1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the player's label, 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Now your hosts Buried Church, Danny McCrae, and new he scrugs. 5 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, hump day, hump day weekner. How boys 6 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: getting ready to face the Atlanta Falcons. And here on 7 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: the players last, we have a special guests. I'm knew 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: he's scrugs, by the way, joined by former Cowboys saying 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: he's Danny McCray and Buried Church. This show brought to 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: you by Hotels dot Com. And let's bring in the 11 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: guru right now. He is playing Will McClay, who is 12 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: gonna drop some knowledge on us because there's a lot 13 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: of moving parts going on here with the Cowboys. You 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: guys have question, So all right, Church, take it away. 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: We're going ahead. We're gonna let Danny go ahead and 16 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: take it away. I think he had a great first 17 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: question for Will. And by the way, Will, I mean 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: most of our viewers they already know you as the guru, 19 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: the guy that brings all the talent into the Dallas Cowboys. 20 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: But little known fact for our listeners. Will McClay on 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: the side is an amazing DJ. If you want your 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: playlist right, that's the man you gotta talk to. Get 23 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: you for the jogs, He get you for the workout, 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: anything you need. My man is an amazing DJ. Man. 25 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: A little no fact, just a little no fact. I'm 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: just a DJ forth that earns you know. There we go, 27 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: nah man, Yeah, so hey, we'll listen. We definitely appreciate 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: you for coming off first. And I'm gonna say it 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: personally for myself when I played, I know that you 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: always looked out for me. So I definitely appreciate that. 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: And Church the same because you have to go find 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: both of us to get us to come on. So 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it. But so lead lead from that. We'll leading that. 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: I guess the at least to our next question is 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: so speaking with Jerry Jones and hearing what he said about, 36 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, working in the house to find some replacements 37 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: for some of the guys who are injured. Just trying 38 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: to like pick your brain and see like what what's 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: the process for deciding if you're going to go in house, 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: and how you how you kind of evaluate those guys 41 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: to see if they're able to be starters for the 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: remainder of the season or however long they need to 43 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: be starters, versus going you know, outside to go find talent. 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's really next man up first off, 45 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: because when you have a roster and guys that have 46 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: been working on things and all that we didn't have 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: a full preseason. The players that you have, hopefully you 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: get the right ones to start with. They learn kind 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: of what they're doing, uh, and then the coaches have 50 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: to look at the players that we have and see 51 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: how we're going to use the guys that are on 52 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 1: the roster. If they're serviceable, serviceable for us to run 53 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: the offense or defense, or be able to adjust and 54 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: still do what we do, we go in house. If 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: it's something that's a little bit more concerning, we would 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: go out, you know and try and find somebody that 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: fits specific what they were looking for. The best part 58 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: about it, though, is going back to the draft and 59 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: working with coach McCarthy and the staff is get us 60 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: good football players. If we got good football players, you know, 61 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: then the coaches can find places to put them in, 62 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: things to do to work within the scheme. Well why. Well, 63 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: for me, my question would have to be, well, you know, 64 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, you've you've dealt with and you've been around 65 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: playing plenty of secondaries and including some of our better 66 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: secondaries when I was there, and some of our worst secondaries. 67 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: But for my question is what did you think of 68 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: the play of this young secondary for a Week one? 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I know they're young, they have some experience 70 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: back there, but they're pretty young. M what did you 71 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: feel like their play was for the Week one and 72 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: against the Rams? I felt like, you know, for the 73 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: whole team, it was kind of a new deal. Was 74 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: like the first preseason game, and it seemed like because 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: now you're out there live and so there were some 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: things technically that we didn't complete all the way, but 77 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: you see the opportunity to grow, and you see some 78 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: of the plays that they may you know that there's 79 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: gonna be some guys that just sep up and do things. 80 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: And then we're getting Jay Lou back and so there's 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: a bunch of flexibility and versatility within the defense. So 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: if they just hit the queues and in La was 83 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: playing the game more lateral than vertical, So it was 84 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: probably the way that the guys stepped up. And you 85 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: know dbs, especially corners. You safety's tackle, but corners don't 86 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: like to tackle. But our corners stepped up and tackle 87 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: and played well they did. And for our viewers out there, 88 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: can you can explain what you meant by the Rams 89 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: playing more of a lateral game than a vertical game. Yeah, 90 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: you know, typically you want to see that they didn't 91 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: want to face our pass rush, and so they ran 92 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: a lot of screens and a lot of their passes 93 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: were under three to four yards, so you know, the 94 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: pass rush wasn't able to get there, and they were 95 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: playing the game sideline. The sideline, they were trying to 96 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: make us run laterally as opposed to vertically, you know, 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: running the deeper routes and doing those sort of things. Okay, okay, 98 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: And then part two of my question, I should have 99 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: prefaced it by saying there was two parts to it. 100 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: But with the addition of Brandon Carter, what do you 101 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: think a better like him? You know, he's a consummate pro. 102 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: He pretty much can show you the ropes of how 103 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: to watch film, how to break down things. But what 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: do you think he can bring to this Dallas Cowboy secondary? Yeah, 105 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: he brings that leadership like you talked about number one, 106 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: and you know, with a group of young guys, you know, 107 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: there's there's something that you have to learn about being 108 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: a pro, like you said, like watching the tape about 109 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: how to prepare, you know, what to expect those things. 