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Speaker 5: Are all right, we are live again practice wrap up.

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Speaker 5: It's Paul, it's me, It's gonna be Deuce and Evan.

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Speaker 5: We might be joined by a special guest. We'll see.

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Speaker 5: But it is day two of the mini camp and

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be the final day of practice, so we're

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Speaker 5: gonna be here for the next hour or so wrapping

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Speaker 5: up everything that we saw. I didn't I was busy,

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Speaker 5: but Paul was there and Evan and Duce, so they'll

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Speaker 5: have everything to say.

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Speaker 2: Now they move practice indoors.

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Speaker 3: Doors, so it was a little bit tougher to sort

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Speaker 3: of decipher everything that's going on. I thought ev was

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Speaker 3: I would say, and again, I wasn't there yesterday. You guys,

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Speaker 3: I'm sure had your rocket shots about that. From what

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Speaker 3: I read and determined from yesterday, it was a pretty

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Speaker 3: positive practice for the offense. Drake May in particular, I

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Speaker 3: would say this wasn't quite as good as that. I

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Speaker 3: thought the defense made more plays today than it sounded

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Speaker 3: like they made yesterday. All that said, it was telling

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Speaker 3: Fred as we were getting ready to start, I just

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Speaker 3: find watching Drake May this like more of a comfort

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Speaker 3: sort of deferring to Jacoby Brissette. This year he's the man.

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Speaker 3: I just I feel like they're in and out of

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Speaker 3: the huddle, quicker crisper. There's not a lot of you know, no,

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Speaker 3: you're supposed to be over here, You're supposed to go

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Speaker 3: over there. Okay, now you go in motion. The players

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Speaker 3: are getting run with an efficient pace. Again, I thought

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Speaker 3: the defense sort of controlled things a little bit today.

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Speaker 4: Than it certainly did at this time last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe you could make fun of that and say

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Speaker 3: that's a low bar, you know, be that as it may.

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Speaker 4: I think they're they're getting there, getting up to speed.

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Speaker 5: H So we'll we'll break all that down with Evan

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Speaker 5: and Deuce as well, after practice it was player availability

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Speaker 5: and Stefan Diggs had his first player availability, uh you know,

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Speaker 5: in that type of setting, and so we'll break down

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Speaker 5: everything that he had to say when the guys get

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so they had a good mix of some

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Speaker 3: veterans and Rooked I know, I think Hunter Henry spoke

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Speaker 3: then they had some rookies. I think Mike was talking

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Speaker 3: to Trevion Henderson as I left to get over and

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Speaker 3: help you out, Freddy. So some of you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: not sure if Will Campbell's going to talk to you, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, be curious to see what the guys say,

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Speaker 3: you know, went on with some of that media availability.

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Speaker 5: Oh and guess who's walking into the room. It's Jenny

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Speaker 5: all right, good to see you.

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Speaker 4: Have a seed.

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Speaker 2: Have a seed? All right?

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Speaker 5: Well to what do we owe this? You know, you

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Speaker 5: just decided to come in. Nobody asked you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no request, mate.

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Speaker 2: You saw the on air outside, said I'm coming in.

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Speaker 4: What's going on in there? It looks fun?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well thanks for coming.

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Speaker 5: So Paul you probably know, Paul, I'm Fred appreciate you coming.

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Speaker 2: By How was practice today?

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Speaker 6: No, gun after you know, the last day this spring,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So like, how does that feel to you?

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Speaker 5: Because I know tomorrow you're probably still gonna be here,

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Speaker 2: Like, how do you know, keep that focus during that

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Speaker 1: Happened? You know?

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Speaker 2: And so where are you? How do you feel about you?

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Speaker 6: I feel great, you know, uh, you know, a bit

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Speaker 1: But uh, you know, I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 6: You know, we had a lot of chemistry this this

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Speaker 3: Man, you're talking about the differences defensively and the system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I get in the back.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just you know, we got new coaching

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Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. You know, he's still eat locked in every day.

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Speaker 1: You know, so I think that's used and you know,

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Speaker 3: What it's like for a defensive player you've been you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 6: So you know I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna adjust

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm gonna just pick it up. You know,

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Speaker 1: We all learning it together, and you know, we moving

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Speaker 5: Coach Rabel came in just from day one. He says,

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Speaker 2: Do you sense that? Do you sense that?

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Speaker 5: You know he's putting his thumbprint on this team and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, one thousand percent. You know, it's it's day, day

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Speaker 6: You know, it's just looking forward to it, man, looking

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Speaker 3: So Fred and I have works here for a long time,

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Speaker 1: And do the players feel that? Uh? I mean, like

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Speaker 6: And you know, just you know, we've grown over the spreen.

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Speaker 1: Uh. So we're excited about that.

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Speaker 5: maybe no better than the two corners that you guys have.

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Speaker 5: So as the front seven guy, when you think about, hey,

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Speaker 5: Does that get you excited about the freedom that it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Uh.

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Speaker 3: I know you're a much different kind of player, and

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Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. So I know you've got other things to do.

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Speaker 5: But before you go, breaks coming anything, playing any trips,

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Speaker 4: Okay, times goes by fast, you'll be back here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So relative all right, Anfrety, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Anthrethy Jennings on Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 4: That was nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I find it interesting just you know, sort

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Speaker 3: Jennings has done things a certain way for five years

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Speaker 7: Evan, what did you see a little bit of a

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Speaker 7: They tightened it up a little bit, I thought today

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm sure that Mike had his reasons

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Speaker 4: I don't understand him, no, but I'm sure he has

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Speaker 5: And no, I know, but like if it was a

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Speaker 3: But on the on the positive side, Friday, there was

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Speaker 7: Nice eventually, Yeah, because they enjoyed it.

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Speaker 7: That was one of the more bizarre practices I've ever

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Speaker 5: Yep, we should probably talk about Stefan Diggs. Were you

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Speaker 7: Yeah, nothing, nothing to headline graby from Stefan Diggs, But

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Speaker 5: Say, nothing really headliney was was he at liberty to

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Speaker 4: And I think he was. I caught a brief bit too.

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Speaker 3: He was one of the guys like he caught a

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Speaker 3: One of the things I said to Fred that I,

443
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Speaker 3: you know, I basically I wasn't there, so I didn't

444
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Speaker 3: see it yesterday. But based on what I read and

445
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Speaker 3: then what I saw again today, I just feel like

446
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,560
Speaker 3: even when the plays aren't successful, there's a crispness, like

447
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,880
Speaker 3: they're not in the huddle for a long time. There's

448
00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,080
Speaker 3: not a lot of reorganization at the line. You know,

449
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,600
Speaker 3: guys go in motion when they're supposed to. And I

450
00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,480
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys have noticed the same thing.

451
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,159
Speaker 3: I don't want to say that, well, look at how

452
00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 3: much better it is now, because I don't know, we

453
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 3: haven't seen the results yet. But operational last year it

454
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,119
Speaker 3: was false start, false start, someone not lined up in

455
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,639
Speaker 3: the proper slot, he's on the wrong side, or it

456
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 3: didn't go in motion was when he was supposed to.

