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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we support the Dwayne Wade statue.

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Speaker 1: It was we it's a week before trade deadline for yourself.

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Speaker 2: But we couldn't wait to get some trades off.

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Speaker 1: So yes, we are talking news. We are talking Quarterback Island.

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Speaker 1: We're talking TNF here in the Chris Westling podcast studio

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Speaker 1: with Steve Weisch.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, back from.

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Speaker 1: Europe, Jordan rod Rieg back from I'll Play Callers podcast,

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Speaker 1: new new episode.

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Speaker 2: And yes, Colleen.

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Speaker 4: Wolf Hey, I'm just here, Colleen, stop by yo.

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Speaker 1: Back from Monday night football coverage with Steve Mariucci. Going

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Speaker 1: to Germany next week. You're gonna leave the studio straight

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Speaker 1: from our trade deadline. We got that right to the

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Speaker 1: airport just moments.

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Speaker 5: Ago, all of us together, especially you color and she's.

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Speaker 3: Going to l Sace. Yeah, it's a good white wine.

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Speaker 4: And I'm gonna have to write that down. I don't

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Speaker 4: know the spelling of that. I'm not really sure I

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Speaker 4: got you. Okay, how are we feeling?

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Speaker 6: Oh, we're fired up. We're fired up. It's Quarterback Island time.

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Speaker 3: It is feel it.

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Speaker 1: It's been a lot of planning Quarterback Island. We'll see

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Speaker 1: if it's anymore well organized this time surprising, Jordan didn't believe.

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Speaker 5: Like, are you looking at me?

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Speaker 2: Well, because it's like twenty minutes before the show.

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm an open I'm open for all the arguments.

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Speaker 1: Which quarterbacks are going to be on the island and

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Speaker 1: which aren't. We're deciding which twelve deserve to be there.

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Speaker 1: And you didn't believe me.

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Speaker 6: Do you see the reworking of the phraseology of what

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Speaker 6: he actually said, Yeah, we're not going to go there.

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Speaker 7: I actually videoed it, though, So I have receipts and

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Speaker 7: what does it say says I have no plan?

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Speaker 5: You said that's true, and I said, I don't believe you.

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Speaker 3: Oh I thought it was executive power.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Okay, now we're talking about you can change

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Speaker 4: the rules as much as we wish, but I don't

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Speaker 4: have a plan.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know each other prettyretty well, Jordan, now,

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Speaker 1: but you know not as long as he's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't normally necessarily have a plan.

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Speaker 2: You have an idea, you just roll.

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Speaker 3: Let's do some news, dude.

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Speaker 1: Ah, Okay, we're going to try to avoid news today,

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Speaker 1: but the NFL wouldn't let us, so we've got juicy

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Speaker 1: news let's start with the Deontay Johnson trade from the

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Speaker 1: Panthers to the Ravens. Because of the three big items

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, this was the one that surprised me the most.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens only have to send a sixth round a

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Speaker 1: fifth round pick, and they get back the Panthers' sixth

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Speaker 1: round pick. When you think about how the Panthers are

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Speaker 1: going to be at the top of the draft and

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are going to be at the bottom, that's

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Speaker 1: like half around when you know, account for the compensatory

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Speaker 1: picks that will be in there. They're basically trading for nothing.

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Panthers are paying a

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Speaker 1: that the number one offense in the NFL, Colleen is

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Speaker 8: Great job, Eric Tacosta, I mean, this was a steal.

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Speaker 8: This was such a great move.

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Speaker 4: By them and Deontay Johnson he was getting moved either way. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: But once Christian Kirk got hurt, broke his collar bone,

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Speaker 4: I feel like then it was like Deontay was the

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Speaker 4: clear option for them. And there were so many teams

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Speaker 4: I just think I just cannot wait for November seventeenth

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Speaker 4: when he goes back to Pittsburgh as a raven Or.

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Speaker 4: Like that's because he was traded from the Steelers. So

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Speaker 4: i just like the pettiness of it, and I'm excited

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Speaker 3: You just want to be back against Patrick Queen, so

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Speaker 3: you know, to there we go.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I like this.

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Speaker 7: It was interesting Jeff's reebik over at the Athletic He

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Speaker 7: was talking about improving wide receiver depth, but he's also

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Speaker 7: talking about how he could potentially factor in the return game.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's a team that really puts a lot

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Speaker 7: because yes, they needed a boost in the receiving corps,

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Speaker 6: I think, honestly, in the shell game they made a

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Speaker 6: We're gonna be This is a team with. These are

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Speaker 6: Digs is out, Houston could be going to get him.

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Speaker 6: Let's get him to add to the return game, but

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Speaker 6: you throw him out there. Now you got Zave Flowers,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody in the AFC is doing it these days.

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Speaker 4: I mean the Bills, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is an arms race, and yet it costs

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Speaker 1: totally nothing. So you would think they went around to

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Speaker 1: try to get better offers and couldn't get it. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm stunned by it because you can talk about wide

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Speaker 1: there is an issue of that. The Steelers did not

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Speaker 1: want him around. They traded him for Dante Jackson. They're

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Speaker 1: very happy about that trade. By the way, they got

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Speaker 2: They do need a wide receiver, though they're They're doing

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Speaker 1: I think they're happy with that trade, and the Panthers

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Speaker 1: apparently wanted to get rid of them so badly that

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Speaker 1: they gave him away for nothing and are paying them.

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Speaker 3: So he's got expiring content.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but literally, they're getting basically no value

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Speaker 1: and they're paying it, so they just wanted him on

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Speaker 7: I've said this before with a couple of these trade.

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Speaker 7: I don't think for teams that are contenders that are

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Speaker 7: by just a little bit more down the stretch, I

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Speaker 7: don't think situations like that they care as much about

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Speaker 1: And it's the Ravens. The Ravens feel like he's just

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Speaker 4: They won't imagine going from Carolina to Baltimore for him,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I love it because it seems like Colleen

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Speaker 7: you mentioned it Stevie mentioned it. It seems like all of

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Speaker 5: Who's going to move first?

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Speaker 7: Then all of a sudden, everything happens at once, like

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Speaker 7: that is what's going on here with the AFC. They're

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Speaker 7: all like, oh, you might be looking for a pass oursher.

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Speaker 7: Oh you got the guy that we wanted. Okay, we're

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Speaker 7: gonna pivot and get this other receiver that maybe you

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Speaker 5: It just is fascinating.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 7: They're loading up and this this Conferences division is loading

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Speaker 7: up in a big way.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he might be their leading receiver.

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Speaker 1: My guess would be Zay Flower will be Zay Flowers

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Speaker 1: has improved quite a bit. There are some similarities, but

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Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson is a more accomplished route run. He's been

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Speaker 1: productive since the day he hit the league, like six

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Speaker 2: I remember thinking that that's impressive.

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Speaker 1: And ever since then he had that one big thousand

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Speaker 1: a lot of catches. But there is this idea of

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Speaker 1: much more he can get that hasn't happened yet. He

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Speaker 1: has been in the NFL for six years. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: not happy. It's like it's like there's this idea of

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Speaker 1: him like an American psycho. There's this idea of Peyton

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Speaker 1: of abstracted abstraction. But it's it's illusory, this idea of

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Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson that I've had. But he doesn't need to

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Speaker 1: be a number one there. He's replacing Nelson Aguilar. It's

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Speaker 6: I mean he's Kawhi Leonard, so I mean he could

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Speaker 2: It's a really smart move by the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, they are number one in passing

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Speaker 1: number one in passing efficiency. Because the running game helped

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Speaker 1: set up these open receivers. Deontay Johnson's going to see

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Speaker 1: more single coverage than he's ever seen in his life.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned Stefan Diggs out for the season for Houston.

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Speaker 1: Really disappointing to see them lose another piece. Nego Collins

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Speaker 1: I think this is a.

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Speaker 2: Sneaky, big loss.

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Speaker 1: Like I know, people haven't seen him be the old

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, but he leads the team in first downs.

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Speaker 1: He actually was becoming that trusty third down guy out

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Speaker 1: they went to Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 2: And now he's not there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that kind of relationship building takes a little

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Speaker 7: between a receiver who was new to this team this

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Speaker 7: you still are trying to find those guys that you

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Speaker 7: other guys missing, I think where this really hurts them.

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Speaker 7: It's like you said, he's a first down machine. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 7: this is an offense that's really struggling in terms of protection,

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Speaker 7: in order to run a functional offense to stay ahead

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Speaker 7: of the downs. Their run game is working, but in

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Speaker 7: terms of the past game, it's been up and down.

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Speaker 7: And a lot of reasons why you see him leaning

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Speaker 7: on Steffan Diggs is because you're starting to get that

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Speaker 7: security blanket developed. And that's not a bad thing. That's

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Speaker 7: a very good thing, and it helps you sustain as

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Speaker 7: you figure out how you need to recalibrate and re

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Speaker 7: to do that while also missing a significant player on

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think attackings are going to be in the

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Speaker 6: trade market. I mean there's still like who's left?

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Speaker 7: I'll throw out a name, but not the one you

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Speaker 7: He plays bigger than he looks. I listen, I understand,

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Speaker 5: They'll probably at least, you know, have the conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a maximum.

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Speaker 7: As much as I like Steve's face torn, you hate

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Speaker 1: As much as I like my body diversity and accomplished.

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Speaker 7: Okay, you blame you could blame Sean McVay a little

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Speaker 1: I think there's only one slot for a guy who's

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Speaker 5: Right, what he's the opposite of what.

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Speaker 7: The Cardinals are doing on right taking that slot, shrinking

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Speaker 1: I really feel for Stefan Diggs too, because he is

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Speaker 2: He had a void in his contract.

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Speaker 1: This was always a prove it type of deal, and look,

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Speaker 2: To know you. You were a good fit with CJ. Stroud.

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Speaker 1: His offers aren't going to be as good as as

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Speaker 1: transitioning to that veteran role where he wasn't as big

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Speaker 1: for him. He will be hitting free agency. He'll be

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Speaker 1: thirty two years old next year. I hope they end

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Speaker 1: talk about the move that Nick Shook and eye saw

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson is being benched. How about that?

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Speaker 1: Twenty two years old? Just a handful of starts this year.

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Steve will be the starter Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: When was the last time the Colts were in Sunday

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Speaker 6: Fine, Joe Flacco run the offense. Look at this, Two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: But they had to do this.

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Speaker 6: Anthony Richardson every game that he finished this year completed

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Speaker 6: no more than fifty percent of his passes. That is

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Speaker 6: torture to the other guys on that team. That's why

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Speaker 6: you have to make a move like this, because when

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Speaker 3: They're going with the deep ball.

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Speaker 6: He's on schedule, he's not tapping out because he's tired.

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Speaker 6: That move right there, is letely an excuse. But when

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Speaker 6: go back to the fact that he's not ready. Everything

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Speaker 6: So good on Chainsichon pull him back right now because

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not good.

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Speaker 6: And I'm sure the other dudes on that team after

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Speaker 7: Flatcoin, Tapper probably can't even feel his body.

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Speaker 4: That's Stephen Holder is treating all sorts of stuff about

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Speaker 4: this decision. What the team had explained to him, people

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Speaker 2: To take a step back, that break they're.

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Speaker 4: Giving him, they're not quitting on him right now. But yeah,

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Speaker 7: And I want to make the point too, when you're

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Speaker 5: They are not conditioning reps.

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Speaker 7: In fact, you're probably deloading much more than you are

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Speaker 7: not developing as an efficient thrower. Now, I do want

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Speaker 7: Anthony Richardson does need this time, and I do know

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Speaker 7: the Colts are invested in those practices and in those methods,

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Speaker 5: If we're looking at the five year plan.

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Speaker 6: And they're there, they would be in the playoffs right now.

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Speaker 6: we're trying to win ball games. We are right there,

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Speaker 3: That's not what anybody thought. So they're trying to win.

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Speaker 6: Get They've got a veteran Leydon roster guyas like DeForest Buckner,

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Speaker 4: We thought, and Joe Flacco seems like the perfect quarterback

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Speaker 1: They should they should have just kept going with Flacco

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Speaker 2: That's where it got a little messy.

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Speaker 1: I think Richardson's in one of his biggest strengths there

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Speaker 1: And he didn't have the off season because he was

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Speaker 2: He was playing tight.

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Speaker 1: I expect Anthony Richardson starts again this year, probably by December.

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Speaker 1: They're not going to keep starting Joe Flacco. And Joe

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Speaker 2: You don't know.

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Speaker 1: Here's the schedule. My point is he has to win that.

