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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. As I

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Speaker 2: mentioned to, Clay has touchdown from Australia. He is back

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Speaker 2: in the state's twenty four hours of travel. He'll be

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Speaker 2: with us tomorrow. So we'll go back into Clay and

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Speaker 2: and immigration this hour to get to We know that

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Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson went down to the border yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: want to get into some of that and also the

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Speaker 2: debate over what the policies here should be going forward.

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Speaker 2: We know that things are a mess. We know that,

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Speaker 2: for example, Eric Adams is claiming that it is Governor

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Speaker 2: Abbott trying to destabilize the cities. Let me just take

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Speaker 2: this on for a moment here. Why And I have

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Speaker 2: worth saying it out loud. Why is it that Governor

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Speaker 2: Let's say, but all of a sudden, you don't hear

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Speaker 2: a lot about the White House, which enforces federal immigration law.

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Speaker 2: You're not hearing about how Joe Biden is destabilizing cities

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Speaker 2: with his open door policy, his open borders policy at

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Speaker 2: the US Mexico border. But you hear criticism of Governor

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Speaker 2: That guy is somehow the bad guy for Democrats because

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Speaker 2: cities that they want to go to. Keep that in

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Speaker 2: of illegal aliens in the United States was New York City.

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Speaker 2: Of any city, now that makes sense, it's the largest city,

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Speaker 2: That's been the case for a long time. But somehow

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams, mayor of New York, thinks that Governor Abbott

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Speaker 2: the problem. This is cut twenty play.

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Speaker 3: It extremely pleased that VC has taken his action. The

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Speaker 3: send a very clear, allowed message to the governor of

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Speaker 3: and I think this action is extremely appropriate, but it's

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Speaker 3: also a crucial and I need to say this that

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Speaker 3: this is a national problem and all of these cities

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Speaker 3: need help from the national government, a decompression strategy, funding,

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Speaker 3: making sure we allow people to work and sue the

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Speaker 2: And so Kudos suit is important lawsuit.

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Speaker 3: That they put in place, but we still need the

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Speaker 3: national government to solve this national problem.

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Speaker 2: I sit here and I just feel my blood pressure

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Speaker 2: pursue the American dream. No, this is about people who

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Speaker 2: have overwhelmingly lied to immigration authorities, skipped the legal immigration line,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was just another gonna say, oh, but

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Speaker 2: by regulation and government intervention effectively making it too expensive

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Speaker 2: Speaker Mike Johnson was down there at an Eagle Pass, Texas.

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Speaker 2: He spoke about Governor Abbot, and this is what he

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Speaker 4: Governor Abbott has heroically done more to enforce the law

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Speaker 4: They have sued the State of Texas to stop their

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Speaker 2: It's absolute insanity. It's the most Democrat thing ever, that

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Speaker 2: being enforced. I know you could start to think this

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Speaker 5: Play fourteen Eagle Pass typically very busy with thousands of

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Speaker 2: You guys show up here, it's pretty dead. What are

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Speaker 4: Well, it illustrates that this could be turned off like

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Speaker 4: half heartedly, maybe we should make congressional trips once a

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Speaker 2: You know, they looks like they try to control the

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Speaker 2: there are no illegal migrants that Eagle pass. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they seems like quite a coincidence. Maybe they shifted

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Speaker 2: elswhere in the border. It doesn't really matter. The point

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Speaker 2: if the White House was taking the position that they

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Speaker 2: all of these things. But that is not the game

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Speaker 2: they're playing. The game they're playing is they would like

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Speaker 2: This is what one of the things that bothers me

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Speaker 2: I mean, they try to say, oh, we're tough on

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Speaker 2: Speaking speaking of tough on crime. So is in Nevada.

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Speaker 2: You may have seen this. It's up on clayanbuck dot

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Speaker 2: here I can give you the names. Yeah, a judge

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Speaker 2: anything like this before ever. Honestly, a Nevada judge attacked

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Speaker 2: the truly systematic nullification of our laws by sorrow's prosecutors, right,

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Speaker 2: a sexual assault conviction. Let's not be too hasty. I

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Speaker 2: That's the attitude of a lot of Democrats, a lot

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Speaker 2: in June of twenty twenty, I was I was all

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Speaker 2: in on this is madness. There's no negotiation with this movement.

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Speaker 2: There's no discussion about how we need to change funding

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Speaker 5: Something has been revealed during this entire episode, and that

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Clay and Buck. I had

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Speaker 2: to shed some light on how the heck this kind

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Speaker 2: of thing could happen. Tom, Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 6: In, Hey, Buck, thanks for having me, longtime rest listener.

