Speaker 1: Up next, Out Loud with Gianno called America's inner cities
Speaker 1: have been flooded with federal money for decades, yet they
Speaker 1: remained riddled with crime, poverty, and terrible schools. And today
Speaker 1: these problems only seem to be getting worse, especially in
Speaker 1: Baltimore in Chicago. Why is this the case and what
Speaker 1: can be done about it? Today? I dig into the
Speaker 1: facts and shed light on some of the unpleasant truths
Speaker 1: with a very special guest. This is Outlied with Gianno Caldwell.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Allied with Gianno Calblo. I'm Giano Calblin
Speaker 1: and I've got an amazing show for you guys this week.
Speaker 1: We're doing something different, but I think you'll enjoy it.
Speaker 1: I'm bringing on my dear friend Kimberly Klasick, who I'm
Speaker 1: sure many of you already know, to co host with
Speaker 1: me this week. Rather than me interviewing her as I
Speaker 1: do with most of my guests, We're gonna tag team
Speaker 1: this episode, having a really honest and in depth conversation
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe even a debate on issues we both
Speaker 1: really care about. Now, for those of you who don't
Speaker 1: know Kim, she's a rock star in the Republican Party
Speaker 1: in the Conservative movement in Camera and for Congress in
Speaker 1: Maryland seven District, which includes much of Baltimore, winning the
Speaker 1: Republican nomination. During the campaign, Kim gained national fame for
Speaker 1: her creative and hard hitting ads calling out Baltimore's Democrat
Speaker 1: leaders for filling the city's residents for decades. Earlier this year,
Speaker 1: following the campaign, Kim founded Red Renaissance, a new and
Speaker 1: influential political action committee dedicated to supporting the next generation
Speaker 1: of conservative leaders. Kim and I will discuss her pack
Speaker 1: and plans for the future, but first we dig in
Speaker 1: to the rise in violent crime devastating American cities, the
Speaker 1: terrible state of education in these cities, and all things COVID.
Speaker 1: Trust me, you don't want to miss this one. Stay
Speaker 1: in your seats. And with that, I want to bring
Speaker 1: on my very dear friend, Kimberly Klasick. Kim, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for doing this. I'm so excited to have
Speaker 1: you on. This is really for me. Uh, it's an honor.
Speaker 1: In a full circle moment, I remember many many years
Speaker 1: ago how we met. You reached out to me on
Speaker 1: Twitter and you wanted to talk about media, and I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, Okay, first and foremost, this young lady
Speaker 1: is very beautiful, Like who is this? Why haven't I
Speaker 1: heard of her just yet? And we madden hit a
Speaker 1: very friendly conversation, and um, from there has been just
Speaker 1: a tremendous friendship of growth. You've grown in media and
Speaker 1: so have I don't think at that point I was
Speaker 1: on Fox News. But the little advice I was able
Speaker 1: to offer you in contact, you took and you blew
Speaker 1: it up and did something that I've never seen anyone
Speaker 1: else do. So it's an honor to be working with
Speaker 1: you and co hosting this show with you. I don't
Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me back. I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about the fact I think that was two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen, and that we met up and you
Speaker 1: were giving me advice at a coffee shop, and if
Speaker 1: you remember all those details, yeah, I do Starbucks on
Speaker 1: Capitol I remember that day. Yeah, yeah. And then from
Speaker 1: there I went and did the show with with Roland Martin,
Speaker 1: I believe Roll one American News Network, and then it
Speaker 1: was Roland Martin. But you you just stayed consistent in
Speaker 1: your approach. You continue to push. We talked regularly throughout
Speaker 1: and then you became a big superstar. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if you recall, during that Starbucks visit on Capitol Hill,
Speaker 1: I said, and I recalled, I said, you can be
Speaker 1: very big. You got it. You just gotta push through, Uh,
Speaker 1: star writing, do TV media, But I think you could
Speaker 1: be a big star. Remember me saying that to you?
Speaker 1: I do, I do, And I didn't believe you. I
Speaker 1: was like talking point talking point indeed, but you are
Speaker 1: a big star. So it worked out. So I'm happy
Speaker 1: to be here with you. So as we talk about
Speaker 1: what's really devastating the violent crime in America cities, it's
Speaker 1: it seemingly always an issue, but it's especially more of
Speaker 1: an issue now in the in the wake of George Floyd,
Speaker 1: and you see how the Democratic Party has been running
Speaker 1: the country from the White House to these Chicago you
Speaker 1: talk about Baltimore, going to Detroit, any of these urban centers,
Speaker 1: for the residents there, it's hell on earth for many
Speaker 1: of those folks. And you really made a name for yourself,
Speaker 1: uh when it comes to Baltimore by shooting film of
Speaker 1: the waste in the city where people were actually living,
Speaker 1: seeing the environment. And President Trump took it upon himself
Speaker 1: to repeat a number of your videos and it really
Speaker 1: put you on a rocket. No. Absolutely, and I'm so
Speaker 1: blessed that. I feel so fortunate for that happening. This
Speaker 1: is why I tell people on of time, like, if
Speaker 1: you have something going on in your community and you
Speaker 1: know it's not right, and you know, government can get
Speaker 1: involved because you're paying taxes and it's their job. Anyways,
Speaker 1: what I did was basically take my cell phone and
Speaker 1: made a couple of videos showing just all of the
Speaker 1: trash in all the crumbling infrastructure, and I kept posting
Speaker 1: it and I did it for about a week. Um,
Speaker 1: and then that's when I got a call from a
Speaker 1: producer at Fox News and they're like, um, can you
Speaker 1: tell us where you are? And I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and she thought I was in another country.
Speaker 1: She had no idea. Yes, that's what's so crazy about it.
Speaker 1: And she said, well, you gotta come on and explain.
Speaker 1: And so I went on Fox and Friends that morning,
Speaker 1: and it just so happened. President Trump was watching at
Speaker 1: that moment, and when he retweeted the videos, he was like, look,
Speaker 1: I know for a fact, we have sent millions of
Speaker 1: dollars to Baltimore. Recently, you know, because right after the
Speaker 1: the riots that we had in two thousand fifteen, after
Speaker 1: the death of Freddy Gray, President Barack Obama and President
Speaker 1: Trump sent a ton of money to Baltimore and into
Speaker 1: that area where I took the video ols that I
Speaker 1: was just showing people. Look, they haven't done anything on
Speaker 1: the ground here, and it's been years, and so I
Speaker 1: just felt very fortunate that the story got picked up
Speaker 1: and people got to see what was going on. And
Speaker 1: you've not stopped since then. You ran for Congress, but
Speaker 1: you're still in the community, You're still in Baltimore, you're
Speaker 1: still talking to the residents. In fact, we have some
Speaker 1: exclusive audio that we want to play from one of
Speaker 1: the residents that you you're you're providing for for our
Speaker 1: show today. Yeah. Well, man, I'm scared to go out myself.
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, you know, we got Baltimore is on
Speaker 1: um track club having three murder in a in a
Speaker 1: in a year for a seven year row climb is up.
Speaker 1: I can't go to the can't go to the gas station,
Speaker 1: gas station people being robbed at the gas station down
Speaker 1: when they pulled their cars up to the punt. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we supposed to do here. Baltimore commons, it's
Speaker 1: just out of control. Baltimo was one of the Uh,
Speaker 1: this is one of the more worst cities for climb
Speaker 1: in America. We're just supposed to do now, Kim, this,
Speaker 1: this is your community. What do you think when you
Speaker 1: hear this? It's the exact truth. And so when we
Speaker 1: see people coming out and talking about defunding the police,
Speaker 1: I want people to know in Baltimore City, especially West Baltimore,
Speaker 1: absolutely no one there wants to defund the police. They
Speaker 1: actually want more of a police presence. And as that
Speaker 1: gentleman was saying that the whole car jacking is through
Speaker 1: the roof right now, armed carjackings, a lot of juveniles
Speaker 1: are doing it. A lot of juveniles are getting away
Speaker 1: with it because they know right now our state's attorney
Speaker 1: isn't really prosecuting juveniles. So we call it a walk
Speaker 1: through here. You know, a police officer might arrest the
Speaker 1: juvenile for an armed carjacking, but he's able to go
Speaker 1: to central booking and walk right out because unfortunately, right
Speaker 1: now they're not really prosecuting juveniles. UM. So it's a
Speaker 1: very scary situation for those that live here. UM. And
Speaker 1: we have a lot of senior citizens. They're the ones
Speaker 1: that actually own their homes in these neighborhoods, and they're
Speaker 1: afraid to go outside. Man. That's that's that's really devastating.
