1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: by the one and only Weston had Kowitz. We're coming 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: to you, Hear from our studios at lambeau Field, to 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: talk about Wes the twenty twenty four NFL Draft. It 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: was a wild and crazy three days. I'll start by 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: asking have you recovered? Are you all right? 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: I think so. It's always interesting And you were talking 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 2: about this little bit on Monday. You Sunday was not. 10 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: I didn't get much accomplished on Sunday. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Nope, me neither. 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: Well a couple a little later, I ended up taking 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: a good, like two hour nap as well, and then 14 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: I am not a good napper to begin with. So 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: then you kind of get back into the flow of things. 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: And yesterday went fine, and then today has been like 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: difficult to get rolling again. But we're here, We're excited, 18 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: and uh yeah, eleven more draft picks coming into the 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers fold. 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, well, as you said, it was eleven picks, 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: starting with offensive lineman Jordan Morgan in the first round. 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: And I have to say this because I'm normally not 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: right about anything. But I did say on our last 24 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: show before the draft, I predicted the Packers would have 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: eleven picks because it would be a combination of trade 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: trades up and trades down, which ended up being correct. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: And then I said, if Brian Gudakum sat and picked 28 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: in the first round and did not trade, it would 29 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: be he would sit and pick an offensive lineman, and 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: I ended up being right on that count as well. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: So I just have to say that because usually I'm 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: like totally wrong. But of the eleven picks, three offensive lineman, 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 1: three safeties, two linebackers, plus a running back, a quarterback, 34 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: and a corner back. Your first impression of this draft 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: class as a collective and what it means for the 36 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Green Bay Packer. 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna steer it back really quickly if I can 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: to your point about Morgan in the first round, because 39 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 2: once again we saw Brian Goodkuin's take three offensive linemen 40 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: in a draft. That's something that he's been very interesting 41 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: with the way he's approached this where there was back 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: to back years consecutive years where he took three. Last 43 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: year he took none. 44 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, for good reason. 45 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: It was a well stocked cabinet. This year, you lose 46 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 2: some guys, so in coomes this new draft class, and 47 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: I give you credit. I give a lot of people credit. Obviously, 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: I picked Amarus Mims. 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: I was thinking, yeah, you were on offensive lineman as well, but. 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: I think pound for pound, when you really break it down, 51 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: mike tackle, whatever Morgan ends up playing in the pros, 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: that's what made the most sense for Green Bay here. 53 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: I think that's what gave you the biggest bang for 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: your buck. It was interesting how it landed because Mims 55 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: goes off the board at eighteen, Graham Barton is still 56 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: there at twenty five. As it turned out, Geyton was 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: also still available. I think he ended up going twenty nine. 58 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: Tyler Goeiton. But the Packers really like Jordan Morgan. Like 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: his size, they like the way he bounced back from 60 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 2: the knee injury. He was a team leader. A common 61 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: thread between this draft was team captains in Senior Bowl participation, 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: and Morgan was a part of that. I think there's 63 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 2: a lot to like about his forty time, the athleticism there, 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: and then the one thing I'll kind of laugh at 65 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: a little bit. You and I talked so much about 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 2: Edger and Cooper and where is this guy going to be? 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: What's his value going to be? Well, the answer was 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: he was the forty fifth overall pick. And I think 69 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 2: if you listen to what folks like Daniel Jeremiah said 70 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: some of these other pundits, I think the Packers got 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: Edger and Cooper, who I believe will be a really 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: strong pro. I think he's gonna be a great guy 73 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 2: to pair up with kway Walker. I think they got 74 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: him for the maximum value there being able to move 75 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: back a couple spots, get a couple more picks to 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: have some trade equity with and some flexibility, and now 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: you're getting the first off ball linebacker that was drafted 78 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: in this draft class. I could go on forever about 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: this thing, Mike, but I think with how they set 80 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: the tone in the first two days, it reminded me 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: a lot of last year, where you found depth, you 82 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: found you address some needs, but I think you also 83 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: found some really intriguing football players as well. 84 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely to me. To me, the crux the heart 85 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: of this draft was Friday, the second and third rounds, 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Because having four picks on Day two of the draft 87 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: is a rarity. It just doesn't happen very often. And 88 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: through a combination of circumstances, the the extra pick still 89 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: left over from the Aaron Rodgers trade, and then the 90 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: move up from the fifth round to the third round 91 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: from the Rasul Douglas trade. That's why the Packers had 92 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: two seconds and two thirds and taking away and taking 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: nothing away from Jordan Morgan as the first round pick. 94 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 