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Speaker 6: You guys are doing good job.

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Speaker 2: Thank you we're trying, sir, So tell me, tell me.

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Speaker 2: I mean, was clearly there was a security lapse here.

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Speaker 2: But I guess that they can't handcuff a defendant, right

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Speaker 2: because that looks bad to the jury. Or what are

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Speaker 2: what do you call it? Metal detect people before they

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Speaker 6: Well, I know, by transporting inmates to courtrooms across Illinois,

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Speaker 6: But some of these judges, you know, they just got

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Speaker 2: So so their defendants can remain handcuffed. Or was that

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Speaker 6: Absolutely? And this guy's there for sentencing, he's already been convicted.

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Speaker 1: That was in.

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Speaker 2: Nevada, right, Yeah, Nevada yeah.

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Speaker 6: I would if it's like Illinois at all, it would

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, oh so okay, Well in this case, it sounds

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Speaker 2: you know, like if someone were to you know, Tom,

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Speaker 2: a bailiff, a member of the court like that, Well,

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Speaker 2: what kind of sentence. I guess you could speak to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I sure, we'll hope. So, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: But well, what about you when you were in a correction,

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Speaker 6: Oh, most definitely, most of the time. Yes, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Tom, thanks for calling it from Illinois. I gotta say,

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Speaker 2: The video is very clear, and this guy jumps, I

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Speaker 2: As I said, It's up on claybuck dot com. You

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Speaker 2: she wasn't, you know, hospitalized, she was attacked, she was punched,

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Speaker 2: She's all right. But you know, is people just saying

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Speaker 2: Michael writes, in Biden's name is tied to his terrible

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's interesting they've really created this separation. This,

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Speaker 2: You know how Kamala wouldn't go to the border and

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Speaker 2: Biden White House as the as the decision maker on

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Speaker 2: immigration and Majorcas as some kind of bureaucratic functionary who's

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Speaker 2: the one really making the calls and it's you know,

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Speaker 2: out of his hands, and you know, you see what

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Speaker 2: I mean. I think they've created enough separation that there's

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Speaker 2: not the political costs associated with the wide open border

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Speaker 2: that there obviously should be for the bide in regime.

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Speaker 2: Yet this alone should disqualify her from running for president

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Speaker 2: as a Republican. Yeah, I think she's bad on immigration.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll just say it, she's bad on the

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Speaker 2: immigration issue, or I should maybe I could rephrase that

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Speaker 2: as I disagree with where she comes down on the

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Speaker 2: immigration issue. I'm sure she's really big on expanding H ONEBVSS.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I'd have to check her campaign website.

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Speaker 2: Everything in the debate is based that I can remember.

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Speaker 2: It's just her and VAVAQ fighting and saying, you know,

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Speaker 2: more or less I hate you. But I think that

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Speaker 2: she is among she's if you're going to be a

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Speaker 2: donor class Republican, you're going to be a chamber of commerce,

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Speaker 2: open borders, you know, Cato Institute kind of libertarian. We

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Speaker 2: are all one world Republican, right, I mean, you're not

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Speaker 2: going to be for secure borders. So that's that's my

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Speaker 2: my sense of it. Now. As for calling them the

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Speaker 2: legal aliens or calling them criminals, they have committed a crime.

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Speaker 2: It's not an awful or a heinous crime. I'm not

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Speaker 2: pretending like it is. But we have laws that are

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Speaker 2: enforced for a reason, and the punishment for being in

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Speaker 2: the country illegally is not to stay in the country

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Speaker 2: but be called an illegal. The punishment is deportation. So

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Speaker 2: this is what I keep if this does not turn

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Speaker 2: into a conversation about and let's speak, if the GOP says,

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Speaker 2: you know what, we don't have the stomach for it. Wait, sorry,

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Speaker 2: we can't deport you know, we'll deport criminals, as in

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Speaker 2: violent criminals, you know, rapist murderers, MS thirteen, hitmen, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: We'll deport them, sure, but we're not just going to

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Speaker 2: de poor people who have lied to our system and

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Speaker 2: are in the country illegally. Well, we should know that,

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Speaker 2: right If that's where the if that's where the countries

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Speaker 2: are going, let's at least have that discussion and make

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Speaker 2: it official, and we can realize that the GOP has

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Speaker 2: been lying about this the whole time, because it's the

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Speaker 2: most straightforward thing. You change the incentives or you will

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Speaker 2: not change the result. And the result is the most

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Speaker 2: illegal immigration we have ever seen in one term of

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Speaker 2: a presidency. That's what's going on right now. So we're

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Speaker 2: Closing up shop on playing Buck for the day. It

504
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Speaker 2: has been so much fun talking to you all this

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Speaker 2: week and starting off the new year with all of you.