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Speaker 1: We're hitting December. They probably go back to Richard maybe,

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Speaker 7: you know, several feet down the hall to the bathroom

442
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Speaker 7: and finally man and finally.

443
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Speaker 3: Me either.

444
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's play for five straight weeks as the starter

445
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Speaker 1: and no, that's that's all I'm saying.

446
00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 3: I guarantee Matthew Stafford probably feels the.

447
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Speaker 5: Same, probably crawling at this place.

448
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,760
Speaker 3: This is not that is not a unique situation post

449
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Speaker 3: now it is.

450
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Speaker 1: It is a great It is a great story, a

451
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Speaker 1: great like I want Joe Flacco to do it. Let's

452
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Speaker 1: get that win against the Vikings. I'll be rooting for

453
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Speaker 1: the Colts. That would be fun. And you mentioned it's

454
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Speaker 1: it's not a developed developmental league, and Richardson needs it.

455
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Speaker 2: He's only started twenty two games since high school.

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Speaker 7: I like what Colleen said is this is what happens

457
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Speaker 7: when you draft potential. There's nothing wrong with drafting potential,

458
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Speaker 7: like she alluded to, but you have to also have

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Speaker 7: the infrastructure and the patients to manage that potential and

460
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Speaker 7: to develop and blossom that potential in a league that

461
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Speaker 7: is not built for that at all.

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Speaker 3: You got to know your locker room.

463
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Speaker 6: I mean that's more than you have to know your

464
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Speaker 6: locker room is if they're going to be patient enough.

465
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Speaker 6: Like when Trey Lance went to the forty nine ers,

466
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Speaker 6: that actually was a very good situation for him. They

467
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Speaker 6: had everything built in for him, a great culture. He

468
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Speaker 6: just couldn't play right. That's what it came down to.

469
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Speaker 6: But if you put Bryce Young with the Carolina Panthers

470
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Speaker 6: and he's playing with you know, a bunch of traffic collings,

471
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Speaker 6: I mean no, no, not disparaging, but yes, at the

472
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Speaker 6: same time, that's not helping this guy.

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Speaker 3: No, that's not having a plan.

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Speaker 1: Now people are like, what about his confidence, and there's

475
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Speaker 1: reports he was devastated, but they're not worried about, like,

476
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Speaker 1: of course he's going to be devastated. I've heard starting

477
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks say like, this is the worst thing that can happen.

478
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Speaker 1: You do sometimes you come back you feel a little

479
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 1: freed up from it because the worst thing has already happened.

480
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Speaker 1: And yes, this is a guy who's two and a

481
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Speaker 1: half years younger than Bonicks, a year and a half

482
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Speaker 1: younger than Jadan Daniels certainly hasn't played nearly as much

483
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Speaker 1: football as him, so there's a lot of time here.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I just wonder how that messes with his

485
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,440
Speaker 4: head as someone who is so young and inexperienced.

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Speaker 2: He'll be fine, fine.

487
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Speaker 3: I can feel it.

488
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Speaker 1: If he's going to have a good career, he'll still

489
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Speaker 1: have it. I don't think I don't think this is

490
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Speaker 1: gonna make or break Anthony Richardson. Look, we saw Drew

491
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Speaker 1: Brees get benched for Doug Flutie back in the day.

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Speaker 2: He had a pretty good career.

493
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Speaker 3: Let's go if you know, the kids have no idea

494
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Speaker 3: what you were talking about.

495
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Speaker 2: Doug Flutey or Drew Brees.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, people forget this whole chargers up and

497
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Speaker 1: down where people his coach hated him in San Diego.

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Speaker 8: I was trying to think of football historian, how.

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Speaker 1: Many different not many like high, highly touted, top quarterbacks

500
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Speaker 1: have been benched though and went on to have a

501
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Speaker 1: good career. It actually hasn't that many. Alex Smith is

502
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Speaker 1: another one that has. Drew Brees is, you know, at

503
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Speaker 1: the top of the list, at least for the last

504
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Speaker 1: twenty years. All right, we're going to talk about some

505
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Speaker 1: players who are at no risk of being benched in

506
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Speaker 1: just the second.

507
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Speaker 2: Yes, we're going to the quarterback.

508
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Speaker 3: Let's go.

509
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Speaker 9: Twelve of the NFL's finest quarterbacks have left the comfort

510
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Speaker 9: of their stadiums and luxury suites for the adventure of

511
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Speaker 9: a lifetime. These brid iron heroes are used to leading

512
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Speaker 9: their teams on the field, but can they outplay, outlast,

513
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Speaker 9: and outthrow each other in the ultimate survival challenge?

514
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: You ain't everything you have with the gobas tied you.

515
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Speaker 5: We find a way to win.

516
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Speaker 7: The No matter what.

517
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Speaker 9: The stakes are high and the competition is fierce, only

518
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Speaker 9: one can claim the title of the ultimate survivor. Who

519
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 9: will rise to the top and who will be sacked?

520
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: They wrote me off, I ain't right back though, well,

521
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Speaker 1: I'm right back.

522
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Speaker 3: Let's go. This is Quarterback of Ireland.

523
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Speaker 2: Let's go.

524
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Speaker 1: We are the look of it. This total joy on

525
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Speaker 1: Jordan Rodriggs's face. Thank you Randy Chavis for voicing that.

526
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Speaker 1: Thank you to g Know Smith, one of the current

527
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Speaker 1: twelve members of Quarterback Island. If you haven't been with

528
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Speaker 1: us on the first two editions, we're doing this once

529
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Speaker 1: a month every four weeks during the season, deciding who

530
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 1: are the quarterbacks that define the position right now? Who

531
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: is playing the best in twenty twenty four. You can

532
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Speaker 1: interpret it however you wish, but there are twelve members,

533
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Speaker 1: as decided by us, the panelists that are currently on

534
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Speaker 1: Quarterback Island. So just so to go over it, let's

535
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 1: talk about him and I'm gonna go alphabetical order, so

536
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 1: you know we're not playing any favorites. Josh Allen, Joe Burrow,

537
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,240
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, Sam Darnold got put onto the island.

538
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 2: That's a problem with that all right now, Jared.

539
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: No, you heard the pause. Good catch, Colleen.

540
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Jared Goff also got put onto the island last time around.

541
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Brock Purty. They've been

542
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: there all along. Gino Smith got onto the island last

543
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Speaker 1: time around this Matthew Stafford and c J.

544
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Speaker 2: Stroud. So that's after week four. Here we are after

545
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Speaker 2: week eight.

546
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,239
Speaker 3: Wow, that flew by, Yeah did it?

547
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 5: Though I do measure time.

548
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: People say that island, but that feels so long ago. Honestly, yes,

549
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: you hadn't even You hadn't even lived in the in

550
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Speaker 1: the Kimpton Fitzroy in London for a couple of weeks.

551
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Speaker 6: You either then I hadn't been on the back of

552
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Speaker 6: a motorcycle over in London either.

553
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 2: That's true and.

554
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: Evil what you know?

555
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 2: Just think.

556
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Speaker 1: I do feel like these seasons, like people say, they

557
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: move fast.

558
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Speaker 2: I get it.

559
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 1: At the end, you blink and it feels like it's over.

560
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: But it's like that feels like a million years ago.

561
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Speaker 8: When you're in it.

562
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Speaker 4: It is a different method of time somehow, like we're

563
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Speaker 4: in some other simulation while we're in it.

564
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Speaker 8: But then after it's like, oh my gosh, that was quick.

565
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 5: Maybe we are in back island. Oh my god, it's

566
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 5: like lost. Time has different.

567
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Speaker 1: Don't give away potential surprise season finale, And yes we

568
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Speaker 1: do have some twists. One I will introduce to you

569
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: right now there is gonna be a function of the show.

570
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Speaker 4: Greg by the way, is the producer of this, and

571
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Speaker 4: he's also a contestant.

572
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Speaker 2: Josh, he's kind of an every power.

573
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Speaker 3: Pots on the back end, he's also trying to place

574
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Speaker 3: Van Gali.

575
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Speaker 1: I'm selling this the syndication. It's all happening.

576
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: Okay, tell us about the twists.

577
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: Okay, the rip. There is a new part of the

578
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: show called the Riptide and for the.

579
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Speaker 2: Entire rest of the season.

580
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Speaker 6: Excuse me, yes, oh my god, yeah, baby.

581
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Speaker 5: Steve crawling to the.

582
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Speaker 2: Bathroom thinks Dad, that's a granddad joke.

583
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Speaker 3: That's good.

584
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, Stafford. We might need to work.

585
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Speaker 1: On the riptide one now because every time I hear it,

586
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to think about.

587
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Speaker 3: The riptide.

588
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 5: Oh all right, No, own the.

589
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 3: Hot tub and autin powers each.

590
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Speaker 1: One of you for the rest of this entire season

591
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Speaker 1: through the playoffs, and we will have a version of

592
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: it in the playoffs. You can and use one riptide

593
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: just once the whole rest of the season. That means

594
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: you have there's someone on the island that you are

595
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: taking off and there can be no argument to it,

596
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: so that the whole show could have just put them

597
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: onto the island and you could take them back off

598
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 1: one singular, one single player, and you can use it

599
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: this show if you want. You can use it next

600
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Speaker 1: time around. You can use it at the end of

601
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Speaker 1: the season. You can hold that card in your pocket.

602
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: You have a riptide card.

603
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 3: Okay, we're dunking somebody in the shallow water, just.

604
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 1: So that, like, if you feel that strong, and it

605
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: could be strategic too, you could hold that over someone,

606
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to get what you want.

607
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: Let's vote.

608
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: So we just talked about the full screen. I mean,

609
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Speaker 1: we just talked about the Quarterback Island, the members that

610
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Speaker 1: are there. Now I think let's just start by introducing

611
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Speaker 1: who I would suggest just be locks to stay on

612
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Speaker 1: the island.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise we're not going to vote until the very end

614
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Speaker 2: this time.

615
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: All right, what you got sound?

616
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Speaker 1: Why are you because we didn't I forgot to talk

617
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: about this with you before the show. That's all okay,

618
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: that we're not voting till the very end. I would

619
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: suggest there are six, probably seven locks to remain on

620
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: the island that don't need a lot of discussion. We

621
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: can talk about them just as players, but that they

622
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Speaker 1: remain on the island. Of the twelve current members that

623
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: are on the island right now, here is who I

624
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: suggest remain without a vote. Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen MVP candidate,

625
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, MVP candidate Joe Burrow playing well. Jaden Daniels

626
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 1: has done absolutely nothing to take him off the island

627
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 1: MVP candidate CJ. Stroud, and I would say since we

628
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: put Jared Goff on the island last time around, it's

629
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Speaker 1: hard to say the way that he's played since Week five,

630
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Speaker 1: there'd be any oh reason, no disagreement, possibly, are there

631
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Speaker 1: any disagreements even a c J.

632
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: Stroud?

633
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Speaker 1: No, no, okay, and any thought, So just any of

634
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Speaker 1: those guys you want to just get out there while we're.

635
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 7: Here, found something interesting, you know. The difficult thing with

636
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Speaker 7: how with what's going on with c J. Stroud right

637
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 7: now is obviously his offensive line, particularly.

638
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Speaker 5: In past protection.

639
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 7: Next Gen stats found his pressure rate to be on

640
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Speaker 7: forty one percent of his dropbacks, which is the most

641
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 7: of any like if we're going to just like loosely

642
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 7: frame like a quality starter in the NFL right now.

643
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 7: But it's interesting when you compare that to the pressure

644
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 7: that Jared Goff is actually getting He's at now a

645
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 7: thirty four point four percent PRESSU rate. Some of that's

646
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 7: based on opponent recently and what they were trying to

647
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Speaker 7: do to him. He's right behind like a Gino Smith

648
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Speaker 7: for example, which we know his offensive line has also

649
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 7: been atrocious. And so I'm basically arguing, you know that

650
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Speaker 7: these are very two, very different teams and what the

651
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 7: Houston Texans are, what's happening to them right now, and

652
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 7: what we.

653
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 5: Know the Lions, how we know them to be built.

654
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Speaker 7: C J. Stroud is making the most out of what

655
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Speaker 7: is happening with him. But actually pressure is increase seeing

656
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Speaker 7: on Jared Goff because people are actually trying to see, oh,

657
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 7: is this the same Jared Goff who could get frazzled,

658
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 7: who would start playing worse once the pressure increased. But

659
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 7: he currently leads all qualified quarterbacks in yards per attempt,

660
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 7: completion percentage cpoe so completion yards over completion percentage over expected,

661
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 7: and passer rating when under pressure this season.

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Speaker 8: They have the best offensive line the Lions, right.

