WEBVTT - Bring Brittney Griner Home

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<v Speaker 1>What's good family, it's your girl to meeke A D.

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<v Speaker 1>Mallory and it's your boy my son in general, and

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<v Speaker 1>we are your hosts of street politicians the place. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, my son learning? How you doing today? A

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<v Speaker 1>new city. We've moved on from l A to New

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<v Speaker 1>York to now we're in where we are. No. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>shout out to Nolah, shout out to the Essence Fest.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Um, black people, a bunch of black people

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<v Speaker 1>just out here doing what they do. Man. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>always good. Yeah. Today starts the concerts and the convention

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<v Speaker 1>center has opened and for the next few days, people

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<v Speaker 1>will be actively being black, learning about our culture, eating

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<v Speaker 1>food that we like, buying products, supporting black businesses, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, listening to health conversations, listening to social justice conversations.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a panel on voting rights, seeing celebrities, um, all that.

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<v Speaker 1>It all happens at the Essence Music Festival. The Essence

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<v Speaker 1>Festival is now what they call it. They drop music

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<v Speaker 1>because it's it's in a whole experience. It's a whole experience.

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<v Speaker 1>There ain't just no music no more. And going to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the concerts at night, which is a highlight

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I think Janet Jackson is coming back. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I know they're gonna have Mary, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's something. If you don't have marry at Essence Fest,

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<v Speaker 1>like what are you doing? I think the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>that happens is that there is a very um intentional

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<v Speaker 1>celebration of black women at the Essence Fest. Blackness magazines

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much this celebration and exaltation a black woman. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I I think I was telling you that. A man

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<v Speaker 1>told me. He said, yeah, he was on the plane.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you're working this weekend. He said, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I was working. If I'm not anymore, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm a worker, right because I'm gonna give me one, two,

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<v Speaker 1>three women down here at the essence Fast. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>come on, he gotta he gotta, he gotta go. A

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<v Speaker 1>man with a plan man three not to not want three.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get it, and I bet you there's three

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<v Speaker 1>that that want to be They want to be with

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<v Speaker 1>him to listen, like I said, man, a man with

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<v Speaker 1>a plan's a man that's gonna get what he can whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, yeah, you know, um, my mother passed away

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<v Speaker 1>and in the next week I've been just going over

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<v Speaker 1>getting his tattoo of her face, and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>find like a really good tattoo artists. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>put this tattoo on my arm and underneath his satricious

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<v Speaker 1>son and remembers, but I also want to put my

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother's because I didn't. My grandmother passed away when I

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<v Speaker 1>was locked up, and I always wanted to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are pretty much the two most influential people

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<v Speaker 1>in my life, you know, who nurtured me and gave

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<v Speaker 1>me levels of confidence and things that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I would have without them. So I've been thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>that the last couple of weeks. I wanted to do

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<v Speaker 1>it at first, you know, when she first passed, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was I thought he was too emotional, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's too most emotional time for me. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm working on. I don't know why, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>something I want to do, like and I don't do.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of tattoos. I'm not like a

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<v Speaker 1>tattooed person, so it's not like a normal thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>these tattoos that I really wanted, you know, just really

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that they're done right. They're not tattoo person,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta full the whole thing across the top

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<v Speaker 1>of your chest. In comparison, I got four tattoos, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're big, like I got. I'm not a tattooed person.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one thing, which is my son's name. Right here,

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<v Speaker 1>you add something stretched from one side and your chest

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<v Speaker 1>to the other. Well, Originally I wanted to um. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make my body into a general's uniform. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you're talking about is this is the the

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<v Speaker 1>um color that goes around the general's uniform. If you

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<v Speaker 1>look on the general's uniform, you'll see d S these

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<v Speaker 1>medals on the top of east side and then on

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<v Speaker 1>I have the seal of the general on east soldier,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean on each shoulder. So I was gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>like the badge with all of the purple hearts and

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<v Speaker 1>all those things. I was gonna literally make it into

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<v Speaker 1>a uniform. But I realized I wasn't like really a

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<v Speaker 1>tattooed person at that time, you know, I got That's

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<v Speaker 1>when I realized it, and I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really want to just be getting tatto whoos

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<v Speaker 1>and tattoo my whole body up. So I stopped, but

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<v Speaker 1>something stopped you from doing that. Yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. It's I know a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>have hundreds of tattoos, Like I got friends they got

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<v Speaker 1>fifty and thirty and forty and hundreds of tattoos. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really a tattooed person, but when it has

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<v Speaker 1>some level of value of significance to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want, like I wanted, I want to see my

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<v Speaker 1>mother's face when I look down. I want to see

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother's face on right here on my farm. So

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<v Speaker 1>those are things that I mean, you might you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's gonna be a little bit of pain.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're old man, and the old man it's different

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<v Speaker 1>when you become an old man. When you when you're older,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the heart of your body gets so you

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<v Speaker 1>want custom to pain certain things anymore because more custom

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm listening to you, I'm saying, I've I've dealt

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<v Speaker 1>with levels of pain and things that I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>never could survive, and I survived them, So it ain't

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<v Speaker 1>really that much different. While I was sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>plane yesterday and out of know where, my knees just

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<v Speaker 1>started herd and I'm like I'm sitting down, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>even walking, like what is wrong with my knees? This

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<v Speaker 1>is just what happens when you get to be over forty,

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<v Speaker 1>so you you are old man now. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's beautiful. I think you picked the

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<v Speaker 1>right pictures. Make sure you get you know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for. And to your point, you need a

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<v Speaker 1>good tattoo artist, which is not easy to find because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody thinks stay the best and they're great, and then

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<v Speaker 1>their work looks like stuff just mumbled together, jumbled together.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope you find the right person. You should

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<v Speaker 1>actually put a call out on the graham Um to

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<v Speaker 1>find a makeup makeup tattoo artists who can recreate what

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking for. I mean, I've seen a couple so

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of my friends have tattoos that I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen done and I like the quality and the detail

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<v Speaker 1>of it. So you know, I'm gonna reach out to

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<v Speaker 1>them and get some try to get those connections. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it expensive? I mean, it depends it depends on who

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<v Speaker 1>does it. You know, tattoos, you know they're range in prices,

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<v Speaker 1>depends on who does it. Some people sometimes the other

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<v Speaker 1>couple of tattoos I got. I actually never paid for

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<v Speaker 1>a tattoo, right. I tried to artists that were dope

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<v Speaker 1>that wanted, you know, because I had a level of

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<v Speaker 1>a platform and celebrity that they wanted people to to

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<v Speaker 1>see the art that they did on me. So like, YO,

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<v Speaker 1>just let people know I did it. Take a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it depends. It all depends. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>one guy. Did you see the guy who tattooed cockroaches

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<v Speaker 1>all over his chest? Stupid? What he must have been

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<v Speaker 1>a he was like, made no sense none whatsoever. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into the news stories. We have a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>uh deep interview that we're doing today with Brittney Brian's

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<v Speaker 1>childhood friend who was like her sister. They actually call

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<v Speaker 1>um one another sisters, and she's like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>closest people outside of Sharrell Britten's wife. And so she's

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<v Speaker 1>coming on and we want to give her a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of time because the sister, she's got a lot to say. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I want to get into these news stories quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>There's two things that happened we get We'll get two

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<v Speaker 1>stories from the National News and one from Instagram News. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The two stories unfortunately, and you know, I we were

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<v Speaker 1>really all of the folks who work with us, precious

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<v Speaker 1>who helps us to kind of think through, um, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what our rundown of the show will be. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And certainly I was doing it trying to find like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some positive things that have made the press

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<v Speaker 1>this week, things that we want to talk about. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, yo, you you can't ignore these stories that

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<v Speaker 1>keep coming out about um, black men being killed by

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<v Speaker 1>the police and you know, or being harmed significantly by

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<v Speaker 1>the police. Uh. And it's sad because it's like people,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you feel like it kind of dies down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we are always back in the situation. And

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like these situations get worse and worse and

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<v Speaker 1>worse because George Floyd, we all know, was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the worst that we've actually seen with our eyes. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you have Jalen Walker, who's in akron Ohio, where by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, my family lives there. Many members of my

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<v Speaker 1>family are in akron Um And I don't even have

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity to sit and read the details of what

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<v Speaker 1>the police say. I don't know, and I'm sure I

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<v Speaker 1>other that be posted and I'm gonna have to understand

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<v Speaker 1>it at some point. But today, what I do know

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<v Speaker 1>it's sixty shots were fired at Jalen Walker that it

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<v Speaker 1>him in his face and all over his body. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I know. And the reason why I said I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the story is because you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>enough I'm able to pick up in enough places if

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<v Speaker 1>he was shooting at somebody, or if he had robbed

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<v Speaker 1>a bank and had an old lady you know, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>an elderly woman hell hostage, or if he had a

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<v Speaker 1>child dangling over a bridge, like I know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have seen that. I would have seen that. I'm I'm, I'm, I'm,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like a hundred percent shore And I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you might know, and somebody else been, but I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty sure he did not do anything that call for

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<v Speaker 1>sixty shots that hit that boy all over his face,

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<v Speaker 1>his his his face, and his body mutilated him. No,

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear? There's never there's never a justification for that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, especially when there's no weapon found, right,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're running from the police, and and and

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<v Speaker 1>we and yet we always try to find people that

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<v Speaker 1>want to justify and say, well, I need to know

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<v Speaker 1>the other part of the story, and I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know what happened before this happened. That's always, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened before this, y'all. You're only showing us this piece

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<v Speaker 1>of the thing. And it's always the same, same sad song,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And and it ultimately ends in the death

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, the severe injury of one of our people. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>So my my prayers go out to them. Hopefully he

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<v Speaker 1>gets justice. Hopefully those officers are brought to justice. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what, they're on unpaid leave right now or

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<v Speaker 1>paid administratively, administratively probably old same old too. And so

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<v Speaker 1>now the city has canceled some of their festivals and

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<v Speaker 1>other things that you know, are supposed to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things that they do in the summer and acuring and

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<v Speaker 1>all over the country. They've had to cancel those occasions

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<v Speaker 1>because they are concerned about um uprisings. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>so tired of it. Then, you know, we learned uh

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<v Speaker 1>last week while we were interviewing being prompt and now

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<v Speaker 1>I've I've actually talked to him about it. Randy Cox

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<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut. Basically the police did the same thing to

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<v Speaker 1>him that they did to Freddy Gray. They put him

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<v Speaker 1>in the car without strapping him in with his seatbelt,

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<v Speaker 1>with his hands behind his back, and basically he broke

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<v Speaker 1>I think they say he broke his neck, but certainly

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he's paralyzed for um from his neck

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<v Speaker 1>down for the rest of his life. Um. They there's

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<v Speaker 1>video footage of the officers asking him, Hey, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with you? You know what's happened. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't feel my body. I can't feel my legs. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't feel And they're like, yeah, you know, okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like sit up, You'll be okay. But

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<v Speaker 1>they took him on what's that with the way ride?

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<v Speaker 1>On the rough rough ride, and so now this this

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<v Speaker 1>this man, um, you know, it's paralyzed. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know because I just, you know, between us going traveling,

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<v Speaker 1>we've been dealing with Brittney Grinder, we've been engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>another thing that we can't talk about right now. People

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<v Speaker 1>don't I saw somebody on the internet today, Um, oh

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<v Speaker 1>you look cute, because you know, I posted a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of me at the BET Awards and he said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you look. But do you even do activism anymore? Or

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<v Speaker 1>are you a socialite. Now you're trying to be a socialite.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, if people knew, you know, because you know

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<v Speaker 1>how you know? Last week was a tough week, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I was busting my behind before the b ET Awards

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<v Speaker 1>the next day afterwards, working on stuff, playing in a

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<v Speaker 1>prayer vigil for Brittney Griner, handling proposals for other big things.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that we have that we're working on. Um, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just so much and people just don't know. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that folks believe that if they don't see you

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there on your computer or look like you're crying

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<v Speaker 1>and beat down, they don't believe that anything is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But we actually have so much, so with everything with

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<v Speaker 1>me research and Grinder reading up on Russian laws, talking

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<v Speaker 1>to lawyers about what they think and how we should

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<v Speaker 1>approach getting in this fight, the you know, calling Silla

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Lee, the congresswoman from Texas, doing all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like reading the space of more black

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<v Speaker 1>men kill, but I looked enough not seeing them scape. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Randy Cox drove his car into a senior citizen center

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore they nabbed him and this happened. It's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe it's there either. I very rarely see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes there's justification before the most part, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>police have decided that their emotions and there and how

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<v Speaker 1>they feel about situation superseed justice, and we see it

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<v Speaker 1>often enough. And the fact that they're able to say

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<v Speaker 1>or I felt this was happening, or or I was

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<v Speaker 1>scared or this and that and I didn't know in

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<v Speaker 1>those things or defenses, it means that it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to happen, right, So until we until we have

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<v Speaker 1>something a system set in place that makes you accountable,

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<v Speaker 1>fully accountable for when you do things that are completely wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>when people lose their lives and people are paralyzed, then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna keep seeing the same things. Yeah, it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be a better way. It just it does. And

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<v Speaker 1>we say that all the time. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that we're giving it today the full attention, but you

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<v Speaker 1>know that over the coming days we will, UM well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have more to say and of course will follow

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<v Speaker 1>the lead of those people who are on the ground

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<v Speaker 1>in Akron, Ohio and in Connecticut. Leaders. I know Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Esdale is in Connecticut, UM and you know he's president

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<v Speaker 1>of the New haven. I think chapter maybe it's not

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<v Speaker 1>NAVE and I might be wrong of the N double

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<v Speaker 1>A C p UM and you know, and also the

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<v Speaker 1>Regional UM president, I mean regional leader. I forget the

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<v Speaker 1>exact titles, but he has a lot of influence there

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<v Speaker 1>in Connecticut. And we're gonna take everyone's lead, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have more to say to break down the details.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like trauma wipped. I really am. I'm trauma