Speaker 1: And and and honestly, you know, you have experienced some
Speaker 1: of these things yourself. It's not as you're just getting audio.
Speaker 1: You've been in these neighborhoods. You've lived in one of
Speaker 1: these neighborhoods before where they were shooting on the block.
Speaker 1: You live knowing, right, correct? Even I guess it was
Speaker 1: maybe two weeks ago. We were at an event one
Speaker 1: of my managers here at Renaissance. They were hosting a
Speaker 1: town hall. We wanted to actually get people together in
Speaker 1: a room at a church, Simmons Morel Baptist Church, and
Speaker 1: just asked them what were their immediate needs right, what
Speaker 1: can we do right this second to cure some of
Speaker 1: the problems. And so we're all sitting there, we talk,
Speaker 1: we're there for about an hour, we go outside, and
Speaker 1: of course, further down the street we hear gunshots. It's
Speaker 1: literally NonStop, right, and and so a lot of times
Speaker 1: we talk about the homicide, but we don't talk about
Speaker 1: the shootings. We don't talk about the attempted murders. We
Speaker 1: don't talk about them. Shootings basically heard and even though
Speaker 1: they don't hit anyone, but those are attempts on someone's life,
Speaker 1: and so we don't talk about that. But that's ongoing
Speaker 1: in these neighborhoods. That's that's terrible. So anything gonna happen
Speaker 1: with the state's attorney there. So our states Attorney Maryland Mosby,
Speaker 1: she's a self proclaimed progressive, so she's not actually prosecuting
Speaker 1: what she calls low level crimes right now. Um, so
Speaker 1: she's not prosecuting those dealing drugs, prostitution. Uh, there's like
Speaker 1: a list of things, and she calls it victimless crimes.
Speaker 1: But we know those crimes lead to bigger crimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's unbelievable at what she does.
Speaker 1: But we have violent repeat offenders on our streets as well.
Speaker 1: And you take a look at what's going on in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: We have shooters that have been caught with handguns scene,
Speaker 1: leaving the scene of a crime, and they still just
Speaker 1: to get to walk free. And it's unbelievable to me.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting to me is we talked a
Speaker 1: lot about criminal justice reform. And when the First Step
Speaker 1: Act came up, we had a lot of conservatives. It
Speaker 1: was a vocal minority, I should say a vocal minority
Speaker 1: of conservatives who were saying, listen, we can't do any
Speaker 1: criminal justice reform because then you're gonna allow those criminal
Speaker 1: back onto the street, lighter sentences. Crime will will get worse,
Speaker 1: it will become worse. When we heard that, a lot
Speaker 1: of us we pushed back on that. But we are
Speaker 1: seeing crime become worse. But can anyone articulate that that's
Speaker 1: because of the criminal justice reform? I e. People may
Speaker 1: think that the laws have been weakened. Therefore the criminals
Speaker 1: have become really bullish on committing to crimes in in
Speaker 1: the area. Do you do you think that might have
Speaker 1: anything to do with it? No? No, And I think
Speaker 1: we're both we both know Doron Smith right, that was
Speaker 1: right right, and he was the one that authored a
Speaker 1: lot of that. For me, the proof is in the pudding, right.
Speaker 1: Most of these crimes and most of the riseing crime
Speaker 1: is happening in cities where you have progressive mayors and
Speaker 1: progressive prosecutors. So it was really criminal justice reform because
Speaker 1: that was something that happened on a federal level. We
Speaker 1: would see it in all areas, right, but we only
Speaker 1: see it in these particular areas that progressives are in charge.
Speaker 1: So I think it's fact that they're soft on criminals altogether.
Speaker 1: I still believe that people should have second chances, especially
Speaker 1: if it is what we call those victimus crimes. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of people that come out of prison
Speaker 1: that want to do the right thing, and I believe
Speaker 1: that they should have the chance to do so well.
Speaker 1: I think with that Criminal Justice Reform, the biggest piece
Speaker 1: of it was the First Step Act allowing individuals as
Speaker 1: they're coming out of prison a chance to get caught
Speaker 1: up on what we got in the tech boom and
Speaker 1: you know, getting some skills understanding how to put their
Speaker 1: resumes together. And so we're not releasing criminals not able
Speaker 1: to then go and get a job, because the last
Speaker 1: thing we wanted for them to end up back in prison.
Speaker 1: So I thought Criminal Justice Reform First Step Act. I
Speaker 1: thought they were both great, at which President Trump got
Speaker 1: more credit for him than he did. He was he
Speaker 1: was the reason he was because the folks that the
Speaker 1: very again vocal minority on the right, because Democrats played
Speaker 1: a game with it too, So Democrats were all for it.
Speaker 1: When Republicans got on board, they were against it. Is
Speaker 1: that all we can't do it. They didn't want Republicans
Speaker 1: to get any credit. And then we had a vocal
Speaker 1: minority on the right, people like Senator Tom Cotton, people
Speaker 1: like the Senator Ted Cruz, who were saying, yeah, we
Speaker 1: don't think we should be getting involved in that. In
Speaker 1: Senator Mike Lee, a former federal prosecutor. Uh, he was
Speaker 1: a very big advocate for it, and he laid out
Speaker 1: some brilliant points to counter all the nonsense from Senator
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz. So that that was that was great. However,
Speaker 1: President Trump was the reason. If it wasn't for him
Speaker 1: pushing it, Mitch McConnell and others as hard as he did,
Speaker 1: it would not have happened. So he does deserve a
Speaker 1: lot of credit. And I still stand by my statement
Speaker 1: which I've made in the past. President Trump has been
Speaker 1: the most productive advocate for policy that impacts black folks
Speaker 1: most We've never seen the president like that on so
Speaker 1: many issues and one term, especially being your term, no
Speaker 1: Democrat or Republicans, So he does deserve that credit, which
Speaker 1: we know Democrats will not give him, not at all.
Speaker 1: And we saw it on the heels of our first
Speaker 1: black president, President Barack Obama, and I think that's also
Speaker 1: what woke a lot of people up in the black community.
Speaker 1: It was like, wow, you know, we had a black
Speaker 1: president and and these are the things that he should
Speaker 1: have been pushing, but it took President Trump to come
Speaker 1: along to get it done. So yes, I thank President
Speaker 1: Trump for doing that, but I really am just so
Speaker 1: disheartened by the progressives that really feel the need to
Speaker 1: basically turn everything around and be soft on criminals when
Speaker 1: they're praying on the individuals living in these dangerous neighborhoods. Indeed,
Speaker 1: so we talked about Baltimore, but you know, I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you as far as Chicago, Um, I know that
Speaker 1: your homicides are up fifty and shootings are up sixty
Speaker 1: three compared to what you had going on in two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Its routine for several dozen people to be
Speaker 1: shot over any given weekend, and we watched that play out.
Speaker 1: And I know, I see on Twitter all the time
Speaker 1: just that the amount of numbers coming out of Chicago
Speaker 1: as far as shootings, I just gotta ask, what are
Speaker 1: people in Chicago saying about the spike in violets. You
Speaker 1: know what, can I gotta tell you, Chicago is my home,
Speaker 1: has been my home forever in a day. I will
Speaker 1: always rep Chicago as hard as I can. I grew
Speaker 1: up on the South Side of Chicago, se hard, seventy
Speaker 1: second in Dorchester, A hundred and nineteenth in Michigan, all
Speaker 1: over the South Side of Chicago. Love the city to
Speaker 1: this day, but I am horrified. I am horrified by
Speaker 1: what I see there on a day to day basis,
Speaker 1: and I'm actually piste the hell off. I'm pissed the
Speaker 1: hell off for a number of reasons in general, but
Speaker 1: I'm piste the hell off, but specifically around something that
Speaker 1: just happened recently in my family's life. Last weekend, I
Speaker 1: was in Italy. I got a call from my little
Speaker 1: sister on a Saturday, Apparently that Friday night, she was
Speaker 1: walking with her infant child from the grocery store, infant
Speaker 1: child and two people approached her, no interactions with him beforehand,
Speaker 1: and they approached her, a man and a woman, both adults,
Speaker 1: and they beat the hell out of her, pushed it
Speaker 1: to the ground, kicked her in her face, kicked in
Speaker 1: her stomach, her body, while her child was there, her
Speaker 1: infant child, he's only like what three or four months old,
Speaker 1: And then they pulled a gun out on her and
Speaker 1: they said, we will kill you and your child. She
Speaker 1: thankfully lived, but so many people in that same situation,
Speaker 1: only by God's grace, but so many people in that
Speaker 1: same situation would have been killed, no question about it,
Speaker 1: and and and never probably would have received justice for it.