110 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: So he brings that knowledge, but also his ability to 111 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: play all over and one of the things that we're 112 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: looking for in the defensive versatility, the way the game 113 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: is played offensively now you know, it's about matchups and 114 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: doing those things. So he's just another piece. He can 115 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: play nicol, he can play the dime linebacker, he can 116 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: play safety. You know, he can play free, you can 117 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: play strong. So I think with all of that that 118 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: experience he has, he understands the things that can happen him, 119 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: communicate well and help these young guys, you know, as 120 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: we go into the next phase of it. Well, cool, gotcha. 121 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: And then for me, you know, just looking forward, I mean, 122 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: I know you're not coach McCarthy, but just just to 123 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of get your idea on a few things that 124 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: we may be able to do better to, you know, 125 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: to perform a little bit better as we move on 126 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: in the season, right, because I know we had a 127 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: few issues with the run, and like you said, this 128 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: team that they didn't want to face our pass for us, 129 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: so they want to go sideline the sideline. So I 130 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: would imagine that, you know, a few teams will watch 131 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: the film and try to do the same thing as 132 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: the Rams did. So just just your idea on some 133 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: things that we could possibly do better to negate teams 134 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: that come in and think that that'll be the way 135 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: to beat us. I think, you know, from every experience, 136 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: you learn and we understand that, you know, they were 137 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: running more of the zone scheme, trying to get us 138 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: to go lateral those things up front. So when you 139 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: go and you adjust, uh know, like we did in 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: the second half, from from limiting them being able to 141 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: score and limiting the run some we're playing a little 142 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: bit faster upfront and then in the secondary, you just 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: there's there's a number of different things that we can 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: do differently. It's it's you know, we're gonna play a 145 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: little bit more man coverage if you mix your man's 146 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: and your zones together the right way, and you you 147 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: dial up your fronts a little bit different. Not to 148 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: get into any sort of scheme wise stuff, but I 149 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: just think we have to play with more consistency, your 150 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: more urgency early on, right and so, and I mentioned that, 151 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, so we got a new DC. Everything's pretty 152 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: much new, new defensive coordinator news, especially coordinator, new offense. Uh, 153 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, Kelling is in the second year. But you 154 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: got you know, a little little stuff from Mike McCarthy 155 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: coming in. My thought was that just like when Rob 156 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: Ryan came in and we had the lockout and we've 157 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: missed the entire offseason, it was a little difficult for 158 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: us to pick up the defense because we didn't have 159 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: as much time to install and get those rips. So, 160 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: you know, just me watching the game, I didn't see 161 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: as much you know, exotic type stuff. So I just 162 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: imagine that that stuff will come in. Do you see 163 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: these guys being able to you know, were they able 164 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: to pick up I guess everything that that that that 165 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: was thrown at them throughout training camp. Yeah, they've done 166 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 1: a good job of picking things up. And there's uh, 167 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: you know when when you say, geez, get me good players, um, 168 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: and we'll fit the scheme around it. There's multiple parts 169 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: of the scheme that the players have to learn too. So, 170 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, first time in live action doing all that stuff. 171 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: It does take some time. And just like you said that, uh, 172 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: you know like when Rob came in, uh that that year. Uh, 173 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: it was new things that you had to do. Well 174 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: you think about it, Um, the guys are going through 175 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: those steps and kind of understanding the defense. And you 176 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: think so many of our players that we're coming back 177 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: from last year. We're in the old scheme and it's 178 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: different from going verticals and now, you know, especially upfront, 179 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: to playing more two gap and playing more flat. So 180 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: you have to continue to get those game reps to 181 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: get that skill set down to to you know, to 182 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: understanding to play the new scheme. And guys are getting it. 183 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's that you know, like Tyrone 184 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Crawford was saying to me, it's like, hey man, we 185 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: were so used to going up field that you know, 186 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: for your first instinct is this, you know, to play 187 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: it that way. But the more reps you get, the 188 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: better you'll get at it. And a new opponent is 189 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: going to bring new challenges. So it's just everybody being 190 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: on the same page that that's really perfect man, because 191 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: because and I said it, just because from experience, it's 192 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: difficult for like if you get into like week three 193 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: and you and your team is not able to stop 194 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: the run, right, usually like for the rest of the season, 195 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: you're just knowing as the team is not able to 196 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: stop the run. It's hard to be to be able 197 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: to fix that after you get into the season. But 198 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: when you go into you know, the explanation that you 199 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: gave man, and it makes me feel more positive about 200 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: it because it's like, it's some things that we can change. 201 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: The familiarity with the scheme and you know, old ways 202 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: have to turn into new ways or things that we 203 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: can fix and help us become, you know, a dominant 204 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: run stopping team versus hey, man, we just we're just 205 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: not physical. We can't stop the run. We're just out 206 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: of place, right. So it's it's things to look forward to. 207 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: It's definitely things to look forward to. The thing that 208 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: I feel good about is that you have people that 209 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: can do the and then their commitment to doing it. 210 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: It's just like out there at practice today, you know, defensively, 211 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: you have enough veteran leadership and guys that have been 212 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: around and have pride in what they do that are 213 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: going to force each other to get better and eliminate 214 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: the mistakes and do the things that's necessary for a 215 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: team to overcome the You know, some of the things 216 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: from last week will be much better this week because 217 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: the guys are taking it on themselves. And that's the 218 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: thing I'm most proud of is the people that you 219 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: bring in and how they push each other to be 220 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: better and hold each other accountable. Dope, Yeah, I'm meaning it. 221 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead. I thought I dropped the mic. I'm trying 