457
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Speaker 4: I don't see a lot of that.

458
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,719
Speaker 3: No, no, yeah, And I think that's been a purpose

459
00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 3: efficiency to the way the plays get run.

460
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Speaker 5: I think I think that's Rabel and I think it's

461
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Speaker 5: the it's McDaniels just prepping these guys off the field

462
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 5: so that when they get on the field they're ready

463
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Speaker 5: to go.

464
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Speaker 7: Yeah, you can see the build up in the way

465
00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,959
Speaker 7: that the practices are scripted. So I'm sure they go

466
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,480
Speaker 7: in the classroom and they teach these plays on the

467
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Speaker 7: board and you know, on video, and then they go

468
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 7: onto the field and they do it and walk through form,

469
00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 7: and then they go from walk through to like a

470
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 7: jog through where it's against a defense, but it's not

471
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Speaker 7: an actual live period, and then they go to the

472
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Speaker 7: live period where they're running all the same plays, right,

473
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Speaker 7: but they're sort of progressively building them hustle memory of

474
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Speaker 7: what is this place supposed to look like? So I

475
00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 7: think you once you get to the live eleven on

476
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 7: eleven's like they've already repped that play sequence like two

477
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 7: or three times in the day already, so by the

478
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,000
Speaker 7: time you get to that point, you really should know

479
00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,520
Speaker 7: what you're doing and have everybody lined up. There was

480
00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 7: one rehuddle today, which was the first time that I

481
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 7: even really took note of that. Pretty much all spring

482
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,600
Speaker 7: that I don't recall that they had one. It looked

483
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 7: like that may be a little bit of a slow

484
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,679
Speaker 7: defensive substitution on their personnel package like are we you know,

485
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 7: what package are we putting on the field type thing?

486
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 7: But overall, I I agree, just such a smoother operation.

487
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 7: I just think in general too, there's so much further

488
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 7: along offensively with the install now compared to the last

489
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,919
Speaker 7: couple of years. And all this is mental stuff, like

490
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 7: none of this is actually, to Paul's point, like the physical.

491
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 7: Can they go out there and make the plays. But

492
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 7: you can see how they're adding on a little bit

493
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 7: and adding on a little bit, you know, to there

494
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 7: was some more stuff in the red zone that they

495
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 7: didn't do yesterday that they added on today, and.

496
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Speaker 3: Some no huddle stuff early in practice even and they said,

497
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Speaker 3: you know, Rabel said before practice that it was actually

498
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 3: no huddle and uh silent count.

499
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 7: They were doing silent count stuff in June, you.

500
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Speaker 4: Know, Was that why they were blasting the music?

501
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: But even louder like as soon as they get to

502
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 3: the line, they were like increasing the.

503
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Speaker 4: Old guys that were standing right in front of the speaker.

504
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: Was it was struggling And I will say the very

505
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 3: few nitpicky things that I would say, that's what it resulted.

506
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 3: It looked like there were times where there may have

507
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 3: been a false starter to or not a penalty fall start.

508
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 4: But not getting off on the snap. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

509
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 4: you know a couple of those. I thought the defense

510
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 4: got that.

511
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: Doug Landry and Keon White a couple of times got

512
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,840
Speaker 3: the edge on tackles because it looked like the tackles

513
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: weren't off at the snap. Yeah, you know, and that's

514
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 3: part of the communication stuff. But nitpicky, nitpicky things.

515
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 7: Yeah right, maybe they jumped off side too, you know,

516
00:21:58,760 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 7: I never.

517
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Speaker 3: Know absolutely, And I thought there were a couple of

518
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: possible fall starts on offense that they just ran the place.

519
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:05,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

520
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a guy jumping a full snap count ahead.

521
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: It was you know, the what's the jump? It was

522
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 3: what's what's the guy, uh the Kansas City guy to want?

523
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: Is it ty Taiwan Taylor? What's the guy that always

524
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 3: wants to Juwan Juwan? Not Taiwan Jawan Taylor. I thought

525
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 3: there were a couple of those today on the Patriots

526
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 3: that didn't get called.

527
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, I noticed yesterday. I don't know if you got

528
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 5: speaking of you know, the snap and getting jumps. Moses,

529
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,159
Speaker 5: is he a guy that he's a snap type of

530
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 5: timer and gets off a little bit early right on

531
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Speaker 5: the edge of you know.

532
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I haven't necessarily seen that in his tape in

533
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 7: the past. I mean it's not I haven't looked for

534
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 7: it either, so you know, you know, I don't know,

535
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,639
Speaker 7: but uh, there could be some of that, you know

536
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 7: with him. He's getting older and might feel a little

537
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 7: bit slower out of the stand. So anything that you

538
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 7: can do to kind of steal half a foot or

539
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 7: whatever at this point of his career might be worth it.

540
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 7: But I I one of the things that you know,

541
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Speaker 7: just from a after practice standpoint, that Moses was has

542
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 7: been holding court all spring after practice, and that group

543
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 7: has grown considerably as the spring has increasing, and now

544
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 7: it's like the whole offensive line is like staying late

545
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 7: to like work on stuff. I saw Mike on went

546
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 7: who was like going through some stuff with some people too,

547
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 7: some guard you know, into your line stuff, and Moses

548
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 7: is standing there, but don is the shirt off, like

549
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 7: standing like you know, going through things with guys, and

550
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 7: he is constantly Moses is constantly giving pointers. I love

551
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 7: constantly coaching. Just it's pretty it's pretty cool.

552
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: That that tells me a couple of things.

553
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Speaker 5: One he knows what he's talking about and people are

554
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 5: realizing that and they're they're listening. Is like I said,

555
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 5: his flock is growing. Also, he's confident in himself and

556
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 5: his role on the team. Like a lot of guys

557
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 5: they come in on it's like, I don't have time.

558
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 5: It has been that I got to worry about my

559
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 5: own job. He's not seeing it was seemingly worried about that,

560
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 5: Like he knows my time in this league is limited.

561
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: You know, I don't have much left, so might as

562
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 5: well give it.

563
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 4: Back pour into these young kids, I mean, stiff diticks.

564
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 3: I heard him say similar things about the receiving room,

565
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: like we got a lot of young guys in here,

566
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Speaker 3: and I want to help.

567
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 4: Them come along. So it's a great sign.

568
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: I think they needed that, And especially when they cleaned

569
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 3: out a lot of their old leadership, a lot of

570
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: their old captains are gone. There's a bit of a

571
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: void right now for leadership, and those guys are stepping

572
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: up and hopefully it pays dividends.

573
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: So maybe he's an early candidate for captain.

574
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Speaker 4: Oh I thought I would say early candidate to be

575
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: a guest star on Father Fred. He said, flock and

576
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 4: who is.