663
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they're designing pressure appoints are designing pressure against

664
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 7: them differently now, So he is getting better left, but

665
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 7: he's managing pressure differently and just go back and watch

666
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 7: Lions Vikings.

667
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 5: I'm kind of gonna throw out whatever last week was.

668
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 5: It was just fun. It was like an absurd box

669
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 5: score was hilarious.

670
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 7: But when you go back, yeah, he threw three touchdowns

671
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 7: on fifteen pass. But when we're actually going back, like,

672
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 7: I don't really want to hear the Jared Goff pressure

673
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 7: argument at this moment right now from not at this table,

674
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 7: of course, not but externally because he's actually managing things

675
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 7: better when you go back and watch that game and

676
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 7: watch him orchestrate the line. The way that he did

677
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 7: that was really savvy, smart quarterback play, and it was

678
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 7: a veteran quarterback play where he's manipulating the pressure, not

679
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 7: the other way around. That's the difference in really sealing

680
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 7: him on this island right now for me, why I

681
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 7: don't think there's an argument even if there was, I

682
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 7: just don't think there should be.

683
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 5: And similar to c. J.

684
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 7: Stroud, the way he's playing in consideration of all the pressure.

685
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 5: It's interesting.

686
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 7: These are two very different situations and marginally like a

687
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 7: little bit of a different pressure rate here, but they're

688
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 7: both managing it to the best of their abilities, which

689
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 7: I think has actually increased in terms of what they're

690
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 7: able to do year over year.

691
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 4: He stays on the island, his family can come as well,

692
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 4: like it pirks.

693
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 6: But basically, Jordan saying is a nerve of Ben Johnson

694
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 6: taking the ball out of golf hands letting David Montgomery

695
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 6: throw it back, Like what the.

696
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: Hell does have some funky numbers.

697
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: He is just having like a bizarre season that he's

698
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: like twenty third in QBR and not in the top

699
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: twenty in PFF. It is an eyeball test of like

700
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: you watch CJ. Stroud and to me, it's just so

701
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: clear that he is one of the I would say

702
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: eight best quarterbacks in the league, So I don't need

703
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: to see the numbers. GOFF is having an incredible season

704
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: and but the numbers are a little bit all over

705
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: the place. And part of that is situational that he's

706
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: in such advantageous situations. There's a stack called EPA plus

707
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: where it's like, based on the situation of the plays

708
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: that you have a positive of what's expected or not,

709
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: and he's averaging that. Part of that is because the

710
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: Lions are always in great situation. Yeah, GoF is taking

711
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: advantage of it. No argument, he's honest.

712
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 5: Interesting finding here's one.

713
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 6: I mean, this is just to be a jerk like

714
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahonells like the dude, right, but he's got the

715
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 6: he got the lop sided touched on interception.

716
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: Huh oh yeah, he's he touched.

717
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: On his nine picks.

718
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 6: It is crazy, right if we're talking about But now

719
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 6: here's the thing though, with two minutes with with a

720
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 6: minute thirty left in the game, do you want anybody else.

721
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 3: On asylum but him?

722
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 6: No, no, no, so and this is probably gonna flip

723
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 6: the more they could d hop and stuff in it.

724
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 6: But that to me, when you're looking at the guys

725
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 6: who are locks, if you just go statistically like he's receptions.

726
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 7: He's vacillated to between like the fifteen to seventeen EPA

727
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 7: per dropback range to like as high as eight, and

728
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 7: the Chiefs are seven to zero. But their offense is

729
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 7: the second lowest EPA per game since twenty eighteen, and

730
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 7: their first lowest was in twenty twenty three by significant margin.

731
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 7: So caveat, caveat, caveat, what did they do in twenty

732
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 7: twenty three anyway, despite having that, But yeah, to your point,

733
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 7: it is really speaking of lopsided stats and lopsided numbers.

734
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 5: He is certainly a descriptor of that.

735
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, plays they're getting ready to take off.

736
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: You're not seeing the wild plays, but you're seeing the

737
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: This is why he does well in PFF, for instance,

738
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: versus other stuff, is because he's just getting little little gains,

739
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: little plusses every play. He's making smart decisions. You're not

740
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: seeing the big time throws. It is crazy, though, to

741
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: be in week eight and he has nine interceptions eight.

742
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be locked into that stat more

743
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: than others. All Right, Let's let's just throw the rest

744
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: of the guys in one big bucket, okay, And by

745
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: that I mean the players that we've decided are not

746
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: locks that were on the island, okay. And that's Dak

747
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: Press at Sam Darnold, it's Brock pretty you know Smith

748
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford. But what I'm going to say is

749
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: that we're going to discuss all these guys and the

750
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: players who could potentially be added all as one. We're

751
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: not going to vote until the very end, so we're.

752
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 8: Looking at me again.

753
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm just let's go over here.

754
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 6: Time Jordan's Jordan's cord that's closer to him is actually, who.

755
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Do you want to talk about first? I want to

756
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: talk about someone not on the list.

757
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: First.

758
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: Let's talk Kirk Cousins. Let's just talk a little.

759
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 5: I figured I thought, I think okay.

760
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Also, you guys are what making alliance as ahead of

761
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: time paranoid one of my two Okay, so what does

762
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: that mean, two guys.

763
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 7: That you think you were present voting? You were present

764
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 7: for this conversation.

765
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: This is not voting until the end.

766
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying, and I'm lobbing for Kirk Change, okay,

767
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 6: because you know, we come to your trap, we take

768
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 6: your trap. And that's exactly what he's going to do

769
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 6: to somebody on this island. Kirko Change is lit up

770
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 6: the bucks twice in the past three weeks, lit them up.

771
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 6: But now he's got Kyle pitchrolling. He's got this offense

772
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 6: functioning like they thought of. He stands in the pocket,

773
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 6: he doesn't move. But you look at Kirko's numbers. Number

774
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 6: he's a third ranked quarterback. He's got twenty one hundred

775
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 6: yards seven point eight yards attempt, that's one of the

776
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 6: best in the NFL. He's got the two to one

777
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 6: touchdown to interception ratio. But the last few weeks the

778
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 6: swag surfer. He's a surfer. He can surf.

779
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: Onto the island. Oh god, oh my god, Kirko Change

780
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 3: has been doing it. I'm sorry.

781
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: I mean his mobility is about the size of a surfboard.

782
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: Though we are looking at Kirk's scramble. If you're watching

783
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you could measure it, you know how next

784
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: Gens that's usually does like the twenty two miles an hour.

785
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: They actually did that with like a sun dial with

786
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Kirkin screen. They just put it upside down and that's

787
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: how it was a special.

788
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 7: Next right, He's been really good against the Bucks and

789
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 7: then with who on defense exactly eight touchdowns against the Bucks,

790
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 7: six touchdowns against everybody else.

791
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 5: Oh good stat.

792
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 3: I love that.

793
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: If he was only playing the Bucks, he'd definitely be

794
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: on it. Now some of the overall stats, like he

795
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,959
Speaker 1: is sixth and completion percentage over expected, he's like, he's

796
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: that's he's on the island in all these advanced stats

797
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: where he's about eight to tenth or eleventh. And there

798
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: is something that I consider when it comes to quarterback island,

799
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: which is who is defining the position right now, there

800
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: is who matters tangible and everyone could be different. It's

801
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: it's a combination. Who's playing the best, But who's it

802
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: this season? And I gotta say stationary Kirk Cousins.

803
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: He's it.

804
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't tell the story of this season

805
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: without Kirk Cousins. He is a huge figure. Maybe it's

806
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: all these primetime games or whatever, but he's given us

807
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: a lot of entertainment. He's in the mix, he's making

808
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: it good, he's making it happen. So I'm not sure

809
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: how I feel. That's what I say.

810
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 2: I don't have a plan.

811
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how I feel, but he deserves strong consideration.

812
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, I I go back and forth because again, he

813
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 7: is such a statue and they clearly have had to

814
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 7: manipulate a bunch of what they do on offense in

815
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 7: order to That.

816
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Sort of makes it more impressive in a weird way,

817
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: that that he's still that productive, Like he's like Aaron Rodgers,

818
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: except actually good.

819
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 7: I don't know, because they're actually they're just asking him

820
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 7: to get you know, some of these quick passes and

821
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 7: particularly efficient passes, and he's made some tough throws. Don't

822
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 7: get me wrong, but he's just like get the ball

823
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 7: into the hands of the playmakers. This is the same

824
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 7: argument that you potentially were knocking Rock Purty for at

825
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 7: the very beginning of this sea and time.

826
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 3: In the name of Matthew Stafford and Dak.

827
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 5: Prescott against them. No, no, trust me on that.

828
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: I'm not.

829
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm bringing up a point, like.

830
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: It's just pushbackers with you on that is, if you

831
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: made a reel of all these quarterbacks ten best throws

832
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: of the year, Kirk Cousins would be, you're the top

833
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: of the best. He has spun it this year, like

834
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: at a really impressive level. That reminded me like, this

835
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: guy is a natural throw of the field because it's

836
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: all he has left. So it's not all checkdowns Like

837
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: let's suck Baker then, because actually I kind of put

838
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 1: these two guys next to each other a little bit, okay,

839
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: because they've just played each other a couple of times.

840
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: The numbers are crazy, leading the league in touchdown pass

841
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: close twenty one.

842
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're actually also first in passing success rate. Now,

843
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: I thought last week was instructive. Everything is ten yards

844
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: or less, and when it's over that, it gets nasty

845
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: and some of the advanced numbers sixteenth in QBR nineteenth

846
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: and completion percentage over expected. It says, maybe it's more

847
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: about the offense and the receivers than it is about Baker.

848
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: What do you think about the Baker cr I mean,

849
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: I think Baker just based on his numbers, he has

850
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 4: a shot to be on there.

851
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 8: But I don't know who who would you take off staff?

852
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna go. We're going through all of them.

853
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 6: But what you just said, it may be more about

854
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 6: the offense negative. If you watch Bucks games, Baker has driven, yeah,

855
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 6: a lot of this offense.

856
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,240
Speaker 5: He pushes the ball.

857
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 3: He has been fantastic.

858
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 8: He's got that moxie.

859
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: He's got that moxie.

860
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 6: But I mean, I'm just saying, with what they've tried

861
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 6: to do, whether it be quick game, whether he's pushing

862
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 6: the ball down the field, he is the reason why

863
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 6: their offense is working now four.

864
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: Weeks I disagree. I think it's the offensive line and

865
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: the receivers and that.

866
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: They don't have any I totally beg you watch That's

867
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

868
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Four weeks or not, Baker's on, Baker's not going to

869
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 3: be on.

870
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 6: I kind of feel like we'll talk about in the moment,

871
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 6: like he's going to be a past tense guy in

872
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 6: a couple of weeks just because of the lack of weapons.

873
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I agree with you on that, Steve, because

874
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 7: and that's why I would put if you have Kirk

875
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 7: and Baker clustered together, That's why I would assent put Kirk,

876
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 7: because it's like it's like it's like a star sign

877
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 7: or a horoscope. It's Kirk Cousins ascending, you know, and

878
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 7: Baker Mayfield descending or someone's moon is in sagittarius or whatever,

879
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 7: and so I don't know, and so but I but

880
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 7: I do think that's that's what I one of the

881
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 7: things that I factored in, not necessarily projecting for the

882
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 7: sake of projecting, but also who is catching fire at

883
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 7: the right time, who is continuing to, you know, make

884
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 7: these plays.

885
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins. You cannot argue with that. Baker. I'm more

886
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: skeptical now than I would have been two and.

887
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 3: A half week.

888
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: So to be fair, I don't want to be a

889
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: victim of just last week Kirk. Kirk had a rough

890
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: game against Seattle. That's just two weeks ago. But the

891
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: fact that Baker team was Baker and Kirk went against

892
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: each other twice.

893
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 2: Split Yeah, against the Bucks and then everyone else.

894
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: The fact that they went against each other though twice,

895
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: and Kirk looked better and both of those matchups weren't

896
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: thrown like head scratching interceptions in both of those matchups. Rather,

897
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: Baker didn't the first time around, he did last time,

898
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: and he's had two straight rights of that.

899
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: That that to me gives in ed. Let's talk about

900
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: one of the guys. How about I'm gonna throw one out.

901
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 4: Real quick, because this would really change the dynamic of

902
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 4: the island in general. If we put Aaron Rodgers on

903
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 4: the island, the psychedelics that would happen on this island.

904
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 8: Would be insane.

905
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 2: Imagine the possibilities.

