WEBVTT - Gregg and Frank's Top-15 Running Back Rankings

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Network along sign Frankie Stanfell. I am Greg Sauceman. Greggy.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on man? Not much? Greggy? Pretty excited? Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know someone I was talking to you about downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>Getting me excited, not only as a Fantasy fan but

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<v Speaker 1>as a Jet fan of course, is the comments coming

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<v Speaker 1>out from Josh Norman about Sam Donald. I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>was great yesterday him talking of Sam Donald playing like

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<v Speaker 1>a veteran making all the great decisions already in training camp.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great to read. And then yesterday I caught up

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<v Speaker 1>on hard Knocks. I didn't catch the first episode last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I watched both of them last night. Stood

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<v Speaker 1>up entirely too late, but it was well worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>A sag. Listen, I love that. Okay, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I did not watch Hard Knocks last night

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<v Speaker 1>yet still the first episode I did. Bless him, list him,

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<v Speaker 1>Davis Landry, I got it or laundry? Um, yeah, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I I like the first episode. I gotta be honest

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<v Speaker 1>with you. It's what kind of boring they Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to like it, but I find myself every single

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<v Speaker 1>time I watched, no matter what time of day, I

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<v Speaker 1>wind it like falling asleep for part of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had to rewind it every time. I watched every

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<v Speaker 1>season and listen to a lot of it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I come home from work before Judy gets

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<v Speaker 1>home and the perfect time to watch, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably tired, it was. It was a long day,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, so that's one of the problems. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I watched it. So the first episode I watched it

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<v Speaker 1>when I woke up on like Umi st anymore. I

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<v Speaker 1>woke up and it was before our draft. So I

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<v Speaker 1>watched Hard Knocks. I find myself. I guess I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>falling asleep, but I was like sitting on my phone

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<v Speaker 1>like on Twitter. Really, it just it just doesn't captivate,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't captivate me like Jarvis Landry speech did in that

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<v Speaker 1>first episode, but like not the whole show. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to like it. I watched every year. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>think it had the opposite effect on me. Actually, eleven

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<v Speaker 1>PM I put on the first episode and I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that was really good. I want to watch the second one.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just ended up watching bold episodes and then

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<v Speaker 1>I went to sleep after that. But it's pretty good man.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, while you know, you feel bad for

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Jackson everything that he's going through the whole like

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<v Speaker 1>him versus Todd Haley thing like you would think, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Jackson, you're one in thirty one in your last

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<v Speaker 1>thirty two games, maybe you should take some advice from

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Haley. You know, don't be don't try to be

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than you are. I mean, Todd Haley just came

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<v Speaker 1>from the Steelers. He knows what a successful organization he

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<v Speaker 1>is when he's come from successful organizations in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>so he knows what works. Greg Williams also the coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the Chiefs and was maniacal and ran a program

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground and they he was he was crazy. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>That dude was wild. And Casey oh yeah, and he

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much got driven out of the Steelers because they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like him there either. But look, say what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to I'm not disputing that at all. But in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of football acumen, yeah, he had Antonio Brown and

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<v Speaker 1>Levy on Bell, but he got the he got the

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<v Speaker 1>most out of those guys. You're in a year out,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Um, on the program today, we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>into running back rankings, your tears, your debate, your sleepers,

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<v Speaker 1>your bus, all that good stuff we did without the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks yesterday. If enjoyed the program, make sure you check

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<v Speaker 1>that out. Frankie on Monday also came out with a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new white Boards series video. Pick number five, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>pick number five. We pick number three is up next? Correct,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just pick eight, Okay, So the little change

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<v Speaker 1>of plans there, Pick eight will come up next. Pick

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<v Speaker 1>three on the way later this week, we can assume, sir. Okay. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So with that all being said, I want to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the running backs. Before we do. We begin with

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<v Speaker 1>the stat of the debt, and I'm pretty excited about

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Greggy. I want to make this clear that

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<v Speaker 1>Frank goes to me earlier, I have a great stat

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, like all right, awesome, what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And then he goes, well, it's about the Vikings, all right, cool?

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<v Speaker 1>Well what is it? Oh, you have to say just

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<v Speaker 1>for the show? Why are you? It's a teaser off

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<v Speaker 1>their It's literally just a teaser for me, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like to tease your best friends a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way she teasers for first playoff game tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>how's that going. Did you guys finish? Oh? Well, interdivision?

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<v Speaker 1>Inter division? So yeah, with the one seed on so

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs start tonight, would pay the bow socks of

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<v Speaker 1>this kickball. I would say that we were the one

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<v Speaker 1>seed on our side of the bracket. Um, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be easy. And then of the confidence and then

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<v Speaker 1>next week it really begins. I think lots of lots

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<v Speaker 1>of bunts being dropped by Greggy tonight. Yeah, they expected

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<v Speaker 1>to after the first two I dropped last time. They

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<v Speaker 1>were like's gonna bunt? And like yeah, and did you

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<v Speaker 1>still successfully bunt for a hit. Yeah, that's embarrassing for them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna putting the right spot. Man. Wait, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you bunt and then they know what's coming, what what's

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<v Speaker 1>your counter to that? Do you just like pop it

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<v Speaker 1>over the third base and then I'm too nervous to

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<v Speaker 1>do that because I think I'll pop it up if

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<v Speaker 1>I try to do that. So in kickball and the league,

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<v Speaker 1>we plan that you have your pictures man, like right here,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say you have your pictures mound right in the middle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on the sides, like right right to the

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<v Speaker 1>right side and to the left side, there's cones and

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<v Speaker 1>you can't and the third basement or the let's say

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<v Speaker 1>first basement approaching in can't go past those cones after

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<v Speaker 1>the ball is hit. Why does mean? Because if the

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<v Speaker 1>possible to a bunt for a hit, and it also

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be a thing anyway, Greg, Well, it's also impossible

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<v Speaker 1>to do some other things. All right, Greg, I trust,

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<v Speaker 1>I trust you and your your kickball, your kickball skill

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<v Speaker 1>out the day tomorrow will be my my batting line tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Frank. So, after Dalvin Cook's injury, starting

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<v Speaker 1>in week five, Latin Murray and Jerick McKinnon combined for

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<v Speaker 1>three hundred and forty two carries in fifty six receptions

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<v Speaker 1>in twelve games. That's twenty eight and a half carries

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<v Speaker 1>four point six receptions per game combined between Lithavias Murray

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerk McKinnon per game last year for the Vikings offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know they don't have Pat Sherber anymore, but

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<v Speaker 1>um we still, you know, we we like a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the pieces that are still involved with this Vikings offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just think this is very reassuring for Dalvin

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<v Speaker 1>Cook owners, for people who you know, are expecting to

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<v Speaker 1>draft him. Even Latavious Murray's involved, even if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>eight to ten touches per game. I mean, these these

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<v Speaker 1>guys were combining for over thirty two touches a game, Greg,

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<v Speaker 1>So I just thought that was insane for only in

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<v Speaker 1>twelve games carries fifty six receptions. What is their offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line rank rank? Well, that's not very good, which I

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<v Speaker 1>also brought up to you downstairs. Um, they lost a

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<v Speaker 1>few pieces on the offensive line. PFF currently ranks him

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<v Speaker 1>as the offensive line in football, which among the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten running backs being drafted right now, they are the

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<v Speaker 1>lowest projected offensive line um, so that's not great. But

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<v Speaker 1>last year at season's end, they ranked twenty swond so

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is more of you know, even if

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<v Speaker 1>Latavius Murray and Jerk McKinnon weren't all that efficient, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were. That's part of the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why we've bashed Jack McKinnon here is because he's never

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<v Speaker 1>really been an efficient running back. I think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of volumes to go around here, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to continue to beat that drum in volume over efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if the offensive line isn't great, I still do

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<v Speaker 1>think Dalvin Cook is gonna be right there in line

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<v Speaker 1>for twenty touch per game, maybe over twenty touches. Even

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<v Speaker 1>if Lutevi's Murray gets his eight to ten per game,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about it. I think there's enough to

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<v Speaker 1>go around for both. Okay, we're gonna get more into

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<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook coming up in a moment, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go through the top twenty four running backs on today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>and to do that, we start with the number one

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<v Speaker 1>overall pick, which, listen, we have said for a while