222 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: to let the guys ask the questions here because it's 223 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: their show. But can you help me in two situations here? 224 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: One with Sean Lee having surgery here talk, can you 225 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: give us some information more about your you know, what 226 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: you're doing to reinforce the livebacker spot? And also is 227 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis expected to play against Atlanta on Sunday? Yeah, 228 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Jordan's taking reps. Uh Luke Gifford, who didn't play last week, 229 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: He's taken reps. You know, Joe Thomas stepped in. We 230 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, we've got players that we feel like can 231 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: come in and fill in the spots. You never replace 232 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: a Layton vander Ess or a Sean Lee, but the 233 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: guys that come in, they can do their deal. As 234 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: well and fit into the defense. Well, that's why we 235 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: kept them here, so I expect them to step up 236 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: and play. This their time to shine too. All Right, 237 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: on one thing that we've had people talking about, and 238 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: you get the overreaccents the first game and it's just 239 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: cowboy nation and they want to go overboard. But I've 240 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: heard people say, well, maybe this time to put Carter 241 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: Williams and tackle and then maybe put Joe Louie at 242 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: guard to put it. I mean, people want all kinds 243 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: of changes here on the old line after what we 244 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: tell people the process of what training camp is like 245 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: and what combinations guys are used to, and that you 246 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: just kind of don't throw out the whole thing after 247 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: one week because you lost by three. No, we believe 248 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: in the people that we have and they have to 249 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: improve what they're doing. We have to help them out 250 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: with some of the things we're doing and with it's 251 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: like riding a bike. The first time you wrote it, 252 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: you might have skin your needa first time. Now the 253 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: second time you got better, The third time you got better. 254 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: We feel good about the group. No, it's not Leo 255 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: Collins out there and some of the stuff, but these 256 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: guys are paid to do, you know, to do their jobs, 257 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: and that's what we expect to do well. You can't 258 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: just switch everything around. It's not fantasy football. You can't 259 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: take a piece and put it into place and think 260 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: that everything runs consistently from the beginning. Um, you know, 261 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: it's like you go into your job. If you've got 262 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: somebody new working next to you, you you have to figure 263 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: them out and you still have to do your job. 264 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: And that's that's where we're at right now, and we 265 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: feel better about it, and we have to continue to 266 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: do things to uh, you know, work to use our 267 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: strengths to you know, to the positive and overcome some 268 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: of the negatives by doing some things that way schematically. 269 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: And that's what all our teams are going to have 270 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: to do. The teams that are wanting to know, they're 271 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: gonna have problems next week and then everybody will be 272 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: talking about them. So it is a marathon, not a sprint. 273 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask one more question. This is talking about 274 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: the tight end Blake Jarwin, who's a guy you identified 275 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: two years ago as a player, really liked him and 276 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: we all thought this was going to be the breakout season. 277 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: But he's out for the year. With a torn acl 278 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: You helped draft Dalton Schultz, he's the backup. How does 279 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: coach McCarthy and Kellen Moore, how did they coach him 280 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: up to be able to now take over this role 281 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: that Blake Jarwin had. I mean, I think we're going 282 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,319 Speaker 1: to do it by committee. You know, Blake Jarwin broughts 283 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: something something a little bit different, that element to threaten 284 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: the seam, you know, from the tight end position. Dalton 285 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 1: can do some of those things. Maybe we do it formationally. 286 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: We have other weapons that can you know, achieve the 287 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: same kind of what Blake's role might have been on 288 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: some plays. We have different ways of setting it up 289 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: and doing that. I think you never replace him. But 290 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: then we use the strength of Blake Bell, Dalton Schultz, 291 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Sean McKeon, you know, we use those guys and maybe 292 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: some of the other receivers. There's just a different way 293 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: to attack it. But great Church, what else you got form? 294 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: Will McClay, I'm good. I mean I think he pretty 295 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: much hit on all figures. I mean, as always, he's 296 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: a proud what he does. Man. Thank you once again, 297 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: Will for us stepping on the player's lines with us. 298 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: I got to appreciate it. Yeah, one question for you. No, no, no, 299 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: it's and it has nothing to do with football. The 300 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Rockets are out. You know, we both agtown guys, right, 301 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: So we still have we still have we still have 302 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: to pick somebody to win. Who's winning the NBA Championship 303 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: this year. I hate to say it, but it's probably 304 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: gonna be the Lake Show. But he he didn't surprised me. 305 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: That he didn't surprised me. Uh. And the way they play, 306 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: and that's one of those deals where that's a great 307 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: story and looking at a team coming together when people 308 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: didn't think you know, that whole deal. And before I leave, 309 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to say the reason why I love coming 310 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: on this show and seeing Danny McCray and Burry Churches players. No, 311 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, I used to always go to them and practice. 312 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: We would talk about a guy, a young guy coming 313 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: in and what are you thinking? And it's just like 314 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: on this radio show. You guys work together and do 315 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: well and enjoy listening to you and doing those things. 316 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: And I'm proud to be part of the old dB crew. 317 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm the oldest of the crew. Yes, all right, DJ 318 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: will so so I need your professional opinion is better 319 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: Tupac or Biggie who you got? Oh yeah, you can't 320 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: do that to me. No trouble, trouble, no, No. I 321 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: am from the South, so we typically liked the West 322 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: Coast when I was younger, but Biggie was the guy. 323 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Was the guy to me. Biggie was the okay, was 324 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: the guy that I'm talking about East Coast coast representative. 325 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm I'm really, I'm really, I'm really scarface, 326 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: So don't even go there. Okay, all right, okay, I've 327 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: never seen a man cry till usen a man die. Okay, scarface. 328 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: So we have another player's lounge kind of debate at times. 