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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Let's bringing the Commissioner Adam Silver joining us on the program.

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Speaker 3: Do you have business cards?

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Speaker 4: Me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, hold on, wait what should say?

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Speaker 5: It says National Basketball Association Adam Silver, commissioner, the whole

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Speaker 5: phone numbers and an address.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how often do you hand those outs?

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Speaker 5: You know, it's so funny when I give them to

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Speaker 5: younger people, they go like this. But our generation still

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Speaker 5: likes business cards. So I still carry them or I

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Speaker 5: got a I had about a thousand printed, I think

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Speaker 5: when I became commissioners, so I'm going.

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Speaker 6: To use them up.

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Speaker 2: You should just hand them out, autograph them. You know,

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Speaker 2: collectors items are impressed.

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Speaker 6: You gotta impressed. I had them in my pocket.

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Speaker 3: That's impressed and rehearsed this.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 2: That's impressive. You were at the University of Chicago, what

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Speaker 2: late eighties?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, do you remember your first Jordan Bulls game when

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Speaker 2: you were in school?

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Speaker 5: I do, because so I got to I went to

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Speaker 5: law school at University of Chicago. I got there in

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Speaker 5: nineteen eighty five, and at that time, we could just

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Speaker 5: go down to the I mean, you just bought tickets

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Speaker 5: at you know, literally at the ticket window at game time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I had gone to Duke, so

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Speaker 5: I knew Michael from North Carolina. I mean not he

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Speaker 5: wasn't secret, but they weren't selling out all the games

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Speaker 5: back then. I mean it was you know, people forget it.

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Speaker 5: It was several years before he won his first championship.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he was great, but it wasn't the Michael

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Speaker 5: Jordan that he turned into.

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Speaker 2: When do you remember when it was more than just

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Speaker 2: a basketball game?

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Speaker 6: Not?

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Speaker 5: Well, I was, well, I remember there was an All

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Speaker 5: Star game in Chicago, so it would have been I

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Speaker 5: don't know, it was like eighty seven or something.

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Speaker 6: I remember that.

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Speaker 5: What was the year when he went to the game,

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Speaker 5: eighty eighty Yeah, okay, so that you know, I think

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Speaker 5: that transformed I think him into this global icon in

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Speaker 5: a way. I just think that that iconic shot I

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Speaker 5: can picture of him flying through the air. I remember,

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Speaker 5: you know, I did not have great seats, but I

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Speaker 5: remember I was in the arena when he did that,

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Speaker 5: and I just remember that that was transformational.

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Speaker 2: I think, how involved were you with NBC bringing in

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan?

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Speaker 6: Not at all?

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Speaker 5: You mean, just now they're just this announcement they're bringing

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Speaker 5: them back now. I mean they told me they were

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Speaker 5: going to try and I said, good luck. I didn't

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Speaker 5: honestly didn't think he was going to do it.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: It took us, as you know, decades to convince him

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Speaker 5: to do the documentary, you know, the Last Dance, which

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Speaker 5: came out during the pandemic and ended up still I

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Speaker 5: think it's one of them, you know, widely viewed on Netflix.

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Speaker 5: But he didn't you know, he didn't want to do

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Speaker 5: that for a long time. We had the footage, and

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Speaker 5: I know there were other inquiries over the years, and

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Speaker 5: I think he, for whatever reason, he was ready to

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Speaker 6: Now. I think he.

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Speaker 5: Has, of course, incredibly fond memories of NBC. I don't

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Speaker 5: think that's lost on anyone he has. You know, as

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Speaker 5: you well know, some of the very same people are there,

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Speaker 5: people like John Miller, who he had a relationship from

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Speaker 5: still you know, they are just switched over to the

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Speaker 5: other side of the operation. But you know, so I

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Speaker 5: think like he had those relationships and again I didn't

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Speaker 5: discourage them, but I was surprised he said, yes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, still trying to figure out what his role is

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Speaker 2: going to be. Now do you follow up? Do you

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Speaker 2: want Are you curious about what role Jordan is going

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Speaker 2: to play with the upcoming camp?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: No, I you know, well, I you know, I didn't

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Speaker 5: I think that they're still working through that. I think that,

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Speaker 5: you know, I spoke to Michael about it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: he's he's excited about it. I think for him, it

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Speaker 5: means he's got to stay current with the game. Obviously

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Speaker 5: he's he's a small owner still in Charlotte, but he

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Speaker 5: he's so passionate about it. I mean, we talked about

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Speaker 5: it all the time. I mean, he you know, he

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Speaker 5: wants the game to be played the right way.