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<v Speaker 1>it's Todd Gurley or it's Living on Bell, and we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't really spent much time saying which one it should be.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you who should it be? Todd

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<v Speaker 1>Gurley living on Bell. So this might be cop out,

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<v Speaker 1>but I dude think that it's uh, it's format dependent,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would take Todd Gurley in standard just based

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<v Speaker 1>on you know, the touchdowns he had last year. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to project him for close to twenty

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns once again, but just based on the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they used him. Eighteen rushing attempts from within the five

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<v Speaker 1>that led all running backs last season. Of his team's

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<v Speaker 1>rushing attempts within the five. That's also the highest percentage

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<v Speaker 1>of any running back last season. Fifteen goal line carries

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<v Speaker 1>also led all running backs last season. So in the

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<v Speaker 1>non PPR format where touchdowns are so important, I lead

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Gurley. But in any other format, half point, PPR

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<v Speaker 1>or full point, I will go with Levian Bell. All Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think it's reasonable. Um, I probably agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably agree. In an auction, I'm gonna talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about auction strategy this week. I have my auction on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Monday's show will be in all auction programs. We get

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<v Speaker 1>excited for that. UM. In auction I have them priced

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<v Speaker 1>the same number. I do think it's that close. I

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<v Speaker 1>agree in the PPR and any sort of PPR, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to go with lady on Bell. The receptions will

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<v Speaker 1>be there more often, um in a standard I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>with or non PBR should say I'm going to Tide

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<v Speaker 1>Gurley for all the reasons you mentioned. We completely agree

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<v Speaker 1>on that point. Yeah, and Levian Bell look as good

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<v Speaker 1>as he is. He's never had more than nine rushing

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<v Speaker 1>touchdowns in any single season. We all like Levian Bell

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<v Speaker 1>a lot um. I think he's gonna be over four

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<v Speaker 1>hundred touches again this year. Look, he was number one

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<v Speaker 1>in snap share among running backs last year, number one

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<v Speaker 1>in percentage of team carries plus targets, number one and

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<v Speaker 1>carries overall. So I think Levian Bell and probably Ezekiel

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott are the best locks for one hundred plus touches

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<v Speaker 1>this season. I think it's an easy slam dunk one

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<v Speaker 1>and two for Todd Gurley and Levian Bell. Not much

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<v Speaker 1>more to same in my opinion. Then you get to

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<v Speaker 1>three and four, which also we know three and four

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<v Speaker 1>are and somewhere David Johnson and Ezekie Elliott. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>Frank we haven't exactly spent much of time discussing, well,

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<v Speaker 1>who should go first? Are you gonna give me the

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<v Speaker 1>same compound answer in a non PPR Ezekiel Elliott and

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<v Speaker 1>the PPR half point, you go with David Johnson. So

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<v Speaker 1>in not in non PPR and havelf PPR, I'll still

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<v Speaker 1>take Ezekiel Elliott um because I just think overall, I

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<v Speaker 1>think he has more upside than David Johnson. We saw

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago what David Johnson and do

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<v Speaker 1>scored the twenty total touchdowns. But you know there's questions

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<v Speaker 1>about that offense overall, whether it's Sam Bradford, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Rosen. The offensive line is not great there either.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, David Johnson, for what it's worth, looked

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<v Speaker 1>very good in that first preseason game. Looked like vintage

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<v Speaker 1>David Johnson. I don't think that I'm not one of

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<v Speaker 1>these guys who's gonna push him outside the top four

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<v Speaker 1>because you know some people are trying to get a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit too sexy and push David Auson down the board.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do that. But in non PPR, just think, look,

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<v Speaker 1>Zekel Ellett is the Cowboys offense. They've shown that once

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<v Speaker 1>they get inside the red zone, they're just gonna feed, feed, feed.

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<v Speaker 1>Ezekiel Elliott, he's gonna score. I think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to score double digit touchdowns. So in non PPR and

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<v Speaker 1>even half I'll take Zekiel because I think that he

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<v Speaker 1>can flirt with fifty plus receptions this year based on

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<v Speaker 1>how many targets are available. Jason Witten gone, Des Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>gone from this team, Alan Hearns and Michael Gallup, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>do their thing, even Cole Beasley too, But they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>up um Zekil like getting more receptions in this past game,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do buy that. So non PPR and half

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<v Speaker 1>point I have him three. In the full point PPR

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<v Speaker 1>just because I think David Johnson has eight plus reception upside,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put him third. But typically that's how I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>rank it. It's it's based on format. Once again, not

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<v Speaker 1>to give you the compoun answer, but I completely agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Um Again, the more I've read about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Initially I had David Johnson ranked everywhere. Uh I should

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<v Speaker 1>just say everywhere half point PDR and PPR ahead Ezekue Elliott.

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<v Speaker 1>But the more I thought of that, the more I

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<v Speaker 1>looked into it, You're right, Frankie, and that David Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>is in an offense with a lot of unknowns, with

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive coordinator he's never had before, the quarterback he's

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<v Speaker 1>never had before. The offense is simply changed. Ezekue Elliott hasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been the same offense as he came into the league.

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<v Speaker 1>Was also really good about Ezekie Elliott. He's completely healthy

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no distractions going on in Dallas. Like you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned those wide receivers that ultimately will step up for

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<v Speaker 1>Dak Prescott. That's great, but we know this team, this

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<v Speaker 1>offense is gonna revolve around Elliott, and I'm while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure that Cardinal's offense will rely around David Johnson. Um

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<v Speaker 1>the questions, the questions are there, and as good as

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<v Speaker 1>he looked in that first preseason game and as good

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<v Speaker 1>as he's looked at practice, he's been injured each of

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years and then the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>year before injured. It's just there's a lot of injury

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<v Speaker 1>history there, and some of it's flukey, obviously, but some

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<v Speaker 1>of it's not. And I think that seeing the place

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<v Speaker 1>that Ezekiel Elliott currently is in makes me feel more

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable and safer taking him in both the non PPR

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<v Speaker 1>and the half point PBR, and that's why I go

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<v Speaker 1>with Elliott over Johnson in those formats. Yeah. Plus, David

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson is a little bit older than we realize. He's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six years old. He had eight hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 1>six career carries at Northern Iowa. Zeke a little bit younger,

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<v Speaker 1>has some youth on his side, and plus a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the you know, while people are poo

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<v Speaker 1>pooing the Cowboys offense, I do think that it will

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<v Speaker 1>it will be better than the Cardinals offense. The offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line is clearly better, and I don't think the weapons

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<v Speaker 1>are as bad as people have made it out to seem.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's an easy one. Zeke. Three non PBR,

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<v Speaker 1>HA PBR full point IGO with David Johnson has the

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<v Speaker 1>A P plus reception up. All right, let's continue now.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's interesting because the next couple of picks have

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the next two pictures in saney. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>keep breaking down in two because but they've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sorted themselves out also over the past couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you so much agree with this.

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<v Speaker 1>But it used to be a tear I thought of

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<v Speaker 1>of four guys, and now I feel like that tears

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<v Speaker 1>two guys, and it's Alvin Kamara and it's stake Kwon Barkley.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything to me is the dust have settled here a

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<v Speaker 1>bit with mark Ingram suspension with Stakelan Barkley. I know

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's battling that hamstrings tweak. It doesn't seem overly serious.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the EPR you're obviously I would think going

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<v Speaker 1>Camara there um, but Barkley. In the non PPR people

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<v Speaker 1>are feeling very comfortable with that. With all the noise

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how good, how many carries Barkley should get

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<v Speaker 1>Camara in half pint b BR versus Barkley, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a debate. I'm gonna let Frank opine on that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it certainly seems like five six in some orders

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<v Speaker 1>Camara in Barkley. I think in both PPR formats the

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<v Speaker 1>full point, in the half point, they're both right there,

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<v Speaker 1>five and six. In my opinion. In non PPR, I've

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<v Speaker 1>moved Camara down to really, in my opinion, the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of this here, which is within Kareem Hunt behind Melvin Gordon,

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<v Speaker 1>just because I think those guys have more touchdown upside.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, look, Alvin Kamara scored the touchdowns last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but based on his efficiency where he scored them on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, you know he didn't have a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>carries from inside the five, inside the red zone. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess he's gonna catch a ton of passes. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in half point PPR, I still have him

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<v Speaker 1>as my RB six, right behind Sea Kwon Barkley. Um

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<v Speaker 1>in full point PPR, I think that they're interchangeable. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still gonna take se Kwon Barkley overall. So no, my

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<v Speaker 1>number five over overall? Is he number five ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown and he's number five running back? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>number five overall? In a half point PPR and half

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<v Speaker 1>point PPR, yes, not. In full point I would take

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<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown over Sa Kwan full point PPR. So when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to any sort of PPR, I'm gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>Camara over Barkley because I know that Barkley is is

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<v Speaker 1>that trouble threat, being able to block me gonna run,

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to catch and those wheel routes that

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<v Speaker 1>he specialized in at Penn state. Um. I recognize that,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's going to be there in the offense, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of weapons with Evan Ingram and

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<v Speaker 1>with Odell Beckum JG. You're going to read the uh

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<v Speaker 1>the pet Schermer led running back numbers in the final

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<v Speaker 1>twelve games once again? Would you like me to do that?

