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Speaker 1: Morning podcast. Damian Lillard is going to stop by talk

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Speaker 1: about the NBA Playoffs and as Buddy CJ McCollum, crushing

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Speaker 1: it now for the Pelicans. So I got a couple

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Speaker 1: couple thoughts heading into it. So we obviously know the

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets have completely imploded. I do not blame Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't really blame anybody. I think Kyrie

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Speaker 1: who succeed most in life their personalities perfectly fit their jobs.

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Speaker 1: And this is where I think Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie

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Speaker 1: Irving are really solo artists who just happened to be

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Speaker 1: brilliantly talented in a team sport. I think I think

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers would be better as a singer, not even

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Speaker 1: in a band, just as a solo artist. Grab a guitar,

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Speaker 1: do your own stuff. Kyrie Irving, I mean we've seen

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Speaker 1: it multiple times now, doesn't play well with others in

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Speaker 1: my industry. Keith Oberman really talented team ism. We're with others,

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Speaker 1: many close allies. It's not his game. Twy's been fired

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Speaker 1: five or six times. He's a brilliant writer, very thought

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Speaker 1: provoking guy. Emotionally he can wear you out. But he

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Speaker 1: just happens to be in an industry now with digital

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Speaker 1: that's actually perfect for his skill set and his personality. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Kyrie Irving should have been tennis stars,

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Speaker 1: should have been UFC or boxers. They're perfect for it.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes you're just so gifted, and Kyrie and Aaron

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Speaker 1: But there are limitations to playoff success for both Aaron

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Speaker 1: Who knows? My contracts run out at Fox and iHeartRadio

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Speaker 1: off a bench, I would have no problem if you're like,

427
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: it's not it's not my jam. But part of me thinks, man,

428
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: if I was tight with guys, I love my crew,

429
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: does how does it start? Think about? Do you ever

430
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: even think about that? Is that ever in your mind?

431
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: I do. I think about it, you know, not I'm

432
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna go somewhere and him off the bench. I never

433
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: think about it in that way. But I do think,

434
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: like you know, when I'm not at the height of

435
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 1: my career anymore, but I'm still a player that can

436
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: be a part of winning just because of my mentality,

437
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: and I can shoot the ball. I think the game,

438
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 1: Will I see the game? Will I watch a lot

439
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: of films, so I know what I'm up against, you

440
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: know every night. I can play a long time. But

441
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: I think, like you know, the way I look at

442
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: it is like the next five years, six years. I

443
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: know that I can be very good because I don't

444
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: live a hard life. When I step off the court,

445
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: you know I'm not doing crazy. I don't do drugs

446
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: and out all the time, drinking and stand up late.

447
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I take care of myself. So

448
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: I know that's gonna give me a great chance to play.

449
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: I you know, I take care of my body. I

450
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: trained the right way, um and like you said, I

451
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: can shoot the ball and I'm student of the game.

452
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 1: So you know, once I get past that point and

453
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm not I'm not in my prime

454
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: no more. But you know, I can still give a

455
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: team some good minutes. I'm not you know, I don't

456
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: want to just be out there being a liability. You know,

457
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 1: that's what I'm not gonna get to that point. But

458
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: when I get to that point where it's like I'm

459
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: not what I was, but I'm still a good player

460
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: and I can I can help a team. You know,

461
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: I definitely can see myself doing it. You know, I

462
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 1: said on the air today on TV, I said NBA

463
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 1: players are like international soccer stars. They become basketball stars

464
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: and deal with a blowback. They become apparel stars and

465
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: deal with a blowback. And they also become social icons

466
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: and fashion or music offerorum. You know, whereas Josh Allen

467
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: can be a great quarterback for the Buffalo Bills, that's

468
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: where it ends. Not making a billion shoes. He's not

469
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: a music guy, he's not a social lion. It's a

470
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: big dude with a good arm. Basketball players come into

471
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: this sport younger than football players or baseball players. You're

472
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: thrust into the national spotlight with shoes, with merchandise, with

473
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: basketball iconic and off. In the black community, a lot

474
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: is asked of you socially, culturally, and I Adam Silver

475
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: said a couple of years ago, he said, a lot

476
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: of my players are miserable. I get it. I don't

477
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: see it with you. But is there ever a time? God, Damian,

478
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: You're literally You're just You're out there all the time.