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<v Speaker 1>with Like I feel like there's just so many cases,

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<v Speaker 1>so much that's happening that people don't again, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>think about the totality, and that's what everyone's worked. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't always think of the totality of what the government

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<v Speaker 1>is dealing with or what you know, different individuals. They

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot to deal with every day. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting thinking about uh, Stanley David just the third

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<v Speaker 1>Stanley Davis, third teen year old boy deserve justice. He

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<v Speaker 1>hit the officer to him, Staling has a job still

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been fired in Boyton Beach, Florida, kill by a

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<v Speaker 1>rogue officer with a rat sheet, a rap sheet of times,

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<v Speaker 1>including two other times where he performed high speed chases,

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<v Speaker 1>and another child and another individual were killed, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>he still has a job. So that is something that

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<v Speaker 1>requires our work and attention. I got a text message

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<v Speaker 1>today from Tennisia Chappelle's family asking can until Freedom be

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<v Speaker 1>there for the anniversary of their sister being killed basically

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<v Speaker 1>by police, I mean by by jail officials, by the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO is not giving them her medical attention and who

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<v Speaker 1>even knows how she got sick. And that's in in

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<v Speaker 1>in where they live in Kentucky, but it happened in Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>There's just too much trauma. It just is. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope people are mentally taking care of themselves, uh

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<v Speaker 1>and doing whatever they can to kind of separate from

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<v Speaker 1>the trauma at times, but not to separate so much

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not fighting because we have obligation to fight.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of obligation brings me to I said we

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<v Speaker 1>would do our national news story and then our Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>news story. Uh. Last week a big thing broke out

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<v Speaker 1>that has been going on all week on or yeah

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<v Speaker 1>on uh whether or not the father of one child

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<v Speaker 1>in a house with three other children was wrong for

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<v Speaker 1>bringing McDonald's only to his child and not the other

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<v Speaker 1>kids in the house. They it was a whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, was he wrong and what was really probably disturbing.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it was disturbing to me. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even watch the video, but I heard enough about

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<v Speaker 1>what was being stated, um that I know that what

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<v Speaker 1>took place was not appropriate. For a mother to go

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<v Speaker 1>online and basically degrade the man, throw the food on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, put it on video, and send it out

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<v Speaker 1>to the world. That to me is completely inappropriate and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no excuse for it, none. And I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>sit here and say, well, but you know, I get

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<v Speaker 1>that she's frustrated. It doesn't matter. It's wrong, it should

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<v Speaker 1>not happen. We got enough issues with black men even

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<v Speaker 1>showing up to be with their children, and the barriers

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<v Speaker 1>in that sometimes are created um by the world and

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<v Speaker 1>then also sometimes by mothers where they are putting all

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<v Speaker 1>of these different obstacles in the way for fathers to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to see their children. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>the father even showed up right is even there is important.

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<v Speaker 1>And I have to say that. I want to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I say that from the beginning. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>going to weigh in as my thought of the day

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<v Speaker 1>on the specific question of whether or not a man

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<v Speaker 1>uh should bring or if he is obligated to bring

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<v Speaker 1>food to all the children in the house when he

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<v Speaker 1>comes to to feed his own, and I think he should.

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<v Speaker 1>I think my uh if I had to give my vote,

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<v Speaker 1>because it certainly is a split conversation. I happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the phone with my sister, my God's sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were arguing back and forth about who's right

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<v Speaker 1>and who's wrong. But I do believe that uh if you,

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<v Speaker 1>especially because we later learned that I did see this

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<v Speaker 1>video popped up on my feed where the same mother

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about, um, you know, how this man had

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<v Speaker 1>been there with her children in the past, that these

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<v Speaker 1>three children are his, her first children, that he knew

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<v Speaker 1>when he met her, and he had been involved in

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of those kids and doing things for them

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<v Speaker 1>and feeding them and whatnot in the past. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that, UM, my perspective is that when when when

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<v Speaker 1>we used the use of the word and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>people saying, oh, he doesn't have an obligation, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the problems with our society is that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't feel obligated. We don't feel obligated when a

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<v Speaker 1>woman is being beat down on the street by a

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<v Speaker 1>man or you know, being robbed or whatever, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>just standing there watching. We don't feel obligated. When police are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, arresting somebody, you don't feel obligated to stand

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<v Speaker 1>by and film what's going on. And we certainly and

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<v Speaker 1>those situations are people you don't know, but you certainly

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<v Speaker 1>should feel obligated to do what you can for the

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<v Speaker 1>children who are the siblings of your child. And it

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<v Speaker 1>is not to say buy them all fancy things or

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<v Speaker 1>give them a bunch of stuff. But in the black family,

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<v Speaker 1>in the black community, it has always been very clear

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<v Speaker 1>that when you show up with food, you don't come

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<v Speaker 1>to a house to feed you. You don't come to

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<v Speaker 1>the house with food just for yourself and not make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that everyone else eats. And I think as a man,

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<v Speaker 1>as a father, um, if I personally believe that if

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<v Speaker 1>you come to bring food for your child, you should

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<v Speaker 1>bring it for all, or you should take your child

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house, take them on the little trip

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<v Speaker 1>to McDonald's, do what you're gonna do, and bring your

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<v Speaker 1>child back, but never let your child eat what other

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<v Speaker 1>children are not. And I'm pretty much I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any real disagreement with what you're saying, because I would

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<v Speaker 1>never do me personally, I would never do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>my only issue with the conversation was the word obligation. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>In the world, obligation is something it's difficult for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people, right, because a lot of men be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll do it, but I'm not obligated. It's like you're

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<v Speaker 1>helping somebody's Like, if I have enough money to help

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<v Speaker 1>my friend, right, people, your friend will called you right

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<v Speaker 1>and feel out of yod. You got money, why you

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<v Speaker 1>don't give me to pay my rent? You know you're

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. You've got money, you you you should be

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<v Speaker 1>able to give it to me. You should make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. You should make sure I'm doing this. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a lettable entitlement, right. The word obligation means that somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else is entitled to something that you have, right. And

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<v Speaker 1>in my in my opinion, if I didn't make these children, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not entitled to anything for me. Right. What I

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<v Speaker 1>what I do for those children is at the kindness

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<v Speaker 1>of my heart, because I'm a man of a certain caliber,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reality is every man is not of that caliber.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you decide that you're dealing with men that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not of that caliber, and you have expectations of

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<v Speaker 1>them that is beyond the caliber of that individual. Whose

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<v Speaker 1>fault is that at that point, right, Whose fault is

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<v Speaker 1>that there's a bunch of friends, like I see a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of famous people, rich people all the time talk

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<v Speaker 1>about how their family feel like they obligated to pay

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<v Speaker 1>their rent. That because I'm rich, I'm supposed to give

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<v Speaker 1>you money because you know I have Because if I

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<v Speaker 1>if I just call you every week for five dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're my friend and and we're family and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure you're good, I should give it

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Am I obligated to do? That? Is their

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:05.639
<v Speaker 1>expectation for me to do that? Right, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to say in this situation, this man

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<v Speaker 1>knowingly made one child. Knowingly he he made this challenge. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where my obligation is. I'm obligated to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that this child is could. Right. It's just like

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<v Speaker 1>a mother say, like the argument is woman's suit. A

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:29.000
<v Speaker 1>man that made the challenge said you should be paying

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<v Speaker 1>on my bills. No, my my obligation is to my child.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when when the relationship. This um dissipates in its

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<v Speaker 1>over right, I might have it dissolves or whatever. I

0:24:41.359 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>might have been doing things within that relationship that I

0:24:44.520 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 1>felt obligated within that relationship. Right, I might have done

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<v Speaker 1>things for those kids and you because that was my

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 1>obligation to that relationship. There are men who feel when

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<v Speaker 1>they're no longer in that relationship, they're no longer obligated

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<v Speaker 1>to the things that they would do in that relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>The only thing that obligated is to things that are

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<v Speaker 1>completely there. And that man felt like, this is my child. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't do that. If I'm bringing food to a child,

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<v Speaker 1>it's cool. But the word obligation to me is a

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<v Speaker 1>false narrative. It's not a reality. And that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying that the only way our communities can ever

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<v Speaker 1>become whole is the use of the word obligation. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like you feel like you obligated to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to me. Do you feel that you you break

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<v Speaker 1>up with a man he has kids. Those kids don't

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<v Speaker 1>have anything they they I mean, okay, well, listen, you

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>used to take care of those kids, used to give

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<v Speaker 1>these kids a weekly allowance, When you was in a

0:25:45.320 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 1>relationship with that man, you gave him a weekly allowance.

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.400
<v Speaker 1>When that relationships ends, are you still obligated to give

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<v Speaker 1>those kids a weekly allowance? I want this to be

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<v Speaker 1>very clear because I think what we do, um all

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of us, is that we are to add a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of elements to conversations that actually are not about the conversation.

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 1>The conversation is very specific. We add a lot of

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 1>things to conversations that is actually not what we're talking about.

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 1>The conversation is not about allowance. We're not talking about Christmas,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about friends, We're not talking about any

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<v Speaker 1>of that. We're talking about food and what food means right.

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<v Speaker 1>Food means love, food means nourishment right, And especially if

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you at one point lived or what what you were

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 1>a constant person in children's lives, you do not feed

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:50.280
<v Speaker 1>one without feeding the others. That is a fundamental thing.

0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:52.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about whether or not you should have

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>to give. No, you can give your child allowance, and

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>you may not be able to or even want to

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.399
<v Speaker 1>give the rest of the people allowance. And I noticed

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 1>also when you were speaking, you were like, whose fault

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 1>is that? Because she and she we're not talking about

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>she removed her from the situation, her when she's the

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:13.720
<v Speaker 1>one with the issue already. No, no, But because there's

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:17.280
<v Speaker 1>some women who don't believe that he's obligator, woman who

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>we're not talking about. We're not talking about women. We're

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>talking about your opinion in mind, and we're not talking

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>about I'm not talking about my opinion of your opinion

0:27:25.119 --> 0:27:27.480
<v Speaker 1>has to be based on the totality of the situation,

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>because if we just give our opinion based on us

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.920
<v Speaker 1>as an individual, and we're not giving it from perspectives

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that are are different than ours or understanding other people's perspective.

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>So you can bring into space so that the conversation

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 1>can be in full it's not really a conversation. But

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.120
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying to you is that I'm not I'm

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 1>not here to try to analyze right that she did this,

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>and she said this, and she said that, I'm here

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 1>to narrow down to one point. Should a man or

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I want men who has been involved in the lives

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>of children, which, by the way, you also said I

0:28:07.800 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>had a child, I made a child with you. But

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:15.160
<v Speaker 1>that's a problem that we get ourselves into as human beings, right,

0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>is that we go have children and particularly our brothers.

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Our brothers get themselves in situations when this when the

0:28:23.080 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 1>ship is cool and it's good and it's popping, and

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.560
<v Speaker 1>have babies with people who already have babies. So when

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you meet a woman and she has children that are

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 1>from a previous relationship or previous relationships, you now are

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>putting yourself in a situation where you're having a child

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 1>that is a sibling, that is a sibling, not just

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.479
<v Speaker 1>your child that is you know. It's very similar to

0:28:49.960 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>what we want to see uh people do for Brittany Grinder,

0:28:54.040 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 1>what we want to see people do for Brianna Taylor.

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>We're asking people to step out of their comfort zone

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>to be engaged with the community. And when your child

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:10.800
<v Speaker 1>is a sibling in a community other kids is a

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:15.600
<v Speaker 1>community you do not feed. I'm not talking my buying sneakers.

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not talking about uh, you know, taking them on

0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:22.160
<v Speaker 1>every vacation, although I think you should if you was

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>doing it before, if you can't afford it. I'm talking

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 1>about bringing food. It's in in every black household, right

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>I know, with with um in my family, people got

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>children by other folks, but they married to my grandparents.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>They're they married in and they bring other children with them.

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Those ain't my grandparents grandchildren. Those are my mom and

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>dad or my aunts and uncles grandchildren. But when those

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>children are around, they do for them all. They feed

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>them all. You don't feed one without feeding others. That's

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>just an or. Or remove your child. You take your child,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:08.680
<v Speaker 1>say I pick I'm picking my child up from four

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:12.800
<v Speaker 1>to six on Thursday, we go into McDonald's. You don't

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 1>gotta say that. You don't even gotta say what you're doing.

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna tell nobody that's y'all thing, and you teach

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 1>your child while you out. Hey, And by the way,

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 1>guess what me like you said, you and I are different,

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Me and my child going to McDonald's. When we leave,

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get you another little twenty piece and take

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it home to your brother's assistance if you can. If

0:30:36.080 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm going to tell you. What I'm trying

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>to explain to you is that is that is a

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.640
<v Speaker 1>choice to me, because right, that is a choice that

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>we've made based on our upbringing, based on how we

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>feel about things. Right, But the word obligation means entitlement. Right,

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>somebody else's entitled. If you if I'm obligated to do

0:30:56.680 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 1>something to you, that means you're entitled for it to happen.

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:02.600
<v Speaker 1>But about my son, I think that that's the problem

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.480
<v Speaker 1>with the whole conversation, right, because what I'm trying to

0:31:05.520 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 1>do is elevate the conversation to whether we are obligated

0:31:09.280 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to our people, and if we are obligated to our children,

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and if we are obligated to the mental capacity, and

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 1>what we as adults when we make decisions we hurt

0:31:22.840 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>or help, We hurt or heal, We cause confusion, and

0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:30.160
<v Speaker 1>all of us have are guilty of it in one

0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>way or the other by things that we do. That's life.

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>We know it. You know what I'm saying. If you

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>you you can work too much, Like my child was

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 1>harmed because I was working all the time and I

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 1>wasn't able to give him some of the things that

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>he needed as a kid growing up. So we hurt

0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and we heal. Right, I'm saying that we do have

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 1>an obligation. The obligation is not about the entitlement piece

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.080
<v Speaker 1>the way you're speaking of it, Because I understand what

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, Like you you think you're entitled like I'm

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>supposed to just do. No, that's not what I'm talking about.

