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Speaker 1: This week it's Mark Gunnels. Uh yeah, who will? Who was?

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Speaker 2: We're gonna give him some props because he was right

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Speaker 6: He was, but I said, right now, he was almost

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Speaker 6: too right. You're still right when you're that far ahead

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Speaker 6: of the current account. He did call like nine months

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Speaker 5: Listen. I mean, honestly, I can't even defend it. I

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Speaker 5: can't defend. I'm like, I can't argue with the you know,

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Speaker 5: the fire. I want to but uh oh and.

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Speaker 1: That was quick.

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Speaker 2: Three games, oh and three bad start and that was it.

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Speaker 2: But we'll have Mark Gunnells in studio, be able to

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we're about to watch obviously, the Bills and Dolphins

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Speaker 2: in Buffalo and Rob g.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins coaches on the hot seat.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, to put that mildly, I mean the seat is

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Speaker 6: boiling as we speak. I'm surprised he might get it

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Speaker 6: in Miami.

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Speaker 1: ESPN dot Com did a big feature.

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Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you there's twelve and a half

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Speaker 2: points against the division rival. When things looked like terrible

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Speaker 1: So you're saying, just covering the spread will save his job. No, no,

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying for a gamblers, but gamblers, you

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Speaker 6: Saying, did a full feature on these Miami Dolphins, and

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Speaker 6: the point of it was, apparently last season they had

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Speaker 6: You got traded one of them with Tyreek Hill, who

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Speaker 1: He said that Dolphins.

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Speaker 6: Players, specifically those two and other players on the team,

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Speaker 6: had a quote lack of respect from Mike McDaniel. In fact,

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Speaker 6: that player went on record as saying that McDaniel trying

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Speaker 6: according to that player, was misconstrued as him being quote soft.

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Speaker 6: So all the things he was doing when they were winning,

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Speaker 5: This is a couple of examples to me, Rob of

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Speaker 5: while coaching is not a one size fit all thing,

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Speaker 5: you're coaching these guys, first of all, Rob, if your

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Speaker 5: team is set up with captains of Tyrieg Hill and

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Speaker 5: a couple of reasons why. Your captains are supposed to

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Speaker 5: be the one that set the tone right. The guys

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Speaker 5: we read this report, they're not ro Not only are

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Speaker 3: A little late. Okay, I can understand things happen.

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Speaker 5: They're missing meetings or just flat out leaving meetings or

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Speaker 5: leaving practice. You got multiple guys doing that. Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 5: is the same guy that's sending out flirtations. I want

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Speaker 5: to go back to Kansas City. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: be here. Trade me and these guys are supposed to

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Speaker 5: be your leaders. And one of the things that when

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Speaker 5: this with this guy. I gotta be hard on this guy.

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Speaker 5: This guy works hard and all he needs is a

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Speaker 5: say much because he here to play, he's here to practice,

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Speaker 5: you know, being able to manage those personalities. He came

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Speaker 5: though it's backfired where they're treating him like little bru

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Speaker 5: He's already a small guy, he's already young, and from

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Speaker 5: this report, they're treating him like little bruh, ignoring him,

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Speaker 5: they have no respect for him.

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Speaker 3: And you know what makes it worse, Rob And we

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Speaker 3: talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 5: When he won twenty of his first thirty three games

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Speaker 3: It was all right.

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Speaker 5: But now that he's losing, and now that the team

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Speaker 5: this is the challenge when you're trying to overly be

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Speaker 5: scale back. You can scale back then and again, I

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Speaker 5: think this is what's happening. He's getting backfired on trying

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Speaker 5: to be too cool, trying to be too hip, coming

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Speaker 5: in wearing you know, look at me, look at that,

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Speaker 5: the respect for him. This is what he's dealing with,

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Speaker 5: and he might ultimately lose his job. Here we're just

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Speaker 5: talking about Deshaun Foster. He might be in the same situation,

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Speaker 2: His money issue, and I just think this is what happens.