479
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: Does it get to you? Are you ever like man,

480
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: I need a vacation. This social media stuff. You seem

481
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: to handle it well. And the commissioner said two years ago,

482
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,239
Speaker 1: I got unhappy players here like that, and I'm like,

483
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: I see Kadi fireback at guys. You've reached out to

484
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: me a couple of times on social but I don't.

485
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: You're kind of playful on it, You're fun on it.

486
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You'll go out after somebody,

487
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: but tell me take me to your space. Does it

488
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: ever bother you? The criticism and the harshness sometimes the

489
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: I would when I was younger, that criticism really bothered

490
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: me because I just carried a chip on my shoulder

491
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: like about everything because I felt like I had to

492
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: earn everything, So every little thing I felt like I

493
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: had to fight for. But I would say like, over

494
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: the last you know, three or four years, I've just

495
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: been more like I've learned that people don't really do

496
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: their homework. You know, people just people. People speak on

497
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: things and react to things on a service level. And

498
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm like everything that I do is like has depth,

499
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so people don't take

500
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: the time. It's easier to say, oh, he just tried

501
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: to get an All Star Game. But like I was

502
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: mad about not making an All Star Game in two

503
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen. It's like that was eight years ago, you know,

504
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: and people still say that now when really it's like, well,

505
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: since then I didn't made All NBA. High many times

506
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: I've been First Team? Since then, I've been an All Star?

507
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: How many times then? I've averaged thirty points? I've been

508
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't miss games all the way up

509
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 1: And see this season where I know had a dominant injury,

510
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: I was out there. You know, I played. I don't

511
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: sit out of practice. You know, It's like I just

512
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: feel like I give my real self. People ask me

513
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: a question, I'm telling the real answer. If I get

514
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: mad about something, I get mad. If I like something,

515
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: I like it, And I feel like because I was

516
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 1: consistent at being my people, people wasn't okay with that.

517
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: You know. It's almost like they rather have something that's

518
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: pretended or something that's fakeing. Once I kind of stepped

519
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: back and realized that I was less moved by who

520
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: was saying what because it's like they don't even know me.

521
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,239
Speaker 1: Because if they knew me, it's no way that they

522
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: would they would get at me like this, you know

523
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So like, I'm not really to answer

524
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: your question. I'm not as bothered that I used to.

525
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: Of course, some stuff come up now or I'm like,

526
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: how could you say this? And then on the other hand,

527
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: and you know, say this. I kind of I look

528
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: at stuff that way now, But I think the reason

529
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: why I come off as not as bothered by it

530
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: because I do. I am a lot of places, you know,

531
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: I do Gatorade and Adidas and Modello and all these

532
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: different things. But I think the reason why I can

533
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: be at peace and you know, kind of be cool

534
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: about all of it is because I don't do anything

535
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: that doesn't that's not in line with who I am

536
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: as a person. So it seems like everything that I do,

537
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: like MODELO is like I'm not a big beer drinker,

538
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: but I do feel like the fighting spirit represents me.

539
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Like with Gatorade, you know

540
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, boxing is my favorite sport outside of basketball.

541
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Our partner with a boxer. My music is playing in

542
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: the background at a commercial I drink Gatorade. You know

543
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, sure, it's easy, you know what

544
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm It's so it's like everything that I do that

545
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: people see me doing is in line with who I am.

546
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: So I'm not stretching myself thin doing things that is

547
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,760
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549
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550
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551
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552
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553
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554
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,160
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555
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,680
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567
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends that are season ticket holders.

568
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: Great guy, smart guy. You guys. You know there were

569
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: years I had said a couple of times on the air.

570
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: There's a little duplication here. I'd move CJ. McCollum, I

571
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: get a wing defender. But you guys work so well together,

572
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: it's hard. It was almost like the Splash brothers. You

573
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: liked each other, you respected each other you got two

574
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: twenty point a game guys in the backcourt. I mean,

575
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: the league's moving away from centers to wings and smalls.

