1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: This is Mick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: And the official Dallas Cowboys app. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: Now Here are Bill Jones, Hecma Harrison, Everson Walls, and 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: Producer Supreme. 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: Top of this game. 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 4: Yes, it's a victory Tuesday. Inside the SWBC podcast studio. Hecley, 11 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 4: you gotta be excited about things. Come on in. It's 12 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 4: time for a Victory Tuesday edition of Mickshots. 13 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: Bill Chubbs, Everson Walls. 14 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 4: Heck Maherison, Nicky Spagnola, fusion on the face of hebers. Okay, 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 4: that is a victory last night for the Dallas Cowboys, 16 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: well needed, much needed victory. And we are alive. We 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 4: are staying alive, right give I'm you're excited about this 18 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 4: ever so time, I'm really not. 19 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 3: I'm really not. No, No, I'm gonna stay. 20 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: It was the first I'm gonna say, even keeled here 21 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: here was the. 22 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 4: First to text last night after Tony Jefferson came up 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: with the interception. 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: I thought there was an emergency going on. Ever since 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: texting at that time of hour. Oh my god, I 26 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 2: thought it was amazing, that's all he's he's I don't 27 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: even even understand why he's acting, like, did you know 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: you were excited about it as excited as I was 29 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: when I saw that they go to overtime. When I 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: saw it go to overtime, and hey, they deferred, you know, 31 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 2: obviously the Chargers took the ball first. They go down 32 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, please, you know, score 33 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: touchdown at least, you know, get down there and Herbert man, 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: bless his heart. Man, he's struggling with that broken hand. 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: But either way, the back and forth of that game 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: was crazy. But in those final minutes, I don't know 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: how many so many field goals, but I'm telling you, 38 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: in that moment that after Jalen Hurts had struggled, struggle, 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: he was on a struggle bus last night, he made 40 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 2: that throw to DeVante Smith. It was like a third, 41 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: third and sixteen or something crazy like that. I'm like, the. 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 4: First, the first timing route they hit all. 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 2: All day, all day, perfect, perfect, he was ready. He 44 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: fit that thing in there, and then you know they 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: just keep going like, oh my god, damn about yeah, 46 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 2: and man, this guy drops back in his zone and 47 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 2: tips that ball and that. 48 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 4: Was hard by cornerback. And then my guy, Tony Jefferson 49 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 4: is thirteenth year and here we are now. Ever since 50 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: actually had tweet, had texted earlier, what happens if they tie? Yeah, 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 4: And that's what I was going through my mind. Okay, 52 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 4: I didn't figure it out this time? Is I told 53 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 4: you all about? Okay? Yeah, it's four and three three 54 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: forward to all that crap yesterday, that loss, and I did. 55 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: I do think I've had figured it out now the Eagles. 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: In order for this all to play out for the Cowboys, 57 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: they're likely going to have to lose a game to 58 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: Washington and that's going to destroy their division record. Cowboys 59 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: would have a better division record. Obviously they've split their 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 4: head to head and so I think even with a tie, 61 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 4: to answer your question, the Cowboys would have had the 62 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 4: tiebreaker over the Eagles. But as it stands now, we're 63 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 4: looking at Cowboys have to win out and the Eagles 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: split their last four games, and the Cowboys win the 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: division if that happens. So Commanders, and they got two 66 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: against the Commanders, one against the Raiders, and then at 67 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 4: Buffalo you got at Buffalo. We're counting that as an L. 68 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 4: And then I don't think it's the Raiders this week. 69 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 4: I don't think, well, don't trust. You got to start 70 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 4: trusting something. You put yourself the position you got to trust. 71 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: I would have trusted the Commanders himself. They lost thirty 72 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: one zero and as all my trust just went out 73 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: the window for them. 74 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, but you got there. There's hope. Hope is alive. 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 2: Oh man. So and. 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 5: What are you saying that everybody? 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 6: Everybody is giving Jefferson credit. His ass was beat. If 78 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 6: that if cam Hart doesn't tip. 79 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 5: The ball's it was a touchdown. The games over us. 80 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 3: If if was a fifth, I know. 81 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: It away from Jefferson, he did all have. 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 6: If that ball wasn't tip, it was a touch that 83 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 6: was a touchdown. 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: He had. 85 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 5: The guy had four yards on him. 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 2: He did he did. 87 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: No, that was a touchdown. That was a touchdown, no doubt. 88 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 3: He put that thing right. 89 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 6: He came off Goddard tipped the ball at the five 90 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 6: and it goes right. 91 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a hell of a play. 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 6: Great play on him to come off his because he 93 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 6: is covering Goddard, right. 94 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 5: And I think you said out of the slot. 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: Do you think he said, Oh my god, the guy's 96 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: be behind me. 97 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: I met immediately. 98 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 5: I think he did. You know, what did you stay 99 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: for that postgame interview? 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: I did. 101 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 6: So they interviewed Jefferson, right, and they start talking to him. 102 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 6: He goes, oh, man, I got to catch my breath. 103 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 6: I go, yeah, because you ran one hundred yards to celebrate. 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't because you made. 105 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: But all the way down to the he did. 106 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: But what he did do was give credit what credit 107 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: is due to his cornerback. As you said, he's a 108 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: heck of a play. If he doesn't make that play, 109 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: then obviously they don't end the game in that fashion. 110 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: So and about great cats, now, I mean, that's the 111 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: hell of he scause you're already you're gonna you're trying 112 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 2: to make it up. 113 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 3: And you just yeah, a chance to react. 