Speaker 1: That Chicago Sometimes just came out with an analysis showing
Speaker 1: that since ten since twenty sixteen, over a thousand shooting
Speaker 1: victims a hundred and six that died, there were only
Speaker 1: two convictions, two out of over a thousand. I think
Speaker 1: that number was a thousand thirty three I think was
Speaker 1: the actual number for the analysis. But since this is
Speaker 1: the justice, that they're getting, no justice at all, and meanwhile,
Speaker 1: it I think hardens the criminal. If I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get convicted for it, if I'm not gonna face any
Speaker 1: any real charges for why wouldn't I Why wouldn't I
Speaker 1: walk down the street with an a K forty seven?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't I go and attack somebody just randomly, which
Speaker 1: is something that used to actually do when I was.
Speaker 1: I was growing up. At times you'll see kids that
Speaker 1: would jump on you at the bus, but you weren't
Speaker 1: losing your life per se. They may beat the beat
Speaker 1: you up, or they may try to rob you or something.
Speaker 1: But this is a whole different beast, and it's a
Speaker 1: satanic one it at that. So yeah, I'm really upset
Speaker 1: by how the direction of my city. I think the
Speaker 1: County prosecutor she is a big part of the problem.
Speaker 1: She's a big part of the problem. That's why so
Speaker 1: much bloo hut in the streets of Chicago because she's
Speaker 1: letting the criminals off. Twenty five thousand felony cases dropped,
Speaker 1: including murders under her leadership. This is not an American
Speaker 1: city anymore, as a third world country with some good
Speaker 1: people living in it. And it's it's just really insane,
Speaker 1: and it's shameful where we are at it's time in
Speaker 1: our country. And it's even more shameful that people like
Speaker 1: the Biden administration who said that they were gonna be
Speaker 1: advocates for for those who feel like they've been left
Speaker 1: out of the American dream, they're not advocates for the
Speaker 1: people in Baltimore. They're not advocates for the people in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Joe Joe Biden is an advocate for any of those people.
Speaker 1: He may be an advocate for those who are coming
Speaker 1: in over our southern boarder, the migrants that are coming
Speaker 1: over here bringing thousands of cases of COVID, he may
Speaker 1: be an advocate for them. In fact, he's probably their president,
Speaker 1: because that seems to be the only folks that he
Speaker 1: cares about. When you have American citizens who are suffering
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis in places like Chicago
Speaker 1: and Baltimore, it's ridiculous. It's upsetting, and I cannot stand
Speaker 1: this ish anymore. I'm very disappointed. I am so sorry
Speaker 1: that your cousin, I mean your family and my little sister,
Speaker 1: my my blood little sister. Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm glad that she's okay. I guess
Speaker 1: the prosecutor there is, is that Kim Fox? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: Kim Fox's county. Yes. So what are Chicago's liberal political
Speaker 1: leaders and people like Kim Fox, the prosecutors, what are
Speaker 1: they doing to reverse this trend? I mean, we've they've
Speaker 1: been trying to reverse the trend. And look, let me
Speaker 1: not saying that they've not necessarily been trying to reverse
Speaker 1: the trend. They've been saying they're trying to reverse the trend. However,
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, if you're gonna drop twenty five thousand
Speaker 1: felony cases, including murder, then that tells me uh and
Speaker 1: her predecessor closed way more cases and had more convictions
Speaker 1: than than Kim Fox. That tells me you're not a
Speaker 1: part of the selution, You're part of the problem. So
Speaker 1: how we reverse the trend? New leadership? Get rid of
Speaker 1: the county prosecutor, bringing somebody who's gonna be tough on crime.
Speaker 1: That can be a Republican or even a Democrat. You
Speaker 1: can have sensible policies that that can be supportive of
Speaker 1: those who want to have second chances, that were willing
Speaker 1: to put in the work, but punish the criminals and
Speaker 1: especially those repeat offenders. You can. You can do all
Speaker 1: of that as a county prosecutor. Ours just isn't And
Speaker 1: the mayor is another person the blame game that she's doing. Oh,
Speaker 1: violence is so bad in Chicago because of racism and
Speaker 1: sexism and people, you know, it's just ridiculous, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know if these people are ready to start working
Speaker 1: at MSNBC or what these talking points are really for.
Speaker 1: But it makes no sense, it's not based in fact.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of Chicagoans, a lot of
Speaker 1: Chicagoans are upset with the leadership of these folks and
Speaker 1: I can only hope, I can only hope that they're
Speaker 1: gonna do the right thing when it comes to election time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope so too. In Baltimore, just to
Speaker 1: give every to feel for this, in Baltimore City, of
Speaker 1: the homicides are ever solved in Baltimore County, the neighboring
Speaker 1: county where we have a moderate Democratic attorney, of those
Speaker 1: homicides get solved, and so you have to look at
Speaker 1: it and say, it is definitely leader. Them get solved
Speaker 1: in Baltimore County, only gets solved in Baltimore City. And
Speaker 1: that's like I said, they're neighboring county. So it's crazy
Speaker 1: and it's definitely comes on to leadership. What do you
Speaker 1: think is causing the surgeon crime in Chicago? Do you
Speaker 1: think that's part of the defund the police movement? You know,
Speaker 1: it's interesting when it comes to the defund the police movement,
Speaker 1: I think if we're just purely looking at the numbers.
Speaker 1: Just overall in the country, sixty three of the sixty
Speaker 1: six largest police jurisdiction saw increases in crime, and at
Speaker 1: least one category. If you saw the Fox News polling,
Speaker 1: it showed eventy seven percent I believe it was, but
Speaker 1: it was in the seventies seventy percentile. Believe that there
Speaker 1: is much more crime than that was last year and
Speaker 1: probably has been in many, many years decades. I mean,
Speaker 1: the last time we saw a crime like this, I think,
Speaker 1: really and truly was during the crack epidemic. I think
Speaker 1: in the eighties the nineties, especially in Chicago inner cities.
Speaker 1: We saw how badly those cities were beaten up by
Speaker 1: the drug dealers and the gangs that were controlling the
Speaker 1: market of drugs. We saw how how those things impacted
Speaker 1: cities like Los Angeles. We saw it in New York,
Speaker 1: we saw it in Baltimore, we saw it in Chicago.
Speaker 1: But things did change and get better at a point.
Speaker 1: But now it seems as though we're back on that trend,
Speaker 1: which is completely unfortunate. But Democrats have themselves to blame. Honestly,
Speaker 1: George Floyd Dyan was not a mission slip to say
Speaker 1: we're gonna defund the police, or we're gonna create an
Speaker 1: environment where criminals can kind of do their thing and
Speaker 1: and decriminalized crime, if you will, that's the term, right,
Speaker 1: criminalized crime. That's where we are now. Democrats across the
Speaker 1: country have decriminalized crime. Therefore, you see places like San
Speaker 1: Francisco where they go into Walgreens with garbage bags steal
Speaker 1: everything off the chef while people watch, because they have
Speaker 1: laws in place which says you can't you can't even call.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's you can't call the police,
Speaker 1: but you definitely can't get involved while they're still in
Speaker 1: you gotta let them go. It's this insanity on every
Speaker 1: level and not worthy to be in any American city.
Speaker 1: So when I think about polaces like Chicago to defund
Speaker 1: policeman movement, it's the mentality that even elevates criminals, the
Speaker 1: fact that they know that the police um either won't
Speaker 1: come or if they call, they're called, they won't be
Speaker 1: They won't even engage the criminal. In some cases, there's
Speaker 1: a law on the books in Chicago, a recent one
Speaker 1: which was a part of their police reform, where they
Speaker 1: can't even they can't even chase criminals now, and criminals
Speaker 1: can make anonymous complaints about police officers and they can
Speaker 1: lose everything with no evidence at all, no facts. They
Speaker 1: can make anonymous complaints to you know, police brutality, et cetera,
Speaker 1: and they'll lose their jobs with no uh, with with
Speaker 1: no evidence. And that's where we are in this country.