576
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: You're probably not surprised by his success. Like when I

577
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: look at the Pelicans, they kind of needed not a

578
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: grown but they kind of needed a little bit of

579
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: a like an adult to come into the room and go, Okay,

580
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: all you young chess pieces, I'm gonna move you around. Yeah,

581
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: And I see, so you're not I imagine you're not

582
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: surprised at all by CJ's success and the Pelicans giving

583
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: the son's trouble. I'm not surprised at all, um. I

584
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: mean to go back to what you were saying, Like

585
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: me and CJ had a real friendship. You know, we

586
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: didn't have one of these like, oh that's my brother,

587
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: and you know, like we spent time together, We went

588
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: on vacation together. I was at his house, he was

589
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: at my house. We talked on the phone late at

590
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: night about you know, our struggles, you know what I mean,

591
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: like and to this day we still we still talk,

592
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: you know, And that's one of the in my career,

593
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: that's one this is one of the things I'm most

594
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: disturbed by. You know, um, because it's crazy. Me and

595
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: him would always talk about we knew this moment would come,

596
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: you know eventually if we couldn't win a championship. We

597
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: would tell each other, if we don't win a championship

598
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: in the next couple of years, like it's gonna be over.

599
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: You know, It's like it's gonna be over. So it

600
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: wasn't like we didn't know. Like even the night before

601
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: he was traded, we was on the phone at midnight

602
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: like I think about to happen, you know, like thumbs

603
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: about to happen, and uh, he was like, yeah, man,

604
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: you know we you know, we knew so Um, you

605
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: know it's been it's been tough, but I'm not surprised

606
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: by it, you know, I said it. I think that

607
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: he was exactly what New Orleans needed. Um, they got

608
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: a lot of talent. You know, they got herb Jones

609
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: and Jane Williamson and Brandon Ingram and now you add

610
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: you know Alvarado. They got a lot of Murphy or

611
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: you know his name trade Murphy is at his name. Ye.

612
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean they got a lot of They got a

613
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: good team, and you had a dynamic, you know, scoring

614
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: guard that has experienced that's tough. You know, he unselfish,

615
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: you get it. You get a player like that and

616
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: you put that with them, it's makes them dangerous like

617
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: they are. And I also think that, you know, with

618
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: me and CJ, it was two guards, you know, and

619
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: it's it's hard for two guards to coexist and do

620
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: well and win big. And we just figured out how

621
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: to do it because we actually liked each other and

622
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: we was good. I cared about his success and he

623
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: cared about mine, and we both just wanted to win enough,

624
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: you know. But I think naturally a guard goes better

625
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: with a wing, you know. I just think it's a

626
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: better it's a better fit. So I think him and

627
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: and Bi is just a better It just flows easier

628
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: to have a guard in a wing instead of two guards.

629
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: You know. It's funny. Um Jordan Poole's ascensions pretty amazing.

630
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: Twenty eighth pick. At some point he's down in the

631
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: G League. And then I watched him and I talked

632
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: to a buddy Hi mine, who's a Warrior fan. I'm like, dude,

633
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: that what's that guy doing in the G League? And

634
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: he's explosive and he's not a catch and shoot guy.

635
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 1: He's not Steff the shooter, but there's a little steff

636
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: to him. There's a little he's got a little last

637
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: year his game, did you see him coming? I mean,

638
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: did you did you look at him and think, oh,

639
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: that guy is gonna be twenty two a game, or

640
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: like when you caught a little off guard. Two Um,

641
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I was caught off guard because I

642
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: didn't really pay attention to him until, like, you know,

643
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: maybe like two years ago. We played against Golden State

644
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: and Steph was hurt. Raymond was hurt, and we was

645
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: playing against him and he wasn't playing a lot of minutes,

646
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: but he like did a move and he scored on

647
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: me and he hit a shot, he hit a three,

648
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: and he started talking shit, and I was like, you know,

649
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: I don't don't. I don't talk shit, Like I don't

650
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: say that. Not just play. If somebody say something to me,

651
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: I'll say something back. But whatever, he said something, so

652
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: I kind of looked back, like what you know, So

653
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: did we keep playing or whatever? And they had like

654
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of young dudes out there and it was

655
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: high energy. They had it going that night. You know,

656
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: when you run up against one of those young teams

657
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: that just got it going that night. So I think

658
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: I had like forty, but we love stacking Golden State

659
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: and um towards like I think it was towards into

660
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: the first half maybe or whatever. I'm at the free

661
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: throw line and he's just back there, just talking. So

662
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: I turned to him and I'm like, man like, like

663
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: shut the fuck. You know what I'm saying, like shut up.

664
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: That's how kind of session he would like. Make me.

