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Speaker 1: your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and

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Speaker 1: David Hellman. It's Thursday, March the tenth. That means it

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Speaker 1: is once again time for another episode of the Draft Show. Hello,

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Speaker 1: I am David Hellman, like the Big Voice guy said,

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeoman's

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Speaker 1: coming in hot. Hey Kyle, how are you doing? Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: how's it going? Forty nine days? Yeah, and I know

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Speaker 1: that Kyle's usually our draft counter guy, but Adam Schefter

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Speaker 1: tweeted yesterday that at fifty day that's why. That's the

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Speaker 1: only reason why I knew that just give me chills,

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Speaker 1: kind of like how I said when it was March

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Speaker 1: at the Combine and Dane was sitting right there and

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Speaker 1: he's like, I just had a chill go down my spine.

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Speaker 1: That's what That's what forty nine days just to set

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Speaker 1: sneaking up on you are determined to say that name

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Speaker 1: within the first minute of every show, and I come

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Speaker 1: here for it. I'll be honest, I kind of hate it,

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Speaker 1: but at this point we're going to commit to the bit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to you. I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about a few things, but I couldn't help but laugh.

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Speaker 1: So we were having a right after the show on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: we had a content meeting about just everything that's going

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Speaker 1: get in trouble, No, not at all yet. The Draft

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Speaker 1: show is the best thing going on this platform. Are

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Speaker 1: you kidding? No? We were just all right. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about everything we want to do in the build

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Speaker 1: here like, all right, there's some good pro days. We

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Speaker 1: could go to. What's nearby? What are some schools that

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Speaker 1: up like the website where all these dates are listed,

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Speaker 1: already happened. Yeah it happened Wednesday. Arkansas. Has happened yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Nick Benito, let's see how he did it pro day.

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely I'm flabbergasted, Brian, and I think I know

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Speaker 1: Treylan Burke's decided to stand on his combine forty time,

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Speaker 1: Brian's a sucker. He wants them all to be back

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Speaker 1: Then you got Georgia on Wednesdays, the South Carolina's Friday. Jeff, like,

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Speaker 1: Dane and I went to Oklahoma to watch Joe Mixon.

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Speaker 1: Sanders the same way. You know, I just weren't the

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Speaker 1: you might not be as you might not be as

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Speaker 1: I hope this guy's it. I hope That's what I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of learning about. Another pick in this draft by

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Speaker 1: the way, like you think we were forgetting somebody that,

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Speaker 1: I just think to find another page another between our

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Speaker 1: one and two. I thought we need to find another

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Speaker 1: pick because I'm looking at like my corners and my safeties,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what's gonna happen in this

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Speaker 1: me thirty three for what for Amari Cooper's I think

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Speaker 1: that's rich. Actually we have a question about that. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: if I was trying to flip spots, I was trying

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Speaker 1: just trying to use him as a move into two piece.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't trying part of him. Yeah, yeah, you're giving

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Speaker 1: you're you're giving Jacksonville your Amari Cooper and your second

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Speaker 1: I need to actually go figure. I remember that I've

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Speaker 1: got to do the twitter on the twenty drop, but

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Speaker 1: your questions? I teased it in the first segment because

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Speaker 1: Kaide asked the question. He actually he specifically asked about

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Speaker 1: adding an extra three for Amari Cooper. But we can

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Speaker 1: take this wherever you want. He I mean, how would

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Speaker 1: that change your draft strategy? I guess A does it

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Speaker 1: make you feel better about I think what we all

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Speaker 1: agree is something we wouldn't be thrilled about. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: be I guess what do you think a realistic way

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Speaker 1: to get something for him? And Brian you kind of yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did. We did a segment yesterday about it, and

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Speaker 1: I was I was just trying to kind of find

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Speaker 1: some spots, you know, maybe you go some big jumps,

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Speaker 1: some teams that need the Jets were looking. We were

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Speaker 1: talk about Jacksonville, I visit with Jacksonville about a Maury Cooper. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's teams that are looking at him as a possibility

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Speaker 1: where you do trade for him and then you redo

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Speaker 1: the contract. There's people that don't want to fight for

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Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, they don't want to fight. They

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Speaker 1: don't want him to get released, and then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden it turns into a fight and we have

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Speaker 1: to overpay and all. Yeah, so the bidding war. They

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Speaker 1: want to avoid that. So I was trying to kind

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Speaker 1: of find some spots, and I think my history of

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Speaker 1: doing this and when chum in the water is sometimes

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Speaker 1: you could get people interested if you say, listen, we'll

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Speaker 1: still let you pick in the round. You don't have

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Speaker 1: to give us the pick. Here's the player. Let us

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Speaker 1: come to your spot. So if you want to go

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Speaker 1: up six falls to fifty six and Jackson, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get you get Amari Cooper, you're still picking in

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Speaker 1: the second and then and then here we go. We

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Speaker 1: saw yesterday with the deal with Carson Wentz, Washington and

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Speaker 1: Indie flop picks in the second round is what they did.

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Speaker 1: So now Indie comes up, Washington goes down, you get

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Speaker 1: the player and all that. So I'm just trying to

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Speaker 1: make it is. I'm trying to I'm trying to create

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Speaker 1: an opportunity here, because sometimes you say, hey, we want

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Speaker 1: a two for the guy or a three for the guy.