906
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: You have all of these quarterbacks that should be on

907
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: Quarterback Island, and then you bring in Aaron Rodgers.

908
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 5: It would be good for exactly Well, you're the producer.

909
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 7: This is about the time you throw in a giant

910
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 7: house twist, right, you drop some villain into the house

911
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 7: house twist everyone.

912
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 3: That's the rip Tide.

913
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: You guys could use it today if you wanted we

914
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: that would be amazing. If Rogers was on there and

915
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: everyone was mad and as a riptidere's he's so the

916
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: shaman for everyone. I don't think he's been as bad

917
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: as people want to make us be. That said, he's

918
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: either amazing or looking like he's forty six years old, like,

919
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: and there's no one between, and there's too much of

920
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: the forty six year old.

921
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 5: I'll tell you how I'm voting right now. I'm not

922
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 5: putting him on the island.

923
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 7: Just because this is not a serious no no right

924
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 7: for sure, but just when you when you yeah, for

925
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 7: the sake of the conversation, you know, I think I

926
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 7: just do think that, Like when you go out and

927
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 7: get a quarterback like that, you expect them to consistently

928
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 7: play at a level that elevates the entire roster, right,

929
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 7: and that is the message that you're sending. And if

930
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 7: you are a little st on the streakier side, if

931
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 7: you also can't move, but you're not necessarily also elevating

932
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 7: everybody else around you, whether it's from a personal like

933
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 7: I mean, there's just been chaos over the last couple.

934
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 4: Who we have the TNF preview coming up too, so

935
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 4: like I mean, there's a ton to talk about with

936
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 4: the Jets.

937
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: Good, good point, Rogers. We'll bring him up for a

938
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: vote later, but I think he's facing it up.

939
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 6: Put the Colleen balloon out here. If we're going that way,

940
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 6: Jamis would be the most fun person.

941
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Yes, Jamis quoting eminem I can't.

942
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 8: I just love everything?

943
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 3: Yes, who is mate?

944
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be here in four weeks we'll be talking

945
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston.

946
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: No, that would be perfect. What year is it? Let's talk.

947
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: Let's talk Stafford, one of the guys that was on

948
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: it right now, coming off his best game of the season.

949
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: If he didn't have that performance on Thursday night, he

950
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: would have a tough case. But you get your receivers

951
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: back and you play better. And we thought he was

952
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 1: worthy in the first four weeks, Like, like.

953
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 6: My only issue with him, because remember I fought against him,

954
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 6: had nothing to do with him necessarily. It's just the

955
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 6: other guys. I thought we're playing better with him. That's

956
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 6: the only argument I would make right now, you talk

957
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 6: about the ascending players, I mean we we saw Matt

958
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 6: Stafford do that Thursday night.

959
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 3: He looked like, oh yeah, he got.

960
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 4: A care package on the island with Pooka and.

961
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: Cooper, right, is is QB island about projection though? Or

962
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: is what you've done this season? And it can't just be.

963
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: I, P and F. That's that's the argument.

964
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 6: That's just like the hundred best players at twenty twenty five,

965
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 6: we're not talking about past. We're talking about what's gonna happen.

966
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 6: It's a projection or past. So you know, this is

967
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 6: tough because there are there are three dudes who I

968
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 6: think could really push to get on. That's why I

969
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 6: think Matthew Stafford is still on the on the teeter totter.

970
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: This Okay, it's gonna be close, and yet he does

971
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: not farewell to PFF's overall grades, which in theory should

972
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: remove like the surroundings, but doesn't. Really it's impossible to

973
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: do twenty ninth, he's eleventh in QBR twenty fifth and

974
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: completion percentage over expected.

975
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: So we'll see.

976
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 1: How about Darnold. He got on last time around. He's

977
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 1: only played three games since. One was a win where

978
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: he played terribly against the Jets in London where he

979
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: really dragged them down. I thought he had a couple

980
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: of plays and then there was a couple of losses

981
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: where I don't think he was the problem. No, but

982
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: he wasn't exactly. It wasn't necessarily the solution. Maybe not

983
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: quarterback island worthy.

984
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: What do you think?

985
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 4: I feel like he should still be on quarterback island

986
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 4: and that he's being judged on his name and not

987
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 4: his play.

988
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 8: As Chris Wesseling would say, when you look.

989
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 4: At his first four games, Darnold obviously completed sixty eight

990
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: percent of his passes league high eleven touchdowns, three interceptions.

991
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 4: He was throwing the ball downfield an average depth of

992
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: target of.

993
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 8: Eight point eight.

994
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 4: But obviously then came the horror show in London against

995
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 4: the Jets.

996
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 2: They watched it.

997
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 4: That was the worst game for him of the season.

998
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 4: But the last two weeks he's completing seventy six percent

999
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 4: of his passes, four hundred and ninety nine yards, three touchdowns,

1000
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 4: one interception. He's getting hit a ton and he's you're old,

1001
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 4: they're winning is what we're winning?

1002
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: What do your eyes tell you?

1003
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: Though?

1004
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: Like to me, it's like, if you're going to be

1005
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 1: on the island, you've got to be a difference maker.

1006
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: Is he a difference maker? Is he going up and down?

1007
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: What his surroundings are numbers why sixteenth and PFF twentieth

1008
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: over the last four weeks, thirteenth in QBR. He also

1009
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: doesn't throw the ball that much, which kind of matters

1010
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: to me, like guys who maybe have to do more

1011
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: twelfth and success rate fifteenth and epa. So what that

1012
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: would say is like he's sort of on the borderline

1013
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: despite a good situation, even statistic.

1014
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 7: You're reaching the part of the Sam Darnold gear. You've

1015
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 7: seen this sometimes with quarterbacks in the past, and there's

1016
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 7: no reason to think that he can't progress forward after

1017
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 7: sort of hitting a neutral zone a little bit with

1018
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 7: what he's doing right now. But you're reaching the part

1019
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 7: of it's not bad, but it's also not elevating. It's

1020
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 7: being elevated by and that's fine, especially in the middle

1021
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 7: portion of the year when it's the weather starts to change,

1022
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 7: when you start to figure things out after a couple

1023
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 7: of bad losses. Losing his left tackle when we talk

1024
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 7: about ascending or losing the left tackle is going to.

1025
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 3: Be really tough because they left that was really good.

1026
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and so but I think you're starting to see

1027
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 7: the version of Sam Darnald and you expected this to

1028
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 7: be coming. This is not a bad thing where Kevin

1029
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 7: ok the Kevin O'Connell factor, and leaning on the offensive

1030
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 7: coordinator and leaning on excuse me on the on the

1031
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 7: play caller and the game designer to and the playmakers

1032
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 7: around to now lift the quarterback just a little bit

1033
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 7: higher where he's not, like I said, not bad, but

1034
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 7: just sort of in that neutrality point, that that sort

1035
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 7: of middle median zone where you're not necessarily the one

1036
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 7: elevating the team around you.

1037
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 6: I like that argument because so many other people I

1038
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 6: think should be on put him at a risk.

1039
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing point.

1040
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: And sometimes the stats I think Sam Sam Donald's passing,

1041
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: like basic passing that's always look a little better. It's

1042
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: kind of like Russell wasn't because the things he struggles

1043
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 1: with are he take he fumbles the ball, He takes

1044
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: too many sacks like that safety that should have been

1045
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: called the penalty. He should have not been holding the

1046
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: ball so long on that play. That was bad quarterback.

1047
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: And he's just sitting back there. That twenty yard sack

1048
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: that he took earlier in that Thursday was a good

1049
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: Those don't show up in the box scores necessarily. How

1050
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: about Jalen Hurts your guy in Philly coming off one

1051
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: of his best games.

1052
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: Of his career. Yeah, that was a great season.

1053
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: Thrown over the middle of the field and on design

1054
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: runs like the two things that you get on him for,

1055
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: and he played great. They're playing better overall. I mean,

1056
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: I think he deserves that game conversation.

1057
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 4: He had his highest passer rating, three rushing touchdowns. He

1058
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 4: has five rushing touchdowns in the last two games. The

1059
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: Eagles have won three straight games, and he's dealing with

1060
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: Nick Sirianni on top of all of them.

1061
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 8: So I think that he deserves a ticket to the Island.

1062
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 7: Question for the group, how many games per sample size

1063
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 7: are in our quarterback Island selections?

1064
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: Oh, the whole season.

1065
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 5: But when we were talking.

1066
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 7: About how we section out splits things like that, it's

1067
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 7: we go four games at a time, right, So that's

1068
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 7: it's a hypothetical question.

1069
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 1: Since last time, I'm personally taking the whole season into account,

1070
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: but kind of recapping what's happened since last time and

1071
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: added to the mix.

1072
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 5: Right, Well, that was.

1073
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 7: A hypothetical, but I'm using it to say over the

1074
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 7: last three games, not just the last game, but the

1075
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 7: last three games have been some of the best Jalen

1076
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 7: Hurts football that we've seen in a while. He's third

1077
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 7: in EPA per dropback over the last three games, and

1078
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 7: he has nine touchdowns. He's forty two for fifty nine

1079
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 7: with no interceptions, seventy one point two percent complete completion percentage,

1080
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 7: and they have their run game going and he's managing

1081
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 7: some of the things that are necessary for them to

1082
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 7: have this balanced offense again despite some of.

1083
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 5: The circumstances that they went through earlier.

1084
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 7: So I would say, like, it's not just the one

1085
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 7: game that's spiking his case.

1086
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 5: I think it's three games.

1087
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: I pushed back a little because I think the two

1088
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: previous were not good Jalen Hurts. They were good statistically,

1089
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: but he's seeing the field and they are transitioning to

1090
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: a run first type.

1091
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 5: Of I think he was seeing it a little bit slow,

1092
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 5: a little bit.

1093
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: Slower right, not like open receivers and not taking it,

1094
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: and like, like, I have a feeling he didn't grade

1095
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: that well within the team in those couple games. I

1096
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: have a tough one with him because I like him

1097
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: a lot. He's coming off a good game, but I

1098
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 1: also see that he's maybe not the most important person

1099
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: in the happy.

1100
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 6: I'm with you on that, and that's that's why I'm like,

1101
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 6: he was great, you know, and having a j Brown

1102
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 6: back makes all of a difference. Right We're seeing these

1103
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 6: quarterbacks getting their number one receivers back Matthew Stafford and

1104
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 6: playing well. But I just coming off a great game.

1105
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 6: But the other two people in Philadelphia were still ready

1106
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 6: to run him out the door.

1107
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 8: No, not him.

1108
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: They were not loving it.

1109
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: I mean it was It was a lot of Sirianni.

1110
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 4: It was a lot of the coaching staff. That was

1111
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 4: a lot of the Kellen Moore in the play calling.

1112
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: I'm happy for Nick Sirianni to have this is it.

1113
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: This is the first week of the entire season where

1114
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: he can be like, yeah, that's the main story.

1115
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 7: On No.

1116
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: Probably not.

1117
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: He's like like, no one's gonna make fun of my

1118
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 1: haircut anymore.

1119
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 3: All right, let's talk. He's on the fence. If we

1120
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 3: pull enough people off, he gets on. Okay, I've got

1121
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 3: some other people.

1122
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: Okay, Dak is a guy we're not voting on right now.

1123
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,720
Speaker 1: But I don't think I'm out of pocket to say,

1124
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: of all the guys who have been on, he's vulnerable.

1125
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 5: I think he's very vulnerable.

1126
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: Okay, explain anyone want to explain why you think he's vulnerable.

1127
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 6: I mean, what are they got going on? I mean,

1128
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 6: he hasn't been horrible, but we talk about difference makers. Yeah, yeah, again,

1129
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 6: not all that's on him. He's got Cede Lamb and.

1130
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: Exactly and the numbers, so I don't think he's playing well.

1131
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: I think you can.

1132
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: He has one game with a one hundred passer rating

1133
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: and the rest are sub ninety two.

1134
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: The numbers are brutal for him.

1135
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: Twenty sixth PFF, twenty third QBR, twenty eighth EPA per play,

1136
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: twenty ninth success rate, like.

1137
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: Not even in the zip code.

1138
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: Now, I think he's better than all that, but I

1139
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: do believe in Dak press got enough that he should

1140
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: be better than this.

1141
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: I think it's the worst he's played as a pro.

1142
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: Really.

1143
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: I guess a couple of years ago he had some interceptions,

1144
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: but I think he was playing well and having some

1145
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: bad luck and making some mistakes.

1146
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: This time, it's just.

1147
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 7: I would sort of add to that point to being like,

1148
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 7: you can ask your quarterback if you are an above

1149
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 7: average to elite level quarterback, somewhere in that window or

1150
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 7: that that general tier. You can ask your quarterback to

1151
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 7: do a lot of things for you, and they did.

