1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:22,755 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Convicted 2 00:00:22,835 --> 00:00:28,555 Speaker 1: felon Donald Trump has been found guilty and guilty, and 3 00:00:28,675 --> 00:00:32,995 Speaker 1: guilty and guilty, guilty, guilty and guilty, guilty, guilty, and 4 00:00:33,115 --> 00:00:38,515 Speaker 1: guilty and guilty, guilty, ish, guilty, adjacent guilty, esque, also 5 00:00:38,635 --> 00:00:43,995 Speaker 1: guilty and guilty, gay, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, very guilty, 6 00:00:44,035 --> 00:00:48,395 Speaker 1: repeatedly guilty, incredibly guilty, extra guilty, extra large guilty, extra 7 00:00:48,475 --> 00:00:53,075 Speaker 1: crispy guilty, diet guilty, lemon scented guilty, family size guilty, 8 00:00:53,115 --> 00:01:00,515 Speaker 1: tartar control guilty, and lastly not not guilty. Of course, 9 00:01:00,595 --> 00:01:04,195 Speaker 1: we knew he was guilty. This was just the legal 10 00:01:04,235 --> 00:01:08,195 Speaker 1: system confirming it and before getting to what really matters 11 00:01:08,275 --> 00:01:11,235 Speaker 1: right now, which is in fact what happens not right now. 12 00:01:11,275 --> 00:01:14,595 Speaker 1: But next I would like to observe that, no, this 13 00:01:14,795 --> 00:01:19,035 Speaker 1: was not the legal system finally getting around to confirming 14 00:01:19,075 --> 00:01:22,755 Speaker 1: that he's guilty. Convicted felon. Donald Trump is now O 15 00:01:23,035 --> 00:01:27,595 Speaker 1: for five on trial his corporation guilty of seventeen felonies, 16 00:01:27,755 --> 00:01:31,515 Speaker 1: his first Egene Carroll trial finding him liable for sexual 17 00:01:31,515 --> 00:01:35,875 Speaker 1: abuse and defamation, his second Egen Carroll trial, finding him 18 00:01:36,035 --> 00:01:38,835 Speaker 1: more guilty. For a total of eighty nine million dollars 19 00:01:38,835 --> 00:01:42,275 Speaker 1: in liability. He was guilty in his civil fraud case 20 00:01:42,475 --> 00:01:44,355 Speaker 1: for a total of three hundred and fifty five million 21 00:01:44,395 --> 00:01:47,755 Speaker 1: in liability, and now thirty four count them thirty four 22 00:01:47,795 --> 00:01:53,595 Speaker 1: felonies thirty four and oh number thirty four, s Keel O'Neill, 23 00:01:54,395 --> 00:01:57,515 Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan thirty four, Austin Matthews, and best of all, 24 00:01:57,595 --> 00:02:05,315 Speaker 1: hersh Sholwalker. Trump just got herschel Walker thirty four. And 25 00:02:05,435 --> 00:02:08,595 Speaker 1: before I stop celebrating, I really need clarification from the 26 00:02:08,635 --> 00:02:11,795 Speaker 1: millions of Trump cultists who are just as assuredly not 27 00:02:12,395 --> 00:02:17,235 Speaker 1: stopping symbolically nailing themselves to crosses right now. Is this, 28 00:02:17,835 --> 00:02:22,675 Speaker 1: Fernando valezuela uniform number worth of thirty four convictions? Is 29 00:02:22,715 --> 00:02:27,035 Speaker 1: this the political gift from the Democrats and Biden that 30 00:02:27,115 --> 00:02:31,075 Speaker 1: assures Trump wins the election, as you all keep saying, 31 00:02:31,475 --> 00:02:35,635 Speaker 1: or is it election interference that guarantees he does not 32 00:02:35,835 --> 00:02:39,035 Speaker 1: win the election, as you idiots also all keep saying. 33 00:02:40,995 --> 00:02:43,795 Speaker 1: Because this is where I finally get to what's next, 34 00:02:43,835 --> 00:02:47,555 Speaker 1: And what's next is no, it's neither. What it is 35 00:02:47,555 --> 00:02:55,435 Speaker 1: is potentially just enough, just this, no sentence to jail, 36 00:02:55,955 --> 00:02:59,875 Speaker 1: no espionage trial, no election subversion trial, no Georgia trial, 37 00:03:00,155 --> 00:03:05,675 Speaker 1: just this, just this conviction, these convictions, this could cost 38 00:03:05,715 --> 00:03:10,195 Speaker 1: him two percent of Republican voters. That's where the polling 39 00:03:10,275 --> 00:03:14,155 Speaker 1: seems to have bottomed out. All of the polling done 40 00:03:14,195 --> 00:03:17,475 Speaker 1: before the verdict. Did I mention? They found him guilty 41 00:03:17,475 --> 00:03:20,435 Speaker 1: thirty four times. It's like three convictions per hour of 42 00:03:20,515 --> 00:03:26,875 Speaker 1: jury deliberation. And yet every news organization, every news organization 43 00:03:27,235 --> 00:03:30,515 Speaker 1: has reported or printed or posted that statistic that it 44 00:03:30,555 --> 00:03:34,195 Speaker 1: could cost him, according to polling, two percent, maybe more, 45 00:03:34,275 --> 00:03:37,595 Speaker 1: but two percent of Republican support, as if that meant 46 00:03:37,635 --> 00:03:40,595 Speaker 1: it was going to cost him like thirty four votes. 47 00:03:41,875 --> 00:03:46,915 Speaker 1: The loss of two percent of Trump's Republican support in 48 00:03:46,955 --> 00:03:52,875 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty presidential election would have cost Trump one million, 49 00:03:52,955 --> 00:03:55,795 Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty four, four hundred and eighty votes. 50 00:03:57,595 --> 00:04:00,675 Speaker 1: If the two percent applied evenly to the electoral college, 51 00:04:00,755 --> 00:04:05,515 Speaker 1: it would have cost him five electoral votes. The loss 52 00:04:05,555 --> 00:04:08,995 Speaker 1: of two percent of Republican support in the twenty sixteen 53 00:04:09,075 --> 00:04:13,635 Speaker 1: presidential election would have cost convicted Fellon Donald Trump forty 54 00:04:13,675 --> 00:04:17,075 Speaker 1: six thousand votes in Michigan. It would have cost him 55 00:04:17,075 --> 00:04:20,795 Speaker 1: fifty nine four hundred votes in Pennsylvania. Would have cost 56 00:04:20,835 --> 00:04:23,395 Speaker 1: him twenty eight thousand votes in Wisconsin. In other words, 57 00:04:23,475 --> 00:04:27,355 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, two percent would have cost him Michigan, Pennsylvania, 58 00:04:27,395 --> 00:04:29,995 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. In other words, two percent would have cost 59 00:04:30,075 --> 00:04:36,435 Speaker 1: him the twenty sixteen election, and Donald Trump would be 60 00:04:36,475 --> 00:04:42,475 Speaker 1: a host on News Nation right now. And that math, 61 00:04:42,555 --> 00:04:45,675 Speaker 1: that two percent math is conservative because except when speaking 62 00:04:45,675 --> 00:04:49,635 Speaker 1: about the impact on the electoral college in twenty sixteen, 63 00:04:49,675 --> 00:04:54,195 Speaker 1: were suddenly two percent means Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin go 64 00:04:54,195 --> 00:04:56,955 Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton. Except when speaking of that, this does 65 00:04:56,995 --> 00:05:00,835 Speaker 1: not even address how many of that two percent of 66 00:05:00,915 --> 00:05:04,595 Speaker 1: Republican voters he loses because of the thirty four convictions. 67 00:05:04,835 --> 00:05:08,355 Speaker 1: How many of those go to Biden? Because if half 68 00:05:08,395 --> 00:05:11,875 Speaker 1: of them go to Biden, that means the guilty verdicts 69 00:05:12,035 --> 00:05:18,195 Speaker 1: yesterday just gave the president an additional three points in 70 00:05:18,235 --> 00:05:23,395 Speaker 1: the polling. It's only two percent. Yeah, if the two 71 00:05:23,435 --> 00:05:30,515 Speaker 1: percent that convicted fellon Trump just lost, stays home. Now, 72 00:05:30,555 --> 00:05:35,155 Speaker 1: before you misinterpret my enthusiasms and say, oh good, that 73 00:05:35,275 --> 00:05:37,475 Speaker 1: means I can take the summer off and I'll check 74 00:05:37,515 --> 00:05:39,635 Speaker 1: back in with you on the race and like September, 75 00:05:40,395 --> 00:05:42,835 Speaker 1: That's not the way it works. That two percent number 76 00:05:42,955 --> 00:05:48,155 Speaker 1: is as flexible and fluid and unreliable as everything else 77 00:05:48,275 --> 00:05:52,915 Speaker 1: now in our new unhappy world in which some goddamn 78 00:05:53,075 --> 00:05:59,435 Speaker 1: son of a bitch turned off all the gravity. Now, 79 00:05:59,435 --> 00:06:01,915 Speaker 1: this does not mean that two percent will drop to 80 00:06:02,035 --> 00:06:06,795 Speaker 1: one percent or less. The Mark Law Poll polled on 81 00:06:06,915 --> 00:06:11,755 Speaker 1: this issue last week. Its overall picture convicted fell in 82 00:06:11,835 --> 00:06:16,155 Speaker 1: Trump ahead of Biden nationally by four. Then it asked 83 00:06:16,235 --> 00:06:18,875 Speaker 1: half of its sample who they would vote for if convicted. 84 00:06:18,915 --> 00:06:21,875 Speaker 1: Fella and Trump were convicted in the Stormy Daniel's case, 85 00:06:22,275 --> 00:06:27,075 Speaker 1: and they went for Biden by four, meaning that the 86 00:06:27,115 --> 00:06:30,595 Speaker 1: actual swing isn't two points against Trump or three points 87 00:06:30,595 --> 00:06:35,635 Speaker 1: for Biden, but eight points for Biden. I used that 88 00:06:35,675 --> 00:06:37,755 Speaker 1: two percent figure because it seemed to be closer to 89 00:06:37,795 --> 00:06:40,315 Speaker 1: something like a consensus figure, and as I think those 90 00:06:40,355 --> 00:06:45,555 Speaker 1: numbers suggest it sounds like nothing. It ain't nothing. Of course, 91 00:06:45,595 --> 00:06:48,595 Speaker 1: if it's four points, not two points, that's just under 92 00:06:48,715 --> 00:06:51,835 Speaker 1: three million votes it would cost Trump. And if that 93 00:06:51,995 --> 00:06:56,755 Speaker 1: eight point swing from this Marquette Law pole could possibly 94 00:06:56,795 --> 00:07:00,435 Speaker 1: be true, that would mean five million, nine hundred and 95 00:07:00,475 --> 00:07:04,675 Speaker 1: thirty seven, nine hundred and twenty more votes for Joe Biden. 