329 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: Will and went away in on this. Danny and Barry 330 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: love the movie Life with Eddie Murphy. I don't think 331 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: it is a better movies at all. I'm down on Life. 332 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: So where do you stand on that movie? Like I 333 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: quote Life, Maybe it's because I spent time around them 334 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: young fellows, but I watched Life, and I actually watched 335 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: Life with my son. Oh, I don't know. During the 336 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: we were staying at home and we were both dying laughing. 337 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: It's it's not it's not as funny as Harlem Nights, 338 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: it's top five? Is it Eddie top five? Okay, because 339 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't think it's. Oh, there's no question, there's no questions. 340 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: There's no question because because because of all of the 341 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: Beverly Hills cops, they all run together. So that's one 342 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: movie right there. So okay, yeah, yeah, So so it's life, 343 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: it's Harlem Knights. Um, it's that one where he was 344 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: talking to the tree. Now I'm just kidding. Thanks, it's three. 345 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: What's your top five new? What's your what's your top 346 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: five new? Okay? From from my Eddie Murphy h forty 347 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: eight hours. Loved that when he played Reggie Hammond in 348 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: there Beverly Hills Cop. Beverly Hills Cop is in there. 349 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Um one that the guys shot me down on. But 350 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: I think was was really an Oscar performance and he 351 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: should have won. It was when Eddie Murphy played in 352 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: dream Girls. He was fantastic playing that character Jimmy in 353 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: that movie. I thought he was sensation. You watched that 354 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: with your wife, See there's a difference. Watch you talk 355 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: about the ones with the colors. No, no, I did not. 356 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: I did not watch that with my wife. I actually 357 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: watched that on the road in my car driving from 358 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: Dallas foot or to Austin. What you yeah, Yeah, that's 359 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: like I thought it was so good. Yeah, you only 360 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: watched ten minutes of it because you were watching. I 361 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: watched the whole thing. I watched the whole thing in 362 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: my car because Lusaka Polite and some other guys um 363 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: had this hook up with a with a car guy 364 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: and they could go ahead and switch your screens that 365 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: you could actually watch your screen while you dropped while 366 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: I drove, So remind me to never drive when you're 367 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: on the highway. Knew it because you might be watching 368 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: a movie and it might be a tear jerker. I 369 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,479 Speaker 1: don't want to be on the road. He gonna be 370 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: called the correct, he gonna be calling the correct Cowboy. 371 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: You keep all right. We're late for our break. We're 372 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: late for our break. We'll thank you so much for 373 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: stopping by, and we appreciate talking in cowboy football and 374 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: other things with you. My man. I'll have a good one. 375 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: We'll well, we'll be looking for Cowboys victories. They take 376 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: on Atlanta, the first first game with home game with 377 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: ye Jerry World. Thank you, buddy, appreciate all right. That's 378 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: Will McClay here on the Players Labs with Neuis Scrugs, 379 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: Danny McCray and Barry Church. We've got to take our 380 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 1: first break right here on the Players Launch brought to 381 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: you by Hotels dot Com. 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I always enjoyed my 428 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: football conversations with him, and hopefully you guys enjoyed what 429 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: we brought to you as well. Danny, Barry, tell me 430 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: what stood out from you from what we heard from 431 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Will McClay. For me, we stood out the most is 432 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: how how firm he was on the belief of, you know, 433 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: they have to bring him in house. I mean it 434 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: seems like when I'm talking about in house, I'm talking 435 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: about bringing up with the injuries of you know, Blake 436 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Jarwin and Lvee and Sean Lee. It stood out to 437 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: me that they all had that same philosophy. It's like, look, 438 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: we gotta look in house first to bring it up. 439 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: And he basically broke down the whole situation, like how 440 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: they go from training camp to or from you know, well, 441 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: this year it was just training camp, and however you 442 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: can't just you know, put pieces here and here like 443 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: this fantasy football. These guys have jailed together through all 444 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: of camp and they got to figure it out that way. 445 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: So definitely bringing it up through in house and I 446 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty interesting. Yeah, And for me, I 447 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: think it was it brought me from the disappointing Monday 448 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: morning quarterback to you know, feeling more positive about what 449 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: we have going forward, right because I watched the game 450 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: and as upset as I was, you know, watching us 451 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: not being able to stop, to run and do certain things, 452 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: it brought me back to you know, he said, riding 453 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: a bike, right, the first time you get on, you 454 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 1: might you might scratch your knee up, and you do 455 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: have to realize that we didn't tackle, we didn't really hit, 456 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: we didn't have preseason. There's a lot of stuff that 457 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: we didn't do that we normally do, and it just 458 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: you know, he made me feel like it just showed 459 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: up in Game one. And you know, as we as 460 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: we progressed through the season, we should be able to 461 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: fix some of those things, right, the players not being 462 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: used to two gaping and being in Twitter from a 463 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: two one gap to a two gap and those type 464 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: of things, those are really big changes, right, So it'll 465 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: take them from time to learn that. So I won't 466 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: I won't so much expect them to turn it around 467 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: this week. I expect them to play better, but as 468 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: the as the year goes on, I think they'll be 469 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: able to pick that up and get rid of those 470 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: always and uh you know and buying and be able 471 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: to compete in this new defense. I first met Will 472 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: McClay when he was the Dallas Desperadoes head football coach. 473 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: Well actually was assisted then he ended up taking over 474 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: for Joe Avazano and they were really good football team. 475 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: And so getting to talk to Will and seeing how 476 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: he actually ran a team in the confidence the guys 477 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: had in him, um, that's where I first got to 478 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 1: meet him. So I know he knows his football and 479 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: the understanding of the game. I just really liked how 480 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: what Barry was saying. He set us straight because after 481 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: the first week, you know, he got people want to 482 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: fire Kelly Moore, people that were well throw running, take 483 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: out steel, put right, put put Carter Williams at the 484 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 1: right tackle spot, moved Joe Luny off center, put in 485 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: a rookie. I mean, all these changes after one game 486 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: in which you lost by three points. We saw other 487 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: people get destroyed week one. The Cowboys are right there 488 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: till the very end of this football game, and I'm 489 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: wearing this. Dallas Stars had congratulations and the Stars they 490 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: won the West. They're gonna go play for the Stanley 491 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Cup four wins away. And one thing that I'm reminded 492 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: about is how their season started. Guys, the Stars were 493 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: one seven and one to start the season. People were saying, 494 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, this team's no good. These guys don't have 495 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: any heart, and they got it. It's a long sports 496 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: or a long season. We like everybody to start out 497 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: with a bang. But guess what Cowboys started out three 498 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: and old. Last year. People sitting there talking about Super 499 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: Bowl and this is not a team that ended up 500 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:44,199 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen making the playoffs. So just just hold on, Okay, 501 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: hold on football teams take a while ago. Yes, yes, 502 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: mccraig ahead, No, No, I want to. I want to 503 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: make this clear while we're on the show. I was 504 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: specifically talking about the defense what I saw office. I 505 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: am still not happy with the play calling, you know, 506 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: some of that that it had nothing to do with 507 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: the players being out there and being able to take 508 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: contact right, And I was specifically talking about us not 509 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: being able to stop the run, and it turned not 510 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: us not being able to rush the passer and having 511 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: an opportunity to some of the stuff I saw offense. 512 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: I still feel the same way that I felt on 513 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: Monday about it. My mind can be changed. But I 514 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: was specifically just talking about the defense, you know it 515 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: shuffling up re shuffling in the old line and all 516 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: that stuff. I don't think so. But I was specifically 517 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: talking about us utilizing our playmakers to stretch the feel 518 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: and make big plays. So you're still mad, No, I 519 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: was mad. I was mad when I'm confused, and then 520 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully on Sunday, I'm no longer confused. I'm either 521 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: what I what I'm thinking is right or I was like, 522 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. All right, now we're putting are we putting 523 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: some real stuff in? Okay? All right, all right, Well 524 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: it's Wednesday, and and Mike McCarthy already said his press 525 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: conference said they're moving forward. You can't do anything else 526 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: about the Ram game. It's time to go ahead and 527 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: go to Atlanta. And one of the differences, and I 528 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: thought Will McClay pointed out very well, the Rams have 529 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: decided we are going to go with quick passes. We're 530 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: not going to allow your pass rushers to We're not 531 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: gonna get in that game. We're not going to have 532 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: our quarterback dropping back doing five seven step drops. Well, 533 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: we know Atlanta with Maddie Ice, he likes to go 534 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: ahead and drop back and sling that thing. So the 535 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: matchup this week, if Atlanta doesn't change, if they go 536 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: out there and do what they did against Seattle, this 537 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: can play into the Cowboys hands. It's going to be 538 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: fun to see exactly how both defenses, okay, both defenses 539 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: have warts, how they slow this down. I expect the 540 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: high scoring game between the Cowboys and the Falcons because 541 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: both teams have some really good receiving weapons in this 542 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: game here, so I'm looking forward to Yeah, I'm looking 543 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: forward to it as well. And like you said, it 544 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: was it was very interesting that how he broke that down, 545 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: how they wanted to play more lateral instead of a 546 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: vertical and I think that was a great point and 547 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: MC they did a great job coaching that, but it 548 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: took basically, they took the aggressiveness from the defensive line 549 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: because if you if you don't have time to get 550 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: back there, if you start to get frustrated and then 551 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: you say, Okay, how else can I impact this game? 552 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: Maybe if I put my hands up and jumped in, 553 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, try to bat balls and everything, but then 554 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: that takes away from your pass rush. So I have 555 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: to think the Rams did a great job of basically, 556 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: like Will said, playing ladder onstead of vertical. Now with Atlanta, 557 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: I think they're more of a vertical team. You always 558 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: see Maddie Ice back there taking those five step drops 559 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 1: rather than those three step jobs. So I think that 560 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: plays into the hand of our defensive line. I think 561 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: we can be a little bit more aggressive this week, 562 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully we can get after Matt Ryan because we're 563 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna need to. Yeah, I still feel the same I 564 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: think that the that the Falcons can actually run some 565 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: of the same stuff that the that the Rams ran. 566 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: So if we have to adjust and we have to 567 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: prepare to see this throughout the rest of the season, 568 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: teams trying to negate our pass rush by getting the 569 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: ball out quick and possibly running lad eally. So you know, defensively, 570 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: our defensive line and linebackers like the number one focus 571 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: is being able to stop the run because those sharp 572 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: passes don't work. You can't do that all game if 573 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: you aren't able to pick up three and four your 574 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: games on runs consistently, So we're still going to have 575 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: to stop it. Okay, stay with me there, Danny, on 576 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: your point. I was talking to a former coaching player 577 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: who said to me one of the issues that the 578 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys had was from a defensive backstandpoint, if you know, 579 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: all right, they're going to go quick, all right, And 580 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: Jared Golf was basically wherever he looked, he threw the ball. 581 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: So if he took the snapstartered looking left, he was 582 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: throwing left. His feeling was that the Cowboy dbs needed 583 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 1: to play up closer, and he said, because they were 584 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: not trying to go over the top, they weren't trying 585 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: to throw deep because they were getting rid of the 586 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: football quicker. So if they're doing that, why not play 587 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: up on them closer? And so that'll go ahead, go ahead. Well, well, 588 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: see that that's what the rams do. That's great, right, 589 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: So they get you in these tight formations, and as dbs, 590 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: what happens was when you put the receivers so tight, 591 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: dbs have to get on different levels, right, So it's 592 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: difficult for them to get up and press every play 593 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: because that would create a lot of pick routs. And 594 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure that McBay had some options to where we're 595 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: pressing all the time, they'll figure out a way to 596 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: pick us and run wheelwrights and get the get the 597 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: ball deep down the field. So it's just something that 598 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to scheme up and you know, figure 599 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: out how to blitz them and stop the run and 600 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: get them out of those type formations and make them 601 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: run a true offense down the field. All right, we've 602 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: got to squeeze in another break right here on the 603 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: Players Lounge, brought to you by Hotels dot Com. When 604 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: we get back, let's get into Randy Gregory, Sean Lee 605 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: and Jordan Lewis and Cowboys News. There Knewy Scruggs. 