1: We had talked about offensive line and all that, so 95 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: that that did not surprise me. But to but what 96 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: the Packers did on Friday night, I think, you know, 97 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: get you get the number one, the first off ball 98 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: linebacker taken in the draft. You also take the second 99 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: safety off the board, who I believe, and I'll get 100 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: into this a little bit more in a minute. I 101 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: believe he had to be the number one safety on 102 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: the Packers board. I firmly believe that. Then you add, 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: excuse me, then you add a running back to the 104 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: equation in the third round. Really really interesting prospect. I 105 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: want to talk more about about Marshawn Lloyd as well. 106 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: And then you double up at the off ball linebacker 107 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: with uh, with Tyron Hopper from Missouri. That's uh, that's 108 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: sort of the you know, the blood and guts of 109 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: this draft to me is what the Packers did in 110 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: rounds two and round three. When I look at try 111 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: to look at things in the big picture, I think 112 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: the Packers got a combination of potential, if not likely, 113 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: immediate starters at some spots, but also then a lot 114 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: of depth and competition and everything at at various other positions. 115 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: To me, I think I think Edger and Cooper and 116 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: Javon Bullard are odds on favorites to earn starting jobs. 117 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: In Jeff Hafley's defense, that being said, I'm not ruling 118 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: out Tyron Hopper in the Edger and Cooper, Isaiah McDuffie, 119 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Quay Walker that hole and how that's going to sort 120 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: itself out. And I'm not ruling out either of the 121 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: other two safeties with regard to Bullard and how and 122 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: how maybe that shakes out for who will be the 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: starting safety alongside Xavier McKinney the free agent acquisition, and 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: maybe you have another starter in Jordan Morgan. He's going 125 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: to start out, according to Matt Lafleur, at left tackle, 126 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: which means we'll be competing with Rashid Walker, who had 127 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: a heck of a year in twenty twenty three, but 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: he's only started one year in the NFL. That's not 129 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: to say that a guy like Jordan Morgan couldn't come 130 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: in and beat him out. I think I don't think 131 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: Rashid Walker is going to give up that spot very easily. 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna And that's exactly what the coaches 133 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: and the scouts and everybody wants, is the competition to 134 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: try to, you know, raise everybody's level of play. It's 135 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: what worked for the Packers last year with the whole 136 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: youth movement at wide receiver and at tight end. We 137 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: saw how by the second half of the season all 138 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: the competition for playing time and for targets and for 139 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: everything else got the Packers offense to another level. And 140 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: I think they're looking for the same thing at various 141 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: positions with how they went about this draft. 142 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and looking specifically at safety. Know no disrespect 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 2: to what the Packers had at that position last year, 144 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: but I think when you're looking at the draft picks 145 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: that they ended up with here, you're just getting a 146 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 2: different caliber of athlete in a lot of ways. And 147 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: certainly Billard, it starts with him. I mean, it's a 148 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 2: guy that was a starting nickel cornerback for Georgia when 149 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: they won the National championship two interceptions of the National 150 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Championship Game defensive MVP. Then the next he plays on 151 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 2: the back end. He talked about it as his conference 152 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: call with reporters. He sees himself as a three position safety, 153 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: a guy that can play in the slot. He can 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: play both positions in the back end. A lot to 155 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: like in terms of his speed, his athleticism. He's a 156 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 2: Georgia bulldog, and I think everybody understands. I believe it 157 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: was Pat Moore, who's Packer's scout, that even said that 158 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 2: when you play for Kirby Smart, you're gonna tackle, You're 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: going to have a tenacity. You don't get on the 160 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 2: field in the SEC and those environments if you're not 161 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: a competitor, if you're not giving it everything. And I 162 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: think that's something to look forward to with him. But 163 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: you know, Evan Williams is a guy and I joked 164 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: about this and Insider Inbox. I don't know how he 165 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: plays from a play style perspective, but when I close 166 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: my eyes and listen to that conference call, I could 167 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: have swore I was listening to Micah Hyde from ten 168 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: years ago. 169 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: It's a really good comparable because because yeah, just his 170 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: just his voice, his demeanor as it came through over 171 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: the phone with the reporters. I agree with you, there's 172 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: a lot of Micah Hyde there. 173 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: And you listen to safeties and they talk about communicators 174 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: and guys that can relate, you know, to their Teammatesilliams, 175 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: everything I've read in the subsequent days after, whether it 176 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: was at Fresno State or whether it was at Oregon, 177 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: it sounds like that's something that he did well. Now, 178 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: the thing that's going to be interesting is both him 179 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: and Bullard they look like more of the box safety types. 