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Speaker 2: It's easy to throw arrows once things go bad. And

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Speaker 2: he was a younger, hippoer coach. This is why they thought.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Now you're saying, basically, he was getting credit for being

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Speaker 2: use that against him after he did have success, and

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Speaker 2: he did have a seventy piece at one point, and

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Speaker 2: they would call him a boy genius. It's easy for

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Speaker 2: people to when things go bad, that's when people come

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Speaker 2: out of the woodworks, and now they're going to point

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Speaker 2: out all the flaws and everything. It just comes with

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Speaker 2: if you're winning and you're doing that, winning covers up everything.

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Speaker 2: It's like makeup. I say it all the time. If

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Speaker 2: you win, you can get away with everything right. You

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Speaker 2: get away with calling people out and being gruff and

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Speaker 2: all that. Bill did it right, And as soon as

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Speaker 2: things didn't go that way, all they're tuning him out.

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Speaker 1: He's been around too long.

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Speaker 2: Or Greg Popovich, same thing, you know, when he was

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Speaker 2: winning in those championships. Yeah, now he's old and now

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Speaker 2: people are tired of hearing pop and he's outdated.

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Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying, Like it's the same guy.

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Speaker 1: Just things change.

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Speaker 2: And so I don't know if I could put it

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Speaker 2: exolving him, not at all, because that's how you're judged.

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Speaker 2: We talk about all the time, wins and losses. That's

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Speaker 1: It's the same way. If I'm going to give you.

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Speaker 2: A new contract because you won twenty of your first

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Speaker 2: to let I'm to let you go when you lose

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Speaker 2: your life, you know, ten of your last thirteen and

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Speaker 3: Here here's here's where I I. I understand what you're saying.

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Speaker 5: But the challenge I have is one of the things

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Speaker 5: do is one thing that's factual to me and anything.

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Speaker 5: It's set accountability. When you read this report, is that

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Speaker 5: guys have been running them up from day one. It's

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Speaker 5: just they It just they were talented. Tyreek Hill comes

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Speaker 5: straight off the I want to prove everybody wrong. Kansas

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Speaker 5: City doesn't want to sign me. Remember he talked, oh

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Speaker 5: two is better than Patrick Mahomes and he's going crazy

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Speaker 5: and all of that. So it looks good. But the

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Speaker 5: have you're not holding those leaders to those standards. And

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Speaker 5: they and maybe that's some GM two. They're calling for Grier.

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Speaker 5: They're flying turn flying real quick. They're flying airplanes round

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Speaker 5: that have fire uh Grier as well the general manage.

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Speaker 5: So so maybe he brought in the wrong guys couple

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Speaker 2: But go ahead, were you you talked about team captain.

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Speaker 2: Most of the time those are voted on by players.

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Speaker 2: The players didn't vote Tyreek Kill team captain. That's not

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Speaker 2: that's usually the locker room and the players, not the coach.

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Speaker 3: So and so I said, the coach has to hold

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Speaker 5: I can't have my star player when you read this,

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Speaker 1: But you can't have you can't be bad. I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'm not Mike McDaniel doesn't do anything for me in

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Speaker 2: Players do this all the time, and somebody's covered sports

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Speaker 2: he doesn't do this, he doesn't do that. No, maybe

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Speaker 5: we're building on something.

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Speaker 3: We've got that.

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Speaker 5: Now, let's try to go and fix the defense. For years,

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Speaker 5: Peyton Manning man the Coats are amazing. Offensive defense sucks.

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Speaker 5: So they finally were able to get it with Bob

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Speaker 5: Sanders and Freedy and matthis and all those guys, and

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Speaker 5: then all of a sudden, you go, oh, shoot, they're

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Speaker 5: a complete team.

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Speaker 3: They got to like punching the building the mouth offensively

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Speaker 3: is a great start.

