea of like

577
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: not trying to change other people's opinions or how they

578
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: see the world or what their life is journey is

579
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 2: bringing them on, but also like being able to stay

580
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: in the same space as them in a kind considerate manner.

581
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: I don't exactly remember I brought that up, like what

582
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 2: you said that pinged that for me, but but that

583
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: is something in this energy that I feel. It's like

584
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 2: we don't have to just like shift everyone we don't

585
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: have to fight all the time. Like there are ways

586
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: for us all to exist together.

587
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean you know the way I like to

588
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: deal with uh, that is to just find commonality.

589
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there.

590
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 3: And that's all you deal with. I mean, you're sure

591
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: when you're trying to all your all you care about

592
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: is being supportive of and caring for other people. I

593
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 3: think you know that's I mean that that's a that's

594
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: a very strong, powerful lens that people see you as, Oh,

595
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: she really cares all, that he really cares all. And

596
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 3: then you can and then there's always you know, fun

597
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 3: and and and and so forth. And I always look

598
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: at some situations and realize that, uh, it's more important

599
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: for me to have empathy and and understand that that's

600
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: whatever value is going to cause pain. Well, it's not

601
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 3: for me to correct that. Yeah I can, I can.

602
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: I can understand that's that's what they've got to go through.

603
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I've certainly been through enough pain in my life, right,

604
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: and so and I didn't listen to anybody, so why

605
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: to me? Right?

606
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: And that's like you said earlier, like it's not actually

607
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: our job to protect people from their own journey, which

608
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: can include pain unfortunately, like pain is the biggest teacher

609
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: in my life most of the time. But that's not

610
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 2: really our job. But our job is to be kind

611
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: and loving I do feel and in service to others.

612
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 4: As you said, I don't know really.

613
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: So I think that as we go into this Pluto Capricorn,

614
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: especially for the rest of the year until January twenty second,

615
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 3: twenty four, I think that we're going to be confronted

616
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: with some pretty foul stuff. I mean, you know, struggling

617
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: with communications and practical schemes, even religious interference and non

618
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 3: religious concepts and ideas, ideals, a lot of political theater,

619
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 3: and so this is giving us an opportunity to stay

620
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 3: in balance with it all in instead of buying into

621
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: the fear, instead of buying into a confrontational latitude. So

622
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: I think that we're it's a great time to be

623
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 3: an observer and realize that Spirit's in control no matter

624
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 3: how it turns out. And my favorite story is the

625
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: one with the Angel of Cycles and Solutions riding at

626
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: the front of the train and just well that's where

627
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: the people on the front of a train. When you're

628
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 3: going through the journey, you're always looking out the front

629
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 3: window saying, oh, look at God's handiwork. Ain't that nice?

630
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: Ain't that wonderful? Ain't that interesting? One? You know, how's

631
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: that going to play out? You know, enjoying what's being

632
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: made manifest. People on the side of the train are

633
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: looking up the side of the window going, oh my God,

634
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: that's horrible. That's terrible. Somebody ought to do something about that.

635
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: And then the people on the back of the train

636
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: want to get off the train and get involved and

637
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: change God's plan. Yeah, And so I always try to

638
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 3: stay in the front of the train just look at it,

639
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: see it unfold, without getting into the fearfulness, the confrontation

640
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: of it all, and just letting go and trusting, you know.

641
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: And on the Native American medicine wheel, trust comes before love.

642
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: So spirit always always ask you to trust first, then

643
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: you can find love.

644
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 2: Oof that that I mean, yeah, I can't even find

645
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: words because that was just the way that that's worded

646
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 2: is exactly what I have found in life. And it's

647
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: sort of like like we were talking before the podcast

648
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 2: and I said, you know, it's so interesting, Like I

649
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: coming out of COVID was so just feeling like, Okay,

650
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: I've got to get the hustle back to like get

651
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: financially set again, and just like that was such a

652
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: hard time. And then we're talking everyone's talking about this

653
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: recession and all the things, and You've been kind of

654
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: like laughing that off like a little bit, and you

655
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: were like, just don't worry, Like there's it's just there's

656
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: too much abundance coming, like you could see it in

657
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: the charts. And I swear I have not done anything

658
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: different in life lately, but I've just trusted like you

659
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,479
Speaker 2: were seeing it, and I was hearing that from other

660
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: healers as well, and so it was like, Okay, if

661
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: everyone's saying this is the energy, like I'm just gonna

662
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: trust the universe, because Lord knows, the universe knows more

663
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 2: than I do. And sure enough, like it has been

664
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: a season of just so much coming in, like and

665
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: not because of anything I'm doing different. It's just flowing

666
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 2: in though, And that is just like that's coming up again.