180 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: Guys that have played a lot in the slot have 181 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 2: that type of flexibility. Katano Ladeppo on the back end 182 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 2: of it, the last safety they drafted, appears to be 183 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: more of the back end type safety, and I think 184 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 2: there's value in that as well. I mean, not that 185 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: he can't play in the slot as well, but you know, 186 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: six foot two, two hundred and fifteen pounds, I mean, 187 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: this kid brings it. Had to work and cut his 188 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: teeth for everything that he got at Oregon State. He 189 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: was a walk on, very lightly recruited, waited three years. 190 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: It looked like he was gonna get his opportunity. Then 191 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: he gets hurt. Then he's a three year starter for them. 192 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you've got a chance to 193 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 2: watch the play, but if you want to see what 194 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: that kid's all about. His chase down tackle against Washington 195 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 2: last year, where there is one guy that has any 196 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: chance of being able to bring down the ball carry 197 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 2: before the end zone, it's Katan and not only does 198 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: he take him down, he strips him of the ball 199 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: and they get the turnover. 200 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 201 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 2: Those are the extra effort plays when guys are going 202 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 2: to that second level that you need. The Green Bay 203 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 2: Packers they got Xavier McKinney. That's a huge get for them, 204 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: top free agent safety on the market. But other than that, 205 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: you only had Anthony Johnson Junior coming back a second 206 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: year player with three hundred defensive snaps, and Zane Anderson 207 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: who didn't see the field last year at safety. Benny 208 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: Sap played a little bit on special teams, but overall 209 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 2: you needed to find some answers for that. And when 210 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 2: we talk about the strength of this draft, an off 211 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: ball linebacker's piece of it. Offensive line is a piece 212 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 2: of it, but no position needed more of an infusion 213 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: of talent than safety, and Brian Goudikins came through. 214 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. It's interesting because you know, the fans ask 215 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: us a lout. Okay, so what's your biggest takeaway from 216 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: this draft? And I can't believe that I've been here 217 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: as long as I have and haven't really processed and 218 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: articulated this as I'm about to, but couple things I 219 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: discovered in this draft. It just it was sort of 220 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: like this mini epiphany that I had. It's not just 221 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: that the Packers like versatility in their players, whether you're 222 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: talking the offensive lineman or the safety who can maybe 223 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: play the slot corner. Excuse me. It's not just that 224 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: they like guys who you know, who have been a captain, 225 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, a defensive captain and offensive captain, a team captain, 226 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: whatever that means in college. But it's that they place 227 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 1: they place a value on those types of things that 228 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: is built into the draft board, you know. And that's 229 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: why I said earlier, I think Javon Bullard was the 230 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: number one safety on the Packers board. He was considered 231 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: the number two or number three safety on most of 232 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: the lists that you look at, well, how does he 233 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: become the number one safety on the Packers board compared 234 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: to those other guys, well, all the other you know, 235 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: the draft analysts out there, and I'm not disparaging their 236 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: work at all, but they're looking at Tyler Duman from 237 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: Minnesota and Javon Bullard from Georgia, and they're looking at 238 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: the tape of how they play safety and the things 239 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: that they do, and a lot of people rated Tyler 240 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: Nuban as the better safety. But the Packers end up 241 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: putting a guy like Javon Bullard higher on their board 242 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: because he can also play the nickel, he can play 243 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: the slot corner. The versatility they probably view him, if 244 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: not if not just a better player maybe period than 245 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the other safeties, but if all the other traits are 246 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: close enough to being equal, the versatility is what puts 247 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: a guy like Javon Bullard over the top, and you know, 248 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: bumps him up the draft board. 249 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: YEP. 250 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: Five of these guys five of the Packers eleven draft picks, 251 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: including Evan Williams, who was a captain at Fresno State 252 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: before the transfer to Oregon. Five of these players were 253 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: captains on their team in college that is part of 254 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: the Packers draft grade and how how they build their board. 255 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: And so it's not just some kind of a coincidence 256 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: that the Packers are always drafting these versatile players and 257 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: drafting guys who were captains on their college teams. It's 258 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: part a it's a part of their evaluation process that 259 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: is factored into the grade and factored into how they 260 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: build the board. And it took me a lot of 261 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 1: years before before it kind of hit me. It's not 262 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: just some kind of coincidence. Right. The other thing I'll 263 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: say too, because you mentioned the Senior Bowl this year 264 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: in particular, eight of these eleven guys were at the 265 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Actually nine of them were, but one of 266 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: them couldn't participate because he was he was dealing with 267 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: an injury at the time. I believe that was Hopper 268 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: from Missouri, if I'm not mistaken. But I started to 269 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 1: think a little bit more and I asked a follow 270 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: up question to a question to Brian Gudukunst on Saturday 271 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: night with regard to the Senior Bowl. And I asked 272 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 1: a follow up question again something that kind of hit 273 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: me how important the Senior Bowl is as an evaluation 274 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: tool because yes, these guys, they grind the tape, they 275 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 1: watch everything on video, but all all you know, you're 276 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: watching all the game video and that's that's when you 277 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: know the coaches have game planned, when you've studied your opponent, 278 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, And what you get at the 279 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl is Okay, here Jordan Morgan, here's one of 280 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: the best edge rushers in the league in this draft class. 