577
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 3: Moses Okay, I thought you said Diggs, Yeah, I would.

578
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 3: I would think Logan Moses would have a chance to

579
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: be I thought you were talking about the wide receiver

580
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: room and then we're talking about you have an older

581
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: guy and digs in the wide receiver room because they're

582
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 3: all young.

583
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 4: That's exactly what Mike just said it but literally just

584
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 4: said that, and then Fred tack back to Moses.

585
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I miss you tack back to Moses because

586
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 3: I was reading a Stefan Diggs tweet off of what

587
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: Mike was talking about with the wide receivers and just

588
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: nothing earth shattering, but he just says he he still

589
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: believes he's the number one receiver in this league and

590
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 3: that his goal was to play in Week one. So

591
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if he got into anything further timetable

592
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 3: wise than that, but you know his goal is to

593
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 3: be ready by week one. You Know what I liked

594
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: from Diggs was Tommy Kerr and asked him if he

595
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: still wore a chip on his shoulder from being a

596
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 3: fifth round pick, and the cliche answer is like, of course,

597
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 3: like and he was kind of like, I don't know,

598
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 3: that was a long time ago.

599
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 4: It's kind of funny like, you know.

600
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 3: He's established himself now, it doesn't seem like he's still

601
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 3: motivated by being that.

602
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: You asked that.

603
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 3: Same question as Tom Brady, and no, right, well that's

604
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 3: what I was expecting, Paul.

605
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 4: That was of course. Tom Brady's like, I never forgot that,

606
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 4: and I remember the name of everybody that did it.

607
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 4: It says it all the time. A certain point, you're

608
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 4: the goat and you have to forget about us.

609
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 7: I think Tom Brady's still mad about it, right, pretty clear.

610
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 4: He's like Giovanni piece money.

611
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: From grade school, like people like, he just hates grades,

612
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: right right, Well.

613
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: He's like you. You and Tom have a lot in comment.

614
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: That's true.

615
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 4: And Richie Campanella, you know, I don't forget.

616
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't forget, all right. So what else from practice?

617
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 4: You talked about the Gunzales interception?

618
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, we did in poetry. Actually asked Anthony Jennings about it.

619
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

620
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: I was basically like, you know, is it annoying when

621
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 3: you watch a guy that's like that athletic just shoots

622
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 3: his hand out just like he was like just like

623
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: someone tossed to you a piece of paper and you're like, oh,

624
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 3: he was like you know, covering Kyle Williams down I

625
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: saw some tweets that Evan put out after after the

626
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 3: practice too, and I agreed that there were some we've

627
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,959
Speaker 3: been talking about the defensive plays.

628
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 4: The quick little slant.

629
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: Or in cutting route to Pop Douglas in the red

630
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 3: zone was was a highlight, as was the the play

631
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, and I know you mentioned.

632
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: Both of those.

633
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: So there was some plays too in a great I

634
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: mean it was like secondary groups. But I think Dobbs

635
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,239
Speaker 3: hit John Giles on a really nice right right at

636
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: the pile on the front pylon and in the corner

637
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: in the red zone at the end of the game,

638
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: that that kind of closed practice on a real high

639
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 3: note for the offense. It was to Mike's point about

640
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 3: the amount of enthusiasm that's going into these plays. The

641
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: defense is really celebrating every pass breakup, and the offense,

642
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 3: like all eleven of them were really really into that.

643
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 3: That Actually wasn't Dobbs, it was the other guy was Woodbridgeridge.

644
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: What do I call him? Woolridge not Woodbridge and a

645
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 4: different guy, so different line.

646
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: Is that enthusiasm all Vrabel or is it also his coaches?

647
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 7: Well?

648
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: I thought it was a good sign because I found

649
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: myself wondering without Terrell Williams here, does the defense lack

650
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: a little bit of their identity of who they're going

651
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: to be when you have the actual defensive coordinator who

652
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 3: the team often kind of rallies around. And I thought

653
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: it was a good sign that you felt like the defense.

654
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 3: And I don't know for sure, but it seemed like, hey,

655
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: the offense had a pretty god day against this yesterday,

656
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 3: let's bring the energy today. So maybe it is Rabel,

657
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 3: but I just see it as a really positive sign

658
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: that the defense is.

659
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 5: If Terrell Williams is like in touch, and he said, yeah,

660
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 5: he's looking at the film every day. Yeah, he's you know,

661
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 5: giving us feedback. So he's, you know, as we expected. Yeah,

662
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: he's up on everything.

663
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 4: I'm sure he's got to be dying to.

664
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't imagine like I would be like

665
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: kind of feel like fomo if I.

666
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 4: You know, I wasn't here to watch it, which I don't.

667
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: I don't even know I'm important to that, But to

668
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 3: not to be the defensive coordator, to not be able

669
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 3: to be there with your guys and to put your

670
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: stamp on this team and it's your first chance.

671
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll be great for them when he finally

672
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 4: does get back.

673
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of the energy Bill Belichick would had

674
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 7: that football life thing. I think it was where he

675
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 7: talked about like celebrating your success, like being excited about

676
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 7: making good excited, right. But I feel like when the offense,

677
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 7: you know, the last couple of years in training camp,

678
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 7: the offense has struggled, Yeah, and it's hard to just

679
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 7: manufacture excitement and manufacture energy when you're going out there

680
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 7: and you're not doing well and you feel like you're

681
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 7: swimming upstream and.

682
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: Plus have that one good play and then it's ridiculous,

683
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: right right.

684
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 7: And so I feel like maybe this this competitiveness that

685
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 7: we're seeing in the energy is because it's more of

686
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 7: a back and forth. You know, there's a legitimate back

687
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 7: and forth between the two, uh, and and that is

688
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 7: going to bring out competitiveness and guys don't want to lose,

689
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 7: Guys don't want to be on the wrong end of plays,

690
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 7: and you know that sort of thing. So I think

691
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 7: that's good that that's what we've seen in the past,

692
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 7: when you know, the Patriots were at their best where

693
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 7: camps like this, where the camp was energetic, and there

694
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 7: was back and forth and there was competition.

695
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: What did you guys think about being indoors on a

696
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 5: day like today.

697
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 2: I like the burger aspect of it.

698
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, otherwise it was it was.

699
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 2: It was.

700
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: It's hard to.

701
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 5: See any more clarity as to why. Like I was

702
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 5: telling Paul, like I could see if it was a downpour,

703
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 5: and it's really impeding us teaching them learning, you know,

704
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: because this isn't like getting prepared for a game yet,

705
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 5: where you.

706
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: Know, it's you don't care about the weather.

707
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 5: I think there's like trying to get things installed and everything,

708
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 5: but like it was just frizzling.

