Speaker 1: Welcome in What Drip with Nick Wright, Episode three seventy nine.
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Speaker 1: big day we have. We're gonna be doing our gambling
Speaker 1: show later today that you guys will hear tomorrow. We
Speaker 1: have a ton to do today. It is also my
Speaker 1: wife and Demons's mother's birthday, so we are going to
Speaker 1: try to be as efficient with our time as possible
Speaker 1: because Pal, I'm a little behind on some of the
Speaker 1: birthday stuff and the birthday is today, so there might
Speaker 1: be some wrapping that needs to be done, purchasing that
Speaker 1: needs to be done. There Did I did I just
Speaker 1: moments ago secure the cake? It's possible. Did you hear
Speaker 1: me on the phone to make sure? Yeah? No, No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a social media post. It was a cake
Speaker 1: for your mother's birthday, and you know how old is
Speaker 1: your mother today? There's no way to tell, and so
Speaker 1: the yeah uh and so no, there's no way to tell.
Speaker 1: You don't believe it or not, demon's you don't know.
Speaker 1: And so there is just a lot we need to do,
Speaker 1: which is why I expected today to be a very
Speaker 1: efficient bang bang bang bang bang. And then the producers
Speaker 1: just chummed the waters reminding me about some ofpal Bill
Speaker 1: Simmons and the Ringer's latest rankings, and I cannot stay away.
Speaker 1: So before we even get to straight to voicemail brought
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Speaker 1: things as quickly as I am able to. So the
Speaker 1: latest Ringer Top one hundred came out and Bron is
Speaker 1: outside the top ten, and on he's eleven, And on
Speaker 1: its face, I don't actually that is within the range
Speaker 1: of what is you know, in my opinion, an acceptable ranking.
Speaker 1: But it is what kills me is who is number ten?
Speaker 1: So let me make sure I have this right. And
Speaker 1: this is a little frustrating to me, and I think
Speaker 1: it's fair. So eleven is Bron? Number ten is durant?
Speaker 2: I knew it didn't. I didn't even see the list.
Speaker 2: I swear I didn't even see the list.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: There's just no argument that he's better, and there's no
Speaker 1: argument that he's more available. There's no argument that he's
Speaker 1: more durable or reliable. So and by the way, Steph
Speaker 1: was seven. I I don't think I I think Bron
Speaker 1: is still better than Steph. That at least, though intelligent
Speaker 1: people can disagree like all that that that is a
Speaker 1: debatable point. I don't get why like people are like, well,
Speaker 1: Bron's forty, Durant's old too, and Durant misses way more
Speaker 1: time and and so I just that that that just
Speaker 1: on its and this is not a shot at Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: He is if he, Steph and Bron are all rewriting
Speaker 1: what is really stick for old guys in this league
Speaker 1: to do? But it is I don't get why Durant
Speaker 1: and I think this is a good that because you
Speaker 1: can do and this is a great interactive They do
Speaker 1: a really good job with these the visual pieces of
Speaker 1: these articles. But Durant ended last season fourteenth. I don't
Speaker 1: know why you've jumped at what happened where he jumps
Speaker 1: to ten. I just don't. I don't I don't get it,
Speaker 1: and again, I think Durant is unbelievable. The Rockets might
Speaker 1: be my pick to win the championship this year. This
Speaker 1: is I am not trying to beef with Durant. I
Speaker 1: just were yet to have the moment, certainly yet to
Speaker 1: have the moment post Golden State, where there is a
Speaker 1: credible evidence or even eye to based argument that Durant's better.
Speaker 1: So that's a little frustrating. The other thing they put
Speaker 1: in there was a quote from Bill where he said,
Speaker 1: if the Nuggets win the title and he wins MVP, again,
Speaker 1: I assume again I haven't listened to this. I've been
Speaker 1: so in football mode. I don't think he means finals MVP.