281 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: Coming out. You're going one on one against him in practice. 282 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: You haven't had a chance to study him, you haven't 283 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: watched any film on him. You just got to go 284 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: out there and play. That's what the Senior Bowl is. 285 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: That's what the that week of practices is from an 286 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: evaluation standpoint, and the Packers put a lot of stock 287 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: in that in how those guys perform in that environment. 288 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: I thought Brian Gudokun's comments on Saturday night really helped 289 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: to explain, you know, what it is about the Senior 290 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: Bowl that makes it different from an evaluation standpoint. So 291 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: those are a lot of the things that were going 292 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: through my head with her to this draft class and 293 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: how it kind of comes together for me. Any other 294 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: takeaways for you in sort of the collective set well, 295 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: and the. 296 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl is an important tool too, And I've been 297 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: learning this more and more over my time, actually, probably 298 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: more with Packers dot Com than even when I was 299 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: at the Prescazette. Because it's one thing for Jordan Morgan 300 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: to be lining up against Leatu Latu, right and to 301 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: see some of the top guys in the country. Then 302 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: you go into the sixth round you have a guy 303 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: like Travis Glover, who, my goodness, Michael. When you look 304 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: in just terms of the makeup of a player, when 305 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: a guy is six foot six, three hundred and twenty pounds, 306 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: eighty four and a half inch wingspan, almost thirty five 307 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: inch arms, he looks the part as a tackle. But 308 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: he played at Georgia State, right, which is a program 309 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: that's still relatively in its infancy in the Sun Belt. 310 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's only been around for about a dozen years 311 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: or so. 312 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So being able for him to go to the 313 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 2: Senior Bowl. I believe it was Jason Wildey who asked 314 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: Brian about this. That's a huge marker for him being 315 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: able to then match up against some of those top guys, 316 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: and it's somebody that definitely improved his draft stock through 317 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 2: that process as well. 318 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well Over went to the Hula Bowl as well. 319 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: He was actually he was actually at two of the 320 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: college All Star games, and that was big for him, 321 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: as you said, as a smaller school guy. That's where 322 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: you get. You line up against the Power five conference 323 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: players and the evaluators get get an extra and even 324 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: more important look at you. 325 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: And then the three guys I just want to touch 326 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: on quickly because we haven't mentioned their names yet. Jacob 327 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 2: Mounk from Duke. I don't know if I've ever heard 328 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: Brian as openly talk about a prospect that they legitimately 329 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: had their eye on in that day three. You know, 330 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: he mentioned there was numerous scouts in that room that 331 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: really liked him. If you look at it, the kid 332 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: has some really intriguing intangibles. He's six foot three, three 333 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: hund ten pounds, runs a five nine forty, very strong. 334 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: I believe he was the one that put up thirty 335 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 2: one on the bench press, a five year starter. Very rare. 336 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: And if I keep telling people, remember the ACC played 337 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: basically throughout the COVID year. They didn't do a half 338 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: season or we're going to cancel the season, and then 339 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: they start playing no he played eleven year, eleven games 340 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. Yeah, he started at He started at 341 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: right guard predominantly. He started a season at right tackle 342 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: when they needed him there. And in the Packers just 343 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: overall loved the makeup of this kid in the. 344 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: Fact, and they traded up for him. 345 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: They traded up for him. Yeah, going up eights or 346 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: forced five spots to get them. Yeah, seventh round. Very quickly, 347 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: just to touch on this, Michael Pratt, I mean, there's 348 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 2: nothing I can even say about this kid. Watch Tom 349 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 2: Pelisero's profile on him. It's an eleven minute video that 350 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: the NFL and NFL Network put together. People were asking 351 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 2: Insider Inbox on Monday when I was writing it, like, hey, 352 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: when is the feature coming on this guy? I would 353 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 2: love to write something on Michael Pratt. But I've also 354 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: I'm of that ILK that it's like if somebody else 355 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 2: does it and does it better and just does it 356 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 2: full bore, you just tip your cap to that person 357 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 2: and let them have their story because the job that 358 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: Tom did on that, I mean, just to give you 359 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: quickly and a synopsis of this, one of his best 360 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: friends growing up in high school played with them. The 361 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: receiver to his quarterback. Guys that came from two different 362 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 2: walks of life. Young man commits to Georgia Tech at 363 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: the same time that pract commits the Tulane. Unfortunately, you know, 364 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: the young man ended up, you know, committing suicide. And 365 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: it's something that Michael has worn with him. He has 366 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 2: the Belief seven tattoo on his inner bicep. 367 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: Very uniform number seven as well, in honor of his 368 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: high school teammate and friend. 369 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: And then also lost his brother later on as well 370 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: to an illness shortly after he had just become an uncle. 371 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: His brother had just had a child. So a very 372 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: interesting story and interesting look into him, and I'll tell 373 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: you what for an eleven minute piece, it completely just 374 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: zips right by. Then finally Kaylan King last pick for 375 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: the Packers. This is a guy Michael that coming off 376 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: of his true sophomore year at Penn State eighteen breakups 377 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: twenty two breakups depending on who you talk to, three 378 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: interceptions looked, you know, played incredible for the Nitney Lions. 379 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: He comes back his junior year, it doesn't go as well. 380 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: Only two passes defense this past season. He has this 381 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: precipitous all down the draft boards ends up going two 382 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: fifty five overall. 383 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: And he chose to come out early. He could have stayed, 384 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: but he chose to come out early and then ends 385 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: up falling all the way to the seventh round when 386 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: the Packers choose him with their eleventh and final pick 387 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: at two fifty five. 388 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: And this is why I've been getting into a fight 389 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: with people on Twitter, because they're all, like, I made 390 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: the comparison to Carrington Valentine and all these so called 391 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: experts and scouts that evidently know everything about every seventh 392 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: round pick that's ever been in the NFL, telling me, no, 393 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 2: they're entirely different players. No, dude, what I'm saying is 394 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: that when you have a guy like Valentine, who also 395 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 2: came out a year early when he could have went back, 396 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: and he also is going to probably be the youngest 397 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: player on this team this year, King if he makes it, 398 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 2: would be the youngest player on this team. I think 399 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: he's going to play his entire season at twenty one 400 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: years old. All of that being said, his conference call 401 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 2: that he had with media and reporters afterwards incredibly emotional. 402 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: You can tell this kid is motivated to show that 403 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: he's still very much the player that he was a 404 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 2: sophomore year. There was a forty time that I think 405 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 2: also kind of factored into this thing, right in that 406 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 2: four to six range. I think he reranted at his 407 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 2: pro dain and it was four or five five, but 408 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 2: still teams were a little bit cheapish there. But I'll 409 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: tell you what he said, the Prema Packers are getting 410 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: the most competitive guy in the country, and just listening 411 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: to him talk about it, I believe him. 412 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh. I think that's going to be one 413 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: to watch for sure, and I want to get back 414 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: to that, but I will take care of some sponsor 415 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: business here quickly. 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But who is 425 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: the uh sorry, I'm having a little trouble with my 426 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: screen here. Who is the most intriguing pick in this 427 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: draft for you? I'll start because because to me, the 428 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: guy that I'm just I'm most intrigued by is Marshaun Lloyd, 429 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: the running back from USC. And I mean I didn't 430 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: I most of the college football that I watch, admittedly 431 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: is Big ten football because I'm a Scotts some Badgers fan, 432 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: so I don't see the West coast. You know, guys 433 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot. 434 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 2: You also go to bed relatively early. 435 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: That that too, I'm getting old. But man, five t nine, 436 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: two and twenty pounds, that's you know, that's the two 437 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds is Josh Jacobs size. But he's 438 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: a couple of inches shorter than Josh Jacobs. The you 439 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: you just you look at the numbers. Now, granted, he's 440 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: on a team with Caleb Williams, you know, the Heisman 441 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: Trophy winner, number one pick in the draft, so there's 442 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: a lot of focus on the passing game when you're 443 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: defending USC. But seven point one one yards per carry 444 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: as a number one running back, that definitely opens your eyes. 445 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: And I actually asked him on the conference call. You know, 446 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: so is that was the seven point one yards per carry? 447 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Is that more because of you know, the speed and 448 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: elusiveness or is that more because of yards after contact? 449 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: And I think he kind of wanted to get a 450 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: message across by with the answer to the question because 451 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: he immediately said, oh, it's yards after contact. You don't 452 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: want I don't I don't want the first guy or 453 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: even the second guy to be bringing me down. So 454 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: I thought that was really interesting the way he answered 455 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: that question. But also as a receiver out of the backfield, 456 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: he averaged like seventeen yards per catch out of the backfield. 