96 00:07:07,915 --> 00:07:10,595 Speaker 1: The media is summed up the possible impact on the 97 00:07:10,635 --> 00:07:14,515 Speaker 1: polls by saying it's only two points. It is much 98 00:07:14,555 --> 00:07:17,835 Speaker 1: more fixated on the timing of the sentencing, now scheduled 99 00:07:17,835 --> 00:07:21,875 Speaker 1: for Thursday, July eleventh, with the Republican Convention Thug Life 100 00:07:21,915 --> 00:07:27,275 Speaker 1: twenty four opening in Milwaukee on Monday July fifteenth. First 101 00:07:27,315 --> 00:07:29,835 Speaker 1: of all, Trump's defense. You know, the guys who just 102 00:07:29,875 --> 00:07:33,155 Speaker 1: went oh for thirty four, They asked for and will 103 00:07:33,195 --> 00:07:37,635 Speaker 1: again ask for a delay in sentencing until late July 104 00:07:37,875 --> 00:07:40,755 Speaker 1: after the convention, and they stand at least a fifty 105 00:07:40,755 --> 00:07:43,635 Speaker 1: to fifty chance of getting it, because for other felons 106 00:07:43,675 --> 00:07:46,915 Speaker 1: convicted of this and similar crimes, there would be no 107 00:07:47,075 --> 00:07:49,955 Speaker 1: really good reason not to grant a delay of two 108 00:07:49,995 --> 00:07:54,075 Speaker 1: weeks in sentencing. Secondly, there is also the chance that 109 00:07:54,235 --> 00:07:58,555 Speaker 1: Justice Wan Mereschan could rationalize no prison time for Trump, 110 00:07:58,835 --> 00:08:02,355 Speaker 1: even though these are felonies. It has been suggested that 111 00:08:02,395 --> 00:08:06,715 Speaker 1: the real argument weighing now in favor of something some 112 00:08:06,835 --> 00:08:11,675 Speaker 1: token sentence like house arrest or weekends in the joint 113 00:08:11,715 --> 00:08:15,435 Speaker 1: for three months, The real argument in favor of that 114 00:08:15,915 --> 00:08:19,675 Speaker 1: is all of Trump's violations of the gag order. In fact, 115 00:08:19,715 --> 00:08:22,035 Speaker 1: the da Alvin Bragg, who did not just get up 116 00:08:22,075 --> 00:08:24,755 Speaker 1: at his press conference last night and say, I having 117 00:08:25,035 --> 00:08:30,235 Speaker 1: told you so, Losers District Attorney Bragg instead answered a 118 00:08:30,315 --> 00:08:35,355 Speaker 1: question about the gag orders by referencing the sentencing hearing, 119 00:08:35,915 --> 00:08:39,235 Speaker 1: and that is a really bad omen for Trump. He 120 00:08:39,235 --> 00:08:41,755 Speaker 1: didn't say we'll see about that later. He said, well, 121 00:08:41,795 --> 00:08:46,635 Speaker 1: the sentencing hearing is on July eleventh. But again, even 122 00:08:46,755 --> 00:08:50,755 Speaker 1: if on July eleventh or July twenty fifth, Mershawn says, 123 00:08:51,035 --> 00:08:53,875 Speaker 1: I've decided to make an example of mister O for 124 00:08:53,915 --> 00:08:57,475 Speaker 1: thirty four over here and sentenced him to forty years 125 00:08:57,555 --> 00:09:00,835 Speaker 1: in prison. It's not like he's going to be handcuffed 126 00:09:00,875 --> 00:09:05,435 Speaker 1: on the spot and walked directly to Attica. And yes, 127 00:09:05,475 --> 00:09:08,675 Speaker 1: by the way, Attica is still open. They got like 128 00:09:08,675 --> 00:09:12,635 Speaker 1: two thousand felons in Attica. And the best part of 129 00:09:12,675 --> 00:09:16,715 Speaker 1: the story of Attica is that all the online info 130 00:09:16,915 --> 00:09:19,555 Speaker 1: about it mentions the fact that Attica is open twenty 131 00:09:19,555 --> 00:09:26,515 Speaker 1: four hours. Trump cannot appeal the verdict until after the 132 00:09:26,595 --> 00:09:30,475 Speaker 1: sentence is determined, and then, as we've seen, if he 133 00:09:30,515 --> 00:09:33,675 Speaker 1: gets a judge he appointed or another crook, he can 134 00:09:33,755 --> 00:09:39,875 Speaker 1: delay even the hearing until the year twenty five, twenty five. 135 00:09:41,435 --> 00:09:44,075 Speaker 1: The point of this beyond the fact that the legal 136 00:09:44,115 --> 00:09:47,555 Speaker 1: system hasn't finally caught up with him, it is continuing 137 00:09:47,595 --> 00:09:50,955 Speaker 1: to finally catch up with him. Is that just a 138 00:09:51,235 --> 00:09:54,795 Speaker 1: dent in his support could be enough to decide the 139 00:09:54,875 --> 00:09:59,555 Speaker 1: election for Biden? One assumes there will now be a 140 00:09:59,595 --> 00:10:03,035 Speaker 1: flurry of polling, especially in the swing states, as to 141 00:10:03,075 --> 00:10:06,115 Speaker 1: the impact of the actual verdicts yesterday. If there are 142 00:10:06,275 --> 00:10:09,035 Speaker 1: enough polls, we might be able to move that consensus 143 00:10:09,155 --> 00:10:12,115 Speaker 1: number one way or the other, because there is for 144 00:10:12,155 --> 00:10:17,155 Speaker 1: once a practical reality and a meaning to discussions of 145 00:10:17,195 --> 00:10:20,715 Speaker 1: the horse race. You and I have known Trump as 146 00:10:20,755 --> 00:10:23,275 Speaker 1: a crook for at least the last nine years. As 147 00:10:23,315 --> 00:10:25,635 Speaker 1: I've mentioned many times. I met him in December nineteen 148 00:10:25,675 --> 00:10:28,435 Speaker 1: eighty three, and I knew it then. But for the 149 00:10:28,555 --> 00:10:31,355 Speaker 1: vast number of Americans who will head to the polls 150 00:10:31,715 --> 00:10:35,835 Speaker 1: on November fifth, including that seventy one percent of Democrats 151 00:10:35,875 --> 00:10:38,635 Speaker 1: who know next to nothing about Project twenty twenty five, 152 00:10:40,075 --> 00:10:44,795 Speaker 1: this event is important because it is exactly the kind 153 00:10:44,795 --> 00:10:51,595 Speaker 1: of concrete event and the breathtaking historical moment they keep 154 00:10:51,755 --> 00:10:55,595 Speaker 1: hyping on television while the rest of us say, where 155 00:10:55,675 --> 00:10:58,795 Speaker 1: have you people been since twenty fifteen? Oh, it's been 156 00:10:58,875 --> 00:11:01,955 Speaker 1: has been breathtaking historical moments. I'd like to have a 157 00:11:01,955 --> 00:11:06,155 Speaker 1: couple of years without any breathaking goddamn historical moments. Thank you, 158 00:11:07,795 --> 00:11:10,995 Speaker 1: Because still, for everything else that has changed, it is 159 00:11:11,035 --> 00:11:15,355 Speaker 1: still one thing for Americans to look at somebody and say, yeah, 160 00:11:15,395 --> 00:11:19,955 Speaker 1: this guy's corrupt and he's morally bankrupt. But it's something 161 00:11:20,035 --> 00:11:22,795 Speaker 1: completely different to look at a jury coming back on 162 00:11:23,035 --> 00:11:28,475 Speaker 1: day two of its deliberations having convicted the son of 163 00:11:28,475 --> 00:11:36,675 Speaker 1: a bitch of everything. Okay, some other sequelae one. Brian 164 00:11:36,755 --> 00:11:41,235 Speaker 1: Boutler again notes that convicted felons are disqualified from getting 165 00:11:41,275 --> 00:11:46,675 Speaker 1: clearance to receive classified intelligence. Donald Trump is a convicted felon. 166 00:11:46,715 --> 00:11:49,715 Speaker 1: He's convicted felon, Donald Trump. He got a call him that. 167 00:11:50,675 --> 00:11:54,235 Speaker 1: And Donald Trump, convicted felon, is a convicted fellain. The 168 00:11:54,275 --> 00:11:57,115 Speaker 1: Biden administration now has every right to deny him the 169 00:11:57,155 --> 00:12:02,875 Speaker 1: customary other candidate intel briefings and ignoring this law that 170 00:12:02,995 --> 00:12:06,435 Speaker 1: is not doing what's fair. It would be ignoring a 171 00:12:06,555 --> 00:12:10,235 Speaker 1: law instituted for good reason. We don't give our classified 172 00:12:10,235 --> 00:12:13,155 Speaker 1: intelligence to felons. Look what he did with it before 173 00:12:13,195 --> 00:12:19,035 Speaker 1: he was a felon. Number two, the Republican response to 174 00:12:19,195 --> 00:12:23,875 Speaker 1: felon Trump's convictions. Is not only not gracious, the early 175 00:12:23,915 --> 00:12:28,155 Speaker 1: evidence is it's not smart. Yes, they'll raise money off 176 00:12:28,195 --> 00:12:30,235 Speaker 1: of it, of course they will. They would have found 177 00:12:30,275 --> 00:12:36,195 Speaker 1: the money anywhere anyway. But Larry Hogan, the somehow Republican 178 00:12:36,235 --> 00:12:39,315 Speaker 1: governor of Maryland, who could easily now become the Republican 179 00:12:39,515 --> 00:12:43,955 Speaker 1: Senator from Maryland and tip the Senate back to the Republicans, writes, 180 00:12:44,595 --> 00:12:48,115 Speaker 1: regardless of the results, I urge all Americans to respect 181 00:12:48,195 --> 00:12:51,795 Speaker 1: the verdict and the legal process. At this dangerously divided 182 00:12:51,835 --> 00:12:55,195 Speaker 1: moment in our history, all leaders, regardless of party, must 183 00:12:55,195 --> 00:12:59,995 Speaker 1: not pour fuel on the fire with more toxic partisanship. 184 00:13:00,435 --> 00:13:05,075 Speaker 1: We must reaffirm what has made this nation great, rule 185 00:13:05,795 --> 00:13:11,035 Speaker 1: of law, to which Trump's de facto co campaign chief 186 00:13:11,075 --> 00:13:15,155 Speaker 1: Swift Vote Chris Lasovita writes, you just ended your campaign. 187 00:13:16,955 --> 00:13:21,315 Speaker 1: Good call, Skezics. The last thing you want in a 188 00:13:21,355 --> 00:13:27,235 Speaker 1: Trump dictatorship or a Biden second term. The last thing 189 00:13:27,355 --> 00:13:32,635 Speaker 1: you wants, Chris mfing idiot Lasovita, The last thing you 190 00:13:32,715 --> 00:13:41,715 Speaker 1: want is a Republican Senate. Moron, utter, unabashed, irredeemable moron, 191 00:13:42,275 --> 00:13:46,315 Speaker 1: make all the decisions for the campaign. Chris Lasavida, you 192 00:13:46,395 --> 00:13:51,115 Speaker 1: have the brains of a collar stay. I refer you 193 00:13:51,155 --> 00:13:54,475 Speaker 1: back to Olderman's corollary about how democracy survives because of 194 00:13:54,515 --> 00:13:57,875 Speaker 1: the stupidity of those who seek to destroy it. Chris 195 00:13:57,955 --> 00:14:02,995 Speaker 1: Lsavita's senior campaign advisor to convicted fellon Donald Trump, the 196 00:14:03,035 --> 00:14:10,315 Speaker 1: Republican nominee for president of jail. And lastly, three do 197 00:14:10,435 --> 00:14:14,395 Speaker 1: not ignore the new tape which got absolutely buried in 198 00:14:14,435 --> 00:14:18,835 Speaker 1: the news by the convictions. Former Apprentice producer Bill Prewett 199 00:14:18,875 --> 00:14:23,355 Speaker 1: confirms at Slate the literally two decade old rumor that 200 00:14:23,395 --> 00:14:28,235 Speaker 1: Trump is on tape from that god awful television show 201 00:14:29,235 --> 00:14:34,515 Speaker 1: dropping the N word. On tape. There is a dispute 202 00:14:34,715 --> 00:14:37,955 Speaker 1: as they film about how to fire an African American contestant. 