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Back here for another segment of the Player Round. 652 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: Danny McCray, Barry Church, former Cowboys Safeties join me every 653 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: day at two thirty pm. And I'm just merely Knewy Scrugs, 654 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: longtime Cowboys reporter. We are in our SWBC Mortgage virtual 655 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: home studios. Here all right, Sean Lee, cowboy linebacker. We 656 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: were thinking was gonna come off the ir after three games. 657 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: That's not gonna happen. He's gonna be on longer. He 658 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: had surgery for a sports hernia there. So what is 659 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: the concern level, Danny McCray, because we have Sean Lee 660 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 1: out for an extended time and Layton vander Esh two 661 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: of your top three linebackers not going to be in 662 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: the lineup for a minute. For me, it's a pretty 663 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: big concern. Like I said, I know, I keep harping 664 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: on being able to stop the run, but we need 665 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: linebackers that are able to get in there and take 666 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: on those blocks and stop the run. And when LV 667 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: goes down, you you you assume that you have a 668 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: pretty strong backup and the Great Sean Lee, and then 669 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: now that he's out, now you possibly have to go 670 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: to it was a second year and then a rookie 671 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: player or somebody or if you go outside, somebody that's 672 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: not familiar with the defense. So I think it's a 673 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: big concern. But you know, like Will came on here 674 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: and I feel more positive about it that he believes 675 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: in the guys that we have in the locker room, 676 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: so you know, he's never let me down, so I'm 677 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: with him. To me, it's it's a little concerning, even 678 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: even with us with the stuff the Great Will had 679 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: had said to us earlier. I mean, we did struggle 680 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: a little bit versus the Rams versus a run, and 681 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: that just compounds even more with Lve going down, and 682 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: we don't have a backup with the capabilities like Sean 683 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: Lee who's experienced, who knows what to do and can 684 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: bring everybody together. We don't have that. So right now, 685 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: I think we got Joe Thomas as there in there 686 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: as as a backup with the in house bringing it up, 687 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: and he's he's a good but I see him more 688 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,359 Speaker 1: of that dime linebacker role, that that coverage type linebacker role. 689 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 1: I don't see him, you know, sticking his nose in 690 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: there and being a banger each and every down. And 691 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: then what happens if he goes down they were going back. 692 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: Then we've got to go to Luke Gifford, who I 693 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: think this is his second year in the league and 694 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: he hasn't had a lot of playing experience. So I'm 695 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: pretty concerned when it comes to this defense stopping the 696 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: run in that front seven. So hopefully they can find 697 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: something to get done for this week coming up against Atlanta. 698 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: I know their run game doesn't look as strong as 699 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: it did in years past, but Todd Gurley, I mean, 700 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: he might not be the Todd Gurley of old, but 701 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: he can still run the ball well. And we're gonna 702 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: need that linebacking corps in there to help stop it. 703 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 1: So hopefully they will have a solution by Sunday. The 704 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: shame of it is is something we spoke about before 705 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: the draft, talking about the linebacker situation. We said, hey, look, 706 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: you already know Sean Lee traditionally doesn't give you sixteen games. Okay, 707 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: it's just in his career he's only done at one time, 708 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: and with late vander Esh missing time that you had 709 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: two guys who if you're just being honest, you shouldn't 710 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,720 Speaker 1: look to to finish sixty football games. And we're already 711 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: at that point. If you're the Cowboys, obviously you patch 712 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,479 Speaker 1: work it and you deal with it. But you start 713 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: looking into the draft in twenty twenty one, this now 714 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: becomes another position you have to look at. You know 715 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,319 Speaker 1: you've got this. You've got the tight end spot because 716 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Blake Jarl's gonna be coming off at ACL. You gotta 717 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: look at the tackle spot here. You may have to 718 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: draft yourself a swing tackle. After watching Lell Collins deal, 719 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna miss games this year. He's on the ir 720 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: right now. We've seen tyre and miss mini games the 721 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: past three seasons. This you got issues man, and then 722 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: up front the defensive tackle spot. So it's just kind 723 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: of a it's a tough pill to swallow. And this 724 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 1: is where Mike Nolan's gonna earn his cash. How do 725 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: you fix your linebacking corps? Here? All teams are gonna 726 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: have issues to deal with, but right now, the Cowboys, 727 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: the linebacking corps gonna be interesting, and you've got to 728 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: tight end and hayten Hurst coming in here this week, 729 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: and Matt Ryan likes to isolate them. If he's putting 730 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas and Jalen Smith and different and coverage right now, 731 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: you've got to think that that's going to be an 732 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: advantage for the Falcons. Barry, well, yeah, let me and 733 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: let me ask you guys both the question, because I 734 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: want to see what you guys think about this. Now. 735 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: He did say Jordan, He did say Jordan Lewis could 736 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: have a great possibility of returning this week. So with 737 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: the mention, like you said, of hating hrs at tight end, 738 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: how he can stretch the field, how they can come 739 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: out in twelve personnel or twenty one personnel and stretch 740 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: the field with him at tight end. Do you feel 741 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: as though the Cowboys can go with a Nickel package 742 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,319 Speaker 1: versus base, seeing as though Jordan Lewis will be back 743 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: and he's good against the run. He's not that you