1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Welcome in What Drip with Nick Wright, Episode three seventy nine. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: This episode as always in fact, let me just make 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: it so you guys can see it is brought to 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: you by our friends at boost Mobile. If you're watching 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: on YouTube, when I do other people's podcasts, I turn 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: the little mic flag like this to promote my own podcast, 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: so it's in the screen. But when you guys are 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: watching this podcast, you know what podcasts are watching. So 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: my friends a boost Mobile get the added visibility. A 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: big day we have. We're gonna be doing our gambling 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: show later today that you guys will hear tomorrow. We 12 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: have a ton to do today. It is also my 13 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: wife and Demons's mother's birthday, so we are going to 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: try to be as efficient with our time as possible 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: because Pal, I'm a little behind on some of the 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: birthday stuff and the birthday is today, so there might 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: be some wrapping that needs to be done, purchasing that 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: needs to be done. There Did I did I just 19 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: moments ago secure the cake? It's possible. Did you hear 20 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: me on the phone to make sure? Yeah? No, No, 21 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't a social media post. It was a cake 22 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: for your mother's birthday, and you know how old is 23 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: your mother today? There's no way to tell, and so 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: the yeah uh and so no, there's no way to tell. 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: You don't believe it or not, demon's you don't know. 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: And so there is just a lot we need to do, 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: which is why I expected today to be a very 28 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: efficient bang bang bang bang bang. And then the producers 29 00:01:54,280 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: just chummed the waters reminding me about some ofpal Bill 30 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: Simmons and the Ringer's latest rankings, and I cannot stay away. 31 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: So before we even get to straight to voicemail brought 32 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: to you by Boost Mobile, let me just address two 33 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: things as quickly as I am able to. So the 34 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: latest Ringer Top one hundred came out and Bron is 35 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: outside the top ten, and on he's eleven, And on 36 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: its face, I don't actually that is within the range 37 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: of what is you know, in my opinion, an acceptable ranking. 38 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: But it is what kills me is who is number ten? 39 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: So let me make sure I have this right. And 40 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: this is a little frustrating to me, and I think 41 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 1: it's fair. So eleven is Bron? Number ten is durant? 42 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: I knew it didn't. I didn't even see the list. 43 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: I swear I didn't even see the list. 44 00:02:59,280 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: That's crazy. 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: There's just no argument that he's better, and there's no 46 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: argument that he's more available. There's no argument that he's 47 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: more durable or reliable. So and by the way, Steph 48 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: was seven. I I don't think I I think Bron 49 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: is still better than Steph. That at least, though intelligent 50 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: people can disagree like all that that that is a 51 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: debatable point. I don't get why like people are like, well, 52 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Bron's forty, Durant's old too, and Durant misses way more 53 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: time and and so I just that that that just 54 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: on its and this is not a shot at Kevin Durant. 55 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: He is if he, Steph and Bron are all rewriting 56 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: what is really stick for old guys in this league 57 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:09,559 Speaker 1: to do? But it is I don't get why Durant 58 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: and I think this is a good that because you 59 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: can do and this is a great interactive They do 60 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: a really good job with these the visual pieces of 61 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: these articles. But Durant ended last season fourteenth. I don't 62 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: know why you've jumped at what happened where he jumps 63 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: to ten. I just don't. I don't I don't get it, 64 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: and again, I think Durant is unbelievable. The Rockets might 65 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: be my pick to win the championship this year. This 66 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: is I am not trying to beef with Durant. I 67 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: just were yet to have the moment, certainly yet to 68 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: have the moment post Golden State, where there is a 69 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: credible evidence or even eye to based argument that Durant's better. 70 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: So that's a little frustrating. The other thing they put 71 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: in there was a quote from Bill where he said, 72 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: if the Nuggets win the title and he wins MVP, again, 73 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: I assume again I haven't listened to this. I've been 74 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: so in football mode. I don't think he means finals MVP. 75 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: He means regular season MVP. He's indisputably one of the 76 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: ten best players ever, and so I don't think that 77 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: he being Jokic is what. I don't know if I 78 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: said that on the front end, I don't think that 79 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: is necessarily even an incorrect take. It just though, does 80 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: bear mentioning, because as you guys know, I am the 81 00:05:52,279 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: self appointed czar of top tens, having to have ten 82 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: people in them. If you are arguing that if they 83 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: win this title, they being Denver Joker is top ten, 84 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: then you are arguing three of the following people are not. Okay, 85 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: bron Kareem, Michael, Magic, Russell, Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, Bird, Dream, Shaq, Steph. 