709
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 7: But there's little things nowadays with these players that if

710
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 7: you can give them a practice where they don't have

711
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 7: to practice in the rain in the middle of June

712
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 7: when you're really not trying to do much like don't

713
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 7: be a hardo about it, you know, like don't don't

714
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 7: be don't be the other way, because I think that

715
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 7: as a player that can be like really like we

716
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 7: have to go out in the rain and it's June

717
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 7: tenth or whatever it is, Like I don't it's not

718
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 7: like they're preparing to play a game on Sunday and weather.

719
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 5: No, I get I get that, But at the same time,

720
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 5: I don't think there was anything in today's weather that

721
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 5: kept you from doing what you needed to do, whereas

722
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 5: I can say going indoors did because it's limited.

723
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: It's more, you know, you're packed in, so.

724
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: That's kind I don't know how I felt fred walking in.

725
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: We talked about it before we went over with the

726
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 3: weather hamper what they're doing.

727
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: I totally hear everything Evan said, totally true. But I

728
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 4: felt when I was walking in kind of like, this

729
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: is the perfec like light rain, that it'll stress a

730
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: little bit.

731
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: Of snaps and you know, just just put enough stress

732
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 3: on the team that it would be an extra challenge

733
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: that I think you might like to see how they do,

734
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: just to just to ratchet up the intensity that the

735
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 3: difficulty just a tiny bit.

736
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 7: I just have to pick your battles, Yeah, I mean,

737
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 7: I have to pick your battles. With today's athletes, I

738
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 7: wonder what the players would have wanted.

739
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

740
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's probably an argument to be made

741
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 3: that the inside the bubble makes it harder, stuffy, and

742
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: I'm sure they don't like practicing on the turf if

743
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: they don't have to.

744
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah right.

745
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: So I mean I could see it. I could see

746
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 4: it both ways.

747
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 3: I kind of agree with Evan and that it's not

748
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 3: a huge deal to me either way. And I know

749
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: that some as I'm looking at my shows, probably will

750
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,479
Speaker 3: make a big deal out of it, like oh, they're soft,

751
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 3: Like it's not because they're soft, it's not. There's no deep,

752
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 3: you know, hidden meaning behind it, probably other than what

753
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 3: Evan said, like, yeah, it's June tenth, we really have

754
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 3: to like if it's at all gonna win PS. Now,

755
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: as it turned out, I think Fred, you're right. The

756
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: weather really wasn't an impediment at all. But maybe this

757
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: forecast was for a little bit heavier rain and they

758
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: felt like we probably can get more accomplished going inside.

759
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

760
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 4: Maybe it's also kind of nothing.

761
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 5: Some early injuries too, someone slipping and we don't have

762
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 5: blown down in Achilles.

763
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean, and there were some competitive plays out

764
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: there in practice. I mean Coltin Davis it seemed like tackled.

765
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 4: Well, he didn't, he did not. He did not tackle,

766
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 4: he did not. They went down in a heap.

767
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: There was there was some like like but a distance

768
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: it looked like, but they just they're playing hard, they're competing,

769
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: guys are going to fall down.

770
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 4: Sometimes.

771
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: I would worry more about the injuries on that turf

772
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 3: than than anything on grass. But again, I'm sure that

773
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 3: Mike had has reasons.

774
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 7: I just said, like, it's not even the injuries thing

775
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 7: to me, it's just I don't know, it just picked

776
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 7: your battles, like this is not the time where we

777
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 7: need to be putting guys out there in the pouring ring.

778
00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 7: Like if we get into training camp and every single

779
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 7: time there's a there's a you know, cloud in the sky,

780
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 7: they're moving the practice inside, and that's a different story.

781
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 7: But I just don't think that you need to push

782
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 7: it with this sort of thing.

783
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 4: Cut some newsful, Fredy, I read that, you read it, Okay.

784
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 5: So the Patriots have just announced their training camp dates.

785
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: So these are the dates that will be open to

786
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,719
Speaker 5: the public. These aren't all the training but these are

787
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: the dates that the public will.

788
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: Be invited to watch.

789
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: And the whole thing starts on Wednesday, July twenty third,

790
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 5: So get your pen and paper. July twenty third, the

791
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 5: twenty fourth, the twenty fifth, and the twenty sixth, that'll

792
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: be open practice. Then it resumes on the twenty eighth,

793
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 5: the twenty ninth, the thirtieth, and the thirty first, those

794
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 5: will be open practices, and then it resumes again on

795
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 5: August fourth, fifth, and sixth, and then the final open

796
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 5: practice will be August.

797
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: Tenth, and the one on the sixth, I believe is

798
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: the joint just with Washington.

799
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, solo. Yeah, So if you're choosing one, you can

800
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 5: only go to one. That would be a good one

801
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 5: to go to August sixth.

802
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: Important to note, practices are at ten o'clock on this

803
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: so that's a little bit different than years past. I

804
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: think at that point they might be nine or nine

805
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: thirty somewhere in that range maybe, so a little bit

806
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 3: of a different practice schedule, probably ten to ten o'clock.

807
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 5: And obviously, you know, weather could change that in going

808
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 5: in the bubble and all that, but you know, ten

809
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 5: o'clock that could be good for this show because we

810
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 5: might be able to get some guys right off the field,

811
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 5: you know, twelve thirty or so sure to come into

812
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 5: the show. So that that's that'll be good for us.

813
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 7: So remember, first handful of practices are nonpadded, just like

814
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 7: what we're watching in the spring right now, So maybe

815
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 7: you're looking for like the real padded practices. You got

816
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 7: to kind of wait till the second.

817
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: Week of training that Monday, maybe that would be.

818
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 7: There's some NFLPA math that I practice, but probably Sunday

819
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 7: Sunday ramp up period. It's a whole thing.

820
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 5: So if you miss the dates, be up on Patriots

821
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 5: dot com. But training camp dates have been an ounce

822
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: so that's exciting.

823
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 3: So Wednesday, July twenty third, right, so that's the opening practice.

824
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect, twelve days.

825
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 7: Twelve days of open practice will be in Minnesota for

826
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 7: a couple so.

827
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and then and then it's then it's just

828
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 3: kind of open to the media there at the end

829
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 3: they'll be there's like a handful more h after, but

830
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: not to the fans. Yeah, no, I should be good.

831
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: Go to that joint practice if you're looking for something

832
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: to do. I can't recommend it enough. Joint practice is

833
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 3: a usually usually fun time. You get some ratcheted up

834
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 3: competition levels, get to see some other Washington, You get

835
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 3: a chance to see you know, Jayden Daniels.

836
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 5: Are you at all curious like in the past when

837
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: they had joint practices it was usually two days.

838
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is only one.

839
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, last year they.

840
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 3: Just did a lot of teams have been going to one.

841
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 3: They did they we only did one with Philly last year.

842
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: Right, it was brutal, it was enough it.

843
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: I was just going to say, like with two is

844
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 5: it because like you know, because they tempers flair.

845
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 4: I think that's why teams have the decided to go back.

846
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that they're it's they're great in terms

847
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 7: of in really all angles like fan experience, our experience.