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like no, I don't want to. You go

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<v Speaker 1>back and lit'en to it. I'll read it for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Three and forty two carries and fifty six perceptions in

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<v Speaker 1>the final twelve games over pet Schumer led Vikings offense

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<v Speaker 1>last year with Latavius Murray and Jerk McKinnon. Just think

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It's mouth watering upside for se Kwon Barker.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's one of a handful of running backs

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<v Speaker 1>who can get three d and fifty plus touches this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that volume I'll take over Camara in both

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<v Speaker 1>the half point and actually in any format I'll take.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll take that volume, that opportunity more so than Camara's efficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we hit the break, I want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>you at eight four, eight, four, three, six seven nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go to Logan in Michigan. What's up logan,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, guys? What's your question? My man? Alright, So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>in my home league, I'm drafting at the sixth spot

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<v Speaker 1>in the ten team PPR league, and so I've done

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<v Speaker 1>a few mock drafts drafting at the same spot with

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<v Speaker 1>the same format and all that stuff, trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>ready and uh, like the first round, you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking Camara Barkley, second round kind of around the Keenan Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Thomas, and then third round it's kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>Larry fit Stefon Diggs. But in the fourth round is

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm having my issues up. Um. Usually there's like

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<v Speaker 1>the Marius Thomas um Umari Cooper, um like Marvin Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's also like a Joe Mix and Jordan Howard,

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<v Speaker 1>Like where would you guys go with that? In a

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<v Speaker 1>full PPR. I feel like, um, I feel like Amari

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper would have the upside, and I don't really want

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<v Speaker 1>to be re sing on a Marvin Jones, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>just tough decisions for me. In the PBR, Marvin Jones

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<v Speaker 1>might least Marvin Jones and de Marius Howards. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>guys at least interested there? I think wide receiver wid

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<v Speaker 1>Alamore at Cooper the running backs to the best players there,

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<v Speaker 1>John Mixon and Jordan Howard. So I think I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to go with that. Despite being APPR. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>If you take a running a wide receiver from the third,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna want to get that RB in the fourth.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will say this ten team PPR. If you

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<v Speaker 1>get McCaffrey in the third, that's where I'm leaning take

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<v Speaker 1>the wide receiver in the fourth grade. We take a break.

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<v Speaker 1>a millionaire. I spent the break looking over um the

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<v Speaker 1>fouls ruled out River on. Just put up sweet director,

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<v Speaker 1>your officials. This this head, this helmet is mind bogging.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it you exact like when you so the

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<v Speaker 1>new rule in the NFL is that you can't you

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<v Speaker 1>can't lead with your helmet whatsoever, as a defender or

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<v Speaker 1>as a running back. Right, I thought that that was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing for a while though, well maybe it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that just like overly enforcing it. But they're the

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<v Speaker 1>last three in which in this video that they said

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<v Speaker 1>they're fouls. I like, don't know what the player did wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Every time you know, you can watch you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>the last three francs. This happened during the preseason. So

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<v Speaker 1>these are all from the preseason Week one. You missed

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<v Speaker 1>one and see the next wanted in the Browns the

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<v Speaker 1>Giant game. I don't one after that. Um, these were

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<v Speaker 1>all called against defense. All should be fouls. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who they're called against or whatever, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I didn't see anything wrong. The video glitz

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<v Speaker 1>right when the tackle was happening. That's unfortunate, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>look and for people who are wondering last one explaining actus,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it. I don't care. The Saints quarterback. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what happened. For those wondering like what

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<v Speaker 1>this might have to do for fantasy, think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, if it's a third down, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep drives alive. This could cause more offensive production, which

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately helps us for fantasy purpose. Well, it might help,

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<v Speaker 1>It might help you, you know, lose, It might go

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<v Speaker 1>the other way against you, but ultimately, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>more penalties are being called weekend and week out, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lead to more drives being sustained and more offensive

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<v Speaker 1>production coming. Yeah. It absolutely well something you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to take note of and we'll see how um tight

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<v Speaker 1>they call it during this season. Now, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get back to a running back rankings and tears and

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<v Speaker 1>in a second that you could now think your half

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<v Speaker 1>point PBR ranks of fantasy pros, and he was thrilled.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like they were listening to us yesterday. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they were so normally they would just take your standard

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<v Speaker 1>and your PPR and just kind of like merge them

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<v Speaker 1>I went through my five and six, which for me

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<v Speaker 1>and a half point and a full point. I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>say half point because of let's we specify that's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. Was Alvin Camara and then it would

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<v Speaker 1>say kuon Barkley, But Frank, pretty much in all formats

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the full PBR, he's got Barkley five and

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<v Speaker 1>the half point's got Camara six. And then in the

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<v Speaker 1>standard or not PPR seven eight and some for me

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<v Speaker 1>my seven eight and for him number six it is

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<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon and Kareem Hunt. We have stressed early and often,

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<v Speaker 1>Frankie that Melvin Gordon belongs in this tier, but I

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<v Speaker 1>still have Kareem Hunt ahead of him. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>have that, Kareem Hunt or Melvin Gordon? Yes, so I

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<v Speaker 1>still do have Kareem Hunt ahead of Melvin Gordon in

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<v Speaker 1>every format. And you know, you look into Kareem hunts

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<v Speaker 1>season last year, it was very very interesting. Look there

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<v Speaker 1>was that low uh, I'll breakdown his season by like

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<v Speaker 1>thirds the first seven games of the season, yet at

0:21:33.480 --> 0:21:36.800
<v Speaker 1>least seven at least one yards from scrimmage in each

0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.639
<v Speaker 1>of the first seven games. He didn't score a touchdown. However,

0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in nine straight games that was from weeks four through

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<v Speaker 1>and I just found that, you know, some of it

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:50.359
<v Speaker 1>is unlucky. But what needs to happen here, Greg, is

0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:55.320
<v Speaker 1>if they don't make Kareem Hunt the workhorse running back.

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Based on everything that we saw last year, what he did,

0:21:58.640 --> 0:22:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, three touches as a as a rookie, coming

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<v Speaker 1>in UM forty three red zone touches with seventh among

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<v Speaker 1>running backs. Think about this one and thirty seven evaded

0:22:08.200 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 1>tackles first among running backs. Eighteen runs of fifteen plus

0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:15.280
<v Speaker 1>yards first among running backs. Six hundred and thirty two

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:20.280
<v Speaker 1>yards created by himself, first among running backs. All the

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<v Speaker 1>metrics and everything that we saw last year, especially at

0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.119
<v Speaker 1>the beginning of the season and the end of the season,

0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.400
<v Speaker 1>says that Kareem Hunt is a beast. Now if any

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.120
<v Speaker 1>reed comes out this year and for whatever reason gets

0:22:31.119 --> 0:22:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Spencer Wear or whatever other schmuck involved involved in the

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs run game and it's not Kareem Hunt. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you this will be one of the biggest flops in

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<v Speaker 1>fantasy football history. I'm talking about like anything that we

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<v Speaker 1>we saw in the World Cup. Greg Seriously, like this

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<v Speaker 1>will be terrible because I just think all the metrics,

0:22:51.520 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 1>the way he ran last year, what he did and

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<v Speaker 1>that low in the middle of the season was because

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.959
<v Speaker 1>they weren't really giving him the ball. That's the only

0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.840
<v Speaker 1>way Kareem Hunt will bust is out of his control.