Speaker 1: And it's a terrible time. So it really is, and
Speaker 1: that's what we have going on here also in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely that we need to get to a commercial break,
Speaker 1: But I hope you all enjoying the conversation. I'm certainly
Speaker 1: glad to have Kim co host this with me, and
Speaker 1: I'm really glad that we're able to really talk about
Speaker 1: these issues and not that she has this this pack
Speaker 1: red renaissance. Kim is endorsing and putting candidates in place
Speaker 1: who will fund the police, who will be supportive of
Speaker 1: criminal justice reform and second chances, but also understand that
Speaker 1: those who are repeat offenders, you're losing your second chances
Speaker 1: the more you do this, so you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be tough and face the full penalty of whatever you did.
Speaker 1: So I appreciate the conversation. We need the policy here
Speaker 1: for a quick break, but when we come back, Kim
Speaker 1: and I will dig into the problems with education in Baltimore,
Speaker 1: in Chicago, back in the moment. So it's no secret
Speaker 1: that inner cities have notoriously bad education systems with failing
Speaker 1: public schools. You can look no further than Baltimore to
Speaker 1: see just how devastating an impact these schools have on
Speaker 1: the community. So what I did is I went and
Speaker 1: I got some exclusive audio to talk to someone in
Speaker 1: Baltimore City basically dealing with the poor education system tasical. Listen,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's no hope for our kids. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have a family, I have nephews that's in high
Speaker 1: school right now, and a Baltimore public high school students
Speaker 1: earn a below one point g p A. How is that?
Speaker 1: How is that helping our kids? How can our kids
Speaker 1: go forward? And there's no hope, there's no hope for
Speaker 1: our kids, and we need to do something. That is
Speaker 1: just so depressing to hear from a resident of Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think when you hear such hopelessness?
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's I think it's been a reality
Speaker 1: for people in the black community for decades. I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why there's been so many
Speaker 1: people who champion charter schools. There's a charter school in Chicago.
Speaker 1: It's called Urban Prep, and it Urban Prep. This is
Speaker 1: mostly black, but they have like Latino students too, and
Speaker 1: that I know they had some white students that came
Speaker 1: in at a particular time. But I went to the
Speaker 1: school to check it out for myself. Because their biggest
Speaker 1: thing or play is and what they're celebrated for is
Speaker 1: they get a hundred graduation. They have a hundred percent
Speaker 1: graduation rate. So those who come into the school, they
Speaker 1: stick with them. They do tutor sessions, they give individual learning,
Speaker 1: and they ensure that these students graduate. Now, these aren't
Speaker 1: folks that they're just passing along. Because you hear that,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, so they must be just saying, okay,
Speaker 1: participation trophy, you get to go to you get to
Speaker 1: graduated high school and get your diploma. Now they're really
Speaker 1: really working with the students to ensure their individual success.
Speaker 1: And I think charter schools are supreme model for good
Speaker 1: education and individual learning. Was because some of these charter
Speaker 1: schools end up being trade schools and we've got some
Speaker 1: brilliant young people across the country, of course, but there's
Speaker 1: so much I think smarts in the hood, if you will.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of kids who may not
Speaker 1: be proficient, but they're very smart people and could be so.
Speaker 1: In Chicago, UH, Chicago public schools of elementary schools tested
Speaker 1: at or above the proficiency level for reading and tested
Speaker 1: or above that level from math. Also, middle school students
Speaker 1: tested at or above the proficiency level for reading and
Speaker 1: tested at or above that level for math. Eighteen percent
Speaker 1: for high school students test to add above that proficient
Speaker 1: level for reading, test to edder above that proficient level
Speaker 1: from math. Those are horrible numbers. I mean, I if
Speaker 1: I was married Chicago, I would be embarrassed that I
Speaker 1: got all these students in in my in my city
Speaker 1: who aren't even testing well at the proficiency level. This
Speaker 1: is an embarrassment in every way. This is exactly why
Speaker 1: the h we gotta break the backs of these teachers
Speaker 1: unions who are secured UH from being fired in many cases,
Speaker 1: and they're awful teachers. We got some great teachers out
Speaker 1: there to go out there way. They spend their own money,
Speaker 1: they go by their own supplies, they do. They tutor
Speaker 1: kids after school with no additional pay. We got some
Speaker 1: who really care about young minds, but we also got
Speaker 1: a lot who don't care, and they just want to
Speaker 1: get a check. And this is beyond unfortunate that has
Speaker 1: been allowed to continue. But we know why it's been
Speaker 1: allowed to continue. Eat your unions give to democratic politicians.
Speaker 1: Democratic politicians mostly run major urban centers, and those folks
Speaker 1: allow for these failures to continue, thereby creating another generation
Speaker 1: of individuals who will never live up to their fullest potential.
Speaker 1: And that's what's really upsetting for me. Yeah, and it's upsetting.
Speaker 1: And we have similar numbers here in Baltimore. A lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know this, but in Baltimore City, nine
Speaker 1: out of ten Black boys and not read at grade level.
Speaker 1: Nine out of ten. Yeah, Sean Handy talks about it
Speaker 1: a lot, but people don't really mention it. But not
Speaker 1: out of ten black boys can't read at grade level.
Speaker 1: That's an insane number. I know. That's I don't like
Speaker 1: to I would think that that would be almost impossible.
Speaker 1: Nine out of ten, you would think so, But you
Speaker 1: know what's so crazy too, And I don't know how
Speaker 1: it is in Chicago. But here in Baltimore City. You know,
Speaker 1: most school boards, you elect your school board members. Right
Speaker 1: in Baltimore, the mayor actually appoints the school board members.
Speaker 1: And so of course it's our our Democrat mayor who
Speaker 1: appoints basically their friends that continue on with the same
Speaker 1: agenda that they want to push and help them get
Speaker 1: the vendor contractors for their other friends. And so it's
Speaker 1: this vicious cycle, and it's it's almost like the parents
Speaker 1: have no way of controlling what's going on. And so
Speaker 1: you know, when I ran for office, I ran on
Speaker 1: school choice, and it was interesting because there were a
Speaker 1: lot of parents that were for it, um, but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think they felt like it was possible. And
Speaker 1: I could see how you could feel that way, uh,
Speaker 1: just seeing how bad the school system has been, you know,
Speaker 1: their entire lives. Um. But what's your personal experience with
Speaker 1: the school system in Chicago. I mean I grew up
Speaker 1: there and went to elementary school, high school there. Uh,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, just like I said, when I
Speaker 1: was growing up, there was some I thought there were
Speaker 1: some teachers that they cared, but you see a lot
Speaker 1: that just simply there for a paycheck. I remember when
Speaker 1: I was I had to be in what third grade? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I was in third grade. I was a
Speaker 1: good low elementary school. Was that third grade or fourth?
Speaker 1: Maybe it was fourth, I don't know, maybe it was
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth whatever, But I never forget this day.
Speaker 1: I was in a classroom in this particular teacher. He
Speaker 1: didn't he he was telling me that, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of settle down, stop talking, or whatever the case is.
Speaker 1: And I was never the kind of kid that would
Speaker 1: talk back to the teachers because I grew up in
Speaker 1: the house where we were told you have to respect adults,
Speaker 1: no matter who they are, so you know, and then
Speaker 1: you have the respect for your teachers. Anyway, they teach
Speaker 1: you every day and you get sent to the principal
Speaker 1: office some kind of punishments, dispension. So I didn't want
Speaker 1: any of that. And I think I may have been
Speaker 1: suspended in school maybe one time in my life, maybe,
Speaker 1: I think. But this teacher who was so offended for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, decided to take come to me, pick me
Speaker 1: up by my shirt. I'm a little kid, and throw
Speaker 1: me on the desk, and I'm like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a kid. I can and I'm not gonna try to
Speaker 1: fight a teacher. This guy was in his he was
Speaker 1: in his twenties and I was a kid. But you teend,
Speaker 1: you tend to see those kind of things happen. And
Speaker 1: he literally he had graduated college not that long ago
Speaker 1: before he had started teaching, maybe like a year or
Speaker 1: two before. And I'm like, dude, why are you even
Speaker 1: here as a teacher like you commend violence against students
Speaker 1: and a young a very young one at that isn't
Speaker 1: it would be different if you're in high school and
Speaker 1: you're a senior and one of the kids trying to
Speaker 1: get tough with you or something like that. I can
Speaker 1: understand it going there, but not for somebody who's like
Speaker 1: ten years old. So those kind of things do happen,
Speaker 1: and it is super unfortunate. But that's where we've been
Speaker 1: for many, many years. So when you talk about the
Speaker 1: folks in Balti More who don't believe the school choice
Speaker 1: can happen, it's because the politicians there have have chosen
Speaker 1: that route. So there are a lot more hopeless in
Speaker 1: places like Baltimore in Chicago that they're going to get
Speaker 1: a good quality education because they know the teachers unions
Speaker 1: have everything on lock. And the bad teachers no matter
Speaker 1: just about whatever they do, they stay in their jobs
Speaker 1: because the union is protecting them. And that that's discouraging
Speaker 1: for parents, I think, all across the country to know
Speaker 1: that and to know what is being taught in these
Speaker 1: schools these days. No, I totally agree. I can't believe
Speaker 1: he was doing that to you at elementary level. That's
Speaker 1: why that was well. And I wish I remember his name.