86 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: That is I think a pretty universally agreed upon top twelve, 87 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: with respect to Jerry and Oscar and Hell, if we 88 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: want to go super old school Mike in and with 89 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: respect to Doctor j and Moses and whomever, that's the 90 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: top twelve. So if Joker wins, I think most people 91 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: are gonna say Dream is out if he's if he's 92 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: in or not, so there, that's the easiest one to 93 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: take out. I think Bill might say Wilt is out. 94 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't, but I think Bill maybe would. And then 95 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: then it gets a little tricky, which is who is 96 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: If we're just saying Dream and Wilt are the easy outs, 97 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: which and again I think Wilt's the sixth gradest player ever, 98 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: but you're taking out Kobe, Bird, Shack, Steph. I don't know. 99 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: So four MVPs, which is what it would be for Joker, 100 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 1: and two rings would And by the way, I didn't 101 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: excuse me when I said that's not including it, it's 102 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: not including Durant I didn't even think about that, But 103 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: Durant's not in the top ten. It is top tens 104 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: are gonna get really prickly for people if let's say 105 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: this hypothetical happens and Joker all of a sudden has 106 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: multiple rings and four MVPs and has kind of elbowed 107 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: his way in there, because it's not gonna be as 108 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: simple as okay, we're just dropping dream who By the way, 109 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: I don't have as twelfth, I have his tenth. I 110 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: the list I gave you guys was the order of 111 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: my one through twelve. But is Joker better than Shack? 112 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: I that's it. That's a tough sell. Maybe like it's 113 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: it is. Do we think he's already better than Steph? 114 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: I don't with one more ring? Maybe it's the there 115 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: you're going what's going to become popular demons in ten 116 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: years are all time top tens that do not include 117 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: Kobe or Bird And that is hard for me to 118 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: wrap my mind around. But I've got Kobe eight, Bird nine, 119 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: and that's with them ahead of Steph, Shack, Joker. I 120 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: know some people disagree with it, So it's just that's. 121 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: That's the most complete NBA players I've seen. I think 122 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: he has everything. I do think he's probably going to 123 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: sneaking that top ten by the end of everything. 124 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: Well, he is unequivocally, I don't know if I should 125 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: say it's one of the greatest. He's one of the greatest, 126 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: probably five or six offensive players. Ever, I struggle a 127 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: bit with the defense. Yeah, well he gets the no again. 128 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: And I don't think he's like some massive liability defensively. 129 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: It's not the but there's some holes on that side now. 130 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: So so Duncan might be the greatest defensive player well 131 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: dream post Russell. Duncan's one of the two greatest defensive 132 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: players post Russell. And to me, Duncan's offense is better 133 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: than Joker's defense obviously, and but offense is worth more 134 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: than defense. It's tricky. It's tricky. I'm not again, I'm 135 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: not here to say that's an outrageous take like Joker 136 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: has earned it. It is also the other thing, just 137 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: real quick that Bill Bill, when he was talking about Giannis, 138 00:10:55,200 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: mentioned the fact that Yannis has only won eight playoff series, 139 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: which was crazy, like to think about like that he 140 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: did a builded a really good thing where he's talking 141 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: about the you know, all time Playoff series one and 142 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: bron has forty one, Duncan has like thirty five, Kobe 143 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: I think thirty two. Again, this is Bill's thing, not mine. 144 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: But from listening to it, Jordan had I think like 145 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: thirty one, and he mentioned how Giannis has eight. I 146 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: was like, wow, like he won four the year they 147 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: won the titles. Joker has ten. So when we are again, 148 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: this assumes he actually gets to fourteen because he wins 149 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: four more. I have a little allergy too, saying a 150 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: guy who's been passed round two twice ever and now 151 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: it would be three times if they win the title, 152 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: is you know we're gonna bump him ahead of Kobe Bryant, 153 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: who went to seven NBA finals. Like so that that 154 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: part of it just is just reflexively it feels I 155 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: mean Duncan went to six finals. I don't even know 156 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: the conference finals off the top of my head. That 157 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: that part feels wrong. Yeah, but it maybe it's not, 158 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: And so I the I I do think though for Joker, 159 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: he has reached the ceiling he can get to as 160 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: far as where he's ranked aps in another title, like 161 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: wherever he is right now, he winning, he has maxed 162 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: out how high you can climb based on individual accolades, 163 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: like he is as high as a one ring player 164 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: can be. And people can say that's reductive or that's silly, 165 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: that it's not it's totally fair. In the it's just 166 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: totally fair. And the guys are telling me Bill said 167 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: he'd be there with Bird and Magic. I think Bill 168 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: has Magic rated lower than I do. I think Bill has, 169 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: like to me, Magic is in a slight tier above Bird, 170 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: and I think that Bill has Bird and Magic in 171 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: the same tier. But that okay. For a show that 172 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: I said was gonna go really fast, we just spent 173 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes on something that wasn't even in the rundown, 174 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: So that's great. We haven't even gotten to straight to 175 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,559 Speaker 1: voicemail brought to you by Boost Mobile, so let's get 176 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: right to it. Go ahead, pal, or no, not go ahead. 177 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Brian Branch's one game suspension has been upheld. Lucas scored 178 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: twenty five in his preseason debut, and the Boston Coaches 179 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: beat the Boston media fifty seven to four. They said, 180 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: do you think the What's Right crew could score more 181 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: than four? 182 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 183 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think Demons could hold his own. I 184 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: feel like they go ahead. 185 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I'd have like fifteen alone if we I 186 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: don't know what, like quarters. 187 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: They were the problem. 188 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 3: Because it's the staff, the guys X dogs. 189 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean there's some former pros on the staff. Yeah, 190 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: I mean former and Missoula was a five year D 191 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: one player. The problem would be this what what's that look? 192 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 3: I mean Joe Mizuela, yea, I would, I would. 193 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: Joe Missoula played a higher than thirty games at West 194 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: Virginia and he was greaty. 195 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: He looked like a gritty guy. But yeah, in these 196 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: days he's probably got the checkers. 197 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: The word here would be the problem for us. We would, 198 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: I honestly think we maybe would need you like to 199 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: come off the bench if we wanted, if we wanted to, 200 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: like if the whole goal was let's get to double 201 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: digits and funnel it through Demanse. I think if we 202 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: just started the game like that, they would just correctly 203 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, he's doubled at all times. The other 204 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: four idiots got to go four on three and we 205 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: might just be cooked. I feel like I can't prove it, 206 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: but I feel like vic is probably a good athlete. 207 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that I can prove it. 208 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 3: Me. 209 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Dan and Matt are just drawn dead that these are 210 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: the things I know, and so it would really we 211 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: would really need the demands vic two man game to 212 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: be crushing. I don't know I would have met. I 213 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: think Paul's probably fine. But you know Matt, Matt, now 214 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: that he's a big bougie executive, you know, is enjoying 215 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: the spoils of success. And I've seen that. I've seen Daniels, 216 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: I've seen Daniel's Twitter avatar picture. I just don't think 217 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: he's instilling a lot of fear in the opposition. Sorry, Daniel, 218 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean I'm not either. For the record, who just 219 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: said we've met? Oh yeah, I know no, Oh, I 220 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: know that, Daniel. But I'm trying to be relatable for 221 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: the audience as well. No, Daniel, he was at the 222 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: Trinage years ago. Okay, we now still haven't even started 223 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: the show. This is a disaster. Like great subscribe review. Please, 224 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: hopefully everyone's enjoying today's programming. Let's get to the actual 225 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: topics at hand. 226 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: So your chiefs are looking normal again. 227 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: The offense is humming where she Rice is off of 228 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: that six game suspension, Mahomes is saying it's going to 229 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: be hard to keep him off the field. Andy Reid's 230 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: saying that he looks good and he's in shape. Are 231 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: you expecting the Chiefs to kick it into a new 232 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: year with Rashi Rice back? I'm expecting that sixty seventy 233 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: from Holmes in this game. 234 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: Oh you got a little, you got a little. I 235 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: don't have a little taste on four and a half 236 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: or something. I mean, that's that's what that sounded like 237 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: to me. Uh So, here's what I think. I think 238 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: the offense is gonna look excellent. I do want to 239 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: say I don't know what's going on with Josh Simmons. 