114 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: No, that was which is, which is what he has 115 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: done throughout his career, going back all the way. And 116 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: just to continue on that, what did you for? 117 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: This is this is. 118 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: He was undrafted. Okay, he tweaked his hamstring at the combine. 119 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 4: This is twenty thirteen coming out. Okay, he tweaked his 120 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: hamstring at the combine. So he ran like a four 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 4: to seven. Okay, and he and Speed's no, yeah, yeah, Okay. 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: So he goes undrafted, makes the team in Arizona, gets 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: a second contract with Baltimore. Okay, forty million dollar deal. 124 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: Ok So we've proven himself. Then he's battled through a 125 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: couple of knee injuries in his career. In the COVID year, 126 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: he was out of football. Okay, then he was with 127 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: the Giants. He said, this is his eighth jersey number. 128 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: I looked on Pro Football Reference, his eighth jersey number 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 4: in the league, thirteenth year. He was retired two years 130 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: ago and had joined the Ravens scouting department. He was 131 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 4: scouting players. Comes back last year with Jim Harbaugh and 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 4: the Chargers. He had two picks in the Trey Lance 133 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 4: five interception game here last year, made the team, and 134 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: now he's got he had four pickses an entire career 135 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 4: coming into this year. He's already got four picks this year. 136 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: And uh so it's an amazing story. He's thirty three 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 4: years old. 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: Was going to say he looked thirty eight. Yeah, because 139 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 5: when I saw him do the interview, that guy's old. 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's thirty three is not that old. No, 141 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: but he's been around the block and then some and 142 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 4: uh so, anyway, hell of a play. Yeah, and it's 143 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 4: a great old man, great play for the Dallas Cowboys. 144 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: It was. Can we talk about Jayalen Hurts and how 145 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: he sucked it up? You guys want to you know, 146 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: it's twenty one about for forty QBR twenty seven wow 147 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: four interception. 148 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: Someone said that had he, oh my god, had he 149 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 4: clocked the ball. If he spiked the ball on every 150 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 4: play in the game, his quarterback rating would have been higher. 151 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: Than no way, yes, just have it. 152 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 4: If he just took the snap and threw it into 153 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 4: the ground every time, it's like passer ray joy. 154 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: I love that. I love that. 155 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 3: I'm gonna use that. 156 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. 157 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: I've never known him to just be so unhinged in 158 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 3: the game. 159 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: What it should have been five picks? 160 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 7: R J. 161 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: Mickens had a pick, You trapped the ball early in 162 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 4: the game. It should have been five picks. 163 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: In that game, right off the bat, right right. 164 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he was. He was bad, and. 165 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 6: Well their offensive line was worse and the Chargers line 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 6: was worse than that. 167 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 8: He was getting hit just like Dak was getting hit 168 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 8: every time you looked at me throw a ball. 169 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: He's just like the lack of holding calls in this game, 170 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: that's what I think. I'm just like, come on, now, 171 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 2: how do you how do these referees catch us with 172 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: every holding? And my lotta is out there completely mugging 173 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: guys on each and every play AGA and they are 174 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 2: missing it. 175 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 6: A Lota got away with one because the center got 176 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 6: called for holding. 177 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: He was holding to both in flags. 178 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: I think it was the sick one Barkley run that 179 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: I'm specifically sour about. He was he was holding it 180 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: in calls. 181 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 4: Sugar sugar, huddle, hurry of the line, quick snap. 182 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 6: And so how about this Barkley twenty for one twenty two. 183 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 6: You take out the fifty two yards, he was nineteen 184 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 6: for seventy. 185 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 4: Right, which is about what he's done all year. Yeah, 186 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 4: about every game he's like that. And by the way, 187 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: this Eagles team, which may give some hope to the Raiders, 188 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 4: to the Commanders a couple of games the last five games, 189 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: the most number of points they've scored in the game 190 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: was against the Cowboys twenty. 191 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: One and basically did it in one quarter. 192 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: That's right, And so four other games, two of them 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: were wins against the Packers and the Lions. 194 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 6: Before this, So what was a sixteen or ten and 195 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 6: seventeen in the games after the cow when they lost 196 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 6: they beat the Packers. 197 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 5: Was it ten to seven? 198 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: It was something like that, and then the other game 199 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: was it was sixteen to ten a win, and then 200 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: since then it's been outside of the Cowboy game under 201 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 4: twenty points. 202 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: The Eagles defense kept them in that game. Every game, Yeah, 203 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: Jordan Davis, even without Jay leccarter, they I mean, they 204 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 2: played solid up run Na. Kobe dean Man is a 205 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 2: guy that obviously been dealing with injuries just I mean 206 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: as a linebacker, I mean, you got you gotta have 207 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 2: guys like that on your team that is violent at 208 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 2: a point of attack, the way that he plays, and 209 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: Red Blanket Ship, I don't give that guy a lot 210 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: of credit. But last night, Boy blanking shit was coming 211 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 2: up bringing it now he was, you know, at the 212 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: tackle for a loss that was bill. I love the 213 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: way that they played. I mean, that's hard for me 214 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: to give them a compliment, but you know, nonetheless, it's 215 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: a complimenting the loss. 216 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 5: Good good good. 217 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 6: The Cowboys get to play the chargers and circle number 218 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 6: seventy five. 219 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 5: The center. He was awful was Bozeman. 220 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 4: Bring kept blinking the wrong guy. 221 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 5: He was blocking to his left. 222 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 4: And ringing over shown up the middle right a gap blitch. 