know, 744 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: he's not a linebacker or anything like that, but he 745 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: can do good against the run. Plus it'll be able 746 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 1: for an extra cover person for hating Hurst. Do you 747 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 1: believe that's the approach that the Cowboys would go going 748 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 1: against this, this Atlanta Falcons offense. I don't, just because 749 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: we already have a problem stopping the run, so we 750 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: get out there in base and throw an eleven. I 751 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: think they're gonna be looking their chops. I'll tell you this. 752 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: The linebackers are getting keamed up right now in the 753 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons meeting room right now. They're pointing out who's 754 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: missing and what we showed a weakness, and they're out 755 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: there and they're scheming up everything to do that. So 756 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that will be a thing. Hopefully, you know, 757 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 1: in the perfect world, they would just bring in b 758 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 1: Car and let him be that safety that walks down 759 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: and covers and let the other safety room or figure 760 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: out out kind of how they did in Baltimore. That's 761 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: the solution I see. Especially if you get into eleven 762 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: and you're playing couple one, you need somebody cover of 763 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: tight end. I think Brandon caused the best person for 764 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: the job. Mccrayon with you one hundred percent. I'll tell 765 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: you where the pressure and who can help the defense 766 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: the most. On Sunday, it is the Dallas Cowboys offense. 767 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: They need to control the football. The Rams held the 768 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 1: ball for thirty five minutes and change. On Sunday, the 769 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense needs to hold the ball thirty plus minutes 770 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: and keep this defense off the field. We've seen the 771 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: past few seasons when the Cowboys have been able to 772 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: win games, it's because the defense was being able to 773 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: have some rest and put other teams in some third 774 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: down situations winning those third downs. So a whole heavy 775 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: dose of Ezekiel Elliott to me, it's going to be 776 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: the key for the Cowboys to go ahead and win 777 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: because if you can keep Atlanta off the field, you're fine, 778 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: and if you force them because you're able to go 779 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: out to a lead and make them play from behind. 780 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: We know the more Maddie Ice is throwing the football, 781 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: the better off it is for you. If you get 782 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: him throwing forty fifty passes because they're behind, making them 783 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: one dimensional, it's gonna get the Cowboys a better opportunity 784 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: to win fellas. Yeah, this is true. This is very true. 785 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: If you if you got Maddie Ice schooling back there, 786 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: dropping them back for forty six attempts or fifty attempts, 787 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: I think that plays right into the hands for the 788 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. I think they'll be able to use those 789 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: pass rushers off the edge. We've seen Alden Smith coming in. 790 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: He looks like he's ready to keep going. So hopefully 791 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: we get to that point where we make the Atlanta 792 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: Falcons one dimensional. My only worry is, man, who's gonna 793 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: stick Julio Jones? You know who's gonna stick Calvin? Really? 794 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. It's a daunting task, man, 795 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: but we gotta make them one dimensional in my opinion, Yeah, 796 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: this has been a very different ahead. This has been 797 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: This has been their very different cover coverage game. For 798 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 1: our defensive backs. They will be tested more than they 799 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: were last week, just because Sean McVay came out with 800 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 1: this side to side playing and quick passes. I don't 801 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 1: see Atlanta doing the same thing. I seen them trying 802 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: to run and play action and use the ability that 803 00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: they have on their offensive weapons. Hint, hint, some stuff 804 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: that we should probably be doing with Calvin Ridley and 805 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. And Julio Jones will be a big part 806 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: of the game plan for Atlanta, as Mark Cooper should 807 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: be for us. So hopefully we see a battle of receivers. 808 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: All right. Last night, Uh, the Clippers did what I 809 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't think they would do. I thought they would win 810 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: the game against Denver. Um. They didn't get They didn't 811 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: just lose. They got embarrassed. Denver took them pride up 812 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: twenty points late the fourth quarter. I just thought that 813 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: was just pure, pure embarrassment. And then on social media, 814 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,840 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard c J McCullum just clowning Paul Paul and 815 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,959 Speaker 1: Pat Beverley Man, I mean playoff p and they called 816 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: a pandemic pe. I mean it was it was that. 817 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 1: I actually feel sorry for Kawhi Leonard Man. I feel 818 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,000 Speaker 1: sorry for Kawhi Leonard because if you think about this, considering, 819 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: you've got Boston and Miami. Now in the East, what 820 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: if Kawhi Leonard ended up deciding to go back to 821 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: Toronto running back, they might have repeated as Eastern Conference champions. 822 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: But it's clear that the Clippers did all this talking 823 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:39,800 Speaker 1: and produced nothing but playoffs. Pet Let me tell you something. 824 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: Kawhi Kawhi and pandemic Pete went out there and played 825 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,960 Speaker 1: like straight garbage last night. They looked bad. They lost, 826 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: they lost. They lost four in a row. Right, they 827 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: were down three months and then came back. Right. They 828 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: lost three straight. They lost three straight, They lost three straight. 829 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: They lost three straight. Um, yeah, it was bad and 830 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: they you know, I don't know how much I believe 831 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: in karma, but I do remember Patrick Beverley and all 832 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: of them laughing and kickinging and cackling on the sideline 833 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: when when day a little missed that miss those two 834 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 1: free throws and lost the game. So I say he 835 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: gets the last laugh. Yeah, Dan definitely got the last 836 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: laugh on this one. It was definitely embarrassing man to 837 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 1: be up three one and then get outstin Game seven 838 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: by plus twenty. I mean, it's embarrassing. Now. I'm not 839 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: gonna put it all on Kauhi. I felt like Hawaii 840 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: carried him a lot of this way, but he fell 841 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: up short in the fourth quarter. I think he only 842 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: scored like two points in the fourth quarter. But this 843 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: team right here, I mean they were known for talking 844 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: all that smack. I mean, like Danny said, you got 845 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: Pat Beverley on the sidelines, who half of the time 846 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: he wasn't even playing because he was injured, still over 847 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 1: there just talking, just choking it up, just making fun 848 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: of everybody. And then they ran into a buzz all 849 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: of a team in Denver. I mean, this team has 850 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: already come back from three one when they were playing Utah, 851 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: so they were they already had that in their veins. 