667
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: It's like why do we get in the way so often?

668
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: But if we trust and we keep just showing up

669
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: every day and doing you know, taking the next right step,

670
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: doing the work whatever you want to call it, Like

671
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 2: it really does manifest in whatever where the universe has

672
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 2: prepared for us.

673
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 3: Yes, And I mean, you know, the big word through

674
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,799
Speaker 3: all of this is focus. Yeah, you know, we've got

675
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: to focus on all the negative self talk. We've got

676
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: to focus on our discipline and develop that in an

677
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: intense focus so that we have a single mindedness. And

678
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 3: then you know, single mindedness can be positive or negative.

679
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: That can be obsessive, exaggerated, or it can be a

680
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 3: desire to become more self realized, more authentic, more and

681
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: more in our ability to become paying attention more to

682
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 3: uh spiritual conversations that goes on within us. And so

683
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 3: the power lies in walking that middle road. And the

684
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: challenge is is are we healing or are we just

685
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: placating our our old habits and beliefs and conditions and patterns.

686
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 3: So as we shift our focus away from light and

687
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: dark scenarios, we really see a unified reality with all

688
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,399
Speaker 3: the manifestations. And the one thing that I always walked

689
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 3: about David Hawkins, Doctor David Hawkins, in his work he

690
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 3: talked about just view the world as entertainment. It's a

691
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 3: big amusement park. Every single thing that goes on in

692
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: the world is nothing more than some soul has the

693
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 3: opportunity to grow from that experience. And we've got of

694
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 3: seven big people, there's seven billion souls has a variety

695
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: of different experiences. They need to become self realized. So

696
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 3: everything that happens, whether it's war, whether it's death, no

697
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 3: matter what it is, we have to gain something from

698
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: that greater understanding that that's that's the perfect manifestation of

699
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 3: the universe. It's balanced. There's nothing imbalanced in the universe.

700
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: And so when we look at the amusement park of life,

701
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: we can have a little bit of way to laugh

702
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: it off. That's what you do in the amusement park.

703
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 4: Well, you laugh and you scream if we're being honest.

704
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: So we're just we're just going through tough times to

705
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 3: master ourselves.

706
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all it is.

707
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, or that's is what it is, not all it is,

708
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 3: but yeah, and enjoy the life you're given because there's

709
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: abundance there.

710
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: I feel that.

711
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: I feel that now for sure, and I think that that.

712
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 2: Like I think a lot of times it's easy for

713
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: us to be like, well that's easy for you to say,

714
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 2: or like sometimes I'll be listening to Oprah's podcast and

715
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, of course that's easy for Oprah to say,

716
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: look at Oprah's life, you know, but I think that

717
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: we all individually, if we stop the comparison, can look

718
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 2: it's the same thing as looking at our different values,

719
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: Like there is a skill set that every single human

720
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: being brings to this planet. There is a value, There

721
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: is something, and it's the same thing with abundance, like

722
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: in whatever that looks like in your life. It might

723
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: not look like Oprah's life or my life or whatever,

724
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: but there is abundance if you're willing to look for

725
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 2: it and see it. And I feel like we get

726
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 2: exactly what we're supposed to get in this life.

727
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because we're getting opportunities to grow, right, So

728
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: everything is an opportunity. Yeah, it's not a confrontation.

729
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

730
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 2: Well, if anyone wants to discuss this further with you, Marv,

731
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: or look at how it's playing out in their own

732
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: individual life, where can they find you?

733
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: They can find me at Marvin at astromarv dot com,

734
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 3: send me an email, or they can go to my

735
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: website astromarv dot com and all my information is.

736
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 4: On there all right.

737
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: Well, as always, I will put that in the description

738
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: of this podcast for you guys.

739
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 4: Marv, thank you for being here with us.

740
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh I was. I had more fun than you.

741
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: Kelly, Well, happy gens to you guys. Let's look at

742
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: the way as we can confront in a peaceful way.

743
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: It sounds like we might need that a little bit,

744
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: all right. Thank you guys so much for listening.

745
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson,

746
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet and a

747
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty

748
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,879
Speaker 1: and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.