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Speaker 1: Welcome to a good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're

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Speaker 1: basically the Kristin Wig character on SNL Sue who hates

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Speaker 1: we're just so excited we can't bear it. It's Thursday,

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Speaker 1: February nineteenth, and before we get to anything, we've got

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Speaker 1: We're we're, we're weir well, that's right, y'all. We've got

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Speaker 1: an engagement. USA hockey superstar Hillary Night proposed to USA

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Speaker 1: meme goes OMG, screaming, crying, throwing up, we just couldn't

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Speaker 1: happy for our friends of the show. We'll tell you

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Speaker 1: more about that later. For now, back to our regularly

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Speaker 1: scheduled programming. On today's show, we talked with the greatest

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Speaker 1: skier of all time, Mikayla Schiffrin, about ending her Olympic

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Speaker 1: medal draught with a massive, huge, dominating, ass kicking win

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Speaker 1: in the slalom on Wednesday. She discusses winning without her father,

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Speaker 1: wishing average Joes understood alpine skiing a little better and

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Speaker 1: have them margins of victory and her sport make stringing

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Speaker 1: top five gasps and what do you call the final

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Speaker 1: after this welcome back slices. Here's what you need to

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Speaker 1: know today. Let's start with alpine skiing and women slalom,

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Speaker 1: where Mikayla Schiffrin freaking did it in her third and

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Speaker 1: final opportunity to meddle at these Milan Courtina Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 1: The Team USA Superstar put down two fantastic runs in

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Speaker 1: hundredth more than Schiffrin's margin in Wednesday's race alone incredible.

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Speaker 1: Schiffrin also is now both the youngest and oldest US

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Speaker 1: She was eighteen years old when she won slalom gold

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Speaker 1: Fellow Americans aj Hurt, Nina O'Brien, and Paula Moltzen had

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Speaker 1: Lindsay Vaughn, who's now back in the US after crashing

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Speaker 1: She wrote, in part, quote, my injury was a lot

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Speaker 1: and that transport video are pretty gnarly. And then on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: after she crashed in Courtina, her dog Leo, passed away

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Speaker 1: Producer Bianca recommends the poem The House Dog's Grave by

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Speaker 1: where Team USA's Jesse Diggins and Julia Kern were in

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Speaker 1: that venue was actually where figure skating took place for

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Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty six Corteina Dempezo Games outdoors. You might

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Speaker 1: and Blue Sky to Hockey where today's the day Team

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Speaker 1: last Olympic hockey final and the one before that, and

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Speaker 1: two are no different now. Boa said that these games

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Speaker 1: reigning world champion. She earned a seventy six point five

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Speaker 1: Ski mountaineering, also called schemo, is a tough endurance sport

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Speaker 1: some hoops news back home, ESPN is reporting that the

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Speaker 1: WNBA Players Association submitted a CBA counter proposal to the

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Speaker 2: just really cool to see her now hold that record.

431
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when you think of Mikayla schifferin you think

432
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 1: of all the winning that she does and you kind

433
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 1: of don't process until you really think about it. That

434
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: she had to go that long in between golds in

435
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: this event because there's so much winning everywhere else in

436
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: her signature event. Yeah yeah, okay, let's hear from the

437
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: gold medal gal herself. Because first we chatted with her

438
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,359
Speaker 1: on the mountain side in the mixzone, after she'd talked

439
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 1: to just about every camera crew and wire service and

440
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: reporter there is. After just under two hours of chatting

441
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 1: with all those folks, she finally made it to our mixzone,

442
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,720
Speaker 1: where she was asked by a reporter simply and accurately,

443
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: what haven't you said yet? Take a listen?

444
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean this this is crazy, like life is crazy.

445
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: It's just.

446
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: So much effort and work and.

447
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 3: Focus and preparation for two runs of forty seven fifty seconds.

448
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 3: You know, it's like to actually be in the right

449
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 3: mentality in the right moment is nearly impossible, and it

450
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: takes a lot of effort, but it takes a lot

451
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: of support from the whole team. And they've been my team.

452
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 3: They've been doing so.

453
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 1: Much work.