223 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 5: They did it so many times. This guy kept turning 224 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 5: to his left. I go, what are you doing when he's. 225 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: Coming right at you? And then Hampton's not able to block. 226 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 4: Wasn't able to block the Kobe Dean last night. 227 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 6: So they missed this on the On the post game, 228 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 6: they interviewed Herbert right, and you know, they were showing 229 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 6: his hand and it's all bandage up the club. 230 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 5: Well he walks off his elbow. There's bandages on his 231 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: elbow and they're soaking with blood. 232 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 6: He's he's still bleeding, right, and nobody they didn't say anything. 233 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 6: It was like they kept talking about his hand. 234 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 5: I go, look at his elbow, poor baby lord. 235 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: And he was their leading rusher. 236 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah. 237 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: Once last night. No, not at all. They faked touched. 238 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 5: It wasn't they were pushing him. But it was third 239 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 5: and one. 240 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 4: There was third and one, and they sugar huddle. They 241 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 4: quickly came to the line and and and they tried 242 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: doing They did that a lot against the Cowboys where 243 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 4: they would come to the line quick and quick snap 244 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 4: it and because they got no other alternative. That's their 245 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 4: trick play and offense. 246 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 6: Look at the Eagles had seven sacks, eleven quarterback hits, 247 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 6: seven tackles for losses, five passes defense, and a sixty 248 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 6: eight percent pressure ratings and they got beat. 249 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: You gotta give it to Sande. Yeah, like you have 250 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: to give it to the charges. 251 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 5: I mean they hung in there. 252 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: They hung in there. They're playing at home. They're playing 253 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: at home. 254 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 5: Their most valuable player was no Cameron Dicker. 255 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, well five kicker that kicker from where Bill Texas, 256 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 9: from where I'm not sure what is its Lake Austin. 257 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 3: Look, you got it. 258 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 2: This is a moment. 259 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: You got it. That was nice, Yeah, real good from where. 260 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: He's not the best kick, like that's no, no, he 261 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 2: even stuthered when he said, oh Texas, that was saving. 262 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 3: That was little shaky right there. 263 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 4: But then you who's the best kicker at a west Lake? 264 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: Who knows Justin Tucker? Okay, there you go. 265 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: No, he does not pick on you. 266 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 5: Best behavior. 267 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 4: But I can tell you what high school Tony Jefferson. 268 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: He went. 269 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: He go to West Lake he went to East Lake, California. 270 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, No, no, no, that. 271 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 5: Was that was that was impressive kicking just like it was. 272 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: He's Aubrey right in Aubrey right. That's what you get that. 273 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 4: It's going to be featured next week when the Chargers 274 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: come to town. 275 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: It's going to be a kicker kicker off. Yeah, can't sick. 276 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know kick offer, yeah, I 277 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: don't know. I don't have to careful, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 278 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 2: I won't try to get. 279 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 6: Yes, and I know it was five, but to hit 280 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 6: from fifty four and overtime, yeah, that was pressure on you. 281 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 8: I mean, any one of those kicks are tough. I mean, 282 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 8: especially when you're trying to stay in it. One of 283 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 8: them was to tie and that was that was a 284 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 8: go one. I just knew they were gonna blow it. 285 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 6: I was just waiting and then he had to rekick 286 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 6: one of them right when the guy it was a 287 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 6: penalty for leverage. 288 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. He was clutched last night and. 289 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 5: Then he came back and kicked it again. So yeah, 290 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 5: that was pretty The. 291 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 8: Kickers started off like Superman early in the season, then 292 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 8: they kind of leveled off a bit during this time 293 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 8: of year. I think they're trying to ramp it back up. 294 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 8: Let Aubrey have something to do with that. 295 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: Kind of like kind of like teams in general too, 296 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 4: where you start off strong, like on offense. Yeah, and 297 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 4: then then there's, uh, the defense starts catching up. Yeah okay, 298 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: and then it's the dog Days in November and now 299 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 4: it's the dash for cash in December, dash cash. 300 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 10: Well. 301 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: I don't think Justin Herbert should get away with the 302 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: criticism the man twelve for twenty six last night, he 303 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 2: wasn't very good and maybe it's the hand that's bothering. 304 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: There's one play where you're noticing one of the Eagles 305 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: defenders trying to punch the ball out. He was going 306 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: for the hand. 307 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, but he is his own player's hand. Yeah, he did, 308 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 3: but he was trying to get him. 309 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: I was like, that's thirty. 310 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 5: I was glad the. 311 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 6: Referee analyst or whatever said, hey, if you go to 312 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 6: punch the ball out the guy, it's a penalty. 313 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. How many times you're gonna see that? 314 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 6: What he said if you're trying to punch it, yeah, 315 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 6: I heard you. And if you missed the ball, okay, 316 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 6: and you punched the guy. 317 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 5: Okay, he's punching the guy. 318 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: No, okay, it's football. 319 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 5: Punch. 320 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: Well why not? But what's an elbower. 321 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 5: What's the difference of punching in the chest or punching 322 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 5: in the head. 323 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: I guess the shoulder pads and helmet. 324 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you. 325 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 5: Still get penalized if you punch a guy in that. 326 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 8: So if I hear the guy in the shoulder with 327 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 8: my elbow, no, no, I said, punch. 328 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: Okay, once again, if I hear the guy with my. 329 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 5: Elbow, your elbow, your fist. 330 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: I am going somewhere with this. Let me you can't. 331 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 3: You can hit with an elbow, but not with a fist. 332 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 5: You can't hit with a fist. That's throwing a punch. 