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Speaker 1: Teams will balk at that. They're like, no, we're not

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Speaker 1: interested in doing that. But if you say, listen, I'll

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Speaker 1: let you have the player. Just let me, let me

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Speaker 1: have the difference in the spots. That is such a

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Speaker 1: great place to be though, And thirty three is like

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Speaker 1: your favorite pick in the draft. It is. It absolutely

536
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Speaker 1: to hang out on Thursday night and field calls used

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Speaker 1: to it used to be when the draft just kind

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Speaker 1: of went on, you just kind of rolled in. But

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Speaker 1: then the next day, when you we have the way

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Speaker 1: television does the draft, now we talk about at day one,

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Speaker 1: then what do we do to end that first night

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Speaker 1: of the draft? Who are the best players you got available?

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Speaker 1: That's the last thing you're gonna ask Jeff, You're gonna

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Speaker 1: ask me, ask Kyle, yes day whoever you're gonna ask.

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Speaker 1: And you say, who do you got left? I still

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Speaker 1: got a first round guy on the board. I still

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Speaker 1: got you know, And so teams could reset their board.

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Speaker 1: But I was like, it's funny, what Jeff was saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, think about picking at twenty four and then

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Speaker 1: picking again at thirty three. I like that. That to me, See,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the thing that he was just talking about,

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Speaker 1: that you can knock out a couple of different positions quick.

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Speaker 1: Just looking at fifty six. Some names of a couple

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Speaker 1: mock drafts around here. Travis Jones, that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be early on. It's not gonna happen, though.

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Speaker 1: Drake Jackson we just mentioned him from USC Cameron Thomas

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Speaker 1: from San Diego State, David Belle, Isaiah Spiller. I know

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Speaker 1: all these are all just names out every person you've

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Speaker 1: named exactly, but then you go up to thirty three

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Speaker 1: and you've got Trent McDuffie, Davis Daxton Hill, Yeah, Jaquon Brisker.

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Speaker 1: That's what Dan picking. That's what Dane did last night

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Speaker 1: when Jeff and I were on a show on his channel,

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Speaker 1: we talked about that, and I truly I'm like Dane,

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear Das Hill. And then sure enough thirty right,

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Speaker 1: and so then now I'm thinking, okay, if you could

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Speaker 1: get to Jacksonville's pick, and all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: knock out, you get, say for Jeff, you get the guard,

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Speaker 1: you get Zion Johnson, and then you turn around and

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Speaker 1: you get my Das Hill. Now we're now we're having

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Speaker 1: a draft. How realistic do you think that is? What

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Speaker 1: to try and trade that you're proposed trade. I'm just trying, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm just doing everything. I think it's realistically. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I tried. I've tried it a couple different spots. I

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Speaker 1: even made a little small move. I went to I

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Speaker 1: went to New England just to try and get up

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Speaker 1: four or five spots. You know, go from say, go

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Speaker 1: from twenty four to twenty one kind of a thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, what you want to do is you want

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Speaker 1: to target the teams that have money, like the like

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Speaker 1: the Jets. You want to target Jacksonville. You know, teams

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Speaker 1: that have like young quarterbacks that could maybe use a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver that you know it's got some skill. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the spirit of Kaid's question, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I feel since you want the extra pick so bad, yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you, let's just hypothetically say, um, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: throw a pick out there. The number doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, for the spirit of this exercise,

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Speaker 1: Miami gives you pick eighty one for Marii Cooper. So

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Speaker 1: now that was one of the teams I talked about

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Speaker 1: in the third round. So yeah, it's a third round pick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Michael Gallup pick. Yeah, so you get an extra three. Yep,

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Speaker 1: you've got four picks in the top one hundred, but

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Speaker 1: you don't have Amari Cooper. Okay, how does that change

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Speaker 1: your thought process on what you want to do here?

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Speaker 1: And y'all can answer this too. I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's just a bonus pick because I think by the

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Speaker 1: time you got to if you get pick eighty one,

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Speaker 1: I think by the time you got there, you've already

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Speaker 1: used a pick that is to quote replace Samari Cooper. Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna get to the eighty fig

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Speaker 1: and not that might be your that might be if

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Speaker 1: you're thinking about the tight end, that's your Jeremy Rucker pick,

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Speaker 1: the Ohio State tight end. If a Maria Cooper is

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Speaker 1: not on this team in a week, you basically think

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Speaker 1: it's a lock that either pick twenty four or pick

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Speaker 1: fifty six. As a receiver, I would I would lock

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Speaker 1: it in. I think either one of those where unless

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Speaker 1: you get, unless you get one of those scenarios where

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Speaker 1: something falls that you weren't expecting, it's like crap, we

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Speaker 1: gotta take him, we gotta take a point to take him.

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Speaker 1: You always got to keep the draft board open. We've

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Speaker 1: heard that time end, time out. But if you're if

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Speaker 1: your draft for need at wide receiver at twenty four,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not there, but I think at fifty six

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Speaker 1: you're still going to have names that are in that

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Speaker 1: wide receiver class. Yeah that maybe, like you said, damaged

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Speaker 1: goods previously, or maybe you have a couple question marks

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Speaker 1: on them that could be where you take that receivers

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Speaker 1: at twenty four could be your pick. Sure, And if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, now you focus in on the other

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Speaker 1: things you focus in on, maybe that guard, you focus

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Speaker 1: in on, maybe the safety. Maybe there might be somebody

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Speaker 1: you like there at the win of those spots. I

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Speaker 1: just think and we depending on what happens at safety.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get all your safety st I mean

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Speaker 1: there's so many again three on the marketing maddening trying

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Speaker 1: to put a mock draft together before any of this

628
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Speaker 1: stuff happens. Because we know that the list of needs

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Speaker 1: is going to drastically shift in the next two weeks.