454
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 3: And they've been so encouraging and supportive of me in

455
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: the moments when I was thinking about pressure and expectations

456
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: and to actually to listen to me and understand it,

457
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 3: and to say that that's very valid, but to remind

458
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 3: me that what's meaningful for us and for me is

459
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Speaker 3: the turn between the start and the finish, and that's

460
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 3: what I came here to do, like to show up

461
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,679
Speaker 3: with that skiing, and I'm I can't even explain what

462
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: it feels like to cross the finish line and know

463
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: before I saw the time that I did that skiing,

464
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: and then see the time and think holy shit. And

465
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: then to see Anast and Larsen and Camil like in

466
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: the end and and like we're just there's excitement and

467
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: in the day, there's also disappointment. There's everybody is experiencing

468
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: something different, and I think I appreciate that because I've

469
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: I've been on the other side of it too. I

470
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 3: think ski racing is the most incredible sport because we

471
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Speaker 3: the athletes stand together through heartbreak and defeat and victory.

472
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Speaker 3: We have a We're a family, and I feel that

473
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Speaker 3: with my competitors, with my teammates, with my appears, every

474
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 3: single athlete who was on the hill today showed courage

475
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: just by being here.

476
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Speaker 1: Okay, so literally we waited hours and hours and that

477
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: was the one question basically because Then Mikayla was rushed

478
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 1: down to the media center for her live streamed presser,

479
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 1: where she addressed a number of things, including, you know,

480
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 1: saying that she didn't read what she was certain would

481
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 1: be very frustrating comments from media and fans after her

482
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 1: disappointing team combined race, how she was sort of blocking

483
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 1: that out. She also talked about wishing people better understood

484
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: the margins of error in alpine skiing what we just

485
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: talked about, how people don't seem to get that, like

486
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: being the best doesn't mean you win every single time

487
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: in this sport compared to some other sports. She also

488
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: revealed that she took a nap and a cry in

489
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Speaker 1: between her runs. You know. She said the cry was

490
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: prompted by thoughts of her father, who, for those of

491
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: you who don't know, died very suddenly after a fall

492
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and she needed to take a little

493
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: nap and have a little cry before she went out

494
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Speaker 1: for run number two. After that press conference, the final

495
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: boss that Mikayla had to meet before she got to

496
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, sleep or eat or whatever post win

497
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: Joy was awaiting her was a dining area full of

498
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: American journalists who wanted just a few more minutes with her,

499
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: and that included both halves of Little Citrus. Take a listen, what.

500
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Speaker 5: Have your strategies been when your own expectations and goal

501
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 5: for schools for yourself don't align with what it feels

502
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 5: like the public schools and expectations are even you know,

503
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 5: after the Giants all of the other day, you seem

504
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 5: so happy, but yeah, you know, some people might have

505
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 5: seen that as a.

506
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 4: Quote unquote failure. Totally that didn't seem like your perspective

507
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 4: at all.

508
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: No, I mean, one of the most important things is

509
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 3: like that I can I you guys gave me the

510
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 3: chance to share my perspective, and even through the media

511
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: during the GSA, I could feel that there was a

512
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: vibe shift because people learned my perspective and understood actually

513
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: a little bit.

514
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: More about what's involved in the demands of the sport.

515
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: And how extremely beautiful that race was because when you're

516
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: looking at it from the outside or sorry, from fifty.

517
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 4: Thousand seat, you're like, you know, it's a green light

518
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 4: or a red light.

519
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: But then when you think about the time three tenths

520
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,439
Speaker 3: of a second and how fast that goes it's like,

521
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 3: actually pretty incredible that that many athletes, like fifteen athletes

522
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 3: or something could be within that time difference.

523
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

524
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: I just felt like it was such an incredible show

525
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 3: for the sport. And that's actually probably the most important

526
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: thing that ski racing could gain from the Olympics is that,

527
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: you know, we get to showcase the sport like that.

528
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: It was a great opportunity to be able to show

529
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 3: actually how not disappointing that was, but then to say

530
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: mention what you said of like what tactics you use.

531
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Speaker 3: I haven't been looking at social media.

532
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: I have.

533
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 4: Unsubscribed from a lot of emails and publications that I.

534
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: Normally like to receive, and just trying to actually just

535
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: put the blinders up, because I will read and I'll

536
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 3: listen and I'll the worst people, worst things that people.

537
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 4: Might say about me.

538
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: I will listen to it, and I'll and I agree

539
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 3: with it. Actually, you know these things, I'm like you're

540
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: right and this and that and like I'm worthless and whatever.

541
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: I just didn't see any of that this time around,

542
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 3: purposefully and instead really focused because like I give myself

543
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 3: enough negative talk actually, but really really focused on building

544
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 3: up the mentality I wanted to have with my skiing.