1152
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 7: And you saw he made the most of the situation

1153
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 7: earlier in the season. It's part of the reason why

1154
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 7: he's on the island in the first place. But if

1155
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 7: you take away this guy's defense and you continue to

1156
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 7: stall out and just like have a disgusting run game,

1157
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 7: it just doesn't move the ball. If you're not moving

1158
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 7: the ball, if you have no other weapons, if you

1159
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 7: have no other weapons, and then the guy you do

1160
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 7: have it's every week or so, it just depends. Is

1161
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 7: he a match for the scheme, what's going on with

1162
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 7: the scheme? If you have the owner on the radio

1163
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 7: calling out bad scheme and bad plays, if you have

1164
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 7: different things, you're taking so much away from this guy.

1165
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 7: You're asking him to be a superhero, and at some

1166
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 7: point you just hit a wall. You're probably you know what,

1167
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised. They're different quarterbacks, but I very

1168
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 7: different quarterbacks. But I wouldn't be surprised if at some

1169
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 7: point across the end of the stretch you also see

1170
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 7: Joe Burrow hit some kind of a wall. You're asking

1171
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 7: too much, just because these guys can do these things,

1172
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 7: doesn't mean they have to do or should have to

1173
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 7: do all of it. And you have to get him

1174
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 7: some help, whether wherever, on which side of the ball.

1175
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: Pick one.

1176
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Well, I think he's going to need a realtor soon.

1177
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: He's got a you know, a burgeoning family, and I

1178
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: think he's renting on quarterback island right.

1179
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 8: Now, gonna AIRBNBA.

1180
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: Maybe let's talk about someone we're not going to go

1181
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: deep into. I just want to give Trevor Lawrence some

1182
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: pop up having a nice couple of weeks. If he

1183
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: plays like he played the last three weeks for four

1184
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: more weeks in a row, we'll be talking him out

1185
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: of more in depth next time.

1186
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: On quarterback.

1187
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 3: If Brian Thomas is legit, now.

1188
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: He's not a risk. He's not getting on the island though.

1189
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: Now how about Kyler?

1190
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 6: Okay, I was banging for him last time, right, what's

1191
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 6: he done? They're playing better football. We're talking about as

1192
00:51:55,440 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 6: sending players. We're talking about quarterbacks uplifting everybody else. Everyone's

1193
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 6: jock riding him. Yes, I'm using that expression right now.

1194
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 6: Everybody's fantasy guy. Oh G, who's throwing him the ball?

1195
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 6: Who's making things happen with him, Marvin Harrison getting some

1196
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 6: things done.

1197
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray.

1198
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 6: We can sit here and argue about all that when

1199
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,399
Speaker 6: you look how Kyler Murray has been playing, running the ball,

1200
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 6: throwing the ball, getting this offense going. Guess who's guess

1201
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 6: who's in the hunt now for the NFC West.

1202
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 7: They're a top ten offense now, Yes, e P. Tyler,

1203
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 7: Greg and I were texting about this because we believed

1204
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 7: in the Cardinals offense as much as they've disappointed us

1205
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 7: and let us down and made some questionable decisions and

1206
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 7: play calls at certain points. When Kyler, to your point,

1207
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 7: is involved in the run surface, not necessarily designed runs,

1208
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 7: but when he gets involved gram in the run surface,

1209
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 7: this is a totally different team. Trey McBride being back,

1210
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 7: James Connor, some people believed in him the entire time.

1211
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 7: It just he When you have all of these elements

1212
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 7: mixed in and this and the play caller is making

1213
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 7: efficient sound decisions and personnel decisions in terms of the

1214
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 7: formations and the groupings, this is again a futuristic offense

1215
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 7: in twenty twenty four.

1216
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there would be a burgeoning gaming community on.

1217
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 3: Sounds, some psychedelics.

1218
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 5: Video games and mushrooms, Colleen in this island sounds amazing.

1219
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: I love that he's seventh in PFF. His like advanced

1220
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: passing metrics are all about borderline of what would be

1221
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: on the island somewhere, you know, depending on what you like,

1222
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: ninth to fourteenth, something like that. But then when you

1223
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: add in the rushing value, you add not a lot

1224
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: of negative plays, not like fumbles are interceptions. I think

1225
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: the biggest negative to him is I think sometimes their

1226
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: coordinator is like, can you just run the play that well?

1227
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: And that has some fluctuations, Like if we had this

1228
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: conversation a couple of weeks ago would be there's fluctuations.

1229
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: But we're coming off a game where he was spinning

1230
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: it against Miami and those look like the plays that

1231
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 1: were called really nice throws. There is something about the

1232
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 1: whole like defining the season to me. The fact that

1233
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: he's called his shot on about three or four long

1234
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: touchdowns forty yards out. Love that that gives him a

1235
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: little extra juice. Perdy hasn't had a lot of juice

1236
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: this year, and maybe we didn't even maybe he could

1237
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: have been in the safe category, but been a little.

1238
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: Rickety over the last four weeks.

1239
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,359
Speaker 1: So I just thought we'd we'd throw him out here,

1240
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: but a very solid I've got.

1241
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: Bad, I've got Brocks back here.

1242
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 6: He's the way the stuff he's done with with Jennings

1243
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 6: and the in and out cast receivers, and he's still

1244
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 6: he's still getting after it. We saw him run the ball.

1245
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 6: You added what'd you call it? The run surface value?

1246
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: Jordan. I look this dude, this dude.

1247
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 6: We could put him on any of these teams that

1248
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 6: the other guys in the Quarterback Island are doing.

1249
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: And he's playing ball.

1250
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: I gotta stay.

1251
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I don't think And you saw this, you

1252
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 7: know when he fell on the on the potential. I

1253
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 7: mean he got hit so hard. He should have fumbled

1254
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 7: that ball on Sunday night. And was it Monday night,

1255
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,520
Speaker 7: Sunday night, Monday night against the time one base Time

1256
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 7: has no meaning anymore, especially on the island. No, but

1257
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 7: he like the the they already have made enough, you know,

1258
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 7: whether it is. And my colleague Marcus Thompson wrote about

1259
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 7: this over the Athletic Great Legendary Columnist, and he's commenting

1260
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 7: on the fact that, you know, Rock Purty hasn't played

1261
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 7: at an elite level the entire time. He's made the

1262
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 7: most of a complete opposite ethos that this team had

1263
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 7: to play with. Whether it was the beginning of the

1264
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,280
Speaker 7: year then he had some rough spots, but wasn't necessarily

1265
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 7: like a detriment or pulling back the team.

1266
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 2: The Machafe game was the one negative.

1267
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 3: Right.

1268
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 7: The mistakes and the self inflicted wounds are coming from

1269
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 7: elsewhere in the house for the most part, right, And

1270
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 7: so even when there was an opportunity for him to

1271
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 7: really look lost when letting go that football on the sack,

1272
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 7: he didn't.

1273
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 5: He held on.

1274
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 7: And so what Marcus was saying is he's sort of

1275
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 7: embodying how they have to just like gut through some

1276
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 7: of this stuff and mitigate the huge issues until they

1277
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 7: can get this thing clicking back. And he's been the

1278
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 7: right quarterback for them to do it.

1279
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's here's an interesting question.

1280
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 6: You know, because you know Brock Parties gonna be the

1281
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 6: next up to make the sixty million dollars a year.

1282
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 3: Do you think that's a wise investment?

1283
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 6: Because I do, Because to your point, Jordan, he's not

1284
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 6: the guy who's going to pull you back now, is

1285
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 6: he necessarily going to be the guy to lead you

1286
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 6: to the Promised Land.

1287
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 3: Maybe think things things have to work all round.

1288
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 4: Him would do that because after what he went through

1289
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: before Free Lance.

1290
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 6: I'm just kind of to me, that's a that's as

1291
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 6: safe as an investment as you can make.

1292
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 3: And give him Block Party that money.

1293
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 1: I think so too. And and he's young. It's tricky,

1294
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: but he already took him to the promised Land. As

1295
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, he was in spots where he

1296
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: needed touchdown after touchdown after touchdown. The NFC Championship got it,

1297
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: needed scores on drive after driving after driving, the Super

1298
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: Bowl got it. His defense let him down like it

1299
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: is what it is, otherwise he'd be the Super Bowl champion.

1300
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 1: He he did pull things off the table against the Chiefs,

1301
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: one of the worst games I've ever seen brock pre

1302
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: But there's been eight games here, yeah, in the season,

1303
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: and I agree with everything else that we're being said.

1304
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: So fifth in PFF actually higher this year in PFF

1305
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: than he was a year ago, ninth in QBR. Over all,

1306
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: the numbers are pretty good for Brocky.

1307
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 3: And you didn't have him as a lock. You didn't have.

1308
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 2: Maybe he should have been a lock. I just respect.

1309
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 2: I just figured we should talk about him, Jordan.

1310
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is an almost impossible guy to talk about

1311
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: right now, because it is impossible.

1312
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 4: You're right, people, people want to go on vacation with

1313
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 4: a groin injury, right Noboddy defeats the whole purpose.

1314
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 5: Somehow our two sentences connected with each other.

1315
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 3: Oh God, I was so ready.

1316
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 5: Greig's ready to be done with us.

1317
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: No, I love it, you know, I love groin injuries.

1318
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 3: He clearly have never had one, because I've had one.

1319
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 1: Greg, So I was ready to make a case for Love,

1320
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: you know, to make a case for him to be

1321
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: on the island. Then he got hurt halfway through the game,

1322
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: and it' said this other just in tween because he

1323
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: might end up playing this week and it ends up

1324
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: being fine. But already he had a weird case for

1325
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: quarterback island, because I think you're having to look past

1326
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: some of the numbers to me and trust what your

1327
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: eyes are, which is that he is the most confident

1328
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. He is making some of the

1329
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: toughest throws week after week after week, and style points

1330
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: count a little bit. Yeah, It's like, it's not like

1331
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: the numbers are bad. He's got fifteen touchdowns, and he

1332
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: missed a couple of games, and and he's completing passes

1333
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: down the field like he's very aesthetically pleasing to one.

1334
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 6: But how good of a coach is Matt Laflor and

1335
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 6: that offensive staff because Malik Willis. Malik Willis has come in,

1336
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 6: won a game, came in that game and bold.

1337
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, nine touchdowns, five interceptions over the last four game.

1338
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 7: Obviously some of its injury whatever, but like I do

1339
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 7: worry about the injury. I kind of neutralized him on

1340
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 7: this particular in this conversation to kill people for injuries.

1341
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not neutered him neutralized right, Ye, here we go.

1342
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 4: It's been interesting against the Blitz though, Like under pressure,

1343
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 4: he's I mean, obviously every quarterback is different under pressure,

1344
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 4: but he's thirty first in EPA when being Blitz this season, so,

1345
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he's slightly better than Deshaun Watson, but worse

1346
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 4: than Gardner Minshew.

1347
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: Some of the advanced numbers aren't great for him. I

1348
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: think he does better on the eye test.

1349
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 6: Lan's numbers, though, what about your boy Gino? Okay, okay,

1350
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 6: the yard is totals are beautiful, but getting in the

1351
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 6: end zone, I.

1352
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 7: Hope he's doing okay. He's just been hit a lot,

1353
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 7: a lot of sunburns.

1354
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 2: He has been hit a lot.

1355
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: Like he's number one in you know, positive vp A

1356
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 1: like plus one positive, he's first in positive EPA, which

1357
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: which was the one I mentioned earlier, which is like

1358
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: it accounts for the situation. How many positive plays have

1359
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: you had considering the situation that you're in, And he's

1360
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: first in the league and that other stuff not so

1361
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: great like EPA for play eleventh, sixteenth in PFF over

1362
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: the last four like eleventh over our fourteenth in QUBR.

1363
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: He's on that borderline. My argument would be would be

1364
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: the ultimate just kind of watching him on a play

1365
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: to play basis, he feels like one of the best

1366
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: twelve quarterbacks in Yeah.

1367
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 3: He is.

1368
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 6: I just do that out there because the stats don't.

1369
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 6: I mean, besides, I think he's borderline.

1370
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Even as a fan, I don't think he's like definitely

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01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: on there.

1372
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Speaker 7: I think he's kind of where we were talking about

1373
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 7: Stafford last time, and some of it was situational contact context.

1374
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 7: That stat that you mentioned, like, let's dig into that

1375
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 7: a little bit better, because what that stat actually says

1376
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 7: is you are lifting this much despite the fact that

1377
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 7: in so many other major categories of this offense, you

1378
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 7: are at the floor. So because it factors in situational context.