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Speaker 1: All the Safeties are going between twenty four and fifty six.

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Speaker 1: That even with Amary Cooper and the thought process of

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Speaker 1: trading him for a pick, you would still have to

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Speaker 1: do it within the next couple of weeks, right, you see,

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Speaker 1: you can't necessarily wait until Draft night and no, no, no,

635
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Speaker 1: you've got to duel. You've gotta whatever you're gonna do

636
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: with a Mara, you've got to do by like March twenties,

637
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: say March twenty, next couple of weeks if they at

638
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: least weird whatever that is. Brian and I had a

639
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: really quiet conversation. All you guys were going, and I

640
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: wonder if we could pull that off on the Draft

641
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: show where you guys talk, and then Brian and I

642
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: just kind of sneak some things in. I'm sorry, that's

643
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: really disrespectful on my part. I just was curiously because

644
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: we get to the class. Brian, well, you know that's

645
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: all safeties are going to be gone. That's what that

646
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: was fascinating to me. And I asked, I've seen Brian cook, yes,

647
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: and so yeah, we won't be gone. Yeah, So that's

648
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, though, I mean, I was saying, because see,

649
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 1: I've got Brian Cook as a third round safety. That's

650
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: why I was kind of gauging where he was at. Yeah, yeah,

651
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: we could take a third round safe to fifty six

652
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: Brian Cook at Cincinnati and Kirbye Joseph at Illinois. There's

653
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: my third round, guys, Kirbie Joseph. Not a wonderful combine. No,

654
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: I know, we don't necessarily care about that. I didn't

655
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: even see his comment. I would assume he didn't run well,

656
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: and I assume he didn't jump well. He just yeah,

657
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: the numbers were not great. We take a peek at him.

658
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: Jamie wants to know what would a one to our buddy.

659
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: Jamie leads James, Oh wow, what's up bud? Our buddies

660
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: over to see what would want to do? What would

661
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: a one two offensive line double dip look like? Is

662
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: that even a good idea? Uh? The ideal double dip

663
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: I would think would involve lender Bamb because linder Bamb

664
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: and a guard. Yeah, Linderbamb and then a guard. Remake

665
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing and in two picks. I wonder what

666
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: the cowboys so like Tyler Linderbaum the Iowa Center in

667
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: the first and then at Ingram LSU's guard in the second. Yeah,

668
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: you could probably talk about Ingram Canard would be like

669
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: because he's such a big old lumbering man, you know,

670
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I like him. That's kind of that's kinds

671
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: that's a bunch of big, kind of lumbering guys in

672
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: this thing. I mean, you know, I mean the thing.

673
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what really is going to happen

674
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: with Green? You know, he was he was kind of

675
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: the funny and thirty fun He was kind of the

676
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: flavor of the month for everybody. You think, do you

677
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: think his combine Kenyon Green? Yeah, Kenyan Green, his combine

678
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: hurt him that much. I'll tell you what people are,

679
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: what people I don't. People are questioning the athletic ability,

680
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: don't you think? I think you could have flipped him

681
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: and Zion Johnson for teams if you like, if you

682
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: were like me, and everyone's not, because that would be

683
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: a terrible thing to be. But if you're like me,

684
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: you really liked both of them. And when one test

685
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: is an elite athlete and one tests very average, not wrong,

686
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: it's not impossible to flip them. I did Zion Johnson

687
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: is guard one for me now, and Kenyan Green is

688
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 1: number two. You said that more confidently than you did

689
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Yeah, you have to sit with these things,

690
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, you have to meditate on it. Dane hit

691
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: him with a bull on it. Yeah, Dane hit me

692
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: with a break. Dane said, you're a stupid changer. No,

693
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: but it was a question that we asked last. I

694
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: asked him. I was just like wrong, he wasn't. Yeah,

695
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: teams will, teams will. Yeah, he's not wrong. Magneto, Kyle,

696
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: you take this one a Magneto. Yeah, Magneto, you weren't

697
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: here for that. Oh yeah, he got a question from Magneto.

698
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: Oh did we You don't read? You don't You didn't

699
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: watch the X Men as a kid. Oh you're so young, young,

700
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: you're so young. I'm sorry you didn't see the movies. No,

701
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: my god, not only are you young, but you're not

702
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: a dork. So good for you. That's I mean, I'm

703
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: still a dork. But Magneto got it. Now. How do

704
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: you how do you rank the trio of Traylan Burks,

705
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, and Chris olave Stack those tags put them

706
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 1: in order already that was a good question. You put

707
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: him an order you did. Honestly, we all day it again.

708
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Say it again. I Traylan Burks, Jamison Williams, Chris Olabba. Yeah,

709
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: that's my three. I went with Williams, Burks, O love

710
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: is how I went it, even with the injury. The

711
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: injury is the only thing that I'm watching. I ain't.

712
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: I think. I think the kid's gonna come back just fine.