457 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: So you're talking about you're talking about a potential home 458 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: run hitter. You know, call him a call him a 459 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: changeup or you know, the in between Josh Jacobs and 460 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: AJ Dillon or whatever if you want to. But I'm 461 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: really really intrigued by what a guy like Marshawn Lloyd 462 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: might be able to do in Matt Lafleur's offense and 463 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: what just you know, what they might dial up in 464 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: terms of a package of plays that they go, Hey, 465 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: this is where this guy can be really good. So 466 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: let's use him this way and see what happens. 467 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 2: And just to build on that, and I'll give you 468 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: a different player in a second, But five two and 469 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: twenty pounds and he runs a four four six, Yeah, 470 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: and he put up twenty six bench reps. I believe 471 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 2: it was. 472 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. Yeah, it was either twenty 473 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: five or twenty six. But yeah, two hundred and twenty 474 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: five pounds. 475 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. 476 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: That's that's close. That's close to what a lot of 477 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: offensive linemen, defensive linemen do. They're in the mid to 478 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: high twenties on the bench. 479 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: With all due respect to Aaron Jones, who I don't 480 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 2: think felt like he ran his best at his combine. 481 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 2: But you know, Aaron, even though he put on a 482 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: little bit more weight going into the draft than what 483 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 2: he ended up playing at in Green Bay, he was 484 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: probably closer to one to ninety than two twenty yeah 485 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: by the time he got done here. But for sure, 486 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: you know, Aaron I think was in that four or 487 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 2: five six range. I mean, it just shows you how 488 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: shifty and dynamic. Now you gotta do it on the field, 489 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: you gotta do it on the grass. But the prospects 490 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 2: that there's a reason why Daniel Jeremiah right after the 491 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 2: Packers said he was his top, the top running back 492 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: in this year's draft. 493 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a fourth running back taken. Yeah, And 494 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: Jeremiah did not hesitate for a second and said, this 495 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: is the guy I believe is the top running back 496 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: in the. 497 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: Draft, and I think he's the perfect fit for Green 498 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: Bay because you do have Josh Jacobs, you have aj Dylan. 499 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 2: He's not going to be asked to come in and 500 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: be the number one back right away. That's one of 501 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 2: the things that people always talk so much about Aaron 502 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: Jones and well, why didn't Mike play him more early on? 503 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: Aaron Jones was still learning how to be a three 504 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: down running back during those early times, Packers just weren't 505 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 2: as deep at the position as they've been now the 506 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: last three, four or five years. So incredibly excited to 507 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: see where that takes us. You asked me, though, the 508 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: guy that I'm most intrigued by, and I have to 509 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 2: say it because it's the guy that I talk the 510 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 2: most about of all the guys that Packers drafted in 511 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: the pre draft process, and that's Eddrian Cooper. Yeah, because 512 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: to me, kuay Walker went on Twitter right after they 513 00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 2: took him He's like, I'm looking forward to by new 514 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 2: unning made out there. He's a little bit shorter than Quay. 515 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: He actually ran one hundredth of a second faster than 516 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: Clay in the forty Quay excuse me in the forty, 517 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: and he is a downhill ceball hit ball linebacker. I 518 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: am so excited to see that infusion into this defense 519 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: because the line that I forget which analysts it was 520 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 2: that mentioned it on the third day, but the Packers 521 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: have basically remade the spine of their defense the second 522 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: level and the third level, between the hashes, between the numbers. 523 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 2: It's going to look different than it did last year. 524 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 2: And I feel like somebody like Cooper can come in 525 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: and compliment what Walker does well. He can compliment with 526 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: Isaiah McDuffie does well. And then he had Tyrone Hopper 527 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: and Eric Wilson some of these other guys into the mix, 528 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: and suddenly you have a really intriguing position battle from 529 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 2: a position where going into the weekend we were kind 530 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: of looking at, Okay, well, exactly what do the Packers 531 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: need to accomplish here to make sure that they have 532 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: three inside linebackers with this switch to the. 533 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: Fourth Yeah, and a couple of a couple of things. Also, 534 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: as far as overall traits of this draft class, Brian 535 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Gudokunz talked, particularly on the defensive side, wanted to upgrade 536 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: speed at various positions. And Cooper is a guy you 537 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: know who's I think. Gutakun said, he has rare speed 538 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 1: for the position, and John Eric Sullivan said, when you 539 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: see his speed on the field, there's a whoa factor 540 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: to it. So speed was definitely not just with Cooper 541 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: but with other draft picks as well. That was definitely 542 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: a high consideration. And as you mentioned, with a guy 543 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: like Jacob Monk and some of these other guys, the 544 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: experience level, I mean the number of guys in this 545 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: draft class that have thirty plus forty plus college starts 546 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: on their resume. Now, a guy like