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying the obligation as a man that I want

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 1>my child to be in a healthy environment with other

0:32:15.600 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 1>children that feel loved. That's because this is a community,

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>and that is the obligation. So I'm not and I

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>guess what you said. You made the point which I

0:32:25.920 --> 0:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>agree with, that I'm trying to remove the convo from

0:32:29.120 --> 0:32:32.560
<v Speaker 1>the context of a dialogue that many people are having,

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>and you're sitting in the middle of the dialogue understanding

0:32:35.960 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that there are people like, oh, you know, he's supposed

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>to and you're saying he is not supposed to. I'm

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:48.600
<v Speaker 1>asking us, as men and our men, raise the level

0:32:48.640 --> 0:32:52.520
<v Speaker 1>of standard to that and make it an obligation. Right.

0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>I saw on Fathers a Live in the Hood um

0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 1>their Instagram page they said something that I thought was

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 1>powerful and now I was if you can't bring McDonald's,

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>bring groceries, but feed every child, we feed every child.

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's my opinion, that's my thought, and I agree.

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I just I just want, you know, just based on

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>the whole situation, the context of it, I just want

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>it to be a well rounded thought out situation, because

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>in certain situations people will use this as some level

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 1>of entitlement and use the word obligation. And I realized

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:34.120
<v Speaker 1>that I'm only obligated to do what I know is right. Right,

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm only obligated to do what I feel is the

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>right thing to do, or what what I'm bound to do. Right.

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm only if I make children, I'm obligated to take

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 1>care of children. If I decide that it's another kid

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 1>down the block that I want to take care for,

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and I've decided to do it, then those things wrong.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>But I hear what you're saying with the thing, and

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it's wrong because you're saying there's another child

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>down the block, and I and I know why you're

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>doing that, because your instincts are telling you to separate

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>that child far enough down the block. But we're not

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about a kid down the block. We're talking about

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:12.040
<v Speaker 1>sitting right there, sleeping right next to and that and

0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>that and that. You see what I'm saying. That's what

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>makes the difference. And a child at one point you

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 1>was around, You fed them, you was there with them.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>We're not told about down the block. You are not

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.799
<v Speaker 1>obligated to down the block, but you're damn sure are

0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.279
<v Speaker 1>obligated to make sure your child grows up in an

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 1>environment and has an attitude of certain Nobody knows what

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.799
<v Speaker 1>that man is dealing with. That man might be in

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a new relationship with a woman. They got three kids,

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:44.280
<v Speaker 1>right that he gotta take. But my sign already told

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you take your child out the door to ncdonald's. That's it.

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.720
<v Speaker 1>This is this is this, two scenarios that can work.

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.560
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to do nothing for those kids, even

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.160
<v Speaker 1>though I feel that's wrong, and I still feel when

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>the child comes back from McDonald's, he order have two

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:02.840
<v Speaker 1>or three little things. In that situation, that man as

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 1>might well bring him out here. But again I'm not gonna.

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to because I think again the way

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>that she handled it is wrong from sorry to finish.

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.279
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not see what I'm saying. You see how

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm offering. I tell you, I think in this situation,

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.200
<v Speaker 1>him just bringing she was triggered by him just bringing

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:30.200
<v Speaker 1>food to and that's what I'm saying. It was the

0:35:30.239 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>fact that he brought the food, and then it becomes oh,

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>bring my child. Ostut no, no no, no, no, no, don't

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>even do Thursday from Ford, my child calls me up.

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Is that all daddy? I wants a mint out Thursday

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>four to six. I'm gonna pick him up. We're going

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.960
<v Speaker 1>to McDonald's. Now when we have McDonald's. Were having a conversation. Hey,

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, you know I'm making sure you get your

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>McDonald's today. Your brothers and sisters, you make sure you

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:54.600
<v Speaker 1>take them these this I'm saying what I would do

0:35:54.800 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 1>chicken nuggets or whatever, or what you do. If you're

0:35:58.239 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna do that, you don't even gotta do that. If

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>bring food over there, if you just bring your food

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. But you also could say, do not be

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 1>going home, you know, trying to throw it in and

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 1>then it depending on what type of child you have,

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:14.279
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you gotta talk to him about being humble. Let

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 1>me just put it in that context. You're talking to

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>him about humble. You ain't got to discuss everything and

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.040
<v Speaker 1>do not be going there. But but again, as a man,

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 1>you are setting a tone, You're being a leader. You're

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 1>teaching your child how to behaved, how to be in

0:36:28.360 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 1>community and in family. And so what I'm saying is

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I think in the situation, I think we talked about

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in totality, should men be providing for the whole community.

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that is definitely UH a criteria and a

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.240
<v Speaker 1>quality that men should have. I don't think you should

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>ever want when kids to go. It's never a time

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 1>that I brought one kid food and I didn't buy

0:36:49.640 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>him all food. I just that's just not how I live.

0:36:52.080 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 1>But the reality of situation is when I look at

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 1>this situation in a way it was handled, he was

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he came there with malicious intent. He

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 1>was confused, like what do you will send him out? Like? Like,

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 1>had you handled it a different way, right instead of

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to throw that man under the bus and make

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>him seem like he was just this bad person, I

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>think he would have. I think he would have stepped

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.319
<v Speaker 1>up in a different man. I think you're not gonna

0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:20.359
<v Speaker 1>get out argument of it. I don't. I literally know

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that the way in which the whole situation was handled

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 1>going to the internet and all that, which I think

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>is stupid ship anyway people thinking that they go to

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 1>the Internet and somehow that's gonna help fix the issue.

0:37:30.520 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not so I understand that I am saying, though,

0:37:35.920 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>to beat all the kids, because because what to your point,

0:37:40.320 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the dialogue that has come up is I take care

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:47.280
<v Speaker 1>of mind, mind mind, mind, mind, mind, And I'm saying

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 1>that that, but I don't think that's what nobody I think.

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I think most people are saying it's a congest and

0:37:54.040 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 1>he should do it, and I would do it, but

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>that man is really not obligated. And that's what everybody

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 1>is saying, is most people saying that they would bring

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:05.080
<v Speaker 1>food for the kid and this and that, but people saying,

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:10.919
<v Speaker 1>fun I don't have to do anything for nobody else's kids.

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>And what I'm trying to say is that there needs

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>to be more leaning towards you. He should affect the kids,

0:38:16.800 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>because what happens is that when we provide that opening

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:24.479
<v Speaker 1>for mind, mind, mind, mind, and we give life to that,

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>it starts to be like a chancer in our community.

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>And I'm I'm suggesting that more of our men. I

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:35.040
<v Speaker 1>appreciate again, Fathers Alive in the Hood for putting that

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 1>statement on their page to say, if you can't maybe

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>you can't McDonald's everybody, then you bring a few groceries,

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>not even just for her day was being funny, but

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>for her and her man. That's that's going too far.

0:38:48.520 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>But I'm just saying. The point is as a man,

0:38:52.760 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 1>as a man, we need to set the message in

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>the community and in the world that if your child

0:38:59.360 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>is part of a community of kids that you already

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:08.080
<v Speaker 1>knew also that were there before your child, Everybody, well,

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I know my sign. Guess what. Here's the deal. It

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 1>is everybody. But there's a very rare circumc there's very

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>rare circumstances where a man has children that he has

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 1>in his house, all his children by his different baby mamas,

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>or by his two baby mus or whatever, and the

0:39:28.640 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>mother has to come there to bring something. Usually probably

0:39:33.000 --> 0:39:36.120
<v Speaker 1>of time it's the other way around. She's the vessel

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 1>who brings forth the children. They with her, and so

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.959
<v Speaker 1>it is a man, right that is coming to take

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 1>of his child. That's what I'm saying that I'm just saying.

0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:48.719
<v Speaker 1>It's very rare. Yeah, everybody, this is This is a

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>universal conversation. And it's not just about it's not just

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.960
<v Speaker 1>about these children in this house. When you go to school,

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't bring your child pizza. You ring all the

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.719
<v Speaker 1>kids pizza. Right, you don't come you don't come with

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>one company for your child for the day party, You

0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>bring all the children cupcakes over the cousin's house and

0:40:08.080 --> 0:40:11.600
<v Speaker 1>they spending the night and you're bringing something for your kids. What?

0:40:11.600 --> 0:40:13.319
<v Speaker 1>What did? What did your mother do? I know when

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid when I had to go stay

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 1>over my auntie's house while they went to the event,

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 1>So they did whatever, sorry, or or or at the babysitters.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 1>When I was going to the babysitter, my mother when

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:26.920
<v Speaker 1>she was like, let me give you some apple slices,

0:40:27.120 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>she's she said, oh and how many kids miss pack out? Danda,

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:32.399
<v Speaker 1>let me cut up some more apple slices to make

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>sure everybody can get something. Yeah, this is true. So

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:41.440
<v Speaker 1>that's my point. But anyway, we should get into our

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:43.560
<v Speaker 1>next guest because this is gonna be a long ass show.

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>So we're bringing up Um, the sister of Brittney Grinder.

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:54.240
<v Speaker 1>This week, we held a prayer vigil in Brittney's honor

0:40:54.600 --> 0:41:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that included rabbis, It included nondenominational folks, It included white folks,

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:05.239
<v Speaker 1>black folks, brown folks, Asian folks, women, men, everybody was

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:09.279
<v Speaker 1>there uh to support and to pray outside of the

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Russian Consulate for our sister Britney Grinder trial starts today, uh,

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 1>today's July one, but this show will obviously air afterwards, uh,

0:41:20.200 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and we're praying for her, praying for her mind. We

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>know that the court has a ninety nine percent uh

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>conviction rate, which means is kangaroo court. You show up

0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in court and they've already determined what's gonna happen to you.

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 1>But we hope she makes it in the one percent.

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 1>So we're joined by the close friend, childhood friend, uh

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 1>even they call one another sisters, Janelle Roy, who heard

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 1>from Brittney Griner on the same day that she was

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 1>being detained at a Russian airport. Um, Janelle, thank you

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>so much for joining street politicians today. We had an

0:42:04.200 --> 0:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>even such a beautiful person, and we just are you know,

0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 1>are glad that you're able to be with us, but

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>sorry that it's under such difficult circumstances. All right, UM,

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I just appreciate y'all. You know, it's it's such amazing

0:42:19.040 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>to stand with such powerful people who have our support,

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 1>who's showing love, you know, because it's hard to bring

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:26.760
<v Speaker 1>people out right, it's hard to get people to understand

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:28.840
<v Speaker 1>what's happening and what's going on, especially when it's not

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:32.439
<v Speaker 1>their loved ones. Some people don't understand that when it's

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>not their family and it's not their the aught their nieces,

0:42:34.680 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 1>their nephews. People don't understand the impact that it has

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.160
<v Speaker 1>on people's who lives and family and their lives room,

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, the mental state. You know, like we were

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 1>just talking about it earlier. You sit here and you

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>think about how you have to listen and look at

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>things in in the media and find out so much

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>through the media that nobody ever tells you. Just a

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 1>little while ago, you know, during the war, they just

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.840
<v Speaker 1>got hit with two different missiles that killed approximately, I

0:42:57.840 --> 0:43:00.799
<v Speaker 1>believe about twenty seven people. Um. I don't know, of

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:03.279
<v Speaker 1>course the whole statistics behind it, but I know that

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>people were, people were impacted, people were injured, that people

0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.839
<v Speaker 1>were dying because of it, you know, And you don't

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>know how far away that is from my sisters, my

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:15.680
<v Speaker 1>sister's jail. Um is she okay? Is she impacted? But

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.920
<v Speaker 1>she affected? Was any of that thing? You know? It

0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>was any of that happening, And people don't understand the

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>impact of those things because it's not them people. So

0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:25.239
<v Speaker 1>many people are so quick the judge and have the

0:43:25.320 --> 0:43:28.439
<v Speaker 1>opinions about things, you know. So, but y'all to stand

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:32.520
<v Speaker 1>behind my family and the support it's it's been, it's

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 1>been amazing. I couldn't ask for anything level I've been

0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:40.799
<v Speaker 1>a blessing to us. Well, it's you know, unfortunately we

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>have to be a blessing, right, it's unfortunate that we

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 1>have to meet. So it's beautiful people like yourself with

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the level of energy like yourself in situations like this.

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:52.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, I know today is the first day of

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:56.240
<v Speaker 1>the trial, you know, and I know that it has

0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:59.759
<v Speaker 1>to be a lot on family and yourself, Like what

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 1>with what emotions are you're having right now based on

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>this tram um. It's it's a little bit of a struggle,

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:11.080
<v Speaker 1>right because you you literally are sitting and you're watching

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the anticipation of you don't know what's gonna happen. You

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:17.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's gonna get said. Um, it's different when

0:44:17.080 --> 0:44:19.840
<v Speaker 1>in the United States and when you're are in Americans.

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Saw you you have the phone calls, right, you have

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the contacts and we have the connections to where you're like, yo,

0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>is this happening, What's what's going on? What's the next step?

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:33.239
<v Speaker 1>But the unfortunate lack of communication that we've had. We

0:44:33.320 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 1>have to sit in front of a TV and you

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:40.279
<v Speaker 1>have to sit almost feeling numb of I have to

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 1>pray for the best and I hope that you know,

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the worst has already happened. So you're just sitting in

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:51.600
<v Speaker 1>front of a TV screen pretty much watching like everybody else. UM.

0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:53.799
<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately, sometimes you know, it's like people are like,

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 1>are you are you good? Do you know everything? You know?

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>It's sad to say that that's my own system, my

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.279
<v Speaker 1>best friend, and I tell people like, no, I don't

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>want I don't know what's gonna happen. I'm gonna watch

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the TV like you do. So it's new to every

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.560
<v Speaker 1>all of us at the same time. So let me

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>be clear. No one has had any communication with Brittany

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:16.240
<v Speaker 1>since she's been lacking no, not pretty much, not verbal.