713
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm okay with that. I'm not letting an ACL two

714
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: A cls don't matter. I think Jamison Williams is one

715
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: of the most special talents in this Jeff, and again,

716
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: these are the conversations you have when you do different

717
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: podcasts and things like that. Is that all of a

718
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: sudden that all these guys like Jamison Williams and the

719
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 1: guys end up in Tampa, all the really good teams,

720
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: chief seriously, chiefs, everybody in the back of the draft,

721
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, who's on the board. Oh that Jamison.

722
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Just like three minutes they hand the card in. They

723
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: don't even wait, they just like hand the card in.

724
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: I think that's what I'm saying is all these players

725
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: that were highly touted and they're kind of nicked up

726
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now all of a sudden, teams are

727
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: just waiting like like we were doing a thing again

728
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: last night, the whole thing about this. Uh, Dane was

729
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: talking about his mock draft and he goes, and he

730
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: and Jeff goes. The Ravens take Jordan Davis. I'm like,

731
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: of course the Ravens take Jordan. Of course they do.

732
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: The Ravens always take Jordan Davis. See it's every draft,

733
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: these teams and just some of these players just automatically

734
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: that's a perfect pick for the Ravens. And then Ravens

735
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 1: are on the clock who they picked the perfect, perfect player.

736
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah you think there are teams that overthink this stuff.

737
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely hell, yes, you think this is one of them.

738
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: With the Ravens are up the Cowboys that overthink. I

739
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: think they've gotten better at this though, because because because

740
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: because they trust their stack, they trust the stack. They

741
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: are like, listen, we put that guy up there for

742
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: a reason. They used to not be that way. Okay,

743
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: talk to me about this is the possibility of starting

744
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: his career on pup. The only thing pushing Jamison Williams

745
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: down the board because I just I might be I

746
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: watched the guy and I think he's the top twenty player.

747
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an idiot, but that's just what I've seen.

748
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: You're spot on every time the ball. I mean, you

749
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: could watch those Alabama. It's amazing about Alabama. You think,

750
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: what's a team that's as tough as they are. They

751
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: put out some receivers in this thing. You know, they

752
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: put some guys out and it's like and you watch

753
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: them play. I mean seriously, they throw them the ball

754
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: and every time it's just run after catch, run after kats,

755
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: kind of like watching Woods watching CD. You know when

756
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: he was playing Okaya, run after catch, run after catch,

757
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: trying run that dude on Crossers every down. He's one

758
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy nine pounds, but pushing him down is

759
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: Have you seen Garrett Wilson play, Yeah, seen Trailing Burke's play. Yeah,

760
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: You've seen Drake London play. Like it's just gonna be

761
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: what order of the receivers are we That's the problem.

762
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: That's the problem, because every not the problem. It's a

763
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: good thing because I think everybody sees these guys differently

764
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: and that's cool, and that's and it's all going to

765
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: be at the end when we're all watching games in

766
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: Week seven and somebody tweets Atison says, I told Jeff

767
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: was right about that. Scar More. You know, that's the

768
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: kind of stuff's gonna be right about that, Scott Moore,

769
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm just being nice. I was just being nice to you.

770
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: But but the thing about it is that's kind of

771
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: what happens. We see it all the time, don't we.

772
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: Absolutely and well, in the last two drafts, and you

773
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: talked about Alabama receivers, two of the first three picks

774
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: in the or two of the first three tight end

775
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: or wide receivers rather in the last two drafts have

776
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: been from Alabama. The only guy that has broken that

777
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: up was Jamar Chase, and I mean Jalen Wattle. You

778
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: had Davante Smith, Henry Ruggs, Jerry Judy. Are we as

779
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: excited though about this draft class as we were about

780
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,799
Speaker 1: those two receivers class, Because even with all these guys

781
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: and the different ice cream flavors that you're going to

782
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 1: have with all these wide receivers, I still feel like

783
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not as high. I don't guy, I don't have

784
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: a two draft, I don't have a chase up there.

785
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't have a chase up there, I've got some

786
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: I've got some really good players. I got some really

787
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: good players, especially with Burkes and Wilson. I think a lave.

788
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: My love for a lava is emense. But I mean

789
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,919
Speaker 1: I don't have a chase up there or ceedee lamb.

790
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I just don't. Mike says, Mike wants us to talk

791
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: about um Dax Hill. We've talked about him before, but

792
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: specifically talk to me about his versatility, like how many hats?

793
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: How many hats do you think this guy can wear?

794
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: And two hats? A lot of them? All right, Well,

795
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: fight he can play the nickel corner if you need

796
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: him too, and he can play safety. I think that's

797
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: the best thing he has going for him is that

798
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: he's a very capable go cover the slot and play

799
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: man coverage. He's very capable played half the field and

800
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: come tackle. I think he's a very capable go stand

801
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: way back there and play free safety. So that's not

802
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: two hats. I guess he could be a half field safety,

803
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: could be a deep safety, center field, be in the box. Kyle,

804
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: talk to me about this because I think Mike is

805
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: I think Mike is looking and I think the Cowboys

806
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: have a great shot at resigning jay Ron Curse, which

807
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: is rare. I don't know that I would say that

808
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: about But we're purning. Are we printing money now up there?