Speaker 1: I got a lawsuit coming. I don't remember. He probably
Speaker 1: is no longer a teacher there. He may have lasted
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Maybe I don't know, or yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I just got fired. I don't know, and maybe,
Speaker 1: but I doubt he got fired, so he's Uh. It's
Speaker 1: terrible times. But this happens a lot across the urban
Speaker 1: centers and sometimes kids do take it there. But as
Speaker 1: an adult, you should know a kid as a kid.
Speaker 1: So leave it alone and let the let the police
Speaker 1: deal with it is what they should be doing. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: for real, And I just wanted to read a quote
Speaker 1: real quick. The late Walter Williams of George Mason University
Speaker 1: once wrote the following in two thousands sixteen in thirteen
Speaker 1: of Baltimore thirty nine high schools that a single student
Speaker 1: scored proficient on the state's and mathematics exam. Citywide, only
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of Baltimore students past the state's English test.
Speaker 1: And here's the critical part. Money is not the problem
Speaker 1: of the nation's one largest school system. Baltimore ranks third,
Speaker 1: and spending per pupil, that's third, so we're right behind.
Speaker 1: I think it goes New York City, Boston, Baltimore, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just wild to me that we get
Speaker 1: so much money. But how can the education se be
Speaker 1: feeling so much if it received so much funding, Like,
Speaker 1: how does that even make any sense? Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think you clearly laid it out for us, Kim
Speaker 1: when you talked about especially you being kind of inner
Speaker 1: circle in terms of being a political understanding the Baltimore politics.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Republicans don't understand Baltimore's politics.
Speaker 1: And as part of the reason why when you ran,
Speaker 1: people trying to write you off as like a gimmick
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, she did a couple of videos that
Speaker 1: Trump posted. Now she's gonna try to run for Baltimore
Speaker 1: and nobody's gonna vote for you. But then you created
Speaker 1: a movement right now, but I think you you you
Speaker 1: set it up for us perfectly in terms of how
Speaker 1: the corruption takes place. Follow the money. Follow the money
Speaker 1: every time. Uh, these folks get into office and then
Speaker 1: they give their friends these kickbacks, these deals, and as
Speaker 1: you said, they do it for the vendor privileges, give
Speaker 1: million dollar contracts, and a lot of times these are
Speaker 1: their their donors. So yeah, where's the money. Where's the
Speaker 1: money going in the pockets of the vendors and the
Speaker 1: donors and the donors who donate to get these folks
Speaker 1: in office and they get these contracts. Meanwhile, Uh, the
Speaker 1: unions are still winning big time. Meanwhile, the mayor can
Speaker 1: say that they care, but you don't see the substance
Speaker 1: of them caring to change things around. In places like
Speaker 1: Chicago and Baltimore, it's more empty promises and no action
Speaker 1: there there lifting their duties and they fell in their residence. Yeah, no, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean we get close to sixteen thousand dollars per
Speaker 1: student in Baltimore City. That's why we're the third highest
Speaker 1: per people spending. And we still have schools where they
Speaker 1: don't have heat air conditioning, and they're still dealing with
Speaker 1: lead pipes. Uh. So there's a lot of schools, especially
Speaker 1: on the West Side, where kids can't even drink out
Speaker 1: of the water fountains. Um. So yeah, I mean we're
Speaker 1: getting a ton of money, but who knows where just going.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, it wasn't it some years ago,
Speaker 1: if I recall correctly, some years ago, there was a
Speaker 1: study or it was like a maybe like a local
Speaker 1: TV reporter, local news station went into a school and
Speaker 1: it was it was like in a winner and they
Speaker 1: didn't have he'd what was that situation? And has that
Speaker 1: been rectified? Yeah? So that was our our last mayor
Speaker 1: she was in office, Mayor Katherine Pugh, who's you know,
Speaker 1: later was indicted for pay to play. Um. But in
Speaker 1: other words, to your point, to your point, literally demonstrate
Speaker 1: what you just said. Okay, got it right. And so
Speaker 1: it was wild because one of the teachers in one
Speaker 1: of the schools posted this picture that went viral of
Speaker 1: all the students sitting there with their winter coats on,
Speaker 1: and then she took like a picture of the thermostat
Speaker 1: showing that it was sixteen degrees in the classroom. And
Speaker 1: so because that went viral, and you know, social media
Speaker 1: is good, you know, in a lot of ways. Because
Speaker 1: that went viral. Then everybody started questioning what was going on,
Speaker 1: and um, she said, oh it must be the school
Speaker 1: board is is not making the right decision. So instead
Speaker 1: of actually changing out members of the school board, she
Speaker 1: actually added four more seats to the school board so
Speaker 1: she could appoint four more friends. Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: Rama Manue will say the best. Never let what do
Speaker 1: you how do you say, never let chaos go to waste?
Speaker 1: What man Never let a good a good crisis go
Speaker 1: to waste good crisis? Clearly she said, man I see
Speaker 1: more opportunity to make money, and so yeah, and and
Speaker 1: and and the results where she went to jail afterwards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she went to jail for a little bit and then
Speaker 1: they released her thanks to the pandemic. Oh wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: we got out. Speaking of COVID, let's shift the latest
Speaker 1: with the pandemic. Right after a quick break, Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Outline with Giano called but I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: have my dear friend co host the show with me.
Speaker 1: The only repeat guest ever out of almost fifty episodes,
Speaker 1: Kimberly Clasic is in the house and certainly glad to
Speaker 1: have her give her vast knowledge on the issues that
Speaker 1: people care about that are impacting families across the country,
Speaker 1: and really putting the Democratic Party's failure on display. A
Speaker 1: lot of folks, uh didn't realize how badly some of
Speaker 1: these cities were running and performing, and you exposed it
Speaker 1: all in a campaign that so I'm so so happy
Speaker 1: to be here with you. And before we went to break,
Speaker 1: before you tossed us to break, we were talking about uh.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the mayor and who was released, the former
Speaker 1: mayor of Baltimore who went to jail for pay to play,
Speaker 1: and she was released early for COVID. So you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting that we're now talking about COVID in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. I know, there was a lot
Speaker 1: of folks who felt like, man, most of the country
Speaker 1: is now vaccinated, we can finally give it to the
Speaker 1: mass and go back to our lives as we used
Speaker 1: to live them. I was happy about it. I was excited.
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of the people were. And we
Speaker 1: were told by Joe Biden and Dr Anthony Fauci, once
Speaker 1: you get vaccinated, you can get rid of the mask,
Speaker 1: go back to your life, encourage your family to get
Speaker 1: vaccinated or I remember when they said, well, if you
Speaker 1: hit COVID before then you're gonna have this natural immunity
Speaker 1: to you won't be able to get it again. Or
Speaker 1: you you it's just like that's what It's just like
Speaker 1: being vaccinated. And then everything turned. It's like the messaging
Speaker 1: at the c d C, the White House, local government
Speaker 1: officials is all over the place, and we saw what
Speaker 1: benefits they received. And I hate to say it like this,
Speaker 1: but it's true. We saw what benefits that they received
Speaker 1: in the last election by virtue of locking down the
Speaker 1: entire country, ensuring there was mass mail in voting. Uh,
Speaker 1: they did a number of things. And now we're at
Speaker 1: a place where soon enough we're gonna be going into
Speaker 1: another election in the fear of COVID and the new
Speaker 1: delta variant as being dialed up tremendously. So no one
Speaker 1: really knows what may happen again, or if the country
Speaker 1: is gonna shut down again and go back into a
Speaker 1: depression after all of what we experienced. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Kimberly, So for me, it's very personal,
Speaker 1: you know, Like you know, I ran for Congress in
Speaker 1: Maryland seventh and um, you know here in Maryland we
Speaker 1: allow unsolicited mail in ballots, and this is something that
Speaker 1: Governor Ron De Santis is trying to tackle in Florida
Speaker 1: right now, we have supposedly a Republican governor and Governor Hogan,
Speaker 1: but he's not doing anything about it. When you have
Speaker 1: unsolicited mail in ballots come in, it's not like absentee ballots.