240 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: It seems to be a serious personal family issue, the 241 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: fact that he left the team abruptly. Andy won't talk 242 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: about it. He referred it to Brett Veach. I I 243 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: have no insight on this, but you know, I would 244 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: not expect him to play this week. Luckily, Jalen Moore 245 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: more than acquitted himself well last week, and I think 246 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: he's fine in the short term. I actually think veteran 247 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Moore is probably about as maybe I'm wrong, as 248 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: good as rookie Josh Simmons. Josh Simmons is so exciting 249 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: because as a rookie he's been good and so it's 250 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: about what he's going to be. What I do think 251 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: is the Chiefs are now gonna be able to hit 252 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: every quadrant of the field and Rashi Rice. I think 253 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: people had forgotten what Rashi Rice was doing before he 254 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: got hurt, from the playoffs through the regular season. Once 255 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: he got a hang of it. And I said this 256 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: on the show, I'll say it again, and then I 257 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: want to actually talk about the Lions. I am not 258 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: Rashi Rice is not a conquering hero returning. Okay, Rashie, 259 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: if it was just he blew out his knee and 260 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: he's been out a year, that would feel one way. Instead, listen, 261 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: he is incredibly lucky he didn't end his career that 262 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: day on the Texas Highway, Okay, And he's even luckier 263 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: he didn't end somebody's life. I am not going to 264 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: hold that against him forever moving forward, But I also 265 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: am not going to act like, you know, this is 266 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: a super feel good story, you know what I like. 267 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: So he was very very fortunate that that didn't end 268 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: worse than it did, and he now has to kind 269 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: of earn back everyone's trust. Now that that has been 270 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: said on TV and on the pod repeatedly, I now 271 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: feel comfortable talking about him just the player, and from 272 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving of his rookie year through when he got hurt, 273 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: he played nine games, not including the playoffs. In those 274 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: nine games was eight seven catches for ninety yards a game, 275 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: and in the playoffs he had another two hundred and 276 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: sixty yards. He's excellent and he's going to play the 277 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: Juju intermediate role. So Travis will have more open spaces, 278 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: Rashi will have more open spaces. Thornton and Xavier taking 279 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 1: the tops off the defense, and it's I think the 280 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: Chiefs offense is gonna look fantastic. I also, however, want 281 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: to talk about the other side of last week's game 282 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: for a moment, which is the Lions, their media, their fans, 283 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: and most notably their coach and quarterback still as of 284 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: yes yesterday whining about a correct call. I've never seen 285 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: anything like it that. Dan Campbell was still and I 286 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: like Dan Campbell a lot, he was still yesterday complaining 287 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: that they took the Jared Goff touchdown off the board. 288 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: There seems to be some real it's in dispute whether 289 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: or not the refs on the field got help from 290 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: New York or not on it. What there is not 291 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: a dispute on is that that was a penalty. It 292 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: is the Lion's stance seems to be yes, it was 293 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: against the rules, but the refs didn't instantly call it. 294 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: Therefore it being called is unfair and to the point 295 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 1: to where now I wish they had just gotten it, 296 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: because the Chiefs controlled that game regardless, like it is 297 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: a level of whining that for something that was definitively 298 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: against the rules. That is odd to me. And it's 299 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: not my it's it's no one's fault but your own 300 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: that you didn't know that if Goff is under center 301 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: and goes out for motion, he has to pause for 302 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 1: a beat, and if he's in shotgun he doesn't. That's 303 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: that's not being as buttoned up as you should have been. 304 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: So it's weird to me with a game demands a 305 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: Monday night against Tampa that if they win it, they 306 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: are effectively back in first place in the conference, and 307 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: if they lose it, they're four and three, having lost 308 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 1: a head to head tiebreaker to Tampa and already being 309 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: a game down in the head to head with Green Bay. 310 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: It's just weird, all right. I want to go back 311 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: to the Chiefs just for a moment to talk League MVP. 312 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: This segment is presented by our great friends hard Rock. 313 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: Bet all right, go ahead, pal, So. 314 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: Baker has climbed to number two in MVP odds. 315 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 2: Ahead of him is Mahomes. Those are both of your 316 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: guys that are in the MVP race. We're sponsored by 317 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: hard Rock, so they've created this marker for you. They've 318 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: got a Baker, Mahomes or Baker to win MVP at 319 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: minus one fifty or you could bet the field at 320 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 2: plus one oh five. 321 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: So here's so shout out to hard Rock on this 322 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: not just making this and this market is currently available 323 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: in Florida, by the way, for making this an either 324 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: or side meaning I don't love when it's just when 325 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: it's one way markets because then you can't tell what 326 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: the fair price is. Does that make like if it's 327 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: just a yes bet or just a no bet, you 328 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: can't you can't get a feel for what the fair 329 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: price is. When it's a two way mark minus one 330 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: fifty and plus one oh five. There's obviously some juice 331 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 1: in there because they're not the same number. But those aren't. 332 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: It's not minus one fifty and for either or and 333 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: then minus one fifty for no. And I've got to 334 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: tell you, I think Baker or Patrick to be able 335 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: to get either one of them to win MVP at 336 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: only minus one fifty is a pretty solid bet. Now, 337 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,679 Speaker 1: full disclosure, I won't be making it because I already 338 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: have this bet covered. I have Baker in the preseason 339 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: at thirty five to one on hard Rock, and I 340 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: have every year. It's like an annuity. Every year I 341 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: bet Patrick to win MVP, and then every three years 342 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 1: or so it pays, so so I already have them. 343 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: I have these bets covered. But if you guys remember 344 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: our preseason gambling show, I said, I thought Tampa was 345 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: going to be the one seed, and if Tampa's the 346 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: one seed, Baker's got a real shot at m VP. 347 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: I didn't expect it to be this type of, you know, 348 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 1: insanely hot start. The reason I like the Baker or 349 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: Patrick piece of it Demon's is so many of the 350 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: preseason favorites are just out. So obviously Joe Burrow is out. 351 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: Literally I think Lamar's out, Like what the agree. Okay, 352 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean I think missing missing two games doesn't knock 353 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: you out, but I just think being one in five, like, look, 354 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: they would have to go They would have to go 355 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: ten and one the rest of the way for Lamar case. Right, Okay, 356 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: So then you look at the other teams that could 357 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: have great records, right, Daniel Jones is not gonna win 358 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: League MVP because a lot of people think Jonathan Taylor's 359 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: been the best player on that team. Dan Jones been excellent, 360 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: But it's just to me, Daniel Jones is not gonna 361 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: be League MVP. But they right now are the one seed, right, Yeah, 362 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: Rogers team only has one loss, he doesn't have the numbers, 363 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think he's going to so he's not 364 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: gonna win League MVP. I you go to you know, 365 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: Herbert was a trendy pick. They fell off some. Josh 366 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Allen is still obviously a viable candidate, but he's had 367 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: some hiccups the last few weeks. Right, you go to 368 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: the NF seat. Jaden's team isn't that good record wise, 369 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: So he is and his number has been fine, but 370 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: he's also miss time. He's gotten uphill battle golf. I 371 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: just I don't see it. Maybe I'm like and also, 372 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: the team's records fine, but you might be like Nick, 373 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are three and three. No, I understand that, 374 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: But I also feel like Patrick somehow like has a 375 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: narrative momentum going for him with getting Rashiba back. So 376 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: right now, to me, Patrick and Baker, their real competition 377 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: would and I don't think Jordan Loves had some crazy year. 378 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: The real competition demons is Josh and Stafford. 379 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 3: And if they start winning games. 380 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: No, no chance, nuts, no, no, I mean, Dak's not 381 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: gonna have a better year than Burrow did last year, 382 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: and the Cowboys aren't gonna do better than nine wins 383 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: like Burrow did, and Burrow didn't have a real shot 384 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: at it. Stafford is viable, right, but Puka being banged 385 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: up hurts his chances. Yeah, So I do think Bake 386 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: you're getting basically you get Baker or Patrick at minus 387 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: one fifty. I think that's legit. And if you think 388 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: Baker's gonna fall off and the Chiefs aren't gonna have 389 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: a good enough record, you can just take the other 390 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: side of it at plus money. So that's I think 391 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: that's a sick bet by our friends at hard Rock 392 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: and this show is brought to you by our new 393 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: presenting sponsor, hard Rock Bet. 