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<v Speaker 1>That's basically how I'll say it. Because when he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, if they give him fifteen to twenty touches

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:07.320
<v Speaker 1>per game, he's going to live up to his first

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:11.320
<v Speaker 1>round value. And I wholeheartedly leave that in this offense,

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:13.240
<v Speaker 1>which I think is gonna get down the field of ton.

0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:16.280
<v Speaker 1>I know Patrick Mahomes turning the ball over in training camp,

0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:18.640
<v Speaker 1>but I just I don't see how he could fail

0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:21.719
<v Speaker 1>with these weapons, Travis Kelsey, Tyreek Hill, the big arm,

0:23:21.760 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 1>they bring in, Sammy Watkins. They're going to get down

0:23:23.920 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>the field of ton that I think that's gonna just

0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:28.520
<v Speaker 1>lead to more scoring opportunities for Kareem Hunt. If anything

0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:30.760
<v Speaker 1>goes wrong, it's because Andy Reid caused it. In my opinion,

0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>injury can predict I ultimately totally um, I totally agree

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:39.560
<v Speaker 1>with you. Is you look at Kareem Hunt and at

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.040
<v Speaker 1>four point nine yards for carry, is just just really

0:23:42.080 --> 0:23:44.320
<v Speaker 1>stands out, especially when you prepare him as I am

0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:47.159
<v Speaker 1>against the Melvin Gordon, because Melvin Gordon never gets over four, right,

0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 1>You're looking at three point nine three point consistently, and

0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. And we've said many times on the show,

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:54.800
<v Speaker 1>we have no problem what Melvin Gordon dollars because you

0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:56.960
<v Speaker 1>know what you're getting. The touchdowns will be there, and yeah,

0:23:56.960 --> 0:23:58.679
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna catch a ton of balls and that's awesome.

0:23:58.960 --> 0:24:00.480
<v Speaker 1>But I don't think he has a potential in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of sty and maybe I'm going out on a

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:03.760
<v Speaker 1>limb to finish the number one overall back and I

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:06.400
<v Speaker 1>think cream Hunt does. And that's what makes me really

0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.920
<v Speaker 1>like Kareem Hunt more than a Melvin Gordon. When we

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:11.359
<v Speaker 1>started this process, I had Cream Hunt ahead of Alvin Kamara,

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and of course marketing suspension change that. But I believe

0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Kareem Hunt isn't all around talent. I think we see

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:19.680
<v Speaker 1>the phase out process of Shark Hendrick West. I think

0:24:19.680 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Spencer wears a backup. I think um Damian Williams, if

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:25.760
<v Speaker 1>he makes the team, he's a backup nobody. I think

0:24:25.800 --> 0:24:28.280
<v Speaker 1>they realize that Cream hunts their man and this team,

0:24:28.520 --> 0:24:30.520
<v Speaker 1>we talk about all the weapons they have, Cream hands

0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a major part of that. I think he only gets

0:24:32.000 --> 0:24:34.719
<v Speaker 1>better in year two. I love cream Hunt. This year

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>he's absolutely next for me, you know all formats, and

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 1>then I have Melvin Gordon. Yes, so in non PPR,

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>I have both Kareem Hunt and Melvin Gordon ahead of

0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Alvin Kamara. Like I mentioned, just based on that touchdown upside,

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>but I wholeheartedly agree with you with I think Kareem

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.159
<v Speaker 1>Hunt has that upside based on what we saw in

0:24:52.240 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>those first seven games where he started his career his

0:24:55.560 --> 0:24:59.080
<v Speaker 1>NFL career with one yards of scrimmage or more in

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:00.680
<v Speaker 1>each of the first seven games. And not only that,

0:25:00.840 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 1>like he had Monster games where he helped you win

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:05.600
<v Speaker 1>early on, and then he had Monster games where he

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 1>helped you win. I mean, this guy helped me win

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.240
<v Speaker 1>Fantasy Championships last year. If you just take what he

0:25:10.320 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 1>did early in the season last year and towards the

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.080
<v Speaker 1>end of the season last year, and we could just

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>make that a little bit more consistent throughout the season.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.879
<v Speaker 1>He legitimately does have you know, top three running back upside.

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe that as well. Great, and then we continue

0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 1>on to the next two and I like, how ever,

0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 1>bringing them down by a two years, and that's almost

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 1>really how they go. And you get to Leonard Fournette

0:25:28.160 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>and Dalvin Cook. I think this is where we probably disagree,

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 1>even the Dalvin Cook guy all along. I've been the

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Leonard Fournette guy all along. I know what you read

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>about the vikings with Latavia's Mary and with Jack McKinnon,

0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>and I've read you plenty of stafts with Letter Fournett

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and just how much that offense revolves around him. I

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>think we're pretty set in our positions. UM. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that full point p BR, I probably lean Dalvin Cook

0:25:48.320 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, because I dont think Leonard Fournet catch

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>as many passes. I think we see a lot of

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>t J. Yelden and Corey Grant on third down. UM.

0:25:53.480 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 1>But in the half point and then the non PBR,

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to stick with Fournett. Yeah, so I have

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Devin Cook ahead of Leonard four Nett in every four Matt.

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>I've been consistent with that. I'm gonna remain that way.

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I remember when we had Dr A on I even

0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.000
<v Speaker 1>asked him based on both injury histories here because Dalvin

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Cook again coming off the torn a c L and

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:11.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe we don't talk about that enough, but

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>he has an injury that he's coming back from, and

0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 1>then Leonard Fournette has the chronic foot ankle injuries. And

0:26:16.640 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I asked Dr A you know who would you rather draft,

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and he said, undoubtedly it's Dalvin Cook. So he just

0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of, you know, reassured what I thought already. And

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:28.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, question marks about the Vikings offensive line, but

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that offense is gonna be great. They're gonna

0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>get down the field of ton Um. Dalvin Cook was

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.680
<v Speaker 1>averaging eighteen and a half rushing attempts himself before he

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>got hurt. The Vikings overall, their offense was second in

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 1>rush attempts last season. You know who was first, It

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>was actually the Jaguars. But um, I think I'm only

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 1>really worried about the injury concerned with Leonard Fournet because

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>they improved the offensive line. Like everything else there, it

0:26:52.160 --> 0:26:54.080
<v Speaker 1>sets up perfectly for Leonard four Nette, Like he is

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:56.760
<v Speaker 1>a workhorse. He averaged over twenty carries per game, everything

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:58.840
<v Speaker 1>that you want out of your running back. And I

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>think the p PR concerns are a little bit overblown

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>because I think Leonard Fournette catches forty plus balls this here.

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:06.679
<v Speaker 1>But to me, the only reason why I have him

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>behind Dalvin Cook is the chronic foot and ankle injury concerns.

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Greg Yeah, so um it's fair, and I like where

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>he's going, Like I don't like if Dalvin Cook is

0:27:16.000 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>gone and I'm at the swing and I'm gonna take

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Leonard Fournet. Yeah, I don't have a problem. I don't

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:21.280
<v Speaker 1>have a problem with I just splitting hairs here. The

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>only thing scares me about Dalvin Cook is that line.

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I know, Jackson Ba's line, which is already good last year,

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>he gets better than Andrew Norwell. Um, so for me,

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't have that fear of the line like I

0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>do with the Vikings and Dalvin Cook, Like, yes, he's

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>he's totally fine and he's practicing fully healthy. And Leonard

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:37.239
<v Speaker 1>Fournett has the chronic issue you addressed at frank Um.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>But for me, that line's gotten better. For that seems healthy.

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:42.440
<v Speaker 1>He lost a little bit of weight, which I always appreciate.

0:27:43.720 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 1>That's the edge for me, and it's very, very close.

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 1>It really is. And these are the top ten running

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>backs who are consistently pretty much gone by, like the

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:53.680
<v Speaker 1>swing pick in fantasy football, regardless of format. Greg, I

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like we've done this before. But if you had

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to choose one or two guys from this group because

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:02.239
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen, who are most likely to bust? Who

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>would you choose from this group? From these group of

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.680
<v Speaker 1>ten running backs that we've mentioned so far most likely

0:28:06.720 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>to bust? I hate to say this because it's just

0:28:09.760 --> 0:28:12.760
<v Speaker 1>so ridiculous, and I know it sounds ridiculous. I think

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.159
<v Speaker 1>it's Alvin Kamara, and I just I just think it.

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Look at the workload and look at the touchdown efficiency,

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>and it's the same conversation we have with Shaun Watson yesterday.