203 00:14:37,955 --> 00:14:40,515 Speaker 1: It's the first show. The routine isn't set. They haven't 204 00:14:40,555 --> 00:14:43,635 Speaker 1: even really invented the phrase you're fired yet, And of 205 00:14:43,635 --> 00:14:48,875 Speaker 1: course Trump is a racist nutbag. Why didn't somebody else 206 00:14:48,915 --> 00:14:51,035 Speaker 1: do the firing? Trump asks, why do I have to 207 00:14:51,075 --> 00:14:54,075 Speaker 1: do it? Quoting Bill Prewett quote, that's not his job. 208 00:14:54,275 --> 00:14:57,995 Speaker 1: Show runner Jay Beanstock says to Trump, that's yours. Trump's 209 00:14:58,035 --> 00:15:01,195 Speaker 1: head continues to Bob, I don't think he knew he 210 00:15:01,235 --> 00:15:04,155 Speaker 1: had the ability to do that. Trump on air advisor 211 00:15:04,235 --> 00:15:08,875 Speaker 1: Carolyn Capture says, Trump winces again. Yeah, he says to 212 00:15:08,875 --> 00:15:11,515 Speaker 1: no one in particular, but I mean with America, buy 213 00:15:11,795 --> 00:15:17,795 Speaker 1: a N word here winning Capture's pale skin goes bright red. 214 00:15:18,275 --> 00:15:21,675 Speaker 1: I turned my gaze toward Trump. He continues to WinCE. 215 00:15:22,195 --> 00:15:25,115 Speaker 1: He is serious, and he is adamant about not hiring 216 00:15:25,315 --> 00:15:31,755 Speaker 1: mister Jackson. Look, I know, and I knew it within 217 00:15:31,835 --> 00:15:34,595 Speaker 1: hours that it was not that we lost our moral 218 00:15:34,675 --> 00:15:38,035 Speaker 1: way as a nation the day the Access Hollywood tape 219 00:15:38,115 --> 00:15:41,875 Speaker 1: was revealed and the Republicans did not kick him off 220 00:15:41,915 --> 00:15:46,435 Speaker 1: the ticket, and people bought his non apology apology, and 221 00:15:46,475 --> 00:15:49,915 Speaker 1: everybody who criticized Trump uncriticized him within the year at 222 00:15:49,955 --> 00:15:52,555 Speaker 1: the absolute latest, we did not lose our way. Then 223 00:15:53,755 --> 00:15:57,115 Speaker 1: what happened was we realized that in thirty five to 224 00:15:57,155 --> 00:16:00,635 Speaker 1: fifty percent of this country, our way had long since 225 00:16:00,715 --> 00:16:05,075 Speaker 1: been replaced by something new in which Americans looked four 226 00:16:05,435 --> 00:16:11,995 Speaker 1: and applauded venality. My online friend La Mistal noted, the 227 00:16:12,035 --> 00:16:14,875 Speaker 1: people who vote for Trump know he uses the N word, 228 00:16:15,195 --> 00:16:20,595 Speaker 1: That's why they like him. Elly also jokingly predicted Tim 229 00:16:20,635 --> 00:16:24,035 Speaker 1: Scott would be using that word by next week. I 230 00:16:24,075 --> 00:16:28,075 Speaker 1: think he meant it jokingly, and I know that a 231 00:16:28,155 --> 00:16:32,595 Speaker 1: similar charge using the N word in a workplace environment 232 00:16:33,155 --> 00:16:36,475 Speaker 1: roughly twenty years ago was just leveled against a Democratic 233 00:16:36,475 --> 00:16:41,635 Speaker 1: congressman from New Mexico, and worse. When Politico's email newsletter 234 00:16:41,675 --> 00:16:45,515 Speaker 1: covered both of these stories yesterday, they gave the story 235 00:16:45,555 --> 00:16:49,555 Speaker 1: of the congressman and the N word three long paragraphs 236 00:16:50,355 --> 00:16:55,955 Speaker 1: and the story of Trump and the N word two paragraphs. Well, 237 00:16:55,995 --> 00:17:00,955 Speaker 1: it's all like it's early news. The people baked it in. 238 00:17:02,435 --> 00:17:05,675 Speaker 1: But I'll circle back to that idea that the stormy 239 00:17:05,755 --> 00:17:09,715 Speaker 1: Daniel's convictions will only cost Trump two percent of his 240 00:17:09,835 --> 00:17:13,875 Speaker 1: voters in twenty sixteen and to a lesser but still 241 00:17:13,915 --> 00:17:16,715 Speaker 1: sizable degree in twenty twenty. Lots of us, and I 242 00:17:16,795 --> 00:17:19,595 Speaker 1: confess to this freely. I did it. Lots of us 243 00:17:19,595 --> 00:17:23,195 Speaker 1: were looking for some knockout punch that would end Trump's 244 00:17:23,235 --> 00:17:26,755 Speaker 1: primary candidacy, or his nomination, or his presidency or his 245 00:17:26,835 --> 00:17:29,195 Speaker 1: reelection campaign. If you're in the middle of a nightmare, 246 00:17:29,275 --> 00:17:32,675 Speaker 1: you want to wake up from it immediately, and it 247 00:17:32,715 --> 00:17:38,195 Speaker 1: could still happen, who knows. But bluntly, we should stop 248 00:17:38,235 --> 00:17:41,715 Speaker 1: wasting our time looking for it, looking for a knockout punch. 249 00:17:42,355 --> 00:17:45,395 Speaker 1: What we should do is keep looking for things that 250 00:17:45,515 --> 00:17:49,275 Speaker 1: cost him two percent of his support or one percent 251 00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:53,515 Speaker 1: or one tenth of a percent, Because if the damage 252 00:17:53,595 --> 00:17:56,475 Speaker 1: yesterday from the courtroom turns out to only be not 253 00:17:56,595 --> 00:17:59,675 Speaker 1: two percent but one and a half percent, but the 254 00:17:59,755 --> 00:18:04,715 Speaker 1: damage from Trump and the N word tape is the 255 00:18:04,955 --> 00:18:08,715 Speaker 1: fifths of one percent. Just to choose a random number, 256 00:18:09,595 --> 00:18:13,675 Speaker 1: guess what. He did not lose one million, four hundred 257 00:18:13,675 --> 00:18:17,235 Speaker 1: and eighty five thousand votes yesterday. He lost one million, 258 00:18:18,715 --> 00:18:24,635 Speaker 1: six hundred thirty three thousand votes yesterday. That makes it 259 00:18:24,675 --> 00:18:35,835 Speaker 1: a good day just as important to my mind as 260 00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:40,435 Speaker 1: the Trump verdicts this Chairman Durbin, Senator White House, this 261 00:18:41,515 --> 00:18:45,515 Speaker 1: is simple. If Chief Justice John Roberts will not meet 262 00:18:45,595 --> 00:18:48,875 Speaker 1: voluntarily with you about the corruption on his court, about 263 00:18:48,915 --> 00:18:52,475 Speaker 1: the perjurers on his court, about the politically active and 264 00:18:52,595 --> 00:18:58,035 Speaker 1: biased judges on his court, subpoena him, and if Chief 265 00:18:58,155 --> 00:19:01,355 Speaker 1: Justice John Roberts will not then testify to your Senate 266 00:19:01,435 --> 00:19:08,155 Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee, arrest him. With every passing minute and every 267 00:19:08,515 --> 00:19:12,195 Speaker 1: new revelation, the Supreme Court of the United States is 268 00:19:12,275 --> 00:19:15,715 Speaker 1: losing more and more of it's already near fatally low 269 00:19:15,995 --> 00:19:20,475 Speaker 1: levels of credibility. Like them or loathe them, And obviously 270 00:19:20,515 --> 00:19:24,755 Speaker 1: I loathe them, but a delegitimized Supreme Court is a 271 00:19:24,835 --> 00:19:29,435 Speaker 1: bad augur for hopes of holding the constitutional based government 272 00:19:29,515 --> 00:19:33,715 Speaker 1: together in the years, maybe decades of risk that lie 273 00:19:33,755 --> 00:19:36,715 Speaker 1: ahead of us, and would continue to lie ahead of 274 00:19:36,755 --> 00:19:41,835 Speaker 1: us even if Roberts, Alito, and Thomas resigned today. If 275 00:19:41,835 --> 00:19:45,675 Speaker 1: you missed this, Durbin and Whitehouse wrote to Roberts a 276 00:19:45,675 --> 00:19:49,235 Speaker 1: week ago, yesterday, long before the latest version of the 277 00:19:49,315 --> 00:19:53,515 Speaker 1: latest Alito scandal, just the latest of the latest Supreme 278 00:19:53,555 --> 00:19:57,075 Speaker 1: Court scandals, and they asked Roberts to meet with them, 279 00:19:57,115 --> 00:20:00,315 Speaker 1: not asking for his testimony, not asking for him to 280 00:20:00,515 --> 00:20:04,395 Speaker 1: swear himself in, not asking for his resignation, not asking 281 00:20:04,435 --> 00:20:09,555 Speaker 1: for him his papers. Just meet yesterday. Came his reply, 282 00:20:10,035 --> 00:20:13,235 Speaker 1: in which he, in short, declares himself and Alito and 283 00:20:13,355 --> 00:20:18,155 Speaker 1: Thomas and the other Conservatives, the kings and Queens of 284 00:20:18,195 --> 00:20:24,355 Speaker 1: the United States for life, answerable to no one. I quote, 285 00:20:24,555 --> 00:20:27,995 Speaker 1: I must respectfully decline your request for a meeting, as 286 00:20:28,035 --> 00:20:31,315 Speaker 1: noted in my letter to Chairman Durbin last April, apart 287 00:20:31,355 --> 00:20:35,795 Speaker 1: from ceremonial events, only on rare occasions in our nation's history, 288 00:20:36,115 --> 00:20:40,035 Speaker 1: as a sitting chief justice met with legislators, even in 289 00:20:40,075 --> 00:20:43,915 Speaker 1: a public setting such as a committee hearing with members 290 00:20:43,995 --> 00:20:50,515 Speaker 1: of both political parties present separation of powers concerns and 291 00:20:50,595 --> 00:20:56,955 Speaker 1: the importance of preserving judicial independence. Council against such appearances. Moreover, 292 00:20:57,275 --> 00:21:00,915 Speaker 1: the format proposed a meeting with leaders of only one 293 00:21:01,035 --> 00:21:04,795 Speaker 1: party who have expressed an interest in matters currently pending 294 00:21:04,835 --> 00:21:09,395 Speaker 1: before the Court simply underscores that participating in such a 295 00:21:09,435 --> 00:21:17,075 Speaker 1: meeting would be inadvisable. John Roberts is hiding behind judicial 296 00:21:17,075 --> 00:21:22,795 Speaker 1: independence that he and especially Alito and Thomas long since forfeited, 297 00:21:23,195 --> 00:21:27,835 Speaker 1: long since hoard away, and in Clarence Thomas's case, that 298 00:21:27,915 --> 00:21:32,035 Speaker 1: is meant literally Clarence Thomas is a whore. And Roberts 299 00:21:32,155 --> 00:21:36,235 Speaker 1: is invoking of separation of powers in this context shows 300 00:21:36,235 --> 00:21:39,955 Speaker 1: how little meaning that phrase has for him or the others, 301 00:21:40,275 --> 00:21:43,355 Speaker 1: and that they do not know why the separation of 302 00:21:43,435 --> 00:21:46,915 Speaker 1: powers was created by the framers of the Constitution. The 303 00:21:47,035 --> 00:21:52,835 Speaker 1: powers are separate. The goal of those intended to wield 304 00:21:52,955 --> 00:21:57,795 Speaker 1: those powers is meant to be one goal. If there 305 00:21:57,875 --> 00:22:00,835 Speaker 1: is an imbalance somewhere, The men who wield that power 306 00:22:00,955 --> 00:22:04,355 Speaker 1: were always meant to interact and to try to resolve, 307 00:22:04,715 --> 00:22:07,275 Speaker 1: and to try to compromise for the greater good of 308 00:22:07,315 --> 00:22:11,515 Speaker 1: the United States of America as corny and as perhaps 309 00:22:11,595 --> 00:22:14,835 Speaker 1: impossible as that seems in the context of what we 310 00:22:14,915 --> 00:22:19,635 Speaker 1: saw in a New York courtroom yesterday, Roberts's answer to 311 00:22:19,835 --> 00:22:25,675 Speaker 1: this naive but at least well intentioned invitation from Durban 312 00:22:25,755 --> 00:22:33,475 Speaker 1: and White House is a dignified, gussied up f you commoners, 313 00:22:33,875 --> 00:22:39,955 Speaker 1: try and make me show up. Conservatism as a reactionary 314 00:22:40,035 --> 00:22:44,835 Speaker 1: movement dedicated against liberty, began to assert itself in the 315 00:22:44,875 --> 00:22:47,915 Speaker 1: nineteen fifties and spurred it out briefly with Barry Goldwater 316 00:22:47,955 --> 00:22:51,315 Speaker 1: and to some degree although his corruption truly transcended any 317 00:22:51,355 --> 00:22:54,995 Speaker 1: particular brand of politics with Richard Nixon, but it's stuck 318 00:22:55,795 --> 00:23:00,235 Speaker 1: with Ronald effing Reagan, and it became a cult with 319 00:23:00,355 --> 00:23:04,235 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. And John Roberts was a Reagan White House 320 00:23:04,395 --> 00:23:08,795 Speaker 1: Law Office flunky, and Sam Alito was in the Reagan 321 00:23:08,875 --> 00:23:12,955 Speaker 1: Department of Justice. And Clarence Thomas was in what must 322 00:23:12,995 --> 00:23:17,515 Speaker 1: be seen in retrospect as an utter irony Assistant Secretary 323 00:23:17,595 --> 00:23:22,795 Speaker 1: for Civil Rights at Reagan's Department of Education. The man 324 00:23:22,875 --> 00:23:27,875 Speaker 1: who's trying to undo Brown v. Board of Education. The 325 00:23:27,955 --> 00:23:32,435 Speaker 1: parts of this Supreme Court, this illegitimate Supreme theocratic Court 326 00:23:32,715 --> 00:23:35,115 Speaker 1: under John Roberts. The parts of it that are not 327 00:23:35,435 --> 00:23:40,235 Speaker 1: Trump are all Ronald Reagan still effing with us from 328 00:23:40,275 --> 00:23:45,715 Speaker 1: beyond the grave. The surviving dregs of Reaganism are outdated 329 00:23:45,755 --> 00:23:50,715 Speaker 1: in this country by decades. These men entered into politics 330 00:23:50,795 --> 00:23:55,635 Speaker 1: and government corrupt and backwards looking on day one, animated 331 00:23:55,675 --> 00:23:59,915 Speaker 1: as Reagan was by the ends justifying the means, and 332 00:24:00,035 --> 00:24:02,635 Speaker 1: in the ensuing forty plus years they have only gotten worse. 333 00:24:03,595 --> 00:24:07,275 Speaker 1: They have been here soul so tirelessly in their devotion 334 00:24:07,555 --> 00:24:11,115 Speaker 1: to pushing back the future that they have been mistaken 335 00:24:11,235 --> 00:24:18,555 Speaker 1: for the system, the establishment, and in anything approaching a democracy, 336 00:24:18,595 --> 00:24:24,435 Speaker 1: the system eventually becomes self protecting, which brings us back 337 00:24:24,435 --> 00:24:27,355 Speaker 1: to Dick Durbin and his response to the Alito crisis, 338 00:24:27,875 --> 00:24:30,435 Speaker 1: and the shadow version of this nightmare of one of 339 00:24:30,435 --> 00:24:33,275 Speaker 1: the major parties running a convicted felon, a thirty four 340 00:24:33,315 --> 00:24:36,555 Speaker 1: times convicted felon as its candidate in a presidential election 341 00:24:36,875 --> 00:24:41,835 Speaker 1: is the reality, the not unconnected reality that a Supreme 342 00:24:41,915 --> 00:24:45,075 Speaker 1: Court compromised in a base and shabby way not seen 343 00:24:45,115 --> 00:24:48,115 Speaker 1: since before the Civil War, a Supreme Court may ultimately 344 00:24:48,155 --> 00:24:52,395 Speaker 1: decide that presidential election in which one of the parties 345 00:24:52,435 --> 00:24:59,795 Speaker 1: is running a convicted felon. This cannot stand. At least 346 00:24:59,835 --> 00:25:04,275 Speaker 1: half of us, at least our side of this, we 347 00:25:04,355 --> 00:25:07,555 Speaker 1: have wish it would never come to this. We may 348 00:25:07,555 --> 00:25:09,715 Speaker 1: in fact have been guilty of living in denial about 349 00:25:09,715 --> 00:25:11,915 Speaker 1: it eventually coming to this. But one way or the other, 350 00:25:11,995 --> 00:25:14,395 Speaker 1: this nation, in the years and decades to come, is 351 00:25:14,475 --> 00:25:19,995 Speaker 1: going to undergo sweeping basic change, perhaps on the scale 352 00:25:20,075 --> 00:25:23,035 Speaker 1: scene between the time before the Civil War and the 353 00:25:23,075 --> 00:25:25,995 Speaker 1: time after the Civil War. As Lincoln once said about slavery, 354 00:25:26,035 --> 00:25:29,035 Speaker 1: it will become all one thing or all the other. 355 00:25:29,475 --> 00:25:34,595 Speaker 1: We will become a nation, a flawed but honorable sort 356 00:25:34,635 --> 00:25:38,795 Speaker 1: of democracy that works for most of its people, that 357 00:25:38,915 --> 00:25:42,315 Speaker 1: intends to do good most of the time in the world, 358 00:25:42,995 --> 00:25:48,115 Speaker 1: or we will become an authoritarian state sharing the spoils 359 00:25:48,195 --> 00:25:54,115 Speaker 1: of a dying planet with the Russians. But whichever way 360 00:25:55,235 --> 00:26:00,555 Speaker 1: it will change, and change is the enemy of a 361 00:26:00,555 --> 00:26:04,435 Speaker 1: self protecting system, and Dick Durbin is so deeply in 362 00:26:04,675 --> 00:26:08,115 Speaker 1: dede the self protecting system that he does not want 363 00:26:08,155 --> 00:26:11,435 Speaker 1: to take a step, no matter how essential, that would 364 00:26:11,515 --> 00:26:16,195 Speaker 1: shatter precedents or set new ones. The essence of self 365 00:26:16,235 --> 00:26:20,555 Speaker 1: protection is never having to face anything new. You don't 366 00:26:20,595 --> 00:26:25,155 Speaker 1: subpoena the Chief Justice of the United States, because they 367 00:26:25,235 --> 00:26:30,475 Speaker 1: didn't subpoena Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, did they. Therefore, 368 00:26:30,515 --> 00:26:33,755 Speaker 1: when the day comes that the Chief Justice is corrupt, 369 00:26:34,435 --> 00:26:39,115 Speaker 1: is politically compromised, is convinced he is an unelected king 370 00:26:39,195 --> 00:26:43,595 Speaker 1: of America, you will let him get away with it. 371 00:26:45,195 --> 00:26:49,155 Speaker 1: We cannot let this happen. Change will come to this country, 372 00:26:49,195 --> 00:26:51,515 Speaker 1: and it will come violently. And I hope I mean 373 00:26:51,595 --> 00:26:55,315 Speaker 1: the word violently as a metaphor, but bluntly, my hope 374 00:26:55,315 --> 00:26:58,075 Speaker 1: that I do mean it that way. Changes every couple days. 375 00:27:00,475 --> 00:27:03,835 Speaker 1: Much of what we know about this nation will change. 376 00:27:03,995 --> 00:27:06,475 Speaker 1: And it is up to us. It is right now 377 00:27:06,555 --> 00:27:09,315 Speaker 1: up to people like Senator Durbin of Illinois to decide 378 00:27:09,315 --> 00:27:13,075 Speaker 1: whether the change will liberate this nation and increase its 379 00:27:13,075 --> 00:27:17,755 Speaker 1: freedom for its people and increase the civic responsibility and 380 00:27:17,955 --> 00:27:23,555 Speaker 1: probity of its servants like chief Justices and Senate Judiciary chairs, 381 00:27:24,275 --> 00:27:26,515 Speaker 1: whether it will do that, or whether it will permit 382 00:27:26,595 --> 00:27:30,155 Speaker 1: the crooks like John Roberts and Clarence Thomas and Samuel 383 00:27:30,155 --> 00:27:33,995 Speaker 1: Alito and Donald Trump to enslave the rest of us. 384 00:27:35,315 --> 00:27:38,435 Speaker 1: Because the Dick Durbins feared what would happen if they 385 00:27:38,475 --> 00:27:45,315 Speaker 1: stopped obeying and protecting the self protecting system. Senator, if 386 00:27:45,475 --> 00:27:50,315 Speaker 1: Chief Justice Roberts will not talk to you, subpoena him, 387 00:27:51,075 --> 00:27:54,555 Speaker 1: If he will not appear before your committee, arrest him. 388 00:27:55,755 --> 00:27:58,795 Speaker 1: The only part of the self protecting system that needs 389 00:27:58,835 --> 00:28:01,795 Speaker 1: to be protected is the premise that we are a 390 00:28:01,875 --> 00:28:06,515 Speaker 1: nation of laws and not of men. And if you 391 00:28:06,635 --> 00:28:10,155 Speaker 1: said that to John Roberts after that answer to that 392 00:28:10,395 --> 00:28:14,715 Speaker 1: question in that letter, it is clear now that bluntly, 393 00:28:15,075 --> 00:28:20,035 Speaker 1: John Roberts would have no goddamned idea what the hell 394 00:28:20,475 --> 00:28:28,635 Speaker 1: you were talking about? Also of interest here say we 395 00:28:28,715 --> 00:28:32,635 Speaker 1: know what happened to Christy Nomes. Dog, we think we 396 00:28:32,715 --> 00:28:35,995 Speaker 1: know what happened to Christy nomes national political career. What 397 00:28:36,155 --> 00:28:38,595 Speaker 1: the hell happened to the thing that started all this trouble, 398 00:28:38,675 --> 00:28:44,595 Speaker 1: Christy Nomes' book. The sales numbers are in, and bluntly, 399 00:28:44,635 --> 00:28:47,675 Speaker 1: I am not believing what I am seeing, in large 400 00:28:47,715 --> 00:28:50,155 Speaker 1: part because what I am seeing here in those sales 401 00:28:50,235 --> 00:28:53,795 Speaker 1: numbers is so small that I feel like I need 402 00:28:53,795 --> 00:29:00,835 Speaker 1: a new pair of glasses. That's next, LIS's countdown. This 403 00:29:01,155 --> 00:29:26,355 Speaker 1: is countdown with Keith Oberman still ahead of us on 404 00:29:26,395 --> 00:29:29,075 Speaker 1: this edition of countdown well after Trump was found guilty 405 00:29:29,115 --> 00:29:31,515 Speaker 1: and guilty and guilt Okay, I'm not doing that again, 406 00:29:32,115 --> 00:29:34,475 Speaker 1: but after it happened. There is only one story to 407 00:29:34,595 --> 00:29:37,755 Speaker 1: read on this Friday with James Thurber, the one in 408 00:29:37,755 --> 00:29:41,675 Speaker 1: which Thurber all but prophesied Trump ascant eighty five years 409 00:29:41,675 --> 00:29:47,355 Speaker 1: before his election and happily also prophesied Trump's fall. Coming 410 00:29:47,395 --> 00:29:49,555 Speaker 1: up on Fridays with Thurber, but first, As ever, there 411 00:29:49,555 --> 00:29:55,995 Speaker 1: are still new idiots, new more brand new idiots to 412 00:29:56,075 --> 00:29:58,835 Speaker 1: talk about. The daily roundup of the misgrants, morons and 413 00:29:58,915 --> 00:30:03,235 Speaker 1: dunning Kruger Effect specimens who constitute today's worst persons in 414 00:30:03,275 --> 00:30:07,315 Speaker 1: the world. The runner up worse Clay Travis, right wing 415 00:30:07,435 --> 00:30:10,635 Speaker 1: nut job sports want to be turned right wing nut 416 00:30:10,715 --> 00:30:13,795 Speaker 1: job political want to be. He's gone after co host 417 00:30:13,875 --> 00:30:18,355 