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Speaker 6: He he he.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's still got a huge business around the

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Speaker 5: game with the Jordan brand. But I think more importantly,

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Speaker 5: he watches a lot of basketball and and you know,

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Speaker 5: he knows it's it's what defines him still and so

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Speaker 5: I think fans are going to enjoy hearing his his take,

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Speaker 5: you know, on on the modern League. I think one

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Speaker 5: of the things that I'm excited about in terms of

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Speaker 5: NBC coming back, and this goes back to the Dick

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Speaker 5: eversol days. You know, is that I remember that sign

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Speaker 5: behind Dick's death that said storytelling. I mean, I think

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Speaker 5: they're still some of the best edit you know, and

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Speaker 5: I think telling stories around the game, I mean even

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Speaker 5: right now. I mean that's sort of this narrative out

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Speaker 5: there about small markets whatever else. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 5: incredible stories around Shay and you know, and Tyres and

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Speaker 5: Pascal Siakam. I mean, I my job too. You you know,

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Speaker 5: we first met when I was at MBA Entertainment. But

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Speaker 5: to tell those stories to fans, I think that's what

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Speaker 5: draws them in. I mean, there's the lovers of pure basketball,

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Speaker 5: and I think the basketball is fantastic, but you also

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Speaker 5: have to show how multi dimensional these players are, and

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Speaker 5: you know, explain to them the storylines, the conflict on

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Speaker 5: the floor. And nobody does that better than NBC.

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Speaker 2: You talked about Michael staying current. There are times when

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Speaker 2: Charles may not know who's even playing in a game

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Speaker 2: that he's watching. Now, it's funny to us, but you're

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Speaker 2: the commissioner and this is your lead broadcast team or

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Speaker 2: studio show. How does that kind of settle with you.

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Speaker 2: When Charles may not even know who he's talking about, well.

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Speaker 6: That may be a little extreme.

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Speaker 5: I mean I'm down there a fair amount at their

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's watching the games.

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Speaker 5: I mean they made a decision to take an entertainment

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Speaker 5: was always about more hardcore. Well maybe NBC was somewhere

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes he's a bit of the crazy uncle, I think.

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Speaker 5: But even when he's I think there's a difference when

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Speaker 5: My sense always when Charles is critical, it is a

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Speaker 5: little bit like your uncle at the Thanksgiving table being critical.

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Speaker 5: It's like there's no doubt it comes from a place

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Speaker 6: You know. I don't feel the same way about some

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Speaker 5: Commentators, and I think it's just it's you know, Charles

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Speaker 5: be interesting to see how that converts. As you know,

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Speaker 5: they're now bringing that studio show to ESPN and ABC

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Speaker 5: that works out. I mean, I you know, I love

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Speaker 5: the fact that those guys are still going to be

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Speaker 2: He's the commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver. You know,

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Speaker 2: everybody gets caught up in ratings and I just say,

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Speaker 2: either watch it or not, you know, But the role

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Speaker 2: that social media plays on your priority list because this

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Speaker 2: is a global game and people may not watch the game,

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Speaker 2: but they're watching those clips. You know, you're getting views there.

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Speaker 2: But as the commissioner, you got to, you know, pay

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Speaker 2: homage to the networks. But where does social media rank

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Speaker 5: Social media is high on our priority list. I mean,

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Speaker 5: first of all, we've had something like a billion view

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Speaker 5: But also to get back to your ratings point, I

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Speaker 5: think what gets lost sometimes is just like social media

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Speaker 5: is global, so are the telecasts of our games. And

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Speaker 5: I understand people wanting to talk about our domestic ratings

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Speaker 5: and the extent that the ratings are down, that's a storyline,

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: I was listening to Aaron Rodgers yesterday and he was

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Speaker 5: a way from the NFL that that's never you know,

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Speaker 5: in the NBA, I think because there was so much

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Speaker 5: of the league. I mean, the statistic is roughly over

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Speaker 5: the first sixty five years of the league, three teams

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Speaker 5: won sixty percent of the championships, and so it's understandable

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Speaker 5: that Lakers Celtics Bowls still globally have these huge followings

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Speaker 5: because it gets almost passed on generationally, and to make

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Speaker 5: us a while to get there, but I understand why

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Speaker 5: ratings are part of the story. Now, the last part

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Speaker 5: I'll say about social media. I do think something we'reth

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Speaker 5: thinking a lot more about and getting more sophisticated about,

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Speaker 5: is how do you translate social media into a desire

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Speaker 5: to watch live games. I'll give you just one example.

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Speaker 5: I think we may even talked about it. Last time

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Speaker 5: days later, so he was staying in New York around

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Speaker 6: He's a chess player.

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Speaker 5: He went to Washington Square Park chess in the rain

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Speaker 5: for forty five minutes. Within five days, one hundred million

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Speaker 5: people had viewed him playing chess. And it was just anecdotally.

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Speaker 5: Anyone I would ask because It was also on a

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that was the guy from France.

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Speaker 6: He played.

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Speaker 5: Now the question is seeing that he also plays chess,

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Speaker 5: and he's, by definition you could say, a multi dimensional guy.

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Speaker 5: There's far more to him than ball playing. He speaks

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Speaker 5: multiple languages, even the fact that he's you know, grew

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Speaker 5: up outside of Paris, et cetera. How do we as

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Speaker 5: Well, let me begin by saying it it's not obvious

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Speaker 6: So that's what we're going to do this summer.

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Speaker 2: I thought you'd be a little more emotional about my retirement.

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Speaker 6: You're like Michael Jordan, you've retired before.

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Speaker 2: I'm not coming real yet, I'm not coming. I'm not

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Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks Dan.