333 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 4: They're going to call that again, that's a football move. 334 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 4: Punching it out. 335 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's what I said. 336 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: Wow, that could that could be a little little So 337 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 4: you better watch where you Yeah, you better watch. 338 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: It's never been called before, so I've never seen that. 339 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: They'll call it against us. It'll happen. 340 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 8: It's just off the top of we're dragging the guy 341 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 8: across the goal line. 342 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, we get the offensive basket. 343 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 6: You know. 344 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 5: I had to ask. 345 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 6: I saw play I can't remember if it was college 346 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 6: or NFL where the guy was on the ground and 347 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 6: the guy punched the ball right, And I'm going, is 348 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 6: that like touching the guy and he's down because if you. 349 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: Hit the ball. 350 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 6: I was told it counts he's down if you punch 351 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 6: the ball, even if he's on the ground and had 352 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 6: been and no one had touched him. 353 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. 354 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 5: And I asked a head referee in college that too. 355 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: So we have to allow him to get up and 356 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: then try to punch it. 357 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 5: No, you can watch it. He's just he's down. It 358 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 5: counts he's down. 359 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, But if I want the ball, I have to 360 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 3: let him get up. 361 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 5: Well, no, punch it out. Oh yeah, you're right because 362 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 5: he's down. 363 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 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He's been out for five years. 416 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: He signed that that line, he's now. 417 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 4: No longer a Hall of Fame semifinalist. He is out 418 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 4: his clocks. He's not eligible for another five years. 419 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 6: So that opens it up for someone else. And he 420 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 6: doesn't get in the way of anybody. 421 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: Making it if he makes Woodson. 422 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 4: Yes, yep, there you go. That's true. So that's good 423 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 4: news there. 424 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 5: They lost both quarterbacks. 425 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: Well, Anthony Richardson had been lost and it was a 426 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 4: locker room orbital. 427 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 428 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 4: Now Riley Leonard, who came in for uh uh Daniel 429 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 4: Jones the other day, he's he's questionable, right, so he's 430 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 4: got it. He reported to work yesterday with a knee injury. 431 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 4: What's interesting about this, I think? And they do have 432 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 4: Brett Rippon on there. 433 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: And we are talking about the Colts. 434 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's interesting about it? As far as Philip Rivers 435 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 4: is concerned, he is, he's a grandfather, forty four years old, 436 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: he's got ten he's got ten kids. Yeah, he's from 437 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: Fair Hope. He's a high school coach in fair Hope, Alabama, 438 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: which is Riley Leonard's hometown. And he's been a mentor 439 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 4: to Riley Leonard. So I think there is more to 440 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 4: this than just Philip Rivers being insurance in case of 441 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: an injury. He's a coach, they sign him and he's 442 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 4: like a mentor to Ryley Lennard and. 443 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: So he was he was with the high school team. 444 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm just saying what the signing is all about. 445 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 4: Right exactly. And so as a practice squad I believe 446 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: the maximum contract that for a practice squad player is 447 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 4: twenty two thousand dollars a week with four weeks left 448 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 4: in the season. So as if he doesn't get activated 449 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 4: to the regular roster, you're talking twenty two thousand dollars 450 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 4: a week for Philip Rivers to come in. And so 451 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 4: that's eighty eight thousand dollars over the last four weeks 452 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 4: of the season. He can be a mentor to your 453 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 4: starting quarterback, assuming Riley Leonard's healthy, and he's insurance in 454 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,439 Speaker 4: case he's needed to come in. 455 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 2: Eighty eight thousand dollars for four weeks of work. Well, 456 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 2: I tell you, and. 457 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 4: If he gets activated, he's signed me up probably what 458 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 4: half a million. Believe he's probably five hundred thousand something 459 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 4: like that if he gets activated, and. 460 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: They're probably praying that he never reaches it. Never reaches 461 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: that that is death con. 462 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: So I think that is the backstory on this. But 463 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 4: what Philip Rivers is giving up right now is time 464 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: with his family at ten. 465 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: His wife is probably happy. 466 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, when you've got ten kids and grandkids, there's a 467 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 4: whole lot of Christmas presents. She got a look, idiot 468 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 4: and he and the season's over. So it's like Teddy Bridgewater. 469 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 4: It's like, although he's much older than Teddy Bridgewater, Bridgewater 470 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: was coaching Northwestern High School in Miami and last year 471 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: and came back to Detroit. 472 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: Is the question, where is Bridgewater? 473 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 4: And he's at Tampa Bay. 474 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm like, why the hell did he get Teddy Bridgewater? 475 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: You can tell me that no backup quarterbacks out there, 476 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: and you signed a forty four year old guy and 477 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: you're telling me he's only being signed for to be 478 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: a kid. 479 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: Rivers has been in this offense. 480 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. 481 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 5: Bridgewater is doing commercials. What are you talking about? 482 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: Bridgewaters? He still playing. 483 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Tampa, but he's doing don't you see oh believe? 484 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Jenny very cool, get in here, very cool. 485 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 5: And by the way, fair Hope. I think that's where. 486 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 4: Leon let's from Fair Hope. Yeah, that's right. So there 487 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 4: you go. We brought it back to the Cowboy. 488 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: There you go. 489 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 5: I got you straight. 490 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 3: You on the Today's backs. I like it. 491 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 4: But okay, so there's your update from around the league. 492 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 3: No, no, no, we still got the should do it. 493 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 4: We haven't talked you do it. 494 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: We didn't talk. 495 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 5: He's the starter for the rest of the season. 496 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: He's the starter for the rest of the season, so 497 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: he has a month to show him what he can do. 498 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: Since it was a matchup between Cleveland and Tennessee, I 499 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: wasn't paying a lot of attention to that game. I'm 500 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 4: going to go back and watch him. But apparently Should 501 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 4: do her lit it up. His harshest critics are now 502 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: doing a complete switcher through and saying, wow, this guy 503 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 4: can play in the league. 504 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 2: Man, Look, they'll be back. They'll be back. They'll be back. 505 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: Don't worry. They're just waiting for the proper, the proper 506 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: opportunity to pounce, just like George Pickens critics. But this 507 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski, I just I just wish, I just know, I. 508 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 3: Just does it. 509 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 2: Does this when you Okay at the end of that game, No, no, 510 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 2: I got it. I got it, I got it. I'm 511 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: trying not to cuss, all right. At the end of 512 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 2: that game, the two point conversion. Your quarterback is playing 513 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: like that when you come in with a trick play 514 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 2: whatever they were trying to accomplish in that situation. To me, 515 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 2: that is given the game of black Eye. I think 516 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: that when you look at the history of the NFL, 517 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 2: quarterbacks live for those moments. Everybody wants their moment. Troy 518 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: Aikman has in Ontwna. All the greats have a moment, 519 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: and you look at first round draft picks or quarterbacks 520 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 2: in the league that haven't panned out, well, they still 521 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: allow them to have that moment. You don't take that 522 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: guy off the field and leave it to chance for 523 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: some wildcat offense to be ran. I just thought that 524 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: was I think his whole attitude towards towards him Shuder 525 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: has been malpracticed for the organization. I don't care what 526 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 2: anybody said, you know, I think if you want to 527 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: make it personally, then make it. He already has made 528 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 2: it personal. But to double down on that in that 529 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: moment and take that away, dude, I don't have any 530 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 2: respect for him. 531 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 8: You know, he had this built in excuse as well, 532 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 8: because he has run the wildcat several times when they 533 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 8: get down there. But you know, as as someone pointed 534 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 8: out today, uh, he didn't have a quarterback of it 535 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 8: thrown for three hundred plus yards. 536 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 4: Either, and actually had run for a touchdown already, even 537 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: had the run past option. Right, But the quote unquote 538 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 4: non athletic quarterback who happens to be the son of 539 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 4: the one of the fastest players in the history that yeah, 540 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 4: but his mother. 541 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you got his mom speed, that's true. 542 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 5: So they hiked it to a running back. They didn't 543 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 5: see it. 544 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 2: Yeah number ten right, Yeah, who was who was having 545 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 2: a good game as well, just was having a good game. 546 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: And if I'm not mistaken, because I saw a lot 547 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: of games, did I see them? 548 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:44,959 Speaker 3: Miss? 549 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't pitch it, and so there's like, what 550 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: are you doing that? It almost like a double reverse 551 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: pass and he was that what he meant to do. 552 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: That's I don't know the designer to play. All I 553 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: can tell you is it was a busted play from 554 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 2: the beginning, and it was then he actually tries to 555 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: throw it. 556 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: And it wasn't a play where Shador stayed on the 557 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: field and lined up at wide receiver. He was on 558 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 4: the side on the sideline right, so you could understand 559 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: a trick play where okay, the ball is eventually you're 560 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 4: gonna get in his hands, where he's. 561 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: Gonna like a horrible you can go personally wise, Okay, 562 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: you know you've done it before, so you have your 563 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: built in excuse. But the carrying out of the play 564 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 2: itself that was the worst I've ever seen. So they 565 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: were he meant to fake it and then throw back 566 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 2: to him. 567 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: I can't. 568 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 2: I can't believe that that's because he could have been thinking, 569 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: because the timing of a play like that. He threw 570 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: it because he was he literally was under pressure. He 571 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 2: doubled back the other way and then threw the ball. 572 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: I think the guy that he was going to hand 573 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: the ball off too, was responsible for throwing to the 574 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: corner of the inst That's the only way that they 575 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: play design that's going to happen, because otherwise. 576 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 3: I was like, why is he throwing it? 577 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 8: I thought there was a running play, and now I 578 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 8: realized that the guy that he faked two was supposed 579 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 8: to be going. 580 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 2: And if you're gonna go wildcat with junkins, then make 581 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 2: it he's running to the bho but b gap or 582 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: a gap, you know, something like that. But don't you 583 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 2: know that that's crazy misdirection, misdirection on the on the 584 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 2: what one yard line? And you just I mean, like 585 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: I said, malpractice. It was a behole call. 586 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 6: Well do you realize that they practiced it was? They 587 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 6: practiced that play? Okay, over and over because it's on 588 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 6: the call sheet, right. 589 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: And that was the two point play. 590 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: That was. 591 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 5: Who the quarterback was. 592 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 4: But that's where you have their point is you got 593 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,959 Speaker 4: to you gotta make an adjustment. 594 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 5: You don't just invent something. 595 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: No I'm not saying that they invented, but there's got 596 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 2: to be some checks and balances. Even in that situation 597 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: that somebody calls down and say, hey man, that's not 598 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: what we're gonna do. 599 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 4: Are sing how our quarterbacks play time out? 600 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna call a time out here. 601 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: Let's say listen, meeting of the minds. Get the owner 602 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: on the phone. We're about to call a all cat 603 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 2: reverse throw. 