809
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 1: I just I think obviously we are. I don't feel

810
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: confident about a lot of guys coming back, but he's

811
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: one of them that I think will. But anyway, well,

812
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: Michigan showed you the hats the Dexton Hill can wear

813
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: because the games that I watched, if a team has

814
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: two wide receivers, Dexton Hill is a safety. If a

815
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: team has three or more receivers, Dexton Hill play slot.

816
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: That's it. That's that's where he goes to. So he

817
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: can do a lot of that stuff that we saw

818
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: from Curse. Oh, Dan Quinn's going to love that version.

819
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: He's a smaller version. Everybody in the league is a

820
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: smaller version of jay Ron. That's a good point. But

821
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: you also could pare the two together and you imagine

822
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: the possibilities that you would have in terms of those

823
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: two back in fourth Now, the majority of the time,

824
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: Curse is probably gonna be in the box and he's

825
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: probably gonna cover those big tight ends. But however you

826
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: want to shift it. I think dan Quinn's gonna have

827
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: his eye on Hill. He would be one of those guys.

828
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: I would imagine him standing on the table for when

829
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: draft day comes around, if somehow the Cowboys have a

830
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: shot at him. I think they would at twenty four,

831
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: but I think we were talking Brian scenario of trying

832
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 1: to go up to thirty three, thirty four, thirty five

833
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: to try and get him in the second. I'll tell

834
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: you the thing. When I in December, when I started

835
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: this journey and I watched this player, it was him.

836
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: I thought this was Dallas's pick. I went through several guys,

837
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 1: you know, all those defense you don't think that's likely anymore.

838
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: They'll just there'll be better value. Well, they all of

839
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: a sudden it became what's happening in a guard, what's

840
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: happening in at center, what's happening at wide receiver? What's

841
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: happening it? You know, in December, I just I just

842
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: guess how much there? I just thought I just thought

843
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: I'd go, man, this guy, this guy is not Jeff's

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Speaker 1: right about he does he's you know, he's six foot,

845
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Speaker 1: he's one hundred and ninety something pounds. The guy's a

846
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: hell of a football player. I mean he tackles, he covered.

847
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: So I was watching play, I'm thinking that's Dallas's pick

848
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: at twenty four and that was that was in December.

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00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: Real quick, before we take our second break, Maurice wants

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Speaker 1: segment about tight ends on Tuesday, but we did not

852
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: talk about Virginia's Jelaney Woods. Jeff, I heard you had

853
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: somewhat of an interesting scouting report. I have not completely

854
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: studied him, but I have seen him multiple times and

855
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite college football players because I

856
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: compare him too. And this isn't gonna work, so it's

857
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: a different professional team. But the Mavericks have a young

858
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: player that every time he's in it's highly entertaining, whether

859
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: the ball goes in, whether that's he plays good defense, whatever,

860
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: it's highly entertaining. And Johnny Woods is over sixty seven

861
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: and I think he's like two hundred and forty pounds,

862
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: so it kind of looks like a giraffe running around

863
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 1: with a bunch of six foot tall people and so,

864
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: but the giraffe is very strong and aggressive, but sometimes

865
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: doesn't look totally coordinated. So if you told me Hey,

866
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: the fourth round of the draft is starting, maybe even

867
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: the fifth round, and you're interested in a tight end

868
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: prospect with a bunch of upside where it's like, look,

869
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: watch him catch the ball and it all looks kind

870
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: of weird, but man does it kind of work and

871
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: he's like running through tackles. But it's this guy that is,

872
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, he's five inches over all the people trying

873
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: to tackle him, and it all just looks incredibly funny.

874
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,479
Speaker 1: But he's interesting. Charlie. Charlie. Kohler's that way a little

875
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,439
Speaker 1: bit for me too. He's a big guy too, six seven, Yeah,

876
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: I mean it's kind of like kind of like, you know,

877
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 1: like he's gonna fall over. But then but then he's

878
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: like Jeff's talking about these guys. They're six seven and

879
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: they reach up and they just and they're they're so

880
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: much taller than everybody else that they make plays and

881
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 1: it's funny how they make plays, and they do it

882
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: a lot just because of the length. I was looking

883
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: up a Kohler at the other day. Apparently he's really

884
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: good off the field too, like did a ton of

885
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: community service at Iowa State, did a lot of that

886
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: on field stuff. Of course, but he asked. He's got

887
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: a lot of that complete picture that teams are gonna

888
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: like and maybe try and push him up a little bit.

889
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: You don't get to hear about that, a whole lot

890
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: that extra good side of the off the field stuff

891
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: rights A CENCINAI Bengals, We really don't care about that

892
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 1: very much. Like can he play? I don't really care.

893
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw it. He can kick puppies

894
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: in his free time as long as he can play. Oh,

895
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,120
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Speaker 1: right yep? Yeah, We've got Cowboys Blitz coming up. You

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Speaker 1: missed doing the blitz, Brian? Is this a draft version

942
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Speaker 1: of it where we start breaking down guys? Do the

943
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944
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945
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946
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Speaker 1: coat and tie that used to keep in your closet?

947
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Speaker 1: They'll do yeah with your knocking up. I mean I

948
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949
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,080
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Speaker 1: my Ricos. You don't have the pickled hallepenos now sitting

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952
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953
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Speaker 1: Oh god, that was funny? All right? I want to

954
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Speaker 1: we we went along? Why do we miss? Why do

955
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956
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Speaker 1: Is this the one I did? With the one we did?