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Speaker 4: players as a group to beat Scotty Scheffler this week.

443
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Speaker 2: Okay, So if I gave you Deshamba, Rory rom Schoffley,

444
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: and Colin Morrikowwa, that's a great group, and I took Scheffler,

445
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 2: or you took Scheffler and I took those guys.

446
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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's do that for fun.

447
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: You're taking Scotty and I got the gut.

448
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, let's do that for fun. I think that'd

449
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 4: be a fun bat. I think that's the only way

450
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 4: you would have a fifty to fifty chance to beat

451
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Speaker 4: Scotty this week. Of course, he could get hugely unlucky somewhere.

452
00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 4: He could end up under a lip or a bank

453
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Speaker 4: and make a seven or eight. That's how crazy this

454
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Speaker 4: course is. But it's it's unrealistic to think that those

455
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: other players aren't going to have a train wreck somewhere

456
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,119
Speaker 4: along the line. Scotty is I mean, this could be

457
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: his two thousand US Open. He could win by double digits.

458
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Speaker 4: He really could. Wow.

459
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Speaker 2: I was watching the broadcast last night by the Way

460
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Speaker 2: Golf channel, Rich Lerners the host. It is great, you

461
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Speaker 2: guys do a wonderful John.

462
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Speaker 6: Thank you.

463
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Speaker 4: Rich is amazing.

464
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Speaker 2: And what stood out was your comments about Rory McElroy

465
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Speaker 2: because the number of people who said to me after

466
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Speaker 2: he won at the Masters, oh boy, now the pressure's off.

467
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Speaker 2: Now you're going to see Rory go out there and

468
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Speaker 2: just you know, take down people. But your commentary was

469
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Speaker 2: I text Fritzy right away, I said, see if Brande

470
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Speaker 2: ol join is because you were pointing out something to

471
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Speaker 2: the contrary with Rory McElroy, and then you brought up

472
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Speaker 2: Ben Hogan as well, so enlighten our audience on what

473
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Speaker 2: you said last night.

474
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that Rory's necessarily lost his form

475
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 4: as he's lost his foot, and there is some precedent

476
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Speaker 4: for that, you know Ben Hogan. Mind you, he was

477
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Speaker 4: forty when he did it, and Rory's in his mid thirties.

478
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 4: But Ben Hogan in nineteen fifty three, it had never

479
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 4: played the Open Championship, went over and played the Open.

480
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: Now he won it and completed the career Grand Slam

481
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Speaker 4: and had the best year in the history of golf

482
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Speaker 4: to that point in major championships, and the idea was,

483
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 4: that's it. He's going to go on a tourrant for

484
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 4: the next you know, four or five years. And he

485
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 4: had won twenty five percent of his golf tournaments at

486
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 4: that point in his career. And he would play fifty

487
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: three times after that on the PGA Tour and win

488
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: just one other golf tournament and that was six years later,

489
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Speaker 4: nineteen fifty nine. He won one time after completing the

490
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Speaker 4: career Grand Slam. So, you know, I think there's this

491
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 4: huge sense of accomplishment. It's not unique to golf. We

492
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 4: see it in the arts and other sports where somebody

493
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 4: climbs out mountain and they realize, you know, they lose

494
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: their focus, they lose the sort of creativity and the

495
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 4: inspiration that it took to achieve what they did, and

496
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 4: they struggle to find it again. And it's a very

497
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 4: small sympathize as far sys three or four tournaments for Rory,

498
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 4: But I've never seen him play this poorly. I've never

499
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 4: seen him look this disorganized. He's never had a tournament

500
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 4: where he played as bad as he did at the

501
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 4: Canadian Open his last outing, and he said it Dan

502
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 4: Dan in the media center. He says, Yeah, it's really

503
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 4: hard for me to get out and go hit three

504
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 4: you know, hit balls for three or four hours, and

505
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 4: I'm not aiming at anything, and I don't really have

506
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 4: any long term goals anymore. And I think I said, look,

507
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Speaker 4: if you were a coach and you had heard a

508
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 4: quarterback talking like that, you'd bench. He Yeah, you can't

509
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 4: play if you can't find the focus to play at

510
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 4: your best. This game is really hard to play at

511
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 4: the high level if you are focused. Nobody is talented

512
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 4: enough without the fire, you know, burning white hot in

513
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 4: them to compete at the highest level.

514
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: But you can kind of see him, and you guys

515
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: discussed body language when he's meeting with the media. It

516
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 2: just feels different that you're almost exhaling, whereas Tiger was inhaling,

517
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: like he was like, yeah, I want to Okay, what's next?

518
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 2: And and you know, granted, there's nobody like him, you know,

519
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: even David Duvall. He got to the mountain and he's like,

520
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: I think I want to come down off the mountain. Yeah,

521
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: but understanding and Rory does what I love about He's

522
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: one of my favorite interviewer interviews because he does listen

523
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: to what you're asking him, and he does he does

524
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 2: give you something that feels like it's not robotic there,

525
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 2: but just watching the body language.

526
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just feels like he's so.