Speaker 1: Sonny houstin of the View by way of the new 418 00:30:18,395 --> 00:30:24,595 Speaker 1: women's basketball star Caitlyn Clark. To quote Clay Travis, right 419 00:30:24,595 --> 00:30:28,675 Speaker 1: wing nutjob, Caitlyn Clark's race and her gender are not 420 00:30:28,795 --> 00:30:31,195 Speaker 1: the reasons that she's popular. They had nothing to do 421 00:30:31,315 --> 00:30:34,515 Speaker 1: with her becoming the NCAA scoring champion. In fact, regardless 422 00:30:34,555 --> 00:30:37,675 Speaker 1: of what race Caitlin Clark was, regardless of her sexuality, 423 00:30:37,915 --> 00:30:41,715 Speaker 1: she would still be employed in the WNBA. WNBA. She 424 00:30:41,875 --> 00:30:45,355 Speaker 1: could be the ugliest person on the planet. Clay Travis says, 425 00:30:45,715 --> 00:30:51,515 Speaker 1: her game still translates her race doesn't matter. Okay, Can 426 00:30:51,635 --> 00:30:56,795 Speaker 1: Sonny Houston say the same thing? Sonny Hostin, to my knowledge, rarely, 427 00:30:56,955 --> 00:31:00,475 Speaker 1: if ever says anything smart. I do think she's pretty 428 00:31:00,515 --> 00:31:03,715 Speaker 1: and she's a minority. Sonny Houston, we're an ugly, fat 429 00:31:03,755 --> 00:31:07,075 Speaker 1: white woman. She would have no media career whatsoever if 430 00:31:07,115 --> 00:31:09,515 Speaker 1: she had the exact same opinions as she does. Now, 431 00:31:09,675 --> 00:31:13,115 Speaker 1: think about that, says Clay Travis. Sonny Houston, you are 432 00:31:13,155 --> 00:31:16,555 Speaker 1: an ugly fat woman. You have no media career, unlike 433 00:31:16,675 --> 00:31:20,155 Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark, who, regardless of her race or her sexuality, 434 00:31:20,315 --> 00:31:24,515 Speaker 1: would be employed in the WNBA. Frankly, we can debate 435 00:31:24,715 --> 00:31:28,555 Speaker 1: some of that. If Sonny Houston wasn't pretty and a minority, 436 00:31:28,795 --> 00:31:31,515 Speaker 1: she would have no media career whatsoever. If she were 437 00:31:31,595 --> 00:31:35,035 Speaker 1: unattractive and white, there's a zero percent chance she would 438 00:31:35,035 --> 00:31:39,355 Speaker 1: be on the view, unquote Clay Travis. Well, obviously, Clay 439 00:31:39,395 --> 00:31:42,835 Speaker 1: Travis is a no talent racist, but his construction here 440 00:31:43,315 --> 00:31:46,275 Speaker 1: has some merit if you in fact pull it out 441 00:31:46,275 --> 00:31:52,595 Speaker 1: of this equation and apply it instead to him Clay Travis. Intellectually, 442 00:31:52,675 --> 00:31:57,235 Speaker 1: Clay Travis is now what we politely call challenged, and 443 00:31:57,315 --> 00:32:00,755 Speaker 1: if he were not fulfilling that niche he would have 444 00:32:00,915 --> 00:32:05,955 Speaker 1: no media career whatsoever. The runner up worse. Speaking of sports, 445 00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:10,835 Speaker 1: Speaking of spots, there's Royce White, who four years ago 446 00:32:10,915 --> 00:32:12,995 Speaker 1: right now is one of the leaders of the George 447 00:32:13,035 --> 00:32:16,395 Speaker 1: Floyd protests in Minnesota and then decided he should become 448 00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:19,475 Speaker 1: the Republican senator from that state. And he has in 449 00:32:19,475 --> 00:32:23,435 Speaker 1: those four years gone totally fascist. And he was endorsed 450 00:32:23,475 --> 00:32:26,715 Speaker 1: by the state Republican Party even though the National Republican 451 00:32:26,795 --> 00:32:29,955 Speaker 1: Senatorial Commission doesn't want anything to do with them. And 452 00:32:30,035 --> 00:32:34,035 Speaker 1: here's why, because he does the traditional African American self 453 00:32:34,115 --> 00:32:37,715 Speaker 1: debasement to become accepted by the white fascists, you know, 454 00:32:37,755 --> 00:32:42,115 Speaker 1: the Tim Scott ploy, only with lots of online swearing 455 00:32:42,195 --> 00:32:45,435 Speaker 1: that even Tim Scott would not think of. I can't 456 00:32:45,475 --> 00:32:49,275 Speaker 1: say that. NBC News is now citing documents showing that 457 00:32:49,315 --> 00:32:52,515 Speaker 1: White quote was ordered to catch up after he fell 458 00:32:52,555 --> 00:32:56,315 Speaker 1: behind on court mandated child support payments at least a 459 00:32:56,355 --> 00:32:58,755 Speaker 1: half a dozen times from twenty twenty to twenty twenty three. 460 00:32:58,995 --> 00:33:02,355 Speaker 1: Court filings in two cases show White, a father of four, 461 00:33:02,475 --> 00:33:05,395 Speaker 1: was twice found in contempt of court over the findings, 462 00:33:05,595 --> 00:33:07,915 Speaker 1: one of them in a Minnesota county, where he remains 463 00:33:07,955 --> 00:33:11,915 Speaker 1: in constructive contempt, facing the ongoing threat of a one 464 00:33:11,995 --> 00:33:15,075 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty day jail sentence should he again fail 465 00:33:15,155 --> 00:33:17,395 Speaker 1: to keep up with the payments. The next hearing in 466 00:33:17,435 --> 00:33:20,235 Speaker 1: that case is set for October twenty first, two weeks 467 00:33:20,235 --> 00:33:25,075 Speaker 1: before the election. White's response quote talk about some real issues, 468 00:33:25,115 --> 00:33:27,595 Speaker 1: White said in the interview. A lot of people have 469 00:33:27,715 --> 00:33:30,355 Speaker 1: child support, a lot of people have alimony, a lot 470 00:33:30,355 --> 00:33:33,795 Speaker 1: of people have back child support. All you liberals really 471 00:33:33,835 --> 00:33:37,835 Speaker 1: just want to shame people with kids because you're anti human. 472 00:33:38,075 --> 00:33:44,555 Speaker 1: As f unquote, the best part of Royce White's campaign 473 00:33:45,195 --> 00:33:47,035 Speaker 1: is that he is, in large part running on the 474 00:33:47,035 --> 00:33:49,955 Speaker 1: fact that he is. As even this NBC article notes, 475 00:33:50,155 --> 00:33:56,155 Speaker 1: quote Royce White, a former NBA player National Basketball Association 476 00:33:56,515 --> 00:34:02,435 Speaker 1: whil Sir Royce White's NBA career lasted eight minutes and 477 00:34:02,475 --> 00:34:07,755 Speaker 1: fifty five seconds. Eight minutes and fifty five seconds that's 478 00:34:07,795 --> 00:34:11,355 Speaker 1: how long he played for the twenty fourteen Sacramento Kings. 479 00:34:11,955 --> 00:34:15,235 Speaker 1: He played fifty six seconds in the March twenty first 480 00:34:15,275 --> 00:34:18,795 Speaker 1: game against San Antonio forty nine seconds on March twenty 481 00:34:18,835 --> 00:34:21,595 Speaker 1: third against Milwaukee, and a whopping seven minutes and ten 482 00:34:21,715 --> 00:34:25,955 Speaker 1: seconds on March twenty sixth against New York. Royce White 483 00:34:25,955 --> 00:34:29,915 Speaker 1: scored no points, Riyce White had no rebounds, Royce White 484 00:34:29,915 --> 00:34:33,475 Speaker 1: made no free throws, Royce White made no assists, and 485 00:34:33,635 --> 00:34:39,075 Speaker 1: Royce White took one shot which he missed. In other words, 486 00:34:39,435 --> 00:34:43,635 Speaker 1: Royce White's NBA career is exactly eight minutes and fifty 487 00:34:43,675 --> 00:34:49,675 Speaker 1: five seconds longer than yours was, and you scored as 488 00:34:49,755 --> 00:34:53,835 Speaker 1: many points as he did. But our winner here is 489 00:34:53,955 --> 00:34:56,675 Speaker 1: Christy Nome the worst. It's hard to say what her 490 00:34:56,715 --> 00:34:59,715 Speaker 1: boast in her new book that she murdered her daughter's 491 00:34:59,715 --> 00:35:02,635 Speaker 1: puppy because she failed to train it properly. What that's 492 00:35:02,675 --> 00:35:05,595 Speaker 1: done to her political career. We know what it has 493 00:35:05,635 --> 00:35:08,635 Speaker 1: done to with the book. In its first week, with 494 00:35:08,715 --> 00:35:12,115 Speaker 1: all the pre sales and the bulk book orders coming through, 495 00:35:12,355 --> 00:35:17,195 Speaker 1: Christy Nomes No Going Back. Good call on the title. 496 00:35:17,595 --> 00:35:21,035 Speaker 1: No Going Back sold twenty one nine hundred and eighty 497 00:35:21,035 --> 00:35:24,275 Speaker 1: one copies in this country. Pretty good in fact, about 498 00:35:24,315 --> 00:35:27,835 Speaker 1: average for right wing in doctrination books. Week two, with 499 00:35:28,035 --> 00:35:30,755 Speaker 1: news of the murder and the disastrous book tour just 500 00:35:30,795 --> 00:35:33,915 Speaker 1: beginning to sync in nearly a fifty percent drop off. 501 00:35:33,995 --> 00:35:38,355 Speaker 1: Nomes sold eleven thousand copies in week two, Week three, 502 00:35:38,395 --> 00:35:40,915 Speaker 1: Make or Break Week for any book, May nineteenth through 503 00:35:40,915 --> 00:35:43,795 Speaker 1: May twenty fifth. Christy Nomes book that she might as 504 00:35:43,835 --> 00:35:47,675 Speaker 1: well have renamed it, I Kill Puppies. Christy Nomes Books 505 00:35:47,755 --> 00:35:53,475 Speaker 1: sold nationwide in a week two hundred and thirty seven copies, 506 00:35:54,515 --> 00:35:58,435 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven, two three and a seven, 507 00:36:00,235 --> 00:36:03,195 Speaker 1: nearly twenty two thousand copies in week one, two hundred 508 00:36:03,195 --> 00:36:06,715 Speaker 1: and thirty seven in week three. As one editor put it, 509 00:36:06,715 --> 00:36:09,075 Speaker 1: it's the most dramatic drop off in sales he's seen 510 00:36:09,155 --> 00:36:12,235 Speaker 1: in thirty years in the business. And if you want 511 00:36:12,435 --> 00:36:15,635 Speaker 1: the jaw dropping statistic to go at that assertion, that 512 00:36:15,755 --> 00:36:18,875 Speaker 1: drop off from week one sales to week three sales 513 00:36:19,595 --> 00:36:24,195 Speaker 1: is a mere nine two hundred and seventy five percent. 514 00:36:25,675 --> 00:36:27,515 Speaker 1: And we don't even know what the totals are for 515 00:36:27,795 --> 00:36:31,795 Speaker 1: returns of people who bought the book and said I 516 00:36:31,795 --> 00:36:35,595 Speaker 1: don't want it in my house. Christy, Hey, what about 517 00:36:35,595 --> 00:36:38,675 Speaker 1: those movie rights? Have you sold the movie rights yet? 518 00:36:38,875 --> 00:37:02,795 Speaker 1: Gnome two days worst author and Lord to the master 519 00:37:03,115 --> 00:37:06,115 Speaker 1: the work of James Thurber. There is a short film 520 00:37:06,355 --> 00:37:09,835 Speaker 1: of this story. I don't think it really does it justice. 