604 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 3: Come on now, wild cat reverse. Do you know how 605 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: fake reverse? Yes? 606 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: Come on man? All right? You know that was And 607 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: see it's almost as if you try I try not 608 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: to get into all this conspiracy crap. But it's almost 609 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: as if he tries to diminish this guy's output doing 610 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: any almost any game that he's in. He's very uh, 611 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 2: he's very very short on the the praise of should 612 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: do as well. 613 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 8: You got a rookie quarterback here who's playing better than 614 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 8: any rookie quarterback has ever played in Cleveland period, and 615 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 8: for you not to give him a little bit more love, 616 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 8: I know you feeling the pressure because he's feeling it 617 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 8: from a lot of people who some of. 618 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: Them don't even know what the hell they're talking about, 619 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: but some of them do. 620 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 8: And he's not doing himself any favors by losing games 621 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 8: in the fashion that he's doing it, especially when you 622 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 8: have this gym sitting over here, right up to you, 623 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 8: right who's ready to get in the ball game and 624 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 8: make some things happen. And when he does make it happen, 625 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 8: and then now you minimize whether you. 626 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 6: Think the owner called down and said he's the starting 627 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: quarterback for the rest. 628 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Of the starter. 629 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 4: Now the next day, So I wish makes you wonder. 630 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 2: Bad organizations do what bad organizations do, and the Browns 631 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: are one of them, And so it doesn't surprise me. 632 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 5: They drafted him. 633 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they did, but then that's a whole conspiracy 634 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 2: on how the hell they drafted him or how he 635 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 2: got there. No, I mean, I don't think there's been 636 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: any other player that's been drafted that had five six 637 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: other people say we didn't want him in the owner 638 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 2: state up and say, oh, well I did, oh I 639 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: didn't want him, And then this's gout that the assistant 640 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: general manager say I'm the one that wanted I mean, 641 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: come on, man, at the end of the day, the 642 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 2: deal is for people like yourself, Everson, that know the game, 643 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: that understand how offensive coordinators work. You know, this guy's 644 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 2: tried to dumb down the offense when he's pasted during 645 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: the game. And now, come on, man, anyway, y'all want 646 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: talk about the Cowboy? 647 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, because how many teams passed up on the Dak. 648 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: Prescott land it right in your lap? You know, A blessing. 649 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: I just yeah, yeah, a blessing. 650 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 5: Sometimes thirty two teams make them. 651 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: That's what some mishaps. Mishaps can happen, and sometimes they 652 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: can project you upward. We need to we need to 653 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: send a fruit basket to the Pittsburgh Steelers for George Pickens, 654 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: by the way, for mix shots, mix. 655 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 8: Shots, who was the guy who was the guy that 656 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 8: Dion dumped the gatorader on that time? The commentator who 657 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 8: played reporter news, but he also was a former player. 658 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: He was a catcher and when baseball Okay, I'm sorry, yes, 659 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:41,719 Speaker 2: I'm talking baseball. 660 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: M Tim McCarver. 661 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, he's not related to so should we throw related 662 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 8: to Savanski? 663 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 3: Stop it? 664 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 2: Man? 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What an angle? 717 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 4: So what's what's the take you want to And that 718 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 4: was after the game on Thursday night on the Prime 719 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 4: Postgame Show, where Sherman had some pointed comments towards pickens 720 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: effort in the game on Thursday night. There have been 721 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: others who have said similar things, even Kirk kurb Street 722 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 4: during the game was pointing out some things. So what's 723 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: the take here. 724 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 6: I think Richard Sherman what he said give everybody else 725 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 6: the license to pile on. And he's been known to 726 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 6: say stuff off the cuff that he didn't know what 727 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 6: he's talking. 728 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 2: So you think no, So wait a minute, So you 729 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: think that because Richard Sherman said what he said, then 730 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: everybody else started shopping in their knives and say, let's 731 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: come out through him. Because Richard Sherman said it, now 732 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,840 Speaker 2: it gives us the green light. I mean, Micky, you met. 733 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 5: Hey, it's exactly right. 734 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: That may actually have been what happened. But I think 735 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: that the whole time those critics were waiting in the 736 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: wings to say something about him, this whole Pittsburgh Pickings thing. 737 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 2: And the kid, Look, no matter what people say about 738 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 2: George Pickens, he's having a hell of a year. And 739 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: I hope the kid has thick skin and comes back 740 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 2: and balls out again to shut everybody up. Pittsburgh lost 741 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 2: one and and if you look at their production that 742 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 2: they've had this season versus what George Pickens is doing 743 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: for the Cowboys, it is crumbs to bricks. So Yeah, 744 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 2: keep criticizing, but keep balling three. 745 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 8: I mean they've they've been They've been waiting on this. 746 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 8: Everyone's been waiting on this all year long. We almost 747 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 8: got it in the Chicago game when he I think 748 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 8: it was Chicago when he dropped him talked about it, 749 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 8: and he slammed his helmet down, which had nothing to. 750 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,280 Speaker 5: Do with anything. 751 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 8: He was mad at you were mad at himself. And 752 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 8: it went nowhere. It went nowhere, And a lot of 753 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 8: that has to do with the fact that he's surrounded 754 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 8: by good teammates. 