527
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: Kind of there to, you know, be the grand master,

528
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: you know, grand Marshal there, Harry here, I am hi, hi,

529
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: hi hi, And that's about it.

530
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: So true. I think he's the best interview in golf.

531
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Speaker 4: I've asked other writers, who's the best interview in golf?

532
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 11: Is?

533
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: They all just unanimously on the men's side, say say

534
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 4: Roy McRoy. Nothing, sayd Tiger Woods. I mean, he wanted

535
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 4: to name all the mountains and the rivers. I think

536
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 4: Rory is at a point in his life where he

537
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 4: wants to enjoy his life. You know, he wants to

538
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 4: drink some nice wine, he wants to take some trips

539
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 4: with his buddies. He's got his fingers in a lot

540
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 4: of pies in the business world. You know, I'm pretty

541
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 4: sure he's worth billions or on his way to being

542
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: worth billions, and he's taking a leadership role in a

543
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: lot of different ventures. So I think, you know, he's

544
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 4: just different, and I think that's one of the reasons

545
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 4: why he's such a great interview is because he is insightful,

546
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 4: he is bright, He thinks about a lot of different things,

547
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 4: and I think he's got a lot of different interests.

548
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 4: Can he find his way back to focus. I hope so,

549
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 4: because I was joking. I mean, he was put on

550
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: this earth to play golf, like Leonardo da Vinci was

551
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: put on this earth to paint angels, and they just

552
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 4: don't come around like Rory very often. And I'm sure

553
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: he's great at all these other things, but that man

554
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 4: was put on this earth to play some golf.

555
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 2: And then Bryson de Shamba all of a sudden, It's

556
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 2: like a body switching movie where all of a sudden

557
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: he's somebody different. He brings the US Open Trophy out,

558
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: letting fans touch it. We saw the Masters where he

559
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: came out and embracing the crown.

560
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: Is this calculated.

561
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 4: There's a lot of people that think it is calculated,

562
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: But as I used to say about Phil Mickelson, it

563
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 4: doesn't really matter whether it's calculated or not. All that

564
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 4: matters is that people are entertained and they get the

565
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: autograph and they get the exchange because four is really

566
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: about entertainment, and he's great entertainment. You'd be hard pressed

567
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 4: to find anybody more entertaining in the game of golf

568
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 4: than Bryson. I don't know, I feel like it's sincere.

569
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 4: I'm kind of gullible that way.

570
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 7: Dan.

571
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 4: I look at him, I'm like, all right, I'm buying it.

572
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: He looks like a hell of a nice guy. To me,

573
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 4: he sounds like a nice guy. Maybe he's a little

574
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 4: awkward socially amongst his peers, but right now, the most

575
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna say, the most devastating. Scotty Scheffler's iron

576
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 4: plays the most definite devastating weapon in the game. But

577
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,239
Speaker 4: when I watch Bryson hit driver, it reminds me of

578
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 4: Steph Curry hitting threes. It's just you can't do what

579
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Speaker 4: he's doing. Scottie Scheffler is the best driver in the

580
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 4: world as far as we know, because we can't we

581
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 4: don't have the data on Bryson on live events, but

582
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 4: eye test wise, Bryson's the best driver of the golf

583
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: ball in the world, and that's obviously hugely important.

584
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Speaker 2: This week, we love seeing birdies. We liked the roarers

585
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: but we're not going to see maybe as many birdies

586
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: as people would like. And there will be criticisms that

587
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: I didn't tune in to watch somebody play like I

588
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 2: do on Saturdays here. But your thoughts on making this,

589
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: you know over par is going to win this tournament.

590
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 4: Well, I grew up and I always just felt like

591
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 4: the US Open was the most intimidating test in golf.

592
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 4: You know, the rough used to be the thickest that

593
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: the players face, The green's the fastest, and the farmist

594
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Speaker 4: and it was supposed to be a place where players

595
00:28:55,000 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 4: went to bitch. And as you would see somebody shooting

596
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 4: four or five sometimes seven over par, it was it

597
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: was a gauntlet. And the US Open became a little

598
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: bit more like everybody gets trophy and the rough's not

599
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: that day. And we got graduated rough and we're listening

600
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 4: to the players and if they complain, we do this

601
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: or we do that. I feel like this one's getting

602
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 4: back to what the US Open. It had its own

603
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 4: identity for a long period of time, draconian test, and

604
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 4: I feel like that's what this is. So if you

605
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 4: like birdies and all that and twenty under par, you

606
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 4: probably not gonna enjoy what you're gonna see the next

607
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: four days, you know, talking to some of the players,

608
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 4: talking to some of the guys that have been out

609
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: there a lot, I've heard people say that it wouldn't

610
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Speaker 4: it's not out of the realm of post the possibility

611
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Speaker 4: that double digits over par could win this week.

612
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Speaker 6: I don't.

613
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 4: I don't think it's gonna be that high, but it

614
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 4: could be over part because it's going to be dry

615
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 4: until a little bit Saturday could rain, but otherwise it's

616
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 4: gonna be dry.

617
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't put the ball above the whole on some

618
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 2: of those screens or hit it in the rough.