521 00:37:09,915 --> 00:37:13,435 Speaker 1: I don't think anything does it justice. Occasionally, real life 522 00:37:13,515 --> 00:37:17,115 Speaker 1: does do it justice. I've thought I've seen this story 523 00:37:17,155 --> 00:37:20,755 Speaker 1: playing out in real time in this country almost every 524 00:37:20,875 --> 00:37:27,235 Speaker 1: day for about seven years. Sit back and relax, if 525 00:37:27,315 --> 00:37:31,435 Speaker 1: relax is the right word for it. For the Greatest 526 00:37:31,595 --> 00:37:37,995 Speaker 1: Man in the World by James Thurber. Looking back on 527 00:37:38,075 --> 00:37:40,835 Speaker 1: it now from the vantage point of nineteen forty one 528 00:37:40,875 --> 00:37:43,435 Speaker 1: can only marvel that it had not happened. Long before 529 00:37:43,435 --> 00:37:46,955 Speaker 1: it did. The United States of America had been ever 530 00:37:47,035 --> 00:37:52,075 Speaker 1: since Kitty Hawk blindly constructing the elaborate petard by which, 531 00:37:52,155 --> 00:37:57,755 Speaker 1: sooner or later it must be hoist. It was inevitable 532 00:37:57,755 --> 00:37:59,995 Speaker 1: that someday there would come, roaring out of the skies 533 00:38:00,435 --> 00:38:05,155 Speaker 1: a national hero of insufficient intelligence background, and characters tesfully 534 00:38:05,235 --> 00:38:08,555 Speaker 1: to endure the mounting orgies of glory, prepared for aviators 535 00:38:08,915 --> 00:38:12,075 Speaker 1: who stayed up for a long time or flew a 536 00:38:12,115 --> 00:38:17,595 Speaker 1: great distance. Both Lindbergh and Byrd, fortunately for national decorum 537 00:38:17,635 --> 00:38:21,795 Speaker 1: and international amity, had been gentlemen, So had our other 538 00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:26,395 Speaker 1: famous aviators. They wore their laurels gracefully, withstood the awful 539 00:38:26,395 --> 00:38:30,795 Speaker 1: weather of publicity, married excellent women, usually fine family and 540 00:38:30,915 --> 00:38:33,835 Speaker 1: quietly retired to private life and the enjoyment of their 541 00:38:33,915 --> 00:38:39,835 Speaker 1: varying fortunes. No untoward incidents on a worldwide scale marred 542 00:38:39,875 --> 00:38:42,875 Speaker 1: the perfection of their conduct on the perilous heights of fame. 543 00:38:44,275 --> 00:38:49,355 Speaker 1: The exception to the rule was, however, bound to occur, 544 00:38:50,195 --> 00:38:53,835 Speaker 1: and it did in July nineteen thirty seven, when Jack 545 00:38:54,595 --> 00:39:00,875 Speaker 1: Pal Smirch erstwhile mechanics helper in a small garage in Westfield, Iowa, 546 00:39:01,235 --> 00:39:05,475 Speaker 1: flew a second hand single motored Brest Haven the Dragonfly 547 00:39:05,675 --> 00:39:10,795 Speaker 1: three monoplane all the way around the world without stopping. 548 00:39:13,675 --> 00:39:15,995 Speaker 1: Never before in the history of aviation had such a 549 00:39:15,995 --> 00:39:19,235 Speaker 1: flight as Smirches even been dreamed of. No one had 550 00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:23,995 Speaker 1: even taken seriously the weird floating auxiliary gas tanks invention 551 00:39:24,075 --> 00:39:28,195 Speaker 1: of the mad New Hampshire professor of astronomy, doctor Charles Lewis, Gresham, 552 00:39:28,515 --> 00:39:32,915 Speaker 1: upon which Smirch placed full reliance. When the garage worker, 553 00:39:33,235 --> 00:39:37,755 Speaker 1: a slightly built, surly unprepossessing young men of twenty two, 554 00:39:38,075 --> 00:39:41,355 Speaker 1: appeared at Roosevelt Field early in July nineteen thirty seven, 555 00:39:41,955 --> 00:39:46,555 Speaker 1: slowly chewing a great quid of scrap tobacco and announced, 556 00:39:47,115 --> 00:39:51,635 Speaker 1: nobody ain't seen no flying yet. The newspapers touched briefly 557 00:39:51,755 --> 00:39:56,235 Speaker 1: and satirically upon his projected twenty five thousand mile flight. 558 00:39:57,035 --> 00:40:01,475 Speaker 1: Aeronautical and automotive experts dismissed the idea, curtly, implying that 559 00:40:01,515 --> 00:40:04,715 Speaker 1: it was a hoax, the publicity stunt. The rusty, the 560 00:40:05,075 --> 00:40:11,515 Speaker 1: battered second hand plane wouldn't go, The Gresham auxiliary tanks 561 00:40:11,875 --> 00:40:19,915 Speaker 1: wouldn't work. It was simply a cheap joke smirch. However, 562 00:40:20,195 --> 00:40:22,755 Speaker 1: after calling on a girl in Brooklyn who worked in 563 00:40:22,795 --> 00:40:26,195 Speaker 1: the flap folding department of a large paper box factory, 564 00:40:26,235 --> 00:40:29,795 Speaker 1: a girl whom he later described as his sweet Petuti 565 00:40:30,595 --> 00:40:35,435 Speaker 1: climbed nonchalantly into his ridiculous plane at dawn the memorable 566 00:40:35,475 --> 00:40:39,155 Speaker 1: seventh of July nineteen thirty seven, spit a curve of 567 00:40:39,235 --> 00:40:42,715 Speaker 1: tobacco juice into the still air, and took off, carrying 568 00:40:42,795 --> 00:40:46,355 Speaker 1: with him only a gallon of bootleg gin and six 569 00:40:46,635 --> 00:40:52,355 Speaker 1: pounds of salami. When the garage boy thundered out over 570 00:40:52,355 --> 00:40:54,755 Speaker 1: the ocean, the papers were forced to record in all 571 00:40:54,875 --> 00:40:58,755 Speaker 1: seriousness that a mad, unknown young man his name was 572 00:40:58,835 --> 00:41:03,675 Speaker 1: variously misspelled, had actually set out upon a preposterous attempt 573 00:41:03,715 --> 00:41:07,035 Speaker 1: to span the world in a rickety one engine contraption, 574 00:41:07,395 --> 00:41:11,435 Speaker 1: trusting to the long distance refueling device of a crazy schoolmaster. 575 00:41:12,275 --> 00:41:16,115 Speaker 1: When nine days later, without having stopped once, the tiny 576 00:41:16,155 --> 00:41:19,675 Speaker 1: plane appeared above San Francisco Bay, headed for New York, 577 00:41:19,755 --> 00:41:23,115 Speaker 1: spluttering and choking, to be sure, but still magnificently and 578 00:41:23,195 --> 00:41:27,595 Speaker 1: miraculously aloft the headlines which long since had crowded everything 579 00:41:27,635 --> 00:41:30,235 Speaker 1: else off the front page. Even the shooting of the 580 00:41:30,275 --> 00:41:35,275 Speaker 1: Governor of Illinois by the Valetti Gang swelled to unprecedented size, 581 00:41:35,595 --> 00:41:38,195 Speaker 1: and the news stories began to run to twenty five 582 00:41:38,475 --> 00:41:45,795 Speaker 1: and thirty columns. It was noticeable, however, that the accounts 583 00:41:45,955 --> 00:41:50,035 Speaker 1: of the epoch making flight touched rather lightly upon the 584 00:41:50,115 --> 00:41:54,915 Speaker 1: aviator himself. This was not because the facts about the 585 00:41:54,955 --> 00:41:58,715 Speaker 1: hero as a man were too meager, but because they 586 00:41:58,715 --> 00:42:03,275 Speaker 1: were too complete. Reporters who had been rushed out to 587 00:42:03,355 --> 00:42:06,515 Speaker 1: Iowa when smirches Play was first sighted over the little 588 00:42:06,555 --> 00:42:09,675 Speaker 1: French coast town of Serlee Lemaire to dig up the 589 00:42:09,675 --> 00:42:13,235 Speaker 1: story of the great man's life, had promptly discovered that 590 00:42:13,315 --> 00:42:16,715 Speaker 1: the story of his life could not be printed. His mother, 591 00:42:17,155 --> 00:42:20,035 Speaker 1: a sullen short order cook, and a shack restaurant on 592 00:42:20,075 --> 00:42:23,155 Speaker 1: the edge of a tourists camping ground near Westfield, met 593 00:42:23,195 --> 00:42:25,995 Speaker 1: all inquiries as to her son with an angry and 594 00:42:26,155 --> 00:42:29,835 Speaker 1: the hell with him a hope he drowns. His father 595 00:42:29,915 --> 00:42:33,715 Speaker 1: appeared to be in jail somewhere for stealing spotlights and 596 00:42:33,915 --> 00:42:38,315 Speaker 1: lap robes from tourists automobiles. His young brother, a weak 597 00:42:38,395 --> 00:42:42,635 Speaker 1: minded lad, had but recently escaped from the Preston, Iowa Reformatory, 598 00:42:42,675 --> 00:42:45,395 Speaker 1: and was already wanted in several Western towns for the 599 00:42:45,395 --> 00:42:49,875 Speaker 1: theft of money order blanks from post offices. These alarming 600 00:42:49,955 --> 00:42:52,875 Speaker 1: discoveries were still piling up at the very time that 601 00:42:52,995 --> 00:42:57,475 Speaker 1: pal Smirch, the greatest hero of the twentieth century, blear eyed, 602 00:42:57,915 --> 00:43:01,955 Speaker 1: dead for sleep, half starved, was piloting his crazy junk 603 00:43:02,035 --> 00:43:04,595 Speaker 1: heap high above the region in which the lamentable story 604 00:43:04,675 --> 00:43:07,475 Speaker 1: of his private life was being unearthed, headed for New 605 00:43:07,555 --> 00:43:10,315 Speaker 1: York and a greater glory than any man of his 606 00:43:10,515 --> 00:43:17,915 Speaker 1: time had ever known. The necessity for printing some account 607 00:43:18,035 --> 00:43:21,075 Speaker 1: in the papers of the young man's career and personality 608 00:43:21,115 --> 00:43:24,155 Speaker 1: had led to a remarkable predicament. It was, of course, 609 00:43:24,195 --> 00:43:28,675 Speaker 1: impossible to reveal the facts for a tremendous popular feeling 610 00:43:28,715 --> 00:43:31,115 Speaker 1: in favor of the young hero had sprung up like 611 00:43:31,155 --> 00:43:34,115 Speaker 1: a grass fire when he was halfway across Europe on 612 00:43:34,155 --> 00:43:37,475 Speaker 1: his flight around the globe. He was therefore described as 613 00:43:37,515 --> 00:43:43,355 Speaker 1: a modest, chap taciturn blonde, popular with his friends, popular 614 00:43:43,395 --> 00:43:47,835 Speaker 1: with girls. The only available snapshot of Smirch, taken at 615 00:43:47,875 --> 00:43:50,555 Speaker 1: the wheel of a phony automobile in a cheap photo 616 00:43:50,595 --> 00:43:53,555 Speaker 1: studio at an amusement park, was touched up so that 617 00:43:53,595 --> 00:43:59,035 Speaker 1: the little vulgarian looked quite handsome. His twisted leer was 618 00:43:59,115 --> 00:44:03,035 Speaker 1: smoothed into a pleasant smile. The truth was in this 619 00:44:03,115 --> 00:44:06,635 Speaker 1: way kept from the youth's static compatriots. They did not 620 00:44:06,875 --> 00:44:11,035 Speaker 1: dream that the Smirch family was despised and feared by 621 00:44:11,035 --> 00:44:13,795 Speaker 1: its neighbors in the obscure Iowa town, nor that the 622 00:44:13,835 --> 00:44:18,395 Speaker 1: hero himself, because of numerous unsavory exploits, had come to 623 00:44:18,435 --> 00:44:21,675 Speaker 1: be regarded in Westfield as a nuisance and a menace. 