545
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: I agree with so much of what she said. You know,

546
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 2: I'm somebody who reads the comments of things, not that

547
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: nearly as many people are commenting about anything.

548
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: That I do.

549
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: And it's crazy how quickly you can be like, wow,

550
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 2: they're right, and it's like they're not right, just because

551
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: they have a keyboard at home and are able to

552
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: type words into it. And so I appreciate her honesty

553
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 2: in that because it's tough to have those blinders on.

554
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: And I think to the point that she makes about

555
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: media understanding better, you know, is something that she's had

556
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: to be proactive about. Like if you look at her

557
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: Instagram posts and what she's writing about, like she's trying

558
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 2: very hard in the team around her I'm sure is

559
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 2: helping her with this messaging, but trying very hard to

560
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: make it clear to people how she feels even when

561
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: she doesn't win. And I have a lot of respect

562
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: for that.

563
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: You know, if you want more comments, you could try

564
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: making some sort of commentary about a political figure on

565
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: a podcast. I'm knee deep in comments, I'm neck deep

566
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: in I'm underwater in comments these days. But that's a

567
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: conversation for another time. I got the chance to ask

568
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: Pekayla question and I wanted to follow up on something

569
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: she said in her main presser, because she said she

570
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: was actually scared of this moment of winning gold. She

571
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: was scared of winning gold again because of losing her dad.

572
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: She said, quote everything you do after someone dies is

573
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: a new experience end quote. And I was really processing that,

574
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about that dad passed away in

575
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty suddenly, and since then she has not had

576
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: this moment again. And there's something sort of counterintuitive but

577
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,719
Speaker 1: very relatable about in her head, maybe having a mental

578
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: block of I don't want to win a gold medal

579
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: and not have my dad there. Losing without him is

580
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: a very different experience than winning without him and learning

581
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: what it feels like to do this thing that I've

582
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: wanted my whole life and not be able to look

583
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: to him and hug him and get support from him.

584
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: And it sounded to me like she wasn't really sure

585
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: she was ready to face the reality of winning without

586
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: him to share it with. So take a listen. Here's

587
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: what I asked. Can you expand on that some more?

588
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: Maybe the idea that losing without him was something you

589
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: could handle and you were ready for, but winning and

590
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: having him not here was something that needed more time.

591
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 4: That's kind that's a really thoughtful way to say that.

592
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, I mean the reality of our sport is

593
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: you just lose a lot more than you win, which

594
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: is sort of weird to say when you look back

595
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: on my career. I know, you know statistics and everything,

596
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 3: but still I've I've definitely lost a.

597
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 4: Lot more than I've won.

598
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: So that's that's like, the one thing that's certain is

599
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: that you're not gonna win everything.

600
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Speaker 4: The thing that's really uncertain is if you can win again.

601
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 3: Every every single time I crossed the finish line with

602
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: great skiing and a victory, I'm it's.

603
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 4: Not confidence instilling.

604
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: I'm wondering if I can do it again because I

605
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: know how much it takes, how much effort and precision.

606
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 4: It takes, and I don't know that I can do

607
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: it again.

608
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 3: So that's that's why I like the pressure actually builds

609
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: is because you're like, oh now, people, now, people, I mean,

610
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: this whole season, every single solemn race, I'm.

611
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: Like, oh god, I'm just I am really just.

612
00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 3: Tagging myself into a hole here, because event like the

613
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: one thing that's certain is that that like that wave's

614
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: gonna stop. You don't get to ride that wave forever.

615
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 3: And I've done this so many times. I know the

616
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: wave ends.

617
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: You either fall off or it's just like somebody else wins.

618
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: And in that.

619
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: Moment, the whole world, I'm like, when's it gonna happen?

620
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: When's it going to happen? It just feels really good

621
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: to be able to sort of let those doubts and

622
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: uncertainties go.

623
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Speaker 1: Alex, you know, I love the deep shit, and especially

624
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: with people like Mikayla that do so much media, I

625
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: think she's always authentic but also very prepared and knows

626
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: how to talk to media. And that moment in her

627
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: presser she was very emotional and crying, and the idea

628
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: of saying out loud I think I might have been

629
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: scared of winning a gold medal was so real to

630
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: me and I really wanted to like dive deep, and

631
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: I liked her answer about it, and I wish we

632
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: had a one on one so I could ask her

633
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: even more about it, because I think there's a lot

634
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: to that, and I think when you think about athletes

635
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: who at times may have had mental blocks, or had

636
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: the pressure get to them, And a lot of people

637
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: think that's the case with Mikaela in her previous Olympic stops.