Speaker 1: It's you know, these ballots come anywhere. Um, it could
Speaker 1: be a former resident of a home and that new
Speaker 1: resident could just fill it out and send it back
Speaker 1: in the way they want to. And then also, unfortunately Maryland,
Speaker 1: ballot harvesting is legal, so we had a lot of
Speaker 1: people on my opponent's side that would go to nursing
Speaker 1: homes and other areas and literally just collect ballots for people.
Speaker 1: And so when you have unsolicited mail in ballots, if
Speaker 1: if they wanted to help somebody that didn't receive a
Speaker 1: ballot with another ballot, they could just basically request one
Speaker 1: or even just pick up another one to fill it
Speaker 1: out for them. So on election night, we thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a pretty good night, but the very
Speaker 1: next day we had a lot of mail in ballots
Speaker 1: counted and we actually ended up with more mail in
Speaker 1: ballots than we did voters in our Yeah, so so
Speaker 1: it allows people to basically get into fraudulent activity. But
Speaker 1: that's something that we should have been tackling in the meantime.
Speaker 1: And so, now, like you said, we see COVID coming back,
Speaker 1: they just continue to move the goal post. Right, And
Speaker 1: we first heard about it, it was, oh, we gotta
Speaker 1: flatten the curve. Right, it was flatten the curve for
Speaker 1: two weeks that it was this and was that, Like
Speaker 1: you said, the vaccine. Now they're telling us, oh, the
Speaker 1: vaccine doesn't really work. Still got to wear a mask. Oh,
Speaker 1: now you know, unvaccinated people, they must go and get
Speaker 1: a vaccine. Like you know, they continue to move the
Speaker 1: goal post because I do think now they are looking
Speaker 1: at two they're looking at the fact that they didn't
Speaker 1: do anything to secure the border. Like we talked about,
Speaker 1: crime and violence is out of control when Democrat areas.
Speaker 1: So it's not looking very good for them. And even
Speaker 1: when it came to the COVID relief bill, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of money that is still caught up in that
Speaker 1: and didn't really make it to those in need. And
Speaker 1: so if you look at it, the administration the Body
Speaker 1: administration didn't accomplish a whole lot. So I guess to them,
Speaker 1: why not take advantage of another election with COVID. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's I think that's a really
Speaker 1: important point. And I also want to point out that
Speaker 1: the unemployment rates in califern Fownia, in New York, which
Speaker 1: it was at eight point five percent, in California eight
Speaker 1: point nine percent, and uh New York remained significantly higher
Speaker 1: in February than the national six point to average. Unemployment
Speaker 1: in New York City was still at twelve point nine percent.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the the real issue, I think for a
Speaker 1: lot of folks is now what do they do. We
Speaker 1: were supposed to be, not necessarily in a post COVID world.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to be in a place where we have
Speaker 1: the solution to the problem, which was the vaccine. Now
Speaker 1: we have a different variant. They're talking about passports, uh
Speaker 1: COVID passports, which I think it's really ridiculous. Like we
Speaker 1: went from you can't and I know people have made
Speaker 1: this point, but yeah, you know, we we can't us
Speaker 1: get be identified to have somebody with an I D
Speaker 1: to go and vote. But yeah, we're gonna get your
Speaker 1: health record passport like it's kind of ridiculous and it's
Speaker 1: stupid in that way. I don't think that it should
Speaker 1: be anyone's business if person is vaccinated or not, unless
Speaker 1: they want to tell them that if you are a
Speaker 1: person that's overweight, if your person is obese, if your
Speaker 1: person would pre existing conditions, then perhaps you should be
Speaker 1: one that wears a mask. Definitely get vaccinated, because those
Speaker 1: are a big bulk of the people who died from
Speaker 1: COVID last year and this year. Those who were have
Speaker 1: the preexisting conditions or overweight or obese, and with where
Speaker 1: we are now, it appears to be a lot of
Speaker 1: government overreach and dealing with what the issue truly is.
Speaker 1: It's you shouldn't require citizens to make a medical decision
Speaker 1: for themselves and unless also keep in mind some people
Speaker 1: have reportedly died after they receive their shots, and I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to make people hesitant from getting the shot.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not trying to be the boogeyman on
Speaker 1: that issue, but there are people who are concerned about
Speaker 1: their health because this pick. These shots have emergency authorization,
Speaker 1: but they've not been FDA approved, So some people want
Speaker 1: to ensure that the FDA has fully approved it. Not
Speaker 1: only that for those who already have had COVID, they're
Speaker 1: following the science. And I saw a friend of mine
Speaker 1: just yesterday he said, listen, I don't I don't need
Speaker 1: to go get vaccinated. I had COVID. I'm gonna follow
Speaker 1: the science. Which the Democratic Party used to be the
Speaker 1: Party of science. I'm guessing that was just a facade
Speaker 1: at this point because they're not following the advice that
Speaker 1: was then put out and a number of times from
Speaker 1: a number of doctors, just like when Trump said, hey, um,
Speaker 1: if you get the hydra coded Quinn, this is called it.
Speaker 1: It's a Z pack. Again, I can't think of how
Speaker 1: to pronounce him anyway, when he said, hey, you take
Speaker 1: this and and and and the survival rate is better,
Speaker 1: and all the reporters, the media and even a number
Speaker 1: of doctors came out against that, and he turned out
Speaker 1: to be right. The survival rate I think increased or
Speaker 1: something like that after people would have that that particular medicine.
Speaker 1: And just imagine how many people would have been saved.
Speaker 1: Head the media not ridiculed President Trump for saying something
Speaker 1: that ended up being true. We could have saved a
Speaker 1: lot of lots, So people are really following the science anymore,
Speaker 1: and it's more political in a lot of cases than
Speaker 1: it is science based. And that's what's really troubling now.
Speaker 1: A live decisions are being dictated based on the politics
Speaker 1: of a governor or a mayor, and that's insane, No,
Speaker 1: it is, and it's so crazy about it. I'm one
Speaker 1: of those people where I'm listening to my doctor, so
Speaker 1: I see an asthma and allergy specialist once a month
Speaker 1: just because I always have dealt with asthma really bad,
Speaker 1: and apparently with the vaccine, they have been seeing respiratory issues.