848
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 7: Obviously they get good work in, but the league does

849
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 7: kind of have to get a hold of the fights

850
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 7: that break out at these practices, Like there's skirmishes at

851
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 7: pretty much every single one of these things, and whether

852
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 7: it's finding people or or docking practices or whatever the

853
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 7: case may be. They we're getting to the point now

854
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 7: where they might need to step in.

855
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 5: Last year, the year before where Green Bay almost went

856
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,959
Speaker 5: into the where the fans were.

857
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 7: Yeah Carolina, right, oh, yeah, that was here green Bay

858
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 7: two years ago.

859
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: I saw that one day two years ago.

860
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: The second day, it was like seven fights within the

861
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: first like eight snaps, Like yeah, that skirmish, skirmish and

862
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 3: this bad And I think that's part of why they

863
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 3: moved in one day.

864
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 4: But I'll be curious that they're going to stick to

865
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 4: one day with Minnesota too, or if they're gonna maybe

866
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 4: they double.

867
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: I heard that was scheduled for two days, but I'm

868
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: not sure.

869
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I would hope. So if they're on all the

870
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 7: way to Minnesota for the week.

871
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 5: More than one, I mean, Washington could say the same thing,

872
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 5: you know, So.

873
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: I don't know.

874
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 4: I mean, you go for the practice and then the game.

875
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but then the.

876
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: Same as Washington, Like they're coming here for one practice

877
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 3: and then they're gonna have to walk through. No, there

878
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 3: might be, but I'm just saying I don't have to see,

879
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of a mentality.

880
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 7: I mean, well for them, I'm just selfish.

881
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: I mean, if they if they do two practices, they

882
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 3: do two practices. But you know whatever, it's the same

883
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 3: same thing, all right, all right? What is going on

884
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: on the warming It's like an eighteen wheeler, Like the

885
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: right outside.

886
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 5: Of the weekend is warming up outside. They have a

887
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 5: concert tonight.

888
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: And when you find that ironic, Fred that the weekend

889
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 3: is warming up on a Tuesday.

890
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: Tuesday, get started early, you know, can.

891
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 4: I can I say one more thing? I just say

892
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 4: a lot of things, Mike.

893
00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 3: You know, Paul and I were watching and I think

894
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: we mentioned before that we felt like Christian Barmore looks

895
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 3: like he's in pretty good shape. And I just saw

896
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 3: one play kind of stood out to me. For the

897
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 3: passing play, Barmore rushes the passer complete passing the flat

898
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 3: and Barmore peels off and pursues.

899
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 4: All the way down.

900
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: You know, I just that to me stood out as

901
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 3: a mini camp effort play. I just wrote good shape,

902
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 3: you know, dash energy like it just seems like he

903
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 3: had a lot of energy. And I was reading Mike's

904
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 3: transcript from yesterday and he mentioned that, you know, you

905
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: guys have seen Barmore, you know, chasing down plays or.

906
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 4: Something along those lines.

907
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 3: And I was thinking, to myself, I missed that, and

908
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 3: then sure enough I watched the practice today and that's

909
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: exactly what Mike was talking about.

910
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 4: Was the play that just mentioned.

911
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 7: Got right in on the backfield on beat. Mike on

912
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 7: went who on a pass play too? Got right in there.

913
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: Him and Milton.

914
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 7: Williams are like the two amigos inside there. They they

915
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 7: are separable and then in a good way, a lot

916
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 7: of those guys are coming after a lot of Yeah yeah,

917
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 7: I mean just the things that you can do, even

918
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 7: as lightning and lightening, like having those guys like you know,

919
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 7: draw double teams and stuff like that is just going

920
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,360
Speaker 7: to make like Keon White and Harald Landry and Chase

921
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 7: On and those guys are just gonna have one on

922
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 7: ones for four straight corners.

923
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: White have a good one around the edge.

924
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 3: Seemed like they ratcheted up the pressure a little bit

925
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: more with like the linebackers and you know in the

926
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: b gaps and the gaps I should say double mug

927
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 3: looks and stuff.

928
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 4: So you know, they seemed like the defense was thank you.

929
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: I guess let's you know, I.

930
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 7: Defense I had a little bit enough of yesterday. I

931
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 7: think defensively, they were like all right, that's yeah. They

932
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 7: were doing three man rushes in the red zone and

933
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 7: you guys completed some passes, so we'll dial it.

934
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 4: Look at those.

935
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 5: So people are watching right now and they see the

936
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: triple box with all the camp dates right there, so there.

937
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: You go, beautiful, ye look at this good stuff all.

938
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 7: At once to to like, you know.

939
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: I used to be like they tell you Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,

940
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: and then he'd wait.

941
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 2: Well, there's some fine print underneath as subject to change.

942
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know gates opening.

943
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: Gates open at nine to fifteen, practice approximately ten fifteen.

944
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: So it's you know, now like those are the twelve

945
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: dates they're going to be, you know, scheduled to practice.

946
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 4: You know, it's a plant plan. Accordingly, get there early.

947
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 4: I'll get you, you know, pumped up with speech. They're

948
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 4: not still going to do that. I'm going to have you.

949
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure they.

950
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 4: He's the hype man. And I'd run out there with

951
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 4: the finger in there him and serge.

952
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 5: You do some Jaws trivia right by the way he

953
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 5: let me die, I repriment it. I said, no more

954
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 5: appearances than ninety eight point five if you're going.

955
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: To perform like that.

956
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 5: You know, he let me down today knowing that the

957
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 5: license right now, Louisiana, I know, I said, Jersey, Yeah, Fred,

958
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 5: take my Jaws card. And then it didn't get the

959
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: second one either, h Well, which one was that one?

960
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 4: That was the name of the the doctor.

961
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: And yeah, the doctor that they paid.

962
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: No, No, that would be a past.

963
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 3: That one was impossible that, like I said to Mike Spielberg,

964
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: would have gotten out one, but the Harbormaster.

965
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 4: I knew that one. Frank Silva. Frank Silva. Now I

966
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 4: just watched it Saturday, okay, because.

967
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 3: You need it a sense groove text you text you

968
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 3: want on her, AMC. It had just started, I said,

969
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: Jaws Alert, AMC. I did do a quick impression of

970
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 3: right as that text came in, sitting in front of

971
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: the TV like this. So so the funny part of

972
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: that is I I had to go. You know, it's

973
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: his grad grad party season, so I had to go

974
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,720
Speaker 3: to a graduation party. I watched probably the first maybe

975
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 3: forty five minutes of Jaws, took a shower, got dressed,

976
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: went to the party. I come back and Death at

977
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: this time is now home from work and Will is

978
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 3: with her and they're watching just three because it just

979
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: it just just kept going, and Will was watching Jaws

980
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 3: with me. It just kept watching, and they were up

981
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 3: to the three Diva, which was just so bad. Like

982
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: the three and that was just so bad, like especially

983
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: in the climax and like lou Gossip Juniors in like

984
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: slow motion and it's just so clearly projection.