638
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: Diving into that and understanding those blocks I think can

639
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: be really illuminative. Yeah. Absolutely, you know, we're trying to

640
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: set the scene for you and just how chaotic it was.

641
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: She wins. The rest of the race has happened, she's

642
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: doing the podium, she's doing all the media, she's rushed

643
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: to the press, or she's rested the dining area, and

644
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: someone asked her if amid all of that, she had

645
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: ever stopped for a second and actually been able to

646
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: feel proud of what she'd just done. Take a listen.

647
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: To be honest, I think the wonderful thing about this

648
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: day was that I felt proud before it happened because

649
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: of my team, because of the staff and everybody, Like

650
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Speaker 3: we've had meetings and we've had great moments together and

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Speaker 3: we've shared a lot, and I've been really honest and

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Speaker 3: open with everybody about all of the sort of psychology

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Speaker 3: behind it and how much more complicated it can feel

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Speaker 3: then simply skiing. And they've you know, sort of talked

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Speaker 3: me through that and reminded me that even despite all.

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Speaker 4: That, it is as simple as skiing.

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Speaker 3: It is something that I have within myself and we've

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Speaker 3: trained and prepared for.

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Speaker 4: But I think that, you know, we took I think

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Speaker 4: we took.

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Speaker 3: That pride into the day. So that was pretty wonderful.

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Speaker 3: It was like, you just accept that you can do

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Speaker 3: everything and it might not go your way and you're

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Speaker 3: still going to try.

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Speaker 1: A very healthy perspective and frankly a required perspective if

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Speaker 1: you do events like this. It can't be all or nothing.

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Speaker 1: It can't be this forty seconds is the end all

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Speaker 1: be all of whether I've done the work and tried

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Speaker 1: my best and achieved anything. And so accepting that you

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Speaker 1: can do your best, you can do it all right

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Speaker 1: and still not win. Accepting that you can prep as

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Speaker 1: best you can and you can go out there and

673
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Speaker 1: fuck up and that can happen, Like that's required if

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Speaker 1: you do a sport with the margins like this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. It was even funny.

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Speaker 2: A friend texted after she went, being like, Wow, that

678
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Speaker 2: was so close, and I was like, girl, no, like

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Speaker 2: this's this.

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Speaker 1: Really big margin.

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Speaker 2: But like I realized that a second and a half

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Speaker 2: seems insane.

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Speaker 1: Again, girl, you could add the margins of the last

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Speaker 1: seven women's slalom Olympic events combined, and you basically have

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Speaker 1: what she just won by.

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Speaker 2: You know, something that has stood out to be about

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Speaker 2: Mikaela for a real long time.

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Speaker 1: I kind of think.

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Speaker 2: That if Mikayla could get paid to just train and

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Speaker 2: ski and no one would watch, I think she would

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Speaker 2: be really happy with that.

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Speaker 1: It's the love of the game.

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Speaker 2: I think it really is for her. And you know,

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of times when athletes are in

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Speaker 2: the spot like people see like the celebrity, like wow,

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Speaker 2: they're famous. I think she appreciates having a platform to speak.

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Speaker 2: But I think she would also be really happy if

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Speaker 2: she got to ski on the mountains every day and

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Speaker 2: improve and not necessarily even need.

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Speaker 1: To get into the start gate. I hope that's true,

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Speaker 1: because I do know that there are athletes at the

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Speaker 1: end of their careers who say by the end they

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Speaker 1: didn't even like the game or sport anymore. It had

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Speaker 1: kind of got ruined for them. So I would love

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Speaker 1: to hear that the skiing part is what she loves

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Speaker 1: and everything else is just gravy. Yeah, and interesting to

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Speaker 1: hear a thirty year old who we think of as

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Speaker 1: young at least I do to think of a thirty

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Speaker 1: year old giving advice to an eighteen year old like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'm old and wise now, and here's what I understand, kid.

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Speaker 1: But she actually had great advice to her eighteen year

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Speaker 1: old self because someone asked what would you tell her?

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Speaker 1: And she said buckle up, and that one said buckle up,

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Speaker 1: which is so true. So much to come for that

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Speaker 1: eighteen year old, and now again after all these years,

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Speaker 1: back on the podium earning gold in this event, like,

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Speaker 1: just I'm so happy it worked out. Also, Alex, how

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Speaker 1: much awesome shit are we seeing in person at these games?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's almost like you had an Olympic researcher

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Speaker 2: planning out where we would be on each given day.