506
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Speaker 2: I'll be here tomorrow with you, but so will our

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Speaker 2: man Clay Travis back from Australia. So the duo, the

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Speaker 2: dynamic duo of Clay and Back will be back in

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Speaker 2: effect tomorrow, which'll be uh, which'll be fun. And Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Clay told me something that I was supposed to say.

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Speaker 2: I think it was like, congrats Alabama on the big wind.

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Speaker 2: Does that sound right? I don't know. He's like just

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Speaker 2: tell you. He's like, if you want to talk sports.

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Speaker 2: He gave me like a que card about texted me

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Speaker 2: one about you know, Alabama had some huge come from

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Speaker 2: behind wind. I might be getting this totally wrong. By

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Speaker 2: the way, this is like a week ago, so I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't even really remember now, but roll tide.

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Speaker 2: I guess right, See, I shouldn't do it. This is

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Speaker 2: like tightrope, no net, you know, because I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna get this wrong again and talk

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Speaker 2: about how Major League is about the Atlanta Braves, which

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Speaker 2: it is not. So I'm i gotta keep things, keep

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Speaker 2: things factual and moving here, all right, we have oh

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Speaker 2: oh no, no, no, I wanted to get to this. This

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Speaker 2: is this is always fun, the new Star Wars movie.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a huge Star Wars guy, much more of

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Speaker 2: a Lord of the Rings guy. If you're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: to me about the great epic trilogies. I do love

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Speaker 2: Indiana Jones, which is a trilogy. Because no other movies

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Speaker 2: for Indiana Jones have been made. I pretend the other

532
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Speaker 2: Indiana Jones movies do not exist. That is a good strategy. It,

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Speaker 2: you know, maintains my belief in Indiana Jones is actually

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Speaker 2: a good body of work overall. Anyway, I'm more of

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Speaker 2: a Lord of the Rings guy than a Star Wars guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess I prefer like because I like Game of

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Speaker 2: Thrones a lot too. I prefer fantasy genre like Dungeons

538
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Speaker 2: and Dragons, fantasy genre stuff to the space stuff pretty

539
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 2: much like that. Battlestar Galactica is very good as a show.

540
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 2: The Expanse is very good as a show. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I dabble in both. I gabble in both. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not a big Star Wars or Star Trek guy. Any

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Speaker 2: you team Mike, Star Wars, Star Trek, you big, big

544
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Speaker 2: into either. Yeah, we got some. We got some dabblers. Look,

545
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: it's good stuff. A team in New York, they they

546
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Speaker 2: dabble in some of the stuff. They're they're Disney is

547
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: is not learning the lessons of where wokeness takes you.

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Speaker 2: As you know, we have a snow White project that

549
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Speaker 2: has been delayed, I think another year or something like

550
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Speaker 2: that because there are well snow White is like, yeah,

551
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: it's not about a love story with some guy. It's

552
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Speaker 2: all about girl power something like that. Here is let

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Speaker 2: me see. The new director of the Star Wars franchise

554
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Speaker 2: is a feminist activist, Charmine Obaid Shinoi, who said years ago,

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Speaker 2: this is back in twenty fifteen. She's at the Women

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Speaker 2: in the World Summit. This sounds like a really fun,

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Speaker 2: fun place. Women in the World Summit. And here is

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Speaker 2: what she said. Her goal as a filmmaker is this

559
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Speaker 2: is twenty fifth from twenty fifteen cut twenty six.

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Speaker 8: I like to make men uncomfortable. I enjoy making men uncomfortable, constable.

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Speaker 8: It is important to be able to look into the

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Speaker 8: eyes of a man and say I am here and

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Speaker 8: recognize that, and recognize that I am working to bring

564
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Speaker 8: something that makes you uncomfortable, and it should make you uncomfortable,

565
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Speaker 8: because you need to change your attitude. And it's only

566
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Speaker 8: when you're uncomfortable, when you're shifty, when you have to

567
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Speaker 8: have difficult conversations, that you will perhaps look at yourself

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Speaker 8: in the mirror and not like the reflection and then say,

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Speaker 8: maybe there is something wrong with the way I think,

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Speaker 8: or maybe there is something wrong with the way I

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Speaker 8: am addressing this issue.