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All right, demansay, let's get to some 434 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: of these other games quickly, please. 435 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: The Eagles are coming off that two game losing streak, 436 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: the last one being the Giants, and they're head it's 437 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: to Minnesota. And you went from wanting to see the 438 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: passing game to then them just playing a normal game. 439 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: They failed at both those tasks. What do you expect 440 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: to see them? You see out of them in this game? 441 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Did this line surprise you? 442 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 3: It's a little weird. 443 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: Goals only being point and a half favorites against the 444 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: Vikings team that's going to be starting a backup quarterback, 445 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: a Vikings team that's been fine. But you know, I 446 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: don't think as wild people. To me, that was that's 447 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: real evidence Vegas is cooling on the Eagles a bit. Yeah, 448 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: that that they are. 449 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 3: They're just weird. 450 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are weird, and I don't think Saquan is 451 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna be able to save them. I think, say the 452 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty touches from last year. Is just 453 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to me to have the exact same 454 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: burst in. The offensive line isn't quite as good this is, 455 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: and the defense is just mediocre. This is Demand's an 456 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: opportunity for Jalen Hurts two show the world who he 457 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: is and that that's don't clip that that sounded that 458 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,719 Speaker 1: that's because listen, the guys want he's literally the reigning 459 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP. But so let me rephrase it. For 460 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: the Eagles to pull themselves out of this mini spiral, 461 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: Jalen's gonna have to be excellent. That's what I think. 462 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they have a great defense right now, 463 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: and right now they don't have a great running game. 464 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: What they do have is a good to very good 465 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: offensive line and star receivers, and so then it falls 466 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: on Jalen to make the offense work that way, and 467 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm very interested to see how it goes. Do you 468 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: go ahead? Do you think that's an unfair. 469 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair. 470 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: I mean, I just it just seems like none of 471 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: them are on the same page. But no, But yeah, 472 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you do have. 473 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: The infrastructure go ahead, so to speak. 474 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, I also think if they lose, 475 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: it can really really get away from them. I don't 476 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: think they have. I don't think they have despite being 477 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: defending champs. 478 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: The that fear factor. 479 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like the institutional maturity to not 480 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: let this get out of hand. And because we saw 481 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: them when they were defending NFC champs in ten and 482 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: one a couple of years ago, it spiraled on them. 483 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 3: And so it's the weird thing. 484 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 2: They seem so distant, like they seem like a disciplined bunch, 485 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: but it just I don't know they. 486 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: It's just an emotion. Yeah, it's really odd. It's really odd. 487 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: We'll get to more on this in tomorrow's Gambling show. 488 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the old quarterbacks. 489 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Bengals and Steelers are facing off on Thursday Night Football tonight. 490 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: Cameron Hayward is calling this the Icy Hot Bowl. For 491 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 2: the only second time in NFL history, two quarterbacks over forty, 492 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: Rogers and Flacco will be facing off. 493 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 3: What are you expecting from this game? Oh? 494 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: Rogers also called it a great thing for the old 495 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: guys out there. 496 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I think Pittsburgh will win. I think that 497 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: if Pittsburgh doesn't win, since he's gonna feel like we're 498 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: alive if since he wins this game, since he is 499 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: sitting at three wins having beaten Pittsburgh head to head, 500 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh sitting at four wins now, since he has 501 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: been just the worst team in the league since Burrow 502 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: went out, or you know, that's a little disrespectful to this. 503 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 3: Yes, pretty bad. 504 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ravenstrey bad too, that is true. But I actually 505 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 1: I expect Pittsburgh to win this game. The producers had 506 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: a follow up question in here that I'm going to 507 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: try to do quickly that I think would be fun. 508 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: How would you how would you break down the quarterback 509 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: eras of this century? Could you rank them? 510 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: So? I don't know that. I'm just I think what 511 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: they want me to do is rank the quarterbacks of 512 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: this century. I don't know about eras, So here is 513 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: this is a cursory ranking of how I would have it. 514 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: And basically Brett Farve and older are not eligible, so 515 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: that makes sense. So the one, two, three for this 516 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: century to me is very simple. Tom Brady is one, 517 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: Patrick is two, Peyton Manning is three. That to me 518 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: is pretty undeniable. Four of the last quarter century. I 519 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: also think number three vers. Number four is pretty undeniable. 