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Speaker 1: That is very true. Really quick, I do want to mention,

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Speaker 1: since this is our last show before we and the

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Speaker 1: slices will be watching the USA Canada hockey game. We

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Speaker 1: mostly just talked about the coverage of USA hockey and

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Speaker 1: women's hockey in general at these games so far, but

726
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Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about the game. Predominant emotion

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Speaker 1: is fear, followed very closely behind by raging excitement because

728
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Speaker 1: winning every group stage game by a billion d taken

729
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: out Canada at the knees vive nothing. Everything can change

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Speaker 1: in the gold medal game, and Canada will still skate

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Speaker 1: in like the boss ass bitches they are, regardless of

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Speaker 1: whether they're the favorites or not, because they've won so

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Speaker 1: many times at this level and on this stage that

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Speaker 1: I am terrified. But also like for brief seconds before

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Speaker 1: I shut it down and stop it, I have these

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Speaker 1: like ideas of future me celebrating at the arena, celebrating.

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Speaker 2: I have Kelly Stat hitting the post.

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Speaker 1: They're equally bad imaginations. They're both bad.

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Speaker 2: You know something I want to talk about with this

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Speaker 2: gold medal game, and I think, actually, let's just juxtapose

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Speaker 2: alpine skiing and hockey for a minute, because we've talked

742
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Speaker 2: on here about how an alpine's for most athletes, for

743
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Speaker 2: most countries, the biggest prize is not an Olympic gold medal.

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Speaker 2: It is a World Cup title. That is why Mikayla

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Speaker 2: Schiffrin is considered the best of all time. But in

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Speaker 2: women's hockey, it comes down to this gold medal game.

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Speaker 2: And when we look back beginning in nineteen ninety eight,

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Speaker 2: when they added the event. Until very recently, it was

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Speaker 2: the only thing that these athletes had.

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Speaker 1: To warn world championships.

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00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 2: World championships, sure, but the Olympics mean so much more

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Speaker 2: to them, and that is why this game matters so much.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you who listened to my interview

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Speaker 2: with Brittany Bow, I think I even asked her like, oh, like,

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Speaker 2: what have you seen in Hillary now that she has

756
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Speaker 2: the PWHL And she kind of stopped me and was like,

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Speaker 2: the Olympics are still the most important, of course, but

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Speaker 2: I love now that athletes are a able to continue

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Speaker 2: their careers post national team in a way that they

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Speaker 2: haven't been able to do previously. But also I love

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Speaker 2: that this game is still so important to them, and

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Speaker 2: I think it just represents how much women's hockey has

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Speaker 2: grown between nineteen ninety eight and now, and I hope

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Speaker 2: it continues to still have that same importance down the road,

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Speaker 2: regardless if the US and Canada continue to be the

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Speaker 2: most dominant teams.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we got to take a break. When we come

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Speaker 1: back a spin through our new pins. Eileen Goo drives

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Speaker 1: home a point we've been trying to make, and we

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Speaker 1: might not talk about boys on good game but we

771
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Speaker 1: do talk about goo boys stick around. Welcome back, Slice

772
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: says you will be delighted to hear that we run

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Speaker 1: into friend of the show and losure Sophia Kirkby multiple

774
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Speaker 1: times since you heard from her on Monday Show, including

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Speaker 1: once when she literally ran past us and we were like, Sophia, hi,

776
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Speaker 1: and she was like, I'm late for a date. Yet

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Speaker 1: another date and that date ended up being at the

778
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 1: same restaurant that we were walking to. So this one

779
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: was with a very tall Italian police officer and it

780
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: seems like it went very well. Sophia, keep it up, girly.

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Speaker 1: We love following along sometimes literally promise we're not stalking you. Also,

782
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Speaker 1: I want to give you a quick pin update from

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Speaker 1: the strongest neck at the Games. Alex doesn't know how

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00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, but I am running out of space,

785
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: but not out of next strength. Y'all. The pins are

786
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Speaker 1: now creeping toward the very back of my lanyard and

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Speaker 1: I am doubling up in some spaces trying to pin

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Speaker 1: them all together, and I consider that a huge success.