852 00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: Like this game seven is ours. We got ice in 853 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 1: our and they went out there and proved it. Man, 854 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: It's just I feel bad for Doc. Man. I just 855 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: feel bad for Doc. I feel bad for Hey. Now, 856 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: this this is three times Doc Rivers blown has blown 857 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: a three one lead as a head coach. Now is 858 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 1: that I like this? It's a specialty right now, man, right, 859 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: this is what he's done. Despite winning a championship with 860 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,239 Speaker 1: the Celtics in two thousand and they Doc Rivers is 861 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: that dude? Who's coached these guys, and they can't they 862 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: can't close the show. I also go back to old 863 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: Marcus Morris of the Clippers who told Paul Millsava that 864 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: they were going to go to blank home and also 865 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: that mess he pulled with Luca don chich So. So 866 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,919 Speaker 1: to see this whole group of guys who talk so much, 867 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: who in their own way really kind of disrespected the 868 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: game of basketball and how how you go about your business? 869 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: Did do all that talking and they've won nothing, and 870 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: to see them blow a three one lead and then 871 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: in Game seven getting embarrassed. Okay, I mean they just 872 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: didn't lose, they got embarrassed. Denver took their heart from them. 873 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: That was something to see and we'll see what what 874 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 1: how did they bring it back? They're in luxury cap. Heck, 875 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: they don't have a first round pick apparently until twenty 876 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: twenty seven. Uh, I guess there's an extension that's supposed 877 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: to be coming for for a playoff Peece, So they've 878 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: got to pay him that they've got. No they really 879 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: have no choice but to try and dip into the 880 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: luxury tax and bring these guys back. This is this 881 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: is a problem out there for the Clippers and then 882 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 1: for Paul Pierce and Paul Pierce. But for Paul George 883 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: to say they didn't expect to win the championship in 884 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: the first year, how could you come up with that 885 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,960 Speaker 1: week excuse the press compence after the game like that. 886 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: We have a total garbage go ahead the Matt. The 887 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: worst part for for for La is if you zoom 888 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: out and you and you really look at the at 889 00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: the players in the game, Denver was better than them. 890 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't think if they if they met up again 891 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, that they could beat beat Denver. So 892 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: so they have some real stuff to deal with that 893 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 1: they're not not even only the second best team in 894 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: the West. They not they might not be the third 895 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: because they could have lost the Dallas. So they got 896 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: some real problems. They got some real problems when you 897 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: think about, you know, giving up paula extension and figuring 898 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:15,960 Speaker 1: out what you're gonna do with You know, you need 899 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,359 Speaker 1: a big man if you're gonna be in the West, 900 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,279 Speaker 1: you know you need some stuff. And I don't know 901 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: if they have enough to get it. So they might 902 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: not make it back to make it to the championship, 903 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,399 Speaker 1: let alone the Conference finals they know one thing, they're 904 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: better than not paid. Yeah, they never made it and 905 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: they better not to play paid playoff here or whatever 906 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: they calling him, I mean after that performance and he shrunk, 907 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,640 Speaker 1: I mean it was a just went down into a 908 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: ball and just he was a he was a no 909 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: show man. And for the whole playoffs, the entire playoffs, 910 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,760 Speaker 1: they have to pay Paul George. They don't. They're rosy. 911 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: All the assets that they've given up in draft picks, 912 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: they have no option but to pay Paul George. So 913 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: so he's getting his money. The big, big issue is 914 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard is playing on a one year deal now 915 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,960 Speaker 1: because he's he has a two year opt out for himself. 916 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: So if they run this back, which I expect them 917 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 1: to try to bring as many pieces as they can 918 00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,359 Speaker 1: run it back next year and it doesn't happen, then 919 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard is a free agent after the season. So 920 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: you about, Kawhi Leonard will be free. Jannisannaton Coopo, unless 921 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: he signs a big old extension this offseason, he's going 922 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: to be free. And we'll see. Because one thing we know, 923 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: guys want to play with guys they like and Jimmy Butler, 924 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: in my opinion, show people a whole lot that you 925 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 1: know what, go where guys and an organization wants to 926 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: win the way you want to. Because what they're doing 927 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,400 Speaker 1: in Miami right now, man, that's some tough stuff. The 928 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: best thing he did was get out of Philly. Could 929 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: have made more money in Philly, but he said, I 930 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: want to go to a place where I want to 931 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: win and guys want to win like me and put 932 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: in that work. I mean, if you look at his game, 933 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, I mean he's a scrappy defender. I mean 934 00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: he's not flashy, but he'll get you some buckets. And 935 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: that's basically what that Miami team is. It's just a 936 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: bunch of scrappy dogs out there who just don't care 937 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 1: what anybody says about him. They keep everything in house 938 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: and they do what they do to try to win games. 939 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a perfect fit for Jimmy Butler, and 940 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 1: he's a perfect guy to lead that team. I love 941 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: how everybody you know, Crowns, Brad Stevens is this great 942 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: coach and here's Eric Spoelstra doing his thing and people 943 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: give him one don't want to give him credit for 944 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: coaching to Miami Heat teams to the championship. But you 945 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: know what I thought, Spoelstra and what he's done with 946 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: this team has done an outstanding coaching job. All Right, 947 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: we're late, all right, we can't make once again, Poor Chris, 948 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: poor Chris Bean work any harder than he has trying 949 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:41,720 Speaker 1: to get this show together. But it was fun stuff. 950 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: While we gotta thank Will McClay for popping off the 951 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,320 Speaker 1: Players Lounge brought to you by Hotels dot Com. Danny, 952 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: you're off tomorrow, so it's just gonna be buried Church 953 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: and I running things here on the Players last week, 954 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: looking forward to a fun show on Thursday. Fellas. Appreciate 955 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: you now, all right, appreciate it. See you on the 956 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,800 Speaker 1: next one. 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