520 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: And that's Aaron. I think of the two thousands to 521 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:32,760 Speaker 1: now you're quarterbacking Mount Rushmore. Is Tom Patrick Peyton Aaron. 522 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: Five gets tricky because eligible four that fifth spot and 523 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: tell me in the dock, because I am doing this 524 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: off the top of my head. If you guys think 525 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm leaving anybody out, but just eligible for that fifth 526 00:36:53,200 --> 00:37:03,400 Speaker 1: spot is Breeze, Big Ben Lamar and Josh to me, 527 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: is there is there anyone that I am gonna be like, 528 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Nick, what a terrible job that I forgot. 529 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I would have fifth on that list, 530 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 1: be Breeze, I would have sixth on that list, be 531 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: Big Ben. Oh there is one guy that is well, 532 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't hold on. I think is Kurt Warner older 533 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: than Brett Farv. Kurt Warner is born in seventy one. 534 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna Brett Farv was born in sixty nine, So Kurt, 535 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: that makes it okay? Tom Patrick, Peyton, Aaron, Breeze, Ben, 536 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: Kurt Warner, Josh Allen Lamar, and then number ten I'm 537 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna put Stafford and just so that would mean just 538 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: missing the cut would be Philip Rivers, Cam Russ, Matt, 539 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: Ryan Eli. Those are the guys. So that's how But 540 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: I think Aaron listen, Aaron, Aaron. Maybe Aaron had an 541 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: opportunity to be at least to pass Peyton and to 542 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: be the guy that Patrick was chasing before he got 543 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: to Tom, or before he gets to Tom. But Aaron, 544 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: Aaron didn't have the postseason moments for it, like Peyton's 545 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: final one in Dinner. I actually don't think that moves him. 546 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to put him that. To me, he 547 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't jump him above Peyton. And like I think there 548 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 1: is a gap between Peyton and Aaron, it would make 549 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: it closer. He'd listen. He certainly wouldn't be ahead of 550 00:39:53,760 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 1: Patrick and Tom's Tom. But I and I also think 551 00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: everybody has Aaron ahead of Breeze and Big Ben. I 552 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: just think he's firmly fourth of the two thousands. I 553 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: think it's very difficult to have him ranked anywhere else. 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I just think that they haven't been 573 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: good enough and it's disappointing because a lot of it 574 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: has to do with the fact that Trevor and Travis 575 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: haven't been as good as they need to be. I 576 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: know they have a good record, and you know Trevor 577 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: had the great moments against Kansas City and then actually 578 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: had a good stat line last week, but they scored 579 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 1: twelve points against Seattle and Travis. Instead of being you know, 580 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 1: one and a half players, they're getting the production of 581 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 1: like three quarters of a player. So that to me 582 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: concerns me for the Jacks. I'm also the Rams offense 583 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: only scoring seventeen against Baltimore, it you know, flagged to me. Now, 584 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,399 Speaker 1: part of me feels like the Rams went into that 585 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: game feel with the stance of if we don't turn 586 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: the ball over, we cannot lose. So we're gonna be 587 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: very conservative, very cautious because Cooper Rush is not moving 588 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: the ball in this defense, and that was correct. So 589 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: if that's the reason that they were the first team 590 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: not to just move the ball at will against Baltimore 591 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: other than the Browns, then that's fine. But Pooka might 592 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: miss this game and he's wildly important, So to me, 593 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: this is a This is a nice litmus test for 594 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: both of these teams. Both of them sit there at 595 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: four and two feeling fine about their record, but also 596 00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: probably feeling we can play a little better. And my 597 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: lean in this game would be that the Rams can 598 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: get it done. With that said, the Jags are way 599 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: more used to this trip and it's a much shorter 600 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: trip for them, so that concerns me a bit. 601 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 2: Next, that's the Cowboys season has gotten off to a 602 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 2: rough start. Jerry Jones is still hopeful, though, that offense 603 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 2: is humming, and they play the Commanders this week. 604 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 3: We're coming off that brutal loss to the Bears. 605 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 2: Is it crazy to say that thirteen seed Cowboys are 606 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 2: still a feisty team. 607 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 3: This might be a pretty good game. 608 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, no, I don't think it's crazy at all. 609 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys are dead to make the playoffs. 