665
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: He was like, make me. So my natural instinct was

666
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: like bro, like I trained and I trained in combat,

667
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: like I'm from Oakland. That was my natural. So we

668
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: start going back and forth. And then like shortly after that,

669
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: we played him on I think m l K Day

670
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: in Portland and he was on the bench and I

671
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 1: started the game real slow, and he on a bench.

672
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: He says, uh, oh, he ain't on ship tonight. That's

673
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: so I turned and look at him. So then Draymond

674
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: is sitting next to him, and me and Draymond are

675
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 1: real cool. So in that game, I end up scoring

676
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: sixty points and we beat him Importland. I remember that. Yeah,

677
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 1: So I end up scoring sixty points and we beat him,

678
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: and I just remember telling Draymond like, man, I don't

679
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: mess with that dude like that, Like I don't like them. Um.

680
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: But then from that, from those interactions, I paid more

681
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: attention to him. And as I paid more attention to him,

682
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: you know, I started to notice his game more like,

683
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: oh he could actually got something to him and he

684
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: got like, you know, confidence about him. So like, I

685
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: paid more attention to him, and I noticed him getting

686
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: a lot better. So I can't say he caught me

687
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: by surprise, but um, it is impressive to see like

688
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: the growth. But I think coming under you know, Draymond

689
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: and Steph and Clay, you can definitely see the impact

690
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: that they've had on him. So I mean it's it's

691
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: definitely been impressive though. By the way, I love Draymond.

692
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: He's part of my podcast network. M I freaking love

693
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: the guy. I've never had a relationship with a pro

694
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: athlete who works harder. He works like a broadcaster. I mean,

695
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not kidding. The game's over. He like

696
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: Russia's Home and does a podcast. I'm like, bro, you

697
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: don't have to do that, like he is. Um, why

698
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: do you think you guys connect? Well, what is it?

699
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: I think we connect because like he just is who

700
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: he is. Like even when people get mad at him

701
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, you're not even that good. You

702
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: just do this, you just do that. He like he

703
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: keeps the same energy, you know, and he's he is

704
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: who he is. And I can appreciate that because you know,

705
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: when people talk, I listen, and when people behave a

706
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: certain way when they have success, I pay attention. When

707
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: they behave a certain way when they struggle, I pay

708
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: attention to that. So Draymond is one of the few

709
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: people that I can I can say I respect in

710
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: all of those situations, right, you know, his response and

711
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: his reaction and all those situations. And then even in

712
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: person when me and him have did like this, he'll

713
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: step to me. I'll step to him. You know, we

714
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: didn't got double text before and then after the game

715
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: we're talking, you know, like nothing happened, just like yeah,

716
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: but he's who he really is and I'm being who

717
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: I really am. So I think because of that, um,

718
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: you know, we've always gotten gotten along really well, and

719
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: from like the pre draft the combine in Chicago, we

720
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: are what was it, uh, the rookie rookie transition program.

721
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Like me and Draymond, you know, we we connected over that,

722
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 1: and you know, I remember him talking about like, man,

723
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop to the second round. I'm better than

724
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: these dudes. And I was telling them like, bro, you're

725
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: gonna like you're gonna be all right, you know. So

726
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: like we've we've always connected like that, you know. Um,

727
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: there were rumors about a year ago, maybe less about

728
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons in Portland. Yeah, and one of the things

729
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: I said, I'm like, man, Damian loves basketball. He's not

730
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: gonna be great with us. If you don't love basketball,

731
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: if you're indifferent, it's not gonna work. And you know, Dame,

732
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: not everybody loves basketball. Some guys love what basketball does

733
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: for them. That's what I mean. I love broadcasting. Everybody

734
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: loves it. They like to check. Um. I look at

735
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: this situation in Brooklyn and I don't know Ben Simmons,

736
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: but I'm like, man, if you love it. I mean,

737
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan was fighting with a broken toe to play

738
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: and the doctors are like, you can't play, you have

739
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: broken feet. Like I watch it and I look at

740
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: him and I'm not an expert, but I wonder if

741
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: he loves the game. And Dame, have you ever played

742
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: with guys that you don't think love it. Yeah, I

743
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: played with people that I was just like, you know,

744
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: when it's going well, they really enjoy it, you know,

745
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: But everything that comes with the game, you know, it's

746
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, you you're beating yourself up,

747
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: you know, you're tired, you got to travel like it.