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Speaker 1: Come on beam? I watch every once in a while,

958
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Speaker 1: the draft one, the one with you, Yeah, the one

959
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960
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Speaker 1: was that was? That was one of my We got

961
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: nominated for a local Emmy for that. Did we? I

962
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: was really disappointed that we didn't win. I wanted to

963
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Speaker 1: get one for Kaden Gates. He put so much work

964
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Speaker 1: and that was a great on our listeners do not

965
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Speaker 1: care about this, uh no, But I wanted to continue.

966
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Speaker 1: I want to do a couple of years now, listeners

967
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Speaker 1: think you matter. I want to do a couple things

968
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Speaker 1: in the last few minutes. I wanted that. Yeah, I

969
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: hate y'all exactly. Look, Kyle, I'm just I'm watching. I

970
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: took over hosting this year and I have a I mean,

971
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Speaker 1: I respect you regardless, but I have a new level

972
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: of respect. Thank you wrangling these two mont regrets. And

973
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: last year it was even more Last year it was

974
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: last year was Dane and Bucky and Katie on top.

975
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: It was a different crew every time, and I couldn't

976
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: remember what we talked about each week. That sounds awesome.

977
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Speaker 1: Kudos to you. My friend nicks Man, talk to me

978
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: about and this is tricky because it's it's edge rusher

979
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: and these guys get overdrafted. I get it. Talk to

980
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: me about day two guys at that position. Talk. I mean,

981
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: we went over some of these names, the Minnesota kid,

982
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Drake Jackson. Just just talk me through some of these

983
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: guys that maybe you like and maybe you don't like,

984
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: just to give me a clearer idea of what we're

985
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,479
Speaker 1: looking at at this position. Gosh, I think it's tough

986
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: because I think I'm probably lower on a lot of

987
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 1: these guys than where they're going to get drafted. So

988
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: like Penn State's Ebiketty, maybe he sneaks Katie Katie, maybe

989
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: he sneaks into the first round. Just say the team school,

990
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: I've Penn State guy. Just leave the name to this side,

991
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: Penn State guy, one of those stand up, good athlete

992
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: pass rushers. That to me, it's like, sure, I'd pick

993
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: him maybe at fifty six, and he'll go at like

994
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: thirty five and Nigbare the South Carolina defensive end. Would

995
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: I take him at fifty six? Maybe he'll go before that.

996
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: And then you get down to jijii J. You mentioned

997
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: j Sanders. It's almost like the Jay's on the feet.

998
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: It's how he explained it to me. He's two hundred

999
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: and twenty eight pounds and six to five. Like he's

1000
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: like a smaller version and less athletic Randy Gregory. Yeah,

1001
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: apparently that is a Day two edge. And I'm just

1002
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: I'm watching the Day two guys and I'm like, oh gosh,

1003
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Speaker 1: I just don't trust any of these time. I was

1004
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: a little surprised. I thought his athleticism was there to

1005
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: a certain extent, But you're right, less athletic than a

1006
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. But he's still a guy who could develop

1007
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: into a role very similar to that. And you saw

1008
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: it in senior role in Mobile. You saw it a

1009
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: little bit in the Combine. But his tape is really

1010
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: where I like my JA a lot. And by saying

1011
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Speaker 1: a lot, I mean fifty six would be right where

1012
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: I would pick him. Honestly, I don't think he's a

1013
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: first round guy. I don't think he's an early second.

1014
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 1: He's that middle of the second, maybe back half. But

1015
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: he's a good player. What's amazing about him is he's

1016
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: a two hundred and twenty eight pound player. Yeah, and

1017
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: you actually see him play pretty strong, which you know

1018
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: because of the lead and things like that. I mean

1019
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, you don't see him like because you

1020
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Speaker 1: worry about bulk sometimes with defensive ends, but you don't

1021
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: see him getting knocked off the line all that much.

1022
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Speaker 1: I was pretty impressed with him by that. I'm like, ky,

1023
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Speaker 1: this guy's super thin and but you know, he'll The

1024
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Speaker 1: thing that kind of struck me a little bit about

1025
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Speaker 1: him in a kind of negative way is that, you know,

1026
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Speaker 1: when when you look at him in those situations of

1027
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Speaker 1: having to play the run and the way he's able

1028
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Speaker 1: to get off. I think the thing I really really

1029
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1030
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Speaker 1: This guy can really cover some ground. I mean when

1031
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Speaker 1: you're talking about running and chasing and things like that,

1032
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean he can make that. He can make it

1033
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Speaker 1: happen rushing the pastor because you don't see him get

1034
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: really deep. Sometimes these lighter guys run so fast, so

1035
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: far up the field they can't get back to get

1036
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: in on the quarterback. This kid has a pretty good

1037
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: feel of how to get to that level in the

1038
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: pocket where the quarterback is. So I'm interested. But man,

1039
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Speaker 1: some people will probably not like it. The fact that

1040
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Speaker 1: he's two hundred and twenty eight pounds. He's that quick,

1041
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: that would be a problem. He's got that quick first

1042
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: step too. I like his get off. I like the

1043
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: first step. He's got that short area quickness. But like

1044
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: you said, if he's relying on his strength and his power,

1045
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: he's not gonna get blown off the ball. But he's

1046
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: also not gonna blow anybody off the ball. You know.