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's Kamara out of that like he's

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:25.040
<v Speaker 1>the one I'm going I would pull the trigger. I'm

0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 1>not saying I wouldn't. That's the one that probably scares

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 1>me the most. Out of these guys, you, yeah, I

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 1>actually have three candidates. Kamara is one of them and

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>any other two you know, based on injury concern but

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 1>that's what can cause a player to bust is Leonard

0:28:38.880 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Fournet and David Johnson. Yeah, David Johnson I considered as well. Um,

0:28:42.640 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 1>those are probably the but like I'm still not shying away,

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>like I said, yeah, but they're the most risky running

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>backs I'd say in the first round. Okay, cool, So

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.000
<v Speaker 1>those are the top ten guys. And Frank said these

0:28:54.160 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>wild this year, that ten, these ten running backs are

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:00.719
<v Speaker 1>legitimately going in the first about fourteen picks or depending

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>on what draft it is. In our flex draft and

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 1>non PPR, the first ten of the first eleven picks,

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody except Antonio Brown, who I think went six seven

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.800
<v Speaker 1>seven seven, took Barkley Sex end of the first eleven

0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>picks and non PPR were running backs and Florio was

0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:19.680
<v Speaker 1>depending on how you look at it, he was hand

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>gifted DeAndre Hopkins and Odell Beckham at pick twelve again

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>in non PPR. And you're working in a lot of

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>questions about that from listeners that if you're in the

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.240
<v Speaker 1>half point and you're in a half point PPR. I

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 1>just want to split the difference. If you're in that

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>half point PPR and all of these running backs. Yeah,

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>let's say that there's ten running backs here and there's

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 1>a strong top ten, nine of them go. You're at

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>the turn, and if nine of them go, that means

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>you have two of the top four wide receivers left

0:29:45.800 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 1>of DeAndre Hopkins and Brown be gone to the top

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>three DeAndre Hopkins, Odell Beckham and Hulu Jones. Do you

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>take like two of those and me like, holy crap,

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 1>like I just got this? Or do you take that

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>tenth running back being that's probably four net or Cook?

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>What would you rather are doing that situation? So I

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>actually experimented with this in one of my most recent

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>best ball dress. I had picked Levin Uh and by

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.600
<v Speaker 1>the time I got there, I had to either take

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook, he was the last running back available, or

0:30:12.360 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the wide receivers. I ended up taking DeAndre Hopkins.

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>Dalvin Cook went at the turn, and I ended up

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 1>with Julio Jones in the second round, which started in

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a half point PPR. Now, I'm not really I don't

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>feel great about my running backs. I ended up with

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Derrick Henry Ronald Jones, and I think Marshall Lynch as

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.320
<v Speaker 1>like my first three, and if I had to do

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>it over again, I probably would take Dalvin Cook right

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 1>and then whatever wide receiver felt to me around two.

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>So so that was that was one question. That's the

0:30:38.600 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>question we had is at eight we talked about Cream

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Hunt Melvin Gordon being potential picks in that spot depending

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 1>on format. Would you rather have those guys around the

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 1>eight spot? I know this is a whiteboard series that's

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>coming up today, You're doing the number eight pick. Would

0:30:51.960 --> 0:30:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you rather have a Karea Hunt? And again you could

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:57.680
<v Speaker 1>just say I'm answering later Cream, We'll say Melvin Gordon.

0:30:57.760 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Would rather Melvin Gordon or DeAndre Hopkins? There? Yeah, I

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 1>would take the running back because I like the wide

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:05.240
<v Speaker 1>receiver value better in that early second round, because you

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>know you could get one of Michael Thomas, Keenan Allen,

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Devantae Adams a J. Green. To me, the combination of

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>that workhorse running back in the first where it's like

0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Melvin Gordon or Kareem Hunt, plus that elite wide receiver

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 1>in the second is better than DeAndre Hopkins. And then

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>whoever you're gonna pair with him in the second, whether

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 1>it's Devonte Freeman, Uh, Joe Mixon, Uh, you know, Jordan

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Howard are running back like that? While you know DeAndre

0:31:30.760 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 1>Hopkins might outscore Melvin Gordon for sure, that can happen.

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I think the combination of Melvin Gordon and one of

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>those elite wide receivers will outscore whatever running back you

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>pair with DeAndre Hopkins, So I would take the running

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 1>back at pig. There you go. That's the most common question.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.680
<v Speaker 1>We have to an break here seven nine. To get

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 1>back to you, I want to go to Jason in

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Colorado next. Jason, Hey, how's going great? What's going on?

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Start for Frank? What's love the series you've been doing.

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just curious, what's uh your favorite one to punch

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>from the from the first two rounds? Your favorite combination

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of players you're able to kind of grab. I think

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>it's a great question, and obviously the answer to to

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that is what pick you've clearly preferred the most because

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 1>of the two players you you can grab. Yeah, well,

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.959
<v Speaker 1>I think it's awesome. Yeah, it's awesome to grab one

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 1>of the workhorse running backs. But in my opinion, again,

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>you miss out on one of those elite wide receivers.

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:30.680
<v Speaker 1>And don't get me wrong, some wide receivers are going

0:32:30.760 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>to break out, but to me, the cut off is

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.120
<v Speaker 1>a J. Green, and it's a J Green Davante Adams,

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Keenan Allen, and Michael Thomas working my way backwards in

0:32:38.280 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the second round. So as early as you can get

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>in the first round where you can guarantee that you

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>get one of those wide receivers, that's what I like.

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I started another Best Ball draft yesterday, Greg, and I

0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:49.400
<v Speaker 1>came in here and told you today I had the

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 1>six pick. I took Sae Kwon Barkley, and I ended

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>up getting Keenan All in the second round. I love

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>that start. I don't know if you can guarantee that

0:32:56.280 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>every time, but you know, if you're anywhere from that

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 1>six to ten rain and you get a work horse

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>running back and then you get an elite wide receiver,

0:33:03.040 --> 0:33:04.640
<v Speaker 1>I think that's probably my best range. And that's why

0:33:04.680 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I think pick eight, and we'll see it today with

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 1>your video, I think I pick eight might wind up

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>being your favorite because I think that scenario is probably

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.920
<v Speaker 1>most likely right around there, which is what I had

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>in Flex and I too, Kareem hunt first here you go,

0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I'll well go back to you Jonathan new Jersey or

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>next John. Hey guys, UM, how you doing? And I

0:33:22.800 --> 0:33:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I had called the other day and I asked about

0:33:25.400 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>full point twelve team PPR with pick number five. You

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 1>guys told me that undoubtedly you probably go with Antonio

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Brown appeals on board. But I figured, now, since you

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>guys are talking about running back, let's let's assume that

0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Brown like goes Forth, Um, and I missed out

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 1>on him and I got like Ezekiel Elliott there or uh,

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, one of the top four guys. Um, what

0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.959
<v Speaker 1>would you be your advice for the second round? Uh?

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Assuming like the max that I've done, I haven't seen

0:33:55.080 --> 0:33:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Davante Adams, I haven't seen all all these other guys, um,

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>But what would you pick with? Assuming ab has gone

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>number four? I end up with Zeke? Uh? Where would

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:07.280
<v Speaker 1>you go with um with your next pick? For that one?

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Frankie did a number five in your whiteboard series already?

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Who'd you? Who'd you grab? There? So I would try

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 1>to get one of those wide receivers like I mentioned,

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.040
<v Speaker 1>but from the mock drafts, he's doing it. Sounds like

0:34:17.080 --> 0:34:20.040
<v Speaker 1>those wide receivers are gone. So you can choose to

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>pull one of those wide receivers up the board if

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>you really want, like a Mike Evans, a t Y Hilton,

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 1>someone like that. Or you can just zig when everyone

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 1>else is zagging. If everyone's grabbing the wide receivers, that

0:34:29.920 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>means some running back value is going to fall to you. So,

0:34:32.480 --> 0:34:35.680
<v Speaker 1>whether it's DeVonta Freeman or Christian McCaffrey, who personally I

0:34:35.760 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>have ranked higher than Freeman, Frank full point, climbing down,

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 1>climbing down, Christian McCaffrey, I love it. Yeah. So if

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:45.440
<v Speaker 1>you could get McCaffrey um in the second round of

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.800
<v Speaker 1>a full point PPR, even though everyone says, oh, you

0:34:47.880 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta grab wide receivers in in the full point PPR format,

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 1>if you start Zeke or David Johnson with Christian McCaffrey,

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a fabulous start in the first two

0:34:57.400 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>rounds and then really, you know, the next three, maybe

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 1>even the next four picks in your draft, I'm probably

0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 1>just loading up on wide receivers and playing it out

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>from there. Greg, let's go to Shawn in New York next, Sean. Hey, guys,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>so you guys been giving me advice the past couple

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:15.800
<v Speaker 1>of days about awesome sleeper running backs and wide receivers

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>in my sixteen teams stampond league. I was wondering, you know,

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:21.400
<v Speaker 1>after my first two picks, which are probably gonna be

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>running back, since its uh non PPR league, should I

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>go for like an Aaron Rodgers maybe Deshaun Watson type

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 1>of big scoring quarterback in like the third round in

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a sixteen team league. I I simply can't recommend it.