748
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: And then there's those times where everybody's gonna have that

749
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: hot you know, winning streets, big scoring nights, hot streets, whatever.

750
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: It's a lot of things can get you on the

751
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: high or you're just loving it, But there's more situations

752
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: outside of that word. It requires you loving a game

753
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: to push through. And I think when those moments come,

754
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: which they come off and you notice in them, and

755
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: you know a lot of players where it's like, uh,

756
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: he don't really love it, love it. You know, he

757
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: enjoys it. But like you know, if I tweak my

758
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: ankle in the first quarter, like I'm gonna walk it off,

759
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to the back. If I if I

760
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: do a little something to my risks, or if something

761
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: happened where it's not like nothing but it's a little

762
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: bit of something, I'm gonna test it out myself before

763
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to training the training staff come check

764
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: me out for and I'm out the game for Like no,

765
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like walk it off. I'm gonna take a shot.

766
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something where I'm testing it myself because like,

767
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: I want to be out here. You know, it's been

768
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: a lot of times where our staff would be like,

769
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: so damn, you know tonight, you know we gotta back

770
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: to back tomorrow, you know, you know, what do you

771
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 1: think about you know tonight just sitting this one and

772
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: then you know we'll have you for the second out

773
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: of back to back, Like, well, I'm playing tonight and

774
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: I'm playing tomorrow. If I can't play, like we're gonna

775
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: find out during the game, we're not gonna you're not

776
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: gonna go into this. You're telling me like I'm gonna

777
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: play tonight if my body don't recover or like we'll

778
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: see you know, But it's it's just I want to play.

779
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: I want to be out there, you know, so um

780
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: and I don't. It takes it takes a lot to

781
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: a lot of love to be that way because I

782
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: have games where I you know, the East Coast road trip,

783
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: middle of the trip and I I'm in the layup lines,

784
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: and I'm just like my body is like, man, I

785
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: do not want to be out here right now, and

786
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: I might start the first quarter slow, but like second

787
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: quarter is gonna it's gonna turn on and it's gonna

788
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: be there. But my love for the game allows me

789
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: to have that moments. Yeah, it's like, man, I don't

790
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: want to be out here, but I know something don't

791
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: get me there, and then I get there. So you

792
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: definitely gotta love a game, man. And I don't think

793
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: it's I don't think it's that many people that really,

794
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: really truly love it like that. Finally, now this is

795
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: gonna sound like I just don't know anything, but I'm

796
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: gonna ask you a music question. So, when you're creating

797
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: a song, does it start with a melody? Is there

798
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: a lyric? I mean, have you ever driving in your

799
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: car and you're just thinking about something and you hear something,

800
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: Think it's a sentence? Or is the hook a melody?

801
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: When you create something, is a lot of it ad

802
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: lived or do you go into the studio you have

803
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: a real sense. I mean, I've watched a lot of

804
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: these documentaries on songs. I mean I was watching one

805
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: of the beatles like two months ago, and they were

806
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: sitting there playing for like forty minutes, and then one

807
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: of them riffed for like four seconds and they all went,

808
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. Like take me to the genesis

809
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: of a song? Where's the hook? The melody? Is it lyrics?

810
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 1: Where does it come from? I mean, for me, I'm

811
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: usually it usually comes from whatever the production sounds like.

812
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: You know I like, for me, I rap, So I'll

813
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: have you know, a specific producer that I work with

814
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: because he makes the sound that I typically like. So

815
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm usually getting a lot of my beats from him.

816
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: I'll go to the studio and I'll just listen to

817
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, say they send me sixty beats. I'll play one.

818
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: I'll let it play for about a minute, and in

819
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: that minute, I'll know like, how do I feel about this? Dude?

820
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: This move me anyway? And I'll be like, go to

821
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: the next one, and they'll play the same. He'll play

822
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,879
Speaker 1: another one, and I'd like, go to the next one,

823
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: and then I'll hear one and it will just do

824
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: something to him, and then I'll be like, luke that.

825
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: So the beat will just continue to play, play and play.