1379
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 7: So it's basically saying, here's the level of hero ball

1380
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 7: you are playing. And I think that that's important to

1381
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 7: factor in because first of all, that's not sustainable and

1382
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 7: you could see that they're starting to really struggle. But

1383
01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 7: second of all, even though he's still playing, I think

1384
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 7: like a top twelve quarterback to our point in the

1385
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 7: NFL four weeks from now, let's check on it again.

1386
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, can I throw one out there that's a total

1387
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 6: wild card that I would love that.

1388
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 2: I thought were almost out of it. I have one.

1389
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 3: What about bon Nicks?

1390
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 5: Okay, oh you watched a lot of Bonis, haven't you.

1391
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 6: I mean, he's not he's not dazzling, but we're talking

1392
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 6: about uplifting your team. I think he is in the

1393
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 6: he's in the next time category discussion.

1394
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 1: No, he's in the get a nice little shout out

1395
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: from Steve Wish at minute fifty five. Yees, you know,

1396
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 1: but not way to push it really, Like, I mean,

1397
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: he played, he played well against Carolina. He's passing the

1398
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: test of like, are you an NFL quarterback or not.

1399
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 1: He is, which is to me like, if you're protective,

1400
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: can you deliver?

1401
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: And he is.

1402
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 5: But we're talking about great against the worst defense.

1403
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: What about Sean Payton that take? Yeah, we knew that

1404
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: offense we're playing wasn't very good.

1405
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 2: Played better. There's there's there's something there. I don't know

1406
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: what it is that there's something there.

1407
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 5: He doesn't say stuff like that without a reason.

1408
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is the last I think name we got

1409
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 1: to talk about were in depth before.

1410
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 8: Justin Herbert. He's lost at sea is he?

1411
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 5: You know, he's built.

1412
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 7: He's floating on his own little Herbie Island and hoping

1413
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 7: for a strong current to float him all the way

1414
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 7: up to Quarterback Island.

1415
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 5: And I think he can do it.

1416
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 4: It goes back to the point that you made weeks

1417
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 4: ago that Jim Harball is hiding his best aspect, which

1418
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 4: is his arm.

1419
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 8: He has a cannon.

1420
01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 4: He's twenty second in the league in attempts.

1421
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, it's getting better though. It's we're trending.

1422
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: We're trending better the last since the bye.

1423
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 2: I want to see him on the island. Yeah, I

1424
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 2: would love for him to be there.

1425
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: I look at the numbers and it's like, oh wow,

1426
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: he only has one interception.

1427
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 2: That's very Justin Herbert.

1428
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: He is combining being careful with I think the last

1429
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 1: three weeks starting to be aggressive. When he had that

1430
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: run and he was galloping out there like he was

1431
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: in the Kentucky Derby or something, I was like, ooh,

1432
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that out of Justin Herbert for a while.

1433
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: And he's ripping some greate one on one Froz Pete.

1434
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: I think now he is passing the eye test and

1435
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: and the production test.

1436
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 3: And they're in the playoffs, They're in the thick. They're

1437
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 3: in the thick of it.

1438
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: It's a snaff side of right now too when we're

1439
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: talking quarterback Island, and for what it's worth, I broke

1440
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: it down to just weeks five through eight. He only

1441
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: played three of those games because there's a bye week

1442
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: in there. He is PFF's number one quarterback over that time.

1443
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: Because you just don't see negative plays out of him

1444
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 1: right now.

1445
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 3: Just you know he's got more pass attempts at Jared Golf.

1446
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 5: Really, that's the thing well talk about last week.

1447
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean that's absolutely skewed the numbers last

1448
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:32,960
Speaker 6: week that's how crazy.

1449
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 5: We loved that box score so much.

1450
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he hasn't but here's the thing.

1451
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 6: He hasn't played in every game, and he plays in

1452
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 6: a run centric golfen yeah.

1453
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, And and he's been really let down by his receivers.

1454
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 7: We mentioned this two weeks ago. His receivers dropped seven passes.

1455
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 7: Seven passes, I mean, and that was a game that

1456
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 7: like nobody in the world watched, but it was he

1457
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 7: was spinning it. And so this he's playing like we

1458
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 7: know him to play. He's sort of doing it kind

1459
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 7: of like on Herbie Island, like in a vacuum.

1460
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 5: And I do think that at the beginning.

1461
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 7: Of the year, we do have to act in the

1462
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 7: fact that they were, and they have since alluded to

1463
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 7: this a few times publicly, they were playing a very

1464
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 7: different style of offense in part to help mitigate the

1465
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 7: injury and the pain that he's dealing with. So I

1466
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 7: do think, again, if we're going to talk about, first

1467
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 7: of all, sample size, which I thought.

1468
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 5: We weren't doing that, but where are we are?

1469
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 3: And I'm just.

1470
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 5: Kidding, I want to do it.

1471
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 3: For Herbert's climate. Climbing the coconut tree.

1472
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 2: Where they're playing right now.

1473
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 7: I just I'm trying to rally up Greg, but just

1474
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 7: in terms of the sample size of actually healthy Herbert

1475
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 7: playing in an iteration of this offense that is sort

1476
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 7: of developing toward what it's going to be, and factoring

1477
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 7: at the beginning you were dealing with the injury.

1478
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 5: Like I'm ready to see Herbert on the island.

1479
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is right.

1480
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 6: So this goes back when I covered the Dolphins and

1481
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 6: Jimmy Johnson first took over. He has Dan Marino, all

1482
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 6: these great receivers, and he runs the ball like you've

1483
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 6: got a dude who can do it, who can fling it,

1484
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 6: who can do all those great things.

1485
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 3: But you're giving it to kream Abdul Jabbar the running back.

1486
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 6: Version, instead of throwing it up to all the other guys.

1487
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 6: That's kind of what's going on with Herbert in a

1488
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 6: competitor like hell, man, if.

1489
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 7: If you had let Marina throw it, maybe Stafford wouldn't

1490
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 7: have passed him this last week.

1491
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 5: I got it, I might have to take him off

1492
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 5: the island, so I had to give him that.

1493
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 1: Let know, let's talk Stafford, Let's talk Herbert. There's about

1494
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: ten guys we're not gonna talk Rogers.

1495
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: We kind of did it. We're not going to vote

1496
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 2: on Lawrence.

1497
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: We're not going to vote on Caleb Williams or Russell

1498
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: Wilson or your.

1499
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: Guy Bo Nicks. We got about ten guys to vote on.

1500
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:29,600
Speaker 2: Let's do that.

1501
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 7: After the d.

1502
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: We are back on Quarterback Island.

1503
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 3: Let's get it.

1504
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 2: We've reached the voting portion of the program.

1505
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 1: Your hand is getting Steve White, That's what I was

1506
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: giving away his moves between the breaks, saying he only

1507
01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:06,160
Speaker 1: is kicking two people off. He's letting two people on

1508
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: before Jordan's wondering if it's possible that the size of

1509
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: Quarterback Island could be reduced at some point.

1510
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 5: You still haven't answered the question.

1511
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 3: We are.

1512
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: We are voting for twelve members of Quarterback Island, and

1513
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: we've already put seven on. It sounded like brock Purty

1514
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: didn't really need a vote, So I guess I'll vote

1515
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: on Rock just to make this quick, and we all

1516
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: make sure you vote out loud, because this is the

1517
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: rock audio medium. Yes, yes, okay, So we now have

1518
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: four spots left on the island. You know, we've got

1519
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 1: the guys that were on there before, and I think

1520
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: we're going to vote on Herbert Love, Hurt's cousins, Baker

1521
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:51,040
Speaker 1: Kyler are all there. So that's a total of ten

1522
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: guys for four spots. And I'll start with Dak Prescott

1523
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: because that one seemed like of all the guys that

1524
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 1: were on the islandland, he was in the most amount

1525
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: of trouble.

1526
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 2: It's nothing personal.

1527
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 8: That a clean sweep.

1528
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 2: Colleen, what is your answer?

1529
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 8: No, he's out, he's got to go.

1530
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 3: It's not the place gaming either.

1531
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 5: And we want better for you.

1532
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, we we want more for you. It was a

1533
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: great eight week run or whatever it was. You you

1534
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 1: were there in the preseason.

1535
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 4: I hope you don't get replaced by another NFC East quarterback.

1536
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: Okay, no, something tells me that you're not there. I

1537
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 1: feel like a four is hidden. Interesting, interesting, all right,

1538
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: so you know where he's Dak is is gone.

1539
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 3: We now ding Dingy's coming for Dad.

1540
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: We now have nine guys for those four spots. I

1541
01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: was pleasantly surprised by how encouraging you guys were about Gino.

1542
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 1: I thought you didn't really like me or necessarily like

1543
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: Gino that much.

1544
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring up Gino for vote.

1545
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying yes, it wasn't the best four week stretch.

1546
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't think he did enough to get kicked off

1547
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: the island. I think he's one of the twelve best

1548
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL. I vote yes, Steve, he's a

1549
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: he's a keeper.

1550
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 6: I told you I only got two guys coming off

1551
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:09,960
Speaker 6: in Geno.

1552
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 3: Ain't one? Oh?

1553
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 2: Okay, Jordan rod Rieg, whoop's wrong? One? She votes yes, yes, but.

1554
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 5: We'll see by the okay's.

1555
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 3: It's a soft yes wolf.

1556
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm going yes.

1557
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so Gino is watching. We have nine eyes

1558
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:28,839
Speaker 2: on him.

1559
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: Nine men on the island because I wasn't feeling a

1560
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,679
Speaker 1: lot of appreciation here for the groin injury. Let's talk

1561
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: Jordan Love. Does anyone want to vote yes on Jordan Love?

1562
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: Jordan Love? We have a no from Steve Weiss. No,

1563
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: remember to speak your vote out there.

1564
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 3: I have a no. I have a no. You narrated

1565
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 3: by no, So I left no.

1566
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: Thanks God, Okay, I gotta know, well, you know what

1567
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: he was. He was closer closer for me.

1568
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 6: You guys, you got are on the line there and

1569
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 6: the switcheroo.

1570
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: Okay, now we're getting into some really interesting So.

1571
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 3: Now we're so now we're saying there's nine guys.

1572
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 1: So far, there are nine guys on although things could change,

1573
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:15,719
Speaker 1: you could always try to kick someone off in theory,

1574
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:20,519
Speaker 1: these votes aren't aren't forever. Let's talk. Let's do Baker

1575
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 1: because that's another one. Did him versus Cousin's debate was interesting.

1576
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: I thought Cousins kind of kicked him off alone. And

1577
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 1: I vote no for Baker Mayfield.

1578
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 7: I vote no because I think that this is going

1579
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 7: to be really significant, losing his favorite pass catchers. Unfortunately.

1580
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 7: Hate to see that. His statistics are incredible. I don't

1581
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 7: want to take that away from him at all, but

1582
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 7: I'm seeing a quarterback who potentially is some trouble.

1583
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 6: I'm giving a super soft no. I mean, I'm closed,

1584
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 6: but it's a super soft no. Like if there's like

1585
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,719
Speaker 6: I said, I've only got ten or two spots open,

1586
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 6: he's not one of the two, but if a third

1587
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 6: comes open, I'm changing my vote.

1588
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 4: Wow, Yes, because I thought that we were doing this

1589
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 4: BA based on what they did up until this point.

1590
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 2: What is project It's absolutely up to you.

1591
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 4: It's like the top one exactly all right, So I

1592
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 4: lose out, but I wish he was on.

1593
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:15,960
Speaker 7: I think he could use your riptide to pull Absolutely.

1594
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 1: It might be too early to stand for fla baby. Okay,

1595
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: so Baker has been voted a no.

1596
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 2: While while we're on the Baker is off topic.

1597
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:34,480
Speaker 1: This is this is a borderline guy here, Kirk Cousins.

1598
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 1: We have three spots here after Purty and Gino available

1599
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: on the island. Man who wants to make a case.

1600
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 6: I'm going, yes, I'm swag surfing this one all the

1601
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 6: way to the island. Kirk Cousins. Yeah, say he's he's

1602
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 6: killing Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Guess what he's playing who's in

1603
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 6: front of them? Kirk Cousins is going to be ascending.

1604
01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 6: I'm using Jordan's argument.

1605
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 3: He's going to continue to keep rocking and rolling their offense,

1606
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 3: hitting the stride. They don't play Tampa anymore.

1607
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 7: I do have one question for Kis Steve, because Steve,

1608
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 7: I love that argument, I really do.