619
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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

620
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: You know, a few months back, Tiger kind of threw

621
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 2: it out there casually that he had a setback that

622
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: he tore his achilles, Like, that's not a like, oh,

623
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Speaker 2: by the way, I had a little setback. You know,

624
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: sprained ankle is a little setback. Are we gonna see

625
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: Tiger ever again?

626
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 4: Every time I'm asked that question, I always say, I hope.

627
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 4: So he was teasing me and teasing all of us

628
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 4: in that you know, the simulator, you know events his

629
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 4: clubhead speed was getting close to one hundred and eighty

630
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: miles an hour. His swing was long, he was pushing

631
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Speaker 4: off the right foot. I absolutely got giddy watching him.

632
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: I thought he's coming back, if he could just get

633
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 4: around a gust or get the right week where it's hot.

634
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 4: But the Achilles, you know, that's about a year setback

635
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 4: or something like that. And you know another year older.

636
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: He's going to be fifty years of age. And so yeah,

637
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 4: I could go out on a limb and say I'll

638
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 4: never win again, and I have say it. You know,

639
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 4: I would love him to prove me wrong. I'd love

640
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: if he won one more time, one more time. That'd

641
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 4: be eighty three. And now people say he's tied with

642
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: Sam's need. I disagree, but nonetheless people say he's tied

643
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: with Sam's need at eighty two. I say Tiger's all

644
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: alone at eighty two and Sam seventy seven. But nonetheless

645
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: he gets one more. I think that'd be one of

646
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: the coolest things ever happening golf.

647
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, his son Charlie might win before Tiger wins.

648
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 4: Charlie looked really good when in that tournament recently, big

649
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 4: tournament with a great field in it. He's got a

650
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: heck of a swing too.

651
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like Dan, Hey, thanks, thanks for joining

652
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Speaker 2: us as always and we'll be watching.

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Speaker 4: Later on Always a pleasure, Dan, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Brandal Shambley.

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

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Speaker 2: Chris Sims Pro Football Talk Live, co host Football Night

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Speaker 2: in America and his Unbuttoned podcast, Former legendary quarterback just

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Speaker 2: asking a sims A program.

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Speaker 11: Wow, you don't ask me because I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 11: I'm a legendary quarterback.

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Speaker 7: I don't know who you're getting me confused with.

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Speaker 11: Maybe a legendary mouth, all right, and maybe I got that,

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Speaker 11: but not a legendary quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Okayry speaking of legendary quarterbacks, help me understand these ratings

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Speaker 2: rankings that you have. Do you have Patrick Mahomes as

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Speaker 2: the fourth best quarterback going into this season.

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Speaker 7: As of right now?

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Speaker 6: I do? Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean it's it's not easy.

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Speaker 11: First off, I think we got to talk about when

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Speaker 11: you talk about the top four quarterbacks in football right now,

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Speaker 11: I would argue it's as good as the top four

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Speaker 11: as we've ever had in the history of the game,

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Speaker 11: right all in their prime all the similar age, right,

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Speaker 11: It's hard to find ever. I know we had like

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Speaker 11: lay Marino Montana right in the mid eighties. Okay, but

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Speaker 11: who was the fourth I'm not sure we want to

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Speaker 11: throw in Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly, right, but he didn't

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Speaker 11: really show up until late eighties. But yeah, I hear

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Speaker 11: you that that would probably be one. I'm with you there. Well,

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Speaker 11: you had Aikman and Steve Young and Brett farv in

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Speaker 11: the mid nineties and that crew, that crew there, right,

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Speaker 11: and and I'm probably missing another guy that could cross

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Speaker 11: over to that, Warren Moon exactly right. Great call by you.

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Speaker 11: You know, you get to the two thousands and you go,

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Speaker 11: we had Brady Breeze, Brett Farb right Manning, Holy crap,

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Speaker 11: that was a good four.

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Speaker 7: This is a special four. Right, So this is it's

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Speaker 7: nitpicky here.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, give me your four.

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Speaker 2: Give me a number one quarterback in football going into

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Speaker 2: the season is Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 7: Lamar Jackson number one.

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Speaker 11: I think when you look at it from game by

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Speaker 11: game basis consistency, playing at an extremely high level. Lamar

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Speaker 11: Jackson's done that better than everybody in football, probably over

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Speaker 11: the last two years, but especially last year and listen,

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Speaker 11: I went into this thinking I was probably gonna have

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Speaker 11: Josh Allen number one.

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Speaker 7: I really thought that.

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Speaker 11: But as I started to watch film and break it

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Speaker 11: down and go through it, I just went I mean,

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Speaker 11: every game, Lamar Jackson, it's great play from the pocket,

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Speaker 11: it's great decisions, it's versatile throws all over the field.

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Speaker 11: When nothing's there, something good still happens.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 11: So that's where Lamar Jackson, to me, is separated himself.

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Speaker 11: But it was hard.

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Speaker 7: I mean, Joe Burrow could have won the MVP.

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Speaker 11: Josh Allen did win the MVP, and I voted for him,

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Speaker 11: just so you know that, right. And then Mahomes, who's

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Speaker 11: maybe the greatest quarterback I've ever seen in my life,

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Speaker 11: are certainly in that conversation. Okay, he's mastered winning. I

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Speaker 11: understand that, but winning is also not just a quarterback thing.