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Speaker 2: Man, she seems like a lot of fun, right, That's

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Speaker 2: who I want trying to entertain million and millions of

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Speaker 2: people around the world with stories about you know, space

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Speaker 2: samurai basically, which is kind of what Star Wars is,

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Speaker 2: right with the Jedi and the lightsabers and everything. You know,

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Speaker 2: this is not gonna be a good movie. Folks, It's

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Speaker 2: not gonna be a good movie.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: How can you know? Because I know it's not gonna

581
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Speaker 2: be a good movie. And the recent Star Wars movies

582
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Speaker 2: they I thought they stunk too. And that's why I

583
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: always have to sit here and recite. I don't just

584
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Speaker 2: love movies from the eighties, nineties and early two thousands.

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Speaker 2: It's just that's when they used to make movies to

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Speaker 2: get as many behinds in the seats paying for tickets

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Speaker 2: as possible. And somehow in the last twenty years movies

588
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: have turned into this what this one was? Just give

589
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Speaker 2: me a lecture about how you need to be uncomfortable

590
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: about how the politics of the people writing the checks

591
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: and directing and screenwriting and all the rest of it,

592
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Speaker 2: their politics need to be just just smashed into your

593
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Speaker 2: face all the time, generally by deeply narcissistic and ignorant

594
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Speaker 2: people who don't have any real understanding of how the

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00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 2: world actually functions or works. It's not to entertain you anymore.

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Speaker 2: But now there's something else also. You know, I don't

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Speaker 2: like I don't like keeping secrets from you. I think

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Speaker 2: that it's really important with this audience that I am

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Speaker 2: always upfront with you, and uh, I don't. I don't

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Speaker 2: keep things from you. I mean, I want you to

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Speaker 2: know who I am. I focus on the stories, I

602
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Speaker 2: focus on the news, but I want you to know

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Speaker 2: who you're listening to. And that's why I just think

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Speaker 2: that in the spirit of full disclosure, as we're talking

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Speaker 2: about all this, you should know something. And you know

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Speaker 2: some of you are going to have a tough reaction

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Speaker 2: to this and I and I'm okay with that. But

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Speaker 2: I I have told my wife that I'm willing to

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Speaker 2: watch the barbiey movie with her. I'm what am I

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Speaker 2: gonna do? Guys? It's on Netflix, It's made a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: Wife want wife, he wants to see it. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: have a movie night this weekend. You know, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: hang out with Ginger and stay home one night. And

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Speaker 2: what am I gonna do? I was, She's gonna watch

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Speaker 2: Barbie by herself, you know. I just so I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: tell you the truth. I'm I'm scheduled to watch the

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Speaker 2: Barbie movie. So while I sit here and tell you

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Speaker 2: about all these movies that are that I think are

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Speaker 2: so bad, I'm stepping into the I'm stepping into the thunderdome.

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm going into the lions den of feminist

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Speaker 2: movie making, so to speak. And I'm gonna watch the

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Speaker 2: Barbie Movie with my wife, and I will tell you

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Speaker 2: what I think. I know I'm late to the game,

624
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Speaker 2: but I wasn't gonna pay to see in the theaters.

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Speaker 2: I hate theaters. You know that. Get off my law

626
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Speaker 2: in theaters, you know that. But I am. I'm gonna

627
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Speaker 2: have to say. I can't hide this from you. I'm

628
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Speaker 2: gonna see. I'm gonna watch the Barbie movie, probably this weekend.

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Speaker 2: It might get delayed, but I think it's gonna be

630
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Speaker 2: this weekend, and I'll give you my honest review. And

631
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you this right now. I will I

632
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Speaker 2: will correct myself if this turns out to be not true.

633
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Speaker 2: I think the Barbie movie I'm probably going to find

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Speaker 2: better than Ferrari, which if you had told me that

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Speaker 2: was the case until I saw the Ferrari movie, I

636
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Speaker 2: would have said you were insane. But I think it

637
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Speaker 2: is possible that if you only gave me one and

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Speaker 2: I had no choice, sort of like having my eyeballs

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Speaker 2: removed entirely I think it's likely. I'm gonna tell you

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Speaker 2: Barbie's a better movie than Ferrari, which I haven't even seen. Barbie,

641
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: I haven't even seen it, But I bring you this honesty, Franks.

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Speaker 2: There are no secrets between us, just you and me

643
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Speaker 2: and a few million of our closest buddies, all listening

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Speaker 2: plays back tomorrow, Tucky. Then she'll tie