985
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 4: Of a start coming out and it just stops that

986
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: it's Quade though, good stuff, good stuff. Did not see three.

987
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 2: I know, I never saw three.

988
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 7: I've never seen two.

989
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: Two was so bad.

990
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm so two.

991
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: It's not anywhere near as good as the original, but

992
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: as far as like cheesy Hollywood see but it looks

993
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: like Jaws right, like I still got that smar as

994
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: cheesy Hollywood sequels go. It wasn't bad, but we was

995
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: just an abomination. Not this again, Brody, come on, like,

996
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: you know, don't he believes them?

997
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: It was so bad.

998
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 5: Three, Stevie writes in I was wondering how different are

999
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 5: the wide receiver drills compared to years past. It doesn't

1000
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 5: look like it will translate better than years past.

1001
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 4: They're definitely different. They're definitely different.

1002
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: I think every coach has different drills, but how they

1003
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 3: translate to the performance on the field.

1004
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 7: Like like about the drills though, and they even the

1005
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 7: conditioning at the end. Everything's competitive, like everything's a contest.

1006
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 7: It's not just like we're just going through drills, like

1007
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 7: you know, they do some of that stuff, but the

1008
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 7: wide receivers in particular, like they're racing there, like you know,

1009
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 7: who can get through the cones the fastest? And like

1010
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 7: there's always some sort of back and forth.

1011
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 4: Even the last thing they did today you talk about

1012
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: that a little bit.

1013
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was cool. They were pushing a sled, you know,

1014
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 7: it's like the across different Yeah, it's not even position.

1015
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 7: It looked like they were competing, right, like who could

1016
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 7: get the sled to the end of the of the

1017
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 7: field the fastest, And you know, one guy would push

1018
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 7: it as far as he could, and then the next

1019
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 7: guy and then the next guy, and they kind of

1020
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,359
Speaker 7: kept building it up and like there it was gamifying. Yeah,

1021
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 7: it was a game. Yea.

1022
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 4: Also see that that it's not even a drill.

1023
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: They just kind of all line up and then it's

1024
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: like a scatter sprint where some guys are sprint into

1025
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 3: the far corner, other guys are going.

1026
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 4: Right across the sideline. You just see guys running full

1027
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: speed a lot more for whatever.

1028
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: That's worth a lot more than and I haven't seen

1029
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: and I think it's probably.

1030
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: Part of the whole process.

1031
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: I haven't seen this much in terms of the after

1032
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 3: practice conditioning running as we've seen in the past, because

1033
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 3: I think they're running full speed constantly during practice. They

1034
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 3: get they're getting their conditioning while practicing. The receivers. We've

1035
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 3: mentioned this several times. They run full throttle all the

1036
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 3: way to the end zone on every rep, you know,

1037
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: in the pre practice sort of portion when they're running

1038
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: against the air and whatnot. I don't remember seeing that.

1039
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, the receivers taking the ball all

1040
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: the way to the end zone. You know, they might

1041
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,479
Speaker 3: go sixty yards all the way to the end zone.

1042
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: But this is clearly one full tilt to the end

1043
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: zone and it's every single guy. So if you have

1044
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 3: five guys that are running out and only three guys

1045
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: are throwing passes, all five guys are going all.

1046
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: The way to the end zone full speed every rep.

1047
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: I mean, that's something Rable might be saying.

1048
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 5: It's like, if I see that you guys are going

1049
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 5: all out during practice, we're not doing sprints.

1050
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 4: Exactly what my hockey coaching college used to do.

1051
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: We would do in between drills, you do two quick laps,

1052
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: and so between every drill you'd have a sprint and

1053
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: by the end you just need to a couple. So

1054
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 3: we've had now five because we had three ot as

1055
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 3: that we watched in two mini camp practices plus rookie

1056
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: mini camp. And I would say that I saw sort

1057
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: of traditional runs after after the practice is over, maybe

1058
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: twice one that I can think of.

1059
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm figuring I might have missed one where

1060
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 4: they went to the hill. Yeah, like it, you know,

1061
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 4: just usually they just do not even to the hill.

1062
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 4: I think they did it in the end zone, like

1063
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: across the you know, across the field, shorter shorter ones.

1064
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that that Drake laid Yeah, did speak okay,

1065
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: speaking of false starts, by the way, that one was

1066
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: he's calling the signals, he's getting a jump Oh no.

1067
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 4: He gets a jump out, still leading right the quarter.

1068
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 4: But talk about making something out of nothing.

1069
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 2: He's the leader, he's halfway there, and he's.

1070
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 4: Like, he's you know, the pace. I know when I'm

1071
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 4: gonna saying, can you give him? You know, give it

1072
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 4: to him?

1073
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 8: It was, it was.

1074
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: It was funny though, because a lot of people made

1075
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 3: I shouldn't a lot of people made a.

1076
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: Big deal out of it, and I was just like

1077
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: to ask you a quick questions, how does this make

1078
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: like him?

1079
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: What about?

1080
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: How does how does this Martian stuff make you feel

1081
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 4: about it?

1082
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 7: I don't want to talk about okay, I think.

1083
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 4: It's great comparison to Brady, like are you happy for him?

1084
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 7: Like I love Brad Marshan, I I have nothing nice

1085
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 7: to say about the Bruins.

1086
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: See the difference to me is I really don't like

1087
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: Florida and I had nothing against the Bucks. So look

1088
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: like Brady's success in Tampa didn't bug me. This is

1089
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 3: kind of bugging me. I don't like I don't like

1090
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 3: the Anthers, and I don't like the way the oil

1091
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 3: is played.

1092
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: The other night, is that last time.

1093
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 7: Publicans said four goals he might win the cons mic,

1094
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 7: he literally might win.

1095
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: The co.

1096
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh had a question about Drake May and whether we're

1097
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 5: seeing any signs so far that he will be doing

1098
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 5: more instructure running this year since he does not have

1099
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 5: the physique of a Josh Allen Jalen Hurts. Do you

1100
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 5: think this team will be running tush push or QB

1101
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: sneak type plays and are there other high percentage, low

1102
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 5: yardage plays this team could or will run with Drake May.

1103
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: It's a tough question to ask, that is, I wouldn't

1104
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: say any of the You don't see sneaks in practice.

1105
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: They don't run quarterbacks sneaks, especially, you know when they're

1106
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 3: not in pads, so you wouldn't even work on like

1107
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 3: a tush push at mini camp.

1108
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: We have no idea. Do you think that I wore?

1109
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 3: I would think that Josh McDaniels likes mobile quarterbacks. He's

1110
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: never really had a chance to fully embrace one, with

1111
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 3: the exception of the COVID year with Cam Newton and

1112
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: he ran came a lot so Camelot, So I would

1113
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: I would expect to see some design runs for Drake may,

1114
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 3: especially in.