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Speaker 11: We've got a little too carried away with just giving

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Speaker 11: the quarterback winning all the time. I don't love that.

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Speaker 11: Now he's mastered that, and he s as clutch as

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Speaker 11: can be, certainly, but I think if you sat and

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Speaker 11: watched film with me, especially last year and even the

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Speaker 11: year before, and we went game by game, and we

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Speaker 11: looked at it, you'd go, yeah, Lamar Jackson's playing the

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Speaker 11: position a little bit better right now. But it is

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Speaker 11: tough because Mahomes two knows his team. He knows Oh,

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Speaker 11: third down, okay, Oh wait, I could fit it in there.

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Speaker 11: Oh no, I'll just throw it in the dirt incomplete.

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Speaker 11: My defense is awesome and it'll keep us in the game.

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Speaker 11: I don't think like Josh Allen and Joe Burrow had

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Speaker 11: that luxury. They don't have the luxury to do that.

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Speaker 11: It's like, oh no, if you don't com believe that

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Speaker 11: the other team's gonna get the ball and go down

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Speaker 11: and score on you guys right now. So you got

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Speaker 11: to make it happen. And so that's where it was

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Speaker 11: really tough. With the top four, Dan and Dan. I

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Speaker 11: still can't believe I got Mahomes number four either. I'm

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Speaker 11: shocked by it.

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Speaker 2: Chris Sim's Pro Football Talk Live co host with Mike Fluriel,

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Speaker 2: precedes this show Monday through Friday. We have tiers of pressure,

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Speaker 2: so levels of pressure and level one. We had Ravens

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Speaker 2: on there, had the Bills on there. Anybody else, any

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Speaker 2: other team or player that you would like to put

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Speaker 2: on that list are the Lions on that Tier one

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Speaker 2: level one pressure.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if I'm gonna put it there. Their

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Speaker 11: expectations are high, but I think it's a little different

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Speaker 11: than maybe some of the ones you just talked about.

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Speaker 11: I think Miami Dolphins have some pressure. I do you

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Speaker 11: know there's a lot of talk about they can never

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Speaker 11: win tough, physical games.

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Speaker 7: Are they gritty enough?

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Speaker 3: All of that, right, the coach is under pressure.

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Speaker 7: The coach is under pressure. I feel like two is

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Speaker 7: under pressure, but.

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Speaker 2: He's still got that content, he's got that contract.

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Speaker 11: No I know, but at some point you got to start,

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Speaker 11: you got to start putting it up. But I think

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Speaker 11: that would be just another team I would throw in

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Speaker 11: that conversation. Steelers, I think probably getting that conversation now,

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Speaker 11: especially with Aaron Rodgers, because the coach, the quarterback. They

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Speaker 11: haven't won a playoff game, and who knows how long

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Speaker 11: I'd throw them in there with it. Dak Prescott would

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Speaker 11: probably be the guy I would put in say, I

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Speaker 11: don't think there's more pressure than anybody in football than

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Speaker 11: Dak Prescott. In my opinion, you're the highest paid quarterback

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Speaker 11: in the league. I don't think you're one of the

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Speaker 11: top ten quarterbacks in football. I don't think a lot

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Speaker 11: of people would think you're a top ten quarterback in football, right.

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Speaker 11: They haven't had playoff results there or anything as well.

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Speaker 11: So I look at Dak Prescott to be one of

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Speaker 11: the guys I would say is under maybe the most

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Speaker 11: pressure out of anybody in football.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but the over under seven and a half wins.

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Speaker 2: There's no expectations on them.

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Speaker 7: I get it.

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Speaker 11: But just what I don't understand is like sometimes sometimes

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Speaker 11: quarterbacks get it expectations about who you are and what

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Speaker 11: you are and you got to carry the team. And

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Speaker 11: here we go, the highest made guy and we're just like, ah,

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Speaker 11: we don't expect anything from you. And that doesn't make sense,

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Speaker 11: not to me at least. And I do think the

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Speaker 11: team is a little more talented than the public is

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Speaker 11: giving it credit for.

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 11: I look at them and I think they're one of

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Speaker 11: those teams that could be a surprise playoff team. There's

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Speaker 11: not a whole lot of weakness with their roster. But again,

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Speaker 11: the play has not been stellar, the results have not

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Speaker 11: been stellar. The most stellar thing the last few years

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Speaker 11: has been the amount of zeros on his contract, and

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Speaker 11: I think some you got to start justifying some of

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Speaker 11: that too, Trevor Lawrence, I'd throw in that book there too, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to put him second level. I

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Speaker 2: would put Jordan Love in there at second level pressure.

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Speaker 2: I put JJ McCarthy in there, Like there's pressure because

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Speaker 2: this is a team that was great. Your quarterback has

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Speaker 2: gone and they passed on Aaron Rodgers. You got the

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Speaker 2: best receiver in football, and you got a great, great

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Speaker 2: head coach. So we want to see, we want to

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Speaker 2: see what JJ McCarthy's all about, right.