Speaker 1: He means regular season MVP. He's indisputably one of the
Speaker 1: ten best players ever, and so I don't think that
Speaker 1: he being Jokic is what. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: said that on the front end, I don't think that
Speaker 1: is necessarily even an incorrect take. It just though, does
Speaker 1: bear mentioning, because as you guys know, I am the
Speaker 1: self appointed czar of top tens, having to have ten
Speaker 1: people in them. If you are arguing that if they
Speaker 1: win this title, they being Denver Joker is top ten,
Speaker 1: then you are arguing three of the following people are not. Okay,
Speaker 1: bron Kareem, Michael, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, Bird, Dream, Shaq, Steph.
Speaker 1: That is I think a pretty universally agreed upon top twelve,
Speaker 1: with respect to Jerry and Oscar and Hell, if we
Speaker 1: want to go super old school Mike in and with
Speaker 1: respect to Doctor j and Moses and whomever, that's the
Speaker 1: top twelve. So if Joker wins, I think most people
Speaker 1: are gonna say Dream is out if he's if he's
Speaker 1: in or not, so there, that's the easiest one to
Speaker 1: take out. I think Bill might say Wilt is out.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but I think Bill maybe would. And then
Speaker 1: then it gets a little tricky, which is who is
Speaker 1: If we're just saying Dream and Wilt are the easy outs,
Speaker 1: which and again I think Wilt's the sixth gradest player ever,
Speaker 1: but you're taking out Kobe, Bird, Shack, Steph. I don't know.
Speaker 1: So four MVPs, which is what it would be for Joker,
Speaker 1: and two rings would And by the way, I didn't
Speaker 1: excuse me when I said that's not including it, it's
Speaker 1: not including Durant I didn't even think about that, But
Speaker 1: Durant's not in the top ten. It is top tens
Speaker 1: are gonna get really prickly for people if let's say
Speaker 1: this hypothetical happens and Joker all of a sudden has
Speaker 1: multiple rings and four MVPs and has kind of elbowed
Speaker 1: his way in there, because it's not gonna be as
Speaker 1: simple as okay, we're just dropping dream who By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't have as twelfth, I have his tenth. I
Speaker 1: the list I gave you guys was the order of
Speaker 1: my one through twelve. But is Joker better than Shack?
Speaker 1: I that's it. That's a tough sell. Maybe like it's
Speaker 1: it is. Do we think he's already better than Steph?
Speaker 1: I don't with one more ring? Maybe it's the there
Speaker 1: you're going what's going to become popular demons in ten
Speaker 1: years are all time top tens that do not include
Speaker 1: Kobe or Bird And that is hard for me to
Speaker 1: wrap my mind around. But I've got Kobe eight, Bird nine,
Speaker 1: and that's with them ahead of Steph, Shack, Joker. I
Speaker 1: know some people disagree with it, So it's just that's.
Speaker 2: That's the most complete NBA players I've seen. I think
Speaker 2: he has everything. I do think he's probably going to
Speaker 2: sneaking that top ten by the end of everything.
Speaker 1: Well, he is unequivocally, I don't know if I should
Speaker 1: say it's one of the greatest. He's one of the greatest,
Speaker 1: probably five or six offensive players. Ever, I struggle a
Speaker 1: bit with the defense. Yeah, well he gets the no again.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's like some massive liability defensively.
Speaker 3: It's not the but there's some holes on that side now.
Speaker 1: So so Duncan might be the greatest defensive player well
Speaker 1: dream post Russell. Duncan's one of the two greatest defensive
Speaker 1: players post Russell. And to me, Duncan's offense is better
Speaker 1: than Joker's defense obviously, and but offense is worth more
Speaker 1: than defense. It's tricky. It's tricky. I'm not again, I'm
Speaker 1: not here to say that's an outrageous take like Joker
Speaker 1: has earned it. It is also the other thing, just
Speaker 1: real quick that Bill Bill, when he was talking about Giannis,
Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that Yannis has only won eight playoff series,
Speaker 1: which was crazy, like to think about like that he
Speaker 1: did a builded a really good thing where he's talking
Speaker 1: about the you know, all time Playoff series one and
Speaker 1: bron has forty one, Duncan has like thirty five, Kobe
Speaker 1: I think thirty two. Again, this is Bill's thing, not mine.