cal and King 547 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: did come out early, came out of year early, didn't 548 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: really play much as a true freshman, only played, you know, 549 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: two seasons. He's he's one on the other end of 550 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: the spectrum, not quite as much experience. But a lot 551 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: of guys in this draft class have a high level 552 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: of experience. Just a lot of pelts on the wall 553 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: in terms of the number of games that they played at, 554 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, in the major college ranks. One thing that 555 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: was a surprise to me when it was all said 556 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: and done in this draft. But then we sort of 557 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: found out why, maybe a little bit, why is that 558 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: the Packers did not draft an edge rusher or somebody 559 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: who would be a defensive end in Jeff Hafley's four 560 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: to three scheme that the Packers are building here. But 561 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: then we learned from Matt Lafleur and Brian Gudakuns on 562 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: Saturday night, after all the picks were made, that kings Leyannigbari, 563 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: whom we all thought had torn his ACL in the 564 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: wild card playoff victory over Dallas back in January and 565 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: would need reconstructive surgery. YadA, YadA, YadA. We've all seen 566 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: it so often with acls. Kings Leyanningbari has not had 567 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: reconstructive surgery. There is there there. He is on a rehab, 568 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: a rehab and recovery path during which the Packers are 569 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: still hoping that he can avoid surgery because his ACL 570 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: issue was turned has been termed by Brian Gudukunston injury 571 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily a tear, so that in part at least 572 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: helps explain maybe why Edge Rusher wasn't as urgent a 573 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: need heading into twenty twenty four, because if Enigbari with 574 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: an ACL in January, you're thinking he might be out 575 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: all of twenty twenty four, if not most of the 576 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: season before he can come back. Now there's a possibility, 577 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: and again it's still only a possibility at this point, 578 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: but if he avoids surgery, you're talking about a guy 579 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: who can make a much bigger contribution in twenty twenty 580 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: four than anybody thought a few months ago. 581 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm really happy this came up because honestly, and I mean, 582 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: eventually we're going to talk about it, but I was 583 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: having a hard time trying to explain any of this 584 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 2: to people because one Enigbari looks fantastic in the final 585 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,239 Speaker 2: locker room. I mean, I'm not judging people and if 586 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 2: they're able to play based on how they're he was 587 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 2: walking around better than some of the people that weren't injured. 588 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: Like after that game against San Francisco, because I was 589 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: in the locker room, Mike, I you know, it's a 590 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: jubilant time. The Packers had just beaten the Dallas Cowboys 591 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 2: basically starched them. Yeah, and it was really hard seeing 592 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: Kings Leanngbari, who went down late in that game with 593 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: what everybody thought was an ACL injury. He had the 594 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,479 Speaker 2: towel over his head. He was inconsolable, just because you know, 595 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: you know, you get injured at that part of the season, 596 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 2: you might be looking at being on the sideline for 597 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: the next year. 598 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: Right. 599 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: Not only all that, but then we see these photos 600 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: from the first day of the offseason workouts where the 601 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: guys are just doing strength and conditioning stuff on the field. 602 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: This guy sprinting around hoops. I mean, he's he's doing 603 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: all the leg work you would not expect to see 604 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: from a guy that has an ACL injury. 605 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, when you're only three months three and a 606 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: half months removed from an ACL injury. 607 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: And lo and behold, the Packers again are holding out hope. Now, 608 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't know much about these things. I was always 609 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: under the under the understanding that if you have an 610 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 2: ACL injury, tear, whatever you wanna call it, you're gonna 611 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 2: have to have surgery because the ligament doesn't just heal itself. 612 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 2: MCL and LCL at PCL. So we'll wait and see 613 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: how everything. I'm hoping good thoughts for him, but even 614 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: more importantly Michael just looking at that position group as 615 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 2: a whole. I'm not saying it's as deep body for 616 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 2: body as like receiver is, but I felt like there 617 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 2: was enough competition there already that that wasn't going to 618 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: be a huge need for them, especially if I think 619 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: Bari is available because a couple things along with that, 620 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: I think they're very high on Brenton Cox Junior. He's 621 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: going to get more opportunities this year to try to 622 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: take that second year jump, former five star recruit at 623 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: Georgia and Florida. You have Preston Smith back once again 624 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 2: after he did some stuff with his contract, where Shaun 625 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: Gary is healthy once again. I thought Lucas Vanes looked 626 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 2: really good down the stretch last season, no doubt, and 627 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: they're at the four to three now. I don't know 628 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 2: what kind of stuff they're going to come up with 629 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: here with some of these all these defensive linemen they 630 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: have in how they could potentially factor into being an 631 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 2: edge rusher in some things we'll see. 632 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: We haven't seen something that Carl Brooks certainly did at 633 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Bowling Green. He lined up on the edge plenty. Obviously, 634 