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Speaker 7: Right, I think so too. I'm with you. There too,

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Speaker 7: a ton of pressure on him.

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Speaker 11: I think that's why they forwarded with Aaron Rodgers a

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Speaker 11: little bit early in the offseason because of all the

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Speaker 11: things you're talking about. They're looking at it going I

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Speaker 11: think we're kind of in the super Bowl window, and

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Speaker 11: I go, yeah, I agree. The team itself, when you

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Speaker 11: take the other fifty two guys, you go, oh damn.

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Speaker 11: The Vikings are good and they made themselves better this offseason.

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Speaker 11: But the quarterback is the question mark, right, and we'll see.

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Speaker 11: I think they like him. He fits I think what

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Speaker 11: they and how they want to play there.

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Speaker 7: He has played pro style of football.

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Speaker 11: Right, playing in Michigan where it's Jim harball, and you

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Speaker 11: might go five eight, throw eight plays in a row

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Speaker 11: where you don't throw the ball, and then all of

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Speaker 11: a sudden it's like, hey, you got to make a

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Speaker 11: big throw for us.

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Speaker 7: We didn't get you.

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Speaker 11: In rhythm, but now throw a bullseye twenty five yards

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Speaker 11: down the field. He did that consistently, But I'm with you,

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Speaker 11: there is a lot of pressure on him.

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Speaker 2: What are the Steelers getting on the field with Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 7: They're getting.

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Speaker 11: Something better than I thought I was gonna see, getting

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Speaker 11: back to my quarterback rankings and a little bit of

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Speaker 11: the Rogers. He was one of my pleasant surprises when

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Speaker 11: I went back and watched. I think at the second

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Speaker 11: half of the year, when he finally accepted who he

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Speaker 11: was and what he was capable of, I thought, more

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Speaker 11: times than not, the games are pretty damn good. I

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Speaker 11: think once he realized he can't move around, he's not

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Speaker 11: gonna be able to make magic happen anymore. Those days

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Speaker 11: you're done. You're confined to the pocket, right and within

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Speaker 11: that stayed in the pocket last year and was aggressive

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Speaker 11: throwing the ball down the field late in the year.

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Speaker 11: That to me was the encouraging thing, because that's been

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Speaker 11: my number one knock on him the last three or

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Speaker 11: four years. Not aggressive enough, not playing to win, playing

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Speaker 11: more than not to lose, instead of going to get

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Speaker 11: the game and winning it and taking it by the reins.

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Speaker 11: The Steelers offense has not been good for the last

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Speaker 11: few years. They've been hampered by quarterback play where yeah,

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Speaker 11: defenses they kind of know what to expect from their

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Speaker 11: offense is not creative. They've had quarterbacks that don't know

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Speaker 11: how to use the whole field with how they throw

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Speaker 11: the football. I think Aaron Rodgers is going to bring

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Speaker 11: that to the table. I think their whole lines in

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Speaker 11: a good spot. I think the Steelers are breaking molds

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Speaker 11: a little bit bringing DK metcalf in paying him what

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Speaker 11: they did. That's not a usual type of business type

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Speaker 11: of thing from them. I think they realize that the

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Speaker 11: good teams in football are aggressive right now and they

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Speaker 11: got to do that. They put himself in a little

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Speaker 11: bit of a bad spot with the quarterback situation with

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Speaker 11: Rogers and basically being desperate for him. But he's going

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Speaker 11: to make them at least capable of winning a playoff

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Speaker 11: game if they can get there.

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Speaker 2: I think Joe Burrow's going to shoulder a little extra

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Speaker 2: pressure because.

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Speaker 3: He went out on a limb.

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Speaker 2: He went to management, he said, I got to have

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Speaker 2: these guys.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get Trey Hendricks and at least not yet.

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Speaker 2: But you know, the Bengals reputation kind of precedes them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you gotta have some defense here because you're not going

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Speaker 2: to win that many shootouts in the NFL.

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Speaker 7: No, No, it's tough to do that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 11: He's special enough to where I think you'd probably be

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Speaker 11: with me and I know people that I do Football

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Speaker 11: Night America, Jason Garrett, Devin mccordy. I mean, at the

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Speaker 11: end of the year last year, we were all like,

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Speaker 11: oh my gosh, that the Bengals get in the playoffs,

877
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 11: they might go to the super Bowl. With how he

878
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 11: played and did all that. I love Joe Burrow that

879
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 11: he keeps the pressure on the organization. He has to.

880
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 11: He's got to continue. The Bengals just can't get out

881
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 11: of their own way. I mean, they messed up last

882
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 11: offseason and here they are trying to mess it all

883
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 11: up once again. And it's just it's incredible. They're in

884
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 11: a window with the best player they've had in the

885
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 11: franchise history. Joe Burrow is by far the biggest thing

886
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 11: that's ever happened to the Cincinnati Bengals. And that's not

887
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 11: taking anything away from Awesome Boomera Sizon and everybody else

888
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 11: that's been there. But Burrow, as you know, is a superstar.