Speaker 1: So I was told to wait and to kind of
Speaker 1: see what happens with other people dealing with the same
Speaker 1: issues that I have. So I personally have not been
Speaker 1: vaccinated UM. I also had COVID right when it we
Speaker 1: really started talking about it. That was in what was it,
Speaker 1: March when I had UM and so yeah, we were
Speaker 1: told that we wouldn't have the antibodies. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they said forever obviously, but no, I know the
Speaker 1: risk as somebody that's not vaccinated, and I personally choose
Speaker 1: to take the risk instead of choosing to take the vaccine,
Speaker 1: not knowing if it's going to trigger a n asthma
Speaker 1: attack and have a bad effect. So I'm gonna listen
Speaker 1: to my doctor before I listened to Joe Biden to
Speaker 1: like a smart decision. Listening to Joe Biden these days
Speaker 1: it's not worth while. And half the time he doesn't
Speaker 1: even know he's president, so we it's tough to try
Speaker 1: to listen to Joe Biden no much of anything, and
Speaker 1: it's it seems as the other media has been protecting
Speaker 1: him on all his his uh his his misspeaking to
Speaker 1: put it mildly, because some of his laws is not
Speaker 1: a miss misspoke situation. Uh. And I'm I'm sure with
Speaker 1: all the new information coming in about about the delta variant,
Speaker 1: are you more concerned than you were about COVID previously
Speaker 1: because they said this is a stronger variation of the
Speaker 1: original strain of COVID. Are you concerned? I mean, I
Speaker 1: definitely think about it. You know, I travel with my
Speaker 1: pack every week, and so I meet a lot of
Speaker 1: new people all the time. But that's right, because you
Speaker 1: do events multiple times a week. Yeah, so I but
Speaker 1: I also get tested often too, so because you have
Speaker 1: to travel correct, and you know, the last thing I
Speaker 1: want is to like give any kind of variant to
Speaker 1: somebody else, so exactly, and you know, I have a
Speaker 1: five year old daughter as well, so we got to
Speaker 1: just keep you know, track of it. But you know,
Speaker 1: that's how I choose to live my life. And I'm
Speaker 1: fine with that. And hopefully if I get it proved
Speaker 1: to go and get the vaccine, I will. But for
Speaker 1: right now, think about it with Joe Biden in his
Speaker 1: town hall, what was that two weeks ago he was
Speaker 1: telling people on stage, Look, if you get vaccinated, you
Speaker 1: can live life normally. And literally within days, he completely
Speaker 1: changed his chune about it. Yeah, and that's we don't
Speaker 1: need that kind of leadership, especially when there's a public
Speaker 1: health emergency. And let's also keep in mind Joe Biden
Speaker 1: ran on the platform that Donald Trump mishandled COVID, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna being honest, there was some I don't think
Speaker 1: he he took it seriously in the way, but when
Speaker 1: he came at the hospital, I just thought he did
Speaker 1: too much. Like that should have been his point where
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, there is a serious disease. Folks,
Speaker 1: wear your masks etcetera, etcetera. And I gave the Democrats
Speaker 1: and the media more uh more soundbites for them to
Speaker 1: play over and over and say that he didn't take
Speaker 1: it seriously. So I thought when he came out at
Speaker 1: President Trump came at the hospital, when he did the
Speaker 1: one on the balcony of the White House with all
Speaker 1: the music and the sound, that was like, bro, you're
Speaker 1: doing don my old question doing the most. Yeah, you see,
Speaker 1: he could not breathe up there right for air. I
Speaker 1: was really nervous because of course I think asthma immediately. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I think he probably could have done
Speaker 1: a little bit more to say, look, you know what,
Speaker 1: I got vaccinated and and it is serious and something
Speaker 1: that we should all just stop politicizing. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: look at it as President Trump, no matter what he
Speaker 1: says or does, he's going to get bashed. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's been the case. But he's also given some
Speaker 1: reasons to bash him too. I think that would be
Speaker 1: one of them. And as much as I would support
Speaker 1: the policies in which he passed on the number of occasions,
Speaker 1: I'm still willing to call him out wherever necessary, because
Speaker 1: that was just not that was awful. That was awful.
Speaker 1: But but that's here nor there. What do you make
Speaker 1: of people with like New York Mirror Bill de Blasio
Speaker 1: essentially saying unvaccinated people won't have access to the same
Speaker 1: races and freedoms is vaccinated people? What what do you
Speaker 1: make of that? Um? I feel like that's the new form.
Speaker 1: It's like modern day segregation, right, I mean, it's that's wild.
Speaker 1: I saw the mayor in Boston, black woman Democrat, she said,
Speaker 1: how is this any different than asking slaves for their papers? Right?
Speaker 1: I mean it's to me, it's it's segregation. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: here the unvaccinated, here the vaccinated. They already seem to
Speaker 1: want to shame the unvaccinated. I think it's a personal choice,
Speaker 1: and I don't think we should be taking it down
Speaker 1: this road. But Mayor built a Blasio. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: never shocked at the things that he says and does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's gotten to the point where we just
Speaker 1: already know he's he lost his way a long time ago.
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever really had it. But you know,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, there's some Democrats out there where
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this is a good part. I've had
Speaker 1: Democrats on the show where I'm like, Okay, these are
Speaker 1: good people. These are really cool people, elected officials and everything.
Speaker 1: They're like good hearts. They want to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: We may disagree on politics or particular policy, but they're good,
Speaker 1: good people, and you know, they're well intentioned. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how well intentioned build the Blasio is I
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily see see that. You don't force people
Speaker 1: to make medical decisions. I just I'm just really against that.
Speaker 1: In Democrats are supposed to be the party of choice,
Speaker 1: and they're giving us no choice. You know. I respect
Speaker 1: the person's desire, which is not to get vaccinated, just
Speaker 1: like I respect somebody who says I want to be vaccinated.
Speaker 1: I've not been vaccinated. I've had COVID before, So I'm okay,
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with not being vaccinated. I'm not comfortable with
Speaker 1: being shamed for not being vaccinated. And leaders like you
Speaker 1: said they gotta stop throw the politics away, just give
Speaker 1: us the science and let us go on from there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a serious health issue, got it? Uh
Speaker 1: Wuhan lab likely came from the Uhan lab, the one
Speaker 1: in which the the CCP certainly UH probably unlikely head
Speaker 1: of hand in just based on the reporting that we've
Speaker 1: seen have has come out, and certainly it was. If
Speaker 1: this is the case, if the reporting gets correct and accurate,
Speaker 1: that the this came from the Juan lap UH, then
Speaker 1: China certainly was looking to decimate the U. S economy
Speaker 1: and whoever else, And as a result of COVID and
Speaker 1: the lockdowns, their economy will overtake or at least is
Speaker 1: UH scheduled or predicted to overtake the U. S economy
Speaker 1: UH in this decade. So with these different variants, I
Speaker 1: wonder you know where could this have come from? But
Speaker 1: democratic politicians are helping to stop the progress of our
Speaker 1: country economically, given China UH front row seat, or rather
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat if you will, to win over
Speaker 1: us economically, which brings me to another statement here. When
Speaker 1: the data is clear, the red states that opened up
Speaker 1: from the lockdowns quicker did better economically, as Political reported
Speaker 1: in late June, of the fifteen states that have returned
Speaker 1: to pre pandemic levels of economic activity to wherever I
Speaker 1: led by Republican governors of the ten states reporting the
Speaker 1: lowest level of economics activities since January seven. I run
Speaker 1: by democratic governors. Economics, folks, it's it's you have to
Speaker 1: be able to take care of your family. We cannot
Speaker 1: live on the government. I know there's a lot of
Speaker 1: folks who received a bunch of unemployment. They may have
Speaker 1: gotten some p PP money. And somebody that I know
Speaker 1: I saw in l A recently said, man, that was
Speaker 1: the most money that I ever made on that unemployment.
Speaker 1: I wish they'll bring it back. No, folks, we gotta
Speaker 1: get back to self reliance, and we have politicians who
Speaker 1: are creating economic situation that is destructive to families. What
Speaker 1: do you think about what's going on with them shutting
Speaker 1: down or have shut down and possibly about to shut
Speaker 1: down local governments or rather cities and states. Again, what
Speaker 1: are you what's your your take on, Nick Camp? I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a scary thought. Everything the government has ever touched
Speaker 1: or run. I believe it's just been a disaster. That
Speaker 1: can point too many times in history where that's happened.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest one is in nineve where it
Speaker 1: really affected the black community, and in my opinion, is
Speaker 1: when basically the government asked the black woman to marry
Speaker 1: the government rather than the father of a child. Right,
Speaker 1: we saw basically the welfare state come into play and
Speaker 1: that has devastated our communities since then. And then you
Speaker 1: compound that with crime bill. It's just everything the government
Speaker 1: touches to me just ends up being more of an issue.
Speaker 1: And then they try to say, oh, we need more
Speaker 1: money to fix this issue, and that's what they run on.
Speaker 1: It's the same old cycle and it never benefits. I
Speaker 1: don't think we the people. I mean right here in Maryland,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of people that are still on
Speaker 1: unemployment because, like your friends said, they're making more money
Speaker 1: sitting home, and so we have some busy This is
Speaker 1: especially the rest Maybe I misspoke. Someone I know we
Speaker 1: have is out of acquaintance people be like them your
Speaker 1: Ganna Frians. No, we have some restaurants here in Maryland
Speaker 1: where they are having a hard time getting people to
Speaker 1: come back to work because they are making more money
Speaker 1: on unemployment. Luckily, Governor Hogan is saying by September one, uh,
Speaker 1: they're no longer going to be given, you know, so
Speaker 1: much in unemployment to make people come back to work.