624 00:44:23,315 --> 00:44:27,395 Speaker 1: Pal's Smirch had, the reporters discovered, once knife the principle 625 00:44:27,395 --> 00:44:30,435 Speaker 1: of his high school, not mortally, to be sure, but 626 00:44:30,475 --> 00:44:34,235 Speaker 1: he had knifed him, and on another occasion, surprised in 627 00:44:34,315 --> 00:44:37,875 Speaker 1: the act of an stealing altar cloth from a church, 628 00:44:38,275 --> 00:44:40,835 Speaker 1: he had bashed the sexton over the head with a 629 00:44:40,875 --> 00:44:45,555 Speaker 1: pot of Easter lilies. For each of these offenses, he 630 00:44:45,595 --> 00:44:50,795 Speaker 1: had served a sentence in the reformatory. Inwardly, the authorities, 631 00:44:50,795 --> 00:44:53,155 Speaker 1: both in New York and in Washington, prayed that an 632 00:44:53,275 --> 00:44:58,915 Speaker 1: understanding providence might, however awful, such a thing seemed, bring 633 00:44:59,075 --> 00:45:02,755 Speaker 1: disaster to the rusty, battered plane and its illustrious pilot, 634 00:45:02,835 --> 00:45:06,195 Speaker 1: whose unheard of flight had a rid the civilized world 635 00:45:06,235 --> 00:45:10,955 Speaker 1: to hosannas of hysterical praise. The authorities were convinced that 636 00:45:11,035 --> 00:45:14,195 Speaker 1: the character of the renowned aviator was such that the 637 00:45:14,235 --> 00:45:17,875 Speaker 1: limelight of adulation was bound to reveal him to all 638 00:45:18,035 --> 00:45:23,635 Speaker 1: the world as a congenital hooligan, mentally and morally unequipped 639 00:45:23,675 --> 00:45:28,515 Speaker 1: to cope with his own prodigious fame. I trust, said 640 00:45:28,515 --> 00:45:30,875 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State, at one of the many secret 641 00:45:30,915 --> 00:45:35,035 Speaker 1: cabinet meetings called to consider the national dilemma. I trust 642 00:45:35,715 --> 00:45:40,395 Speaker 1: that his mother's prayer will be answered, by which he 643 00:45:40,475 --> 00:45:43,515 Speaker 1: referred to missus Emma's Smirch's wish that her son might 644 00:45:43,555 --> 00:45:48,315 Speaker 1: be drowned. It was, however, too late for that. Smirch 645 00:45:48,395 --> 00:45:50,675 Speaker 1: had leaped the Atlantic and then the Pacific as if 646 00:45:50,675 --> 00:45:53,915 Speaker 1: they were mill ponds. At three minutes after two o'clock 647 00:45:53,915 --> 00:45:56,955 Speaker 1: on the afternoon of July seventeenth, nineteen thirty seven, the 648 00:45:56,995 --> 00:46:00,795 Speaker 1: garage boy brought his idiotic plane into Roosevelt Field for 649 00:46:00,835 --> 00:46:06,355 Speaker 1: a perfect three point landing. It had, of course been 650 00:46:06,435 --> 00:46:09,235 Speaker 1: out of the question to arrange a modest little reception 651 00:46:09,355 --> 00:46:11,835 Speaker 1: for the greatest flier in the history of the world. 652 00:46:12,075 --> 00:46:14,995 Speaker 1: He was received at Roosevelt Field with such elaborate and 653 00:46:15,035 --> 00:46:20,755 Speaker 1: pretentious ceremonies as rocked the world. Fortunately, however, the warren 654 00:46:20,835 --> 00:46:24,955 Speaker 1: and spent hero promptly swooned, had to be removed bodily 655 00:46:24,995 --> 00:46:27,435 Speaker 1: from his plane, and was spirited from the field without 656 00:46:27,475 --> 00:46:31,195 Speaker 1: having opened his mouth once. Thus he did not jeopardize 657 00:46:31,235 --> 00:46:35,635 Speaker 1: the dignity of his first reception, a reception illumined by 658 00:46:35,675 --> 00:46:38,355 Speaker 1: the presence of the Secretaries of War and the Navy, 659 00:46:38,555 --> 00:46:41,955 Speaker 1: Mayor Michael J. Moriarty of New York, the Premier of Canada, 660 00:46:42,155 --> 00:46:45,635 Speaker 1: Governors Fanamine Groves, mcpheey and Critchfield, and a brilliant array 661 00:46:45,675 --> 00:46:50,475 Speaker 1: of European diplomats. Smirch did not, in fact come too 662 00:46:50,595 --> 00:46:53,355 Speaker 1: in time to take part in the gigantic hullabaloo arranged 663 00:46:53,395 --> 00:46:55,995 Speaker 1: at city Hall for the next day. He was rushed 664 00:46:56,035 --> 00:47:00,435 Speaker 1: to a secluded nursing home and confined in bed. It 665 00:47:00,515 --> 00:47:03,035 Speaker 1: was nine days before he was able to get up, or, 666 00:47:03,115 --> 00:47:09,075 Speaker 1: to be more exact, before he was permitted to get up. Meanwhile, 667 00:47:09,115 --> 00:47:11,795 Speaker 1: the greatest minds in the country in solemn assembly, had 668 00:47:11,875 --> 00:47:16,115 Speaker 1: arranged a secret conference of city, state and government officials, 669 00:47:16,155 --> 00:47:19,435 Speaker 1: which Smirch was to attend for the purpose of being 670 00:47:19,475 --> 00:47:26,275 Speaker 1: instructed in the ethics and behavior of heroism. On the 671 00:47:26,355 --> 00:47:28,675 Speaker 1: day that the little mechanic was finally allowed to get 672 00:47:28,715 --> 00:47:30,755 Speaker 1: up in dress and for the first time in two weeks, 673 00:47:30,795 --> 00:47:33,395 Speaker 1: took a great chew of tomacco, he was permitted to 674 00:47:33,435 --> 00:47:37,475 Speaker 1: receive the newspaper men this by way of testing him out. 675 00:47:38,675 --> 00:47:42,675 Speaker 1: Smirch did not wait for questions. Use guys, he said, 676 00:47:43,315 --> 00:47:46,915 Speaker 1: and the Times man winced. Use guys can tell the 677 00:47:46,995 --> 00:47:49,915 Speaker 1: cock eyed world that I put it over on Lindberg. 678 00:47:50,035 --> 00:47:56,515 Speaker 1: See yeah, made an assaid, I'm two frogs. The two frogs. 679 00:47:57,155 --> 00:48:00,795 Speaker 1: It was a reference to a pair of gallant French flyers, who, 680 00:48:00,875 --> 00:48:03,475 Speaker 1: in attempting to flight only halfway round the world, had 681 00:48:03,475 --> 00:48:07,475 Speaker 1: two weeks before unhappily been lost at sea. The Times 682 00:48:07,555 --> 00:48:09,835 Speaker 1: Man was bold enough at this point to sketch out 683 00:48:09,835 --> 00:48:13,555 Speaker 1: for Smirch the accepted formula for interviews in cases of 684 00:48:13,595 --> 00:48:16,715 Speaker 1: this kind. He explained that there should be no arrogant 685 00:48:16,795 --> 00:48:21,395 Speaker 1: statements belittling the achievements of other heroes, particularly heroes of 686 00:48:21,515 --> 00:48:26,035 Speaker 1: foreign nations. Ah, the hell with that, said Smirch. I 687 00:48:26,115 --> 00:48:29,435 Speaker 1: did it. See I did it, and I'm talking about it, 688 00:48:30,835 --> 00:48:34,875 Speaker 1: and he did talk about it. None of this extraordinary 689 00:48:34,915 --> 00:48:39,195 Speaker 1: interview was, of course printed. On the contrary, the newspapers, 690 00:48:39,235 --> 00:48:42,435 Speaker 1: already under the discipline direction of a secret directorate created 691 00:48:42,435 --> 00:48:46,035 Speaker 1: for the occasion and composed of statesmen and editors, gave 692 00:48:46,075 --> 00:48:49,715 Speaker 1: out to a panting and restless world that Jackie, as 693 00:48:49,715 --> 00:48:53,355 Speaker 1: he had been arbitrarily nicknamed, would consent to say only 694 00:48:53,395 --> 00:48:56,635 Speaker 1: that he was very happy, and that anyone could have 695 00:48:56,675 --> 00:49:00,115 Speaker 1: done what he did. My achievement has been I fear 696 00:49:00,475 --> 00:49:04,395 Speaker 1: slightly exaggerated. The Times Man's article had him protest with 697 00:49:04,435 --> 00:49:08,475 Speaker 1: a mind modest smile. These newspaper stories were kept from 698 00:49:08,515 --> 00:49:11,755 Speaker 1: the hero, a restriction which did not serve to abate 699 00:49:11,835 --> 00:49:16,715 Speaker 1: the rising malevolence of his temper. The situation was indeed 700 00:49:16,915 --> 00:49:22,355 Speaker 1: extremely grave. For Palell. Smirch was as he kept insisting, 701 00:49:22,795 --> 00:49:26,595 Speaker 1: raring to go, he could not much longer be kept 702 00:49:26,635 --> 00:49:29,475 Speaker 1: from a nation clamorous to lionize him. It was the 703 00:49:29,475 --> 00:49:32,835 Speaker 1: most desperate crisis the United States of America had faced 704 00:49:32,835 --> 00:49:38,715 Speaker 1: since the sinking of Belusitania. On the afternoon of the 705 00:49:38,755 --> 00:49:42,035 Speaker 1: twenty seventh of July, Smirch was spirited away to a 706 00:49:42,075 --> 00:49:47,195 Speaker 1: conference room in which were gathered mayors, governors, government officials, behaviorist, psychologists, 707 00:49:47,235 --> 00:49:51,195 Speaker 1: and editors. He gave them each a limp moist paw, 708 00:49:51,675 --> 00:49:58,115 Speaker 1: and a brief, unlovely grin, hi, he said. When Smirch 709 00:49:58,195 --> 00:50:00,275 Speaker 1: was seated, the Mayor of New York arose, and, with 710 00:50:00,355 --> 00:50:04,115 Speaker 1: obvious pessimism, attempted to explain what he must say and 711 00:50:04,155 --> 00:50:07,675 Speaker 1: how he must act when presented to the world, ending 712 00:50:07,715 --> 00:50:10,195 Speaker 1: his talk with a high tribute to the hero's courage 713 00:50:10,195 --> 00:50:13,435 Speaker 1: and integrity. The mayor was followed by Governor Fannaman of 714 00:50:13,475 --> 00:50:17,075 Speaker 1: New York, who, after a touching declaration of faith, introduced 715 00:50:17,355 --> 00:50:21,515 Speaker 1: Cameron Spottiswood, second Secretary of the American Embassy in Paris, 716 00:50:21,635 --> 00:50:25,635 Speaker 1: the gentleman selected to coach Smirch in the amenities of 717 00:50:25,675 --> 00:50:30,715 Speaker 1: public ceremonies. Sitting in a chair with a soiled yellow 718 00:50:30,755 --> 00:50:33,995 Speaker 1: tie in his hand and his shirt open at the throat, unshaved, 719 00:50:34,475 --> 00:50:38,755 Speaker 1: smoking a rolled cigarette. Jack Smirch listened with a leer 720 00:50:38,915 --> 00:50:42,835 Speaker 1: on his lips. I get you, I get you, He 721 00:50:42,915 --> 00:50:46,995 Speaker 1: cut in nastily. You want me to act like a softie. Huh? 722 00:50:47,235 --> 00:50:51,115 Speaker 1: You want me to act like that? Memeny, mmany baby face, 723 00:50:51,195 --> 00:50:55,795 Speaker 1: lind big huh, Well nuts to that. See. Everyone took 724 00:50:55,835 --> 00:50:59,995 Speaker 1: in his breath sharply. It was a sigh and a hiss. 725 00:51:00,875 --> 00:51:05,835 Speaker 1: Mister Lindbergh began a United States senator with rage, and 726 00:51:05,995 --> 00:51:10,635 Speaker 1: mister bird Smirch, who was paring his nails with a jackknife, 727 00:51:10,635 --> 00:51:14,435 Speaker 1: cut in again. Boyd, he exclaimed, Oh, for God's sake, 728 00:51:14,755 --> 00:51:18,515 Speaker 1: that big somebody shut off the blasphemies with a sharp word. 729 00:51:18,675 --> 00:51:22,315 Speaker 1: A newcomer had entered the word the room. Everyone stood up, 730 00:51:22,315 --> 00:51:25,155 Speaker 1: except Smirch, who was still busy with his nails, and 731 00:51:25,195 --> 00:51:28,915 Speaker 1: he did not even glance up. Mister Smirch, said someone sternly. 