1609
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 5: But I have one question for you.

1610
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:13,000
Speaker 7: Who do you think could ascend to greater heights over

1611
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 7: this next stretch. Kirk Cousins or healthy Matthew Stafford with

1612
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 7: Pukakua and Cooper Cup. That's where I'm weighing in my

1613
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 7: head right now I'm.

1614
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 6: Going Kirk Cousins because of the division that he plays in.

1615
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:25,759
Speaker 6: I do think it's going to be just a murderer's

1616
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 6: row in the NFC West. Nothing is taking me off

1617
01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 6: of Perko Chains. That's a good point, Kerko Chains.

1618
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 4: Allie, I'm gonna know right now. For Kirk, I'm sorry,

1619
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: they got it. I just I don't love the way

1620
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,639
Speaker 4: that these games have played out that aren't against Tampa Bay.

1621
01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,120
Speaker 7: Steve, I loved your argument, but my point is too.

1622
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 7: I think that because I have him weighed between putting

1623
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 7: Stafford on or off, and I think a healthy Stafford

1624
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,800
Speaker 7: and a healthy Cooper and a healthy Pooka and a

1625
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 7: returning offensive line getting all their guys back, who protected

1626
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 7: Stafford the best that they have all year, allowed sack

1627
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 7: against the Raiders and the Vikings.

1628
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,640
Speaker 5: I think that that reaches.

1629
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 7: Greater heights with Stafford than Kirk Cousins potentially reaches.

1630
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 5: That's just that's my only argument.

1631
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm struggling with those two against each other. But I

1632
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: also think a quarterback's got to be more than just

1633
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: their surroundings. There's an undefinable thing about kirk o this

1634
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 1: year that he's just part of part of our lives

1635
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 1: in a way that's meaningful to me. I'm voting yes.

1636
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm voting yes. We're split right now on Kirk Cousins.

1637
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: That is going to be tabled just the second.

1638
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 3: We're not kicking anybody off except Dak then the way it's.

1639
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 1: Going exactly, we can keep talking, all right, We'll go

1640
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 1: on talk about who could get kicked off.

1641
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 2: How about Sam Darnold.

1642
01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 5: Are we voting to kick him off?

1643
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 2: Or you're either voting yes or no? Is he on

1644
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 2: the island?

1645
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: That's all?

1646
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 2: Is he on the island? That's that's the question. Is

1647
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 2: he on the island?

1648
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:52,280
Speaker 5: Is he on the island?

1649
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 7: I put you on the yes because I'm thinking of

1650
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 7: the advice using myself.

1651
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 4: I'm still a Sam Darnald girl, so I'm gonna say yes.

1652
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: So you're saying the deciding vote comes down to me

1653
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: for Sam Donald.

1654
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:10,760
Speaker 8: Oh no, poetic.

1655
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to do this, buddy. You're great.

1656
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 1: You're in the top fifteen right now, right on the borderline.

1657
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 3: You were waiting for this.

1658
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: You were gonna use your if you didn't get perfect.

1659
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 3: Tim hard he fought to keep him off. He gone.

1660
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,799
Speaker 1: So it's a review. Jordan Love's not making it. Baker's

1661
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: not making it. Sam Donald is kicked off the island.

1662
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 1: Have two open spots. Dak Prescott is kicked off the island.

1663
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: We haven't confirmed everyone that was on the island before.

1664
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: I guess let's talk about who could jump onto the island. Okay,

1665
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: let's talk about Justin Herbert. Does anyone want to make

1666
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: a case for Justin Herbert going onto the island? If so,

1667
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: speak now and explain why.

1668
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 8: I only have one spot right now.

1669
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: This other dude, Jordan has a yes going to ham

1670
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: for other guys have a yes.

1671
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, like I said before, I think he is

1672
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,879
Speaker 7: playing the best football among the best football many quarterback

1673
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 7: in the NFL. The way he's throwing the ball, the

1674
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 7: way that he can move, he has his feet and

1675
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 7: his legs back under him. They are it has been

1676
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 7: hit or miss in terms of actual production, but they

1677
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 7: are establishing some steadiness around him. I like Justin Herbert

1678
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,880
Speaker 7: throwing the ball better than almost anybody. I like Justin

1679
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 7: Herbert throwing the ball better than almost anybody in the NFL.

1680
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm voting yes, I'm Justin Herbert. I think he's clearly

1681
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: one of the best ten quarterbacks.

1682
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: In the league right now. He was injured early in

1683
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: the season.

1684
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 3: He was a guy.

1685
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: If he wasn't injured in training camp, I think it

1686
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 1: would have been on there to begin with. Just eye

1687
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: test and numbers. It's all happening for my guy, Herbo.

1688
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: We're split right now on Justin Herbert and Kirk Cousins.

1689
01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,479
Speaker 1: Perty's on as well? What range Gino's on as the

1690
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 1: tenth Who is the guy you want on so badly?

1691
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:55,519
Speaker 3: Kyler? Kyler Cayler Murray.

1692
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:56,879
Speaker 2: Kyler is your Yes.

1693
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 3: I've been fighting.

1694
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 6: This is like my third time going to bat for

1695
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 6: Kyler mur really is, and I am not like coming down.

1696
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 5: Don't think about them. Just make eye contact with me.

1697
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,800
Speaker 7: If you give me Stafford over Cousins, I'll give you

1698
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 7: Kyler done.

1699
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,719
Speaker 5: Wow, we're waking out.

1700
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 3: We're here.

1701
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 2: What do we not even matter?

1702
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 8: Alliance was made?

1703
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 3: God, we're playing dirty.

1704
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 2: Okay, let's one spot because we just it. They don't

1705
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 2: get anybody off. Who says the two of you can

1706
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 2: just put Kyler or Stafford on? What if we had

1707
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 2: both as no votes.

1708
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 5: Because we split the vote last time, didn't.

1709
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 2: We We haven't even voted.

1710
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 6: There's only there's only the staff there's really only one

1711
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 6: other guy that to vote.

1712
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 3: He's holding it. I know exactly who who you're gonna do.

1713
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 1: This is good though, you want just put our cards out.

1714
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 1: Let's put our cards.

1715
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 8: Jalen Hurts goes in. Dak Prescott goes.

1716
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 3: Out, Dak Prescott, who got da Donald out? Already?

1717
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 6: Right?

1718
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 8: Donald? Okay?

1719
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 6: So yeah, yes you're voting. Are we kicking the third out?

1720
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,639
Speaker 6: Are we saying that ten are definitely on?

1721
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: Let's talk Matthew Stafford, because if you're saying.

1722
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 3: I give you.

1723
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 8: No, no, no, what I mean I already did.

1724
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 2: We have to make see if if a spot is open?

1725
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 5: Right yeah, oh, let's recalculate.

1726
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,200
Speaker 6: Because I could, I could, I could hear a good

1727
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 6: Jalen argument if he kicks.

1728
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:19,200
Speaker 2: Let's hear about Jalen Hurts. Well, I already gave you okay,

1729
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,200
Speaker 2: so who would to kick off?

1730
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: Then it's very it's very close to me. I'm a

1731
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: no on Jalen Hurts. It's just a numbers game. When

1732
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: I do the numbers for me, prety in Gino are

1733
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: eight and nine.

1734
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 2: Right now.

1735
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: That leaves two players were split on Herbert and Cousins.

1736
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: It also leaves Stafford and Kyler. Jalen Hurts is in

1737
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: that mix as well. So there's three spots and there's

1738
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 1: five guys for me. Those five guys Herbert, Cousins, Stafford, Kyler,

1739
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,759
Speaker 1: and Hurts, only three can go on. Hurts is last

1740
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: out of those five guys. So I vote no on

1741
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts just to eliminate him.

1742
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 6: Oh my god, just sorry, just real quick though, I'm

1743
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 6: not I'm not gonna.

1744
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna cast my vote yet.

1745
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 6: Okay, because us Jalen Hurts, then over Kyler or Herbert.

1746
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 2: M hm, you have him over all.

1747
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 3: We made the alliance on her.

1748
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 5: Well, on Stafford. We made the alliance and Kyler.

1749
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 8: So I keep track of this.

1750
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's like Herbert and Jalen.

1751
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:19,680
Speaker 7: So I have Herbert, Stafford and Murray, which would, unfortunately

1752
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 7: I don't want to do this, leave Jalen Hurts the

1753
01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 7: odd man out, and I did argue for his over there.

1754
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 4: Do you actually believe that Kyler should go on ahead

1755
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 4: of Jalen Hurts or are you just doing it for

1756
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 4: the alliance for Stafford to stay.

1757
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 3: I would take I would take Kyler over the other two.

1758
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,320
Speaker 7: Okay, I think I think Kyler Kyle the ceiling that

1759
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 7: he has showed as a quarterback that he's higher than

1760
01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 7: Jalen's currently.

1761
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 8: Yes, Okay, I.

1762
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,520
Speaker 3: Would take Jalen over Herbert.

1763
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 5: Okay, I like that. Yeah, but alliancing are you making?

1764
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm just saying I would.

1765
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, if we're weighing, If we're weighing them out.

1766
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: Let's vote on Jalen Hurts yes or no.

1767
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:03,679
Speaker 3: We got we got to get a third off.

1768
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: So we're split again, Steve, Yes.

1769
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, so so so the tie stays to the incumbent.

1770
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 1: Then we have we have five different players. We have

1771
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: not officially voted here on Matthew Stafford either. You guys

1772
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,679
Speaker 1: made an alliance and the two of you said yes,

1773
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: but we hadn't heard from Colleen and I, oh no,

1774
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: he's still on.

1775
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 2: So if he is still.

1776
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 1: On according to Colleen, then on the island, so is Gino,

1777
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,799
Speaker 1: so is Purty. We're going to have two new members

1778
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: of Quarterback Island. It is very exciting, Kirk o Chains.

1779
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,839
Speaker 1: Even though I believed in you, Kirk, Steve Weisch believed

1780
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 1: in you.

1781
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 3: You're gone.

1782
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 1: The alliances, Uh, they went against you. Frankly, you couldn't

1783
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: play the game well enough, we have two spots for

1784
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,160
Speaker 1: three guys. This is hard, justin Herbert Kyler, Murray in

1785
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts.

1786
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 8: That's really tough.

1787
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,520
Speaker 1: Wait, two spots for three two spots for three guys.

1788
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 1: So I think we should all just write down on

1789
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:03,600
Speaker 1: who we don't want on, and if there's a majority,

1790
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 1: pen I will give it to you. I'm going to

1791
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: write down one name.

1792
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 8: So you're you're writing who who you.

1793
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,719
Speaker 1: Don't want to make it, who you don't think deserves

1794
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 1: to make it.

1795
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 2: You can write it down.

1796
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 3: That deserves a numbers game. It's a number of games.

1797
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,679
Speaker 3: We're in the savagery, savagery.

1798
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 8: Who shouldn't go on?

1799
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: Who shouldn't go on? Out of the three people? It's

1800
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,680
Speaker 2: because all three of them are really good. Same thing

1801
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: with Koh, he got left off.

1802
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 8: I thought he think you're going to be able to

1803
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 8: see this on Ken.

1804
01:19:34,479 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: No you won't.

1805
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: We're going to just say it out loud. But it's

1806
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 1: for our purposes what we're split. I am saying that

1807
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts does not make it onto the Island. I

1808
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 1: still care about you as a person, Colleen. I know

1809
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,639
Speaker 1: Colleen says Kyler does not make it. I'm saying Herbert,

1810
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: and so the deciding vote, it's up to Jordan Rodger,

1811
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 1: who is not making it onto quarterback Island.

1812
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,759
Speaker 7: I already made my case for I think Justin Herbert's

1813
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 7: playing the best football of many quarterbacks, top five quarterbacks

1814
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 7: for sure.

1815
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 5: Right now.

1816
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 7: I agree with you on Kyler Luriy and I will

1817
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:16,040
Speaker 7: not back out of Hyland integrity. Oh, I'm sorry, it's

1818
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 7: a numbers game. I love how he's playing right now.

1819
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 7: But Colleen, it's Jalen.

1820
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: Hurt, Jalen hurt. I'm sorry, make it.

1821
01:20:23,280 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 5: It pains me. I'm sorry.

1822
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, I'll see you guys in four weeks.

1823
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: The alliance was strong.

1824
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Kyler Murray and Justin Herber and I said it.

1825
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 2: I was going into this not knowing.

1826
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 3: How it was gonna happen.

1827
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 2: I did not think Kyler Murray was making onto this island.

1828
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 3: Id se Kirk couldn't make it, and it's.

1829
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: It's always same here.