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: different level of competition there, but. 635 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: Hobie woulden't is listed one pound heavier than Lucas Van 636 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 2: s Now. He did tell or Wayne Larvy during the 637 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: pre draft, you know, Pepper rally that I think he 638 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: put on twenty pounds and he certainly looks like it. 639 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: But I just think there's a lot more flexibility that 640 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 2: the Julius Peppers thing in twenty fourteen opened my eyes 641 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: to all the possibilities. Other than maybe TJ. Slayton playing 642 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: a nine tech, I nothing really would surprise me anymore 643 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 2: with the defensive front. But all that being said, the 644 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: other thing, Green Bay historically has liked to play around 645 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: with the undrafted free agents there. Cox was the guy 646 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,479 Speaker 2: last year. You know, maybe there's another prospect there as well. 647 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: And that's the other part, is not talking about those yet. 648 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: We haven't haven't seen the official list from the communications 649 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: department as far as the undrafted rookie class, But yeah, 650 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm sure we'll talk about it again 651 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,479 Speaker 1: this summer as well. No matter how difficult it looks 652 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: to make the Packers fifty three man roster, for whatever reason, 653 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: there always seems to be somebody in that undrafted rookie 654 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: class who emerges and proves to be a guy that 655 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: you that they can't cut him because they know he's 656 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: gonna get claimed and he's gonna go play somewhere else, 657 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: so they keep him. They keep him, even though you 658 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: would think that it would that that would just be 659 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: such a hard road to go, but somebody always seems 660 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: to succeed. That. 661 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: Malik Keith made the roster at the most the hardest 662 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: position to crack last year. 663 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah right, Yeah, there were so many guys. 664 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he beat out Bo Melton for a roster 665 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: spot and then Bo was one of their starters down 666 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: the stretch last season. It just shows you how far 667 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: that competition goes. You were asking about it, A lot 668 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 2: of people were asking Brian Gouducuntz about it. You always 669 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: want to build the most competitive ninety man roster possible, 670 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: But I do think there is a lot to be 671 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 2: said for what happened at tight end and receiver specifically 672 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: last year where the Packers just chalk those two rooms 673 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 2: full of talent, full of young bodies, and whether it 674 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: was injuries or some mid season adversity, whatever the reason was. 675 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, opportunities arose for so many guys for various reasons. 676 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were, you know, everybody was to get a 677 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 2: crack at everything. So we'll see where this takes them. 678 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 2: Now in the off season program, as everybody always talks about, 679 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: they're in shorts in shirts right now. You don't have 680 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: the contact football. We still have a long way to go. 681 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: You have to be able to weather the injuries. But Michael, 682 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: back to back really strong draft classes for the Green 683 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: Bay Packers. They added eleven more picks to that and 684 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: again hopes that you are filling out what hopes to 685 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: be a championship caliber roster. 686 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: Thirty five draft picks in three years. There are some 687 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: there are some teams that don't draft thirty five guys 688 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: in six years. 689 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 2: I wonder how many of the Rams have drafted. 690 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 1: In the last six years. I know exactly. We have 691 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: to go look that up. 692 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: I'll check that out for Thursday. 693 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: Thirty five draft picks in three years. But it's how 694 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: the Packers have gotten from where they were to where 695 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: they are and trying to continue to move forward here 696 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: with Jordan Love taking the reins. 697 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: Last thing I'll mention, and maybe I want to talk 698 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: about this on Thursday, but if we don't, to make 699 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 2: sure I get this out there with the Packers making 700 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: those trades and Minnesota moving up and the Bear is 701 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 2: basically picking where they were. The Packers win in to 702 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: Friday with more second and third round picks than the 703 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: rest of the division combined, and went into the final 704 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: two days of the draft with twelve picks or ten 705 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: picks compared to twelve total for the for. 706 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: The rest of the division. Yeah, the other three just. 707 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,959 Speaker 2: The way that. Again, everybody has their strategy. There's certain 708 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 2: needs that these teams have, but the Green Bay Packers 709 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: were not messing around and here we are. Yeah. 710 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: Well we've gone a little bit overtime again today, but 711 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: that's okay because it was a busy three days at 712 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: twelve sixty five. And we'll have more to talk about 713 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: with this draft class on our next show, but for now, 714 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: we'll call it a rap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 715 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the team. 716 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: We have all kinds of draft content out there. Go 717 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: to our Draft Central page on Packers dot com. There's 718 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: the stories, the videos, the highlights, the conference calls. Like 719 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: it's all out there for you on Packers dot com. 720 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check it out for wes I and 721 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: Mike thank you for tuning in everybody, and we will 722 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: see you next time.