732 00:51:29,075 --> 00:51:32,555 Speaker 1: The President of the United States. It had been thought 733 00:51:32,555 --> 00:51:34,955 Speaker 1: that the presence of the Chief Executive might have a 734 00:51:35,075 --> 00:51:38,115 Speaker 1: chastening effect on the young hero, and the former had 735 00:51:38,155 --> 00:51:41,635 Speaker 1: been thanks to the remarkable cooperation of the press secretly 736 00:51:41,675 --> 00:51:49,795 Speaker 1: brought to the obscure conference room. A great, painful silence fell. 737 00:51:51,115 --> 00:51:56,835 Speaker 1: Smirch looked up, waved a hand at the president. How 738 00:51:56,955 --> 00:52:04,275 Speaker 1: you coming, he asked, and began rolling a fresh cigarette. 739 00:52:04,475 --> 00:52:12,595 Speaker 1: The silence deepened. Someone coughed in a strained way. Jesuits hot, 740 00:52:12,635 --> 00:52:18,155 Speaker 1: ain't it, said Smirch. He loosened two more shirt buttons, 741 00:52:18,195 --> 00:52:22,915 Speaker 1: revealing a hairy chest and the tattooed word sadie enclosed 742 00:52:22,955 --> 00:52:27,395 Speaker 1: in a stenciled heart. The great and important men in 743 00:52:27,435 --> 00:52:31,115 Speaker 1: the room, faced by the most serious crisis in American history, 744 00:52:31,635 --> 00:52:36,355 Speaker 1: exchanged worried frowns. Nobody seemed to know how to proceed. 745 00:52:36,955 --> 00:52:40,315 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, said Smirch. Let's get the hell 746 00:52:40,315 --> 00:52:42,715 Speaker 1: out of here. Why do I start cutting in on 747 00:52:42,795 --> 00:52:47,315 Speaker 1: the podies? Eh? And when is there gonna be this 748 00:52:47,795 --> 00:52:52,715 Speaker 1: in it? He rubbed a thumb and forefinger together meaningly. Money, 749 00:52:53,395 --> 00:52:58,715 Speaker 1: exclaimed a state senator, shocked pale, Yeah money, said pal, 750 00:52:58,995 --> 00:53:02,675 Speaker 1: flipping his cigarette out of the window. And big money. 751 00:53:02,835 --> 00:53:07,675 Speaker 1: He began rolling a fresh cigarette. Big money, he repeated, 752 00:53:08,115 --> 00:53:11,275 Speaker 1: Frowning over the rice paper. He tilted back in his 753 00:53:11,435 --> 00:53:15,435 Speaker 1: chair and leered at each gentleman separately. The leer of 754 00:53:15,475 --> 00:53:18,915 Speaker 1: an animal that knows its power, the leer of a 755 00:53:18,995 --> 00:53:23,235 Speaker 1: leopard loose in a bird and dog shop. Ah, for 756 00:53:23,355 --> 00:53:26,835 Speaker 1: God's sake, let's get someplace where it's cool, he said. 757 00:53:27,395 --> 00:53:31,755 Speaker 1: I've been cooped up plenty for three weeks. Smirch stood 758 00:53:31,835 --> 00:53:34,475 Speaker 1: up and walked over to an open window, where he 759 00:53:34,475 --> 00:53:39,155 Speaker 1: stood staring down into the street nine floors below. The 760 00:53:39,195 --> 00:53:42,835 Speaker 1: faint shouting of newsboys floated up to him. He made 761 00:53:42,835 --> 00:53:47,595 Speaker 1: out his name, hot Dog, he cried, grinning ecstatic. He 762 00:53:47,755 --> 00:53:52,555 Speaker 1: leaned out over the sill. You tell um babies, he 763 00:53:52,635 --> 00:53:57,595 Speaker 1: shouted down, Hot Diggity Dog. In the tense little knot 764 00:53:57,595 --> 00:54:01,635 Speaker 1: of men standing behind him, a quick, mad impulse flared up. 765 00:54:01,915 --> 00:54:05,675 Speaker 1: An unspoken word of a peal of manned seemed to 766 00:54:05,755 --> 00:54:09,475 Speaker 1: ring through the room, yet it was deadly silent. Charles K. 767 00:54:09,915 --> 00:54:12,435 Speaker 1: L Brand, secretary to the Mayor of New York City, 768 00:54:12,555 --> 00:54:16,075 Speaker 1: happened to be standing nearest Smirch. He looked inquiringly at 769 00:54:16,075 --> 00:54:20,435 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. The President pale grim, 770 00:54:20,635 --> 00:54:24,915 Speaker 1: nodded shortly. Brand, a tall, powerfully built man wants to 771 00:54:24,915 --> 00:54:29,395 Speaker 1: tackle at Rutgers University, stepped forward, seized the greatest man 772 00:54:29,435 --> 00:54:31,315 Speaker 1: in the world by his left shoulder and the seat 773 00:54:31,355 --> 00:54:35,035 Speaker 1: of his pants, and pushed him out the window. My god, 774 00:54:35,075 --> 00:54:38,195 Speaker 1: he's falling out the window, cried a quick witted editor. 775 00:54:38,275 --> 00:54:40,515 Speaker 1: Get me out of here, cried the president. Several men 776 00:54:40,555 --> 00:54:42,635 Speaker 1: sprang to his side, and he was hurriedly escorted out 777 00:54:42,675 --> 00:54:44,515 Speaker 1: of a door toward a side entrance of the building. 778 00:54:44,755 --> 00:54:47,315 Speaker 1: The editor of the Associated Press took charge, Being used 779 00:54:47,315 --> 00:54:50,075 Speaker 1: to such things crisply, he ordered certain men to leave, 780 00:54:50,275 --> 00:54:53,195 Speaker 1: others to stay. Quickly. He outlined a story which all 781 00:54:53,195 --> 00:54:55,595 Speaker 1: the papers were to agree on, sent two men to 782 00:54:55,635 --> 00:54:58,115 Speaker 1: the street to handle that end of the tragedy, commanded 783 00:54:58,155 --> 00:55:00,915 Speaker 1: a Senator to sob, and two congressmen to go to 784 00:55:00,955 --> 00:55:05,435 Speaker 1: pieces nervously. In a word, he skilled fully set the 785 00:55:05,515 --> 00:55:08,635 Speaker 1: stage for the gigantic task that was to follow, the 786 00:55:08,755 --> 00:55:12,675 Speaker 1: task of breaking to a grief stricken world. The sad 787 00:55:12,755 --> 00:55:17,955 Speaker 1: story of the untimely accidental death of its most illustrious 788 00:55:17,955 --> 00:55:24,595 Speaker 1: and spectacular figure. The funeral was, as you know, the 789 00:55:24,635 --> 00:55:29,675 Speaker 1: most elaborate, the finest, the solemnesst, and the saddest ever 790 00:55:29,715 --> 00:55:33,035 Speaker 1: held in the United States of America. The monument in 791 00:55:33,235 --> 00:55:37,475 Speaker 1: Arlington Cemetery, with its clean white shaft of marble and 792 00:55:37,595 --> 00:55:41,355 Speaker 1: the simple device of a tiny plane carved on its 793 00:55:41,395 --> 00:55:47,795 Speaker 1: base is a place for pilgrims in deep reverence to visit. 794 00:55:48,915 --> 00:55:51,995 Speaker 1: The nations of the world paid lofty tributes to Little 795 00:55:52,115 --> 00:55:58,475 Speaker 1: Jackie Smirch, America's greatest hero. At a given hour, there 796 00:55:58,475 --> 00:56:01,595 Speaker 1: were two minutes of silence throughout the nation. Even the 797 00:56:01,635 --> 00:56:06,435 Speaker 1: inhabitants of the small, bewildered town of Westfield, Iowa, observed 798 00:56:06,515 --> 00:56:10,275 Speaker 1: this touching ceremony. Agents of the Department of Justice sough 799 00:56:10,395 --> 00:56:14,515 Speaker 1: to that one of them was especially assigned to stand 800 00:56:14,555 --> 00:56:17,435 Speaker 1: grimly in the doorway of a little shack restaurant on 801 00:56:17,515 --> 00:56:23,075 Speaker 1: the edge of the tourist's camping ground just outside the town. There, 802 00:56:23,315 --> 00:56:28,075 Speaker 1: under his stern scrutiny, Missus Emma Smirch bowed her head 803 00:56:28,115 --> 00:56:31,955 Speaker 1: over to Hamburger steaks sizzling on her grill. Bowed her 804 00:56:31,995 --> 00:56:36,395 Speaker 1: head and turned away so that the secret serviceman could 805 00:56:36,475 --> 00:56:45,395 Speaker 1: not see the twisted, strangely familiar leer on her lips. 806 00:56:57,395 --> 00:57:01,715 Speaker 1: The Greatest Man in the World by James Thurber, How 807 00:57:01,715 --> 00:57:04,595 Speaker 1: could he have known? I've done all the damage I 808 00:57:04,555 --> 00:57:07,155 Speaker 1: can do here. Thank you for listening. Countdown. Musical directors 809 00:57:07,195 --> 00:57:10,675 Speaker 1: Brian Ray and John Phillip Chanel arranged, produced, and performed 810 00:57:10,715 --> 00:57:13,235 Speaker 1: most of our music. Mister Ray was on the guitars, 811 00:57:13,275 --> 00:57:16,195 Speaker 1: the bass in the drums. Mister Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. 812 00:57:16,395 --> 00:57:19,355 Speaker 1: It was produced by Tko Brothers. Other music, including some 813 00:57:19,395 --> 00:57:22,515 Speaker 1: of the Beethoven compositions, arranged and performed by the group 814 00:57:22,555 --> 00:57:26,075 Speaker 1: No Horns Allowed. Sports music is the Olderman theme from 815 00:57:26,315 --> 00:57:30,035 Speaker 1: ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis, courtesy of ESPN Inc. 816 00:57:30,435 --> 00:57:33,515 Speaker 1: Our satirical and pithy musical comments are by Nancy Fauss, 817 00:57:33,515 --> 00:57:36,635 Speaker 1: the best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was 818 00:57:36,675 --> 00:57:40,075 Speaker 1: my friend Stevie van Zacht, and everything else was pretty 819 00:57:40,155 --> 00:57:42,635 Speaker 1: much my fault. So that's countdown for this the one 820 00:57:42,715 --> 00:57:46,915 Speaker 1: hundred and sixtieth day until the twenty twenty four presidential election. 821 00:57:47,275 --> 00:57:51,955 Speaker 1: The two and forty first day since convicted fellon Donald 822 00:57:51,995 --> 00:57:55,675 Speaker 1: Trump's first attempt to coop against the democratically elected government 823 00:57:55,675 --> 00:57:59,475 Speaker 1: of the United States. Use the July eleventh sentencing hearing, 824 00:57:59,915 --> 00:58:03,875 Speaker 1: use the mental health system, use presidential immunity if it happens, 825 00:58:04,195 --> 00:58:08,595 Speaker 1: use the not regularly given elector objection option to stop 826 00:58:08,675 --> 00:58:15,715 Speaker 1: him from doing it again while we still can. The 827 00:58:15,795 --> 00:58:19,355 Speaker 1: next scheduled Countdown is Tuesday bulletins as the news warrants 828 00:58:19,515 --> 00:58:22,795 Speaker 1: till then, I'm Keith Ulreman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, 829 00:58:23,315 --> 00:58:34,595 Speaker 1: and good luck. Countdown with Keith Oulderman is a production 830 00:58:34,835 --> 00:58:40,115 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 831 00:58:40,235 --> 00:58:43,595 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.