755 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 6: So this event enables everybody to either talk or write 756 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 6: about it, to bring up that he was late for 757 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 6: a meeting, he missed the bus. 758 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 8: Now, all of a sudden, we're chronicling all of these 759 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 8: things that happened, and if you add it all up, 760 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 8: then you're talking about what. 761 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 3: See, that's why. 762 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 5: He because I remember when he got here. 763 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 6: The criticism was because Tomlin said he needed to grow 764 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 6: up or mature, right, and everybody pointed out how many 765 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 6: personal files he got with the Steelers. Yeah, well the 766 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 6: personal files were excessive celebration. So he did something good 767 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 6: to produce something bad, right, and he did it here right. 768 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 5: He went and jumped on. 769 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 6: The gold posts or whatever you call it, and everybody 770 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 6: gonna okay, now let's lump that in, right, right, right, Yeah, 771 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 6: it's just trying to pick on the guy. And I 772 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 6: guarantee to you when he does his interview on Thursday 773 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 6: out here, that's going to be the second question, right, 774 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 6: And my advice to him as his advisor is to say, 775 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 6: next question, Yes, don't try to argue. 776 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 5: With the masses, because you can't win. 777 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: Mickey. How many wide receivers have you seen that have 778 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: played with bad quarterbacks, get upset and you know, demand 779 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: either demand the ball better. Yeah, absolutely, anyone that's that's 780 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 2: worth this. 781 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 6: He's and he and and that's the not only was 782 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 6: he in that situation in Pittsburgh, he didn't have a 783 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 6: fellow receiver that was worth squat playing with him. What 784 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 6: do you think defense and no quarterbacks? So what do 785 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 6: you think the defenses were doing? You're not beating me, right, 786 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 6: and so yeah, I just think he You know, I 787 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 6: didn't see what he posted whatever and any deleted. 788 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 3: I didn't see anything. 789 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 2: No, I don't look well, I saw it. I mean 790 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 2: it was it was basically he called Richard Sherman a 791 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 2: bunch of names. I can't say you called him Corning 792 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 2: Goofy all of those days as a young man, and 793 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: he is and he has his platform, which is his phone, 794 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 2: that he could sit there and he can type out 795 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: what he wants. And again that's why I talk about 796 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: a kid having thick skin, because when it comes from 797 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 2: like when it comes from media guys, then you're not 798 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: gonna say anything, right. 799 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 3: Because that's what they are paid to do. That's what 800 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: they do. 801 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 2: And Richard Sherman is now part of the media, but 802 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 2: I think everybody looks at him as Richard Sherman from 803 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 2: the Legion of Doom, the guy who's you know, guys 804 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: should be going to the Hall of Fame, all of 805 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 2: those great things that he's done, and it hits home 806 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 2: when you hear it from that. But Richard Sherman can't 807 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 2: stand on the platform and act as though he's been 808 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 2: perfect as a cornerback. I mean, you got tape out 809 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 2: there Richard Sherman getting burned, you know. So I mean 810 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: it's not like guys don't have bad games. And I 811 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: think that's unfortunate and unfair about where we are media wise. 812 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 2: When an ex player can attack a guy that's currently 813 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: doing it, and it's not as though he is having 814 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 2: a piss poor year. He is playing his tail off 815 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 2: and trying to put a lot of that stuff behind them, 816 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 2: but they won't let him forget it. 817 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: You can't. 818 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 8: You can't have aberrations when you're pickings, and you cannot 819 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 8: have those because they're gonna look at that as your pattern. 820 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 8: They're not gonna look at it as a one off thing. 821 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 8: So he's gonna have to deal with that for the 822 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 8: rest of this year, probably for the rest of his career, 823 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 8: because they're gonna always bring up something that happened in 824 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 8: the past, and especially a parting of the ways from 825 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 8: a coach like Thomlins. 826 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 3: That's something that they're take they're taking. 827 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 6: A look at what was the wide receiver the Cowboys 828 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 6: head he was from Pittsburgh or they sent him to Pittsburgh. 829 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 6: They got it through the towel at Parson Bryant, Antonio 830 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 6: Atonio Bryant. Yeah, once he did that, that's it. 831 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 5: That's your reputation, right and you you'll you'll never. 832 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 3: Please don't compare him to that game. 833 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying. 834 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 6: Example, once you do something like that, it stay. And 835 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 6: if you do something else then it's like, well he's 836 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 6: done this, this, and this is. 837 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 8: One thing that I saw with Pickens. It was never confrontational. 838 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 8: It was always isolation, right, And that's to me, that's 839 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 8: a credit to him, right, because if you want to, 840 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 8: you can instead of going to sitting in the weight room, 841 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 8: because I always remember that they said he just sat 842 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 8: in the weight room, didn't want to talk to reporters. 843 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 8: Instead of just sitting in the weight room not blowing 844 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 8: up at anybody, he could have come out and say 845 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 8: start going off on reporters. He could have done that, 846 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 8: but I don't think I've ever heard him really shout 847 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 8: anything in anger at anyone. 848 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 6: Well, it's like Terrell Owens, you know when he would 849 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 6: do his interviews in that locker room and he was 850 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 6: getting baited all the time. 851 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 5: Right, And I'm sitting there going, you know that commercial 852 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 5: on TV. It was a I think it was a. 853 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 6: Phone commercial or something Tony Dungey and he had a 854 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 6: helmet on and he was talking to the guy that 855 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 6: was in the car with his date and he was 856 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,879 Speaker 6: telling them what to say. 857 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 5: Right. 858 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 6: And when I'm watching, when I'm watching him trying to 859 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 6: take on fifteen media people, I'm sitting there going, if 860 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 6: I just had that helmet on, I'm telling them what 861 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 6: to say, right, I could tell them what to say. 862 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 3: Get out of this. 863 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, and don't be confrontational, because you can't win when 864 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 6: fifteen people are. 865 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 8: Has Pickings been interviewed in regards to this at all. 866 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 5: I didn't see after the game. 867 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 4: He did talk after the game. 868 00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 5: I didn't comment. 869 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 4: I heard from one of our producers at CBS. He 870 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 4: said he told me I didn't go back and listen 871 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 4: to it, but he said, you need to go listen 872 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 4: to it because he handled himself. 873 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 5: Well, all right, yeah, excellent, and now he's going to 874 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 5: have to do it again. 875 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 6: And I'm saying, next question, don't even address it. 876 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 2: What's crazy, though, is that inn example of Terrell Owens 877 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 2: being easy to be baited. Right, you don't question you, 878 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 2: you're questioning his effort, his professionalism as a football player. 879 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 2: And you're saying, man, you ran that slant half asked 880 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 2: whatever because there was a linebacker weight and you didn't 881 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 2: want to get smacked in the mouth. But you don't 882 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: know if the coverage, the play or whatever. I've dictated 883 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: him running the route that way meant that he would 884 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: run it that way. And so when he turns to 885 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 2: a media guy and say, you don't know what the 886 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 2: hell you're talking about, then that throws the whole thing 887 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 2: off because oh, now he has an attitude, or now 888 00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: he didn't answer these questions directly, just make a and 889 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: sometimes you just make a mistake and sometimes you misread 890 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 2: the defense. Yeah, sometimes you don't know he's coming at 891 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 2: you until like, oops, there's a ball And it's. 892 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 6: No offense to X players that are announcers. But because 893 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 6: they've got X on there, that means they know everything, 894 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 6: and it's not always the truth. I had a person 895 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 6: that was in charge of radio broadcasts and we were 896 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 6: talking about being a color analyst on the radio, and 897 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 6: I was told that I would never hire a reporter 898 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 6: that hadn't played football to do the job. And it's like, 899 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 6: so because they played, they know and I wasn't using myself, right, 900 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 6: but they know more than me that has watched football 901 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 6: for fifty years, right because they played. 902 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 5: And uh, we. 903 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 6: Got into a pretty good discussion about But that's what's 904 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 6: the attitude out there. Your ex you know what you're 905 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 6: talking about. Sometimes you don't. 906 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 8: Sometimes that stuff is personal, Yeah, sometimes personal, there's. 907 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 3: Stuff going on that with the podcast and everything. A 908 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 3: lot of personal stuff going on there. Yeah, everybody's trying 909 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 3: to rewrite history. 910 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 5: Especially guys. 911 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 3: Why I got That's why I got Bill here. When 912 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 3: I try to he stops me. 913 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 4: Well, we've got just a couple of minutes left. So 914 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 4: if we hit anything on the run. 915 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,840 Speaker 3: Now, no, oh, run down this. 916 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 4: We got a lot of time this. We got three 917 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 4: shows left this week. We're going to dive into. 918 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: The minnisoda like Vikings. 919 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, there are some things to look forward to the 920 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 4: rest of the way. Yeah, justin Jefferson problem. Yeah, best 921 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 4: wide receiver in the NFL. How do you defend him? 922 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 4: Can you survive him? Versus stop him? Who must step up? 923 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,320 Speaker 4: Bland revel secondary scheme. 924 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 2: I mean, all these great points, man, all these great 925 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 2: things to talk about. 926 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,360 Speaker 4: Cowboys defensive keys must stop the run to control the 927 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 4: game flow. Forced JJ McCarthy into mistakes. How about that? 928 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy comes back the week before they played the 929 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 4: Cowboys and all of a sudden they win and gave 930 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 4: thirty one to nothing. 931 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 6: And they have the twenty eighth ranked offense and twenty 932 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 6: sixth ranked scoring team. 933 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 3: Well, that season just started last week, so and. 934 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 4: They got guys back on defens This Van Ginkle is 935 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 4: a handful, right, So he's a playmaker and he made 936 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 4: a play last week against Washington Peat Washington. 937 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: Oh Van Ginkle, he's from Miami for the Dolphins. 938 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 4: Dolphins. Yeah, so Frian Floris had him there and now 939 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 4: he's got him and by tomorrow I'll find out what 940 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,640 Speaker 4: high school he went to. 941 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure you don't have you have it down. I 942 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 2: wanted to talk about the offense before we even got 943 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 2: around the Brian flores Is defense, because that's the problem. 944 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,520 Speaker 2: That's that is what the legit problem in this game 945 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 2: is going to be his defensive scheme and coming out 946 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 2: to dak what kind of pressure he's going to present present. 947 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: But we know dak Is is the man when you 948 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 2: blitz them. 949 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 4: You know what it is. Schottenheimer will tell you it's 950 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 4: unscouted looks, right, That's right, that's for Brian Flores specializes 951 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 4: in unscouted looks. It means that there's not stuff on 952 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 4: there's different stuff than what is on tape. 953 00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 2: At this point in the season, I think you sound good. 954 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,279 Speaker 3: Using right now. 955 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 2: Oh good, it's just coach talk. 956 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 4: Unscouted looks, all right? I think we're out of time. 957 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 4: I think we've done some damage here. Hopefully on will 958 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: listen to this. 959 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, because we'll send it to them. 960 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 3: We'll send it to it. 961 00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 5: All right, very good, you got them unscouted, Big Nate 962 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 5: fan Frisco. 963 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 3: He can send it to it, that's. 964 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, unscouted. 965 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 5: Looks you should have used them because you're five and eight. 966 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 2: Said, it's been about time to use it now, All 967 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 2: good going, all right? 968 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 3: Does it for? Mick? 969 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 4: Shots will shut at you again tomorrow at. 970 00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 2: Noon, O Cowboys. 971 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 972 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.