Speaker 1: But from listening to it, Jordan had I think like
Speaker 1: thirty one, and he mentioned how Giannis has eight. I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, like he won four the year they
Speaker 1: won the titles. Joker has ten. So when we are again,
Speaker 1: this assumes he actually gets to fourteen because he wins
Speaker 1: four more. I have a little allergy too, saying a
Speaker 1: guy who's been passed round two twice ever and now
Speaker 1: it would be three times if they win the title,
Speaker 1: is you know we're gonna bump him ahead of Kobe Bryant,
Speaker 1: who went to seven NBA finals. Like so that that
Speaker 1: part of it just is just reflexively it feels I
Speaker 1: mean Duncan went to six finals. I don't even know
Speaker 1: the conference finals off the top of my head. That
Speaker 1: that part feels wrong. Yeah, but it maybe it's not,
Speaker 1: And so I the I I do think though for Joker,
Speaker 1: he has reached the ceiling he can get to as
Speaker 1: far as where he's ranked aps in another title, like
Speaker 1: wherever he is right now, he winning, he has maxed
Speaker 1: out how high you can climb based on individual accolades,
Speaker 1: like he is as high as a one ring player
Speaker 1: can be. And people can say that's reductive or that's silly,
Speaker 1: that it's not it's totally fair. In the it's just
Speaker 1: totally fair. And the guys are telling me Bill said
Speaker 1: he'd be there with Bird and Magic. I think Bill
Speaker 1: has Magic rated lower than I do. I think Bill has,
Speaker 1: like to me, Magic is in a slight tier above Bird,
Speaker 1: and I think that Bill has Bird and Magic in
Speaker 1: the same tier. But that okay. For a show that
Speaker 1: I said was gonna go really fast, we just spent
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes on something that wasn't even in the rundown,
Speaker 1: So that's great. We haven't even gotten to straight to
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Speaker 1: Brian Branch's one game suspension has been upheld. Lucas scored
Speaker 1: twenty five in his preseason debut, and the Boston Coaches
Speaker 1: beat the Boston media fifty seven to four. They said,
Speaker 1: do you think the What's Right crew could score more
Speaker 1: than four?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I think Demons could hold his own. I
Speaker 1: feel like they go ahead.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'd have like fifteen alone if we I
Speaker 3: don't know what, like quarters.
Speaker 1: They were the problem.
Speaker 3: Because it's the staff, the guys X dogs.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean there's some former pros on the staff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean former and Missoula was a five year D
Speaker 1: one player. The problem would be this what what's that look?
Speaker 3: I mean Joe Mizuela, yea, I would, I would.
Speaker 1: Joe Missoula played a higher than thirty games at West
Speaker 1: Virginia and he was greaty.
Speaker 2: He looked like a gritty guy. But yeah, in these
Speaker 2: days he's probably got the checkers.
Speaker 1: The word here would be the problem for us. We would,
Speaker 1: I honestly think we maybe would need you like to
Speaker 1: come off the bench if we wanted, if we wanted to,
Speaker 1: like if the whole goal was let's get to double
Speaker 1: digits and funnel it through Demanse. I think if we
Speaker 1: just started the game like that, they would just correctly
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, he's doubled at all times. The other
Speaker 1: four idiots got to go four on three and we
Speaker 1: might just be cooked. I feel like I can't prove it,
Speaker 1: but I feel like vic is probably a good athlete.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can prove it.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 1: Dan and Matt are just drawn dead that these are
Speaker 1: the things I know, and so it would really we
Speaker 1: would really need the demands vic two man game to
Speaker 1: be crushing. I don't know I would have met. I
Speaker 1: think Paul's probably fine. But you know Matt, Matt, now
Speaker 1: that he's a big bougie executive, you know, is enjoying
Speaker 1: the spoils of success. And I've seen that. I've seen Daniels,
Speaker 1: I've seen Daniel's Twitter avatar picture. I just don't think
Speaker 1: he's instilling a lot of fear in the opposition. Sorry, Daniel,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not either. For the record, who just
Speaker 1: said we've met? Oh yeah, I know no, Oh, I
Speaker 1: know that, Daniel. But I'm trying to be relatable for
Speaker 1: the audience as well. No, Daniel, he was at the
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Speaker 3: So your chiefs are looking normal again.