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:19.319
<v Speaker 1>But she did write a few letters when they allowed yes, yes,

0:45:19.360 --> 0:45:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say yes the letters the letters that

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>they have allowed. UM. So we have talked to her

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:25.799
<v Speaker 1>through the letters, but through the verbal of course, like

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:28.759
<v Speaker 1>with my sister in law situation. UM. The ball was

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 1>dropped unfortunately, UM with the phone call, so she she

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 1>wasn't allowed to make their phone call. And that's such

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 1>the difference right on American soil. You're allowed to make

0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:41.439
<v Speaker 1>the phone calls, you know, so you can at least

0:45:41.440 --> 0:45:43.840
<v Speaker 1>talk to the person to understand, because I mean, it

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>is what it is, right, But you can talk to somebody,

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.440
<v Speaker 1>if you know somebody long enough to say, hey, how

0:45:47.480 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 1>are you feeling? How are you doing? And you can

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 1>almost you can tell people voice and the emotions of

0:45:52.080 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 1>how that person is doing. And sometimes that's all it takes,

0:45:54.760 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>is just a phone call to even make the person

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:59.879
<v Speaker 1>feel some type of you made to say, all right there,

0:46:00.080 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 1>like os, so can you tell us what happened with

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the phone call? Like? What what happened with the phone calls?

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:12.799
<v Speaker 1>To um? So? For me, UM, it was my sister's anniversary,

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>and pretty much what happened was UM And this is

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously it wasn't to me, So I'm responding on behalf

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of my sister in law. But when I spoke to her,

0:46:22.000 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>she kind of, you know, she broke down. She had

0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>a breakdown moment, which of course as she should respectfully, UM,

0:46:28.239 --> 0:46:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and that's who I wanted to call her to make

0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>sure that she was good. So pretty much what happened

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.759
<v Speaker 1>was they scheduled the phone call UM weeks at least

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.720
<v Speaker 1>a week in advance, maybe a couple of days approximately,

0:46:39.040 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And what happened was a phone call was supposed to

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 1>come in UM for their anniversary. They scheduled that. They

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.719
<v Speaker 1>scheduled the phone call on a Saturday, which it was

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be already scheduled. It should have had it

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>should have been somebody there at the U S Induscy.

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 1>So what happened was is the Russians came in and

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>they allowed my sister to make a living calls. They

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.239
<v Speaker 1>actually brought her in, which where they have to bring

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.840
<v Speaker 1>her from the jail to where the call is is

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>about an hour or two hours approximately, so they have

0:47:08.600 --> 0:47:10.560
<v Speaker 1>to travel with her all the way there to make

0:47:10.560 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the phone call. UM. She made the phone call that

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 1>morning that several that morning, several that afternoon. The number

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that was given to my sister to make was a

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Monday through Friday phone call pretty much at the United

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:27.040
<v Speaker 1>States Embassy. They didn't give her a phone call that

0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>was a twenty four hour line for a weekend line

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:32.799
<v Speaker 1>for unknown reasons. I don't know why or how the

0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.120
<v Speaker 1>call got dropped on that side. UM but they came

0:47:36.160 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 1>back and the attorney said, hey, listen, they showed my sister,

0:47:39.320 --> 0:47:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, my sister in law, so Charelle the call

0:47:42.239 --> 0:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>logue and they said, hey, BJ was able to make

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:49.280
<v Speaker 1>the call. So Sharelle sat that Saturday like literally waiting

0:47:49.320 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 1>on the phone call to happen at ten eleventh class

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.319
<v Speaker 1>and just sat a for her phone the entire time.

0:47:53.360 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>But she's like, hey, I haven't gotten a phone call

0:47:55.320 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 1>like I thought. We scheduled this days ago. Where's the

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.320
<v Speaker 1>phone call not coming in? And the attorney said, listen,

0:48:00.800 --> 0:48:03.880
<v Speaker 1>she's already called you. She's called you eleven times. And

0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 1>she wrote like, how is she called me eleven times?

0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I have I've gotten nothing. So the communication started coming

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:13.640
<v Speaker 1>in and they pretty much said that on the UM

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>on our side, there was nobody working. Um, nobody was

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:21.560
<v Speaker 1>working that Saturday. We don't know why. UM. That really

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been answered to my sister in law as to

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>why the ball got dropped. Why they even allowed her

0:48:26.200 --> 0:48:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to schedule a call on a Saturday and give give

0:48:30.200 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>them a one day through Friday phone number. UM, So

0:48:33.960 --> 0:48:36.879
<v Speaker 1>pretty much nobody answered because there was nobody working. Yeah,

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 1>And that was and this is four months later that

0:48:40.120 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 1>they have not had a verbal conversation. And you know,

0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and I agree with you, um, with what you said

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:50.920
<v Speaker 1>that letters are important, but a phone call helps people

0:48:50.960 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>to really feel like they are, um, you know, able

0:48:54.600 --> 0:49:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to hear a familiar sound, right, soothing. Writing letters only

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:05.520
<v Speaker 1>feels like solitary confinement. I mean that that is you know,

0:49:05.640 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that's how it feels. I'm not saying that that's her condition.

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:11.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying if it feels like stop because in

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:15.360
<v Speaker 1>solitary confinement, all you can do is basically write some letters.

0:49:15.800 --> 0:49:19.799
<v Speaker 1>And what we know is that, um, there is no

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:21.400
<v Speaker 1>law because I went to look it up. I went

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:24.320
<v Speaker 1>to see whether or not Russia has like a rule

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.640
<v Speaker 1>or a law in place that says they have to

0:49:28.000 --> 0:49:31.560
<v Speaker 1>allow a phone I mean of letters to be written,

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:35.319
<v Speaker 1>they actually don't. So you know, whatever the attorneys are

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:39.400
<v Speaker 1>doing and the negotiations that's happening, at least to the

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:43.920
<v Speaker 1>extent that it is, um, you know, to to this extent,

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:46.960
<v Speaker 1>it's working that they would even allow her to be

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 1>in communication where she can write letters. Um, you know,

0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 1>her life. And so I had to say, you know,

0:49:53.320 --> 0:49:57.439
<v Speaker 1>that's a good thing. So now you you let's go

0:49:57.600 --> 0:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>back to the day that Brittany was arrested, because she

0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 1>was in communication with you throughout different times, maybe on

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:08.800
<v Speaker 1>the flight the west and you know, so she just talked,

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.600
<v Speaker 1>so tell us about those messages and what happened at

0:50:12.600 --> 0:50:16.200
<v Speaker 1>the end. UM. So we were in communication and we

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.560
<v Speaker 1>even faced on each other for a little bit. UM.

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:20.440
<v Speaker 1>She I want to go see her wife. She had

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:24.000
<v Speaker 1>came in um because of course my sister plays for

0:50:24.040 --> 0:50:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the Russian the Russian League, um, um out there or whatever.

0:50:28.719 --> 0:50:31.719
<v Speaker 1>So when I remember when she called, she goes sis

0:50:31.960 --> 0:50:33.399
<v Speaker 1>was good. I just wanted to give you a call.

0:50:34.000 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting ready to fly back. I knew she want

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.879
<v Speaker 1>to go see Charrell. UM. So she was coming back

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>before she was, you know, flying around and stuff like that.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Left Phoenix, went to New York, and I had FaceTime

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Flury in New York, and I was like, yo, I

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:47.520
<v Speaker 1>love you have a good flight, because that's typically the

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.160
<v Speaker 1>long flight to me, I don't talk to her for

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>like two or thirteen hours UM. And sometimes me being

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:53.840
<v Speaker 1>a big sister, right, I'm like, yo, you have to

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 1>call me, you have to text you get what if

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yo, I'll pay for the WiFi for the

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.360
<v Speaker 1>for the plane, like you gotta give WI fire so

0:50:59.400 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I can text you. Um. I remember waking up that

0:51:03.680 --> 0:51:09.279
<v Speaker 1>morning and it was uh February seventeen. She text me

0:51:09.840 --> 0:51:12.239
<v Speaker 1>um to let me know that she was in a

0:51:12.320 --> 0:51:15.560
<v Speaker 1>little bit of trouble. She goes, hey, UM, I didn't

0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:17.000
<v Speaker 1>get a text you. As soon as I landed, I

0:51:17.080 --> 0:51:21.759
<v Speaker 1>called shrill, but um, I'm probably you know some stuff

0:51:21.800 --> 0:51:24.279
<v Speaker 1>happening at T s A. I can't say much. Um,

0:51:24.800 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 1>some stuff happening at T s A. I love you.

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:32.880
<v Speaker 1>So my heart kind of went down, like it's six's happened. Um.

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:36.400
<v Speaker 1>We did stay in communication. I'm assuming for what they

0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.320
<v Speaker 1>allowed her to keep her phone because she was allowed

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 1>to text me a little bit. But I know between me,

0:51:42.480 --> 0:51:45.840
<v Speaker 1>her agent, and her wife, we were all between us three.

0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:48.279
<v Speaker 1>She told me that she was in constant communication with

0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:51.879
<v Speaker 1>all of us. So she just sporadically would text um

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.879
<v Speaker 1>and say hey, I love you, And I'm like, where

0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 1>are you at? Have you landed? I'm like, do I

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:58.799
<v Speaker 1>need to come fly to you? I even asked them

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the text messages, I and yo, I'll buy

0:52:01.040 --> 0:52:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a flight right now, okay the price. I will come

0:52:03.560 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>help you, um, or I'll come, you know, talk to

0:52:06.480 --> 0:52:08.960
<v Speaker 1>you or sit with you or whatever, and she goes, no,

0:52:09.040 --> 0:52:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm already in Russia and I'm at the police station. Now.

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.920
<v Speaker 1>She was like, I still can't say much. Remind you,

0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>our conversations were so spread out, so they were like

0:52:19.680 --> 0:52:23.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe i'll run between so my sexy messages. I'm still like, sister,

0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:26.760
<v Speaker 1>you're okay, Sister, you're okay, and I'm just getting no response.

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:29.680
<v Speaker 1>So when she says me a little response, I'm getting hope.

0:52:29.760 --> 0:52:31.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, my sister is not in that much

0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 1>ruble because she still has her phone. Um. And then

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:39.560
<v Speaker 1>between was the last text message I got, and that's

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>when she pretty much she was like, Sis, I love you,

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like what happened? And that was what I said.

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what happened. Thirty minutes after that, I asked her,

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm like are you okay? I'm like, say, it's where

0:52:49.880 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 1>are you at? And then that's pretty much when I

0:52:52.160 --> 0:52:54.600
<v Speaker 1>got the last thing, and she pretty much told me

0:52:54.640 --> 0:52:57.840
<v Speaker 1>that she loved me. UM, and that broke me right

0:52:57.840 --> 0:52:59.319
<v Speaker 1>because the next phone called that I got was the

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.880
<v Speaker 1>attorneys and she reil calling. Then she goes like, hey,

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 1>they took phone for good, and I'm like, what are

0:53:04.520 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>you I'm talking to Sheila on the phone. I'm like,

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean they took her phone for good?

0:53:08.080 --> 0:53:12.239
<v Speaker 1>There was like she was detained. Now they've officially arrested her.

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:14.319
<v Speaker 1>So from that time at you know, eight o'clock in

0:53:14.320 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 1>the morning to about two o'clock to to three o'clock

0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:20.840
<v Speaker 1>our time, the force, um is when the entire situation

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:23.799
<v Speaker 1>took place. And then after Sherrille called me, it was like,

0:53:24.040 --> 0:53:28.520
<v Speaker 1>she's not gonna text you anymore, you know. And you

0:53:28.600 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 1>know the crazy part about this for me, right, it's like,

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:36.560
<v Speaker 1>this is b G is arguably one of the best

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>basketball players in the world, um, and both of these

0:53:42.280 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>countries have utilized that skill set, right if utilized, they

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:50.440
<v Speaker 1>benefited from it. You know, She's played in the USA team,

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>she's played in the Russian League, and both of these

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:57.120
<v Speaker 1>teams have utilized that. And for them not to see

0:53:57.360 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the necessity in allowing this woman to be free, especially

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 1>at this in this moment, in this situation, you know,

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:09.280
<v Speaker 1>and and to handle it as if she was somebody

0:54:09.640 --> 0:54:13.000
<v Speaker 1>that has they both benefited from it's really just disheartening

0:54:13.040 --> 0:54:16.200
<v Speaker 1>to me. It's really disheartening that black women have to

0:54:16.239 --> 0:54:19.600
<v Speaker 1>deal with these things. I just feel like even in

0:54:19.640 --> 0:54:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the league, even just the outcry is not loud enough

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:25.920
<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, if you know, she's one of

0:54:25.920 --> 0:54:27.600
<v Speaker 1>the best players in the w n b A, and

0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:29.880
<v Speaker 1>if one of the best players in the NBA this

0:54:29.920 --> 0:54:32.799
<v Speaker 1>would happen to it would be a far louder cry.

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:35.560
<v Speaker 1>There would be way more people speaking up on behalf,

0:54:35.640 --> 0:54:40.080
<v Speaker 1>not just sporadically. They would be an organized attempt to

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.440
<v Speaker 1>make something known. And the fact that that's not happening

0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>it really bothers you know, how do how do you

0:54:46.600 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>feel about that? Um, it's just like you said, I mean,

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you took the words out of my mouth, right, it's

0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:56.240
<v Speaker 1>just heartening. You know, my sister being uh an Olympic

0:54:56.280 --> 0:54:59.879
<v Speaker 1>player playing for the United States and as women, right,

0:55:00.280 --> 0:55:04.239
<v Speaker 1>my sister only goes overseas because of the salary. She

0:55:04.280 --> 0:55:07.839
<v Speaker 1>goes overseas because that is her income, that is her

0:55:07.840 --> 0:55:10.160
<v Speaker 1>means of living, and that's how you know she has

0:55:10.200 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 1>to maintain. You know, this is not and as a

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 1>as a previous ball player, I can speak on you know,

0:55:18.640 --> 0:55:21.440
<v Speaker 1>she's not going over there because she just enjoys it.

0:55:21.600 --> 0:55:23.759
<v Speaker 1>And that's what she wants to do. She's growing over

0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:26.480
<v Speaker 1>there because that is her livelihood, that is her career,

0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's how she makes money. Um. And unfortunately, you know,

0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 1>she doesn't make the same money like that airplane in

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>the United States. So then what do you have to do.

0:55:35.200 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's also the passion and the love for the game.

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:40.319
<v Speaker 1>But for her as a as a human being, as

0:55:40.360 --> 0:55:44.800
<v Speaker 1>a woman, you're playing for two countries who put you

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:50.240
<v Speaker 1>on this pedestal. But yet when something happens, is it reciprocated?

0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Do we have your back the way that you've been

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 1>having goers in the way that you represented our country

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:57.000
<v Speaker 1>Because at the end of the day, as a basketball player,

0:55:57.080 --> 0:56:00.440
<v Speaker 1>she's representing both countries. You know, she's represented when she

0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>goes over Sieve and when she a hundred percent represents

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:07.200
<v Speaker 1>while she's here with us on American shoil. Um. So

0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, dis hardening is the it's the perfect word

0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:16.680
<v Speaker 1>for it, because you say, we were talking about this

0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:20.879
<v Speaker 1>already earlier in the show. Uh talking about I think

0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:23.880
<v Speaker 1>they is it like twenty thousand dollars or something like

0:56:23.960 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 1>that is the salary? Well for women they have a

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:30.239
<v Speaker 1>cap it's approximately I think they gave a little bit

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:31.960
<v Speaker 1>of an increase, but I think for the women right now,

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the cap is like a two hundred Okay, so right,

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:37.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I said the wrong number. I didn't mean

0:56:37.880 --> 0:56:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to say two hundred thou yes, so its two hundred

0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:46.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. It's all you can make in the US

0:56:46.360 --> 0:56:51.000
<v Speaker 1>as a yeah, I mean, and the and the NBA

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:54.759
<v Speaker 1>players some of them are making so much money they

0:56:54.800 --> 0:57:00.680
<v Speaker 1>can't even count. It's just every average basketball players, like

0:57:00.800 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 1>average basketball players make five and six million dollars a year,

0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and oh absolutely, and it's yeah, and there's no disrespect,

0:57:11.080 --> 0:57:13.479
<v Speaker 1>there's no disrespect to anybody, you know, for the league.

0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:16.800
<v Speaker 1>For the league goes um, but as people um for

0:57:16.840 --> 0:57:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the NBA who sit on the bench and you know,

0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.840
<v Speaker 1>that's that's thirteenth man. They probably won't play, you know,

0:57:21.920 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 1>for another three and four seasons, and they getting paid

0:57:24.520 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>millions of dollars, you know. And it's funny because me

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 1>and my sister a couple of months ago, obviously before

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 1>she got arrested, we actually had the conversation we were

0:57:32.840 --> 0:57:35.600
<v Speaker 1>laughing about and I'm like, yo, you still think about

0:57:35.600 --> 0:57:37.600
<v Speaker 1>going to the NBA. I'm like, yo, you should just

0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>do it, like going to the NBA at least one year, right,

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:42.400
<v Speaker 1>because a couple of years ago, you know, when she

0:57:42.520 --> 0:57:45.640
<v Speaker 1>first got um in the league, they were talking about,

0:57:45.800 --> 0:57:47.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, should be the first woman in the NBA,

0:57:48.040 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>like we'll pick her up, and I'm like, yo, at

0:57:49.960 --> 0:57:51.360
<v Speaker 1>this point, I'm like, you should have just did it,

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:53.760
<v Speaker 1>Like you should have just did it the accolade, you know,

0:57:53.800 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And then now you think about you like if she

0:57:56.040 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 1>was in the NBA with the's still make a difference,

0:57:58.880 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, the salad. That thing is

0:58:01.600 --> 0:58:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a political issue, right, It's a political I had a

0:58:05.200 --> 0:58:09.120
<v Speaker 1>conversation yesterday with Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee where we were

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about you know, she's obviously been very supportive of

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 1>b J as well. She held a demonstration in Texas

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:21.439
<v Speaker 1>um and also pushing the administration making sure the State

0:58:21.480 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Department doesn't forget about Brittany, and so she's doing that

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>work and she and I were speaking about this whole

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:31.360
<v Speaker 1>situation yesterday, and a part of it again comes back

0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:34.160
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that Brittany even had to go to

0:58:34.440 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Russia in the first place. And as you it is

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 1>an it's an economic situation, and therefore we have to

0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about in the midst of all of this, and

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:47.240
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait until Brittany is free so she can

0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:51.320
<v Speaker 1>come home and be a part of the discussion about

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 1>how there is the pay gap disparity that we speak

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:59.240
<v Speaker 1>about all the time in other industries is right before

0:58:59.280 --> 0:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>our faces right here in sports that you have two

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:07.640
<v Speaker 1>different um uh leagues, if you will, but both of

0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 1>them make major money for for other people. See I

0:59:13.040 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 1>want to see for white boats, but I don't want

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to get y'all you know you and have Sharrelle upset

0:59:20.400 --> 0:59:25.200
<v Speaker 1>with me, But actually no, for real, because the owners

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 1>of these teams for the most part, for the most part,

0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a few here and there, but you know,

0:59:30.760 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 1>in the in basketball, the owners of these teams there

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 1>are a bunch of white people and they're making millions

0:59:38.600 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 1>and millions billions of dollars utilizing black and brown bodies,

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:48.360
<v Speaker 1>largely knowing that people have to fly back and forth

0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:50.800
<v Speaker 1>to your point, and I want to know where are

0:59:50.920 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the owners right? Forget about the players. We put so

0:59:54.120 --> 0:59:59.120
<v Speaker 1>much responsibility, which I still feel Carmelo, Lebron and all

0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.800
<v Speaker 1>these guys. I'm I thought to myself last night, I

1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:05.160
<v Speaker 1>need to call Kyrie because Kyrie is our he's our friend, right,

1:00:05.200 --> 1:00:07.760
<v Speaker 1>And we call him and asked him and Nick what

1:00:07.920 --> 1:00:10.320
<v Speaker 1>he feels engaged because some people don't know what they

1:00:10.360 --> 1:00:13.680
<v Speaker 1>should do or not to do. They don't know, right,

1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:16.080
<v Speaker 1>But so I'm gonna call him because I know that

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:19.320
<v Speaker 1>he will support But that's a lot of pressure on

1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 1>players who are all right. Issue the people that we

1:00:23.760 --> 1:00:28.000
<v Speaker 1>need to be challenging is where are the owners of

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:31.880
<v Speaker 1>these different teams? And what is your position on this?

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:34.919
<v Speaker 1>Because you're the one that has the power to make

1:00:35.000 --> 1:00:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the phone calls. You might have a Russian friend you

1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:43.360
<v Speaker 1>play golf fit at your country club who flies back

1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:46.840
<v Speaker 1>into a business in the US. Perhaps you should call

1:00:46.960 --> 1:00:50.120
<v Speaker 1>that person and see if they have a direct line

1:00:50.160 --> 1:00:52.520
<v Speaker 1>to be able to contact the folks over in Russia.

1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:54.600
<v Speaker 1>People need to go to work on this and this

1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and this, and I keep hearing this thing. Someone said

1:00:57.840 --> 1:00:59.920
<v Speaker 1>to me the other day, a very powerful black woman's

1:01:00.000 --> 1:01:02.600
<v Speaker 1>it to me, Well, they are working on it. It's

1:01:02.640 --> 1:01:06.840
<v Speaker 1>just that they can't tell you anything. Okay, maybe that's true.

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:09.640
<v Speaker 1>But all I know is I now have done some

1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:12.919
<v Speaker 1>research on the Trevor Reid situation, and yes, it looked

1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:15.600
<v Speaker 1>longer time and it was all of that, I get it,

1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:19.360
<v Speaker 1>but there was it was very clear that there was

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:23.040
<v Speaker 1>work being done to try to negotiate on his behalf.

1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:28.040
<v Speaker 1>There are stories out there where there's more being said

1:01:28.360 --> 1:01:32.960
<v Speaker 1>than just um a priority. No, they're getting into the

1:01:33.000 --> 1:01:36.400
<v Speaker 1>details of how they're working on it. That all of

1:01:36.440 --> 1:01:40.120
<v Speaker 1>this is I don't understand. Why not for for Britney Griner,

1:01:40.240 --> 1:01:43.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't you know, And I agree with you, that's

1:01:43.040 --> 1:01:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the same um thing that me and my system I

1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was just talking about that. She discussed it, uh the

1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:51.440
<v Speaker 1>other day when she had an interview with C and them.

1:01:51.440 --> 1:01:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Where's the action being shown? You know, there's a there's

1:01:54.840 --> 1:01:57.280
<v Speaker 1>a complete difference of we can continue to talk about

1:01:57.320 --> 1:02:00.280
<v Speaker 1>something every day, right, but when you show me unthing

1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:02.200
<v Speaker 1>on paper, when you show me something in the end, oh,

1:02:02.240 --> 1:02:04.320
<v Speaker 1>it makes a big difference. It's just like the phone call, right,

1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.840
<v Speaker 1>writing and talking, Well you can talk or do those

1:02:07.840 --> 1:02:10.600
<v Speaker 1>are those are the two things? Um. And that's why

1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.480
<v Speaker 1>we said, you know, that's that's always the biggest push

1:02:13.480 --> 1:02:15.640
<v Speaker 1>for us, is that's the only thing that we're asking

1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:18.360
<v Speaker 1>if you are you showing me something or you're just

1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:21.520
<v Speaker 1>telling me what do I want to hear? Well, especially

1:02:21.560 --> 1:02:24.000
<v Speaker 1>as women we go through so much every day that

1:02:24.120 --> 1:02:27.760
<v Speaker 1>we have to battle a man's world, right sometimes, so

1:02:28.120 --> 1:02:30.440
<v Speaker 1>if you show me something and say, hey, this is

1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:33.720
<v Speaker 1>what we're doing or this is what we're working on, okay, respect,

1:02:33.920 --> 1:02:37.440
<v Speaker 1>we get it now. Okay, I see where this is going.

1:02:37.520 --> 1:02:39.960
<v Speaker 1>I see that we're moving in a forward direction. But

1:02:40.080 --> 1:02:42.600
<v Speaker 1>it's like, especially as a woman, it's almost like you're

1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:44.360
<v Speaker 1>telling you telling me what I want to hear, so

1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I can shut up and sit down. Well, I mean,

1:02:48.280 --> 1:02:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've had the opportunity to speak with Charrell

1:02:51.760 --> 1:02:53.840
<v Speaker 1>on the number of occasions and with and this is

1:02:53.840 --> 1:02:58.000
<v Speaker 1>a very poised woman who, um, you know I I'm

1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:00.680
<v Speaker 1>surprised that. Well, no, I'm not, because black women are

1:03:00.720 --> 1:03:03.000
<v Speaker 1>just what we are, black people, and I'm not gonna

1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:06.240
<v Speaker 1>just because black men also have to just deal with

1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:09.640
<v Speaker 1>extreme circumstances all the time and still show up and

1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:13.960
<v Speaker 1>still speak, you know well, and and present well and

1:03:14.000 --> 1:03:17.040
<v Speaker 1>try to keep everybody else calm and all of that. Right,

1:03:17.040 --> 1:03:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Because I called her lit like what and like this

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<v Speaker 1>is and so she's unable to share every little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of what she's pizzd together because this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>sensitive issue. But I can tell and she has said

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<v Speaker 1>to me very clearly, I don't have a lot of faith.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a lot of faith that people are

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<v Speaker 1>working as hard for my wife as they should be. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and I think that I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm if I'm President Biden and I'm getting my briefing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm and I'm Kamala Harris, Vice President Harris, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting a briefing and Brittany Grinder comes up. Knowing

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<v Speaker 1>these two individuals and being around them for many years,

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<v Speaker 1>it's compassion there. I'm sure they're like, this is horrible,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you mean? But I also know that when

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<v Speaker 1>the politics get in the room, when all the other

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<v Speaker 1>individuals come in and they're like, yeah, but we're dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the war and we got this going on and

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<v Speaker 1>we did that in the third and blah blah blah,

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<v Speaker 1>it can push further their action to match their compassion.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why we as the citizens of this country,

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<v Speaker 1>have to be vocal so that they will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, I forgot. We can't forget Brittany. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't forget Brittany. Sorry, my son, I'm just running

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<v Speaker 1>my mouth, but about this, you know, no, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, you know, you hit the nail on

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<v Speaker 1>the head with that. And that's that's the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 1>for us and my family is I don't want my

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<v Speaker 1>sisters to be forgotten for everything that she has done,

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<v Speaker 1>um for this country, um these teams, for both countries.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she's won multiple championships also with the Russian team,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And that's the biggest thing for us, is

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want my sister to be forgotten under no circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, And I don't think it's it's even humane

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<v Speaker 1>for her to be for good. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this situation requires all hands on deck, you know. I

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<v Speaker 1>just it really bothers me that we hear that something

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to supposed to be going on, and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>knows what it is, right, nobody knows what a negotiation

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<v Speaker 1>looks like, what anything, and and and for the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>her family, her wife, her friends are only gonna learn

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<v Speaker 1>actually what happened really is going on just watching the trial, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the only way that you you we are

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<v Speaker 1>being informed. And I think you know there needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be more steps. I think you know from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>the strategy that everybody had for me was just wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, understood to a certain degree, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>that not making it seem like this was a priority

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't allow on it to continuously get to this place.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've heard now that regardless of whatever that's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>this another six months at least, that she has to

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<v Speaker 1>wait to come home or if that's even gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just so confused, you know. But they'll say,

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<v Speaker 1>they'll some I'm sorry, Look, we got we took over

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<v Speaker 1>the interview to each other. But but they only that

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<v Speaker 1>we're into process and that negotiations, especially in a high

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<v Speaker 1>tension situation, because obviously we cannot. First of all, we

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<v Speaker 1>do know. We're very brilliant people who have been able

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<v Speaker 1>to organize lots of things. We read, we understand, so

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<v Speaker 1>we do know that when there's a war happening, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes it more politically complicated to be able to negotiate someone. Brittany,

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<v Speaker 1>she's she is in this situation at the wrong time.

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<v Speaker 1>We all we get that. What they will say is

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<v Speaker 1>that the negotiations that's happening, especially in light of the tension,

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<v Speaker 1>is it creates a situation where they can't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>any of it. The our administration, any administration, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a bully pull pick right where they can keep the

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<v Speaker 1>people in the people's um interests, they can speak about

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<v Speaker 1>at least say her name. Have you ever even heard

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<v Speaker 1>President Biden or Vice President Harris at at any situation

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<v Speaker 1>say we also, you know, are thinking of our sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Brittney Grinder hasn't been have you seen I'm asking you

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<v Speaker 1>have you seen anything any any any letters written or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I personally have not. And I know my

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<v Speaker 1>sister in law from what we've discussed and what we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about here and there, UM, I know she's probably

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<v Speaker 1>had one person that reached to her, uh from the

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<v Speaker 1>administration side, but it was more so towards her to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna help you, We're gonna try to work with you. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember exactly who that was, but I believe

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<v Speaker 1>from what my sister in law told me, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the EMI phone call that she had received from them

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<v Speaker 1>since and that was that was I believe in the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning when it first got pushed out, UM that

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<v Speaker 1>she was arrested in Russia, because if you remember, for us,

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<v Speaker 1>we had already knew that there was some type of

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<v Speaker 1>situation that was going on before he had actually got

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<v Speaker 1>exposed in the media. Um so we were already trying

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<v Speaker 1>to come together, obviously as a family, to try to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, Okay, what's the next steps. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of been a phone that one phone call came through.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, we I believe I know my

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<v Speaker 1>behalf you know, um on, my sister in law's behalf

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<v Speaker 1>from We talked very frequently. She hasn't told me anything

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<v Speaker 1>of that nature. Everything that we've pretty much been told

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<v Speaker 1>and exposed to has been through the attorneys from both parties,

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<v Speaker 1>from both administrations. And see, that's that's what I That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Like that, that's I'm talking about. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying that some type of public Uh god, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. They're working their meeting behind the scenes. But

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<v Speaker 1>we know them, we know, we know how college seations operate.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't if if it's out of sight, it's

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<v Speaker 1>out of mind. That's just it is. And and the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing is a black woman, you can pay me money.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no amount of money. You couldn't give me a

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars right now. To believe that people are waking

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<v Speaker 1>up every day going hard for Brittany like they would

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<v Speaker 1>for lebron. Hey, now you'd be speaking too much of

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<v Speaker 1>the truth on that, right, um. And that's why I said, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just the way that our society is right now, right.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's why we just spoke about it a little

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<v Speaker 1>while ago. I said, I don't want she shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten because we're pushed so much in the back burner

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, for society, she's not let's not say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's not that important to deal with. But I guarantee

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<v Speaker 1>you anybody else that meant something to them, or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that was such this this huge athlete or this huge person, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it would have never been forgotten. It would have never

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<v Speaker 1>been pushed off the table. We would have been discussing

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<v Speaker 1>this every single day. It would have been a political report.

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<v Speaker 1>But because it's just my sister, and it's just a woman,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just this, it becomes so minute that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't take it off as important. But yet she's done

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<v Speaker 1>so much for the country. I think for me, like

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to see And you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>calling anybody out, it's not you know, to um throw

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<v Speaker 1>anybody under the bus. But I would love I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to see the superstars of the NBA and all

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<v Speaker 1>the superstars of the NBA come together collectively and make

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<v Speaker 1>a statement to talk to the administration and say that

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<v Speaker 1>this that that you know, we we've given our lives

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<v Speaker 1>for this country. We've given blood, sweat and tears for

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<v Speaker 1>this country, throwing medals for this country. We've done everything

1:11:01.080 --> 1:11:03.680
<v Speaker 1>for this country. And we and we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>treat Brittney Grinder like she did. That we want from

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<v Speaker 1>behalf of us that we we were making a united

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<v Speaker 1>front as a voice and standing up and speak to

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<v Speaker 1>the administration and president and everybody to make it known

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<v Speaker 1>that listen, we want Brittany Grinder home. We want you

1:11:20.800 --> 1:11:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to do whatever is necessary to make sure that Britney

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<v Speaker 1>Grinder comes home. She shouldn't be a political poemt she

1:11:26.640 --> 1:11:29.479
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be caught in between it is. Brittany Grinder should

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<v Speaker 1>be home at whatever course it takes for the come

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<v Speaker 1>And I would just love to see that because that

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<v Speaker 1>would show me because we had conversation yesterday about protecting

1:11:38.280 --> 1:11:40.280
<v Speaker 1>black women and black men and all these things, and

1:11:40.560 --> 1:11:43.559
<v Speaker 1>for me, that's what it looks like. It means having

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<v Speaker 1>an uncomfortable situation, saying things that might not make you

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<v Speaker 1>favorable to the to the higher ups or whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know it's the right thing, and I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you, and you know you make a good point, right, Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Much of love to everything at the NBA has done

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<v Speaker 1>for my sister, because I know during the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, they did, you know, they put my

1:12:04.479 --> 1:12:07.000
<v Speaker 1>sisters Molitioris and forty two and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know you had a lot of the big NBA

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<v Speaker 1>players you had like CP went out and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>were my sisters show they you know, they have to lectures.

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<v Speaker 1>All that says, you know, we're b G and much

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<v Speaker 1>love to that and the support and you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely definitely appreciated. You know. But you know, like

1:12:25.160 --> 1:12:30.000
<v Speaker 1>we were saying before, it almost as like, where do

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<v Speaker 1>you put people in the position that if it was

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<v Speaker 1>your brother, if it was your sister, how much would

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<v Speaker 1>you actually do? How much would you actually do? And

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<v Speaker 1>it is your sister? And that's what that's what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I want us to realize that this is how a sister.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't this is not somebody that's this is one

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<v Speaker 1>of us. This is somebody that we celebrate the accolades,

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<v Speaker 1>we look and we we love everything. So you have

1:12:51.880 --> 1:12:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to you have to celebrate it when it's not favorable, right.

1:12:55.040 --> 1:12:57.000
<v Speaker 1>You gotta be able to promote, You gotta do the

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<v Speaker 1>things that it takes an uncomfortable time to fight for people.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's it's definitely our system. And I think and

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's hard for a lot of people. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't like to be pushed out of

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<v Speaker 1>their comfort zone. Right. A lot of people are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to say, but if it was you,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was your sister, your brother, what would you

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<v Speaker 1>say at that point? Would you sit back and allow

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<v Speaker 1>something like that to happen, especially somebody so close to you?

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been you Because a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>players gold with seas and they do all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>It's could have been you, and it couldn't be next time,

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<v Speaker 1>any situation, this could be you. So you want you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be pro and not say we say this,

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<v Speaker 1>this work that we do. We see this all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>their mothers, who even who lose their child and police

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<v Speaker 1>violence to just regular violence, and what we say is unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>you become a part of this club, and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of active mothers who based on the reality

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<v Speaker 1>that did something happened to their children, they would force

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<v Speaker 1>into being in this life. And what we say all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, don't wait until it's your child, right, don't

1:13:59.720 --> 1:14:01.680
<v Speaker 1>don't wait till it's your child to be on the

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<v Speaker 1>front lines and standing up because that that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna take to prevent it. Right. We want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in front of it. We want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't happen to somebody else. So we need you

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that before something happened to your child,

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the proactive mode. Active. Yeah, I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. It's it's always we're always reactive, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's when you have to stay in and

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<v Speaker 1>you have families that it's like, Yo, this is happening

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<v Speaker 1>to me now, I can't believe this is me. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>guess what, you could have done something about it. You

1:14:34.800 --> 1:14:37.519
<v Speaker 1>could have done something to prevent them, right, right in

1:14:37.640 --> 1:14:42.080
<v Speaker 1>that you fight in preparation, right and and hopefully as

1:14:42.080 --> 1:14:45.800
<v Speaker 1>a preventive measure. And I think that I think that

1:14:45.880 --> 1:14:48.280
<v Speaker 1>in this situation and I know, um, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to end this interview. We can sit here and

1:14:50.400 --> 1:14:56.679
<v Speaker 1>talk all night. Yeah. But I think in this situation, again,

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<v Speaker 1>while I want to see the same thing you said myself,

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't even thought about that, that all the players

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<v Speaker 1>coming together physically, physically getting together and making a statement

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<v Speaker 1>for Brittany. I think that would be extremely powerful. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's something we need to suggest. Um. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that can be orchestrated by individuals who have

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<v Speaker 1>influence and power. And I think they have to take

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<v Speaker 1>it seriously that it can't if it if the playoffs

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<v Speaker 1>was when was that? That was just it was a

1:15:26.040 --> 1:15:31.639
<v Speaker 1>month ago. So they there's there's a refresher needed now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a refresher. Can't let people forget we need the

1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:38.320
<v Speaker 1>influence of these big names. But what I will say

1:15:38.400 --> 1:15:41.880
<v Speaker 1>is again you still need to lean in on those

1:15:41.920 --> 1:15:49.080
<v Speaker 1>people who have power and resources within That's what we

1:15:49.800 --> 1:15:54.599
<v Speaker 1>do it when they see the top players that saying, hey,

1:15:54.880 --> 1:15:58.559
<v Speaker 1>we need this to get done, but we're not coming. Well,

1:15:58.880 --> 1:16:02.080
<v Speaker 1>is there still a Russian NBA player in there? A

1:16:02.120 --> 1:16:07.200
<v Speaker 1>guy who's super tall that's from us? Pretty sure? Yeah,

1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know his last name. But because I think

1:16:10.040 --> 1:16:12.240
<v Speaker 1>as far as athletes, I've just seen the other day.

1:16:12.320 --> 1:16:15.680
<v Speaker 1>The only I've seen Roy Jones actually reached out to

1:16:15.680 --> 1:16:17.920
<v Speaker 1>some people that he knew in Russia. I was like, yeo,

1:16:18.040 --> 1:16:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Roy Jones just came out of the blue, right, That's

1:16:20.200 --> 1:16:23.799
<v Speaker 1>that's amazing, that's how who's so much love and appreciate it. Um.

1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:26.080
<v Speaker 1>But he actually, I know I heard that he reached

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<v Speaker 1>out to some people in Russian that he knew to

1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:32.960
<v Speaker 1>try to help up. Yeah, so that's what we need action. Action,

1:16:33.360 --> 1:16:36.600
<v Speaker 1>We need action, and sometimes it takes us the agitated.

1:16:36.720 --> 1:16:38.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, we get on everybody's nerves because we always

1:16:38.880 --> 1:16:41.439
<v Speaker 1>got something to say, and we always took about who

1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:44.559
<v Speaker 1>needs to do what? You shut up? Like why y'all

1:16:44.560 --> 1:16:47.280
<v Speaker 1>always went But this is our job and it doesn't

1:16:47.280 --> 1:16:50.479
<v Speaker 1>get us like and nobody's gonna invite us to uh

1:16:50.520 --> 1:16:53.800
<v Speaker 1>sit courtside at the games as a result of of

1:16:53.840 --> 1:16:57.439
<v Speaker 1>what we're saying. But we sacrifice that and it's okay.

1:16:57.720 --> 1:17:01.840
<v Speaker 1>It's okay because somebody's gotta push the envelope and that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we're here to do. We've made that commitment to Cherrell,

1:17:05.280 --> 1:17:08.879
<v Speaker 1>to you, um and and you know, without speaking to Brittany,

1:17:08.880 --> 1:17:12.439
<v Speaker 1>we're making that commitment to her that we're not going

1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:16.120
<v Speaker 1>to let a week go by where where she's not

1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:19.599
<v Speaker 1>talked about, where there's not some action where we did

1:17:19.720 --> 1:17:23.280
<v Speaker 1>our prayer visual the other day. There's several media stories

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<v Speaker 1>now about a prayer visual that took place outside of

1:17:26.439 --> 1:17:29.960
<v Speaker 1>the Russian Russian consulate and that was the goal. That

1:17:30.000 --> 1:17:32.400
<v Speaker 1>was the goal. And we didn't go to the Russian

1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Consulate with the protests and you know, the yelling and

1:17:36.200 --> 1:17:38.639
<v Speaker 1>the things that we do, the chanting if you will,

1:17:38.960 --> 1:17:40.920
<v Speaker 1>we do that, We definitely do that, and we do

1:17:41.040 --> 1:17:45.400
<v Speaker 1>that well. But instead we went there with an interfaith

1:17:45.840 --> 1:17:49.280
<v Speaker 1>group of clergy. So this is not it was not

1:17:49.439 --> 1:17:52.479
<v Speaker 1>just you know, the black per the black preachers, which

1:17:52.520 --> 1:17:55.559
<v Speaker 1>in its in and of itself is power. It was not.

1:17:56.120 --> 1:18:00.599
<v Speaker 1>There was a rabbi there, there were nondenominational boats there,

1:18:00.800 --> 1:18:04.439
<v Speaker 1>there were white people who prayed, black people, brown people,

1:18:04.680 --> 1:18:08.680
<v Speaker 1>and we all came together to pray not just for Brittany,

1:18:08.720 --> 1:18:11.880
<v Speaker 1>not just even for your your your family, but to

1:18:12.000 --> 1:18:16.000
<v Speaker 1>pray for the minds and hearts of those individuals who

1:18:16.080 --> 1:18:18.839
<v Speaker 1>have the power on the Russian side that we're praying

1:18:18.880 --> 1:18:22.360
<v Speaker 1>for you to move your spirit as well. And as

1:18:22.560 --> 1:18:28.000
<v Speaker 1>uh Bishop Daughtry ninety years old, still showing up, and

1:18:28.080 --> 1:18:31.040
<v Speaker 1>he came out for Brittney Grinder. What he said in

1:18:31.160 --> 1:18:35.120
<v Speaker 1>his prayer was so powerful. He said, do the compassionate thing,

1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:38.519
<v Speaker 1>do the right thing, lead with love, and that's what

1:18:38.640 --> 1:18:41.559
<v Speaker 1>we hope happens for Britney Grinder. But I promise you

1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:44.439
<v Speaker 1>one thing about it, and my son knows it. When

1:18:44.479 --> 1:18:47.639
<v Speaker 1>I decide that I'm going to get involved in something,

1:18:47.920 --> 1:18:50.800
<v Speaker 1>I will not shut up. I'm gonna annoy you at

1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:53.840
<v Speaker 1>least at least if nothing else, I will annoy you,

1:18:54.080 --> 1:18:57.160
<v Speaker 1>and to the point like you gotta do something because

1:18:57.200 --> 1:19:00.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm annoyed. And that's okay. So thank you to listen.

1:19:00.920 --> 1:19:04.400
<v Speaker 1>It's powerful, Thank you. I appreciate your support so so much,

1:19:04.439 --> 1:19:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially with us being able to talk and

1:19:06.880 --> 1:19:09.280
<v Speaker 1>get in the stand with you all, it's been powerful

1:19:09.320 --> 1:19:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to me. You know. It's it's uplifting when you have

1:19:11.720 --> 1:19:14.120
<v Speaker 1>such powerful people and strong people that you know that

1:19:14.200 --> 1:19:16.240
<v Speaker 1>we're all in it for the same thing. There's no games,

1:19:16.280 --> 1:19:18.439
<v Speaker 1>there's no Giftecks behind it. We're all in it for

1:19:18.560 --> 1:19:22.160
<v Speaker 1>the right things. So I appreciatepciate we're here for you.

1:19:22.960 --> 1:19:26.160
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you all so much. Thank you. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, Janelle and Charrelle, very very um kind,

1:19:39.160 --> 1:19:43.920
<v Speaker 1>beautiful black women. Uh, you could tell these folks their

1:19:44.000 --> 1:19:48.000
<v Speaker 1>whole the whole lot of life, everything, everything about what

1:19:48.080 --> 1:19:51.480
<v Speaker 1>they know has been disrupted. You know. By this situation,

1:19:51.960 --> 1:19:57.160
<v Speaker 1>you have Charrelle who is working on UM passing the bar.

1:19:58.360 --> 1:20:01.759
<v Speaker 1>You have Janelle, who's taking care of her two beds.

1:20:02.360 --> 1:20:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's these folks are like going along with

1:20:05.120 --> 1:20:08.559
<v Speaker 1>their regular life with their sister and wife who is

1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a superstar traveling the world, and then boom, this happens

1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:16.400
<v Speaker 1>and you find out so much about the system. You

1:20:16.439 --> 1:20:19.880
<v Speaker 1>can't get information, you know, phone calls need to happen

1:20:19.920 --> 1:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>on certain days. There's so much and and and and

1:20:23.040 --> 1:20:25.000
<v Speaker 1>when you think about it, because of the fact that

1:20:25.040 --> 1:20:28.599
<v Speaker 1>they are power, that um Brittany is a public figure,

1:20:29.080 --> 1:20:31.160
<v Speaker 1>we're getting to see it and it's playing out in

1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:35.120
<v Speaker 1>real time. But imagine how many people just right here

1:20:35.160 --> 1:20:39.880
<v Speaker 1>in the USA are dealing with similar circumstances of being

1:20:40.280 --> 1:20:44.040
<v Speaker 1>locked up, not knowing when they're going to court, not

1:20:44.240 --> 1:20:49.080
<v Speaker 1>understanding how to opera navigate in the system, listening to lawyers,

1:20:49.320 --> 1:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to talk to your loved ones. It's really incarceration

1:20:53.160 --> 1:20:56.960
<v Speaker 1>is is It's tough. It is very tough, and I know,

1:20:57.080 --> 1:21:01.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, but I just i'm my goes out because

1:21:01.040 --> 1:21:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what it's like to have your loved one, Because,

1:21:04.000 --> 1:21:07.640
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the US is rough, so imagine you

1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:11.360
<v Speaker 1>all the way in Russia. Yeah, it's it's it has

1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to be. Um just I've been in prison with people

1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>who are Russians, right, who actually were locked up in Russia,

1:21:20.479 --> 1:21:24.559
<v Speaker 1>and they say that prison in America's there's a hundred

1:21:24.600 --> 1:21:28.680
<v Speaker 1>times better than being in Russia, right, So, and I

1:21:28.680 --> 1:21:30.920
<v Speaker 1>can tell just by just the energy, just the way

1:21:30.960 --> 1:21:34.000
<v Speaker 1>that they discipline, things are just different, you know. And

1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:37.320
<v Speaker 1>especially when you're not in the life of crime, when

1:21:37.360 --> 1:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>you're not somebody who's you know, around that. You know,

1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:43.439
<v Speaker 1>you've been a star athlete your whole life and you've

1:21:43.439 --> 1:21:46.519
<v Speaker 1>done things the right way and then unfortunately find yourself

1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>in the situation that puts you in one of the

1:21:48.920 --> 1:21:53.560
<v Speaker 1>most dramatic and drastic situations ever you can even imagine,

1:21:53.760 --> 1:21:55.760
<v Speaker 1>you know. So the level of trauma that she's dealing with,

1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:59.439
<v Speaker 1>it's just unimaginable. Man. I just I'm just hoping that

1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:02.960
<v Speaker 1>it gets x. You know, my prayers go out to

1:22:03.000 --> 1:22:06.040
<v Speaker 1>her wife and Janelle. I haven't had the pleasure of

1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:10.200
<v Speaker 1>meeting or speaking to Chanelle. But this Jenelle's energy alone

1:22:11.280 --> 1:22:15.559
<v Speaker 1>is it's just beautiful. Man. Just knowing so when knowing

1:22:15.600 --> 1:22:18.040
<v Speaker 1>that she had these types of people around her, just

1:22:18.200 --> 1:22:21.719
<v Speaker 1>that gives you a understanding of who she is. Yeah,

1:22:23.400 --> 1:22:26.080
<v Speaker 1>and just I love her as a basketball player, love

1:22:26.120 --> 1:22:29.439
<v Speaker 1>her spirit, everything about her. It's just dope. So you know,

1:22:29.840 --> 1:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>my prayers definitely go out and I'm hoping that she

1:22:32.680 --> 1:22:35.960
<v Speaker 1>get a speedy return. You know, one thing that we

1:22:36.000 --> 1:22:38.760
<v Speaker 1>didn't get to discuss with Janelle, and I wish she

1:22:38.920 --> 1:22:41.520
<v Speaker 1>was still here. She said that, you know, they're concerned

1:22:41.560 --> 1:22:47.880
<v Speaker 1>about who they will get back once is returned, who

1:22:48.040 --> 1:22:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they will get back because mentally we already know. We

1:22:51.439 --> 1:22:56.360
<v Speaker 1>always talk about what incarceration does to the mind. Imagine

1:22:56.680 --> 1:22:59.960
<v Speaker 1>what it does to you in Russia again, unable to

1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:03.120
<v Speaker 1>communicate with your family. We don't know what she'll be

1:23:03.160 --> 1:23:06.360
<v Speaker 1>like when she returns um and that is something that

1:23:06.439 --> 1:23:10.120
<v Speaker 1>I hope that all the parties involved takes into consideration

1:23:10.640 --> 1:23:14.080
<v Speaker 1>that we do not want this thing that has happened

1:23:14.240 --> 1:23:18.519
<v Speaker 1>to to damage this woman for the rest of her life.

1:23:19.120 --> 1:23:24.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, and I don't

1:23:24.439 --> 1:23:30.480
<v Speaker 1>think we as activists, organizers, leaders can allow our brethren

1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:35.400
<v Speaker 1>who we love and we celebrate, but those individuals who

1:23:35.479 --> 1:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>play for the NBA, we can't allow them off the

1:23:38.360 --> 1:23:41.000
<v Speaker 1>hook with this. We have to make sure that they

1:23:41.040 --> 1:23:44.200
<v Speaker 1>get uncomfortable and that they are just as annoying as

1:23:44.240 --> 1:23:46.439
<v Speaker 1>I talked about, and we got to stay on them.

1:23:46.479 --> 1:23:49.920
<v Speaker 1>So from my perspective, I've already decided I'm going to

1:23:50.000 --> 1:23:55.799
<v Speaker 1>be them and on a daily basis everything I'm dam texting,

1:23:56.320 --> 1:23:59.720
<v Speaker 1>calling we need help, we need help. And I know

1:23:59.800 --> 1:24:03.559
<v Speaker 1>what happens is that their agents are going to tell them, oh, no,

1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>we we heard, it's being worked on. It's being worked on.

1:24:07.600 --> 1:24:12.240
<v Speaker 1>But but very similar to what Congresswoman Lee said to

1:24:12.280 --> 1:24:17.680
<v Speaker 1>me on yesterday that Trevor Read's family, they were in

1:24:17.760 --> 1:24:21.879
<v Speaker 1>the streets, they were on the phone, they were making

1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:28.080
<v Speaker 1>it uncomfortable for the administration so that the administration would

1:24:28.160 --> 1:24:31.160
<v Speaker 1>make it on, make themselves uncomfortable and getting work done.

1:24:31.560 --> 1:24:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't We've not seen, I asked. I asked Attorney

1:24:34.560 --> 1:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Crump about then there said, Hey, what do you really

1:24:36.960 --> 1:24:40.200
<v Speaker 1>think the strategy is on grind? Do you think that

1:24:40.240 --> 1:24:42.960
<v Speaker 1>we should be out here? You know? And and how

1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:44.680
<v Speaker 1>loud do you think we should be out and I

1:24:45.280 --> 1:24:48.200
<v Speaker 1>do ask people. You know, you may not think so,

1:24:48.320 --> 1:24:54.360
<v Speaker 1>but I do. And he said that he's never seen

1:24:54.400 --> 1:24:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a situation where in this country the silent ones got

1:24:58.800 --> 1:25:03.800
<v Speaker 1>anything those who cried, And you know, he reminded me

1:25:04.439 --> 1:25:09.040
<v Speaker 1>of that quote where Frederick Douglas says power conceives nothing

1:25:09.080 --> 1:25:14.880
<v Speaker 1>without a demand, and that that pretty much grinds that up. Man,

1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:19.479
<v Speaker 1>No no pun intended. Yeah, you know, but shouts out

1:25:20.040 --> 1:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>to um Janelle for coming on on our show and

1:25:25.080 --> 1:25:28.519
<v Speaker 1>just to love the love that she has for her

1:25:28.600 --> 1:25:31.479
<v Speaker 1>and her wife has for her. It's just different that

1:25:31.520 --> 1:25:33.840
<v Speaker 1>brings me to my um. I don't get it right.

1:25:39.920 --> 1:25:42.759
<v Speaker 1>I was I post, actually posted something on my page

1:25:42.800 --> 1:25:47.400
<v Speaker 1>today from Jazz Watch Jazz and and she was just

1:25:47.560 --> 1:25:53.439
<v Speaker 1>talking about her willingness to be quote unquote submissive. And

1:25:53.479 --> 1:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I know it's like a negative connotation that's attached to it,

1:25:57.000 --> 1:26:00.360
<v Speaker 1>but it was so profound and the fact way that

1:26:00.439 --> 1:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>she broke down what submissive was to her and how

1:26:04.960 --> 1:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>it brought her joy, right, And she was just explaining

1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:11.800
<v Speaker 1>how catering to her man and doing all these things

1:26:11.840 --> 1:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>for her man made her happy. It brought her levels

1:26:15.080 --> 1:26:19.800
<v Speaker 1>of joy and what I didn't get was why that

1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:25.559
<v Speaker 1>bothered somebody else? Right, Because how I love somebody or

1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:29.120
<v Speaker 1>how somebody loves whatever that goes on with somebody in

1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:34.680
<v Speaker 1>their relationship. I don't understand why that would bother other people, Right,

1:26:34.680 --> 1:26:37.519
<v Speaker 1>Because if I get joy from loving my woman or

1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:39.320
<v Speaker 1>this and that a certain way, or I go to

1:26:39.360 --> 1:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the movies, I like to watch the movies every day,

1:26:41.520 --> 1:26:43.679
<v Speaker 1>and this is what I do. This is my happy place.

1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Why would it bother somebody else? Why do why people

1:26:47.880 --> 1:26:51.240
<v Speaker 1>triggered by what makes somebody else happy? And people like, oh,

1:26:51.320 --> 1:26:53.439
<v Speaker 1>she shouldn't do Why shouldn't if this is what brings

1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:56.040
<v Speaker 1>her joy? I don't think. I think what people miss

1:26:56.439 --> 1:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>in it. You know when I when I listened to

1:26:58.640 --> 1:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>it was the fact that she did it for her, Right,

1:27:02.920 --> 1:27:04.800
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't you know, I'm doing it for him, and

1:27:04.840 --> 1:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>he's using me and this and that. It's like being

1:27:07.120 --> 1:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>and I And I used the example about a man

1:27:10.040 --> 1:27:12.240
<v Speaker 1>who might spoil his woman and buy her a bunch

1:27:12.240 --> 1:27:15.639
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Right, if you're buying that woman things because

1:27:16.200 --> 1:27:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you want sex from her, or you want to make

1:27:19.960 --> 1:27:25.240
<v Speaker 1>her feel a way about you that she doesn't already feel,

1:27:25.360 --> 1:27:28.280
<v Speaker 1>or if you're not doing it genuinely because Yo, I like,

1:27:28.360 --> 1:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>I thought about her and this would be nice for her.

1:27:30.720 --> 1:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to take it here because I enjoy her

1:27:32.439 --> 1:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>company and I want to spend time with her. If

1:27:35.040 --> 1:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>you're doing things because you're you're trying to do it

1:27:38.320 --> 1:27:41.120
<v Speaker 1>for somebody else, then you're doing it for the wrong reasons.

1:27:41.160 --> 1:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And I think that the way that she spoke about love,

1:27:44.479 --> 1:27:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it was more pertinent to what made her. She said,

1:27:47.040 --> 1:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>my superpower is love, and she and she made a

1:27:50.000 --> 1:27:52.960
<v Speaker 1>quote that was so dope to me. She said, I

1:27:53.000 --> 1:27:56.720
<v Speaker 1>can love a man back to health, right, And and

1:27:56.760 --> 1:28:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that for me is so dynamic, right Because in relationships

1:28:01.680 --> 1:28:04.120
<v Speaker 1>people say it's given take. Sometimes it is given take.

1:28:04.439 --> 1:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>But in relationships sometimes it might be eight twenty. Some

1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.519
<v Speaker 1>people might be able to provide eighty to somebody else's twenty.

1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:14.559
<v Speaker 1>That makes a hundred. Some people might provide thirty to

1:28:14.640 --> 1:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>somebody else's seventy and it makes a hundred. But that's

1:28:17.160 --> 1:28:20.400
<v Speaker 1>the dynamic for those individuals. So what I don't get

1:28:20.760 --> 1:28:24.880
<v Speaker 1>is why people are triggered by what makes somebody else happy.

1:28:24.960 --> 1:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>So do you think that seventy thirty consistently is okay?

1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:33.360
<v Speaker 1>If it's a dynamic for relationship. What I'm trying to say,

1:28:34.120 --> 1:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm asking you, do you believe that at some point

1:28:36.880 --> 1:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>that seventy thirty flips or they do have moments of

1:28:40.200 --> 1:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>fifty fifty? Do you think that it's okay for a

1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:47.080
<v Speaker 1>person to give seventy all the time and the other

1:28:47.160 --> 1:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>person only gives thirty or eight twenty. I'm just I'm

1:28:50.920 --> 1:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>asking you. I'm not asking you if it's if I'm

1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>gonna answer, do you believe that it's okay? Like if

1:28:58.760 --> 1:29:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you as a man, right and you're giving all the time? Right?

1:29:03.680 --> 1:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Because because in my last relationship, I didn't have the

1:29:08.160 --> 1:29:12.439
<v Speaker 1>financial means to do the things that he was able

1:29:12.479 --> 1:29:15.120
<v Speaker 1>to do for me. He could. He put me on

1:29:15.320 --> 1:29:21.439
<v Speaker 1>right jets, he bought me diamonds, things that I could

1:29:21.439 --> 1:29:24.719
<v Speaker 1>not afford to do for him. So that would be

1:29:24.920 --> 1:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>an eight twenty ship at sometimes at some point it

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<v Speaker 1>might be a ninety ten, right, because I I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have that money. I couldn't If I wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>out to eat lobster every night, he could afford that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it was just me by myself, I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>afford that, So that would be a ninety ten. That's consistent.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I did do was found out what his

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<v Speaker 1>favorite meal was and made sure that I cooked it.

1:29:48.880 --> 1:29:51.800
<v Speaker 1>What I did do was find out, like, what things

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<v Speaker 1>does he need? How do I change the socks in

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<v Speaker 1>the drawer every six months? Because this is a person

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<v Speaker 1>that works out and I know that he needs that.

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<v Speaker 1>What I did do was figure out what how he

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<v Speaker 1>does he like his Sunday to be right. I made

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<v Speaker 1>sure his newspapers got delivered. I made sure that on

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<v Speaker 1>certain days he had the desserts and things that he liked.

1:30:13.920 --> 1:30:19.280
<v Speaker 1>I kept myself together physically. I did not run around lying,

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<v Speaker 1>cheating and being abusive and doing things to him that

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<v Speaker 1>hurt him. Right. So that was my ninety back. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think what triggers people which they shouldn't be. They

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<v Speaker 1>should not be triggered in any way, shape or formed

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody else's situation, because I'm not driggering right at all.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I will say is the triggering that is

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<v Speaker 1>that's coming up for most people is one day've never

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<v Speaker 1>learned how to love the way that she speaks. They

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<v Speaker 1>never learned that, right, That's just not their situation. But

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<v Speaker 1>the other piece I think that gets sort of left

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<v Speaker 1>out is that a lot of people are triggered because

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<v Speaker 1>they've never had anybody that deserved to be loved in

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<v Speaker 1>that way that the words submits. Not. But that's but

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<v Speaker 1>that's That's what I'm trying to explain to you. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you listen to when I listened to it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it was her decision right to love that person. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't listen to what I'm saying, No, But but I

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<v Speaker 1>just need to be able to say this because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I know, but I just cannot just I'm asking

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<v Speaker 1>for the pretty opportunity today to cut you off even

1:31:30.439 --> 1:31:36.280
<v Speaker 1>though way better better, but I don't know because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't listen to the full interview if she ever talks

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<v Speaker 1>about her expectations. Right. What I'm saying to you is

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<v Speaker 1>that the way that the man that I was with

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<v Speaker 1>show his love for me right, um was was and

1:31:53.320 --> 1:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it's not just buying things. He also was an experienced person.

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<v Speaker 1>Wake up on a Saturday morning, let's do this today, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This is the type of person that he was. If

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<v Speaker 1>I kept a nasty house, cheated and light all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do anything back to show him that he was special,

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<v Speaker 1>and he still I don't believe that he still would

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<v Speaker 1>have continued to do this just because this is the

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<v Speaker 1>type of person he is. I think that in every

1:32:18.240 --> 1:32:21.960
<v Speaker 1>situation is given take you make somebody. You bring out

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<v Speaker 1>of people a feeling that they want to keep going

1:32:25.080 --> 1:32:29.120
<v Speaker 1>hard for you. You can't beat people down or mistreat

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<v Speaker 1>them and or be nothing and didn't have the same

1:32:33.120 --> 1:32:36.960
<v Speaker 1>expectation of them to keep showing up. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that part of the discussion from her if

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<v Speaker 1>she was right. And I hear what you're saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we I think I see why you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like women are triggered by the situation. But what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>explaining to you is right when you lead a certain way,

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<v Speaker 1>right Like it's like this, I got a friend. My

1:32:58.840 --> 1:33:02.960
<v Speaker 1>friend never gave me nothing. He can't give me nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>right boom. He I know he's hungry. Y'all, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>come to my house. I feed you, I take care

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<v Speaker 1>of you. I do all the ship for you. Boom.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't expect you to be able to do anything

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Right I'm doing I'm literally doing this because

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<v Speaker 1>I see you as my friend. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you see me. I don't even know if you're able.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you're able to give me

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<v Speaker 1>back the love that I can get. But but but

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<v Speaker 1>my superpower is that I love a certain way. And

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<v Speaker 1>if I call you, if I made a decision that

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<v Speaker 1>you're my friend, you're gonna get this love. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you do ship that that But listen, but listen to

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm can You can't keep cutting me off because

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<v Speaker 1>that way right. So what I'm trying to say is,

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<v Speaker 1>as my friend, you're gonna get this love. In the

1:33:46.560 --> 1:33:49.360
<v Speaker 1>minute that I feel like you don't deserve it, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not gonna be angry. I'm not none

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<v Speaker 1>of this. I'm able to separate myself from a situation

1:33:56.080 --> 1:33:59.679
<v Speaker 1>and move on because I didn't do anything for you.

1:34:00.280 --> 1:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't. I didn't be me. I'm not

1:34:02.360 --> 1:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>being me for you. I'm being me for me. Right,

1:34:05.479 --> 1:34:07.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be the same friend to anybody that I

1:34:07.560 --> 1:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>call a friend. Now, if you fuck if you fuck

1:34:10.240 --> 1:34:12.720
<v Speaker 1>that up, that's when you don't. It don't reflect me.

1:34:12.800 --> 1:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not stupid because I did you that I that

1:34:15.720 --> 1:34:18.439
<v Speaker 1>made me feel comfortable that I do for friends in

1:34:18.520 --> 1:34:21.080
<v Speaker 1>my friendship. So what I'm trying to say is, oh,

1:34:21.280 --> 1:34:23.960
<v Speaker 1>but what is he doing It don't matter whatever he's

1:34:24.000 --> 1:34:25.600
<v Speaker 1>doing for me. If I call on my friend and

1:34:25.640 --> 1:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm still doing it, it's enough for me. Right. He

1:34:28.040 --> 1:34:29.720
<v Speaker 1>might not be doing it. He might just make a

1:34:29.760 --> 1:34:31.519
<v Speaker 1>phone call every day and check up on me. You're

1:34:31.560 --> 1:34:34.160
<v Speaker 1>good one, I just talk. That's all he might be doing.

1:34:34.479 --> 1:34:36.559
<v Speaker 1>And that might be enough for me to give him

1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>everything that I want to give, because that's what if

1:34:39.400 --> 1:34:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I've required from him in my relationship. And I don't disagree.

1:34:43.120 --> 1:34:45.479
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's what I'm saying that because I

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<v Speaker 1>show up in all my friendships and relationships a certain

1:34:49.080 --> 1:34:53.120
<v Speaker 1>way as a very giving person. Right, I'm very I'm

1:34:53.160 --> 1:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>always trying to help people figure things out. I'm always

1:34:55.760 --> 1:34:58.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to set people up in the best situation possible

1:34:58.880 --> 1:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>based upon my um my access and whatever. So I

1:35:04.360 --> 1:35:06.960
<v Speaker 1>don't disagree with you, and I don't change, right, I

1:35:07.040 --> 1:35:11.720
<v Speaker 1>remain the same. But I do understand people who are

1:35:12.720 --> 1:35:16.479
<v Speaker 1>triggered and and I understand family members of mind that

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<v Speaker 1>will come to me and be like, you need to

1:35:18.479 --> 1:35:21.479
<v Speaker 1>be careful, Like you give so much, you know who

1:35:21.560 --> 1:35:24.760
<v Speaker 1>gives to you? Are you? Are you sure that you

1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:29.160
<v Speaker 1>are invested in somebody that is invested in you? And

1:35:29.200 --> 1:35:32.759
<v Speaker 1>I do have a criteria for being able to measure

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<v Speaker 1>when I'm doing more than I should and should, whether

1:35:37.560 --> 1:35:41.599
<v Speaker 1>someone somebody else being bothered by you being happy or

1:35:41.720 --> 1:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>or or looking at the situation that you're happy and

1:35:45.120 --> 1:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>telling you that you shouldn't be happy in that it

1:35:47.360 --> 1:35:49.240
<v Speaker 1>is the most weirdest ship in the world. To me,

1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>it really doesn't make sense. It is the wet No,

1:35:54.320 --> 1:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it's no, I want to say it this way. It

1:35:56.200 --> 1:35:59.479
<v Speaker 1>is the most weird. It is the most weirdest ship

1:35:59.479 --> 1:36:02.160
<v Speaker 1>in the world. Like what you eat don't make me ship.

1:36:02.200 --> 1:36:04.760
<v Speaker 1>It's it's people in relationship. Just like when you look

1:36:04.760 --> 1:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>at Will and j the people want to tell those

1:36:06.720 --> 1:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>people down. Their relationship has outlasted most of the people

1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:14.200
<v Speaker 1>who are talking about their relationship in any relationship they

1:36:14.240 --> 1:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>had twenty eight years. And if people was mad, oh,

1:36:17.040 --> 1:36:20.719
<v Speaker 1>she's toxic, he's this he should why that man? Don't

1:36:20.760 --> 1:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>think that about this woman? That man it will he

1:36:23.240 --> 1:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>love our dirty drawers. And because it don't fit the

1:36:26.160 --> 1:36:29.800
<v Speaker 1>criteria for what you quote relationship you have, you think

1:36:29.880 --> 1:36:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that you should be angry about the fact that he

1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:34.599
<v Speaker 1>loves this woman and they love each other, how they

1:36:34.600 --> 1:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>love each other, And to me, I think that right

1:36:37.360 --> 1:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>there is just what what what is detrimental in society

1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that people are so worried about other people and how

1:36:44.479 --> 1:36:47.800
<v Speaker 1>they feel and how they feel about what they're doing.

1:36:47.880 --> 1:36:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't give a damn about what somebody thinks about

1:36:50.240 --> 1:36:53.160
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing. It don't matter to me, you know.

1:36:53.240 --> 1:36:55.760
<v Speaker 1>And and it's just like for me, is listening to

1:36:55.800 --> 1:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>that woman she found she seemed like she was enjoy

1:36:58.800 --> 1:37:01.479
<v Speaker 1>talking about whatever she was talking about. She looked like

1:37:01.520 --> 1:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>she was lightening up, she was happy, this is my

1:37:03.760 --> 1:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>super power. And Pete, why would somebody want to criticize

1:37:06.960 --> 1:37:09.160
<v Speaker 1>that or make her feel like she was wrong for

1:37:09.200 --> 1:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>loving how she loves? And that's just weird to me.

1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:14.280
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I don't get it. Maybe somebody else

1:37:14.280 --> 1:37:19.240
<v Speaker 1>will get it, and that's that. But with that said,

1:37:19.880 --> 1:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not gonna always be right, Tamika, Mary

1:37:24.200 --> 1:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>is not gonna always be wrong, and we're gonna debate

1:37:26.080 --> 1:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>our ass off because we both think we're right, but

1:37:29.240 --> 1:37:33.080
<v Speaker 1>we will both always and I mean always be authentic.

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