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Speaker 2: If they win this game, what would be your conversation

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Speaker 2: that it was just a fluke, or or maybe they

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Speaker 2: turned the channel, maybe they turn the page, maybe they

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Speaker 2: change save this, save their season. No, I'm asking you

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Speaker 2: if they will know the answer, and they scored thirty points.

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Speaker 3: What the answer is no? Because my issue with them

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Speaker 3: is I don't buy that they would be in.

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Speaker 5: In it when they're down big or if they lose

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Speaker 5: one or two, meaning I don't buy the personalities in

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Speaker 5: the building. I think the personalities the building are going

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Speaker 5: to get down they lose two games or if they

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Speaker 5: have a bad you know, offensive two to three quarters.

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Speaker 2: But if the one tonight on the road in Buffalo

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Speaker 2: wouldn't mean anything to you, wouldn't help you.

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Speaker 5: I would say that's a good divisional win. And they might,

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Speaker 5: you know, be finding something because they scored. They scored

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Speaker 5: a bit last week. They just couldn't ultimate to pull

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Speaker 5: it off. So maybe the offense is starting to do something.

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Speaker 5: But I don't like the personnel where you know, part

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Speaker 5: of teams, the part of games and seasons, you're gonna

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Speaker 5: be down a little bit, you're gonna lose the game.

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Speaker 3: Are you gonna stick with it? And I don't trust

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Speaker 3: that personnel, is my point.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we got the college kids coming up here

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Speaker 5: in a bit right now, Martin Weiss is gonna get

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Speaker 5: a settled with trending.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 4: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm.

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Speaker 4: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

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Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app. It's time for the college kids here on

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Speaker 4: the odd come a look at this week's college football

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Speaker 4: through the eyes of the young and inexperience. They swear

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Speaker 4: they know college ball takes it into the job. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: fundamentals are gonna show up, are there? Take SOPHOMOREIC or

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Speaker 4: graduation worth Robin Kelvin with a side bring them on.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Week three edition of College Kids back at it again

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Speaker 6: with none other than media personality and straight up no

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Speaker 6: stradamas in the sports world, none other than Mark Gunnel's Hey,

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Speaker 6: thanks for having the man was so right about the

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Speaker 6: Sean Foster getting fired that he was wrong. I know

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Speaker 6: it was ridiculous, Mark, Man, he's like he's getting fired

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Speaker 6: at the end of the season. Didn't even make it

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Speaker 6: to the first appearance of him back and he's already fired.

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Speaker 6: I didn't think it was gonna happen nes soon.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 7: I feel bad for the brother I mean losen to UNLV,

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Speaker 7: I mean, come on, well, that that'll.

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Speaker 2: Get you fired all the time, right, And what day

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Speaker 2: paid him un l V one point five million to

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Speaker 2: come beat them, to play to beat them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right at home. Yes, not a good look.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Unfortunately unl leaving, he left the team.

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Speaker 1: He ain't gonna be here. He ain't gonna be here.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be here.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys.

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Speaker 6: So once again, Mark's got three very hot takes, all

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Speaker 6: revolving around the Big Ten Football Conference. If the guys

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Speaker 6: liked take, he's graduating. If they don't, it's real sophomore.

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Speaker 6: He don't belong in college. Here we go take number one,

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Speaker 6: Mark says Nebraska. The corn Husters are gonna be number

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Speaker 6: twenty one. Michigan even though they haven't been a ranked

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Speaker 6: team since twenty sixteen, says the Huskers are back.

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Speaker 1: Mark, you got a couple of minutes. Tell us why.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm sorry to Martin Wise. I know

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna like this.

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Speaker 7: Take proble Michigan alumb over there, But I'm telling you,

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Speaker 7: Matt Ruhle has a reputation in year three of turning

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Speaker 7: programs around. Now, the NFL, we can forget about that.

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Speaker 7: But in college year three a Temple they won ten games.

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Speaker 7: Year three of Baylor they won eleven games. This is

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Speaker 7: year three in Nebraska. Like, like you said, they haven't

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Speaker 7: want to beat a rank team since twenty sixteen. I

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Speaker 7: think they get off the snide this week in Lincoln,

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Speaker 7: Nebraska and beat Martin Wise fighting Wolverines.

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Speaker 2: Mark, I'm gonna say this is a sophomore take back

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Speaker 2: to his cool, back to his cool.

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Speaker 1: What Nebraska's all the way? What is convinced you that

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Speaker 1: Michigan's gonna be the one?

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Speaker 3: They might beat the ranked team?

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Speaker 2: But why is it gonna be Michigan And they haven't

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Speaker 2: beaten the ranked team since Moby Dick was a guppy?

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Speaker 1: What do you got?

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Speaker 7: You believe in Bryce Underwood the true freshman. We saw

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Speaker 7: him on the road against Oklahoma and Norman and I

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Speaker 7: actually picked him the win that game. So I was

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Speaker 7: wrong on that one. So I'm not getting stad by

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Speaker 7: them again. Like I said, it's gonna be a rocking atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: I like Dylan Royola at quarterback. I know people think

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Speaker 1: of him.

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Speaker 7: As just a costplayer Patrick mahomes, but he wasn't number

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Speaker 7: one quarter I look like Patrick mahomee. He actually was

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Speaker 7: number one quarterback out of high school, so he has

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Speaker 7: some talent there. He's not just a gimmick. I think

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Speaker 7: they get it done at home.

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Speaker 1: I really do what?

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Speaker 3: Man, that is so sophomore, if you couldn't be any

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Speaker 3: more sophomore. Let me tell you.

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Speaker 5: Bryce Underwood, as you mentioned, is about to go out

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Speaker 5: there and show y'all why there's a Let me tell

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Speaker 5: you something. There's a reason he's a true freshman, because

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Speaker 5: he's a truth. He's the truth, and he's gonna go

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Speaker 5: out there and get this done. You acting like Tommy

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Speaker 5: Fraser walking through that door. This ain't the mid nineties

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Speaker 5: Wood Nebraska was good, man, you know, lost your mind

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Speaker 5: right now?

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Speaker 3: I love it, but I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: That's fair.

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Speaker 6: Okay, we'll see we'll talk soon. All right, who next?

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Speaker 6: Take number two? Sticking in the Big Ten Conference? USC's

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Speaker 6: three and oh what'd you say?

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Speaker 3: Big ten?

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Speaker 1: That just sounds so weird. I know, they're just like

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Speaker 1: the Big Night.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, come on, so I used to the packed twelve

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Speaker 6: USC Big ten? Oh god, USC three and oh open?

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Speaker 6: The season average margin of victory on the year thirty

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Speaker 6: eight and a half points a game. Mark's like, Nah,

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Speaker 6: how do they suck? They're overrated. They're gonna lose at

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Speaker 6: least four to five games this season. Mark tellas why? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is a joke.

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Speaker 7: They played Missouri State, Georgia Southern, and Purdue, and of

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Speaker 7: course you're gonna win those games.

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Speaker 1: But now they're ranked what twenty five?

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Speaker 7: I believe they still gotta play at Illinois versus Michigan,

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Speaker 7: at Notre Dame at Nebraska, and all those games are

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Speaker 7: in a row. By the way, after this week they

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Speaker 7: played Michigan State at home. They probably beat Michigan State

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Speaker 7: at home. But after that they probably lose three of

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Speaker 7: these four games. They will not be ranked here pretty soon.

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Speaker 7: I'm not buying Lincoln Riley. It's just all fluff.

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Speaker 1: You know what this is.

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Speaker 2: Graduation worthy always say congratulates, shut up.

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Speaker 1: Even though I teach them. I'm with you on this.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley, they paid him like he was one big game,

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Speaker 2: but he hadn't one of these big game jet and

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Speaker 2: I think I take Abraham Lincoln over Lincoln Riley right now.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Mark you graduated.

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Speaker 1: I always say, congratulates, shut up.

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Speaker 5: Lincoln Riley is like Trevor Lawrence. Y'all keep telling me

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Speaker 5: he's coming. Hold on, it's code. Just give him somedings

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Speaker 5: coching man. Listen, there, you already looked at the schedule.

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Speaker 5: That middle of the schedule there with Michigan Notre Dame,

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Speaker 5: and then you got Nebraska, and.

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Speaker 3: Then you didn't even mention. A couple of weeks later

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Speaker 3: they'll be playing Oregon.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, they're gonna end up losing a handful of games,

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Speaker 5: and they will have had the Heisman Trophy winner for

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Speaker 5: a couple of years. They had it this season and

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Speaker 5: nothing to show for it in all of this Lincoln

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Speaker 5: Riley era.

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Speaker 6: All right, Take number three college kids, Mark Gunnell Sports

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Speaker 6: Personality Year with the odd couple talking Big Ten football.

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Speaker 6: Last take of the night, The hottest taking the night

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Speaker 6: Oregon quarterback Dante Moore. He's the best quarterback in the

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Speaker 6: Big Ten, even better than that fraud Drew Aller. He's

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Speaker 6: gonna play this weekend at ben State.

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Speaker 1: Now this weekend they played next week.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's coming up.

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Speaker 6: The beat down is coming about the ass Oregon and

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Speaker 6: Penn State. Tell us why I feel bad for you too, man,

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Speaker 6: because he came from your Ucla.

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Speaker 7: So this is more salt in the wound. Saw you

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Speaker 7: Ucla grads out there. Dante Moore started his freshman year Ucla,

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Speaker 7: got benched. He wasn't quite ready, but this is a

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Speaker 7: guy that was a five star prospect. He's in a

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Speaker 7: great system now in Oregon. I love their schedule, so

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Speaker 7: I mean, outside of this Penn State game next week,

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Speaker 7: they could probably run the table. I think they're gonna

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Speaker 7: be Penn State. Actually, Drew Aller, he's fine, but he's

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Speaker 7: not consistent. He makes a great hero. He makes good throws,

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Speaker 7: but then he'll make up. He's like a Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 7: and I hate to say that. I'm a big Trevor

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Speaker 7: Lawrence guy.

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Speaker 1: I used to be.

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Speaker 7: At least I'm on the fence. Now he'll make one

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Speaker 7: flashy throw and then you have two bad throws after that.

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Speaker 7: So I like Dante Moore. I think they win next

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Speaker 7: week at Penn State, and I think he's gonna prove

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Speaker 7: to be the best quarterback in the Big Ten this season.

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Speaker 1: Glad Calvin, you could go first, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: That's sophomore.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't mad at it.

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Speaker 5: You were like, if the passing grade had to be

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Speaker 5: a three point oh, you had a two point nine,

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Speaker 5: You're almost there. I wasn't mad at you, but I

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Speaker 5: want to see a little bit more from him, and

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Speaker 5: also too, you know, these Oregon quarterbacks, they all put

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Speaker 5: up good numbers, but ultimately don't know, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how good they really are. It's almost like the system

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Speaker 5: allows for them to go put up crazy numbers. How

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Speaker 5: some people might feel about Kyle Shanahan and his offenses,

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Speaker 5: So he's really good And at the end, if we

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Speaker 5: did this same question the same take in about six weeks,

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Speaker 5: I might agree with you, But right now, I'm not

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Speaker 5: buying it. Right now, I'm still going with a couple

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Speaker 5: of people ahead of him, as in Drew Allar being

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Speaker 5: number one in the Big ten.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say Sophomooric as well back and act

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Speaker 2: and Kelvin is right.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you.

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Speaker 2: Could say what you're saying right here right now. Could

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Speaker 2: that change with a big win? Oh, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, and some other performances, But right now I'm

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Speaker 2: not buying that More is the best quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll come back after they beat Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Okay, bove that might be the game that might change

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Speaker 2: the way I look at it, But going into that game,

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Speaker 2: I'm not buying it.

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Speaker 1: I can't no way know how mister Mark Donnell's.

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Speaker 5: Rob said he ain't buying it, like it's a two

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Speaker 5: hundred dollars shirt in TJ Max or Ross.

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Speaker 3: He ain't buying it, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna wait till they market down the twenty four

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Speaker 2: to ninety nine and then I might buy it.

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Speaker 5: Hey, don't be trying to act different because marketing there.

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Speaker 5: You know you ain't buying it unless it's twelve ninety

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Speaker 5: nine to nineer.

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Speaker 3: You better stop it.

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Speaker 1: That might be the case. He ain't full of me.

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Speaker 1: He ain't full of me.

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Speaker 3: Know that good stuff.

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Speaker 5: Mark.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you, brother, thank you for coming into it. Appreciate it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: any time, anytime, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 5: That is the college kids, and we'll do it again

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Speaker 5: next week as well. Always a good time with that.

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Speaker 5: We got to talk about speaking to college There's a

678
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Speaker 5: college quarterback that we were sold some wolf tickets on

679
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Speaker 5: and I want my money back.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Nex Sistiya Couple, Rob and Kelvin on The TV Things

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Speaker 5: on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 4: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern,

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Speaker 4: four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: I don't know this one, Rob, what's this one. Toyler Moore,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're right, You're right, yep.

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Speaker 1: But you know what's crazy?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 1: Allen? Do you notice too?

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Speaker 2: In the early one, the first show, when it first started,

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Speaker 2: at the end, he says, she might just make it,

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Speaker 2: and then and then they changed it that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: make it.

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Speaker 1: The first one was she might just make it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, she really gonna make it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then they change it to make

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Speaker 2: it that she was gonna make it. But at first

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Speaker 2: it was like she just might be.

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Speaker 3: They just I don't know things right.

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Speaker 2: We'll see on things single woman on our own in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: But back then Mary Tyler Moore throwing her hat up

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Speaker 2: in the middle. I mean, it's a great It was

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Speaker 2: a great show. Mary Talamore. Of course, she's on the

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Speaker 2: Dick Van Dyke Show as well.

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Speaker 1: She had a couple of yeps.

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Speaker 5: Yep, it is they couple Robert Kelvin on the TV thing.

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Speaker 5: So on Thursday, shut up, Alex, if you miss any

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Speaker 5: of today's show, you're gonna want to catch the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Just search Oye Couple wherever you get your podcasts, and

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Speaker 5: right after today's show, the podcast is gonna be posted.

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Speaker 5: Be sure to follow the pot rated five stars and

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Speaker 5: even provide a review.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Just search the Eye Couple wherever you get.

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Speaker 5: Your podcasts, you'll find today's full show and the best

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Speaker 5: of a version right when we get done with all

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Speaker 5: the yaki yak as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, Roger and the Dolphins are winning seven to

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Speaker 2: seven after one quarter, so they're winning.

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Speaker 3: That's a win for that. That's see, that's the gambler.

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Speaker 1: That's what we are now that weekend.

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Speaker 3: As long as they do.

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Speaker 1: You got twelve minut a half points, so you're you're good.

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Speaker 1: They're winning, they're winning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh Rob g arch Manning.

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Speaker 6: I think we've been sitting on this topic for about

728
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Speaker 6: a week, okay, because arch Manning got booed at his

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Speaker 6: home stadium in Texas.

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Speaker 1: That's how bad he's been. He's been horrible.

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Speaker 5: You know how bad he has to be for you

732
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Speaker 5: to get booed a couple of reasons. One you're in

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Speaker 5: a home team. Two because you are a Manning. You

734
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Speaker 5: know how bad you have to be playing right now?

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Speaker 6: This has been terrible, and so now everybody and their mother,

736
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Speaker 6: anybody who's like a real draft or NFL college football

737
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Speaker 6: analyst trying to figure out what's wrong with Arch Like

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Speaker 6: he is the Heisman front runner, the odds on number

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Speaker 6: one pick, and he has just been flat out Charles Barkley.

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Speaker 1: Durable, He's been durable, terrible and really bad.

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Speaker 6: Uh Todd McShay said on his latest column that when

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Speaker 6: he watches Arch Manning play, it's like quote, watching a

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Speaker 6: frustrated golfer swing or tracking the beats of a broken metronome,

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Speaker 6: all of that, rather than to just say that he

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Speaker 6: hasn't played well.

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Speaker 1: Why can't he just not play well?

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Speaker 2: It's always like something else, and he's a frustrated golfer.

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Speaker 1: You we know he's on the PGA Tour, but he's

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Speaker 1: just frustrated right now.

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Speaker 2: No, how about he hasn't lived up to the expectations

751
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: that people had him as the best quarterback and he's

752
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Speaker 2: gonna go there, it's gonna come out and go to

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Speaker 2: the NFL and this and that, and it's the Arch

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Speaker 2: Manning sweet steaks and Jerry Jones wants him and you

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Speaker 2: know on all this other stuff.

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Speaker 1: How about just that he hasn't played well enough so far.

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Speaker 5: See, that's because you're not a DJ rob. You don't

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Speaker 5: get the metro Dome to the sinks of the beasts

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Speaker 5: per minute. You're not really sticking with.

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Speaker 3: It's boom boom, boom boom. Man. Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 3: Here's the issue with Arch number one.

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Speaker 5: We were sold he's always a heisman already, he's gonna

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Speaker 5: be the number one pick already.

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Speaker 3: It's easy.

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Speaker 5: We're like, all right, Dan, we never really we didn't

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Speaker 5: really get to see him last year, but okay, all right.

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Speaker 5: Maybe here's been the issue Rob for a couple of

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Speaker 5: things from me. When you watch him, it's not like, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe his receips aren't there for him. They're

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Speaker 5: still just trying to get some things going. These are

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Speaker 5: remedial issues that are that are happening. We're talking about

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Speaker 5: his feet, footwork not being great, his feet not being

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Speaker 5: in the right places. We're talking about when you go

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Speaker 5: to the manning camps, and that's what I was about

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Speaker 5: to say. We're talking about his arm angles being off,

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Speaker 5: missing deep balls, missing guys across the field, throwing turnovers

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Speaker 5: in the red zone against much lesser than schools. And

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Speaker 5: that's part of the issue because we thought, hey, if

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Speaker 5: nothing else, his mechanics will be right based off with

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Speaker 5: his grandfather and his two uncles are also. He's having

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Speaker 5: issues when he's at Texas when he has everything at

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Speaker 5: his disposal, right, he has from the practice facilities, from

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Speaker 5: the best players. Steve Sarkisian is supposed to be this

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Speaker 5: offensive guru. So it's not like he's doing it at

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Speaker 5: Old Min Family Live Mannings right. He's not doing this

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Speaker 5: where Eli was at Old Miss trying to make it happen.

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Speaker 5: He's doing this at Texas where this is supposed to

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Speaker 5: be everything given there, and it's he's not his first season.

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Speaker 5: He's not a true freshman like Bryce Underwood. He got

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Speaker 5: some chances to play a handful of games last year.

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Speaker 5: Come in here there, you would think all right got

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Speaker 5: his feet under him. He should be in a good situation.

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Speaker 5: And lastly, Rob g and I were talking, and the

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Speaker 5: more you watch him, you look at that arm, you

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Speaker 5: start to question is he okay?

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Speaker 3: Is or something to it? Is he hurt?

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Speaker 5: But he's been underwhelming. And I said this when we

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Speaker 5: were you were on vac I said, he's absolutely gonna

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Speaker 5: come back next year, even if he were to, you know,

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Speaker 5: have a really good year. I said he was gonna

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Speaker 5: come back because he's not in a rush nil money.

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Speaker 3: He's got money. He's fine. And also him and his.

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Speaker 5: Family arene all about legacy and the name, and I

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Speaker 5: thought he would come back.

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Speaker 3: He has to come back now, Rob. It ain't no

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Speaker 3: doubt about it. I don't give it.

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Speaker 5: Dang.

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Speaker 3: If he ends up winning eight, nine, ten in a row,

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Speaker 3: he has to come back now.

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Speaker 2: If he plays well and lights it up the last

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Speaker 2: eight or nine weeks, I don't think he's coming back.

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Speaker 3: What he absolutely is coming up, I said.

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Speaker 1: If he plays really well, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't give it.

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Speaker 5: If he goes to know and and throws three hundred

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Speaker 5: yards a game, he's coming back next year. I thought

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Speaker 5: he was coming back before the season started. I'm for

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Speaker 5: sure he's coming back now.

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Speaker 2: Rob, Yeah, I'm not so sure. I mean, obviously based

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Speaker 2: off of the early play. Sure, because it hasn't been crisp.

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Speaker 2: But it hasn't been what people expected. He's the greatest

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Speaker 2: prospect since Andrew Luck. We heard all the press clippings

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Speaker 2: and all the college the NFL analysts who are all

824
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Speaker 2: singing his praises and how good he is and what

825
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: they expect and all that kind of stuff, and it

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Speaker 2: hasn't panned out, you know, not not yet at least,

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Speaker 2: and it doesn't mean everybody's not the same.

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Speaker 1: Some people will late Bloomers. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that his last name helps, but he's gotta he's

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Speaker 2: gotta make it happen.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's all let lined up for him. But

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean that you get there.

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Speaker 3: No, so, my you were gone.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know if you got a chance to hear,

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Speaker 5: but I was telling Rogie, I absolutely believe he's coming back.

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Speaker 3: Even if he.

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Speaker 5: Would have said anson winning a Heisman and a national

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Speaker 5: championship all at once, I absolutely believe he was coming

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Speaker 5: back anyway. I just don't think he's in a rush.

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Speaker 5: I don't think he needs you know, I gotta get

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Speaker 5: out of here. I gotta get my mama a house.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have to leave.

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Speaker 1: Matt Liner didn't come out, and it was a mistake.

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Speaker 2: I just don't when you're ready to go, all you

845
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: do is when you don't is give more people reason

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Speaker 2: to pick your game apart. And the other part is,

847
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: which is a part of football, is that you could

848
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: wind up getting hurt, and so that's what you don't

849
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 2: want to play another If you've done all that stuff,

850
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: what would be your reason of coming back, so you

851
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 2: could break a collar bone, so you could break an arm,

852
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: so you could break a leg.

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Speaker 1: I'm serious.

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Speaker 2: Like, if my advice to anybody who is going to

855
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Speaker 2: be if he played that well, is going to be

856
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Speaker 2: the number one pick. Whenever you're the number one pick,

857
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Speaker 2: you should take that. It's just you can't be higher

858
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Speaker 2: than number one. He ain't gonna be the number one

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Speaker 2: pick now, No, no, I hear you. Even if he wasn't,

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Speaker 2: I think he's different. King cat Liner went from one

861
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Speaker 2: to ten, and his career path and what happened to

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Speaker 2: him might have changed had he been the number one pick,

863
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and then went to a

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Speaker 2: different organization and people didn't look a little different at

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Speaker 2: him because they were like, wait a minute, this guy

866
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Speaker 2: doesn't want to play in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Who wants to go back to college. You know, when

868
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Speaker 1: you have a situation, we have a chance to.

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Speaker 3: Be his best life.

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Speaker 5: He was the NFL team boy, NFL's King in America, Well, Dagga,

871
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Speaker 5: Them USC teams were the NFL teams of La Boy.

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Speaker 3: He was living.

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Speaker 1: But if he could do it all over again, he

874
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Speaker 1: changed his mind.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, he might have been them LA years,

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Speaker 5: the mid two thousands, pre social media. That boy was

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Speaker 5: living for sure. He got stuff. Thank god we didn't

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Speaker 5: have camera phones back then.