Speaker 1: He ended the eviction moratorium daying, look, landlords need to
Speaker 1: pay their mortgage and so you got to pay your rent.
Speaker 1: And that's how it should have been from the get go.
Speaker 1: It should have never gotten to this point. Of course,
Speaker 1: I think I think like a Republican in that sense. Um,
Speaker 1: But you know, for me, it's just a no win.
Speaker 1: And we look at states like Florida with Governor Rod
Speaker 1: de Santis, and they were able to continue moving those
Speaker 1: people down there seem to be doing just fine with
Speaker 1: and things are, you know, as fine as economically. We
Speaker 1: look at the delta variant now and people are saying, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's more in Florida, Texas, and I believe Louisiana.
Speaker 1: But I have to say with that, we know it
Speaker 1: came in from out of this country. I think they
Speaker 1: pinpointed to India. But we have our southern border wide
Speaker 1: open right now. When I look at that, I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: is this really serious. If it's really serious, why do
Speaker 1: we have our southern border wide open? If it's really serious,
Speaker 1: why didn't we do anything in the meantime to prepare
Speaker 1: us for possibly the variant and another pandemic. I ran
Speaker 1: on basically bringing the billion dollar medical equipment industry back
Speaker 1: to the States, particularly through the Baltimore City port, but
Speaker 1: we did not do anything to beef up our equipment
Speaker 1: industry as far as medicine here during this entire time
Speaker 1: that we're trying to rebuild from the pandemic. And then
Speaker 1: you see President Joe Biden put out a tweet saying, oh,
Speaker 1: We've got the most jobs back on the market this
Speaker 1: past month, and it's like, basically he just he's taken
Speaker 1: it for jobs that are being replenished that we're taking
Speaker 1: away in the beginning right there, right, they're not new jobs,
Speaker 1: they're not new careers. So it's it's a disaster to me.
Speaker 1: But maybe that's just my take. No, I think that's
Speaker 1: the take up a lot of other people. Very cogent point. Now,
Speaker 1: I want to shift now from the issues of the
Speaker 1: day to what you're up to, Kim, and what you
Speaker 1: got planning for the future. But first let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. Welcome back to Ally with Giano Caldwell. I
Speaker 1: got Kimberly Clasic co hosting the show with me, first
Speaker 1: time ever doing this. It's been quite fun, certainly auspicious commentary.
Speaker 1: This is one of the shows that I think I'll
Speaker 1: forever remember because I enjoy doing co hosting. I really do.
Speaker 1: I'm actually co hosting on a Fox News channel here
Speaker 1: next week, but I really appreciate having just the various
Speaker 1: viewpoints and being able to kind of toss things back
Speaker 1: and forth with somebody. So thank you for doing it, Kim.
Speaker 1: But I want to before I let you go, ask
Speaker 1: the question that everyone wants to know from you, which
Speaker 1: is will you be running for Congress again? Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, thank you so much for having me today.
Speaker 1: This has actually been a lot of fun being able
Speaker 1: to just talk candidly. But yeah, we plan on running again.
Speaker 1: We left a million dollars in the treasury to to
Speaker 1: do so. We were so fortunate to have support from
Speaker 1: all across this country, from amazing people, and then to
Speaker 1: have the support from the Trump family. We raised over
Speaker 1: eight point four million dollars in our race, so we're
Speaker 1: allowed to We're able to keep some money in the
Speaker 1: bank to to continue. It's gonna take time. Baltimore City,
Speaker 1: like Chicago, it's it's tough when you've been under Democrat
Speaker 1: one party rule for fifty some years. It's gonna take
Speaker 1: time for people to change their minds and say, wow,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I should vote differently. But for us
Speaker 1: in Baltimore City in that part of the district, usually
Speaker 1: a Republican gets votes. We were able to get we're
Speaker 1: teen thousand votes, and we did that in a in
Speaker 1: a pretty short amount of time because our our viral
Speaker 1: ad didn't go viral until mid August and so we
Speaker 1: had until November three to really just take it home.
Speaker 1: So I think you know now that we still have time,
Speaker 1: we're still in the community. You have a team out
Speaker 1: there right now registering voters. There are actually seventy four
Speaker 1: thousand people in Baltimore City that are not registered to
Speaker 1: vote at all, and so that's a big chunk, and
Speaker 1: it's a big number where I know there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people saying, look, things aren't going the way we
Speaker 1: saw things were gonna be going at this point in time. One,
Speaker 1: we're all, you know, we're going backwards in a way.
Speaker 1: And so the more we stay out there and stay
Speaker 1: relevant and making sure people know they were there for
Speaker 1: the community. We took a bunch of kids from West
Speaker 1: Baltimore and sent them down to West Virginia to summer
Speaker 1: camp this year, and that was a lot of fun
Speaker 1: and you know, just give them something else to do
Speaker 1: and great exposure for them. Hopefully they'll go back each year.
Speaker 1: I've been donating and helping out at many churches in
Speaker 1: the area and is doing the things that anybody would
Speaker 1: do that's able to lend a helping hands. So we're
Speaker 1: definitely gonna run again. We're looking to run in twenty two,
Speaker 1: but if it ends up being four where we make
Speaker 1: the biggest ground game, then we'll just take our time
Speaker 1: and do what needs to be done so that we
Speaker 1: can win. But at the end of the day, I'm
Speaker 1: never giving up on Baltimore. You know, I hear all
Speaker 1: the rumors, Oh, Kim's gonna go to Florida. She probably
Speaker 1: is gonna go run in a in a district where
Speaker 1: it's easier to run, and It's like, no, that's not
Speaker 1: why I'm here, That's not why I got into this.
Speaker 1: This is about changing Baltimore. There are people that have hope, dreams,
Speaker 1: aspirations to do more, and I want to make sure
Speaker 1: that they have the opportunity to get to the American
Speaker 1: dream just like everyone else. And so we're gonna continue
Speaker 1: to run. I'll probably wait a little bit to announce,
Speaker 1: probably towards February next year, because I am working on
Speaker 1: my pack and you know the FBC rules, you can't
Speaker 1: do a pack and be an announced Kimia at the
Speaker 1: same time, so we'll we'll take our time on that. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for giving us that exclusive of Kimberly Classic
Speaker 1: is running again. And you know one thing that I appreciate,
Speaker 1: I think you have it. I mean obviously the star power,
Speaker 1: but I think you actually care and that I think
Speaker 1: that resonates with people more. You actually care. And I've
Speaker 1: known you for years and I know that you care
Speaker 1: because we've been talking about this stuff for years before
Speaker 1: you even really hit the scene in the in the media.
Speaker 1: So thank you so much for all that you do.
Speaker 1: And the GOP should really be taking note because instead
Speaker 1: of trying to go to an area to win a
Speaker 1: race one time, especially when you're talking about urban centers,
Speaker 1: you gotta be in the community. You gotta stay there.
Speaker 1: You don't just win the race from one election. Most times,
Speaker 1: when you're trying to win urban seat, you gotta let
Speaker 1: the people get to know you. They gotta have conversations
Speaker 1: with you, feel comfortable with you, and whatever political boogeyman
Speaker 1: the Democrats will use. People look at it as bs
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, I know her. She's a
Speaker 1: good person. I don't believe that I want to give
Speaker 1: up my support. I met her, I believe in her,
Speaker 1: so continue doing that. And I hope you're still pushing
Speaker 1: the party to get involved in a lot of these races,
Speaker 1: but certainly you're you're using your pack to create the
Speaker 1: wave versus chasing it with the r n C. So, Kimberly,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? So? On Twitter, I'm at
Speaker 1: kim k Baltimore, and on Instagram and Facebook it's Kimberly Clasick.
Speaker 1: I'm on LinkedIn, but I mean that's not fun. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. So just kidding now it's Kimberly Clasic there too. Okay,
Speaker 1: We'll be sure to follow you on all social media.
Speaker 1: I want to thank you again for co hosting the
Speaker 1: show with me and I look forward to what you
Speaker 1: have coming up and certainly doing more this with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for having me, and keep up all
Speaker 1: the good work you're doing too. It's definitely appreciated. Thank you,
Speaker 1: miss Kimberly Classic. I appreciate your time and talk to
Speaker 1: you very soon. I want to thank my dear friend
Speaker 1: Kimberly Clasic again for co hosting with me this week.
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