1115
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 7: The low red zone area down by the goal line

1116
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 7: where if he's going to keep it, he's probably gonna

1117
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 7: hopefully like walk into the end zone and there won't

1118
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 7: be much contact there. And if it is, it's out

1119
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 7: in space with like a corner or something like that,

1120
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 7: and it's not We're not talking about a head on

1121
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 7: collision with a linebacker and the hole type of thing

1122
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 7: like they did with Cam where he is more of

1123
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 7: a battering ram. But I definitely think you're going to

1124
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 7: see some of that with sneaks. I don't know. I mean,

1125
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 7: like Paul said, we haven't done that at practice yet.

1126
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 7: I wouldn't roll out. You know, a lot of teams

1127
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 7: use their tight end now like a hunter, Henry, you know,

1128
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 7: they'll put the quarterback in the gun and then the

1129
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 7: tight end motions under center and then they snap at

1130
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 7: the Chiefs do that with Travis Kelcey doing it in

1131
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 7: seaid them a home, so and yeah, it's a save

1132
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 7: the injuries so or the risk of injury. So yeah.

1133
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 7: But the design quarterback rounds I think are going to

1134
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 7: be in their back pocket. How much they're going to

1135
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 7: use it.

1136
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 4: Something we talked about a lot last year.

1137
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 3: I think we can all get on the same page

1138
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 3: for in the red zone where you're gonna limit the

1139
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 3: amount of hits he's going to take. Like Evan said,

1140
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: that was something we were talking about last year, Like

1141
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 3: that's a spot work, just it's too hard for the defense.

1142
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: So I would work more about him physically on scrambles

1143
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: because he never pulls the plug, you know, on a

1144
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 3: on a zone read like like Evan just explained, on

1145
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: a design like you know, you're running, you know, like

1146
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 3: you're sort of protecting yourself. It's not an ad lib,

1147
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: you know, and if it's in the red zone, hopefully

1148
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 3: you're ending up in the end zone and you're not getting.

1149
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 4: Hit at all.

1150
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 5: You know, you can sort of justinger what Rabel said about.

1151
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: Most of the red zone plays that happened, it's one.

1152
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 4: To one till bailout.

1153
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 7: In part of me nodding good, mic, I would say

1154
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 7: that's most of the plays. Forget about red zone. Like

1155
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 7: the NFL has just turned into that, and you can

1156
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 7: blame the guy in Kansas City a little bit if

1157
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 7: you want, Like that's that's a lot of the league is.

1158
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 7: You know, they have a primary read and then they

1159
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 7: have a secondary read off of that, and then it's

1160
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 7: just makes something happen. You know, the quarterbacks are so

1161
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 7: athletic and they have that improv skill and all that.

1162
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 7: You know, you can probably count on one hand the

1163
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 7: amount of time you see quarterbacks get through an entire progression. Nowadays,

1164
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 7: a lot of times they just don't have time. Yeah yeah,

1165
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 7: I mean get a dodge.

1166
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 2: But it's not like these offensive lines are you know,

1167
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 2: the Wall and Game of Thrones.

1168
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 7: I can definitely tell that we're gonna have some debates

1169
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 7: about this quarterback run thing, because like I'm squarely in

1170
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 7: the camp of he needs to run, Like if you

1171
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 7: are going to take that out of his game, then

1172
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 7: he's not going to be And why would you take

1173
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 7: away that threat?

1174
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 4: Why are we going to debate, Well, I just I

1175
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 4: know what.

1176
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 7: People get bothered by it because it's the risk of

1177
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 7: injury and they don't want to get hurt. And it's like,

1178
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 7: I get that, But if you're he that is a

1179
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 7: superpower of his right. If you take that superpower away

1180
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 7: and you try to make him into just this pocket

1181
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 7: stationary pocket passer, like you're not, he's not going to

1182
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 7: maximize his skill set. He's not. You're not going to

1183
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 7: get the best out of it.

1184
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: I would just say that if he gets blindsided in

1185
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: the pocket as a stationary pocket passer and he gets hurt,

1186
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 3: it's not going to make me feel any better than

1187
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: then I will if he gets hurt running his own

1188
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:58,240
Speaker 3: read Right now, I think that the sign of progress

1189
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 3: will be the old gains, the first down slides pops

1190
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: up does the little thing. To me, it's it's the scrambles.

1191
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: It's not even the zone reads like you know you

1192
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 3: you're running and I know that he I think he

1193
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: had like a forty yard touchdown run last year. You know,

1194
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 3: and I understand those plays are possible, but hopefully the

1195
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: offense progresses to a point where you won't need those

1196
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: kinds of plays. And you know, if it's third and

1197
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 3: eight and you get ten, get down, yep, you know

1198
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 3: there's no no need to take those extra hits there. Yeah,

1199
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 3: but I would be strongly on Evan's side debating people

1200
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 3: that Jalen Jaydon Daniels not run. I mean, and this

1201
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: is part of what makes them special. The guys that

1202
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: run effectively in that league are are extra good because

1203
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: of that element that they're bringing. It's not just their

1204
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 3: passing ability. I find it so demoralizing when that happens.

1205
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 3: We talk about it all the time over the years

1206
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: of third and long. You got everybody covered and he

1207
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: just gets the first down. It does a little celebrat

1208
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: thing he did best last year backbreaker, just get down.

1209
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 7: Could he get that Patrick Mahomes thing going where Patrick

1210
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 7: Mahomes just runs just fast enough to run everybody and

1211
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 7: you get out of bound. Yeah, he always Now he

1212
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 7: sometimes takes dives out of bound, but often I have

1213
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,879
Speaker 7: no problem with that either.

1214
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,479
Speaker 2: You know, he he's like master unless is cheap.

1215
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 7: He's mastered scrambling without taking hits like Patrick Mahomes truly

1216
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 7: has mastered that, and so that that that's an element he's.

1217
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 3: The master of frustrating, Like, you're right about that. Mac

1218
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 3: Jones used to annoy me the way he used to

1219
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 3: fling his body out of bounds as if he got hit,

1220
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: but he didn't get hit, right, But that's the only one.

1221
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 4: It was just mock.

1222
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 5: Okay, Tim our friend from Duncan about the training camp days,

1223
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,400
Speaker 5: he said, should I assume no season ticket holder practice

1224
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 5: this year?

1225
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 4: No, I would not assume that. I just don't know

1226
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 4: when it will be.

1227
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that wasn't in the group of dates that we gave,

1228
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:52,879
Speaker 5: but if you are a season ticket member, I'm sure

1229
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 5: they'll be in touch with you shortly about that date.

1230
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: So he's also Foxborough residents as well.

1231
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 5: Josh from Virginia writ sin, does Drake may give off

1232
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 5: little brother energy?

1233
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 2: What does that mean?

1234
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 7: Well, he is a little brother, so a little bit

1235
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 7: to his own family. Yeah, I mean I think that

1236
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 7: that's what they like about him, is that he's the

1237
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 7: youngest of a bunch of athletic brothers.