889
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 11: He's an international superstar. He's one of the best quarterbacks

890
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 11: in football, that's not even close. And I love the

891
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 11: comments he made about Trey Henderson. I hope he continues

892
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 11: to say things like that. Them doing what they're doing

893
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 11: with Trey Hendrickson, what they're doing with their first round

894
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 11: pick Shamar Stewart, who's a raw, freak of nature athlete

895
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 11: who would benefit from learning from Trey Hendrickson and getting

896
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 11: his game because they're gonna need him to play right away.

897
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 11: They're hurting both players right now by screwing up the

898
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 11: Shamar Stewart contract situation and not having him out there

899
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 11: and the Trey Hendrickson one.

900
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 7: I just don't understand it.

901
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: You're Alma Mater, Texas of course has arch manning there,

902
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering the Saints right now DraftKings has them

903
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: as the team with these second fewest wins this upcoming season.

904
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say they.

905
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: Have the worst record in football, they're on the clock,

906
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: and Arch Manning that's his hometown team. And do you

907
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: think that would be enough for him to leave when

908
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: it felt like he was going to probably be there

909
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 2: for two years at Texas.

910
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 7: I don't know.

911
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, they're a smart family. They're not gonna chase pipe dreams.

912
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 7: We know that.

913
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 11: Even though it would be really cool to say, man

914
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 11: Archie Manning's playing quarterback for the same team as you know,

915
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 11: the other Archie Manning played for is his grandfather. That

916
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 11: would be amazing. But I also I think they're they're

917
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 11: into their education, the Manning family. They're into making sure

918
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 11: we get enough reps at the college level to make

919
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 11: sure when we get to the NFL we're ready to go.

920
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 11: So I don't think they'll be rushed by any type

921
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 11: of scenario.

922
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 7: Right.

923
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 11: If they feel like arch is really ready and he's

924
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 11: polished and ready to go, then I'm sure they'll send

925
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 11: him out in the draft. But if they're like, oh, hey,

926
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 11: you only get to go to college once. There's a

927
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 11: few things you need to work on here, you want

928
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 11: to win a national championship, I certainly.

929
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 7: I expect them to be there two years.

930
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 11: I do, and I'm expecting big things from him, you know,

931
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 11: but I do love him and I think he's in

932
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 11: that conversation of what you're talking about, one of the

933
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 11: top quarterbacks in football this year, along with that Nussmeyer

934
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 11: kid at LSU. I look at him and go, man,

935
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 11: I think he's got some talent as well. Be interesting

936
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 11: to see how it all shakes out.

937
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: In two years. Will arch Manning be the first quarterback taken?

938
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 7: I would say so.

939
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 11: I would say so, yes, That's where I would I

940
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 11: expect them to stay this year, get the experience. Texas

941
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 11: dominates college football, right and hopefully he comes back and

942
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 11: we dominate football one more time. On top of that,

943
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 11: and we just remind everybody who the Longhorns are.

944
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: Where are you in the old time list for touchdown passes?

945
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 11: It Texas man, I want to say I'm top five.

946
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 11: I don't Quinn Youwers. I think just passed me up

947
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 11: in some ways or whatever.

948
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 2: Major Apple White number one on that list.

949
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 11: I don't know if he's number one, but I think

950
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 11: he's a little above me as far as touchdowns are concerned.

951
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul So.

952
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 7: Number five is Chris Sims with fifty eight.

953
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 4: Number four is Major apple White with sixty, Quinn Yours

954
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 4: sixty eight in the third spot, Sam Erlinger ninety four

955
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 4: touchdown pass.

956
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all those right.

957
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 11: I think if you took my rushing touchdowns, I probably

958
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,800
Speaker 11: pass up Major apple White.

959
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: Col McCoy on twelve, Oh yeah, that's right. Could McCoy, Well,

960
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: what did Vince Young have?

961
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 7: What did he have?

962
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 11: I mean forty one hundred damn. I feel like he

963
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 11: had one hundred touchdowns just in that one.

964
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: Season against USC exactly right.

965
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 11: But yeah, it's it's uh, it's one of the Hey, listen,

966
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 11: I'm proud of my time at Texas. We didn't win

967
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 11: a national championship, but we had a good run and

968
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 11: that was a damn good team we were on.

969
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: And then you got paid and you showed up in

970
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: a limo the first day.

971
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, and you're a jerk, And that's not exactly how

972
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 11: it went down.

973
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 3: Didn't you show up in a limo?

974
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 6: No?

975
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 7: I did not. I showed up in a bus that

976
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 7: said Limo bus. Okay, but it was a bus all right?

977
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 3: So was it a party bus? It was?

978
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 7: It was like we had to rent something from the hotel.

979
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 11: And it was like one of those party buses that

980
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 11: said Limo bus on the side, and just the older

981
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 11: guys on the team just took that and ran with it.

982
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 7: And I can never fight it off for as long

983
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 7: as I.

984
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: Went in a stripper pole in the party bus.

985
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 7: It wasn't there. It wasn't there. I've seen a few

986
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 7: of those poles in my day, but it wasn't in

987
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 7: that bus.

988
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: All right, Thank you Chris always, and that's Chris Simms.