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna need to just pile on running backs and

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. It's just too big. That's and I said,

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I like one of these quarterbacks you can just pick

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 1>and wait and hold on you and never have to

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.840
<v Speaker 1>think about it in your league. Give me the wide receivers,

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:49.800
<v Speaker 1>give me the running backs. I'm gonna worry about quarterback

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>way later. I understand why you might want that advantage

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>in the sixteen team league, though, because if you get

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>an elite quarterback, that's where you stand out each week

0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>against your opponent. But I lean with you, Greg, I'm

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.319
<v Speaker 1>probably loading up on wide receivers after I grab those rbs.

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:05.560
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<v Speaker 1>That's Fantasy Factor dot com. So we want to do

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<v Speaker 1>the top twenty four running backs today. That's that's simply

0:38:10.520 --> 0:38:12.280
<v Speaker 1>not gonna happen. We're not gonna have time. We'll continue

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 1>this discussion tomorrow. Um, but we wanted to into the

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>second round. Guys, there's the top ten players that we

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.359
<v Speaker 1>just gave you. They are the top ten. They are

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:25.160
<v Speaker 1>going in the first fourteen picks, which leaves ten more

0:38:25.239 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>picks to go to finish out your top twenty four.

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>And to me, in those ten picks, there are five

0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>more guys that belong there. And drafts are different, depending

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.359
<v Speaker 1>on format, depending on scoring, depending how your league goes.

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.359
<v Speaker 1>But for me personally, if I had to rank top

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty four, fifteen of them would be running backs. We've

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>named ten. We have five more to go. Now I

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 1>think our order, how many do you have more to go?

0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe that should be the top twenty not

0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>top twenty? More running backs that should be the top

0:38:55.040 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty four? Picks? Four? You know? You guess the one

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 1>you have? You have four? You have four more TOG

0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:06.720
<v Speaker 1>you're saying, fine, I thought it was the other way. Okay,

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:10.120
<v Speaker 1>So Mike Tier has five more guys. Frank's here's four

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.360
<v Speaker 1>more guys. I already know which one for him is

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>not um to me, that's here is this in some order?

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:22.240
<v Speaker 1>We'll discuss it. DeVante Freeman, Christian McCaffrey, Jordan Howard, Joe Mixon,

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and the guy that Frank does not have, and that's

0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Jerick McKinnon. If you're in the half point PBR, we'll

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>start there, Frank, the first ten running backs off the board,

0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for running back in the second round, which

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:39.840
<v Speaker 1>one do you want? Greggy Man. We put this up

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>as a poll two on the Fantasy bfs Twitter, and

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 1>currently Christian McCaffrey and Devantay Freeman are very close. I

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.279
<v Speaker 1>moved him up. I have christ McCaffrey levin. He's my

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 1>next running back off the board in the second round.

0:39:52.760 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Although he is tasty here in the full point PPR,

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 1>but I think I think the way he was using

0:39:57.800 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that first game is very telling. Greg. I mean, he's

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna you gotta go like I mean, that helps for sure.

0:40:02.719 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>But he played all fourteen of the first team snaps

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:09.719
<v Speaker 1>with the offensive line and not playing in the fourth quarter. Yeah,

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 1>and look, North Turner is known for having a workhorse

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>running back. So I'm starting to buy more and more

0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 1>into that theory with Christian McCaffrey. And you know, even

0:40:17.960 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>if the Panther's offensive line isn't very good, I think

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna lend itself to McCaffrey catching a bunch of passes.

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>We could see him with you know, presumably seventy plus

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 1>maybe eighty plus receptions once again this year. Um, that's

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.879
<v Speaker 1>gonna help him the half point PPR as well. Maybe

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>he's more likely now. I think when we first started

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>talking about McCaffrey were like, you know, he'll probably score

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>like six touchdowns this year. Now he's probably maybe he's

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.959
<v Speaker 1>closer to like seven or eight, and ultimately that helps

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with seventy year eighty plus receptions if he's the workhorse

0:40:46.880 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>for this team. So I haven't been trenched as my

0:40:49.400 --> 0:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>number eleven running back in half PPR right now. He

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:54.719
<v Speaker 1>would be number eleven in full point as well in standard.

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 1>He's like a third round running back in my opinion.

0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.320
<v Speaker 1>For me, in your half point, I have Christian cacaffrey

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is my twelfth ranked running back in the full point.

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>I do have him as number eleven. When we talked

0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>about finding the next Todd Gurley, Christian McCaffrey was my

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:12.719
<v Speaker 1>answer because I thought through one. Remember my answer is

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Darius guys first. Actually, no, it can't be worse than that.

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 1>Who wasn't shot Penny? All right? So it was not worse. Um,

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty bad. Christian McAffrey is my answer because I

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:25.279
<v Speaker 1>thought the touches would be there, like even if the

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>touch even if he could just fall into a few

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>more touchdowns. What Frank said he needed to do to

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>get in that first round mix was more touchdowns and

0:41:33.560 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>more arts. And I think given the usage in Game

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 1>one of the preseason, being a little bit bigger helps

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:41.000
<v Speaker 1>this guy. And and that's why I was confident in there.

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>And I really like Christian McCaffrey this year, like I

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 1>think it could be a full purpose back. But the

0:41:45.480 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 1>one that we felt had the highest floor essentially was

0:41:49.840 --> 0:41:52.759
<v Speaker 1>DeVante Freeman. Yeah he's got the concussion issues and that's

0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 1>the thing. Yeah he has a Tevin Coleman issue and

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:57.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. And yeah he has a Steve Sarkhesian issue,

0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>which is also a thing. But the one thing with

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Vanta Freeman you could say about really any of these guys,

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>because he's done it before, like he's been a first

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:06.799
<v Speaker 1>round running back. He has put together a really good

0:42:06.840 --> 0:42:10.480
<v Speaker 1>receiving series season and a really good running season, and

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 1>you put that together and you have a work horse

0:42:12.200 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>running back and all the negatives that we put together previously,

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 1>like those are fair. I'm not disagreeing when you're looking

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>at a non PBR or a half PPR, I think

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:24.400
<v Speaker 1>DeVonta Freeman is the one I can count on to

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.520
<v Speaker 1>do a little bit of everything and in the half,

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 1>in the full point b BR. Just for the record,

0:42:29.360 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I would just flip flop him like I would have

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>McAffrey eleven in him twelve. That's how good I feel

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>about DeVante Freeman. I didn't want to break these two

0:42:35.520 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 1>down into like a twosome here, but to me that

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 1>the two clear next guys. I don't know that Frank

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 1>agrees with that um, but I have DeVante Freeman. Overall.

0:42:43.200 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>My rankings are half point I've Devanta Freeman eleven, and

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I have Christian McCaffrey twelve. Yes, so I still have

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:52.919
<v Speaker 1>Freeman as my RB thirteen. But like I told you downstairs, Greg,

0:42:53.200 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the more and more I think about it, I just

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:57.200
<v Speaker 1>don't see a scenario in the second round where I

0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>feel good drafting DeVonta Freeman. And I tried to give

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>him this NA yeah, and it's like, look, I just

0:43:04.440 --> 0:43:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I worry about the concussions, and you know you don't

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>want to draft scared because any running back can end

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:10.680
<v Speaker 1>up with concussions. Any running back can get hurt year

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.240
<v Speaker 1>in and year out. But I'm more so worried about.