Speaker 2: The offense is humming where she Rice is off of
Speaker 2: that six game suspension, Mahomes is saying it's going to
Speaker 2: be hard to keep him off the field. Andy Reid's
Speaker 2: saying that he looks good and he's in shape. Are
Speaker 2: you expecting the Chiefs to kick it into a new
Speaker 2: year with Rashi Rice back? I'm expecting that sixty seventy
Speaker 2: from Holmes in this game.
Speaker 1: Oh you got a little, you got a little. I
Speaker 1: don't have a little taste on four and a half
Speaker 1: or something. I mean, that's that's what that sounded like
Speaker 1: to me. Uh So, here's what I think. I think
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna look excellent. I do want to
Speaker 1: say I don't know what's going on with Josh Simmons.
Speaker 1: It seems to be a serious personal family issue, the
Speaker 1: fact that he left the team abruptly. Andy won't talk
Speaker 1: about it. He referred it to Brett Veach. I I
Speaker 1: have no insight on this, but you know, I would
Speaker 1: not expect him to play this week. Luckily, Jalen Moore
Speaker 1: more than acquitted himself well last week, and I think
Speaker 1: he's fine in the short term. I actually think veteran
Speaker 1: Jalen Moore is probably about as maybe I'm wrong, as
Speaker 1: good as rookie Josh Simmons. Josh Simmons is so exciting
Speaker 1: because as a rookie he's been good and so it's
Speaker 1: about what he's going to be. What I do think
Speaker 1: is the Chiefs are now gonna be able to hit
Speaker 1: every quadrant of the field and Rashi Rice. I think
Speaker 1: people had forgotten what Rashi Rice was doing before he
Speaker 1: got hurt, from the playoffs through the regular season. Once
Speaker 1: he got a hang of it. And I said this
Speaker 1: on the show, I'll say it again, and then I
Speaker 1: want to actually talk about the Lions. I am not
Speaker 1: Rashi Rice is not a conquering hero returning. Okay, Rashie,
Speaker 1: if it was just he blew out his knee and
Speaker 1: he's been out a year, that would feel one way. Instead, listen,
Speaker 1: he is incredibly lucky he didn't end his career that
Speaker 1: day on the Texas Highway, Okay, And he's even luckier
Speaker 1: he didn't end somebody's life. I am not going to
Speaker 1: hold that against him forever moving forward, But I also
Speaker 1: am not going to act like, you know, this is
Speaker 1: a super feel good story, you know what I like.
Speaker 1: So he was very very fortunate that that didn't end
Speaker 1: worse than it did, and he now has to kind
Speaker 1: of earn back everyone's trust. Now that that has been
Speaker 1: said on TV and on the pod repeatedly, I now
Speaker 1: feel comfortable talking about him just the player, and from
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving of his rookie year through when he got hurt,
Speaker 1: he played nine games, not including the playoffs. In those
Speaker 1: nine games was eight seven catches for ninety yards a game,
Speaker 1: and in the playoffs he had another two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty yards. He's excellent and he's going to play the
Speaker 1: Juju intermediate role. So Travis will have more open spaces,
Speaker 1: Rashi will have more open spaces. Thornton and Xavier taking
Speaker 1: the tops off the defense, and it's I think the
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense is gonna look fantastic. I also, however, want
Speaker 1: to talk about the other side of last week's game
Speaker 1: for a moment, which is the Lions, their media, their fans,
Speaker 1: and most notably their coach and quarterback still as of
Speaker 1: yes yesterday whining about a correct call. I've never seen
Speaker 1: anything like it that. Dan Campbell was still and I
Speaker 1: like Dan Campbell a lot, he was still yesterday complaining
Speaker 1: that they took the Jared Goff touchdown off the board.
Speaker 1: There seems to be some real it's in dispute whether
Speaker 1: or not the refs on the field got help from
Speaker 1: New York or not on it. What there is not
Speaker 1: a dispute on is that that was a penalty. It
Speaker 1: is the Lion's stance seems to be yes, it was
Speaker 1: against the rules, but the refs didn't instantly call it.
Speaker 1: Therefore it being called is unfair and to the point
Speaker 1: to where now I wish they had just gotten it,
Speaker 1: because the Chiefs controlled that game regardless, like it is
Speaker 1: a level of whining that for something that was definitively
Speaker 1: against the rules. That is odd to me. And it's
Speaker 1: not my it's it's no one's fault but your own
Speaker 1: that you didn't know that if Goff is under center
Speaker 1: and goes out for motion, he has to pause for
Speaker 1: a beat, and if he's in shotgun he doesn't. That's
Speaker 1: that's not being as buttoned up as you should have been.
Speaker 1: So it's weird to me with a game demands a
Speaker 1: Monday night against Tampa that if they win it, they
Speaker 1: are effectively back in first place in the conference, and
Speaker 1: if they lose it, they're four and three, having lost
Speaker 1: a head to head tiebreaker to Tampa and already being
Speaker 1: a game down in the head to head with Green Bay.
Speaker 1: It's just weird, all right. I want to go back
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs just for a moment to talk League MVP.
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Speaker 1: our preseason gambling show, I said, I thought Tampa was
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Speaker 1: one seed, Baker's got a real shot at m VP.
Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to be this type of, you know,
Speaker 1: insanely hot start. The reason I like the Baker or
Speaker 1: Patrick piece of it Demon's is so many of the
Speaker 1: preseason favorites are just out. So obviously Joe Burrow is out.
Speaker 1: Literally I think Lamar's out, Like what the agree. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean I think missing missing two games doesn't knock
Speaker 1: you out, but I just think being one in five, like, look,
Speaker 1: they would have to go They would have to go
Speaker 1: ten and one the rest of the way for Lamar case. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So then you look at the other teams that could
Speaker 1: have great records, right, Daniel Jones is not gonna win
Speaker 1: League MVP because a lot of people think Jonathan Taylor's
Speaker 1: been the best player on that team. Dan Jones been excellent,
Speaker 1: But it's just to me, Daniel Jones is not gonna
Speaker 1: be League MVP. But they right now are the one seed, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rogers team only has one loss, he doesn't have the numbers,
Speaker 1: and I don't think he's going to so he's not
Speaker 1: gonna win League MVP. I you go to you know,
Speaker 1: Herbert was a trendy pick. They fell off some. Josh
Speaker 1: Allen is still obviously a viable candidate, but he's had
Speaker 1: some hiccups the last few weeks. Right, you go to
Speaker 1: the NF seat. Jaden's team isn't that good record wise,
Speaker 1: So he is and his number has been fine, but
Speaker 1: he's also miss time. He's gotten uphill battle golf. I
Speaker 1: just I don't see it. Maybe I'm like and also,
Speaker 1: the team's records fine, but you might be like Nick,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are three and three. No, I understand that,
Speaker 1: But I also feel like Patrick somehow like has a
Speaker 1: narrative momentum going for him with getting Rashiba back. So
Speaker 1: right now, to me, Patrick and Baker, their real competition
Speaker 1: would and I don't think Jordan Loves had some crazy year.
Speaker 1: The real competition demons is Josh and Stafford.
Speaker 3: And if they start winning games.
Speaker 1: No, no chance, nuts, no, no, I mean, Dak's not
Speaker 1: gonna have a better year than Burrow did last year,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys aren't gonna do better than nine wins
Speaker 1: like Burrow did, and Burrow didn't have a real shot
Speaker 1: at it. Stafford is viable, right, but Puka being banged
Speaker 1: up hurts his chances. Yeah, So I do think Bake
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Speaker 2: The Eagles are coming off that two game losing streak,
Speaker 2: the last one being the Giants, and they're head it's
Speaker 2: to Minnesota. And you went from wanting to see the
Speaker 2: passing game to then them just playing a normal game.
Speaker 2: They failed at both those tasks. What do you expect
Speaker 2: to see them? You see out of them in this game?
Speaker 1: Did this line surprise you?
Speaker 3: It's a little weird.
Speaker 1: Goals only being point and a half favorites against the
Speaker 1: Vikings team that's going to be starting a backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: a Vikings team that's been fine. But you know, I
Speaker 1: don't think as wild people. To me, that was that's
Speaker 1: real evidence Vegas is cooling on the Eagles a bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that they are.
Speaker 3: They're just weird.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are weird, and I don't think Saquan is
Speaker 1: gonna be able to save them. I think, say the
Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty touches from last year. Is just
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to me to have the exact same
Speaker 1: burst in. The offensive line isn't quite as good this is,
Speaker 1: and the defense is just mediocre. This is Demand's an
Speaker 1: opportunity for Jalen Hurts two show the world who he
Speaker 1: is and that that's don't clip that that sounded that
Speaker 1: that's because listen, the guys want he's literally the reigning
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. But so let me rephrase it. For
Speaker 1: the Eagles to pull themselves out of this mini spiral,
Speaker 1: Jalen's gonna have to be excellent. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: I don't think they have a great defense right now,
Speaker 1: and right now they don't have a great running game.
Speaker 1: What they do have is a good to very good
Speaker 1: offensive line and star receivers, and so then it falls
Speaker 1: on Jalen to make the offense work that way, and
Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see how it goes. Do you
Speaker 1: go ahead? Do you think that's an unfair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just it just seems like none of
Speaker 2: them are on the same page. But no, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, you do have.
Speaker 3: The infrastructure go ahead, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, I also think if they lose,
Speaker 1: it can really really get away from them. I don't
Speaker 1: think they have. I don't think they have despite being
Speaker 1: defending champs.
Speaker 3: The that fear factor.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like the institutional maturity to not
Speaker 1: let this get out of hand. And because we saw
Speaker 1: them when they were defending NFC champs in ten and
Speaker 1: one a couple of years ago, it spiraled on them.
Speaker 3: And so it's the weird thing.
Speaker 2: They seem so distant, like they seem like a disciplined bunch,
Speaker 2: but it just I don't know they.
Speaker 1: It's just an emotion. Yeah, it's really odd. It's really odd.
Speaker 1: We'll get to more on this in tomorrow's Gambling show.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the old quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Bengals and Steelers are facing off on Thursday Night Football tonight.
Speaker 2: Cameron Hayward is calling this the Icy Hot Bowl. For
Speaker 2: the only second time in NFL history, two quarterbacks over forty,
Speaker 2: Rogers and Flacco will be facing off.
Speaker 3: What are you expecting from this game? Oh?
Speaker 2: Rogers also called it a great thing for the old
Speaker 2: guys out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think Pittsburgh will win. I think that
Speaker 1: if Pittsburgh doesn't win, since he's gonna feel like we're
Speaker 1: alive if since he wins this game, since he is
Speaker 1: sitting at three wins having beaten Pittsburgh head to head,
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh sitting at four wins now, since he has
Speaker 1: been just the worst team in the league since Burrow
Speaker 1: went out, or you know, that's a little disrespectful to this.
Speaker 3: Yes, pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ravenstrey bad too, that is true. But I actually
Speaker 1: I expect Pittsburgh to win this game. The producers had
Speaker 1: a follow up question in here that I'm going to
Speaker 1: try to do quickly that I think would be fun.
Speaker 2: How would you how would you break down the quarterback
Speaker 2: eras of this century? Could you rank them?
Speaker 1: So? I don't know that. I'm just I think what
Speaker 1: they want me to do is rank the quarterbacks of
Speaker 1: this century. I don't know about eras, So here is
Speaker 1: this is a cursory ranking of how I would have it.
Speaker 1: And basically Brett Farve and older are not eligible, so
Speaker 1: that makes sense. So the one, two, three for this
Speaker 1: century to me is very simple. Tom Brady is one,
Speaker 1: Patrick is two, Peyton Manning is three. That to me
Speaker 1: is pretty undeniable. Four of the last quarter century. I
Speaker 1: also think number three vers. Number four is pretty undeniable.
Speaker 1: And that's Aaron. I think of the two thousands to
Speaker 1: now you're quarterbacking Mount Rushmore. Is Tom Patrick Peyton Aaron.
Speaker 1: Five gets tricky because eligible four that fifth spot and
Speaker 1: tell me in the dock, because I am doing this
Speaker 1: off the top of my head. If you guys think
Speaker 1: I'm leaving anybody out, but just eligible for that fifth
Speaker 1: spot is Breeze, Big Ben Lamar and Josh to me,
Speaker 1: is there is there anyone that I am gonna be like,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Nick, what a terrible job that I forgot.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I would have fifth on that list,
Speaker 1: be Breeze, I would have sixth on that list, be
Speaker 1: Big Ben. Oh there is one guy that is well,
Speaker 1: I don't hold on. I think is Kurt Warner older
Speaker 1: than Brett Farv. Kurt Warner is born in seventy one.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Brett Farv was born in sixty nine, So Kurt,
Speaker 1: that makes it okay? Tom Patrick, Peyton, Aaron, Breeze, Ben,
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, Josh Allen Lamar, and then number ten I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put Stafford and just so that would mean just
Speaker 1: missing the cut would be Philip Rivers, Cam Russ, Matt,
Speaker 1: Ryan Eli. Those are the guys. So that's how But
Speaker 1: I think Aaron listen, Aaron, Aaron. Maybe Aaron had an
Speaker 1: opportunity to be at least to pass Peyton and to
Speaker 1: be the guy that Patrick was chasing before he got
Speaker 1: to Tom, or before he gets to Tom. But Aaron,
Speaker 1: Aaron didn't have the postseason moments for it, like Peyton's
Speaker 1: final one in Dinner. I actually don't think that moves him.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put him that. To me, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't jump him above Peyton. And like I think there
Speaker 1: is a gap between Peyton and Aaron, it would make
Speaker 1: it closer. He'd listen. He certainly wouldn't be ahead of
Speaker 1: Patrick and Tom's Tom. But I and I also think
Speaker 1: everybody has Aaron ahead of Breeze and Big Ben. I
Speaker 1: just think he's firmly fourth of the two thousands. I
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Speaker 1: let's quickly get to three other games here before we
Speaker 1: do our gambling show for tomorrow. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: So you're Jags R headed back to London with they
Speaker 2: always win to face the Rams you put Jacksonville, and
Speaker 2: they're probably not good enough here to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So is your love fading for them? What's going on there?
Speaker 1: No, I listen. I just think that they haven't been
Speaker 1: good enough and it's disappointing because a lot of it
Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that Trevor and Travis
Speaker 1: haven't been as good as they need to be. I
Speaker 1: know they have a good record, and you know Trevor
Speaker 1: had the great moments against Kansas City and then actually
Speaker 1: had a good stat line last week, but they scored
Speaker 1: twelve points against Seattle and Travis. Instead of being you know,
Speaker 1: one and a half players, they're getting the production of
Speaker 1: like three quarters of a player. So that to me
Speaker 1: concerns me for the Jacks. I'm also the Rams offense
Speaker 1: only scoring seventeen against Baltimore, it you know, flagged to me. Now,
Speaker 1: part of me feels like the Rams went into that
Speaker 1: game feel with the stance of if we don't turn
Speaker 1: the ball over, we cannot lose. So we're gonna be
Speaker 1: very conservative, very cautious because Cooper Rush is not moving
Speaker 1: the ball in this defense, and that was correct. So
Speaker 1: if that's the reason that they were the first team
Speaker 1: not to just move the ball at will against Baltimore
Speaker 1: other than the Browns, then that's fine. But Pooka might
Speaker 1: miss this game and he's wildly important, So to me,
Speaker 1: this is a This is a nice litmus test for
Speaker 1: both of these teams. Both of them sit there at
Speaker 1: four and two feeling fine about their record, but also
Speaker 1: probably feeling we can play a little better. And my
Speaker 1: lean in this game would be that the Rams can
Speaker 1: get it done. With that said, the Jags are way
Speaker 1: more used to this trip and it's a much shorter
Speaker 1: trip for them, so that concerns me a bit.
Speaker 2: Next, that's the Cowboys season has gotten off to a
Speaker 2: rough start. Jerry Jones is still hopeful, though, that offense
Speaker 2: is humming, and they play the Commanders this week.
Speaker 3: We're coming off that brutal loss to the Bears.
Speaker 2: Is it crazy to say that thirteen seed Cowboys are
Speaker 2: still a feisty team.
Speaker 3: This might be a pretty good game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, no, I don't think it's crazy at all.
Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys are dead to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But I also think because the offense has been so
Speaker 1: good they can beat anybody, and George Pickens playing the
Speaker 1: best ball of his life. They might get CD back
Speaker 1: this week, they will get him back, if not this week,
Speaker 1: the next week. And that Dak is playing great and
Speaker 1: the passing offense has been e lead. The defense is
Speaker 1: just so bad that they have to score thirty five
Speaker 1: points Washington. On the other hand, de manse, if they
Speaker 1: lose this game, it might be good night. And I
Speaker 1: know that sounds premature, but they're right now twelve. They're
Speaker 1: three and four. I'm sorry, they're three and three. With
Speaker 1: a loss, they'd be three and four, and their next
Speaker 1: three games might be the toughest three game stretch anyone
Speaker 1: has in the NFL all year at the Chiefs home
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, home for the Lions. So this is
Speaker 1: a literal must win for the Commanders, all right? Last one?
Speaker 3: Uh so you called the Colts.
Speaker 2: A legit good team of there, they haven't really faced
Speaker 2: any great teams. They got the Chargers coming up, who
Speaker 2: are also riddled with injuries. Is there a chance the
Speaker 2: Colts are still closer to the twenty four Saints than
Speaker 2: the twenty four Vikings.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, and break away.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just have just absolutely get slaughtered on my
Speaker 1: Colts preseason bets. And no, I mean they have a
Speaker 1: legit offense. The defense isn't as good as the number suggests,
Speaker 1: the offense is excellent, and I you know, I think
Speaker 1: they will likely go to Los Angeles and beat the Chargers.
Speaker 1: And I did not see this season coming for the Colts,
Speaker 1: but I have to give him credit. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get some listener questions.
Speaker 2: Pal Brett asked, Nick, is it really true that you've
Speaker 2: never seen that you've never seen rounders? That'd be like
Speaker 2: a pro am golfer having not seen happy Gilmore and also, hey,
Speaker 2: what's going on?
Speaker 1: No, it's not true that I haven't seen Rounders. Wilde
Speaker 1: just says that for some reason because he thinks it's funny.
Speaker 1: Not only have I seen Rounders, I'm good friends and
Speaker 1: play cards with the guy who wrote it and created it,
Speaker 1: Brian Koppleman. So like wild just says it because he's
Speaker 1: an idiot. All right?
Speaker 2: Next, uh, no, ask do you think Brady Payton Aarro
Speaker 2: was more fun to watch her?
Speaker 3: Mahomes Alan Burrow Lamar.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Brady Peyton. It felt like a
Speaker 1: fair fight and they split games. Like Peyton was three
Speaker 1: and two in the playoffs against Tom. Tom won the
Speaker 1: first two, Peyton won the last three. Patrick being four
Speaker 1: six and one against those three guys combined and having one, one, two,
Speaker 1: three four straight against them makes it it's fun for me,
Speaker 1: but it's not as compelling. Why are you shaking your head? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, like it's like hard not
Speaker 2: shake my head. Yeah, it's fun for you, and they're
Speaker 2: good matchups, you know.
Speaker 1: Like that. But my point is Brady Peyton, Big Ben,
Speaker 1: they all beat each other right like that. That and
Speaker 1: that's just not what we've gotten so far.
Speaker 2: Next, Danny Asha, the Raiders try to reunite Russ and
Speaker 2: Carol at the trade.
Speaker 1: That's the rudest thing anyone said about Gino in ten years. No,
Speaker 1: they should not.
Speaker 2: Next Scott asked, you agree that because they don't play
Speaker 2: in preseason games that the first four through six games
Speaker 2: are not near as good as they are before when
Speaker 2: they played in preseason games.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely, and I think teams are. It's also
Speaker 1: why it didn't happen this year. But typically teams like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs that have really tough training camps are usually
Speaker 1: better than the rest of the league in September because
Speaker 1: they're actually ready to play football. All right, Reminder, everybody
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