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Speaker 1: Some of my new faves include the Flavor Flave clocks

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Speaker 1: that I got and the public Enemy she got game

791
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: pin also a US skeleton one that has a little

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00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: dog in a helmet on it. I love the Team

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Speaker 1: USA skiing when I got that has a piece of

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00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: pizza with skis and goggles on. There's also a super

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Speaker 1: sick US ski and snowboard when I got, so I

796
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 1: am adding to my collection. Also, winners in the clubhouse

797
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: remain the Panda bear that's curling, Mattie Mastros, Pippy Pin,

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Speaker 1: and Tina the mascot with a gun doing biathlon. That

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Speaker 1: one is so fire. I mean, what can I say, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm a soccer for animals. I would legit marry Tina

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00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: tomorrow if that Stow would have me. Sorry, Brad, you understand.

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Speaker 1: Oh and one more thing I wanted to share you guys.

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Speaker 1: Remember US OPC psychologist Jessica Bartley came on the show

804
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Speaker 1: recently and she said, when it comes to working with

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Speaker 1: Olympic athletes, she never wants to assume a response to

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Speaker 1: a performance. Maybe tenth feels amazing to them, maybe winning

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Speaker 1: isn't what they'd hoped, And we've sort of carried that

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Speaker 1: thought with us a lot here. In fact, you heard

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Speaker 1: Alex's question about Schiffern's expectations versus others expectations while free

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Speaker 1: skier Eileen Goo actually addressed this issue at a press

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Speaker 1: conference on Monday, based on a question she got. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen.

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Speaker 2: Do you see these as two silvers gained or two

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Speaker 2: goals lost?

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Speaker 6: I'm the most decorated free female free skier in history.

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Speaker 6: I think that's an answer in and of itself. How

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Speaker 6: do I say this? Winning a medal at the Olympics

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Speaker 6: is a life changing experience for every athlete. Doing it

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Speaker 6: five times is exponentially harder because every medal is equally

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Speaker 6: hard for me, But everybody else's expectations rise, right, and

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Speaker 6: so the two medals lost situation, to be quite frank

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Speaker 6: with you, I think is kind of a ridiculous perspective

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Speaker 6: to take. I'm showcasing my best skiing. I'm doing things

824
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 6: that quite literally have never been done before, and so

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Speaker 6: I think that is more than good enough.

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Speaker 1: But thank you. I think she freaking nailed that. I

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Speaker 1: think she nailed that. I can't decide if I blame

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Speaker 1: the reporter for the question. I think I kind of do.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of the headline that said they got

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Speaker 1: them forfeited like a bunch of money for not winning

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Speaker 1: in the FIFA Club World Cup, which like, they didn't

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Speaker 1: forfeit it, they just didn't win the game. But the

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Speaker 1: idea of like is that losing the goal. No, she

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Speaker 1: won us over anyway. I think Eileen handled that awesome.

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Speaker 1: We always love that you're listening Slices, but we want

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Speaker 1: you to get in the game every day too. So

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Speaker 1: here's our good game play of the day. If you

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Speaker 1: hear this in time, i e. If you're listening in

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Speaker 1: the morning, we want to see where and how you're

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00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: watching the USA Canada Gold Metal hockey game. So send

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Speaker 1: us your at home setup, your watch party digs, maybe

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00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: a little sneaky second screen while you're pretending to work.

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00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, we want to see it. And whether

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00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 1: you're us or our maple bacon slices up in Canad,

845
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: if you've got celebration shots or videos during or after

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Speaker 1: the game, we want to see those two send them

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Speaker 1: to a good game at Wondermedia Network dot com. Also,

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00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: we have a little bone to pick with our Northern

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00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: Italy Bureau of Slices, because y'all are slacking. How has

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00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: no one alerted us to the existence of the Carnival

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Speaker 1: of Ivrea, a festival in the city of Avrea that

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00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 1: includes a tradition of throwing oranges known as the Battle

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00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: of the Oranges. But Tuglia de la ranche, y'all, this

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00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: is the largest food fight in Italy and surrounding countries,

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Speaker 1: and apparently it's happening right now, right near us. We

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00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: saw some footage on the Washington Post Instagram with the

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Speaker 1: headline citrus flies. Uh incredible. Hello, why aren't we there, Alex?

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Speaker 1: That's our next show field trip. Write it down. Okay,

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Speaker 1: We'll link to the WAPO video and the show notes

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, See you tomorrow. Good game, Mikayla Schiffrin,

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Speaker 1: Good game, Hillary Knight in Brittany bow Fork you the

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