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Look the the system with Steve Sarkisian here. Last the

0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>last three years, his targets have dipped each year. He

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.040
<v Speaker 1>had ninety seven targets back in that was with Kyle Shanahan.

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Even with Shanahan and twenty six team, his targets dipped

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:29.759
<v Speaker 1>by thirty two down to sixty five targets. Last year

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that dipped by eighteen more, only forty seven targets. So

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about DeVonta Freeman had thirty six receptions last year.

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>That might be the same range that Jordan Howard is

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 1>in this year. Like, yeah, Jordan Howard is not gonna

0:43:43.400 --> 0:43:45.160
<v Speaker 1>catch a lot of passes. He might be like thirty

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:49.080
<v Speaker 1>thirty five catches. All right, that's not great. But DeVonta

0:43:49.160 --> 0:43:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Freeman a three year trend of just trending downwards with

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>the receptions, and I worry about how Steve Sarkasan is

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna use him. I will say this Greg that as

0:43:57.080 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 1>long as DeVonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman have been on

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>this team, he dominates red zone work. When they get

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.560
<v Speaker 1>inside the red zone, when they get inside the ten

0:44:04.680 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 1>inside the five. That is DeVonta Freeman's job. But I

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 1>just feel like he is trending in the wrong direction.

0:44:10.120 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 1>And you know, for all the reasons we like the

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:15.280
<v Speaker 1>Bears offense this year, I think their offensive line is solid.

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be able to move the ball more this season,

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:20.719
<v Speaker 1>just a better overall scheme. With Matt Naggi coming over,

0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>I think there's gonna be opportunities for you know, close

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>to if not double digit touchdowns for Jordan Howard. And

0:44:26.360 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>like I said, they mentioned they want to get him

0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 1>more involved. In the past game, I could see him

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 1>with thirty thirty five receptions. So as of now in

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the half point PPR, I've moved Jordan Howard ahead of

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>DeVonta Freeman. I'm just kind of souring off Freeman right

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>now with the concussions and the targets, a three year

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>downward trend for him. I love Jordan Howard and you

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>know that I loved him last year. I love him again.

0:44:46.160 --> 0:44:50.120
<v Speaker 1>He's my number thirteen running back across the all formats.

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's number thirteen for me. But problem with Jordan Howard

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is and you said, listen, you can get perceptions, and

0:44:55.400 --> 0:44:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that's true, but after we too last year, I proposed

0:44:59.040 --> 0:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>trading away Jordan Howard for Rico, and then Rico owner said, no,

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>like that's the direction we were in. How drastic it

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 1>was after two weeks that was John Fox like, totally

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.680
<v Speaker 1>we're projecting forward now, Greggy yea, yeah, I'm just saying

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>how drastic it got for Jordan Howard. And I do

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 1>wonder that if he does struggle in the passing game,

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 1>we do see more of three cooing. And people are

0:45:15.080 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 1>really high on Thurrico in this year, like extremely high.

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not. Maybe it's because I really liked

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Jordan Howard, but that fear is there, and that's ultimately

0:45:25.239 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>why I trust him the least out of those three

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>guys McCaffrey and Freeman. I love Jordan Howard, He's thirteen.

0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:33.919
<v Speaker 1>I just think when you're splitting hairs here, I'm gonna

0:45:33.960 --> 0:45:35.640
<v Speaker 1>take the guy who I think, Jordan Howard is more

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 1>of a guaranteed workhorse running back. You look the past

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>two years, Vonta Freeman has been right around fourteen rushing

0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:45.240
<v Speaker 1>attempts per game. Now his receptions have come down again

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 1>or point nine per game three years ago, three point four,

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:50.959
<v Speaker 1>two point six last year. So if he's only getting

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>fourteen uh carries and then around three receptions per game,

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.759
<v Speaker 1>you're at about seventeen touches and again he's gonna get

0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:01.399
<v Speaker 1>that that work inside the reds own. But if Jordan Howard,

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>you're guaranteeing me, you know, seventeen eighteen carries the game

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and you know whatever it is two receptions if he's

0:46:07.120 --> 0:46:10.000
<v Speaker 1>in that thirty reception rains. Once again, I just I

0:46:10.120 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>think I feel better about Jordan Howard being more of

0:46:12.760 --> 0:46:15.479
<v Speaker 1>a workhorse running back for his team, whereas he doesn't

0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:19.000
<v Speaker 1>have the injury history of the concussions concerned. Um, I

0:46:19.120 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>just I don't feel good about drafting DeVante Freeman all

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that much anymore in the second round. Again, for me,

0:46:23.360 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I look at DeVante Freeman much like I looked at

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 1>Kaream Hunt, Like this is a guy that I if

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think the things to break his way

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 1>that he finished a top twelve running back, and I

0:46:32.160 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 1>feel the same in all formats. And I feel the

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 1>same way when it comes to my number twel running

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 1>back that Christian McCaffrey could do it. Um, Jordan Howard

0:46:39.280 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>can also, But like your first twelve running bats theoretically

0:46:44.080 --> 0:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>or r V one's right, like all those twelve guys,

0:46:45.719 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>you believe you're gonna be r V one. I believe

0:46:47.880 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that even though Jordan Howard did it last year, I

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>believe there's a better chance than projection forward, that Devonte

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Freeman does it than Jordan Howard. And it's again, it's

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:58.799
<v Speaker 1>two spots. That's where I have Jordan Howard, then another

0:46:58.840 --> 0:47:00.600
<v Speaker 1>two some of the final two for me in the

0:47:00.640 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 1>second round. Frank has a once Rancus one guy left.

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.200
<v Speaker 1>I have two here, and I hope Frank tells me

0:47:05.280 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>why he doesn't agree, and I'm sure he will. But

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>for me, and Frank's really called me out over the

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>order of this, I have Jered McKinnon and I have

0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon. I remember when we remember we laughed at

0:47:18.320 --> 0:47:22.200
<v Speaker 1>this when we said Jerreed McKinnon really and Joe Mixon

0:47:22.239 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>we're both second round running backs. But the deeper we

0:47:24.080 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>get in the draft season, you're seeing it be a

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.120
<v Speaker 1>realization to me, these are two guys I'd much rather

0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.879
<v Speaker 1>take towards the turn, especially if you drafted running back

0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>with your first pick. Grab the wide receivers here, grab

0:47:35.840 --> 0:47:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the Allen's the Adams and Greens, the Hilton's Evans like.

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:41.239
<v Speaker 1>I like those guys better than these two running backs.

0:47:41.239 --> 0:47:44.440
<v Speaker 1>I want to preface that by saying, but as I

0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>look at the next year running backs, the guys to

0:47:46.120 --> 0:47:48.919
<v Speaker 1>come after, uh, to me, the Royce Freeman's and Derrick

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Henry the Alex Collins, like, these guys are end of

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>the third round guys. To me, McKinnon and Mixing are

0:47:56.080 --> 0:47:59.120
<v Speaker 1>significantly better, and I'm skipping McCoy's. I honestly have no

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>idea what to do with and maybe we can discuss that.

0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 1>But to me, McKinnon and Mixing or a tier above

0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:07.120
<v Speaker 1>all the other names I just mentioned. That's why I

0:48:07.200 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 1>believe they fitten this tire. The guys I want to

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.359
<v Speaker 1>take a little bit later on more at the turn

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:13.000
<v Speaker 1>at two three may be at the beginning of the

0:48:13.080 --> 0:48:15.799
<v Speaker 1>third round, but to me, Mixing and McKinnon are next.

0:48:16.040 --> 0:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm buying into the Shanahan hype. I buy into the

0:48:18.000 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Shannahan every single year. To be perfectly honest with you,

0:48:20.960 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 1>you drafted all over Carlos Side last year. I was

0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 1>all over Devonte Freeman the years prior to that. Because

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Shanahan knows what he's doing with running backs. You

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:31.440
<v Speaker 1>go back to Washington where he at Alfred Morris, you

0:48:31.560 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>go back to Houston where he had Arian Foster. It's

0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.640
<v Speaker 1>not a coincidence. Kyle Shanahan knows what he's doing with

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.920
<v Speaker 1>running backs. This is why Matt Breeda became a thing

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>last year. That's why many people believe Matt Brida will

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>be a thing this year. I understand the workload concerns

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:47.400
<v Speaker 1>with McKinnon. I understand when everybody points out what he

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:50.200
<v Speaker 1>did in Minnesota. It could not sustain all of those carries.