1238
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: Is that like a puppy, Like he's a puppy with

1239
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 2: that kind of energy? Boundless energy? Or what does he

1240
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: mean by.

1241
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 4: Tom Brady was a young brother too. He had sisters though,

1242
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: so I don't know I don't know.

1243
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: What it means. I just don't know what little brother energy.

1244
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: You know what he wants us.

1245
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: Let me try and coach.

1246
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 6: I'll get in there.

1247
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 7: I can do it.

1248
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: Like that's I mean, not that I play I play

1249
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: Bobby extra scrappy because you've always had a fight for

1250
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 3: just playing time or like that part of it.

1251
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 7: But it is not when they draft kind of sweat.

1252
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 7: I'm not sure exactly when they drafted him. That was

1253
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 7: an angle, like I was saying it was the only

1254
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 7: reason they drafted him. But his brothers were highly successful athletes,

1255
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 7: especially Luke May, who was like a North Carolina basketball

1256
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 7: legend and he was always getting beat up on by

1257
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 7: his older brother. And he's going to probably be the

1258
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 7: best athlete out of all of them. Is the best,

1259
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 7: I mean, is the best?

1260
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1261
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 4: Doesn't want them play like basketball in japano Luke.

1262
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, But he's I mean Drake May in the NFL.

1263
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,919
Speaker 4: So it's a joke.

1264
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 7: He did hit like one of the biggest shots, right

1265
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,439
Speaker 7: up there with Michael Jordan's game winner.

1266
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 5: You know, uh eight five five past five hundred is

1267
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 5: the hotline Christians in LA.

1268
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: What's up, Christian? What do you have to say today

1269
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 2: to make everyone.

1270
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 4: Master good, Christian good good.

1271
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 8: Hey. So on the Drake May running project, it was

1272
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 8: surprising to me, but actually turns out statistically that Drake

1273
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 8: May was one more efficient than Jayden Daniels in his

1274
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 8: run too, had a better average her run than Jadeen

1275
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 8: Daniels than three, had more closive runs than than Jadan Daniels.

1276
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 8: I don't know when they got the batom I was

1277
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 8: breathing and on what it was biggest today I found

1278
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 8: hard to believe, but I gets that those are that.

1279
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 3: I don't find it hard to believe at all. But

1280
00:55:03,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 3: he was not as effective as a runner is You

1281
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: can make a big part of the offense.

1282
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 7: Case that he was the best scrambling quarterback in the

1283
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 7: league last year.

1284
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: I believe he was.

1285
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, just statistically, I would say that the difference is

1286
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,360
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels ran by design.

1287
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:19,240
Speaker 4: Drake May didn't.

1288
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 3: That's why the efficiency numbers aren't the same. But in

1289
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: terms of effectiveness, Jayden Daniels was far more effective running.

1290
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 3: He's a huge part of the It's a huge part

1291
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: of the Commander's offense was designed runs by him. But

1292
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 3: like getting getting two yards on fourth and one is

1293
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: a much better run than getting thirty yards on a scramble.

1294
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 2: Why we have a paul and they didn't result in wins,

1295
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: so like.

1296
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 4: Does not commit.

1297
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: Obviously, you know that that that didn't make sense what

1298
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: I just said. I just want to correct myself before

1299
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 3: that one gets out of it gets away from me.

1300
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,840
Speaker 3: The thirty yards obviously is a great run. But what

1301
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 3: I'm what I'm saying is that was a big part

1302
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 3: of Washington's offense was Jayden Daniels's legs. It was not

1303
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 3: a big part of the Patriots offense by It was

1304
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 3: more by running for his life. So you could say,

1305
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: like the efficiency because he averaged more more poor carry.

1306
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 3: Sure you could have all those numbers, it wasn't as.

1307
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 8: Good, But doesn't that get credence to the fact that

1308
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 8: we should then begin to incorporate drink.

1309
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 4: Mate, Christian, We're all with you. That was Evan's big,

1310
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: big point to st We're all with you.

1311
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta establish the threat of him running

1312
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Speaker 5: on a design play that's only gonna be good for

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Speaker 5: the rest of the offense.

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Speaker 7: I mean, last year as Christian Buffalo, after everybody made

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Speaker 7: a whole stink about it in Arizona that they weren't

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Speaker 7: running him by design, and he had one on fourth

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Speaker 7: down where he just waltzed to a first down and

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Speaker 7: he slipped down, and it was that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 7: We're not asking him. There weren't enough gap and like

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Speaker 7: you know, have to take on the linebacker and the hole,

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Speaker 7: like you know that. That's what Cam Newton used to do.

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Speaker 7: And Cam Newton's a totally different athlete, like we're this

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Speaker 7: is about getting him out in space and against smaller

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Speaker 7: guys and and getting them down on the ground.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes I say things that are so stupid they even

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Speaker 4: be shipped my own head.

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Speaker 3: That was one of them that we know that line.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know you know what I meant, But

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Speaker 3: I could just see that one getting out of control

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Speaker 3: on me.

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Speaker 4: Those are really dumb. Three yards, two yards, thirty yard

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Speaker 4: runs not that was that was worse than Deuce is

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Speaker 4: twelve and four. That's good. I'm gonna keep that on

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Speaker 4: the back back yard run like you. I corrected myself. No,

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Speaker 4: that's it's too many, too many. Yeah, that was a

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Speaker 4: stupid comment.

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Speaker 5: All right, So we'll end on that note on a

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Speaker 5: stupid comment. Okay, all right, So that's it for mini

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Speaker 5: camp for all intensive purposes.

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Speaker 4: They were intensive purposes and heart used to say.

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Speaker 2: Intensive purposes when I was young.

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Speaker 5: I wrote that once in an essay. It felt so stupid,

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Speaker 5: you know, got the big red mark.

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Speaker 2: It's intensive purposes. Okay, my lesson.

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Speaker 5: They'll be here tomorrow, but they won't be out practice,

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Speaker 5: and if they are, it's news to us.

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Speaker 1: We won't know.

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Speaker 2: We won't be out there with them. And then I

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Speaker 2: think rookies are hanging around a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, Campbell said he's going to be here for

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Speaker 7: the majority of the time. Yeah, maybe like a week off,

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00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 7: you know, just to take some time to reset, but

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Speaker 7: he's going to be Yeah, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, but that's it now. These are the true dog

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Speaker 2: days of the end of the void. Yeah, but we'll

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Speaker 2: fill them.

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Speaker 5: We'll still be here on our normal schedule Tuesdays and

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Speaker 5: Thursdays up until training camp, and that's when some fun begins.

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Speaker 5: I won't say the real fund does that happens in September.

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Speaker 5: All right, Thanks for watching, Thanks for listening. We'll see

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Speaker 5: you next Tuesday.

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Speaker 4: Hey, this is Deuce. Thanks for tuning into the show.

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Speaker 3: New England Patriots YouTube channel to see this show and

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Speaker 3: everything else that we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot,