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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast plays the game of Bros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I am joined by

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Speaker 1: Room Failed with here Rose, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and

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Speaker 1: Greg Rosatal. What's up boys, Hey Dan Mark, Welcome back, baby.

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Speaker 1: Good to be here. Mostly mostly I just trying to

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Speaker 1: turn this week into sort of a second week of vacation.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying second in a row. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought, I also thought about the accusations that were

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Speaker 1: thrown at me before. And I'll take as much vacation

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Speaker 1: as I want. And I have actually have a lot

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Speaker 1: more days stayed up, I stored up. I may just

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Speaker 1: take them all to see you on September five or eight,

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Speaker 1: wherever it is on that on that point, any you

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Speaker 1: have you heard back from any of your sparrows. I did.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm impressed I did not. There was no heat

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Speaker 1: seeking negativity from you guys. From what I know about

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Speaker 1: your sparrows. Let you down. They could be lying to me.

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Speaker 1: Bless were there. I don't know if any were. What

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Speaker 1: went on on your little so Gerne to the east coast,

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Speaker 1: it's too long to tell it was great. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like gotten a rental card, drove to like four

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Speaker 1: or five states, salt tons of old friends, and did

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Speaker 1: not think about the workplace for one second the entire time.

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Speaker 1: I had to ask Mark this morning at the commissary,

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Speaker 1: dance with the devil? At all? I translate, what does

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Speaker 1: every mean? Dance with the devil? It could mean a

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Speaker 1: lot of things. No, I did not. I think I was.

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Speaker 1: I was pretty well behaved, actually almost stunned by my issues.

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Speaker 1: You had to drive along. That was part of the

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Speaker 1: issue you kept having across state lines. I kept a

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Speaker 1: lid on it for the most speaking of the money tag, though, Mark,

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Speaker 1: I know we were all salarying on Game of Thrones

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Speaker 1: at the beginning of this season. You gotta stick with

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Speaker 1: it till the finale because the last two episodes made

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Speaker 1: up for putting me to sleep for two months. I

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Speaker 1: saw the one two weeks ago, not this. It was great.

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Speaker 1: We have a we've tried to what we're trying to

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Speaker 1: do here at the round the NFL podcast is be

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Speaker 1: the only entity or part of the NFL digital digital

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Speaker 1: experience that does not talk about Game of Thrones. Because

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Speaker 1: you don't have to talk about Game of Thrones, like

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Speaker 1: a reference in pass passing like West just made. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: but we're not gonna have a segment like who's the

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Speaker 1: real Queen of wester Rose? Carson Palmer? What's enough of

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Speaker 1: this nonsense? That's good? Show running town? Uh, today's show

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Speaker 1: that's fired? Is it good? It wasn't really it just

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Speaker 1: you know enough? Uh, solid show like it pre show grade.

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Speaker 1: But that's it. Plus we are going to talk about

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Speaker 1: uh Patrick Peterson. Now we're not just gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, arguably the best cornerback and football will be

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Speaker 1: in this studio and we will talk to him about

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Speaker 1: all or nothing. The new Amazon series which Handsome Hank

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Speaker 1: the Notorious DP is assigned me to write episode recaps

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Speaker 1: of all eight of the episodes that are dropping at

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Speaker 1: midnight on Friday. So that's that's my work week for

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Speaker 1: the most part. But I'm enjoying as far as assignments

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Speaker 1: go at work. It's better than you know, taking tolls

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Speaker 1: at the bridge or something. Well, you must be liking

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Speaker 1: because you keep on on our I am uh platform.

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Speaker 1: You keep telling us about scenes that stand out as

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Speaker 1: it sounds like they knocked it out of the park. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I doubt many of the people that you're big fan

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Speaker 1: listening to you, uh talk about watching television shows and

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Speaker 1: reviewing them as some sort of backbreaking labor. Well, I

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Speaker 1: people from Pearl River they root for me. Uh. They said, oh,

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Speaker 1: it was too late like me. And I'm just a

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite games. Yes, what's more likely is

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Speaker 1: what's up? But nothing much. I for one, missed Mark

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Speaker 1: Mark is a great um onlooker and supporter of the Shield,

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Speaker 1: So West, I think we're starting to click and put

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Speaker 1: gotta close. We've got four games left. Playoffs are in

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Speaker 1: I'll come to a game. Let's go, let's make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: the old man Buddy It. I think the quintessential Buddy

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Speaker 1: the great book Bringing the Heat by Mark Bowden, who's

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Speaker 1: way too seriously. I could totally see how sports nerds,

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Speaker 1: which you know we all are and and the ways,

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Speaker 1: could really embrace something like this. It was franchise mode

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Speaker 1: essentially right of Madden, not that Madden Player, but before

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Speaker 1: before that happened, and like that's I mean, I didn't

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Speaker 1: know about it as a kid, I wasn't as into

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Speaker 1: I wasn't that deep into football that I guess it

435
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Speaker 1: I came across it. I did. I did fantasy baseball

436
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Speaker 1: at a very young age, called this thing called robot

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Speaker 1: Baseball where you would send in, you know, pick your

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Speaker 1: plays and stuff like that. But this this to me,

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Speaker 1: Like if I I see this, I know I would

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Speaker 1: have I would have absolutely loved every second of it.

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Speaker 1: And just the strategy that you need to know. You

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Speaker 1: need to know the guards, you need to know plays,

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Speaker 1: you need to know what plays work against, what defenses,

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Speaker 1: you need to know how to move players around. Like,

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Speaker 1: it's more. It is more than just picking which wide

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Speaker 1: receivers are gonna, uh get yards and touchdowns. I think

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Speaker 1: if you love football, it's it's a thing that's gonna

448
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Speaker 1: only make you love it more. Yeah, I like I

449
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Speaker 1: bought so I bought the updated computer game, and I

450
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Speaker 1: had this little backhouse in our yard and I was

451
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Speaker 1: going back to are trying to just learn how it's

452
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Speaker 1: so much more complex than the version I played back

453
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Speaker 1: in the late eighties. And I mean, I'm playing the

454
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Speaker 1: computer in it is kicking my butt. I play that.

455
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Speaker 1: I opened up the piece talking about trying taking the

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Speaker 1: Bengals defense and playing Tom Brady and the Patriots and

457
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Speaker 1: they're just rolling up and down the field on me.

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Speaker 1: And when I talked to some of these guys who

459
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Speaker 1: played for a long time, they're like, oh, you got

460
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Speaker 1: a lot to learn. Like like, I happy to sit

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Speaker 1: down and teach you. But you can't just pick. You

462
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Speaker 1: have to move. You move players around, move safeties around,

463
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Speaker 1: and if you don't, you're gonna get waxed. And I

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Speaker 1: mean it was frustrated. I'm pounding the table back there,

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Speaker 1: and my wife Simons is probably very concerned in general

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Speaker 1: that the odd strata matic. It's right, you have much

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Speaker 1: to learn, young man. No, Actually, I honestly, the two

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Speaker 1: two of them, they were they were so nice. The

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Speaker 1: people that that play this and their their dads, their

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Speaker 1: fathers there there, they have jobs, they're normal guys. They

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Speaker 1: they though basically, uh, they listened this show. They absorbed

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Speaker 1: every bit of football information they can to try to

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Speaker 1: get better at this. It's it's it's incredible how much

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Speaker 1: time they put in the great piece Mark. Everyone really

475
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Speaker 1: needs to read it. And I know we're not wrapping

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Speaker 1: up or anybody just want to say that everyone needs

477
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Speaker 1: to go check this out. If you like this podcast,

478
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Speaker 1: you're gonna like the piece. The line that jumped out

479
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Speaker 1: to me was the thought of taking complete control of

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Speaker 1: the Browns and that's why Greg said, like franchise mode.

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Speaker 1: I remember my sports obsession started, and we've talked about this.

482
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Speaker 1: My dad just told me one day. I was talking

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Speaker 1: about the Reds need to trade for a leadoff hitter,

484
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Speaker 1: and he said, why don't you sit down and find

485
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Speaker 1: a way where they could trade for Ricky Henderson? And

486
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Speaker 1: that was like to me, the startup, I'm taking control

487
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Speaker 1: of the Reds now and I totally get that. That's it.

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Speaker 1: Starts an obsession and I haven't been the same since. Yes, Yes,

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com slash strat o matic cessler, high octane banger.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you check it out. Alright, very special guest

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Speaker 1: here in the studio. Five time pro bowler, three time

492
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Speaker 1: first team All Pro. That's when you know you're a

493
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Speaker 1: real stud first team pro star of the Arizona Cardinals

494
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Speaker 1: cornerback Patrick Peterson. Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. Patrick,

495
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Where do you rank in

496
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Speaker 1: terms of greatest career achievements? Being in the studio right now?

497
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I don't know the roster

498
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Speaker 1: you guys brought it. How about great career achievements arriving

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Speaker 1: here on the team plane driven by piloted by your owners.

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Speaker 1: That a that a true story. We have a picture

501
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Speaker 1: we're gonna show of the plane, four of the Cardinals

502
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Speaker 1: coming in here and Michael Bidwell, the team president owner, piloting.

503
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Speaker 1: It was a pleasure. It was a pleasure for the

504
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Speaker 1: owner to to to take out the time of the

505
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Speaker 1: day and files up here to the NFL network. It

506
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Speaker 1: was a bucket list for sure. First of all, it's

507
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Speaker 1: like a move that you would see on ballers, right like.

508
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Speaker 1: Second of all, a few things about this, so it's

509
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Speaker 1: the ballers thing, like the rock would be involved, you

510
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Speaker 1: would think. And then second of all, like what a man,

511
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Speaker 1: a masculine man Michael Bidwell is because he could own

512
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Speaker 1: a team and fly plane. Third of all, are you

513
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: in a tough spot? Patrick there? Because oh it's cool

514
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: that the owners fly on the plane, but you know,

515
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Speaker 1: can't really fly a plane. Like what are you gonna say?

516
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Speaker 1: You know? You can't say, you know, I kind of

517
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Speaker 1: I kind of filed on his um um on his

518
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Speaker 1: on his reference when he said, uh, they only been flandins.

519
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Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old, so I kind of felt okay.

520
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Speaker 1: So if he would have been like, I've only been

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Speaker 1: flying since you know, like two thousand and twelve, but

522
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Speaker 1: you know it would be four years. But he better

523
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Speaker 1: be confident because he's got you, he's got class cam boys,

524
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: he's got David Johnson and as well. So that's the

525
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Speaker 1: most Yes, Okay, let's let's get into this. All or nothing,

526
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: uh debuting on Amazon Prime on July one, multipart mini

527
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: series documentary whatever you want to call it, and uh,

528
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: you know Patrick obviously um has has a big part

529
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Speaker 1: in this as it's documenting the entire season. Like My

530
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: Dream Team for Years was a show that was you

531
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Speaker 1: took the Hard Knocks model and drew it out over

532
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: an entire season. But your coach, Bruce arians said that

533
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Speaker 1: he doesn't like Hard Knocks. He thinks it's too much

534
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: like playing up for the cameras and getting into the

535
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Speaker 1: roster cuts and like a soap opera. But this is

536
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Speaker 1: a different thing. How is this different from Hard Knocks?

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Speaker 1: If you watched that show before, Um, I have watched

538
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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks before, but you know, over the last couple

539
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: of years of kind of fell away from him because

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00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: it always comes out, you know, in the middle of

541
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Speaker 1: camp and I'm not a very good guy tech savvy

542
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: of recording and go back home and watching himself. Um.

543
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Speaker 1: But this is different because obviously, like you said, it's

544
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Speaker 1: through the course of a season, you know, and at

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Speaker 1: times you kind of forget that those cameras are there,

546
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: and and it it was it was real genuine emotions. Um.

547
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Speaker 1: You can see the humor or the football team, you know,

548
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: the character that we had, you know, that adversity that

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Speaker 1: we had at versities that we had to go through,

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Speaker 1: you know, practicing in West Virginia, getting ready for the

551
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still, the um, the ups and downs of games.

552
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Speaker 1: It's just I think it was a brilliant, brilliant idea

553
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: and like you said, that was something I always wanted

554
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: to see too. How how is it like how what

555
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: these teams do Monday through Sunday to get ready for

556
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: a game, how they travel and it's it's definitely definitely

557
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Speaker 1: a great um look for the NFL fans. It's unprecedented,

558
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Speaker 1: Like there's never been a team that was documented all

559
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Speaker 1: season long where there was there ever a time during

560
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Speaker 1: the season when there was some adversity or if maybe

561
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Speaker 1: you had a bad game, not that you have bad games,

562
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Speaker 1: but where you were like, damn, get these cameras out

563
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Speaker 1: of my face. We're trying to do something here. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, it was times that we didn't we didn't

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Speaker 1: feel or it wasn't a sense of urgency that the

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Speaker 1: cameras were around us, you know. So it was it

567
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: was always real because you know, they we they had

568
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Speaker 1: so many hidden cameras so that we kind of felt

569
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Speaker 1: at ease because you know, you wasn't always in front

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Speaker 1: of a camera seven of that day. But um, it

571
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Speaker 1: was a pretty cool project. Big brother watching though, say

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Speaker 1: that would spook me a little bit. I think we

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Speaker 1: have a clip of you actually from the show right then.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to take a look at some of you

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Speaker 1: and your your boys. Let's let's take these guys are

576
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Speaker 1: talking about. Um, it's my Rose RoCE. Um. I drove

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Speaker 1: it every day to work last ye work. It was

578
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Speaker 1: a Rolls Royce flashy. You know you're tight when you

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Speaker 1: can talk about each other and you're still cool. Rolls Royce,

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Speaker 1: is that? What is it? What? What's the move with

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Speaker 1: the Rolls Royce is that's sending a message when he

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Speaker 1: pulled up flashy, that's a better question. I guess that's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, that's the first time I

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Speaker 1: ever heard um, but I guess humble flashy is from

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Speaker 1: Gerard point of view, I probably have to say without

586
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Speaker 1: the rims um still pulling up in like uh in

587
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: sports where okay, in the suiting time and all that stuff.

588
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: So also it's like, I think I get it because

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00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: it's that's a classy car. That is almost like the

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Speaker 1: classiest car in the world. So you know, I'm sure

591
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Speaker 1: there're guys that pull up in the Lamborghinis and the Ferraris,

592
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Speaker 1: and that's that's not humble flash that's just flash. That

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Speaker 1: makes sense. You kind of humble flashing right now. You

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Speaker 1: know you're gonna you're gonna be on television today and here,

595
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: but you're just nice. But you're not like, yeah, you're

596
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Speaker 1: not pointing it out that you make way more money

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Speaker 1: than all of us. Patrick, your Cardinals were the most

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Speaker 1: fun team in the league to watch last year. Whenever

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00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: I went to game pass, first game I pull up

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Speaker 1: as the Cardinals on Sunday night. And part of that

601
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: is because you and tire Matthew. It's rare that you

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Speaker 1: have two defensive Player of the Year candidates on the

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Speaker 1: same team. Which one of you is more valuable? Um? Wow,

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Speaker 1: last drops a bomb in a big spot. Man, I

605
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: thought this was about all of them whatever, talking about

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Speaker 1: who's more value? Um, I mean, that's a tough question

607
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Speaker 1: because I mean, both of us means so much for

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Speaker 1: the defense. You know, if it's not me going on

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00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: the team's opposing number one receiver, is not him putting it,

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00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: putting him in different situations far as blixing covering that

611
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Speaker 1: number two slide or the number two threat on the

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00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: um on the on the opposing team as well. But

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Speaker 1: you know, both of us were great access access to

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Speaker 1: the team and we want to continue doing our parts

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00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: to the best of our ability to hopefully get us

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Speaker 1: over the top one day. What does he do that

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Speaker 1: kind of makes you say wow, you know when he

618
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Speaker 1: when he came on the team, like, what does he

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Speaker 1: do that? And always right? And you know, playing with

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Speaker 1: him in college, so I kind of saw those flashes.

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Speaker 1: But when he got got into the NFL, into this

622
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Speaker 1: stage and on this level, his ability to blitz, his

623
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Speaker 1: ability to to to to do a great job of

624
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Speaker 1: maneuvering his body in the perfect position for some strange

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Speaker 1: high reason. Um, and the way he's able to to

626
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Speaker 1: to turn and flip his hips as quickly as he

627
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Speaker 1: is in his ball skills. I believe um, his ball

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Speaker 1: skills are probably one of the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: And finally, before we let you go, Patrick, you know

630
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Speaker 1: you're very good with Twitter beasts. Quarterbacks always beating and

631
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Speaker 1: you know the people we love the cornerback beefing. You

632
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: and Richard Sherman have gotten after it. You and Josh

633
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: Norman had some epic battles. H when's the next one?

634
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Speaker 1: I feel like we're a little over do time. Who's next?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't I don't. I don't

636
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Speaker 1: get into the I try not to get into the beast.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just I think it's all fun. I

638
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: think it's all fun. There is something about the cornerback

639
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Speaker 1: position though that I don't know why. You don't really

640
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Speaker 1: hear as much like tight end saying I'm the best

641
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: tight end. But there is there is something about cornerbacks

642
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: and it and this started well before you were ever

643
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: in the league. Of the different cornerbacks kind of comparing

644
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: each other, comparing themselves to each other and say, no,

645
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm the best right now, I'm number one. Is there

646
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: something like about the position that you're inherently competitive with

647
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: all those other guys? Um probably have to say the

648
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: because you know, now the NFL is is turning in

649
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: turning into that passing lead. So you know, you know,

650
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: most teams you have marquee receivers, you know, and now

651
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: this day and age of football, you need to have

652
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: one or two marquee defensive backs or cornerbacks and place

653
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: it into play. My position. You have to be confident.

654
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean, you always have to carry a certain swag

655
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: you know about yourself and nothing. That's what it's all about.

656
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: Just a bunch of great guys, a bunch of a

657
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: bunch of great athletes, you know, fighting and jawing for

658
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: that number one spot. Josh Norvin. All right, So Patrick Peterson,

659
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: he's got stuff to do. He's a busy man about

660
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: time town of Los Angeles, and he's gonna get back

661
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: on the jet and you fully trust the owner to

662
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: get your home. So everything's working out, and it's great

663
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: to have Patrick Peterson here with us again. Check him

664
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Speaker 1: out on all or nothing on Amazon Prime and then

665
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: watch him. Of course, the team of around the NFL

666
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: last year, the Arizona Cardinals. We love watching the Cards.

667
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: We look forward to watching you again in oh Man.

668
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: We're looking forward to putting on another great show as well,

669
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 1: and and getting to the big game and winning it hopefully.

670
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: And there is Patrick Peterson West. You really put him

671
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: on the spot there. I don't blame him for how

672
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: do we treat That's how we treat our guests. Hey, look,

673
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: I want some answers, but it's it's late June. He

674
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: doesn't want to think about football. I'm fine with that.

675
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. I like that he was comfortable

676
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: when I pointed out how much more money he made

677
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: that all of us. Some things you just you can

678
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: own and not even feel weird about it. All right,

679
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: So thank you to Patrick Peterson before we go, Yes,

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00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: it sounded to play one of our favorite games in

681
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: the world, more Likely. Yes, this is a game whereby

682
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: each of us take turns laying at two different plausible scenarios,

683
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,919
Speaker 1: and the rest of the group decides which of those

684
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: options are more likely. Uh. Sometimes we we put our

685
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: theme on it. Uh this time, take it anywhere you want, Mark,

686
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: get us gone? All right? What is more likely? Number one?

687
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: With the football gods finally smile on the Ryan twins

688
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: with their beloved father gone, Rex and Rob turned the

689
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Bills into a team that Buddy Ryan would

690
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: be proud of. A terrorizing Reggie Ragland led defense to

691
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: go with an offense led by low paid, forgotten quarterback

692
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Slow out of the gate, the Bills finally

693
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: awakened to drop an atomic bomb on Jimmy Garoppolo and

694
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: the holier than now Patriots in week before. From there,

695
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo churns out one white knuckled victory after the next,

696
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: setting up a week seventeen rematch with the New York

697
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: Jets for the a f c's final wild card spot.

698
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: Sorry Dan, but in a New York's a massacre, the

699
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: Ryan's unleicia defense that sacks Gang Green naif Christian Hackenburg

700
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: a whopping nine times. It's only the start, as Buffalo

701
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: goes on to shred Denver and Pittsburgh before dropping New

702
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: England thirty three in the a f C Championship after

703
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: beating the Packers in Super Bowl fifty one. Rex and

704
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Rob are both carried off the field Allah Bears eighty

705
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: five by their play airs and what talking heads called

706
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: the greatest Super Bowl story of all time. So not plausible,

707
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: but go ahead, that's okay. There's another one. Yes, that's

708
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: how this game operates. Or number two. After conquering the

709
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: world of pro football writing, Chris Westling trades in his

710
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: romance with the NFL for his newfound obsession with garden

711
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: Gnomes of all shapes and sizes. Returning to Tybee Island, Westvilles,

712
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: his small seaside bungalow with hundreds upon hundreds of Gnome collectibles.

713
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: A writer at heart, West can't help but jump online

714
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: and become a core contributor to Gnomes we know, the

715
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: pre eminent online landing spot for Gnome knickknacks fan fiction

716
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: and lore. West's weekly column Naughty Gnome or Nice catches

717
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: fire inside the sub genre, turning West into a folk

718
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: hero within Gnome enthusiast circles. How do we follow that? Well,

719
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: we have to answer the question first, what's more to

720
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: just end the show? Um? West, I'm gonna I'll jump you.

721
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: Go ahead, West, he seems like you want to talk.

722
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: I want to see what you guys said, well, well, yeah,

723
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: it was strange right after dance as plausible, Um for

724
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: these two scenarios because West loves him some football. He's

725
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: still that same kid that was playing strata matic. He's

726
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: not giving up the gnomes. I think you know this

727
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: is really a shot at the Bills, that these two

728
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: scenarios would be somehow, Even that the Bills winning the

729
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl would be the same as West becoming the

730
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: proprietor of gnomes are used. It's a it's a long

731
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: shot at Rex Ryan essentially, uh, and I'm not gonna

732
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: take that bait. The Bills are much more likely. This

733
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: is a talented team. It wouldn't be that surprising if

734
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs, and once you make the playoffs,

735
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: you know you always have a chance it would be

736
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: a surprising super Bowl team. But I don't think it'd

737
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: be a prising playoff team. The Bills are more likely. Um.

738
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: I find it amusing Mark, you continue to conflate what's

739
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: more likely with qualis to Fantasia. I have no idea

740
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: what either game. They are two very different games, but

741
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: they always end up qualis to Fantasia. Um, absolutely true, Dad, Dad,

742
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: Listen with some distaste, they're not distaste, but you know

743
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: we're playing two different games here. Uh. The more likely

744
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: scenario though West is not a Nome guy. They're just

745
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: not a norm guy. Well not yet. Why do you

746
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: keep trying to put us out into different careers. You

747
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: had me writing a tennis blog, me and West writing

748
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: a post war blog. There's a lot of Well this

749
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: is also I said after he conquered the world of

750
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: pro football writing, so he had done everything someone could do.

751
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: I um, it's time for me to weigh because you

752
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: guys are being way too rough. But let me let

753
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: me answer the question. Uh yeah, West is not a

754
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: Nome guy. West will do a lot of fun things

755
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: of his post football life, but collecting garden accessories is

756
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: not one of them. So the Bills winning the Super

757
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 1: Bowl would probably be more likely, but neither is likely

758
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: at all or plausible. The answer is b whoa too,

759
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: He's got a good inside source. I don't want to

760
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: write football the rest of my life. At some point

761
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: that's not going to be what my passion is. But

762
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: I have had a latent greed thumb for over a decade. Now. Wow,

763
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: if here we go, if I had my own place,

764
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: I would be a gardener. I feel like I'm ready.

765
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I'm he's reciting something off his bumble profile. I would

766
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: be a pretty devoted guy. I like the idea of

767
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: working the earth. I like the idea of yielding things

768
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: that you've put into the ground yourself. I like a

769
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: self sustaining economy. Save it for farmers only. Case I

770
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: don't know if I could get into the gnomes, but

771
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: I think you like, if you're already gardening, that could

772
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: become the next level. Right, sure, I think so too.

773
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 1: Case closed, I would go be I don't think the

774
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 1: Bills are winning the super Bowl. But pardon, I'm learning

775
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: a lot about West here. There is a difference of

776
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: becoming a gardener and becoming a crazy person that collects

777
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: g nomes. True, that's where I couldn't follow that you

778
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: would do that. I'm not particularly attached to nomes. I

779
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: could see like, uh, you know, the godfather Vito Corleone

780
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: in the tomato patch with the young grandson one day.

781
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: Um as I'm explaining naughty nome or nice Alright, West,

782
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm sad you don't you know you're not you don't

783
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: want to write football forever? Yeah? We grow, Greg, we grow,

784
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: and I haven't grown since I was like twelve. That

785
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: was sad. All right, you're up west. What's more likely?

786
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: Dan's son Jack ultimately a bands the abandons the Jets

787
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: to root for the Rams. Greg's son Walker ultimately abandons

788
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: football for tennis. Who knows he's even on top of

789
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: it the beginning with that, okay, or one of Mark's sons,

790
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: Luca Colton abandoned the Browns for the resurrection of the

791
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: United States Space Program in the future. Mm hmm is

792
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: the space program defunct? Well, NASA's shell right now, it's

793
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: it's span space. You're saying it would be revived. We

794
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: become what it what it was thought us. Right, you

795
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: just offended all of our NASA listeners. But that's fine.

796
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: Well they agree, Um wow, I I'm gonna go, Well,

797
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 1: it's specific here. I'm gonna go with Jack uh ditching

798
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: the Jets for the ramp something negative about the Jets. No,

799
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: I think we've hit our limit for the show, or

800
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: I should I think all three. All three are pretty plausible.

801
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: The NASA thing is so specific that because there's there's

802
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: no reason for Luke and Colton to be a Browns fan.

803
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: If they are Browns are you gonna make them a

804
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: Browns fan. You live in Los Angeles and you grew

805
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,919
Speaker 1: up in Connecticut and the Browns and the Browns. Yeah,

806
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: it's that's a fair one. So you never know. So

807
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: I don't think, but I don't, But I think all

808
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: of our sons, you know, it's very possible they could

809
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: be Rams fans if we lived here a long time.

810
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: My son will be a Jets fan. I already know

811
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: he adores me. He's gonna he's not gonna want to

812
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: let his old man down, and he's gonna use it

813
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: as a bonding exercise. That's fair that maybe of the

814
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: three of us, I think you're gonna push your son

815
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: the most to make sure he's a fan of that team,

816
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: probably like who you want. The danger though is and

817
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: maybe that's why I got to join West in the garden.

818
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 1: Get a green green thumb on is if I'm going

819
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: to be in some you know, goddamn news room when

820
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: I'm forty four and not watching the Jets on my couch,

821
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: and then Jack's left his own devices and all his

822
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: buddies are, you know, have their Todd Gurley Hall of

823
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: Fame speech is ready, you know, Then it gets dangerous

824
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: when when Luke and Colton we're young, I'd come home

825
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: and on a Sunday night and they were in San

826
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners pajamas because my wife is a fan

827
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: of that team. So you know, the divisiveness has already

828
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: been put into play. And Colton actually asked me yesterday,

829
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: he said, do you love football? And I think he

830
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: was seeing it as an either or, like someone can

831
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: only love one things. I said, no, I love you,

832
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: and I also love space exploration. So I do not

833
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: think that Jets will lose Jack as a fan. Uh Tennis,

834
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: that's possible, but Greg is a football man to the end.

835
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: So I'm actually gonna say that I could see Luke

836
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: and Colton not being a Browns fan and suing the

837
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: space industry because it was in line with their current

838
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: hobbies as is. I could see them potentially going down

839
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 1: a career path together, maybe so and you know, hopefully lucrative.

840
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: I think I think the spaceman makes it money. NASA's

841
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: they're doing well. That not the company, But if you're

842
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: working for NASA, those aren't easy jobs to get. NASA

843
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: is like a shell organization right now, they are they

844
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: are doing very little top level people at NASA. They're

845
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: making some cash. Well they are well great um entertaining

846
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: imaginative work by kissing cousins. I never thought I would

847
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: say this, but I gotta. I gotta go down to

848
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: the lab and get my scientists hat on. Talk a

849
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: little football here, guys, it's nice down here, A little drafty.

850
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: What's more likely Ryan's Mannehill? What's that in the lamb?

851
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why the phones always ringing? What's more likely?

852
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill finally reaches his potential, goes full Dalton and

853
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: is a top twelve quarterback in or rock Osswilder lives

854
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: up to the contract, drops a four thousand nineties slash

855
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: line that nineties is passer rating and tells his hat

856
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: four thousand yards, twenty eight touchdowns ninety passer and tells

857
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: his haters to suck it. Well, we gotta break this down.

858
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: Living up to it, I think, yeah, those numbers would

859
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: certainly live up to it. And those aren't crazy numbers.

860
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,720
Speaker 1: Uh heck. I think Ryan Tannehill might have had pretty

861
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: close to those numbers last year. But I am going

862
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: to say it's more likely that Ryan Tannehill h rises

863
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: to be a top twelve quarterback because to me, he

864
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: is a guy who is the product of his surroundings.

865
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: He's a pretty good quarterback, not a great quarterback, but

866
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,959
Speaker 1: for a guy that gets criticized a lot. Here's here's

867
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: what he had last year yards, twenty four touchdowns, twelve interceptions,

868
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: very similar stats the year before. He hasn't been bad,

869
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: and I like the team around him. I don't love

870
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: Tannehill at this point, but he's got some skills. I

871
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: like Gaice, I like Landry Parker Carew. You know, you're

872
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: throwing Stills and Cameron and you've got an offensive line

873
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: with Brandon Albert's healthy again, Jowan James is back. You

874
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: got Laramie Tunsel now to fill in for one of

875
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,399
Speaker 1: them or play guard. I think the surroundings are better,

876
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: and so like Kirk Cousins and Dalton last year, I

877
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: think Tannehill could get pushed up to a point where

878
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: he's seen as eleventh or twelfth, which isn't that far

879
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: from how people saw him in two thousand fourteen. Really yeah,

880
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,359
Speaker 1: by the end of people that by the end of

881
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: that year, people uh like, if you go look at

882
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: I think the year end sort of quarterback rankings and

883
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: QBR and stuff like. That's the range he was in

884
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: was the Eli Manning type of range after that year,

885
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: boosted artificially by a gimmick offense that highlighted his strengths

886
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: and hit his weaknesses. But that that's how you get

887
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: That's how you get credit. And I think I don't

888
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: think he's gonna suddenly turn into a great player. But

889
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: he throws with anticipation. That's something I saw when I

890
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: went back and watch him. I think he's good. He's

891
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: not great, but I think if he's really supported, he

892
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: can be really good. I think the answers be because

893
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 1: if you start sixteen games in today's NFL, you're throwing

894
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: for four thousand yards. I think Brock Osweiler have to

895
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: be a miserable failure not to do that. We when

896
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: we did the Sun NFL. Now we you did not

897
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: drop the Osweiler stat line? Correct? I did? Oh you did? Okay, Well,

898
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: I think this is a tight race. Um, I'm gonna

899
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: go Tannehill because one thing I'm not sure about with

900
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: Miami's offense is the running game at this point. And

901
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: they may be throwing the ball a lot, but also

902
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: you're talking about top twelve. If if one or two

903
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: of the people that were in the top twelve last

904
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: year kind of fade off this season for whatever reason,

905
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: and another one or two get hurt, he could slide

906
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: right in there. I don't love Ryan Tannehill either, but

907
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: I do think that Adam Gates has done a good

908
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: job and each stop he's been at, and it's an

909
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: upgrade coaching wise, sort of in general for the Dolphins.

910
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: And we're not asking tanne Hill to be something he

911
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: completely wasn't last season statistically, right, I think Philbin and

912
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: the people he hired could have been among the worst

913
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: coaching staffs in the entire league. And so you're hoping

914
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 1: that Gays and the people he hired our league average

915
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: and that's going to help you a lot. Here's here's

916
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: one problem I would see, And Mark, you mentioned the

917
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: running game, which is very up in the air last night.

918
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 1: Right now. You know I'm a Lamar Miller fan. You could,

919
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: at the very least Lamar Miller is a very effective

920
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: back when given the opportunity. Last season, uh sacks by

921
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: year for Tannehill, which isn't all his fault, but does

922
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: point to some deficiencies and pocket awareness, etcetera. Thirty fifty eight,

923
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: which led the league forty six and fourteen forty five

924
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: and fifteen the most lost yardage on sacks in the league.

925
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't have a running game and defenses

926
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: don't have to honor that, he could I mean, this

927
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: could be just a complete Butcher show. Behind their line

928
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: is better, though their line has improved. But I think

929
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: you know, with all these young quarterbacks, some of those

930
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: sacks with the quarterbacks fault. You're right. I think Tannehill's

931
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 1: biggest problem is he doesn't get rid of the ball

932
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: quick enough, and he doesn't seem to What separates the

933
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks from the average ones like Tannehill are the

934
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 1: ability to process everything quickly and make decisions. But before

935
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: the snap, he has not shown that he's great at

936
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: that part of his game. I think that's fair. But

937
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: he also has limited mistakes. I I did the stats

938
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: when I did the article. Since he's in the last

939
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: two seasons, he has thrown the sixth fewest interceptions in

940
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: the league per per throw. And the other people on

941
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: that list are all Pro Bowlers. They're all the best

942
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: part of the Yeah, it's how you define mistakes. Taking

943
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: sacks that you shouldn't take as a mistake. Not seeing

944
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be seen as a mistake, not

945
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger on throws downfield as a mistake. Pro

946
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: Football Focus ranks the offensive line. I know they're not perfect.

947
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: It's not what it's not, you know, end all be all.

948
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: But the Dolphins were third, and this is you know,

949
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: they account for guys holding the ball or not. Thirty

950
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: second in the league in two thousand fourteen overall, and

951
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: thirty first in the league last year. So he's had

952
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: some really lousy lines in front of him. I even

953
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: liked the potential of Osweiler, but he was one of

954
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks in the league last year, so it's

955
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: like one of the worst. Feels a little strong. Well,

956
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: they didn't give him a lot to do. I think

957
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: he's just an unfit, Like I just don't know what

958
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,600
Speaker 1: he's it's just a lot of question marks. Yeah, I

959
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: don't know. Though, to West's point, if he did four

960
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: if he did a four thousand, twenty eight touchdowns pass right, yeah,

961
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: that's per that's a good quarter I know the numbers

962
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: are inflated out the position, but that could that would

963
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: be the Texans would be doing backflips one something pass

964
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: a ready and Hoyer is a completely He's got his issues,

965
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: but Hoyer came in with more experience at least. I

966
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 1: just think with Osweiler, we have to see Bill O'Brien.

967
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: I could wouldn't have a problem with coming out of

968
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: next year with people thinking just as highly of Bill

969
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: O'Brien as they do with Adam Gaze, depending on what

970
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: happens there. That Yeah, that's a good point. I mean,

971
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: we Gaze is a little bit of an unknown too,

972
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: not I mean, just you don't know if a good

973
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: coordinator is going to be a good a good Well. Also,

974
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: is it better for for Ryan Tannehilty have Gaze as

975
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator instead of his head coach? Why are

976
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: we assuming just because the head coaches there, it's gonna

977
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: help Tanna. That's fair, alright, Greg, Alright, two teams last

978
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: year which underperformed, maybe maybe more than any teams in

979
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: the league. Everyone kind of expects the Ravens and the

980
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 1: Cowboys will bounce back to some degree because they're talented rosters.

981
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: But what's more likely the Ravens don't bounce back at

982
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: all this year, and by December, we're hitting. We're hearing

983
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: leaked reports to NFL media insider Ian Rappaport that John

984
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's job is not secure or the Cowboys don't bounce

985
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: back at all, not gonna come close to sniffing the playoffs.

986
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: And we hear reports that Jason Garrett is going to

987
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: be let go by the Cowboys that you're in m

988
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: that's more likely. My first instinct is that John Harbaugh

989
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: unless things go really bad. How bad are we talking

990
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: about the same as last year? Although that would be

991
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: worse because they wouldn't have the rash of injury. But

992
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying a four or five win team, uh, for

993
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: each of these scenarios, I think that's something he might

994
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: have to fire some of his assistants, but I think

995
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 1: he would be safe, and then it would be a

996
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 1: do or die. I see how John Harbor, I think

997
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: he has enough rope. Jason Garrett, I don't think is

998
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: the same situation. I think, especially if you know, uh,

999
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: Romo plays more games than he misses, but they still

1000
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: stink despite having you know, this hotshot running back in

1001
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: this offensive line and all these high paid players. I

1002
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: think Garrett definitely could go, and you know Jarad has

1003
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: been more than patient with Jason Garrett. I think that

1004
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: if they had a really disappointing season, Jerry Jones was

1005
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 1: getting older would be compelled to act. I see the

1006
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Ravens as a roster that has question marks at every

1007
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: single position except tight end. I could easily see them

1008
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: only winning four games. I think the Cowboys are the

1009
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: clear favorites in the NFC East. I would be shocked

1010
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: if they were unless another injury to Romo and des

1011
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 1: Brian to be shocked if they were not if they

1012
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: were out of the race. That's said, I don't think

1013
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: John Harriball is in any danger of losing. Well. I

1014
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 1: didn't say he's gonna get fired, but you're hearing some

1015
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: leaked report ports if they're if they're a four win team,

1016
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna hear something what what West is saying?

1017
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Why didn't that make Jason Garrett more susceptible getting canned

1018
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: if they had a bad year, because he has all

1019
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: these pieces, and and if Ozzy Newsom takes a step

1020
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: back and talks with the ownership, like listen, there's not

1021
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: a lot here. He's doing the best he can. I mean,

1022
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't have the tools that have a successful

1023
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: team right now, It's kind of two different questions. Jason

1024
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: Garrett probably the one more likely to be fired, but

1025
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: the Raven is more likely to finish with a bad record.

1026
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: You know one thing about Garrett when before the playoff

1027
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: year two seasons ago, a lot of people were waiting

1028
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: for Garrett to get acts to one point or another.

1029
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: After after multiple five hundred seasons, you can't get over

1030
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: the hump. And you know Sean Payton sitting out there,

1031
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: and we know Jerry Jones has a fascination with him.

1032
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 1: Sean Payton's under lock and key now and when they

1033
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: talked about Garrett in the past, and I do think

1034
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: it's sincere, they talked about it as someone that since

1035
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: he was started in the league, that they've put twenty

1036
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,759
Speaker 1: plus years of investment into. And I would have to

1037
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: fall on Jason Garrett's shoulders in terms of he's not

1038
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: coaching them correctly game after game, almost losing games the

1039
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 1: way Coughlin did last year in bizarre fashion. If it's

1040
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 1: not that, I would go with the ray evens. I

1041
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: don't know. It's tough though, because if the Ravens the

1042
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: other situation, I could see is Ozzie Newsome taking not

1043
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: the heat. But if someone's head needs stroll that Ozzie

1044
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: Knewsom was at the end of a proud, long career

1045
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 1: could step down at some point and let what is

1046
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: it eric to cost to come in and maybe take

1047
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: over that operation. I mean, Nazi Knewsom is not young

1048
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: at this point, but you created a good one. I'm

1049
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: gonna go more likely with the Ravens because they're more

1050
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: likely to finish four and twelve. Ravens are a proud,

1051
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: proud franchise. You know, Billick won a Super Bowl there.

1052
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,399
Speaker 1: He had some winning years after he had he had

1053
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: to he had. I think he struggled for two out

1054
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: of three years, but the one in between was the

1055
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: one where they lost with McNair as a one seed

1056
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: and and Billy got canned. So I just think that's

1057
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 1: a that's a proud franchise and another bad. Theeveon would

1058
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: be tough for them to swallow. I don't have an answer.

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Speaker 1: But Ozzie Newsome, by the way, one of those guys

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Speaker 1: that looks older than he actually is. He's got a

1061
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: lot of age on him, but his last pro season

1062
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Speaker 1: was He's sick the years old. So well, he's been

1063
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 1: doing this for a very long time, that's all I'd say.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of looks like he's eight. I'm

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Speaker 1: not I think you could do it for another ten years.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ushering him out the door. It's just that

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Speaker 1: if maybe it fits for someone else to take a

1068
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 1: step down, we should do it. We should do like

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Speaker 1: top five player GM careers that. Oh yeah, all right,

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Speaker 1: that was what's more likely. Good job, guys, A lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. Uh. That's it for Tuesday's edition of Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. We'll be back with one more show

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Speaker 1: uh this week before and Irish, I know you're working

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Speaker 1: on it. Uh, this is this is happening guys. Starting

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Speaker 1: next week, we're rolling out our first ever best of

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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. Let me get a little

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00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: bugle for that. How about that? And Irish, you've been

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00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work on this, haven't you correct

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Speaker 1: a lot? This is your chance that you're you're going

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00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: for mout rushmore. You're saying the chisels they're staying out forever.

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00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: This is gonna be my grand artistic statement. Well, I

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00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: hope people look at it that way. Yeah, there's a

1083
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Speaker 1: lot on the line, I mean, this is gonna do

1084
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Speaker 1: it great, this is almost Yeah, this is your mount Rush.

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Speaker 1: This is it what you basically said, I mean, this

1086
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: is the thing you've been chiseling. Yeah, it's true, it's true.

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00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: It gets a little complicated and confusing, but there's multiple

1088
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Speaker 1: amount rush boards that play here. But especially because it's

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00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: all your guys work that I'm just putting together, right

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Speaker 1: what you're basically what Irish has done. And he he

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: referenced our or he dove into the subreddit around the

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00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: NFL podcast uh if you want to check that out,

1093
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: and reached out to the audience and also spoke with

1094
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: us about things that we got a lot of positive

1095
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: feedback on and we're rolling it out. I also I

1096
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 1: heard from someone else in the Blue room that he's

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00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: actively bleeped out any comment or reference to the gold

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Speaker 1: Standard or Sydney and t D all of them gone. Um,

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Speaker 1: Brandon's gotten feist here as the al right, so yes,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back on Thursday. Best Of starts next week

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Speaker 1: two weeks. The Best of uh two episodes I should say,

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Speaker 1: overspread over two weeks after after this week. So that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun stuff to look forward to until

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Speaker 1: then this is Dan Hanson signing off for Quiet Storm.

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Speaker 1: I'll go back, buddy, Thank you. It's good to have

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Speaker 1: you back. It's good to be here. The mailman, the

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Speaker 1: Boss and Irish behind the glass down Thursday. You're twisted

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Speaker 1: your girls a hoe, you broke the kid ain't yours,

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00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: and everybody know your old man say you stupid, you'd

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Speaker 1: be lacked. So I love my baby mama. I never

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Speaker 1: let it go. Yeah right, you will let her go.