0:48:50.360 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 1>I get it. But I think Kyle Shanahan's going to

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:56.279
<v Speaker 1>give him every opportunity to do so. The Niners line

0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>is improving. Frankie read that yesterday. I think how good

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the line was, um And those are the reasons to

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>love McKinnon. Joe Mixon. I admit I have a little

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>sour taste in my mouth from last year. I know

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 1>he got better as the season went along. I know

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that the Bengals went out to improve their offensive line

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:13.920
<v Speaker 1>as well. But when you look at the half point

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 1>PBR and the full point PPR, and I'd say in

0:49:16.160 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 1>the standard I would have mixing ahead of McKinnon, but

0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Mixing is not gonna catch many passes on this team

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>with giel Bernard still there, like that is still his role,

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>that is still his job. I know mixes the goal

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>line back, but I think McKinnon could be the goal

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>line back anyway. I have a McKinnon and then Mixing

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.879
<v Speaker 1>and the half point and the full point pbr. Yeah,

0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>so I have Mixing ahead of McKinnon in every format.

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 1>I believe I have Mixing really right there, cemented it

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>as my RB fourteen. I think he is right there

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.560
<v Speaker 1>behind those guys McCaffrey, Howard and Freeman regardless of format.

0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:46.440
<v Speaker 1>So he's kind of just like entrenched as my RB

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:50.200
<v Speaker 1>fourteen regardless of again, regardless of format. But I just

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>think with with Joe Mixon, what the reason why I

0:49:52.800 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 1>was kind of souring on him, like maybe he doesn't

0:49:54.719 --> 0:49:57.919
<v Speaker 1>have immense upside because when last time we spoke about mixing,

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:01.680
<v Speaker 1>I said, the last five seasons, when thirteen seventeen, the

0:50:01.840 --> 0:50:04.480
<v Speaker 1>lead backs for Marvin Lewis and the Bengals have average

0:50:04.520 --> 0:50:08.120
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and thirteen carries per season. Four seasons before that,

0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:11.560
<v Speaker 1>his lead backs average two hundred nine three carries perceedon

0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:13.840
<v Speaker 1>so I don't think we get there. But if you

0:50:13.960 --> 0:50:16.319
<v Speaker 1>look at, you know, the top twelve fifteen running backs

0:50:16.360 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 1>from last year, like, for example, Davantae Freeman finishes RB thirteen.

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:21.880
<v Speaker 1>He had a hundred and ninety six carries and he

0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:25.000
<v Speaker 1>had thirty six receptions. Dan Lewis had a hundred and

0:50:25.080 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 1>eighty carries and thirty two receptions. Like Joe Mixon can

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 1>easily pay off where you're drafting him right now as

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a top fifteen running back. He can pay off that

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:38.720
<v Speaker 1>value just getting two hundred and twenty carries and forty receptions.

0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Remember last year he caught thirty of thirty four targets.

0:50:41.840 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I think Joe Mixon people sleep on this part of

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 1>his game. He is a phenomenal receiver. Coming out of college,

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>he was a great receiver. Gio Bernard is not going away.

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:52.040
<v Speaker 1>He will have a role, But I think that there's

0:50:52.040 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>a fair shot that Joe Mixon can catch forty plus

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 1>balls this year, even with Gio Bernard being there. And

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll say two hundred twenty carries, so you get two

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.440
<v Speaker 1>hundred sixty total touches out of Joe Mixon. I think

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:04.680
<v Speaker 1>that's more than enough for him to pay off top

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.440
<v Speaker 1>fifteen running back value, high end RB two, maybe low

0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:11.040
<v Speaker 1>end RB one, Eric McKinnon, Greg. I mean, the bad

0:51:11.120 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>news just keeps on coming from the injury that we

0:51:13.000 --> 0:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>had before. It seems like every single day at practice,

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 1>the forty Niners are running a different RB out there.

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:22.520
<v Speaker 1>As for first team reps today, it was Jeremy McNichols.

0:51:22.719 --> 0:51:25.640
<v Speaker 1>The team just signed Alfred Morris. We saw Joe Williams

0:51:25.719 --> 0:51:28.839
<v Speaker 1>have a touchdown in the first preseason game, so he's

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a thing. Again. We have like five different running backs

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:35.400
<v Speaker 1>on this forty Niners team. And yes, while Kyle Shanahan produces,

0:51:36.400 --> 0:51:38.960
<v Speaker 1>you know that those top scoring running backs, I think

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:40.960
<v Speaker 1>this year could just be all over the map. I think,

0:51:41.200 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, Jerick McKinnon could be banged up a couple

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.120
<v Speaker 1>of weeks here, then we see Joe Williams, or we

0:51:46.160 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>see him at Brida Matt Brida's banged up to I

0:51:48.600 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>just think that we're gonna get It's gonna be all

0:51:51.040 --> 0:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>over the map this year. I've lowered Jack McKinnon all

0:51:53.239 --> 0:51:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the way down to my RB twenty. He's not He's

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>not even in the tier inside the round three running

0:51:59.600 --> 0:52:03.279
<v Speaker 1>backs with Alex Collins, Lashawn McCoy, You're just County Shanahan, dude.

0:52:03.360 --> 0:52:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I know. The thing is. The thing is, I'm not

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that there can be RB value here, but

0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:10.880
<v Speaker 1>on a weekend, week out basis, I don't know that

0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you know who it's gonna be. I think it's gonna be.

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:15.439
<v Speaker 1>And I'll tell you why they paid him. They paid

0:52:15.480 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 1>him money. But look, he's banged up. He's already banged up,

0:52:18.200 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Greg and it's the preseason. He's not even playing games.

0:52:21.239 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 1>They're barely even making contact with each other yet, and

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 1>the guy has already hurt. I just think once we

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.400
<v Speaker 1>get into the season. And this is what Michael Florio

0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>myself continued to say when we first brought up Jack

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:34.000
<v Speaker 1>McKinnon being drafted in the second round, is there are

0:52:34.120 --> 0:52:37.640
<v Speaker 1>durability concerns. Not only that, there has been efficiency concerns.

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:40.000
<v Speaker 1>He hasn't been a great running back at the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>level yet. And I know he hasn't played for Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Shanahan yet. But Latavia's Murray looked pretty damn good playing

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<v Speaker 1>with Pat Sherman and the Vikings offense last year. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't bring Jack McKinnon back for a reason. They kept

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<v Speaker 1>Latavia's Murray's, if Latavia's Murray, it's better than Jerick McKinnon.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that say? It doesn't say anything. It says

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<v Speaker 1>that got paid. That Jerry McKinney got paid a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money. There's just a really good chance that the

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<v Speaker 1>forty Niners made a mistake and maybe they'll realize that

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<v Speaker 1>sooner than later. And that's what I'm expecting, because I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's gonna be a running back carousel this year,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe this is probably gonna be better for DFS.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever starting at the running back position for the forty

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<v Speaker 1>Niners weekend and week out, maybe you want to plug

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<v Speaker 1>that guy in. But I'm not using a second, not

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<v Speaker 1>even a third round pick on Jack McKinnon if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that he's going to be the starting running

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<v Speaker 1>back every week based on injury history or the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that I just think that he's not really that great

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<v Speaker 1>of a running back. Two more names I want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention that go around here before we get to tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>show Lashaw McCoy and mark Ingram. Ingram suspended for four games.

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<v Speaker 1>Sean McCoy has a suspension probably hanging over him. Potentially,

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<v Speaker 1>I was probably potentially Where do you draft these guys. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about it more tomorrow, but I still think

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<v Speaker 1>Lashawn McCoy just based on volume. Um, you know I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna bring this, I'll say, you know, I'll bring

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<v Speaker 1>up the stat now. Frank Gore finished as RB nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>last year because he had two D and sixty one carries, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Lashawn McCoy, if he says healthy, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot for two D fifty carries. It's based on the

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<v Speaker 1>value he'll a volume will still pay off that third

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<v Speaker 1>round running back value. It's not the talent that scares

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<v Speaker 1>me in any way. With the Shawn McCoy, it's being

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<v Speaker 1>placed in the Commissioner's example list and then you lose

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<v Speaker 1>him for Frank Staffle. I'm Greg Susman. More running back

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<v Speaker 1>talk tomorrow, we hope