826
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll sit there thirty minutes, just like and I'll

827
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: just be mumbling to myself. Then like it'll literally be

828
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: like that I'm in like just kind of on the couch,

829
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: just mumbling to myself, and then I'll go into my

830
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: notes and I'll find something and I'll be like, it'll

831
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: be one line, and I'll start with that line, and

832
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, that usually will determine the direction that I'm

833
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: gonna go in with the song. And once I do that,

834
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: then it's like I like to find a way to

835
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: I like to find a way to incorporate some type

836
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: of melody within that. It's not like, oh, it's gonna

837
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: sound like this, it's gonna sound like that. It's like

838
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: everything is piece after piece for me, you know, I

839
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: think different for everybody. But I'm never just like, Okay,

840
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: this is the hook, Okay, I'm gonna say this, Okay,

841
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: this is what you know. I'm just kind of like

842
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: piecing it together as I sit there. And then other

843
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: times I'll hear I'll hear it be in the car.

844
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: I could be driving and I could just start thinking

845
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: the words, you know, I just start thinking of rhymes

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Speaker 1: got to find it again. But like that's usually how

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Speaker 1: my presence is, all right. I was concerned that that

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Speaker 1: asked in the history of your career. That's a good

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Speaker 1: question because I've always I've always wondered, like I wonder

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Speaker 1: the mic and just start wrapping. Did you start saying stuff?

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Speaker 1: And then he was like, all right, let me hear

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Speaker 1: something else, you know, And then he had just rapped,

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Speaker 1: like he just constantly is rapping, rapping, rapping, So it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like he was writing nothing down. He's just like

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Speaker 1: piecing it together. But on the mic, you know, so

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Speaker 1: it was it was in present, but I've seen how's

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Speaker 1: your abdomen injury? Oh good, so you're good now good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you feel as healthy as you felt. I feel as

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Speaker 1: healthy as I felt in a long term, just like, Um,

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Speaker 1: the number one thing like with my with my injury

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Speaker 1: that I had was I've had it for so long.

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Speaker 1: Like the first time I I started to deal with

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Speaker 1: as it as it got. It was just like at

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Speaker 1: next day I would feel fine, and then it would

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Speaker 1: just lock up at the end of like the more

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Speaker 1: I pounded on it, it would just tighten up and

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Speaker 1: I would get more uncomfortable. And then the next year

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Speaker 1: it was a little worse, and that she was a

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Speaker 1: little worse. And then I think, um, last season was

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Speaker 1: not this past season that just finished, but um twenty one,

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Speaker 1: twenty one season, that was the worst it had been.

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Speaker 1: by the time by the time I got to Vegas,

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Speaker 1: like at our first practice, like I told, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, just let us know what you need. So

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Speaker 1: I basically limped all the way through like Vegas through Tokyo, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, and everybody own team was like, man, just

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Speaker 1: give us what you give us, what you can give us.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm here now, so I might

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Speaker 1: I might as well finish it out. But I think

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Speaker 1: just you know that part, I knew it was done.

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Speaker 1: And then I like had my wedding coming up, I

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Speaker 1: have my honeymoon planned, I'd already paid for everything, so

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Speaker 1: I couldn't I couldn't schedule the surgery and then the

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Speaker 1: recovery in that window of time. So I married in

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Speaker 1: September and we got back from Olympics in like mid

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Speaker 1: August or something like that. So I just didn't add

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Speaker 1: a window of time. So I was like whatever, I

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Speaker 1: played through it before. So I took some time off.

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Speaker 1: Then I started training again, and then when I came

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Speaker 1: back to training camp, I knew. I knew the first

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Speaker 1: day at camp like it's gonna be a tough year.

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Speaker 1: You know, but I didn't see it getting to the

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Speaker 1: point that it got to be just it just kept

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Speaker 1: getting worse. So yeah, you know, I went to see

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Speaker 1: some specialists and it was like, yeah, you you need

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Speaker 1: to have surgery. So I just went on and wouldn't

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Speaker 1: get it. And you know, I know now for sure

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Speaker 1: that I made probably the best decision for my career.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, Well, a member of the seventy fifth anniversary

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Speaker 1: team in the NBA, one of the class guys in

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Speaker 1: the league, easy to root for on a beautiful Oregon afternoon.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you doing this. You're a busy guy. I

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Speaker 1: got a million people grabbing at Yeah. I'm a huge

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Speaker 1: fan and this is great. Draymond's gonna love this too.

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Speaker 1: He's a whole, He's a he's a big dog in

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Speaker 1: But I really appreciate it. Dame No, I appreciate you

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