610 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: But I also think because the offense has been so 611 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: good they can beat anybody, and George Pickens playing the 612 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: best ball of his life. They might get CD back 613 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,239 Speaker 1: this week, they will get him back, if not this week, 614 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,759 Speaker 1: the next week. And that Dak is playing great and 615 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: the passing offense has been e lead. The defense is 616 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,160 Speaker 1: just so bad that they have to score thirty five 617 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: points Washington. On the other hand, de manse, if they 618 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,279 Speaker 1: lose this game, it might be good night. And I 619 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: know that sounds premature, but they're right now twelve. They're 620 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: three and four. I'm sorry, they're three and three. With 621 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 1: a loss, they'd be three and four, and their next 622 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: three games might be the toughest three game stretch anyone 623 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: has in the NFL all year at the Chiefs home 624 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: for the Seahawks, home for the Lions. So this is 625 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: a literal must win for the Commanders, all right? Last one? 626 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 3: Uh so you called the Colts. 627 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: A legit good team of there, they haven't really faced 628 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 2: any great teams. They got the Chargers coming up, who 629 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 2: are also riddled with injuries. Is there a chance the 630 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 2: Colts are still closer to the twenty four Saints than 631 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 2: the twenty four Vikings. 632 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 3: No, yeah, and break away. 633 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just have just absolutely get slaughtered on my 634 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: Colts preseason bets. And no, I mean they have a 635 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: legit offense. The defense isn't as good as the number suggests, 636 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: the offense is excellent, and I you know, I think 637 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: they will likely go to Los Angeles and beat the Chargers. 638 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: And I did not see this season coming for the Colts, 639 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: but I have to give him credit. All right, let's 640 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: get some listener questions. 641 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 2: Pal Brett asked, Nick, is it really true that you've 642 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 2: never seen that you've never seen rounders? That'd be like 643 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 2: a pro am golfer having not seen happy Gilmore and also, hey, 644 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: what's going on? 645 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: No, it's not true that I haven't seen Rounders. Wilde 646 00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: just says that for some reason because he thinks it's funny. 647 00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: Not only have I seen Rounders, I'm good friends and 648 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: play cards with the guy who wrote it and created it, 649 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: Brian Koppleman. So like wild just says it because he's 650 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: an idiot. All right? 651 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 2: Next, uh, no, ask do you think Brady Payton Aarro 652 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 2: was more fun to watch her? 653 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 3: Mahomes Alan Burrow Lamar. 654 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Brady Peyton. It felt like a 655 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: fair fight and they split games. Like Peyton was three 656 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 1: and two in the playoffs against Tom. Tom won the 657 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: first two, Peyton won the last three. Patrick being four 658 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: six and one against those three guys combined and having one, one, two, 659 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 1: three four straight against them makes it it's fun for me, 660 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: but it's not as compelling. Why are you shaking your head? Yeah? 661 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, like it's like hard not 662 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 2: shake my head. Yeah, it's fun for you, and they're 663 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:50,879 Speaker 2: good matchups, you know. 664 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: Like that. But my point is Brady Peyton, Big Ben, 665 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: they all beat each other right like that. That and 666 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: that's just not what we've gotten so far. 667 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 2: Next, Danny Asha, the Raiders try to reunite Russ and 668 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,440 Speaker 2: Carol at the trade. 669 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: That's the rudest thing anyone said about Gino in ten years. No, 670 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: they should not. 671 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: Next Scott asked, you agree that because they don't play 672 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 2: in preseason games that the first four through six games 673 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 2: are not near as good as they are before when 674 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 2: they played in preseason games. 675 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:33,240 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, absolutely, and I think teams are. It's also 676 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: why it didn't happen this year. But typically teams like 677 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs that have really tough training camps are usually 678 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,479 Speaker 1: better than the rest of the league in September because 679 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: they're actually ready to play football. All right, Reminder, everybody 680 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: like rate subscribe Review, We're gonna stick Demonsay and Aragon 681 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: and stick around and do our week seven gambling show. 682 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: You guys will get that in your feeds tomorrow morning. 683 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 1: As long as you are you are subscribed to the pod. 684 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our each sponsors, hard Rock, 685 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: Bat Boost and of course Zen. 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