1830
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: I thought Kirk was gonna make it on It's it's

1831
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: always it's always the little guys.

1832
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,439
Speaker 2: You didn't see coming. He just scampered his way and

1833
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 2: popped out of that water.

1834
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: I've been fighting for Kirk. Kyler's in stay one.

1835
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: The short happy for you and also for me. Look,

1836
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 2: I hope I'm happy for everyone here. I hope Colleen

1837
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 2: that you're so glad you guys are happy your friendship

1838
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: with Jordans can survive this.

1839
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: She's not staying late to get to do with the

1840
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:10,320
Speaker 3: Germany flight made.

1841
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: Let's just recap again. Who is on Quarterback Island?

1842
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:15,719
Speaker 3: Uh?

1843
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 2: Many of the same guys from before.

1844
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:22,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Joe Burrow, let's play that music, Jadeen Daniels,

1845
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:27,759
Speaker 1: Way to go, jade Daniels a rookie, Jared got Lamar Jackson,

1846
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Rock Purty and Geno Smith, Matthew Stafford. You

1847
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: survived and then let's welcome to the island. In addition

1848
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,679
Speaker 1: to save Stroud who has been there all along, Justin

1849
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 1: Herbert and Kyler Murray.

1850
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: The Quarterback Island got younger the.

1851
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 6: NFC West though NFC West is like quartered the big

1852
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 6: block on the island for now.

1853
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: For now, talk about an alliance they could get together

1854
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: the entire.

1855
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 6: Jamis Black Oor comment Jamis and Black Oh my god?

1856
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1857
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: Who crazyland? Will it be in in four weeks time?

1858
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: Will will Jalen Hurts make that case, will Kirko chains

1859
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: prove Sjordan and Colleen were shortsighted and not believing in them.

1860
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: Who knows, Maybe.

1861
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 1: Caleb starts playing better. Could be anyone, could be Baker

1862
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 1: proving us back. It could be Dak getting his revenge.

1863
01:22:18,479 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 1: But that's it for Quarterback Island. I'm looking forward to

1864
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 1: the great. It was great until the part of the

1865
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 1: show where I completely lost track of what was happening.

1866
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 3: That was.

1867
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 2: That was a tough moment. Let's take a quick.

1868
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 1: Break and we'll come back with Thursday Night Football. You

1869
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: might have to do Quarterback Island last from now on,

1870
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 1: doing something after that. Jets, the emotions are raw, the

1871
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 1: you know, friendships have been tested.

1872
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 3: It's it's just a comedown.

1873
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: It's time of the show for R T and F

1874
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: preview presented by Amazon Video.

1875
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 3: It's Texans Jets.

1876
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: It's the ultimate come down of the twenty twenty four

1877
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,439
Speaker 1: season the Jets. But look their schedule. Everyone keeps saying

1878
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: it opens up. It gets easy after this game. At

1879
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: least you're catching the Texans at the right time. No

1880
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, no Stefan Diggs in this matchup. The Jets

1881
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 1: are at home, Like what gets you going. Halloween Night,

1882
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: Texans Jets.

1883
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 2: Let's see how much time do we have to talk about?

1884
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,160
Speaker 2: What's whatever you want? Whatever you want?

1885
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 4: All right, I'll try to condense it. The offense has

1886
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 4: rhythm like Eli Manning dancing on Manning. The plays are

1887
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 4: coming in late. They can't line up in time. Three

1888
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 4: timeouts in the first quarter. Are you kidding me?

1889
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 3: You've never seen that before?

1890
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 4: The connection with DeVante Adams and Aaron Rodgers were still

1891
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 4: waiting on that. The defense gave up the game winning

1892
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 4: drive to the Patriots. Backup quarterback missed kicks so much

1893
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 4: so that there's a kicking competition before Thursday Night Football.

1894
01:23:57,080 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 4: None of the changes that they have made have made

1895
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 4: a difference, and they right now all three phases of

1896
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 4: the game seem to be contributing.

1897
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 8: So it's like a total team effort.

1898
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 4: For these losses, I just feel like they're all break

1899
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 4: no gas.

1900
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 7: Ooh wrapped it up with a bow.

1901
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 1: I love that it's a short week, Thursday night football

1902
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: team on the road. It's a tough spot. The Texans

1903
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: have certainly not been playing the type of football they

1904
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: want to play, but they've been finding ways to win

1905
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. These two teams I think

1906
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:35,800
Speaker 1: aren't that far apart in terms of what they're getting done,

1907
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: certainly on offense, and yet one team and I think

1908
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 1: the Texans deserve a lot of credit for this. It's

1909
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: almost like they're not getting the style points they want

1910
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 1: and the offensive line's not playing well.

1911
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: Come CJ.

1912
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 1: Stroud's numbers aren't crazy, and I'm thinking this team won

1913
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: what five games combined over two seasons just two years ago,

1914
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: and yet we're complaining about style points. They're learning how

1915
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: to win when they're not playing their best, and their

1916
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,960
Speaker 1: defense is very consistent than week after week, and they're

1917
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: going to get after Aaron Rodgers in this game.

1918
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: That's the thing I can you know, Oh my god, the.

1919
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 5: Most I'm worrying.

1920
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 7: You're starting to see some of the movement issues we

1921
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:10,559
Speaker 7: identified immediately in the season with the usage of pistol

1922
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 7: with the Falcons offense. They were only aligning out of

1923
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 7: pistol to try to add some illusion into their run game,

1924
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 7: some dimension. You're seeing the Jets almost quadruple. I mean,

1925
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 7: it was a very it was like three percent rate before,

1926
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 7: but now you're seeing them in the pistol a little

1927
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,559
Speaker 7: bit more. Makes me worry about how Aaron Rodgers is

1928
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,280
Speaker 7: actually feeling in terms of we already knew that he

1929
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 7: was hurting on the leg, and you know he just

1930
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,120
Speaker 7: wasn't When he gets crunched sometimes he looks really painful

1931
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,799
Speaker 7: to get up. But to me, that doesn't necessarily shift

1932
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 7: my thoughts about the play caller or the scheme. It

1933
01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 7: more so to me is a little bit of a

1934
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 7: tell of like where Aaron Rodgers is at physically and

1935
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 7: how he's feeling. And you're kind of feeling that energy.

1936
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 7: I mean, he seems like it's in a lot of pain.

1937
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,360
Speaker 6: Well, I mean you talk about the play callers. I

1938
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 6: mean he switched something up in the middle of the season.

1939
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 6: Todd Downing's had opportunities before didn't work, like with the

1940
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:02,559
Speaker 6: Raiders and another stifle. I mean, so they're still getting

1941
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:04,880
Speaker 6: used to a lot of this stuff. It's the chaos

1942
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 6: like you talked about. I mean, no surprise, this is

1943
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 6: how it typically goes with the Jets, who had I

1944
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 6: think at this time last year two more wins without Aaron, right,

1945
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 6: I think, So I may be wrong, but I'm gonna

1946
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 6: go to the Texas point thing.

1947
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:21,879
Speaker 3: And you talked about their defense.

1948
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 6: Look, they played last week without you know, as he's

1949
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 6: al Shire, they've got, you know, up the spine of

1950
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 6: the defense of some of their players. Yeah, so if

1951
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 6: he comes back, so thank you for pronouncing that right too,

1952
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,639
Speaker 6: because so many people butchered Toto.

1953
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:38,559
Speaker 3: Well done. You see the apostrophe, you know the Polynesian viols.

1954
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: They're still trying to get that invite to the Polynesian Bowl.

1955
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 3: So you're you're invited.

1956
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 6: You're invited, brother, But it's look, it's a situation where

1957
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:48,120
Speaker 6: they they're gonna get after Aaron Rodgers.

1958
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 3: They know exactly what to do.

1959
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 6: They see some of the chaos, like you talked about

1960
01:26:52,479 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 6: plays coming in late whatever, you know what, just run

1961
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 6: up tempo, hurry up offense or solutions to a lot

1962
01:26:58,479 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 6: of this stuff.

1963
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,520
Speaker 3: But again, having Jalen Peatree and having.

1964
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 6: Some of the players that they have at all three

1965
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 6: levels of that defense is a great thing. And speaking

1966
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 6: of defense, Jeff Allbrick, the new internetad coach, came out

1967
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 6: and basically said, yes, saus Gardner's tackling needs to be

1968
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 6: a little bit better, So let's just add a little

1969
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 6: bit more of the positivity around there by you know,

1970
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 6: having to maybe be a truth Teller, right, but arguably

1971
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 6: your best defensive player just keeps getting better.

1972
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, and calling out your best defensive player like that.

1973
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 7: I mean it is a message to him, certainly, and

1974
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,760
Speaker 7: you watch the tape on that, but like it's also

1975
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 7: a message to the entire defense. Next gen stats mind

1976
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 7: blowing stat here the Jets of miss eighty eight tackles

1977
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 7: this season tied for the fourth most, and that's not good. Yeah,

1978
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 7: and they allow four and a half extra yards per

1979
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 7: mistackle this season.

1980
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 3: Oh gee, that's nothing when you've got Ji Damian Pierce.

1981
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1982
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,679
Speaker 7: So it is a good matchup in terms of the

1983
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:56,760
Speaker 7: Texans interior offensive line against the Houston Texans front. Just

1984
01:27:56,800 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 7: collectively they're playing disastrously bad football, but you actually are

1985
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 7: going to be able to move the ball against the

1986
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 7: Jets conversely and mitigate some of that stuff because they're

1987
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 7: having issues in space and also against the run.

1988
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: In general, the Jets edg rushers aren't very good at

1989
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: aut Quinn Williams hasn't been great this season, but he's

1990
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: coming off his best game of the season. He was

1991
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,200
Speaker 1: dominant in that Patriots game. You know, talk about like

1992
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,600
Speaker 1: having what did you say about Eli.

1993
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 3: Rhythm?

1994
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I love that he leans into it. He

1995
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 4: owns it though. He's so funny.

1996
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 2: I mean, this really is.

1997
01:28:29,000 --> 01:28:29,719
Speaker 8: I love him.

1998
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: This Texans like line like talk about no rhythm. They're

1999
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: one of the worst coach teams in terms of their

2000
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 1: line play.

2001
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 3: I don't care.

2002
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:40,639
Speaker 1: I've seen to do his blitz and it's getting through,

2003
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,720
Speaker 1: it's getting home like Tunsil's even having so much Like

2004
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: there's just miscommunications and it's like quick pressure. And so

2005
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: if there's a team that could wake up the Jets

2006
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: pass rush, it would be this.

2007
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 3: On the other side of.

2008
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 1: The Texans will say maybe this is a rare team

2009
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 1: we can actually block and the vibes are certainly better.

2010
01:28:56,120 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 2: They're winning. I trust the Texans.

2011
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 3: Thursday night, the Jets come on.

2012
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Jalen Peetre has been playing well, Nickel, I got to

2013
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: take the Texans in this game as anyone.

2014
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: You think so, but I Thursday night's the wildcard for sure.

2015
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm picking the Texans.

2016
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm picking the Textans. It is hard to go

2017
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 3: with the Jets.

2018
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:19,599
Speaker 2: They would be two and seven.

2019
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: Something tells me they would like they're gonna stay part

2020
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 1: of the season, But I don't know.

2021
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: Two and seven. You're you're kind of no longer part

2022
01:29:26,479 --> 01:29:26,720
Speaker 2: of the.

2023
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 3: Season and well in that division.

2024
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying talk about Davante as all the

2025
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 6: other wide receivers are super.

2026
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 3: Happy, like Mary Cooper, we're talking about de Hopp.

2027
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:37,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're right, Fonte Adam, just.

2028
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: Like come on, yeah, it is absolutely a ridiculous thing

2029
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: sometimes joining your friends again, like, yeah, it doesn't always work.

2030
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: The Jets are favorite in this You found out the Jets.

2031
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:50,360
Speaker 3: On that note.

2032
01:29:50,479 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Uh, that's it for the t n F preview presented

2033
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: by Prime Video. Be sure to watch the Houston Texans

2034
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: take on the New York Jets this Thursday on Prime Video.

2035
01:29:58,640 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 3: Thank you for.

2036
01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: Joining us on and sometimes contentious, always entertained.

2037
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,680
Speaker 8: Anyone hurts needs to be on that island.

2038
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes confusing trip to quarterback Island. We'll be back the

2039
01:30:10,040 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Thursday preview show Steve Weisch, Patrick Claybonn and myself And yeah,

2040
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: when the left side of the table is ganging up

2041
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,040
Speaker 1: on Colleen Wolf, you know you know football is back.