1047
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Speaker 1: It's funny. In my notes, and I don't have a

1048
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Speaker 1: date when I did this about Maffe from Minnesota. The

1049
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Speaker 1: last line I typed in my notes was I don't

1050
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: know why folks are not talking about him more, which,

1051
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Speaker 1: to be very honest, and and and I know is

1052
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: the first time I've heard the guy's name. Yeah, that's

1053
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: on me seriously, And I'm you know, I says, hey,

1054
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: he plays, I go this. He generally plays the open

1055
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: or weak side of the formation, so he doesn't have

1056
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: somebody always in his face. But man, you watch him

1057
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: run and burst and close. I mean, there's all these

1058
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: things he could finish, he could tackle. He makes a

1059
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: lot of plays when he has to run guys down

1060
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 1: from the back side, and that's playing on the open side.

1061
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: He could just fly to this to the ball and

1062
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: I kind of, I said, in his hands and he

1063
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't to let blockers get in on him. So again,

1064
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: I did this report my notes a while back on him,

1065
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: and I just didn't know why we weren't talking to him.

1066
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see that people are kind of the testing.

1067
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: It obviously was before the combine, because the testing numbers

1068
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: came in really really big, And people now, I guess,

1069
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: are talking about him as a potential first round guy.

1070
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: I have him in the second round myself. I didn't

1071
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: have him as a first round guy. I think the

1072
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: reason why I'm harping on this, and it's obviously impossible

1073
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: to predict, but we know what's going on with Amari.

1074
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: We know receiver is an issue here, we know tight end,

1075
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: we know all about the offensive line, but like so

1076
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: the defensive end edge rush sneaky stands to be terrifying. Yeah, yea,

1077
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: we don't know what they're gonna do with Tank. It

1078
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: certainly sound there there's a contract dispute there. Armstrong, I think,

1079
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: much like m Dalton Schultz before he got tagged, Cedric

1080
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: Wilson for that matter, I think Dorrin's Armstrong is going

1081
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: to get a deal that kind of should showed more consistency.

1082
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: He used to be a guy that would play one

1083
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: game and then he would be gone for three. He

1084
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: played a lot better more consistently. I think he only

1085
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: had one fewer sack than Randy for all we talk

1086
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: about Randy Wow, whatever that's worth. And then and then

1087
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: there's Randy who I think the Cowboys are optimistic about

1088
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: what will happen, but they can't tag him, so he's

1089
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: going to hit free agency, and then who the hell

1090
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: knows what happens, And so you could be sitting here

1091
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: in a week and a half with DeMarcus Lawrence, who

1092
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 1: they're in a contract dispute with, and like Terrell Basham,

1093
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: and not a whole lot else, Like do you feel

1094
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: do you feel good about the prospect of addressing this

1095
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: with a meaningful pick this year? I think either way

1096
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: you're gonna leave out a position. I mean, you could

1097
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: look at your first two picks and you're gonna say, hey,

1098
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: we need a wide receiver right because of what's happening

1099
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: with a Maria, we need an offensive lineman in the

1100
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: interior to reboot what's going on there. At some point,

1101
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: something will be left out. Edge rusher will be left out,

1102
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: interior offensive line is going to be left out. Wide

1103
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: receiver is going to be left out. Now it's up

1104
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: to you to basically, it's the opposite of what the problem,

1105
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: the good problem has been the last couple of years

1106
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: of you've addressed these Now you can attack your board

1107
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: best player available. Now you have so many holes you

1108
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: have to address best player available, because that's how you

1109
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: fill those holes the right way. See that's you paint

1110
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 1: to me a very dangerous situation with what you talked

1111
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: about with these defensive ends. Because when this team has

1112
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: gotten in trouble, it's because they've tried to force some picks.

1113
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: And this is where I have this with the Jobo thing.

1114
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: You know, I just in my mind, could he be

1115
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: a great player? Yeah, he's just not very He hasn't

1116
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 1: had a lot of reps at it. You know, He's

1117
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 1: got the physical traits and the characteristics and everything you like,

1118
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: just not a lot of time at task. And so

1119
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: now I worry about them saying, well, man, we've got

1120
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: to have a defensive end like it say it does

1121
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: fall apart, say things with Tank falls apart, say things

1122
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 1: with Brandy doesn't get completely done like it needs to be.

1123
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: Now you're in a situation where you're going, well, who

1124
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: are defensive ends? And then it turns in do you

1125
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: have to draft a guy like Taco or somebody like that?

1126
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: We're or or not Taco but our other guy from

1127
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: Michigan that the Cowboys picked, Uh Taco talking. I was

1128
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: thinking Hill. I was thinking Hill. I was thinking Hill though,

1129
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: but Taco. Yeah, Tristan Hill was another but he was

1130
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle. But the same thing, you know, the

1131
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 1: same thing where you're like, man, they're forced to have

1132
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: to go try and take this and where they've been

1133
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: really good the last couple of years, especially in the

1134
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: first round, He's just taking the best player on their board.

1135
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: And that scares me a little bit right now, especially

1136
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: about a player that that I that I know I

1137
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: have some questions about. Yeah, which and I'm sure they

1138
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: would say Micah Parsons is a piece of that puzzle.

1139
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to move him full time

1140
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,479
Speaker 1: to defensive end, but he obviously provides pass rush. Still

1141
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: not enough to make me feel great about that. You either,

1142
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta come to some sort of like

1143
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: you got gonna sell us on Goldston and people like

1144
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: that they're gonna try. I mean, Ghoston is a good player.

1145
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: I just think he started off pretty well and then

1146
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: kind of faded on him a little bit. Yeah, so

1147
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: he's a rookie, I thought. I think for all the

1148
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: good that he did, I think Osa had a very

1149
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: similar rookie year if you go look at his production

1150
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: weeks one to six Verse Scout War down season. Yeah,

1151
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: it happens. I just think I'm terrified about what it

1152
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: might make them do in the draft if Tank Tank

1153
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: or Randy is gone, especially if both of them or

1154
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: some reason gone. Like if they're not in the plans

1155
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty two, I think it leads to you

1156
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: doing something reckless and you're trying to tank at that point. No,

1157
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. I would feel a hell

1158
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: of a lot better if you told me Karloftis could

1159
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: be there at twenty four. That would help. That seems

1160
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: like the most real man. I'll tell you what I mean.

1161
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: You're starting to see him anywhere between sixteen and thirty.

1162
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: You know, he's one of the there's several guys greens

1163
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: that way. I mean, there's a lot the cowboys. It's

1164
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna sound I don't mean to see bad way, but

1165
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: the player that they probably take is going to have

1166
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: some deficiencies to their game. They're gonna be good players,

1167
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: really good players, I think, but there's going to be

1168
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: something that's going to put them at that spot. Like

1169
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: we look at the linebacker. Okay, the kid from Georgia.

1170
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: He's short, he's five to eleven. You look at Lloyd

1171
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: and he didn't run particularly well, but you watch the

1172
00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: tape and he runs really well. I mean, I love

1173
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: both those players. You know, the center, we we've talked

1174
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: Jeff and I and Dane last night we're talking about

1175
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: I've never seen a player like Linderbaum that has more

1176
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: deficiencies to his game that plays as well as he does.

1177
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: He's short armed, he's a small guy, you know, height wise,

1178
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: and he's not very big weight wise, but he but

1179
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: he makes it work. You know, there's there's there's going

1180
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: to be somebody that has some flaw, you know, Karloptus

1181
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: could be the situation with the arms, you know, like

1182
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: the arm length and stuff like that, that could be

1183
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: a problem, or athletic ability. But these are really really

1184
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,439
Speaker 1: good players. And if you're taking him at twenty four

1185
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: and then you want to address what where do you

1186
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 1: go next? That's the other thing is that it might

1187
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: be point wide receiver, So then where do you go

1188
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: offensive line? That's when all of a sudden, you need

1189
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: to watch all these guys that are playing like tackle

1190
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: right now, the Ohio States guy and UCLA and all

1191
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: that those are all your third round those third round guys,

1192
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: and maybe swing over and Kid May's could be in

1193
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: that conversation out of Tennessee. I'm not gonna sell anybody

1194
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: that they will be exciting names, but they will add

1195
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: guys they always do. That's this conversation is going to

1196
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: change here, probably not over the next week, because the

1197
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't dip into the expensive part of free agency

1198
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: here in in in two two, three weeks, we will

1199
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: have a better idea of like what they don't think

1200
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: they need versus what they do things. I feel like

1201
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: by next Thursday we might have a decent idea. By

1202
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: next Thursday we will know what's going on with a

1203
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: lot of their guys. That's a good point. But in

1204
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: terms of bringing in outside talent, I think the weight

1205
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: goes a little bit longer, a lot longer. Yeah, we'll see.

1206
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: We're we're just slowly marching our way through the draft process.

1207
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: That does it for this week. Jeff, you want to

1208
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: bring up sky Moore, just keep twenty four for sky More.

1209
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: I think half of our listeners are going to hate

1210
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,919
Speaker 1: this bit and the other half you're gonna I see

1211
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: one thing real quick. If for Brian, there you go.

1212
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: If you he doesn't like Zion, no, I mean I

1213
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: haven't ye know, I have a couple guys right ahead.

1214
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: You got the The thing about it is, if you're

1215
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: doing mock drafts and you're sending them to us, just

1216
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: don't do it. Because we're talking about the guys that

1217
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: we like them. Do them because you like them, do

1218
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: them where you think this, And because I'm seeing a

1219
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: lot of mock drafts that kind of kind of mirror

1220
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. That's what I'm saying. And I'm

1221
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 1: saying the same thing too. There's a lot if you know,

1222
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: when you're doing these mock drafts, you're gonna send him

1223
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: to me, and you think I'm gonna say, oh, that's

1224
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: a great mock draft, I'm probably gonna point out something

1225
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 1: that you missed or something like that. So I'm just

1226
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: giving you guys a little heads up. You're a tastemaker, Brian.

1227
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 1: It's just all there is. Pick all the guys I like,

1228
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you you did good. You don't even

1229
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: look at the mock drafts. What are you talking about?

1230
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: You get tagged, gagged and all. They've got millions more

1231
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: mock drafts to do. We've got do your own mock draft.

1232
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 1: Ord knows how many episodes of the Draft Show left,

1233
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 1: but that concludes another week of this coverage. We appreciate

1234
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,080
Speaker 1: you listening for Kyle, Brian, Jeff, I'm Dave We'll be

1235
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 1: back next week. Thanks a lot. This has been a

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01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys

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